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We asked YOU to tell us who's left you feeling ripped-off. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
I think this is very, very, very wrong for what they have done. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
The bank piles charges upon charges upon charges. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Legally, it was right. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:14 | |
Morally? That's where the question of doubt comes, in my view. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
And you contacted us in your thousands, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
by post, e-mail, even stopping us in the streets! | 0:00:21 | 0:00:26 | |
And the message could not be clearer. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
You don't always get a straight answer. They fob you off. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
I'm not happy at all. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:32 | |
It's always that very small print that's got the clause in | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
that you didn't realise. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:36 | |
We're being ripped off big-time. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
Whether it is a deliberate rip-off, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
a simple mistake, or a catch in the small print, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
we'll find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
Keep asking the questions. Go to the top if you have to. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
We do get results, that's the interesting thing. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
Your stories, your money. This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
Hello, and welcome to Rip-Off Britain, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
the programme that investigates | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
your consumer complaints and battles on your behalf | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
to get the answers that you've been fighting for. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
Throughout the series, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:11 | |
we're shining a light on the companies you've told us about | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
that have left you feeling short-changed - | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
both big and small organisations. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:18 | |
And today, well, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:19 | |
some of the companies that you've contacted us about | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
are very big indeed. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:23 | |
Today we're tackling problems to do with your phone | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
or your internet connection. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
Services provided by some of the country's best-known names. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
But are you always getting what you expect for your money? | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
Coming up... | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
Left behind by the broadband revolution - | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
the village that took matters into their own hands | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
to get themselves online. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:44 | |
And the couple paying a high price for a low-speed service. | 0:01:44 | 0:01:49 | |
It takes so long to download them that it's virtually useless. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
See? Go slow! | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
And why this man now wonders if, after spending £6,000 | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
on high street hearing aids, he could have got something similar for free. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:05 | |
Now, here's one person who watches Rip-Off Britain regularly | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
who is absolutely livid about what they've had to go through, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:13 | |
and it's not difficult to see why. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
The mobile phone - over 30 million are sold in the UK every year. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:23 | |
The question is, how did we cope without them? | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
But what happens if you lose yours? | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
Well, the latest Home Office figures show that, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
in a 12-month period, 850,000 people have had their mobile phone stolen, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
leaving them not only incommunicado but also out of pocket. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
Sam Arnold is a student and he relies heavily on his phone. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
But the 21-year-old doesn't make any calls - | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
he only uses it for text messages, because he's severely deaf. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
I constantly use mobile phones, every day, | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
and I constantly have them with me all the time, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
because it's very important for me to contact people | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
and I can't live without my phone. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
But while studying for his final exams at university, | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
Sam lost his telephone after a night out with pals. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
The next day, I just noticed | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
that I haven't got my phone with me. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
So I contact my mates to say, "Have I left my phone in your house?" | 0:03:12 | 0:03:16 | |
But the house was a bit messy, so they said they'll find it. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:20 | |
When the phone wasn't found, his dad, Paul, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:24 | |
called the mobile provider - | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
in this case, Orange - to cancel the contract. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
I asked in that normal, casual way, "Has the phone been used?" | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
They say, "Yes, the phone has been used." | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
They start to reel off the countries - | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
Somalia, UAE, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
Nigeria, Netherlands... | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
I'm sitting there, thinking, "My gosh. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
"This bill is getting bigger every time they say another name." | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
So I said, "What's the total bill?" | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
They said, "Well, right now, it's up to about £1,450." | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
So, of course, I just felt that real knot in my stomach. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
No wonder, because Sam and his dad | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
were told it was them that had to foot the bill. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
And that's not unusual. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
If your mobile is lost or stolen, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
it's generally YOU who will be liable | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
for the cost of calls made on it up to when you reported the loss. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
Even though, in this case, clearly Sam had not made them. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:17 | |
When Orange told us to pay £1,452, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
I was a bit, like, in shock, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
because I never make phone calls because I'm deaf. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
