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We asked you to tell us who's left you feeling ripped off. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
I think this is very, very, very wrong for what they have done. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:09 | |
The bank piles charges upon charges upon charges. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
Legally, it was right. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:14 | |
Morally, that's where the question and doubt comes in my view. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
And you contacted us in your thousands, | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
by post, e-mail, even stopping us in the streets. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:26 | |
And the message could not be clearer. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
You don't get a straight answer. They try and fob you off. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
-I'm not happy at all. -It's always that very small print | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
that's got the clause in you didn't realise. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
We're being ripped off big time. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
Whether it's a deliberate rip-off, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
a simple mistake or a catch in the small print, | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
we'll find out why you're out of pocket, and what you can do about it. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:48 | |
Keep asking the questions, go to the top if you have to. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
We do get results. I mean, that's the interesting thing. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
Your stories, your money - this is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
Hello, and welcome to Rip-Off Britain, | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
the programme that shines a light on the companies that you say | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
haven't given you the service you expected or that you'd paid for. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
But you know, sometimes, when you think you've had a raw deal, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
it can be those unexpected surprises in the small print | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
or those catches in the paperwork. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
And, believe me, there are plenty of those stories coming up today, | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
because we are taking on the mighty insurance industry. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
That's because hundreds of you have contacted us to tell us | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
that you really feel let down by insurance policies | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
that just haven't paid out, despite the fact | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
that you have faithfully handed over your premiums year after year. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
So are insurance companies treating you fairly | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
or have you perhaps misunderstood the terms | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
and, perhaps, not read the small print? | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
Well, we're going to find out. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:50 | |
Also coming up on today's show, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
just how ill do you have to be to claim on a critical illness policy? | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
You automatically think, if something happens, you know, you lose a limb, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:01 | |
you think you're covered and have peace of mind. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:04 | |
But I come to them for help, and they say no. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:09 | |
And more of your problems and dilemmas solved | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
at the Rip-Off Britain pop-up shop. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
It sounds, from what you told me, you've got a very clear-cut case here | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
and you should be paid out on your policy. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
Now, many of us in the UK are apparently more likely | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
to insure our pets, or indeed our mobile phones, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
than we are to take out cover on our own lives. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
According to an industry survey, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
56% of us don't have any sort of life insurance. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
Maybe we don't like to think of what will happen to us after we've gone, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
but Audrey Stone did. She wanted to think about it | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
and, for 20 years, she paid into a life insurance policy | 0:02:43 | 0:02:47 | |
to make sure that her family would be protected. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:50 | |
Unfortunately, there was a snag with her final payments and we all know | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
how insurance companies can be sticklers for their rules. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Stephen Stone thought that he was prepared for his mum dying. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
She'd been ill for a very long time. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
But she'd been determined to leave money behind for her family. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
My mum started work when she was 14. Worked at Basset's in Sheffield, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:18 | |
you may know for Liquorice Allsorts. That's what she used to make. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:22 | |
Then she went to work on the trams, so she's worked all her life | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
and, when we lost my dad, and that was 19 years ago, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
that's when she decided to take out life insurances. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
In 1989, Stephen's mum Audrey | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
took out two life insurance policies. One with Abbey Life. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
And she paid her monthly premiums on both policies for almost 20 years. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:49 | |
The payments started something around £20-odd, | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
increased over the years to £40. Over that period of time, | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
she's probably paid back something in the excess of £8,000. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:01 | |
But around five years ago, Audrey started to show signs of illness. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
She was in her mid-70s when we first noticed | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
that she had signs of dementia | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
and dementia follows generally a certain path. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
I was taking her on a regular basis to the hospital | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
to have health checks and to have mental health checks. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Did that with her for a considerable time. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
Then she started then getting worse and worse. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
With his mum's health deteriorating, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
Stephen turned to social services for help. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:35 | |
