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'We asked you to tell us who's left you feeling ripped-off.'

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I think this is very wrong for what they have done.

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The bank passed charges upon charges upon charges.

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Legally, it was right. Morally? That's where the doubt comes, in my view.

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'You contacted us in your thousands,

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'by post, e-mail, even stopping us in the street.

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'The message could not be clearer.'

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-They just try and fob you off.

-I'm not happy with them at all.

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It's that small print that's got the clause in that you didn't realise.

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We're being ripped off.

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'Whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake or a catch in the small print,

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'we'll find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do.'

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Keep asking the questions. Go to the top.

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We do get results.

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'Your stories, your money. This is Rip-Off Britain.'

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Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain,

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where amongst the topics we'll be tackling today is something that thousands of you

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have told us is right up there with your biggest bugbears.

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-It's known as small print.

-Oh, yes.

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When you feel ripped off, all too often it's actually the devil in the detail that's caught you out.

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In fact, the Office of Fair Trading has said that the overwhelming majority of their workload

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-is dealing with people's confusion over...

-Small print!

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Well, in fact, we're probably all guilty sometimes of not reading through those terms and conditions,

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so today we'll hear about what can happen if you don't know exactly what you're getting into

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when you sign on the dotted line.

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Coming up, why, when this woman lost £16,000 to fraudsters,

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her bank just didn't believe her.

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It's a nightmare that you can't wake up from. What else can you do?

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How can you prove you're innocent?

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The pricing antics of one of Britain's best-loved comics.

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£2.50! Crumbs!

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And for one weekend only,

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we opened a consumer advice clinic to solve problems

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and give help to as many of you as we possibly could.

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Whenever we use a credit or a debit card,

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we're always asked to keep the PIN number somewhere safe,

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where no-one can get hold of it and use it without you knowing.

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We're told you have to have a number that no-one else knows, and not to keep it anywhere near the card.

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It's all common sense, really, because by doing that

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you significantly reduce the chance of a card being used fraudulently.

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In 2010, there were over 100,000 cases of card fraud identified in the UK,

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with the losses on those cards coming to a whopping £365 million.

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'When the chip and PIN system was introduced in 2003,

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'it was the biggest change in the way we pay since decimalisation.

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'Ever since, it's been heralded by the banking industry as infallible.

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'But Professor Anderson disagrees.'

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We've found a significant number of vulnerabilities in chip and PIN,

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which have led to a lot of fraud.

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What's more, in many cases, this fraud is blamed on the card holders.

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'Chip and PIN cuts down on fraud in two ways.

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'Firstly, there's a microchip on your debit or credit card

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'which stores personal data securely so it's difficult to counterfeit.

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'The second is the PIN - much harder to copy than a signature.

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'Since the scheme started,

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'card fraud has dropped by 69%.

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'Dr Stephen Murdoch, who works with Professor Anderson, also believes

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'that it's not as secure as the banks would have us believe.'

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The biggest source of card fraud in the UK is from "card not present" transactions.

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That's things like telephone, mainly online transactions.

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In most cases, customers do get their money back from this.

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The biggest threat to customers, when they don't get their money back,

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is fraudulent ATM withdrawals.

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Your card might have been taken out of your wallet and used.

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We asked ourselves,

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how is it possible for a stolen chip and PIN card to be used

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by someone who doesn't know the PIN?

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We found that if you put a suitable piece of wicked electronics

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between the card and the terminal, you can tell the card

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that a signature is authorising a transaction,

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and tell the terminal

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that the card accepted the PIN that was put in at the terminal.

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And everything works.

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'In other words, these Cambridge boffins have found a high-tech way

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'to crack chip and PIN.

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'Dr Murdoch's about to prove it.

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'He's doing an experiment as if the card he's using has been lost or stolen.

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'But with the help of this special gadget, he's hoping

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'to trick the sort of terminal used in most shops and restaurants

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'into thinking that the correct PIN is being used.'

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First, we'll put the card into this device.

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This can be made smaller and quite easily hidden up someone's sleeve.

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Then we put the card into the terminal, just as normal.

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Type in the PIN.

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I typed in 1111, which is not the right PIN for the card. Press enter.