He never makes a phone call. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
He just used it for text. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:30 | |
So surely when a phone moves | 0:04:30 | 0:04:32 | |
from being text-only to being mainly phone calls, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
surely something should be triggered there? | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
So you went to Brussels, Belarus, Greece... | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
Paul wonders why the phone company didn't spot the unusual calls | 0:04:40 | 0:04:44 | |
straight away and let them know about the situation. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
I was actually quite disgusted, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
because how could a bill that is normally about £30, £35, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
jump to £1,500 and there's no communication back? | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
They're a communications company! | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
Why are they not talking to me? | 0:04:59 | 0:05:02 | |
You'd think they'd do something. Particularly if it goes from | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
just texting to voicing, then wouldn't you do something about that? | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
Orange told us that when unusual usage is flagged up by the system, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
they take appropriate action as and when required. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
But they stress that it's the customer's responsibility | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
to tell them as soon as the phone goes missing, | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
as only then can they stop calls being charged to an account. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
In this case, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
they say it was two days before they were notified of the phone's loss. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
They recommend their customers use the security PIN on their phones | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
to prevent unauthorised loss. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
And they say that situations like this | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
could be avoided by requesting a bar on international calls. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
Even so, the company did eventually agree | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
to cancel the outstanding bill of £1,452.94. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:52 | |
But Sam and Paul still feel that the calls | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
should never have been allowed to get so high. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
It was stressful, | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
money was hard to come by. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
To then suddenly have to find £1,500 out of nowhere | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
to pay this bill was horrible. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
And I just felt that it just didn't seem right that this should happen. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:12 | |
Now, for many of us, whether it's at work or at home, | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
the internet has become an essential part of everyday life. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
In fact, 19 million households are now online. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
But exactly how fast your internet connection will be | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
still, I'm afraid, very much depends | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
on which part of the country you live in. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
Now, in rural areas especially, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
trying to get online can be frustratingly slow. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
Martin and Diane Verlaine are amongst the people angry about that. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
They don't like the fact that they're paying the same | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
as people who enjoy faster speeds. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
And they also reckon that their slow Internet connection | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
is actually damaging their business. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
It's three years since Martin and Diane Verlaine swapped this... | 0:06:53 | 0:06:59 | |
for this. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
We're both workaholics and we were like ships that pass in the night. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
I was an IT project manager | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
and quite often I would do a 48-hour stint. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
I said to Martin that we need to find something else, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
because otherwise we'll cark at our desks | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
and the taxman will get all our money. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
We didn't want that, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
so we started looking around for something else we could do. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
And here is that "something" - a holiday cottage business | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
tucked away in a beautiful corner of Devon. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
But there's a downside to living in such a remote area - | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
the speed of their broadband internet connection, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
which is very slow indeed. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
They've got downloadable lessons now which they haven't had before. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:46 | |
-That's good. -Yeah, it's good, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
but it takes so long to download them | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
and for them to play, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
that it's... It's virtually useless. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
Here we go, look. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:58 | |
See? Go slow. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
The most that we've ever got is one meg. 1.1, I think. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:08 | |
1.2 at an absolute push, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
but that's when I'm using it at 6.30 in the morning | 0:08:10 | 0:08:12 | |
and there's no other interference on the line, nobody else using it. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
Martin and Diane don't just need a faster connection for fun, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:20 | |
they need it for their holiday cottage business, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
so that they can take bookings online. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
We'd like to be able to run the business ourselves, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
but we can't, because we have to rely on the booking agent | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
to get the customers in. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
If I can have my own website and I can take my own bookings, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
I need to be able to take payments via the internet. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
I can't do any of that with this kind of broadband speed. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
The problem is that broadband is still a postcode lottery. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:50 | |
If you live in a big city, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
chances are that you'll have a fast connection. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:55 | |
In rural areas, where the infrastructure hasn't been upgraded, | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
it's likely to be much slower. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
And though Martin and Diane's guests come to get away from it all, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
