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'We asked you to tell us who's left you feeling ripped-off.' | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
I think this is very wrong for what they have done. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
The bank passed charges upon charges upon charges. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Legally, it was right. Morally? That's where the doubt comes, in my view. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:18 | |
'You contacted us in your thousands, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
'by post, e-mail, even stopping us in the street. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:26 | |
'The message could not be clearer.' | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
-They just try and fob you off. -I'm not happy with them at all. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
It's that small print that's got the clause in that you didn't realise. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
We're being ripped off. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
'Whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake or a catch in the small print, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:43 | |
'we'll find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do.' | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
Keep asking the questions. Go to the top. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
We do get results. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
'Your stories, your money. This is Rip-Off Britain.' | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
where amongst the topics we'll be tackling today is something that thousands of you | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
have told us is right up there with your biggest bugbears. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:10 | |
-It's known as small print. -Oh, yes. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
When you feel ripped off, all too often it's actually the devil in the detail that's caught you out. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:18 | |
In fact, the Office of Fair Trading has said that the overwhelming majority of their workload | 0:01:18 | 0:01:23 | |
-is dealing with people's confusion over... -Small print! | 0:01:23 | 0:01:27 | |
Well, in fact, we're probably all guilty sometimes of not reading through those terms and conditions, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
so today we'll hear about what can happen if you don't know exactly what you're getting into | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
when you sign on the dotted line. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
Coming up, why, when this woman lost £16,000 to fraudsters, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
her bank just didn't believe her. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
It's a nightmare that you can't wake up from. What else can you do? | 0:01:44 | 0:01:48 | |
How can you prove you're innocent? | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
The pricing antics of one of Britain's best-loved comics. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
£2.50! Crumbs! | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
And for one weekend only, | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
we opened a consumer advice clinic to solve problems | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
and give help to as many of you as we possibly could. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
Whenever we use a credit or a debit card, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
we're always asked to keep the PIN number somewhere safe, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
where no-one can get hold of it and use it without you knowing. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
We're told you have to have a number that no-one else knows, and not to keep it anywhere near the card. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:27 | |
It's all common sense, really, because by doing that | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
you significantly reduce the chance of a card being used fraudulently. | 0:02:31 | 0:02:36 | |
In 2010, there were over 100,000 cases of card fraud identified in the UK, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:41 | |
with the losses on those cards coming to a whopping £365 million. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:47 | |
'When the chip and PIN system was introduced in 2003, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
'it was the biggest change in the way we pay since decimalisation. | 0:02:50 | 0:02:56 | |
'Ever since, it's been heralded by the banking industry as infallible. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
'But Professor Anderson disagrees.' | 0:03:01 | 0:03:06 | |
We've found a significant number of vulnerabilities in chip and PIN, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
which have led to a lot of fraud. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
What's more, in many cases, this fraud is blamed on the card holders. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:19 | |
'Chip and PIN cuts down on fraud in two ways. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
'Firstly, there's a microchip on your debit or credit card | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
'which stores personal data securely so it's difficult to counterfeit. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
'The second is the PIN - much harder to copy than a signature. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
'Since the scheme started, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
'card fraud has dropped by 69%. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
'Dr Stephen Murdoch, who works with Professor Anderson, also believes | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
'that it's not as secure as the banks would have us believe.' | 0:03:46 | 0:03:51 | |
The biggest source of card fraud in the UK is from "card not present" transactions. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:56 | |
That's things like telephone, mainly online transactions. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
In most cases, customers do get their money back from this. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:05 | |
The biggest threat to customers, when they don't get their money back, | 0:04:05 | 0:04:10 | |
is fraudulent ATM withdrawals. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
Your card might have been taken out of your wallet and used. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
We asked ourselves, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
how is it possible for a stolen chip and PIN card to be used | 0:04:19 | 0:04:23 | |
by someone who doesn't know the PIN? | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
We found that if you put a suitable piece of wicked electronics | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
between the card and the terminal, you can tell the card | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
that a signature is authorising a transaction, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
and tell the terminal | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
that the card accepted the PIN that was put in at the terminal. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