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-The transaction goes through.

-The transaction HAS gone through.

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'Worryingly, it worked.'

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We told the industry about this vulnerability in October 2009.

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'In the middle of 2010, one of the banks did some work to fix it

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'with one of their suppliers, but by December,

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'the fix had been taken out and the fraud worked.'

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We suspect that they found that the fix was causing too many false alarms

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so it would be better to take the risk, rather than upsetting a lot of customers.

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That's fair enough, provided they're prepared to give their customers

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the benefit of the doubt when they complain about fraud.

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'The UK Cards Association is...

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'They say, though technically possible...

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'And once you've reported your card stolen,

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'it would be blocked and the device could no longer work.

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'They insist that any innocent victim of card fraud

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'won't suffer any financial loss.

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'But as you'll see later, it isn't always that simple.'

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Now for something generations of us have grown up loving and trusting -

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the good old Beano!

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The nation's favourite comic has been making children laugh for over 70 years.

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But it's the antics off the page which prompted this letter from Christine Knox,

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who regularly buys a copy for her grandson.

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She wanted us to come up with an answer to this question -

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"Why does The Beano feel the need to rip off young children and grandparents?"

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The Beano? Ripping people off? Now, that would not be funny.

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So we couldn't resist taking up the challenge on Christine's behalf.

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Though, as you'll see, we needed a dictionary to do it.

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For children, The Beano is as much a part of growing up

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as riding a bike and washing behind your ears.

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Since the first issue was sold in 1938,

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the capers of characters like Dennis the Menace,

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and the Bash Street Kids have made the comic a national institution.

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12-year-old James Knox is a big fan.

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Dennis and Gnasher... and probably Billy Whizz.

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They're the main two characters that I quite enjoy.

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They cause mischief in Beanotown,

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like slingshotting people with tomatoes.

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The whole of Beanotown's really, really scared of them.

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You're all right while you're not catching cabbages and stuff, James.

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James's grandma Christine also has a really soft spot for The Beano.

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It encourages them to read, because the stories are all short

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and you can read through them pretty quickly.

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Of course, it gives them hints and tips on how to be rascals as well!

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Christine wrote to Rip-Off Britain, as she thinks that The Beano,

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just like Dennis and Gnasher, is up to mischief.

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Picture the scene. Christine goes to her local shop to buy The Beano,

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as she does every week.

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I hope they've got this week's Beano.

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AH! There it is!

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She goes to pay the usual price.

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There you go, £1.50.

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Only to find it's a pound more expensive than last week.

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No, it's £2.50.

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£2.50! Crumbs!

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I'm not paying that!

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Christine noticed that every time there's a "gift" with The Beano,

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the price goes up from £1.50 to £2.50,

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and she's pretty miffed about it all.

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I just think it's a rip-off.

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I don't think if something is advertised as a gift

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you should pay for that privilege.

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So, to me, a gift is a gift,

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and shouldn't have a cost to it.

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And clearly, The Beano do charge an extra pound.

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The Beano don't actually advertise these gifts as free,

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instead using words like "amazing" or simply, "gifts".

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But Christine, along with Roger, thinks that's dodging the issue.

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If you're going to give a gift, give a gift.

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Don't try charging your poor customers extra for that privilege.

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The Oxford English Dictionary agrees.

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It describes a gift as "a thing given willingly to someone

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"without payment".

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So, if a gift is something you don't charge for,

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how can The Beano put the price up every time one is included?

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Christine wrote to the comic twice to ask,

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and when they didn't respond, she wrote to us.

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We asked The Beano the same question.

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They said the cost of producing comics over the last year has...

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while at the same time...

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To help them attract new readers and...

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They adopted a...

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..which depends on the overall package presented.

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They're stress they're...

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..pointing out that there's a cost to them and the readers

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as these issues cost more to produce.

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And they say research and sales have shown most readers like the gifts.

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James, five more minutes, then I want you in.

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-Yeah.

-OK.

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But Christine thinks The Beano should forget about gifts

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and concentrate on what it's been doing so well for over 70 years -

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making a magazine which children love.

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I will buy it at its normal retail price,

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purely and simply because,

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it is, at that price, fairly good value for money.