like the rest of us, they've learned to expect fast internet access wherever they are. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
They may be getting five- or six-meg broadband where they are | 0:09:11 | 0:09:15 | |
and expecting, you know, to be able to have a very similar response | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
when they come away. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
Unfortunately, you have to tell them, "It's very disappointing. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
"I'm sorry, this is all we can get." | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
When they signed up, | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
it was a package advertising speeds of up to 20Mb. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:33 | |
Although now, the maximum BT can claim is up to 16, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:38 | |
because just this month, there's been a major change in the way | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
that broadband speeds are allowed to be advertised. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
Internet service providers, including BT, | 0:09:45 | 0:09:48 | |
can only promote speeds which 10% of their customers can receive. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
Of course, Martin and Diane's speeds couldn't be further away | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
from the maximum that most people can hope for. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
They knew they'd never get the fastest connection living here, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
but hadn't imagined it would be as slow and unpredictable as it is. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:08 | |
Or that it would have such an impact. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
I don't think we thought, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
having lived in London and in major towns, | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
that to have such a slow broadband connection | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
was something that we needed to take into consideration. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
I don't think we believed that it was a situation | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
that there wasn't a solution to. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
And what's especially galling for the couple is that | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
they still have to pay £19/month to BT, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
even though they're not getting anything like | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
the same broadband speed as most other customers | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
who are paying the same rate. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
The couple say the reason BT have given them for the slow connection | 0:10:42 | 0:10:46 | |
is that they're a long way from the exchange | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
and the system uses the original copper wiring. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
And it's not like they can switch to another provider. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
Because we have copper wire and there is no fibre optics, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
some companies won't entertain us at all, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
other companies will offer us a service, | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
but with no better speed, but costing us much more money - | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
almost triple what we're paying now. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
And I can't afford that. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
Michael Phillips is the broadband expert | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
for the price comparison site Consumer Choices. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
Broadband is now one of life's essentials. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
It's like the fourth utility. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
So not having a useful broadband connection | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
can be a massive inconvenience on people's lives. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
But that is magnified by an enormous extent for businesses. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:38 | |
It's almost impossible to operate | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
if you don't have a fast broadband connection. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
Martin and Diane would agree, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:45 | |
and are in no doubt about what they'd like to see. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
If you're providing a service that's vastly inferior | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
than someone in the middle of London can get | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
you have to charge less. And until Ofcom, or someone, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
has the power to force British Telecom to do that, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
there will be no movement from where we are. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:04 | |
BT told Rip-Off Britain that their policy has always been | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
to give customers an... | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
..before they sign up. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
And they say that their pricing is based on... | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
..including usage limits and security features. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:22 | |
They've confirmed that Martin and Diane receive the... | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
There may yet be some hope. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
The Government has invested £530 million | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
to try and help roll out faster broadband to rural area by 2015. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
Martin and Diane's area is set for improvements next summer. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
Martin and Diane hope that, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:43 | |
if there are improvements in their area, they don't come | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
too late for them to realise their dreams | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
and make a success of their business. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
I'm incredibly frustrated by it. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
I can't grow my business | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
because I can't offer the services to my customers and my guests | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
that they feel - and I feel - they should have. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:06 | |
I just can't grow my business. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
'For one weekend only, we opened up a consumer advice clinic | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
'in a pop-up shop in Manchester. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
'We had a team of experts on hand to solve your problems face-to-face.' | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
We've got a couple of people from Trading Standards | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
and we've got some other people in there, as well. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
I hope there's somebody in there to point you in the right direction. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:34 | |
But perhaps the busiest part of the shop was our special gripe box - | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
a place to come in and tell us what you really think. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
-Been ripped-off. -I want some help. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
-I think it's disgusting. -They've never got back to me. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
The price has gone up. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:49 | |
It does look a bit like a TARDIS. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