'We were unable to deal with all her needs 24/7 and it was good that | 0:04:35 | 0:04:41 | |
'we could then get a package put together by social services, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
'who did a very good job of getting carers in to see her four times a day | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
'to make sure she was taking the appropriate medication | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
'and she was eating and getting dressed.' | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
As part of the care package, social services appointed an organisation | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
to help Audrey handle her bank account and the payments from it. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:04 | |
This arrangement continued until, sadly, Audrey passed away. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:09 | |
'Losing my mum was a great blow to us. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
'She was the fifth of six sisters to go.' | 0:05:13 | 0:05:18 | |
All the others have died with forms of dementia. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
To add to Stephen's trauma, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
he received some unexpected financial news. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
Only one of Audrey's life insurance policies was going to pay out. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
'We went to our financial advisor, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
'who has been a family friend for many years. I was fully expecting | 0:05:34 | 0:05:39 | |
'to get then paid out for both of the insurance policies | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
'to help us towards the funeral costs, etc. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
'He just gave me a cheque. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
'I asked where the other one was from the other policy' | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
and he says, "Oh, that's lapsed," and that was the first time | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
we learned that the premiums had not been paid. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
Not been paid? | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
But Audrey had faithfully been doing that for years. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
So while Stephen had expected the policy to now be worth £17,000, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:09 | |
according to Abbey Life, he wouldn't see a penny. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
I think my mother's reaction to the policy not being paid out | 0:06:12 | 0:06:17 | |
would've been horrific. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
It was one thing that she always said whenever I went up to visit | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
that, "There's no worries when I go, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
"You'll have this, you'll have that, you can do this, you can do that." | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
Stephen discovered that, towards the end of Audrey's life, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
the organisation appointed by social services to manage her bank account | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
had been trying to pay the premiums on her behalf, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
but Abbey Life had refused to accept payments from the third party, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
even though it was all official, and Audrey was too ill to do it herself. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
So, after 19 years of never missing a payment, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:54 | |
Audrey's policy was now worthless. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
My initial thoughts at Abbey Life refusing to pay it | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
was that was an absolute disgrace, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
that an insurance company who'd been accepting payments | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
for nearly 20 years on a premium and never missed a date, | 0:07:07 | 0:07:11 | |
would suddenly decide, after a couple of premiums missed, | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
that it was fair enough for them to just lapse that policy. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
Abbey Life told us that, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
although they sympathise with Stephen over the loss of his mother, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:24 | |
all too often they see attempted identity thefts, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
so they need to protect policyholders | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
and especially those in a vulnerable position. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
They say they were never shown the necessary valid authority | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
to prove that a third party was acting on Audrey's behalf and that, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
ultimately, all insurance policies lapse if the premiums are not paid. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
But when Abbey Life wouldn't budge, | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
Stephen took his case to the Financial Ombudsman Service. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
In September, they ruled in his favour, saying that the company | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
should've taken a more understanding and consumer-friendly approach. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
They said it was clear what Audrey's intentions had been | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
and, as a result, ordered the company to pay out, which, thankfully, they've now done. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:07 | |
But Stephen feels that they should have done that in the first place. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
I think it's grossly unfair that they should refuse to pay out | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
on a policy that has been in place for so many years, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:19 | |
when this person then becomes the subject of mental health problems. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:25 | |
If you feel you've been short-changed by a company | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
that you put your faith in, then do let us know. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
We'll have all the contact details later in the programme. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
Next today, though, a rip-off viewer who got in touch | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
after an experience that left them feeling bitterly let down. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
So we decided to investigate. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
For Yannick, a decision to move into a rented flat in Crystal Palace | 0:08:46 | 0:08:51 | |
was one he and his wife would live to regret. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
I started looking for a flat in July 2010. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
Me and my wife had moved from Portugal and were desperate to find somewhere, as I'd started a job. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:02 | |
'We were looking in South East London predominately, | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
'close to where I was working. | 0:09:05 | 0:09:06 | |
'And, eventually, we found somewhere to live and it was £500 a month, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
'so we thought it was quite reasonable for the area.' | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
All bills included. So I made a commitment and signed a contract. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
But before too long, Yannick and his wife Fatima wished they had | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
taken a closer look at the property before signing on the dotted line. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