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And it does keep him occupied in the back of the car, in his bedroom...

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I will not buy it at the inflated price with "amazing gifts" at £2.50.

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So, at least James will get his favourite comic some of the time,

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which is lucky for him but maybe not so much for the rest of the family.

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Remember, five minutes.

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Beano is a very good way

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of thinking of stuff to menace about.

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If gives you ideas of what you can do to your parents when they're asleep,

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like draw moustaches on them with marker.

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-Have you ever done that?

-No, but I'm going to try it.

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At a time when money is tighter than ever,

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you need to know your cash is working hard for you,

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avoiding rip-offs along the way.

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So, we've put together a booklet of advice

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to help safeguard your hard-earned money.

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You can find the link to the free guide on our website.

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If you want a copy in the post, send an A5 self-addressed envelope

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to the address we'll give you at the end of the programme.

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Earlier, we showed how easy it can be to crack the chip and PIN system

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that we all rely on to keep our credit and debit details secure.

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With banks reluctant to accept that the system might have flaws,

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where does that leave you if you think that somebody has been using your card to withdraw your cash?

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'Four little numbers to keep your card details safe.

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No PIN, no purchase.

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'The system has significantly reduced credit card and bank fraud.

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'Banks repeatedly insist it's fool-proof.

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'One person who definitely wouldn't agree is Eve Russell.

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'She's had a lengthy dispute with Barclaycard which started in August 2010,

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'when she queried a new credit card number on literature they sent to her.'

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I phoned Barclaycard up and I was told it was my new card.

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I said, "What new card? I don't know anything about a new card."

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They said the card that I ordered.

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I'd phoned up and ordered a new card. I said, "No, I didn't."

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The story Barclaycard was told was that I,

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or someone pretending to be me, was in a bar in London,

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had too much to drink and lost their card so they needed a new one.

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This is according to Barclaycard, obviously.

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And I said it wasn't me.

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'Eve was adamant it wasn't her who'd ordered it, but in any case,

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'a new card was out there somewhere in her name.

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'Although it had a different number,

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'Barclaycard said the PIN was identical. Eve was baffled.'

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I thought it was a mistake. Maybe the wrong card number, the wrong Evelyn Russell.

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I couldn't believe what they were telling me. I have my card!

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I did not order a new card. I did not receive a card.

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I did not spend anything on a card, other than the card that I have in my possession.

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'Whoever rang gave one wrong answer to Barclaycard's security questions,

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'Eve's age on her next birthday.

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'For some reason, that wasn't picked up,

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'allowing them to order a new card.

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'Eve thinks the bank should have also picked up on another big clue that something was amiss.'

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In one month, whoever got my card spent £15,000.

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My normal spending pattern is roughly £50, £60 a month

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on my mobile phone bill, that's all.

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Not £15,000!

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And I only have a £10,000 limit.

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Barclaycard state they will monitor irregular spending.

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This is worse than irregular spending.

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This is somebody going for a jolly for £15,000 on a £10,000 limit!

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Totally different from however I've used my card.

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I've been a Barclaycard customer for over 20 years.

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Barclaycard should have flagged this.

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'As Eve continued to protest,

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'Barclaycard produced a somewhat grainy photograph

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'of the door the courier had delivered the new card to.

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'But it wasn't Eve's front door.

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'Although Barclaycard said the card went to a neighbouring address,

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'her nearest neighbour said they didn't receive it.

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'But that wasn't the worst of it.

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'Despite watertight alibis to prove she wasn't present when the card was used,

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'Barclaycard said she must have been because the correct PIN was used.

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'So they insisted that Eve pay back all the money that had been spent,

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'well over £15,000.'

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It's a nightmare that you can't wake up from.

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What else can you do?

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How can you prove you're innocent when you're told,

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even if your card had got delivered to Scotland, and the PIN was used, you would still be liable?

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'Eve's case is surprising

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'because in cases where banks refuse to refund disputed payments,

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'they are supposed to provide evidence that the customer's to blame

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'either through fraud or negligence, for example, letting someone know your PIN.'

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The law has given people additional rights to say that,

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even where a PIN was used, that is not proof that the customer

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authorised the payment.

