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We asked you to tell us who's left you feeling ripped off.

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I think this is very, very, very wrong for what they have done.

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The bank piles charges upon charges upon charges.

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Legally, it was right.

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Morally, that's where the question and doubt comes in my view.

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And you contacted us in your thousands,

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by post, e-mail, even stopping us in the streets.

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And the message could not be clearer.

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You don't get a straight answer. They try and fob you off.

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-I'm not happy at all.

-It's always that very small print

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that's got the clause in you didn't realise.

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We're being ripped off big time.

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Whether it's a deliberate rip-off,

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a simple mistake or a catch in the small print,

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we'll find out why you're out of pocket, and what you can do about it.

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Keep asking the questions, go to the top if you have to.

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We do get results. I mean, that's the interesting thing.

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Your stories, your money - this is Rip-Off Britain.

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Hello, and welcome to Rip-Off Britain,

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the programme that shines a light on the companies that you say

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haven't given you the service you expected or that you'd paid for.

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But you know, sometimes, when you think you've had a raw deal,

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it can be those unexpected surprises in the small print

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or those catches in the paperwork.

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And, believe me, there are plenty of those stories coming up today,

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because we are taking on the mighty insurance industry.

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That's because hundreds of you have contacted us to tell us

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that you really feel let down by insurance policies

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that just haven't paid out, despite the fact

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that you have faithfully handed over your premiums year after year.

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So are insurance companies treating you fairly

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or have you perhaps misunderstood the terms

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and, perhaps, not read the small print?

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Well, we're going to find out.

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Also coming up on today's show,

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just how ill do you have to be to claim on a critical illness policy?

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You automatically think, if something happens, you know, you lose a limb,

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you think you're covered and have peace of mind.

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But I come to them for help, and they say no.

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And more of your problems and dilemmas solved

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at the Rip-Off Britain pop-up shop.

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It sounds, from what you told me, you've got a very clear-cut case here

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and you should be paid out on your policy.

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Now, many of us in the UK are apparently more likely

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to insure our pets, or indeed our mobile phones,

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than we are to take out cover on our own lives.

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According to an industry survey,

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56% of us don't have any sort of life insurance.

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Maybe we don't like to think of what will happen to us after we've gone,

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but Audrey Stone did. She wanted to think about it

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and, for 20 years, she paid into a life insurance policy

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to make sure that her family would be protected.

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Unfortunately, there was a snag with her final payments and we all know

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how insurance companies can be sticklers for their rules.

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Stephen Stone thought that he was prepared for his mum dying.

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She'd been ill for a very long time.

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But she'd been determined to leave money behind for her family.

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My mum started work when she was 14. Worked at Basset's in Sheffield,

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you may know for Liquorice Allsorts. That's what she used to make.

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Then she went to work on the trams, so she's worked all her life

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and, when we lost my dad, and that was 19 years ago,

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that's when she decided to take out life insurances.

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In 1989, Stephen's mum Audrey

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took out two life insurance policies. One with Abbey Life.

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And she paid her monthly premiums on both policies for almost 20 years.

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The payments started something around £20-odd,

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increased over the years to £40. Over that period of time,

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she's probably paid back something in the excess of £8,000.

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But around five years ago, Audrey started to show signs of illness.

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She was in her mid-70s when we first noticed

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that she had signs of dementia

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and dementia follows generally a certain path.

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I was taking her on a regular basis to the hospital

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to have health checks and to have mental health checks.

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Did that with her for a considerable time.

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Then she started then getting worse and worse.

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With his mum's health deteriorating,

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Stephen turned to social services for help.

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'We were unable to deal with all her needs 24/7 and it was good that

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'we could then get a package put together by social services,

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'who did a very good job of getting carers in to see her four times a day

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'to make sure she was taking the appropriate medication

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'and she was eating and getting dressed.'

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As part of the care package, social services appointed an organisation

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to help Audrey handle her bank account and the payments from it.

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This arrangement continued until, sadly, Audrey passed away.

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'Losing my mum was a great blow to us.

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'She was the fifth of six sisters to go.'

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All the others have died with forms of dementia.

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To add to Stephen's trauma,

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he received some unexpected financial news.

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Only one of Audrey's life insurance policies was going to pay out.

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'We went to our financial advisor,

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'who has been a family friend for many years. I was fully expecting

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'to get then paid out for both of the insurance policies

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'to help us towards the funeral costs, etc.

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'He just gave me a cheque.

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'I asked where the other one was from the other policy'

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and he says, "Oh, that's lapsed," and that was the first time

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we learned that the premiums had not been paid.

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Not been paid?

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But Audrey had faithfully been doing that for years.

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So while Stephen had expected the policy to now be worth £17,000,

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according to Abbey Life, he wouldn't see a penny.

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I think my mother's reaction to the policy not being paid out

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would've been horrific.

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It was one thing that she always said whenever I went up to visit

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that, "There's no worries when I go,

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"You'll have this, you'll have that, you can do this, you can do that."

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Stephen discovered that, towards the end of Audrey's life,

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the organisation appointed by social services to manage her bank account

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had been trying to pay the premiums on her behalf,

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but Abbey Life had refused to accept payments from the third party,

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even though it was all official, and Audrey was too ill to do it herself.