After a few days, I realised things weren't all as they seem. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
'I noticed that the walls had mould on, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
'I noticed the carpet was in a bad condition. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
'I realised, obviously, I'd made a mistake. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
'It was a shock for my wife as she'd moved to England for the first time.' | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
She couldn't believe we were paying £500 to live in conditions like that. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
After eight months, they'd had enough and decided it was time to move out. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:52 | |
After requesting the deposit, | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
we received an invoice from the landlady requesting £468. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:59 | |
This was for repairs to the property, including replacing the carpet, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
replacing the toilet seat, cleaning the curtains, this kind of thing. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:08 | |
I couldn't believe she was claiming we had broken and damaged all these things in the studio. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:13 | |
I was really shocked and there was no way I was going to pay for that. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
Disputes between tenants and landlords are not uncommon, | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
which is where the Deposit Protection Scheme comes into play. | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
It is authorised by the government and is designed to arbitrate | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
in cases where agreement can't otherwise be reached. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
I'd asked if she'd registered with the Deposit Protection Scheme, | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
as she was obliged to under the terms of the contract. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
After a week of chasing the landlady to get an answer to my question, | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
the landlady told me that she hadn't registered the deposit as she felt she didn't need to. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
I told her that, under law, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
she was actually obliged to register the deposit and I asked her to do so, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
otherwise I would take legal action against her. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
Yannick was right. Landlords with Assured Shorthold Tenancy agreements | 0:10:54 | 0:10:59 | |
in England and Wales have an obligation to lodge deposits | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
with protection schemes within 14 days of receiving the money. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
Yannick's landlords did eventually do this, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
a full eight months too late. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
The DPS was then faced with two very different versions of events. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
'Me and my wife put in a claim for the full £500 deposit | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
'and the landlady put in her claim.' | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
So, basically, that's just led to a stalemate with counterclaims. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:26 | |
The landlady sent through her evidence as to why | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
she believed that we caused the damage and then I sent | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
a counterclaim detailing why I felt that her evidence was not accurate. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:38 | |
We asked Yannick's landlords to comment. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
They told us that there are two sides to every story. They claim, | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
when the couple moved in, they signed an independent report | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
stating that the condition of the property was fine. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
The landlords also told us that they'd initially been advised that, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
because the flat was part of their home, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
it didn't need to be registered with the Deposit Protection Scheme. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
Campbell Robb from the campaign group Shelter believes that | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
some tenants don't do enough to protect themselves | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
and this can lead to all sorts of problems. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
If you're thinking about renting a flat, get some advice. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
Don't just do this alone. Come to Shelter, go to the Citizens' Advice, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
there's loads of stuff available. One of the key things | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
that anybody needs to do if they're taking a private rented property is | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
make sure that their deposit is safe. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
The government has a scheme which ensures that landlords | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
put your deposit somewhere safe, so you get it back at the end of that. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
So make sure your landlord is part of the Tenancy Deposit Scheme. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
It's a key way of protecting your money while it's with the landlord. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
In this couple's case, this protection meant they eventually | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
got the majority of their money back. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
And Yannick says that, in future, | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
he'll be much more cautious before agreeing to sign anything. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
If I had my time again, I wouldn't be as naive as I had been | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
and I would really check everything first and make sure that | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
I was entering a legitimate contract and that all parties can be trusted. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:04 | |
Now, there can't be too many things worse than that sickening feeling | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
when you realise that you haven't actually got | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
what you thought you would be getting for your money. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
But that's exactly what happened to this next Rip-Off viewer | 0:13:14 | 0:13:18 | |
and we were absolutely determined to get them some answers. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
Meet Graham Burt, a bus driver from Bury. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
He lives with his partner Rachel and their four children | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
and, generally, he has his hands full. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
Every day needs careful planning. So when the Burts' car broke down, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
they knew they had no option but to get a replacement and fast. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
We only had two days to find the car. We had to have it by Monday | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
because Rachel wouldn't be able to take the kids to school | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