And everything works. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
'In other words, these Cambridge boffins have found a high-tech way | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
'to crack chip and PIN. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
'Dr Murdoch's about to prove it. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
'He's doing an experiment as if the card he's using has been lost or stolen. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
'But with the help of this special gadget, he's hoping | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
'to trick the sort of terminal used in most shops and restaurants | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
'into thinking that the correct PIN is being used.' | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
First, we'll put the card into this device. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
This can be made smaller and quite easily hidden up someone's sleeve. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:19 | |
Then we put the card into the terminal, just as normal. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:25 | |
Type in the PIN. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:28 | |
I typed in 1111, which is not the right PIN for the card. Press enter. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
-The transaction goes through. -The transaction HAS gone through. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
'Worryingly, it worked.' | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
We told the industry about this vulnerability in October 2009. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
'In the middle of 2010, one of the banks did some work to fix it | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
'with one of their suppliers, but by December, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
'the fix had been taken out and the fraud worked.' | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
We suspect that they found that the fix was causing too many false alarms | 0:06:04 | 0:06:10 | |
so it would be better to take the risk, rather than upsetting a lot of customers. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:15 | |
That's fair enough, provided they're prepared to give their customers | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
the benefit of the doubt when they complain about fraud. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
'The UK Cards Association is... | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
'They say, though technically possible... | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
'And once you've reported your card stolen, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
'it would be blocked and the device could no longer work. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:42 | |
'They insist that any innocent victim of card fraud | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
'won't suffer any financial loss. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
'But as you'll see later, it isn't always that simple.' | 0:06:51 | 0:06:57 | |
Now for something generations of us have grown up loving and trusting - | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
the good old Beano! | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
The nation's favourite comic has been making children laugh for over 70 years. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
But it's the antics off the page which prompted this letter from Christine Knox, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
who regularly buys a copy for her grandson. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:15 | |
She wanted us to come up with an answer to this question - | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
"Why does The Beano feel the need to rip off young children and grandparents?" | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
The Beano? Ripping people off? Now, that would not be funny. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
So we couldn't resist taking up the challenge on Christine's behalf. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:31 | |
Though, as you'll see, we needed a dictionary to do it. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
For children, The Beano is as much a part of growing up | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
as riding a bike and washing behind your ears. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
Since the first issue was sold in 1938, | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
the capers of characters like Dennis the Menace, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
and the Bash Street Kids have made the comic a national institution. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:54 | |
12-year-old James Knox is a big fan. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
Dennis and Gnasher... and probably Billy Whizz. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
They're the main two characters that I quite enjoy. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
They cause mischief in Beanotown, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
like slingshotting people with tomatoes. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
The whole of Beanotown's really, really scared of them. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
You're all right while you're not catching cabbages and stuff, James. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
James's grandma Christine also has a really soft spot for The Beano. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:25 | |
It encourages them to read, because the stories are all short | 0:08:25 | 0:08:31 | |
and you can read through them pretty quickly. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
Of course, it gives them hints and tips on how to be rascals as well! | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
Christine wrote to Rip-Off Britain, as she thinks that The Beano, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:44 | |
just like Dennis and Gnasher, is up to mischief. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
Picture the scene. Christine goes to her local shop to buy The Beano, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
as she does every week. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
I hope they've got this week's Beano. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
AH! There it is! | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
She goes to pay the usual price. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
There you go, £1.50. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
Only to find it's a pound more expensive than last week. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
No, it's £2.50. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
£2.50! Crumbs! | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
I'm not paying that! | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
Christine noticed that every time there's a "gift" with The Beano, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
the price goes up from £1.50 to £2.50, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:21 | |
and she's pretty miffed about it all. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
I just think it's a rip-off. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