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So, after 19 years of never missing a payment,

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Audrey's policy was now worthless.

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My initial thoughts at Abbey Life refusing to pay it

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was that was an absolute disgrace,

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that an insurance company who'd been accepting payments

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for nearly 20 years on a premium and never missed a date,

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would suddenly decide, after a couple of premiums missed,

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that it was fair enough for them to just lapse that policy.

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Abbey Life told us that,

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although they sympathise with Stephen over the loss of his mother,

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all too often they see attempted identity thefts,

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so they need to protect policyholders

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and especially those in a vulnerable position.

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They say they were never shown the necessary valid authority

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to prove that a third party was acting on Audrey's behalf and that,

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ultimately, all insurance policies lapse if the premiums are not paid.

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But when Abbey Life wouldn't budge,

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Stephen took his case to the Financial Ombudsman Service.

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In September, they ruled in his favour, saying that the company

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should've taken a more understanding and consumer-friendly approach.

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They said it was clear what Audrey's intentions had been

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and, as a result, ordered the company to pay out, which, thankfully, they've now done.

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But Stephen feels that they should have done that in the first place.

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I think it's grossly unfair that they should refuse to pay out

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on a policy that has been in place for so many years,

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when this person then becomes the subject of mental health problems.

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If you feel you've been short-changed by a company

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that you put your faith in, then do let us know.

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We'll have all the contact details later in the programme.

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Next today, though, a rip-off viewer who got in touch

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after an experience that left them feeling bitterly let down.

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So we decided to investigate.

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For Yannick, a decision to move into a rented flat in Crystal Palace

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was one he and his wife would live to regret.

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I started looking for a flat in July 2010.

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Me and my wife had moved from Portugal and were desperate to find somewhere, as I'd started a job.

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'We were looking in South East London predominately,

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'close to where I was working.

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'And, eventually, we found somewhere to live and it was £500 a month,

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'so we thought it was quite reasonable for the area.'

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All bills included. So I made a commitment and signed a contract.

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But before too long, Yannick and his wife Fatima wished they had

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taken a closer look at the property before signing on the dotted line.

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After a few days, I realised things weren't all as they seem.

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'I noticed that the walls had mould on,

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'I noticed the carpet was in a bad condition.

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'I realised, obviously, I'd made a mistake.

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'It was a shock for my wife as she'd moved to England for the first time.'

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She couldn't believe we were paying £500 to live in conditions like that.

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After eight months, they'd had enough and decided it was time to move out.

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After requesting the deposit,

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we received an invoice from the landlady requesting £468.

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This was for repairs to the property, including replacing the carpet,

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replacing the toilet seat, cleaning the curtains, this kind of thing.

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I couldn't believe she was claiming we had broken and damaged all these things in the studio.

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I was really shocked and there was no way I was going to pay for that.

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Disputes between tenants and landlords are not uncommon,

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which is where the Deposit Protection Scheme comes into play.

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It is authorised by the government and is designed to arbitrate

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in cases where agreement can't otherwise be reached.

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I'd asked if she'd registered with the Deposit Protection Scheme,

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as she was obliged to under the terms of the contract.

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After a week of chasing the landlady to get an answer to my question,

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the landlady told me that she hadn't registered the deposit as she felt she didn't need to.

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I told her that, under law,

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she was actually obliged to register the deposit and I asked her to do so,

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otherwise I would take legal action against her.

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Yannick was right. Landlords with Assured Shorthold Tenancy agreements

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in England and Wales have an obligation to lodge deposits

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with protection schemes within 14 days of receiving the money.

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Yannick's landlords did eventually do this,

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a full eight months too late.

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The DPS was then faced with two very different versions of events.

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'Me and my wife put in a claim for the full £500 deposit

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'and the landlady put in her claim.'

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So, basically, that's just led to a stalemate with counterclaims.

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The landlady sent through her evidence as to why

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she believed that we caused the damage and then I sent

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a counterclaim detailing why I felt that her evidence was not accurate.

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We asked Yannick's landlords to comment.

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They told us that there are two sides to every story. They claim,

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when the couple moved in, they signed an independent report

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stating that the condition of the property was fine.

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The landlords also told us that they'd initially been advised that,

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because the flat was part of their home,

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it didn't need to be registered with the Deposit Protection Scheme.

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Campbell Robb from the campaign group Shelter believes that

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some tenants don't do enough to protect themselves

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and this can lead to all sorts of problems.

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If you're thinking about renting a flat, get some advice.

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Don't just do this alone. Come to Shelter, go to the Citizens' Advice,

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there's loads of stuff available. One of the key things

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that anybody needs to do if they're taking a private rented property is

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make sure that their deposit is safe.

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The government has a scheme which ensures that landlords

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put your deposit somewhere safe, so you get it back at the end of that.

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So make sure your landlord is part of the Tenancy Deposit Scheme.

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It's a key way of protecting your money while it's with the landlord.

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In this couple's case, this protection meant they eventually

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got the majority of their money back.