then get to work on time in the centre of Manchester. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
I was working as well, so I had to take my car to work | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
because I had no public transport either to my work. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
So it was very important to get the car. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
It wasn't long before Graham found a card he liked on a car supermarket website. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:04 | |
He headed down to Carcraft's Rochdale showroom to take a look. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
It didn't have the car I wanted. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
They only had the three-door Mitsubishi Colt or an automatic | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
and I said I needed a five-door manual, because of the children. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
I need to get them in and out of the car. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
And he said, "We'll have a look on the computer, see if there's any in stock," | 0:14:18 | 0:14:22 | |
and he said, "Yes, there's one in Leeds. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
"We can get it driven up for you and you can pick it up tomorrow." I said, "That's perfect." | 0:14:24 | 0:14:28 | |
The following night, the car arrived. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
It was dark, but Graham gave it a quick once-over and agreed to buy it. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
It was priced at around £7,900. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
All he needed now was a finance plan to pay for that. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
I have dyslexia and I'm very slow at reading, | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
so it takes me a while to read through things. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
There was that much documentation, I would've been a while, | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
so I asked the salesman and he said, "This is your finance agreement. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
"Your APR's this over five years, and just sign at the bottom." | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
He put wee crosses and I had to sign there and, the next page, sign that. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
Dotted line signed, Graham drove off. But almost immediately, he began having problems. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:11 | |
As I was driving home, I noticed the car was pulling to the left. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
If you took your hands off the steering wheel slightly or took pressure off, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
the car would veer to the left, towards the kerb. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
I was like, "Oh, that's a bit strange." | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
The car was used for the children to go to school in, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
so from a safety point of view, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
I didn't feel it was safe to drive the vehicle with the children in it with that fault. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:33 | |
Putting safety first, Graham headed back to Carcraft the following day. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:39 | |
Their mechanics said the steering fault was to do with the tracking. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
While they were checking the tracking, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:44 | |
they noticed one of the tyres was completely bald almost. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
They said the cogs were showing so they had to replace it that day. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
They told me to come back the next week to get the tracking repaired. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
Graham's confidence in Carcraft was beginning to waiver. | 0:15:55 | 0:16:00 | |
He couldn't understand how the Mitsubishi had been approved for sale when it had problems. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
There was big banners as you drive in - 120 point check, two year free warranty, parts and labour, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:10 | |
and it all looks though it's all sold round this check and everything, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
so you expect the car to be perfect, cos the salesman told me the car had a big check on it. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
It's been checked out, serviced, everything. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
Graham claims the car was repeatedly in and out of the garage as Carcraft tried to fix the steering. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:28 | |
And as if that wasn't enough, when the finance agreement kicked in, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
he got another nasty shock. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
I realised I had two loans coming out of the bank, totalling £232 a month. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:38 | |
I was quite shocked because I was expecting the car to cost just under £200 a month. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:45 | |
So it was an extra £36 nearly I'm paying a month which I was expecting. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
It turns out the loans are to two different companies. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
The first thought the car was overvalued and so would only loan Graham £5,800. | 0:16:54 | 0:17:01 | |
The shortfall, just under two grand, came from the second firm. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
And the extra £36 a month that Graham's being charged for? | 0:17:05 | 0:17:10 | |
Well, that's for an extended four year warranty, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
something Graham can't remember agreeing to. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
We asked Carcraft to comment on Graham's claims, | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
and they told us they were sorry for the problems he'd encountered. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
They said, "All our cars undergo a standard 120 point inspection." | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
"There is always the risk of unforeseen issues, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
"but we believe we have a fair approach to resolving these." | 0:17:30 | 0:17:34 | |
Carcraft admitted to us that this hasn't always been the case, saying, | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
"We're genuinely sorry that in the past some customers didn't receive the levels of service we now offer." | 0:17:38 | 0:17:44 | |
As for the paperwork, they told us that it's always fully explained to customers | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
with time allowed for reading and questions. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
In addition to this, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:53 | |
"Each document signed clearly states the monthly repayments." | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
Graham may not remember signing up for the additional warranty, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
but his signature is on the paperwork, so he has to pay. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
Problems on both sides in this story. But one thing's for sure, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:12 | |
Graham has definitely learned one of life's most valuable lessons: | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
act in haste, repent at leisure. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
If you've had a similar experience and aren't sure what to do next, don't worry. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
We've done some of the hard work for you. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
Here are the key things you need to bear in mind. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