I don't think if something is advertised as a gift | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
you should pay for that privilege. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
So, to me, a gift is a gift, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
and shouldn't have a cost to it. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
And clearly, The Beano do charge an extra pound. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
The Beano don't actually advertise these gifts as free, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
instead using words like "amazing" or simply, "gifts". | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
But Christine, along with Roger, thinks that's dodging the issue. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
If you're going to give a gift, give a gift. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
Don't try charging your poor customers extra for that privilege. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:03 | |
The Oxford English Dictionary agrees. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
It describes a gift as "a thing given willingly to someone | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
"without payment". | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
So, if a gift is something you don't charge for, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
how can The Beano put the price up every time one is included? | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
Christine wrote to the comic twice to ask, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:21 | |
and when they didn't respond, she wrote to us. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
We asked The Beano the same question. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:27 | |
They said the cost of producing comics over the last year has... | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
while at the same time... | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
To help them attract new readers and... | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
They adopted a... | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
..which depends on the overall package presented. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
They're stress they're... | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
..pointing out that there's a cost to them and the readers | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
as these issues cost more to produce. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:54 | |
And they say research and sales have shown most readers like the gifts. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
James, five more minutes, then I want you in. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
-Yeah. -OK. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
But Christine thinks The Beano should forget about gifts | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
and concentrate on what it's been doing so well for over 70 years - | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
making a magazine which children love. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
I will buy it at its normal retail price, | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
purely and simply because, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
it is, at that price, fairly good value for money. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
And it does keep him occupied in the back of the car, in his bedroom... | 0:11:24 | 0:11:29 | |
I will not buy it at the inflated price with "amazing gifts" at £2.50. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:35 | |
So, at least James will get his favourite comic some of the time, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
which is lucky for him but maybe not so much for the rest of the family. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:43 | |
Remember, five minutes. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
Beano is a very good way | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
of thinking of stuff to menace about. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:52 | |
If gives you ideas of what you can do to your parents when they're asleep, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:57 | |
like draw moustaches on them with marker. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
-Have you ever done that? -No, but I'm going to try it. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:06 | |
At a time when money is tighter than ever, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
you need to know your cash is working hard for you, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
avoiding rip-offs along the way. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
So, we've put together a booklet of advice | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
to help safeguard your hard-earned money. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
You can find the link to the free guide on our website. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
If you want a copy in the post, send an A5 self-addressed envelope | 0:12:31 | 0:12:35 | |
to the address we'll give you at the end of the programme. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
Earlier, we showed how easy it can be to crack the chip and PIN system | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
that we all rely on to keep our credit and debit details secure. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
With banks reluctant to accept that the system might have flaws, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
where does that leave you if you think that somebody has been using your card to withdraw your cash? | 0:12:55 | 0:13:02 | |
'Four little numbers to keep your card details safe. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
No PIN, no purchase. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:06 | |
'The system has significantly reduced credit card and bank fraud. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
'Banks repeatedly insist it's fool-proof. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
'One person who definitely wouldn't agree is Eve Russell. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
'She's had a lengthy dispute with Barclaycard which started in August 2010, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
'when she queried a new credit card number on literature they sent to her.' | 0:13:22 | 0:13:28 | |
I phoned Barclaycard up and I was told it was my new card. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
I said, "What new card? I don't know anything about a new card." | 0:13:32 | 0:13:37 | |
They said the card that I ordered. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
I'd phoned up and ordered a new card. I said, "No, I didn't." | 0:13:39 | 0:13:44 | |
The story Barclaycard was told was that I, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
or someone pretending to be me, was in a bar in London, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
had too much to drink and lost their card so they needed a new one. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
This is according to Barclaycard, obviously. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
And I said it wasn't me. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