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The bank have got to come up with very good reasons and some evidence,

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to prove that you were either negligent or fraudulent

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in the way in which you'd used your card.

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They can't simply say, "We're not going to repay you."

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If you feel that your bank has acted unfairly,

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you ought to go to the Financial Ombudsman Service and let them sort it out.

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'Eve did just that and, in October 2011,

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'more than a year after the trouble began, the Ombudsman recommended

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'that Barclaycard wipe off all the disputed debt,

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'remove adverse information from her credit file

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'and provide her with compensation, which they've done,

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'as well as offering to "contribute to her costs".

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'Barclaycard told us they're sorry for their...

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'..They claim that Eve gave them contradictory information about the records she'd kept of her PIN,

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'but now accept that she was...

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'While her battle may be over, Eve is furious

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'about what she had to go through.'

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I feel terrible about the whole situation, emotionally drained.

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It's been an absolute nightmare of a year. Very, very bad.

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It's left me absolutely dreadful.

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We're here at the Trafford Centre in Manchester where,

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for one weekend, we've opened Rip-Off Britain's first pop-up shop.

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We've a great selection of experts here

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to point people in the right direction.

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Mobile and broadband specialist Mike Wilson is expecting a busy desk

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and there's one rip-off he sees quite regularly.

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Typically, it's customers who've been put on to packages

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that probably aren't really suitable for them.

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Often they pay over the odds, both for broadband and for mobiles.

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It's not long before Mike starts meeting his first customers.

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Larry, you're talking to Mike here,

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who's our broadband and telephone expert.

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-What's your problem?

-The problem is,

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I received a letter through the post

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offering me a service with television, broadband and telephone

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at a much cheaper rate than I was getting from another company.

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-How much was that going to cost?

-£30 a month, according to the blurb I got through the post.

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How much did it end up costing you?

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I began to notice that the bills were saying £57 a month

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before I started paying for anything else.

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What was going on here, Mike?

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What it looks like, is that when Larry signed up for the products,

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they put him on a really expensive package,

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one of the top packages you can get,

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probably more suited to a family of five than Larry and his son.

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-Larry, you're 82 now?

-I wish!

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-Add another four and count.

-You're 86?

-I am, plus.

-Right.

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So clearly he didn't need the package

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that was suitable for a family of five.

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I think we'd all hope that the provider would recognise

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if you're on the wrong tariff and get in touch with you.

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But have a look at the bill at the end of the month and say,

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realistically, what am I using?

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A lot of people sign up for TV packages, all singing,

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all dancing, all 900 channels when they don't need half of them.

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Check if you're getting charged over your standard package

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and make sure you ask them for an itemised bill

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and where these costs are coming from.

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-Mike, is there anything else we can do for Larry?

-Absolutely.

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I'll look at the itemised bills for the telephone package

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and make sure you're on the best deal for you.

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-A result.

-Very much, yes.

-Nice to meet you, Larry.

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-It's been very nice.

-Arrivederci!

-Arrivederci.

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If you feel you've been short-changed

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by a company you've put your faith in, then do let us know.

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We'll have all the contact details later in the programme.

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Next, a viewer who got in touch after an experience

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that left them feeling bitterly let down.

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Geoff and Jackie Churches' plans for their retirement were abruptly halted

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when Jackie went for a routine medical visit.

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I went to my GP's surgery for a normal diabetic check-up.

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During the course of my check-up I asked the nurse whether she could have a look at my right breast,

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as it was very uncomfortable. She called in my GP, he had a look,

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and he found an extremely large lump.

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The lump was diagnosed as cancer and further tests revealed that it was already at an advanced stage.

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I'm quite a private person. I burst into tears,

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and was carted off somewhere to have a good cry,

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and, "That's it, girl! Get it out your system!"

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And we actually went out for a meal that lunchtime,

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because my daughter said, "I don't want to remember this day as the day I was told my mother had cancer."

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The cancer was so advanced that the family was told to prepare for the fact that Jackie was dying.

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Any treatment she would receive would only be palliative.

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Being told you're terminally ill

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is...I think...the most frightening thing anyone has ever said to me.

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Your mind goes blank to start off with,

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and you think, "One in three people have been told they've got cancer, you're now becoming a statistic...