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And Yannick says that, in future,

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he'll be much more cautious before agreeing to sign anything.

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If I had my time again, I wouldn't be as naive as I had been

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and I would really check everything first and make sure that

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I was entering a legitimate contract and that all parties can be trusted.

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Now, there can't be too many things worse than that sickening feeling

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when you realise that you haven't actually got

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what you thought you would be getting for your money.

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But that's exactly what happened to this next Rip-Off viewer

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and we were absolutely determined to get them some answers.

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Meet Graham Burt, a bus driver from Bury.

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He lives with his partner Rachel and their four children

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and, generally, he has his hands full.

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Every day needs careful planning. So when the Burts' car broke down,

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they knew they had no option but to get a replacement and fast.

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We only had two days to find the car. We had to have it by Monday

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because Rachel wouldn't be able to take the kids to school

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then get to work on time in the centre of Manchester.

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I was working as well, so I had to take my car to work

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because I had no public transport either to my work.

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So it was very important to get the car.

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It wasn't long before Graham found a card he liked on a car supermarket website.

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He headed down to Carcraft's Rochdale showroom to take a look.

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It didn't have the car I wanted.

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They only had the three-door Mitsubishi Colt or an automatic

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and I said I needed a five-door manual, because of the children.

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I need to get them in and out of the car.

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And he said, "We'll have a look on the computer, see if there's any in stock,"

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and he said, "Yes, there's one in Leeds.

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"We can get it driven up for you and you can pick it up tomorrow." I said, "That's perfect."

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The following night, the car arrived.

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It was dark, but Graham gave it a quick once-over and agreed to buy it.

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It was priced at around £7,900.

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All he needed now was a finance plan to pay for that.

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I have dyslexia and I'm very slow at reading,

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so it takes me a while to read through things.

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There was that much documentation, I would've been a while,

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so I asked the salesman and he said, "This is your finance agreement.

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"Your APR's this over five years, and just sign at the bottom."

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He put wee crosses and I had to sign there and, the next page, sign that.

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Dotted line signed, Graham drove off. But almost immediately, he began having problems.

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As I was driving home, I noticed the car was pulling to the left.

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If you took your hands off the steering wheel slightly or took pressure off,

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the car would veer to the left, towards the kerb.

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I was like, "Oh, that's a bit strange."

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The car was used for the children to go to school in,

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so from a safety point of view,

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I didn't feel it was safe to drive the vehicle with the children in it with that fault.

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Putting safety first, Graham headed back to Carcraft the following day.

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Their mechanics said the steering fault was to do with the tracking.

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While they were checking the tracking,

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they noticed one of the tyres was completely bald almost.

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They said the cogs were showing so they had to replace it that day.

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They told me to come back the next week to get the tracking repaired.

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Graham's confidence in Carcraft was beginning to waiver.

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He couldn't understand how the Mitsubishi had been approved for sale when it had problems.

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There was big banners as you drive in - 120 point check, two year free warranty, parts and labour,

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and it all looks though it's all sold round this check and everything,

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so you expect the car to be perfect, cos the salesman told me the car had a big check on it.

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It's been checked out, serviced, everything.

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Graham claims the car was repeatedly in and out of the garage as Carcraft tried to fix the steering.

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And as if that wasn't enough, when the finance agreement kicked in,

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he got another nasty shock.

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I realised I had two loans coming out of the bank, totalling £232 a month.

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I was quite shocked because I was expecting the car to cost just under £200 a month.

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So it was an extra £36 nearly I'm paying a month which I was expecting.

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It turns out the loans are to two different companies.

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The first thought the car was overvalued and so would only loan Graham £5,800.

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The shortfall, just under two grand, came from the second firm.

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And the extra £36 a month that Graham's being charged for?

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Well, that's for an extended four year warranty,

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something Graham can't remember agreeing to.

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We asked Carcraft to comment on Graham's claims,

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and they told us they were sorry for the problems he'd encountered.

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They said, "All our cars undergo a standard 120 point inspection."

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"There is always the risk of unforeseen issues,

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"but we believe we have a fair approach to resolving these."

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Carcraft admitted to us that this hasn't always been the case, saying,

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"We're genuinely sorry that in the past some customers didn't receive the levels of service we now offer."

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As for the paperwork, they told us that it's always fully explained to customers

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with time allowed for reading and questions.

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In addition to this,

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"Each document signed clearly states the monthly repayments."

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Graham may not remember signing up for the additional warranty,

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but his signature is on the paperwork, so he has to pay.

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Problems on both sides in this story. But one thing's for sure,

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Graham has definitely learned one of life's most valuable lessons:

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act in haste, repent at leisure.

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If you've had a similar experience and aren't sure what to do next, don't worry.

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We've done some of the hard work for you.

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Here are the key things you need to bear in mind.

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If you buy a new car, it's going to come with an extended warranty, perhaps lasting three years or more.

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If you buy a second-hand car,

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it is possible that things are going to go wrong with that vehicle.

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You may be entitled to have those things repaired,

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but it might be difficult for you to negotiate those repairs with the dealer.

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Your rights when buying from a second-hand car dealer are covered by the Sale of Goods Act.