'Eve was adamant it wasn't her who'd ordered it, but in any case, | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
'a new card was out there somewhere in her name. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
'Although it had a different number, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
'Barclaycard said the PIN was identical. Eve was baffled.' | 0:14:11 | 0:14:17 | |
I thought it was a mistake. Maybe the wrong card number, the wrong Evelyn Russell. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:22 | |
I couldn't believe what they were telling me. I have my card! | 0:14:22 | 0:14:27 | |
I did not order a new card. I did not receive a card. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
I did not spend anything on a card, other than the card that I have in my possession. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
'Whoever rang gave one wrong answer to Barclaycard's security questions, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:42 | |
'Eve's age on her next birthday. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
'For some reason, that wasn't picked up, | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
'allowing them to order a new card. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
'Eve thinks the bank should have also picked up on another big clue that something was amiss.' | 0:14:50 | 0:14:56 | |
In one month, whoever got my card spent £15,000. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:02 | |
My normal spending pattern is roughly £50, £60 a month | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
on my mobile phone bill, that's all. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
Not £15,000! | 0:15:08 | 0:15:10 | |
And I only have a £10,000 limit. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
Barclaycard state they will monitor irregular spending. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
This is worse than irregular spending. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
This is somebody going for a jolly for £15,000 on a £10,000 limit! | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
Totally different from however I've used my card. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
I've been a Barclaycard customer for over 20 years. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
Barclaycard should have flagged this. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
'As Eve continued to protest, | 0:15:34 | 0:15:36 | |
'Barclaycard produced a somewhat grainy photograph | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
'of the door the courier had delivered the new card to. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
'But it wasn't Eve's front door. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
'Although Barclaycard said the card went to a neighbouring address, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:50 | |
'her nearest neighbour said they didn't receive it. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
'But that wasn't the worst of it. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
'Despite watertight alibis to prove she wasn't present when the card was used, | 0:15:55 | 0:16:00 | |
'Barclaycard said she must have been because the correct PIN was used. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:05 | |
'So they insisted that Eve pay back all the money that had been spent, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:10 | |
'well over £15,000.' | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
It's a nightmare that you can't wake up from. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
What else can you do? | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
How can you prove you're innocent when you're told, | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
even if your card had got delivered to Scotland, and the PIN was used, you would still be liable? | 0:16:21 | 0:16:27 | |
'Eve's case is surprising | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
'because in cases where banks refuse to refund disputed payments, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:33 | |
'they are supposed to provide evidence that the customer's to blame | 0:16:33 | 0:16:39 | |
'either through fraud or negligence, for example, letting someone know your PIN.' | 0:16:39 | 0:16:44 | |
The law has given people additional rights to say that, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
even where a PIN was used, that is not proof that the customer | 0:16:48 | 0:16:53 | |
authorised the payment. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
The bank have got to come up with very good reasons and some evidence, | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
to prove that you were either negligent or fraudulent | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
in the way in which you'd used your card. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
They can't simply say, "We're not going to repay you." | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
If you feel that your bank has acted unfairly, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
you ought to go to the Financial Ombudsman Service and let them sort it out. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
'Eve did just that and, in October 2011, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
'more than a year after the trouble began, the Ombudsman recommended | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
'that Barclaycard wipe off all the disputed debt, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
'remove adverse information from her credit file | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
'and provide her with compensation, which they've done, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
'as well as offering to "contribute to her costs". | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
'Barclaycard told us they're sorry for their... | 0:17:40 | 0:17:45 | |
'..They claim that Eve gave them contradictory information about the records she'd kept of her PIN, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
'but now accept that she was... | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
'While her battle may be over, Eve is furious | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
'about what she had to go through.' | 0:18:10 | 0:18:12 | |
I feel terrible about the whole situation, emotionally drained. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:17 | |
It's been an absolute nightmare of a year. Very, very bad. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:22 | |
It's left me absolutely dreadful. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
We're here at the Trafford Centre in Manchester where, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
for one weekend, we've opened Rip-Off Britain's first pop-up shop. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:40 | |
We've a great selection of experts here | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
to point people in the right direction. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
Mobile and broadband specialist Mike Wilson is expecting a busy desk | 0:18:44 | 0:18:48 | |
and there's one rip-off he sees quite regularly. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
Typically, it's customers who've been put on to packages | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
that probably aren't really suitable for them. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