If you buy a new car, it's going to come with an extended warranty, perhaps lasting three years or more. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:37 | |
If you buy a second-hand car, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
it is possible that things are going to go wrong with that vehicle. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
You may be entitled to have those things repaired, | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
but it might be difficult for you to negotiate those repairs with the dealer. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:51 | |
Your rights when buying from a second-hand car dealer are covered by the Sale of Goods Act. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
That says that good must be of a satisfactory quality, that is, they must be free from faults. | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
In addition to that they must be as described | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
and they must be fit for the purpose for which you buy them. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
That is, you must be capable of driving it and driving it safely. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
You have to act quickly and you're pretty limited on why you can reject a car. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:16 | |
There will have to be some serious defect with that car, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
such as the engine blowing up, or a major fault that isn't readily fixed. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:23 | |
So, it's what's reasonably expected. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
If a salesman's misled you about a second-hand car, you've got two options, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
the first being you can reject that car and get your money back. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
Alternatively, you could negotiate a reduction in the price on that vehicle that you're happy with | 0:19:33 | 0:19:38 | |
and continue with the purchase. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
If you bought a car on finance, that provides you with additional protection, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
because it makes the finance company equally liable for anything that goes wrong with that vehicle | 0:19:44 | 0:19:50 | |
as well as the dealership. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:51 | |
So if something happens to that car dealer, then you can make a claim against the finance company. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:57 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain: | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
Caught out by the small print on your insurance policy? | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
Martin Wells is familiar with that feeling. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
MARTIN: It says you can't pay out unless you have two limbs amputated. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
I just sat there... "You are joking, aren't you?" | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
He says, "No." | 0:20:15 | 0:20:16 | |
Our experts have been rushed off their feet at our pop-up shop for consumer advice. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:24 | |
You can take the claims through the Financial Ombudsman Service yourself. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
Persevere and I think you've got a good chance of getting a pay-out. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
So many of you contacted us, telling us about your stories, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
that we decided to open up our own pop-up shop | 0:20:39 | 0:20:43 | |
so that we could meet you face-to-face to tackle your issues. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
Here in Manchester, one subject that seems to be the source of many problems for people is insurance. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:53 | |
So let's find out more. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
-Hiya! -Hiya. -What's your name? -My name's Dawn. -Dawn. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:03 | |
So what are you here for today? | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
I had a heart attack in January | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
and I bought some critical illness insurance about ten years ago. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
To cut a long story short, I'm having difficulty with them to pay out. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
Time to see if Dawn can be helped by James Daly from Which? | 0:21:17 | 0:21:22 | |
They're actually saying to me that I don't have a claim, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
that I haven't suffered a heart attack. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
I've been told by my consultant, by my cardio nurse, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:32 | |
by quite a few people that I've actually had a heart attack. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
In fact, I'm on five lots of medication, | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
and I've spoken to the insurance company and told them what the consultant has said, | 0:21:38 | 0:21:43 | |
and they've told me that for future insurance I would have to inform them that I've had a heart attack. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:50 | |
In one hand they're telling me I've not had a heart attack | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
and on the other they're telling me I've got to inform them that I've had a heart attack. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:59 | |
We've gone in to appeal and we've got a final letter from them stating, | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
"No, no way. You haven't got a claim." | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
It's just a big full stop on it. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
There's a good chance you will get your claim paid out here. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
But you will need to persevere. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
Ultimately, when it comes to whether you had a heart attack or not, | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
hopefully, that's something that the doctors can verify. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
It seems very odd to me they'd be trying to deny it, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
but at the same time saying you need to declare it | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
for future policies which doesn't make any sense. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
The next step is to take the case | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
on to the Financial Ombudsman Service. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
That's an independent service. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
They're looking out for your rights and trying to look at the case cold, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
no preference either side and see who's right and who's wrong here. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
It sounds from what you've told me that you've got | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
a very clear cut case here | 0:22:48 | 0:22:49 | |
and you should be paid out on your policy. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
If you put in your claim to them today, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
and you can do that online. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
Go to their website. File your claim. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
It's not that difficult to take the claim | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
through the Financial Ombudsman Service yourself. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
It might take a bit of time, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
persevere and you have a good chance of getting a payout. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