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That says that good must be of a satisfactory quality, that is, they must be free from faults.

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In addition to that they must be as described

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and they must be fit for the purpose for which you buy them.

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That is, you must be capable of driving it and driving it safely.

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You have to act quickly and you're pretty limited on why you can reject a car.

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There will have to be some serious defect with that car,

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such as the engine blowing up, or a major fault that isn't readily fixed.

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So, it's what's reasonably expected.

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If a salesman's misled you about a second-hand car, you've got two options,

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the first being you can reject that car and get your money back.

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Alternatively, you could negotiate a reduction in the price on that vehicle that you're happy with

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and continue with the purchase.

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If you bought a car on finance, that provides you with additional protection,

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because it makes the finance company equally liable for anything that goes wrong with that vehicle

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as well as the dealership.

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So if something happens to that car dealer, then you can make a claim against the finance company.

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Still to come on Rip-Off Britain:

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Caught out by the small print on your insurance policy?

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Martin Wells is familiar with that feeling.

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MARTIN: It says you can't pay out unless you have two limbs amputated.

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I just sat there... "You are joking, aren't you?"

0:20:120:20:15

He says, "No."

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Our experts have been rushed off their feet at our pop-up shop for consumer advice.

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You can take the claims through the Financial Ombudsman Service yourself.

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Persevere and I think you've got a good chance of getting a pay-out.

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So many of you contacted us, telling us about your stories,

0:20:350:20:39

that we decided to open up our own pop-up shop

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so that we could meet you face-to-face to tackle your issues.

0:20:430:20:46

Here in Manchester, one subject that seems to be the source of many problems for people is insurance.

0:20:460:20:53

So let's find out more.

0:20:530:20:55

-Hiya!

-Hiya.

-What's your name?

-My name's Dawn.

-Dawn.

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So what are you here for today?

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I had a heart attack in January

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and I bought some critical illness insurance about ten years ago.

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To cut a long story short, I'm having difficulty with them to pay out.

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Time to see if Dawn can be helped by James Daly from Which?

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They're actually saying to me that I don't have a claim,

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that I haven't suffered a heart attack.

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I've been told by my consultant, by my cardio nurse,

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by quite a few people that I've actually had a heart attack.

0:21:320:21:35

In fact, I'm on five lots of medication,

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and I've spoken to the insurance company and told them what the consultant has said,

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and they've told me that for future insurance I would have to inform them that I've had a heart attack.

0:21:430:21:50

In one hand they're telling me I've not had a heart attack

0:21:500:21:53

and on the other they're telling me I've got to inform them that I've had a heart attack.

0:21:530:21:59

We've gone in to appeal and we've got a final letter from them stating,

0:21:590:22:02

"No, no way. You haven't got a claim."

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It's just a big full stop on it.

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There's a good chance you will get your claim paid out here.

0:22:070:22:11

But you will need to persevere.

0:22:110:22:14

Ultimately, when it comes to whether you had a heart attack or not,

0:22:140:22:17

hopefully, that's something that the doctors can verify.

0:22:170:22:21

It seems very odd to me they'd be trying to deny it,

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but at the same time saying you need to declare it

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for future policies which doesn't make any sense.

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The next step is to take the case

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on to the Financial Ombudsman Service.

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That's an independent service.

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They're looking out for your rights and trying to look at the case cold,

0:22:380:22:42

no preference either side and see who's right and who's wrong here.

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It sounds from what you've told me that you've got

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a very clear cut case here

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and you should be paid out on your policy.

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If you put in your claim to them today,

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and you can do that online.

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Go to their website. File your claim.

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It's not that difficult to take the claim

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through the Financial Ombudsman Service yourself.

0:23:030:23:06

It might take a bit of time,

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persevere and you have a good chance of getting a payout.

0:23:080:23:11

Good advice, but there is more advice on our website.

0:23:110:23:15

And you will be pleased to know

0:23:170:23:19

Dawn's case is currently being investigated further,

0:23:190:23:23

so we really wish her well.

0:23:230:23:25

Opening up our pop-up shop here in Manchester

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has been a great opportunity for us

0:23:280:23:30

to investigate your rip-offs face to face.

0:23:300:23:32

£600, that will buy you a few Christmas presents, won't it?

0:23:320:23:36

It certainly will.

0:23:360:23:37

It's been so nice to actually get to meet you

0:23:370:23:40

and to hear what you've got to say directly.

0:23:400:23:42

It went really well, I managed to save £271.

0:23:420:23:45

Five minutes of your time online

0:23:450:23:47

and I can afford to go on holiday now.

0:23:470:23:48

I feel a lot easier, I feel a lot happier.

0:23:480:23:51

The advice I have been given is very sound, very sensible.

0:23:510:23:53

It was definitely worth coming down today.

0:23:530:23:56

Got some useful information, so we're going to go home

0:23:560:24:00

and put that advice to action.

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Here's someone else with a problem.

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And they are not at all happy about it.

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In October 2007, Sally Murray and her husband-to-be Matthew

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were looking for a place to rent in Lancashire.

0:24:170:24:20

We found a property in a little village called Summerseat

0:24:200:24:23

which we thought was an ideal place to start off,

0:24:230:24:27

our first home together, renting together.