Often they pay over the odds, both for broadband and for mobiles. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:02 | |
It's not long before Mike starts meeting his first customers. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
Larry, you're talking to Mike here, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
who's our broadband and telephone expert. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
-What's your problem? -The problem is, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:14 | |
I received a letter through the post | 0:19:14 | 0:19:18 | |
offering me a service with television, broadband and telephone | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
at a much cheaper rate than I was getting from another company. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
-How much was that going to cost? -£30 a month, according to the blurb I got through the post. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:31 | |
How much did it end up costing you? | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
I began to notice that the bills were saying £57 a month | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
before I started paying for anything else. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
What was going on here, Mike? | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
What it looks like, is that when Larry signed up for the products, | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
they put him on a really expensive package, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
one of the top packages you can get, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:49 | |
probably more suited to a family of five than Larry and his son. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
-Larry, you're 82 now? -I wish! | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
-Add another four and count. -You're 86? -I am, plus. -Right. | 0:19:55 | 0:20:02 | |
So clearly he didn't need the package | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
that was suitable for a family of five. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
I think we'd all hope that the provider would recognise | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
if you're on the wrong tariff and get in touch with you. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
But have a look at the bill at the end of the month and say, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
realistically, what am I using? | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
A lot of people sign up for TV packages, all singing, | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
all dancing, all 900 channels when they don't need half of them. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
Check if you're getting charged over your standard package | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
and make sure you ask them for an itemised bill | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
and where these costs are coming from. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
-Mike, is there anything else we can do for Larry? -Absolutely. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
I'll look at the itemised bills for the telephone package | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
and make sure you're on the best deal for you. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
-A result. -Very much, yes. -Nice to meet you, Larry. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
-It's been very nice. -Arrivederci! -Arrivederci. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
If you feel you've been short-changed | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
by a company you've put your faith in, then do let us know. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
We'll have all the contact details later in the programme. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
Next, a viewer who got in touch after an experience | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
that left them feeling bitterly let down. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
Geoff and Jackie Churches' plans for their retirement were abruptly halted | 0:21:08 | 0:21:14 | |
when Jackie went for a routine medical visit. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
I went to my GP's surgery for a normal diabetic check-up. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
During the course of my check-up I asked the nurse whether she could have a look at my right breast, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:28 | |
as it was very uncomfortable. She called in my GP, he had a look, | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
and he found an extremely large lump. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
The lump was diagnosed as cancer and further tests revealed that it was already at an advanced stage. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:43 | |
I'm quite a private person. I burst into tears, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
and was carted off somewhere to have a good cry, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
and, "That's it, girl! Get it out your system!" | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
And we actually went out for a meal that lunchtime, | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
because my daughter said, "I don't want to remember this day as the day I was told my mother had cancer." | 0:21:58 | 0:22:05 | |
The cancer was so advanced that the family was told to prepare for the fact that Jackie was dying. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
Any treatment she would receive would only be palliative. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
Being told you're terminally ill | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
is...I think...the most frightening thing anyone has ever said to me. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:25 | |
Your mind goes blank to start off with, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
and you think, "One in three people have been told they've got cancer, you're now becoming a statistic... | 0:22:27 | 0:22:35 | |
"What the hell am I going to do about it?" You know, there's things we've got to do. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:39 | |
"How can I live without her? | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
"How am I going to finance myself, etc...?" | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
But most of all, "I'm going to live without her, I'm going to be on my own." | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
When the doctor told me I was terminally ill, it literally was, "I'm going to die..." | 0:22:48 | 0:22:55 | |
You know, do I arrange a funeral, do I...? | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
There's just so much that went through your mind, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
but each time interspersing all of that is, "I'm going to die." | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
And that's about all I can say is, yeah, you do feel very self-centred, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
you want to be private, you want to sneak off somewhere... | 0:23:10 | 0:23:16 | |
Can we stop now? | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
After the terrible news had sunk in, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