It has been so popular today, I can't tell you. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
It's been rather difficult to get people out. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
So they love the idea they're in a box, contained. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
They can really get everything off their chest. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
What I don't like is when you ring up a customer services | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
and you have to get through to different people every time you ring, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
and none of them has the right information on the screen. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
One of the things my wife and I find extremely frustrating at home | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
is the number of unwanted telephone calls we get these days. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
Why aren't 0845 numbers straightforward, simple | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
and who you're going to ring? | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
Whenever I want to phone up the bank or, increasingly, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
other organisations, I'm being charged 40p, 50p per minute, | 0:14:28 | 0:14:33 | |
which I think is unfair | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
and it seems to be that there aren't any options now to phone a landline. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
So, paying for local calls at national rate seems to be | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
a real bugbear. And Paul asked for some advice | 0:14:44 | 0:14:47 | |
on his gripe from Trading Standards officer Sylvia Rook. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
How can I help you? | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
My particular gripe is with supposedly free telephone numbers - | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
0800 numbers. | 0:14:58 | 0:14:59 | |
I've just had my mobile phone bill, which normally is £12 a month, | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
which is now £50 and I just think it's a bit unfair, really. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:06 | |
Not just for students, but for everybody. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:08 | |
Companies do it because it's a standard charge, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
no matter where you phone from. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
That's the reason they give you the number. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
They can say that everybody pays the same amount of money. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
If you phone 0800 from a landline, it will always be a free call. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
But if you phone it from a mobile, they do charge you. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:26 | |
There's a website called SayNoTo0870.com. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
I've got it open here. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:31 | |
What it allows you to do is put in any of these numbers that start | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
with 08 and, if there is one, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
it will provide you with the alternative landline number. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
I've got the Student Loan Company. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
I can see it's an 0870 number, | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
so I can understand why it's caused you quite a bit of due stress. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
What it's done is come up with a landline number here. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
This is a good opportunity. It won't cover everything, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
but at least it should cut down on your telephone costs. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
I wish you luck with the rest of your degree. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
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And we'll be opening up our pop-up shop again | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
one weekend during this coming June. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
For the latest information, keep checking our website. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
Next: No-one wants to hand over hard-earned cash | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
for something they might be able to get for free. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
But, according to an investigation by Which? Magazine | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
and the charity Action On Hearing Loss, | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
that's exactly what can happen | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
with the sale of hearing aids on the high street. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
And there's one Rip-Off Britain viewer who now wonders | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
if he spent a lot more than he needed to. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
Norman Squire's hearing had served him pretty well until 2010, | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
when, aged 92, he noticed that he was starting to struggle a little. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:51 | |
I keep asking people to repeat things. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Somebody's got something to tell you and there's a punchline | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
and you miss that, so you say, "Beg your pardon?" | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
So they keep telling me I need a hearing aid. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
Norman's friend, Chris, was surprised his hearing was failing. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
I've never had trouble having a conversation with him. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:15 | |
I think I've got the advantage | 0:17:15 | 0:17:17 | |
of having worked with the deaf, that I'm used to speaking clearly, | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
which is a benefit to Norman. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
Though his problems seemed slight, Norman was pleased when one day a leaflet came through his door | 0:17:24 | 0:17:29 | |
from a chain of shops selling hearing aids, called Hidden Hearing. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
They had a local branch, so he popped along to see what they would advise. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:39 | |
They offered me a hearing aid to try and put in me ear | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
and it was like a big marble. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
So he said, "All right, try this one." | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
And he fits this one in. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
And there was nothing else, nothing else was forthcoming. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
So I don't know if they make anything else. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
Norman agreed to buy two hearing aids there and then - | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
one for each ear - | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
but was surprised to find how much they cost. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
I did have a friend who said they'd paid 2,000. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
So I thought, at tops, it would be 2,000. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
Instead of which it was nearly six. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
Norman didn't have £6,000, but he was able to spread the cost | 0:18:20 | 0:18:25 | |
with a finance agreement that the shop arranged for him. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
The name Hidden Hearing does suggest the shop specialises | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
in discreet devices. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Norman says he wasn't particularly concerned with how his looked, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
so long as they worked. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
But the small size of the aids immediately became an issue for him. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