0:24:270:24:30

When we initially went to view the property

0:24:300:24:32

the landlord was living there.

0:24:320:24:35

There was furniture in there, there were things in cupboards

0:24:350:24:38

and it all looked like a normal house.

0:24:380:24:40

It looked like a homely home.

0:24:400:24:42

After deciding it was just what they wanted,

0:24:420:24:46

the couple agreed terms and paid a month's rent up front.

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As well as the same amount again as a deposit.

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In total, £1,350.

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But it wasn't long before Sally was telling her father Alan

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that the home of their dreams was turning into a nightmare.

0:25:000:25:04

Shortly after getting the keys and moving in my belongings,

0:25:040:25:08

we went on holiday.

0:25:080:25:09

Then my boyfriend came out in all bites over his legs.

0:25:090:25:13

We didn't really know where it had come from at that stage.

0:25:130:25:17

We got back from holiday and went to the house again

0:25:170:25:20

and these bites had cleared up almost

0:25:200:25:23

and he got some fresh bites on his legs.

0:25:230:25:25

And we went another evening

0:25:250:25:27

and he got some more bites and I got a few bites.

0:25:270:25:29

Then we sort of thought, this is a coincidence.

0:25:290:25:33

We had a look in the Hoover

0:25:330:25:34

and that's when I found the fleas jumping around in the cylinder.

0:25:340:25:38

Once we found the fleas, that was the final straw,

0:25:380:25:42

we couldn't move into a house that had fleas.

0:25:420:25:45

Even though we said we wanted it fumigating,

0:25:450:25:48

we just couldn't be happy there.

0:25:480:25:50

So Sally got in touch with the landlord.

0:25:500:25:53

We met him at the property with my parents

0:25:530:25:55

and he agreed to give me my deposit back

0:25:550:25:58

once I gave him the key which I did.

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I gave him my bank details and he was to put the money into my account.

0:26:000:26:03

When the money didn't materialise,

0:26:030:26:06

Sally's dad Alan, a retired policeman,

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took up the fight on her behalf.

0:26:100:26:12

He was supposed to be electronically moving the cash,

0:26:120:26:15

didn't move anything.

0:26:150:26:17

She tried texting, e-mailing, ringing and got absolutely nothing.

0:26:170:26:21

Annoyed that her money had not been returned,

0:26:210:26:24

Sally and dad Alan decided to take legal action.

0:26:240:26:29

I actually had to interview him myself and sit next to him in court

0:26:290:26:32

and ask him questions about his finances.

0:26:320:26:35

They made a claim to the county court and the judge ordered the landlord

0:26:350:26:40

to pay them the money back plus penalties totalling £4,088.

0:26:400:26:46

But the landlord claimed poverty.

0:26:460:26:48

And Sally has never received a penny.

0:26:480:26:52

I'm now out of pocket £1,350 which is £675 for the deposit

0:26:520:26:56

and £675 rent and I feel totally ripped off

0:26:560:27:00

because I've not stayed one night in the property.

0:27:000:27:03

He hasn't given us a proper response, but when Rip-Off Britain

0:27:030:27:08

spoke to him on the phone,

0:27:080:27:10

the landlord claimed there were no fleas,

0:27:100:27:13

and he hadn't promised Sally her money back.

0:27:130:27:16

Although, of course, the court judgment tells a different tale.

0:27:160:27:20

In any case, Alan feels Sally's money should have been protected

0:27:200:27:23

by the Government's tenancy deposit scheme.

0:27:230:27:26

The purpose of the tenancy deposit scheme

0:27:260:27:28

was to make sure tenants weren't ripped off by avaricious landlords.

0:27:280:27:34

And to a great extent it's probably working.

0:27:340:27:37

However it seems to me there is no real check

0:27:370:27:40

to see that landlords are doing what they should be doing.

0:27:400:27:44

Four years after it all began,

0:27:440:27:47

Sally now accepts that she will probably never get her money back.

0:27:470:27:51

I feel totally annoyed with the whole situation,

0:27:510:27:54

that I'm owed the money, I need the money.

0:27:540:27:57

I could be spending it on my baby, I could be spending it on my house,

0:27:570:28:01

I could be spending it on myself, my husband now.

0:28:010:28:05

And he's walking around, and to be honest,

0:28:050:28:07

I feel like he's laughing at me now.

0:28:070:28:10

He's walked away with my money, it's as easy as that.

0:28:100:28:12

He's ripped me off and there's nobody there

0:28:120:28:14

to stop him from doing it.

0:28:140:28:16

At a time when money is tighter than ever,

0:28:190:28:21

you need to know that your cash is working hard for you,

0:28:210:28:24

avoiding rip-offs and sharp practice along the way.

0:28:240:28:27

We've put together a booklet of tips and advice

0:28:270:28:30

to help safeguard your hard-earned cash.

0:28:300:28:33

You can find a link to the free guide on our website.

0:28:330:28:37

Or to receive a copy in the post, send an A5 self-addressed envelope

0:28:400:28:45

to the address we will give you at the end of the programmes.