Good advice, but there is more advice on our website. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:15 | |
And you will be pleased to know | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
Dawn's case is currently being investigated further, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
so we really wish her well. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
Opening up our pop-up shop here in Manchester | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
has been a great opportunity for us | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
to investigate your rip-offs face to face. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
£600, that will buy you a few Christmas presents, won't it? | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
It certainly will. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:37 | |
It's been so nice to actually get to meet you | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
and to hear what you've got to say directly. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
It went really well, I managed to save £271. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
Five minutes of your time online | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
and I can afford to go on holiday now. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
I feel a lot easier, I feel a lot happier. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
The advice I have been given is very sound, very sensible. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
It was definitely worth coming down today. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
Got some useful information, so we're going to go home | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
and put that advice to action. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
Here's someone else with a problem. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
And they are not at all happy about it. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:11 | |
In October 2007, Sally Murray and her husband-to-be Matthew | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
were looking for a place to rent in Lancashire. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
We found a property in a little village called Summerseat | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
which we thought was an ideal place to start off, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
our first home together, renting together. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
When we initially went to view the property | 0:24:30 | 0:24:32 | |
the landlord was living there. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
There was furniture in there, there were things in cupboards | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
and it all looked like a normal house. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
It looked like a homely home. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
After deciding it was just what they wanted, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
the couple agreed terms and paid a month's rent up front. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
As well as the same amount again as a deposit. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
In total, £1,350. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
But it wasn't long before Sally was telling her father Alan | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
that the home of their dreams was turning into a nightmare. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
Shortly after getting the keys and moving in my belongings, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
we went on holiday. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:09 | |
Then my boyfriend came out in all bites over his legs. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
We didn't really know where it had come from at that stage. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
We got back from holiday and went to the house again | 0:25:17 | 0:25:20 | |
and these bites had cleared up almost | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
and he got some fresh bites on his legs. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
And we went another evening | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
and he got some more bites and I got a few bites. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
Then we sort of thought, this is a coincidence. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
We had a look in the Hoover | 0:25:33 | 0:25:34 | |
and that's when I found the fleas jumping around in the cylinder. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
Once we found the fleas, that was the final straw, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:42 | |
we couldn't move into a house that had fleas. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
Even though we said we wanted it fumigating, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:48 | |
we just couldn't be happy there. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
So Sally got in touch with the landlord. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
We met him at the property with my parents | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
and he agreed to give me my deposit back | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
once I gave him the key which I did. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
I gave him my bank details and he was to put the money into my account. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
When the money didn't materialise, | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
Sally's dad Alan, a retired policeman, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
took up the fight on her behalf. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
He was supposed to be electronically moving the cash, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
didn't move anything. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
She tried texting, e-mailing, ringing and got absolutely nothing. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
Annoyed that her money had not been returned, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
Sally and dad Alan decided to take legal action. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:29 | |
I actually had to interview him myself and sit next to him in court | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
and ask him questions about his finances. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
They made a claim to the county court and the judge ordered the landlord | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
to pay them the money back plus penalties totalling £4,088. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:46 | |
But the landlord claimed poverty. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
And Sally has never received a penny. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
I'm now out of pocket £1,350 which is £675 for the deposit | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
and £675 rent and I feel totally ripped off | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
because I've not stayed one night in the property. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
He hasn't given us a proper response, but when Rip-Off Britain | 0:27:03 | 0:27:08 | |
spoke to him on the phone, | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
the landlord claimed there were no fleas, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
and he hadn't promised Sally her money back. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
Although, of course, the court judgment tells a different tale. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:20 | |
In any case, Alan feels Sally's money should have been protected | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
by the Government's tenancy deposit scheme. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
The purpose of the tenancy deposit scheme | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
was to make sure tenants weren't ripped off by avaricious landlords. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:34 | |
And to a great extent it's probably working. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