Well the main problem | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
is it's a fiddly little thing to mess about with. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
-I can get them in. -It takes a long time, doesn't it? | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
I think the aid and its fittings are too small for Norman, | 0:18:56 | 0:19:02 | |
because his hands are big and he has arthritis. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
After months of practice, Norman began to find it easier | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
to put in the hearing aids, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
but as far as he was concerned, there was another problem. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
Well, on two or three occasions that little piece on the end, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
that goes right down into your ear... | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
..it just didn't come out with the rest of it when you took them off. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
It was starting to look like Norman had spent £6,000 on hearing aids | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
that were not necessarily the most | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
suitable for him and it's money he may not even have had to spend, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:39 | |
because the NHS can give similar aids for free. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:44 | |
Norman hadn't known that | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
and Hidden Hearing certainly didn't tell him. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
So would he have been eligible? | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
We have arranged for audiologist Crystal Rolfe to check. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
OK, Norman, I'm going to start off by having a look in your ears, OK? | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
One of the most important things to check | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
is whether that person will be able to fit it into their ear, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
what their dexterity of their hands is like, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
because hearing aids can be difficult to get in. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
What I'm just going to do is just press the button for me | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
every time you hear a sound. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:15 | |
Norman would certainly be eligible for an NHS hearing aid. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
Based on the tests we did | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
and talking to him about his dexterity in his fingers, | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
I'd recommend the normal-sized hearing aids behind his ear, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
maybe not one of the very small ones, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
just to make it easier for him to hold. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
And you can get a couple of different designs I've got here, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
on the NHS that would be suitable for you. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
Whenever Norman has called into the shop and mentioned his concerns, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
the staff have offered to fit his hearing aids for him. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:47 | |
But if he had to do that every time he has trouble, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
it would mean a special trip into town. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
We contacted Hidden Hearing on Norman's behalf. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
They insist his assessment met all required standards | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
and good practice | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
and the hearing aids he bought were believed appropriate. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
They say it would have been up to Norman's doctor | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
to explain he was eligible for an NHS one. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
But in any case, the particular model he got | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
would not have been available that way | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
and they claim they don't have any record of any complaint. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
Although Norman insists he has raised it with staff at the shop. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:25 | |
In 2010, Which? carried out an investigation | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
into a variety of shops selling hearing aids. | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
A third of the total number of stores they visited | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
were considered to have poor clinical assessments. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
And one of the other high street chains | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
even risked breaking the law, | 0:21:42 | 0:21:43 | |
by giving misleading information about the NHS | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
in order to promote their own products. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
Meanwhile Hidden Hearing say they're happy to discuss | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
changing Norman's hearing aids for a different model, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:57 | |
which could stop him worrying his expensive purchase | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
will end up in the back of a drawer gathering dust. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
You lose confidence in them and don't bother to put them on, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
which is a blatant waste of money, isn't it? | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Today, we've been hearing from people | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
who feel they've been slightly left behind | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
by the phone and broadband companies, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
not able to communicate as fast as they'd like to. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
And that's how things used to be | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
for the residents of the small fishing village of Robin Hood's Bay | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
on the Yorkshire coast. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
But not any more. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:33 | |
They got so fed up of being told they couldn't get broadband, | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
they decided to do something about it. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
This is Robin Hood's Bay on the North Yorkshire coast. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:43 | |
For years, this seaside village | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
simply had no access to a broadband internet connection - | 0:22:46 | 0:22:51 | |
until the residents took matters into their own hands. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
A local businessman, Cliff Southcombe, kicked things off | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
after realising his old-school dial-up connection | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
just wasn't coping with his business needs. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
People were using the internet more, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
businesses were using e-mail, Skype, those sort of things. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
So if things didn't change quickly, | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
we would be in trouble. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
Worried that without broadband, his business could suffer, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
Cliff began looking for a solution. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:22 | |
I spotted that there was a government-run scheme | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