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"What the hell am I going to do about it?" You know, there's things we've got to do.

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"How can I live without her?

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"How am I going to finance myself, etc...?"

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But most of all, "I'm going to live without her, I'm going to be on my own."

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When the doctor told me I was terminally ill, it literally was, "I'm going to die..."

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You know, do I arrange a funeral, do I...?

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There's just so much that went through your mind,

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but each time interspersing all of that is, "I'm going to die."

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And that's about all I can say is, yeah, you do feel very self-centred,

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you want to be private, you want to sneak off somewhere...

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Can we stop now?

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After the terrible news had sunk in,

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the family turned their attention to planning how to make the most of the time they had left together.

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And you put L above it.

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My youngest son, Stephen, who's very practical, asked whether we had any insurance cover.

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And we dug out the old policy, had a look at it,

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and, yes, we were covered for terminal illness.

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In that sense, we were quite relieved that we could sort some of their debts out and bills,

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and there'd be money left over for them to do those little small things they always wanted to do.

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But their hopes of a little financial help to ease the situation were soon dashed.

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The insurance policy had very specific terms and conditions

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relating to terminal illness.

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For Scottish Widows to deem that I am actually terminally ill,

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they have to write to your oncologist and get proof of your illness.

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This is the letter that my oncologist wrote back to Scottish Widows.

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I'll read you the relevant paragraph.

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"The critical point from your letter of 25th November 2010

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"was whether I could confirm life expectancy of no greater than 12 months.

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"Although some patients can survive long-term,

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"there is a greater than 50% risk of death in the 12 months from the time of diagnosis of metastatic disease."

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To me, that paragraph is straightforward.

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To Scottish Widows, it wasn't enough.

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The sticking point was that Jackie's consultant would not say 100% that she would die within one year,

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and as their insurance policy defined terminal illness as "death within a 12-month period",

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Scottish Widows refused to pay out.

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Jackie and Geoff were left devastated.

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I mean, she is terminal, I'm going to lose her eventually,

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but they seem to be giving us both a hard time for existing.

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I've lost count of the number of times that I've apologised directly speaking to Scottish Widows advisors

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for living. It's the biggest mistake of my life is to actually have ended up living,

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as opposed to dying to their timetable.

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Jackie has already lived longer than the 12-month definition of terminal,

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but because that figure is pretty much industry standard, used by all the big insurance companies,

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when she appealed to the Financial Ombudsman service, she lost.

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Scottish Widows told us that while Jackie is suffering a serious illness,

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a specialist medical assessment said that her life expectancy can be...

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They say they go beyond the industry's best-practice guidelines when assessing claims,

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and use an independent panel to take a second look at any that aren't clear cut.

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And they've advised Jackie that "only in the unfortunate event"

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that her condition deteriorates to the point where her life expectancy is...

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..will they be in a position to pay out.

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But whatever the rules, Jackie feels that terminal illness should not have a timetable,

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and she's been left feeling very bitter.

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I will fight them to the end, to the end, for my money that I've paid in.

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Are you baffled by your bills?

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I thought, "This can't be true. It's totally unacceptable."

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I was so angry.

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Tying to wade through never-ending small print

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that leaves you totally confused?

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I might have been stupid for not reading it,

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or I've read it and not took it in.

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I could kick myself, I really could.

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You can write to us...

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..or send us an e-mail.

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The Rip-Off team is always looking for the stories that matter to you.

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It seems that when faced with unacceptable goods or service,

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we Brits simply grin and bear it.

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-Perhaps it's down to our stiff upper lip!

-You're right!

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Here at Rip-Off Britain, we believe, in these tough economic times,

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-you really should stand up for your rights.

-That's always our message.

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Bear in mind that it's far more expensive

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for companies to find new customers

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than it is to satisfy a disgruntled one.

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So, there's usually everything to play for.

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And remember, if you genuinely feel you've been ripped off or let down,

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you need to complain. Again, that's one of our messages.

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As consumers, we have very clear rights.

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That's where we have to leave it for today,

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but obviously, we hope you'll join us next time,

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for some more of the rip-offs that are driving you crazy.

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-Until then, bye-bye.

-Bye-bye.

-Bye.

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