However it seems to me there is no real check | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
to see that landlords are doing what they should be doing. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
Four years after it all began, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
Sally now accepts that she will probably never get her money back. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
I feel totally annoyed with the whole situation, | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
that I'm owed the money, I need the money. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
I could be spending it on my baby, I could be spending it on my house, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
I could be spending it on myself, my husband now. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
And he's walking around, and to be honest, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
I feel like he's laughing at me now. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
He's walked away with my money, it's as easy as that. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
He's ripped me off and there's nobody there | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
to stop him from doing it. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
At a time when money is tighter than ever, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
you need to know that your cash is working hard for you, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
avoiding rip-offs and sharp practice along the way. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
We've put together a booklet of tips and advice | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
to help safeguard your hard-earned cash. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
You can find a link to the free guide on our website. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:37 | |
Or to receive a copy in the post, send an A5 self-addressed envelope | 0:28:40 | 0:28:45 | |
to the address we will give you at the end of the programmes. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
One type of insurance that all too often | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
proves controversial is critical illness. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
Around 9 million of us have it, usually in the belief that | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
if we do become seriously ill, our bills and expenses will be covered. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
Unfortunately, for a lot of us that won't be the case. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
Many critical illness policies are quite limited | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
in their scope, only paying out in very specific circumstances. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
Just how specific those circumstances need to be | 0:29:15 | 0:29:19 | |
can often come as quite a shock as Martin Wells discovered. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:24 | |
Martin Wells is a bus driver | 0:29:27 | 0:29:29 | |
and has worked hard all of his life to support his family. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:33 | |
I was the main provider, I used to bring home a reasonable wage. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:38 | |
My wife worked part-time, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
but unfortunately she had to finish work as well for medical reasons. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:45 | |
Worried about how they would cope if he was ever too ill to work, | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
Martin took out a critical illness insurance policy | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
with Scottish Widows. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:52 | |
It was taken out to pay the mortgage off so the family didn't have to worry, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:58 | |
they would have a roof over their heads and somewhere to live. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:02 | |
-Not long now. -Yes. -Skeggy stadium. -Awesome. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:07 | |
'It wasn't cheap, it was one of the more expensive policies I've got' | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
as opposed to life insurance. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
But I was willing to pay it, again, for peace of mind. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
And he did get peace of mind, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
expecting if he ever had to stop work because of critical-illness | 0:30:23 | 0:30:27 | |
the policy would pay out half a million pounds. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
12 years on, when an old motorbike injury began to deteriorate, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
he found he was struggling to do his job. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
I couldn't walk more than about four or five steps | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
without it really...really hurting. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:45 | |
I was hobbling around, still driving, still working, | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
trying to keep going as long as I could | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
and I just got to the end of the pain I could take, basically. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:58 | |
Martin retired from driving buses on the grounds of ill-health, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
but his leg continued to get worse with many ulcers and infections. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:07 | |
Eventually his doctors told him that the only solution | 0:31:07 | 0:31:11 | |
was, unfortunately, amputation. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
The fact I was going to have my leg amputated... | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
..I knew it was going to cause a few problems. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
But it was the only course of action I had got left open to me. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:28 | |
I couldn't go on for ever with the infections. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:32 | |
Once he had recovered from the operation, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
Martin planned to make a claim on his critical illness insurance | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
assuming that losing a limb was the kind of event the policy covered him for. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
But when he called Scottish Widows he got a huge shock. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:49 | |
They said, "Well, I'm sorry to tell you, | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
"but the fact you're only having one leg amputated, we can't pay out. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
I sort of sat there somewhat stunned. "I beg your pardon." | 0:31:55 | 0:32:01 | |
He says, "We can't pay out unless you have two limbs amputated at the same time." | 0:32:01 | 0:32:07 | |
I just sat there... "You are joking, aren't you?" He says, "No." | 0:32:08 | 0:32:13 | |
He said, "That's our policy, | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
"you have to have two limbs amputated before we'll pay out." | 0:32:17 | 0:32:23 | |
Although it seemed unfair to Martin, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
a close look at Scottish Widows critical illness policy | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
shows that what he was told is correct. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
The policy covers, to quote, "permanent physical severance | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
"of any combination of two or more hands or feet." | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
That apparently is pretty standard in the industry, | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
but for Martin the news was devastating. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
I don't need it, I've enough on my plate now. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