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One type of insurance that all too often

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proves controversial is critical illness.

0:28:540:28:57

Around 9 million of us have it, usually in the belief that

0:28:570:29:00

if we do become seriously ill, our bills and expenses will be covered.

0:29:000:29:05

Unfortunately, for a lot of us that won't be the case.

0:29:050:29:08

Many critical illness policies are quite limited

0:29:080:29:11

in their scope, only paying out in very specific circumstances.

0:29:110:29:15

Just how specific those circumstances need to be

0:29:150:29:19

can often come as quite a shock as Martin Wells discovered.

0:29:190:29:24

Martin Wells is a bus driver

0:29:270:29:29

and has worked hard all of his life to support his family.

0:29:290:29:33

I was the main provider, I used to bring home a reasonable wage.

0:29:330:29:38

My wife worked part-time,

0:29:380:29:40

but unfortunately she had to finish work as well for medical reasons.

0:29:400:29:45

Worried about how they would cope if he was ever too ill to work,

0:29:450:29:48

Martin took out a critical illness insurance policy

0:29:480:29:50

with Scottish Widows.

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It was taken out to pay the mortgage off so the family didn't have to worry,

0:29:530:29:58

they would have a roof over their heads and somewhere to live.

0:29:580:30:02

-Not long now.

-Yes.

-Skeggy stadium.

-Awesome.

0:30:020:30:07

'It wasn't cheap, it was one of the more expensive policies I've got'

0:30:070:30:11

as opposed to life insurance.

0:30:110:30:13

But I was willing to pay it, again, for peace of mind.

0:30:140:30:19

And he did get peace of mind,

0:30:210:30:23

expecting if he ever had to stop work because of critical-illness

0:30:230:30:27

the policy would pay out half a million pounds.

0:30:270:30:31

12 years on, when an old motorbike injury began to deteriorate,

0:30:310:30:34

he found he was struggling to do his job.

0:30:340:30:37

I couldn't walk more than about four or five steps

0:30:370:30:40

without it really...really hurting.

0:30:400:30:45

I was hobbling around, still driving, still working,

0:30:450:30:49

trying to keep going as long as I could

0:30:490:30:52

and I just got to the end of the pain I could take, basically.

0:30:520:30:58

Martin retired from driving buses on the grounds of ill-health,

0:31:000:31:04

but his leg continued to get worse with many ulcers and infections.

0:31:040:31:07

Eventually his doctors told him that the only solution

0:31:070:31:11

was, unfortunately, amputation.

0:31:110:31:13

The fact I was going to have my leg amputated...

0:31:130:31:16

..I knew it was going to cause a few problems.

0:31:180:31:22

But it was the only course of action I had got left open to me.

0:31:240:31:28

I couldn't go on for ever with the infections.

0:31:290:31:32

Once he had recovered from the operation,

0:31:320:31:35

Martin planned to make a claim on his critical illness insurance

0:31:350:31:39

assuming that losing a limb was the kind of event the policy covered him for.

0:31:390:31:43

But when he called Scottish Widows he got a huge shock.

0:31:430:31:49

They said, "Well, I'm sorry to tell you,

0:31:490:31:52

"but the fact you're only having one leg amputated, we can't pay out.

0:31:520:31:55

I sort of sat there somewhat stunned. "I beg your pardon."

0:31:550:32:01

He says, "We can't pay out unless you have two limbs amputated at the same time."

0:32:010:32:07

I just sat there... "You are joking, aren't you?" He says, "No."

0:32:080:32:13

He said, "That's our policy,

0:32:150:32:17

"you have to have two limbs amputated before we'll pay out."

0:32:170:32:23

Although it seemed unfair to Martin,

0:32:240:32:26

a close look at Scottish Widows critical illness policy

0:32:260:32:30

shows that what he was told is correct.

0:32:300:32:33

The policy covers, to quote, "permanent physical severance

0:32:330:32:36

"of any combination of two or more hands or feet."

0:32:360:32:39

That apparently is pretty standard in the industry,

0:32:390:32:43

but for Martin the news was devastating.

0:32:430:32:46

I don't need it, I've enough on my plate now.

0:32:460:32:50

I'm in a wheelchair.

0:32:500:32:52

It's difficult. It's very, very difficult.

0:32:520:32:55

Plus I've also got the pressure of, is everything being paid?

0:32:550:33:00

Martin is waiting to see if he's suitable for a prosthetic leg.

0:33:000:33:03

If he gets one, he is hoping to return to the bus depot

0:33:030:33:08

and drive buses again part time.

0:33:080:33:10

-Hello, Martin.

-Hi, Alan. How are you, mate? All right?

0:33:100:33:13

But for now things are really tough.

0:33:130:33:17

Money for us at the moment is extremely tight.

0:33:170:33:20

We have to be very, very careful.

0:33:200:33:23

I mean, if we need new things, like we have to replace anything,

0:33:260:33:32

we have to sort of juggle things around to afford it.

0:33:320:33:38

And it's...it's a strain, to be perfectly honest.

0:33:410:33:46

Martin's story is similar to ones that Emma Parker

0:33:460:33:50

from the Financial Ombudsman Service has heard many times before.