the family turned their attention to planning how to make the most of the time they had left together. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:30 | |
And you put L above it. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
My youngest son, Stephen, who's very practical, asked whether we had any insurance cover. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:40 | |
And we dug out the old policy, had a look at it, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
and, yes, we were covered for terminal illness. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
In that sense, we were quite relieved that we could sort some of their debts out and bills, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:52 | |
and there'd be money left over for them to do those little small things they always wanted to do. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
But their hopes of a little financial help to ease the situation were soon dashed. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
The insurance policy had very specific terms and conditions | 0:24:02 | 0:24:08 | |
relating to terminal illness. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
For Scottish Widows to deem that I am actually terminally ill, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:17 | |
they have to write to your oncologist and get proof of your illness. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:23 | |
This is the letter that my oncologist wrote back to Scottish Widows. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:28 | |
I'll read you the relevant paragraph. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:30 | |
"The critical point from your letter of 25th November 2010 | 0:24:30 | 0:24:35 | |
"was whether I could confirm life expectancy of no greater than 12 months. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:40 | |
"Although some patients can survive long-term, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
"there is a greater than 50% risk of death in the 12 months from the time of diagnosis of metastatic disease." | 0:24:43 | 0:24:51 | |
To me, that paragraph is straightforward. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
To Scottish Widows, it wasn't enough. | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
The sticking point was that Jackie's consultant would not say 100% that she would die within one year, | 0:25:00 | 0:25:08 | |
and as their insurance policy defined terminal illness as "death within a 12-month period", | 0:25:08 | 0:25:15 | |
Scottish Widows refused to pay out. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
Jackie and Geoff were left devastated. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
I mean, she is terminal, I'm going to lose her eventually, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:26 | |
but they seem to be giving us both a hard time for existing. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:32 | |
I've lost count of the number of times that I've apologised directly speaking to Scottish Widows advisors | 0:25:32 | 0:25:39 | |
for living. It's the biggest mistake of my life is to actually have ended up living, | 0:25:39 | 0:25:46 | |
as opposed to dying to their timetable. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Jackie has already lived longer than the 12-month definition of terminal, | 0:25:49 | 0:25:55 | |
but because that figure is pretty much industry standard, used by all the big insurance companies, | 0:25:55 | 0:26:01 | |
when she appealed to the Financial Ombudsman service, she lost. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
Scottish Widows told us that while Jackie is suffering a serious illness, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:12 | |
a specialist medical assessment said that her life expectancy can be... | 0:26:12 | 0:26:17 | |
They say they go beyond the industry's best-practice guidelines when assessing claims, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:24 | |
and use an independent panel to take a second look at any that aren't clear cut. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:29 | |
And they've advised Jackie that "only in the unfortunate event" | 0:26:29 | 0:26:33 | |
that her condition deteriorates to the point where her life expectancy is... | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
..will they be in a position to pay out. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:42 | |
But whatever the rules, Jackie feels that terminal illness should not have a timetable, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:47 | |
and she's been left feeling very bitter. | 0:26:47 | 0:26:51 | |
I will fight them to the end, to the end, for my money that I've paid in. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
Are you baffled by your bills? | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
I thought, "This can't be true. It's totally unacceptable." | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
I was so angry. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
Tying to wade through never-ending small print | 0:27:07 | 0:27:09 | |
that leaves you totally confused? | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
I might have been stupid for not reading it, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
or I've read it and not took it in. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
I could kick myself, I really could. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
You can write to us... | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
..or send us an e-mail. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:31 | |
The Rip-Off team is always looking for the stories that matter to you. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
It seems that when faced with unacceptable goods or service, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
we Brits simply grin and bear it. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
-Perhaps it's down to our stiff upper lip! -You're right! | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
Here at Rip-Off Britain, we believe, in these tough economic times, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
-you really should stand up for your rights. -That's always our message. | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
Bear in mind that it's far more expensive | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
for companies to find new customers | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
than it is to satisfy a disgruntled one. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
So, there's usually everything to play for. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
And remember, if you genuinely feel you've been ripped off or let down, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
you need to complain. Again, that's one of our messages. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
As consumers, we have very clear rights. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
That's where we have to leave it for today, | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
but obviously, we hope you'll join us next time, | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
for some more of the rip-offs that are driving you crazy. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
-Until then, bye-bye. -Bye-bye. -Bye. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd | 0:28:38 | 0:28:43 |