to try and encourage broadband in the region | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
and a number of businesses were being offered free broadband | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
through a satellite dish for a year. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
I applied and was fortunate enough | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
to be one of the ones lucky enough to get it. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
And he loved having it. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
But, as the end of that free year approached, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
Cliff was left with two big problems. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
One was that, at the end of the year, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
I - or our business - was going to have to pay for that. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
And even at a cut rate, it was about £260 a month | 0:23:53 | 0:23:58 | |
for the broadband. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
And secondly, it wasn't a good position | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
to be the only one in the village with broadband. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
That was something that didn't seem fair. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
Cliff got together with some of the other locals | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
and together they came up with the answer. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
They formed a cooperative company and used the technical know-how of a couple of residents | 0:24:14 | 0:24:19 | |
to build their own broadband network | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
using a system of boxes and aerials | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
that could bounce the signal | 0:24:24 | 0:24:25 | |
from one central point to everyone in the village. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
Their ramshackle system worked a treat. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
When, a few years later, BT installed an advanced telephone line, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
they were able to use that | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
to iron out the final few problems. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
Another plus point was that, having Wi-Fi round the village, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
we have a lot of visitors coming to Robin Hood's Bay, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
so they could pick up broadband as well. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
And it provides a nice income for the cooperative as well | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
to help us keep the prices down for those people who live here. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
In fact, the cooperative charges users | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
just £5 a month for the service | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
and it seems to be going from strength to strength. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
Other broadband services have since become available in the area, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
but many prefer to stick with the home-grown provider. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
It's cheap, reliable, | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
always looking to extend and improve. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
The next thing we're looking at | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
is the link to the fibre-optic cable in Whitby. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
We need to do that via a relay over the hill at High Normanby. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:23 | |
And any customer service issues | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
can easily be dealt with over a pint at the pub. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
Internet just didn't exist before we all got together. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:33 | |
Downloading a web page and you could go and have a cup of coffee | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
and read the newspaper. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:38 | |
Uploading web pages was a terrible business. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
You hardly ever did it because it took so long. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:45 | |
What the locals have achieved here | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
is something they think could easily be copied elsewhere. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:51 | |
With a bit of determination and know-how, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
they've shown that, even if you have to do it yourself, | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
it is possible to get online, even in the unlikeliest of places. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
Here at Rip Off Britain, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
we're always ready to investigate more of your stories. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Confused over your bills? | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
Trying to wade through endless small print | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
that leaves you none the wiser? | 0:26:18 | 0:26:19 | |
I might have been stupid for not reading it, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
or I've read it and not took it in. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
I could kick myself. I really could. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
Unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
and that great deal has ended up costing you money? | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
I thought, "This cannot be true." | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
It's totally unacceptable. I was so angry. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
Don't forget you can write to us at - | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
Or send us an e-mail to - | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
The Rip-Off Britain team is ready and waiting | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
to investigate your stories. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
And that is it for today. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
But we can all learn something | 0:27:07 | 0:27:08 | |
from the locals we saw earlier in Robin Hood's Bay. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
Didn't they do very well? | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
If you are unhappy with service, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
not just from your broadband supplier, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
but anyone you do business with, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
then for goodness' sake, do something about it. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
At the very least, speak up and complain, is what we always say. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
Absolutely. Make your voices heard. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
Meanwhile, we are rather hoping | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
that the government's plans to upgrade most of us | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
to the fastest broadband system in Europe, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
is going to signal an end to the sort of problems | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
that you've been telling us about today. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:37 | |
But do let us know how things pan out in your area. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
And also, if it looks like the communications revolution | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
is leaving you behind. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:45 | |
In the meantime, do join us again | 0:27:45 | 0:27:47 | |
when we will be investigating more of your stories | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
and showing you how to avoid being ripped off. Till next time, goodbye. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:54 | |
-Bye-bye. -From all of us, bye-bye. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
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