0:33:500:33:55

Last year alone, they received 598 complaints

0:33:550:33:59

about critical illness policies not paying out.

0:33:590:34:02

But the majority were not upheld because insurance of this type

0:34:020:34:08

is usually much more limited than people realise.

0:34:080:34:11

Critical illness is a policy that covers you for certain named illnesses

0:34:110:34:15

and they are carefully defined within the policy.

0:34:150:34:17

The Association of British Insurers has been doing work with insurers

0:34:170:34:21

and have published information about how they expect insurers

0:34:210:34:24

to define conditions under critical illness policies.

0:34:240:34:27

It is the insurers' responsibility to make sure that information

0:34:270:34:30

is there and clearly in line with the ABI standards.

0:34:300:34:35

Scottish Widows told us that they always look for ways

0:34:350:34:39

to see how a claim can be paid and in this case,

0:34:390:34:41

even in the absence of a formal claim,

0:34:410:34:43

they did investigate whether Martin might be covered

0:34:430:34:47

under any other definition of the policy, but he wasn't.

0:34:470:34:51

They point out that since 2000, they have paid out well over

0:34:510:34:54

£1 billion in life and critical illness claims.

0:34:540:34:58

They have helped over 30,000 families and that all customers

0:34:580:35:01

get an annual benefits statement

0:35:010:35:03

setting out the cover that they have.

0:35:030:35:05

So it is worth checking the small print to avoid

0:35:110:35:14

discovering too late as Martin did,

0:35:140:35:16

that your premiums haven't given you quite the protection you think.

0:35:160:35:20

You automatically think, if something happens,

0:35:200:35:23

you lose a limb or you have a heart attack,

0:35:230:35:27

you have to have open-heart surgery, you think you're covered.

0:35:270:35:31

You have got peace of mind.

0:35:310:35:34

But I come to them for help and they say no.

0:35:340:35:40

Well, Martin's insurers aren't budging

0:35:400:35:43

and however sympathetic you may be to his situation,

0:35:430:35:47

technically there is no reason why they should.

0:35:470:35:49

As they say, they are following the standard industry guidelines.

0:35:490:35:53

It just goes to show how vital it is that you understand the terms

0:35:530:35:57

and exclusions, of not just critical illness,

0:35:570:36:00

but any form of life insurance.

0:36:000:36:03

Critical illness insurance is designed to pay out a lump sum

0:36:030:36:06

if you are diagnosed with a serious illness.

0:36:060:36:09

But it has to be an illness that's on the insurer's list.

0:36:090:36:11

So typically it will be something like a heart attack,

0:36:110:36:14

cancer or a stroke.

0:36:140:36:16

Most of these insurance policies will cover around 30 illnesses

0:36:160:36:20

although some cover far more.

0:36:200:36:21

It's important to understand these policies won't normally automatically pay out

0:36:210:36:26

just because you've been diagnosed with a serious illness.

0:36:260:36:30

The policy small print will specify how severe the illness has to be

0:36:300:36:35

before you qualify for a payout.

0:36:350:36:37

For example, if you've had a heart attack,

0:36:370:36:39

some policies will specify the amount of heart muscle damage

0:36:390:36:43

that has to occur before your payout.

0:36:430:36:46

With some policies, you also get a payout if you are what's called

0:36:460:36:49

"permanently and totally disabled" and cannot work.

0:36:490:36:52

It's important to understand that here there's a difference as well.

0:36:520:36:56

Some will pay out if you're

0:36:560:36:58

permanently disabled and can't do your own job,

0:36:580:37:01

others will only pay out if you can't do any job.

0:37:010:37:04

It's really important when you take out a critical illness policy

0:37:060:37:09

that you're honest and upfront about your medical history.

0:37:090:37:13

Insurers generally won't cover you

0:37:130:37:15

for previous illnesses you've suffered from,

0:37:150:37:17

so you shouldn't just mention the big illnesses

0:37:170:37:19

but also the minor ones as well.

0:37:190:37:21

When you buy a critical illness insurance policy,

0:37:230:37:26

it's important not just to go for the cheapest one.

0:37:260:37:29

You have to look at the details in the small print

0:37:290:37:31

because they can make the difference between you getting a claim

0:37:310:37:34

and being rejected.

0:37:340:37:36

I'd really recommend you talk to a specialist broker.

0:37:360:37:40

Not only will they understand how different insurance policies work

0:37:400:37:43

and how the insurers pay out,

0:37:430:37:45

but if you have to make a claim, you're not going to be in a position

0:37:450:37:49

to fight against an insurer if you have to.

0:37:490:37:51

They'll help you fight your corner for you.

0:37:510:37:54

I'm joined now by the Director of General Insurance

0:37:570:37:59

at the Association of British Insurers

0:37:590:38:01

and that's Nick Starling.

0:38:010:38:03

What sort of checks do you do on your members

0:38:030:38:06

to ensure that when a customer is buying an insurance policy,

0:38:060:38:09

they are getting the right kind of information that they need?

0:38:090:38:13

We don't do individual checks with our insurers.

0:38:130:38:16

We couldn't do that but what we do is we write guidance.

0:38:160:38:18

In the case of critical illness, we have a code of practice

0:38:180:38:21

which all our members must as a condition of membership adhere to.

0:38:210:38:25

If our members don't abide by that, they'll take regulatory action

0:38:250:38:30

or the Ombudsman would decide in favour of the customer.

0:38:300:38:33

There have been situations

0:38:330:38:35

where people have taken out a critical illness policy

0:38:350:38:38

and been very honest on their application form

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and then developed an illness during the run of that particular policy.

0:38:400:38:45

Sometimes they're not treated with the same kind of fairness

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that they would expect.

0:38:490:38:51

What happens then?

0:38:510:38:52

When you take out a policy,

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it's usually some time before that policy is confirmed.

0:38:540:38:58

During that period, before you sign on the dotted line,

0:38:580:39:02

if you do develop something, you need to tell your insurer

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because that is important in terms of selling the policy.

0:39:050:39:09

If you develop it after you've signed?

0:39:090:39:11

If you develop it after you've signed

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then it's covered by the policy.

0:39:140:39:16

If you develop it very quickly after you've signed,

0:39:160:39:18

they may want to check to make sure everything is above board.

0:39:180:39:23

Essentially, once the insurance company is satisfied

0:39:230:39:27

you've made a proper application and you've taken out the policy,

0:39:270:39:31

then that policy is in effect.

0:39:310:39:32

Do you feel that these policies and the people who sell them

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are sufficiently consumer-friendly?

0:39:350:39:37

I think we made great strides in recent years

0:39:370:39:40

and they are extremely valuable policies to have.

0:39:400:39:42

We've done a number of things to make it easier for people.

0:39:420:39:47

We've focused the questions so it's much easier to answer,

0:39:470:39:50

easier for them to apply and therefore easier to claim.

0:39:500:39:53

And yet still our postbag is full of letters from people

0:39:530:39:56

who when they make claims on their insurance,

0:39:560:39:59

find something tucked away in the small print they didn't realise.

0:39:590:40:03

There's lots of reasons why claims might be turned down.

0:40:030:40:06

There are some, regrettably, which are fraudulent.

0:40:060:40:09

There are some where people are trying it on

0:40:090:40:12

even though it's not a valid basis for a claim.

0:40:120:40:15

There are some where genuine mistakes occur

0:40:150:40:17

and we want to iron them out.

0:40:170:40:18

I have to put to you something that was put to me

0:40:180:40:21

by one of our viewers who came to our pop-up shop in Manchester.

0:40:210:40:25

This man said to me,

0:40:250:40:27

"How on earth do some insurance assessors sleep at night?"

0:40:270:40:33

Everyone regrets it when a mistake happens

0:40:330:40:35

or when something goes wrong.

0:40:350:40:36

None of us want that to happen.

0:40:360:40:38

One mistake is a mistake too many.

0:40:380:40:40

We do want to make sure

0:40:400:40:42

that people are satisfied that they get products they want,

0:40:420:40:45

those products are delivered to them when they're at most need

0:40:450:40:48

and I hope that's something we can agree on.

0:40:480:40:51

-Nick, thank you very much.

-Thank you.

0:40:510:40:53

Here at Rip-Off Britain,

0:40:550:40:57

we're always ready to investigate more of your stories.

0:40:570:41:00

Confused over your bills?

0:41:000:41:02

Trying to wade through small print that leaves you totally confused?

0:41:020:41:06

I might have been stupid for not reading it

0:41:060:41:08

or I've read it and not took it in.

0:41:080:41:11

I could kick myself, I really could.

0:41:110:41:14

Unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out

0:41:140:41:16

and that great deal has ended up costing you money?

0:41:160:41:21

I thought, this cannot be true. It's totally unacceptable.

0:41:210:41:24

I was so angry.

0:41:240:41:26

You might have a cautionary tale of your own

0:41:260:41:28

and would be happy to share the mistakes you've made

0:41:280:41:31

so that others don't do the same.

0:41:310:41:33

No-one knows about this.

0:41:330:41:35

This is very strange to me

0:41:350:41:37

and I really would like to get this much clearer.

0:41:370:41:40

You can write to us at:

0:41:420:41:43

Or send us an e-mail to:

0:41:510:41:52

The Rip-Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories.

0:41:570:42:02

Well, as we've heard, although it can sometimes seem

0:42:030:42:06

as if insurance companies will try anything to avoid paying out,

0:42:060:42:09

it could be that you haven't got as comprehensive a policy as you thought.

0:42:090:42:14

When you're shopping around for the best cover,

0:42:140:42:16

I guess the advice is, don't just go for the cheapest,

0:42:160:42:20

make sure you've got the protection you really need

0:42:200:42:22

and analyse the small print

0:42:220:42:24

to make sure you're happy with what you're getting.

0:42:240:42:27

As usual, our website bbc.co.uk/ripoffbritain

0:42:270:42:32

will give you more advice if you're still confused.

0:42:320:42:36

We're out of time for today but thanks very much for joining us

0:42:360:42:39

and I hope we'll see you again soon.

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Until then, from all of us, goodbye.

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