I'm in a wheelchair. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
It's difficult. It's very, very difficult. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
Plus I've also got the pressure of, is everything being paid? | 0:32:55 | 0:33:00 | |
Martin is waiting to see if he's suitable for a prosthetic leg. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
If he gets one, he is hoping to return to the bus depot | 0:33:03 | 0:33:08 | |
and drive buses again part time. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
-Hello, Martin. -Hi, Alan. How are you, mate? All right? | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
But for now things are really tough. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
Money for us at the moment is extremely tight. | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
We have to be very, very careful. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
I mean, if we need new things, like we have to replace anything, | 0:33:26 | 0:33:32 | |
we have to sort of juggle things around to afford it. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:38 | |
And it's...it's a strain, to be perfectly honest. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:46 | |
Martin's story is similar to ones that Emma Parker | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
from the Financial Ombudsman Service has heard many times before. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:55 | |
Last year alone, they received 598 complaints | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
about critical illness policies not paying out. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
But the majority were not upheld because insurance of this type | 0:34:02 | 0:34:08 | |
is usually much more limited than people realise. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
Critical illness is a policy that covers you for certain named illnesses | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
and they are carefully defined within the policy. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
The Association of British Insurers has been doing work with insurers | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
and have published information about how they expect insurers | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
to define conditions under critical illness policies. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
It is the insurers' responsibility to make sure that information | 0:34:27 | 0:34:30 | |
is there and clearly in line with the ABI standards. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:35 | |
Scottish Widows told us that they always look for ways | 0:34:35 | 0:34:39 | |
to see how a claim can be paid and in this case, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
even in the absence of a formal claim, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
they did investigate whether Martin might be covered | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
under any other definition of the policy, but he wasn't. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
They point out that since 2000, they have paid out well over | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
£1 billion in life and critical illness claims. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
They have helped over 30,000 families and that all customers | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
get an annual benefits statement | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
setting out the cover that they have. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
So it is worth checking the small print to avoid | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
discovering too late as Martin did, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:16 | |
that your premiums haven't given you quite the protection you think. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
You automatically think, if something happens, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
you lose a limb or you have a heart attack, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:27 | |
you have to have open-heart surgery, you think you're covered. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:31 | |
You have got peace of mind. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:34 | |
But I come to them for help and they say no. | 0:35:34 | 0:35:40 | |
Well, Martin's insurers aren't budging | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
and however sympathetic you may be to his situation, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:47 | |
technically there is no reason why they should. | 0:35:47 | 0:35:49 | |
As they say, they are following the standard industry guidelines. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
It just goes to show how vital it is that you understand the terms | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
and exclusions, of not just critical illness, | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
but any form of life insurance. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
Critical illness insurance is designed to pay out a lump sum | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
if you are diagnosed with a serious illness. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
But it has to be an illness that's on the insurer's list. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
So typically it will be something like a heart attack, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
cancer or a stroke. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
Most of these insurance policies will cover around 30 illnesses | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
although some cover far more. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:21 | |
It's important to understand these policies won't normally automatically pay out | 0:36:21 | 0:36:26 | |
just because you've been diagnosed with a serious illness. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
The policy small print will specify how severe the illness has to be | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
before you qualify for a payout. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
For example, if you've had a heart attack, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
some policies will specify the amount of heart muscle damage | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
that has to occur before your payout. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
With some policies, you also get a payout if you are what's called | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
"permanently and totally disabled" and cannot work. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:52 | |
It's important to understand that here there's a difference as well. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
Some will pay out if you're | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
permanently disabled and can't do your own job, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
others will only pay out if you can't do any job. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
It's really important when you take out a critical illness policy | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
that you're honest and upfront about your medical history. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
Insurers generally won't cover you | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
for previous illnesses you've suffered from, | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
so you shouldn't just mention the big illnesses | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
but also the minor ones as well. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
When you buy a critical illness insurance policy, | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
it's important not just to go for the cheapest one. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
You have to look at the details in the small print | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
because they can make the difference between you getting a claim | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
and being rejected. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:36 | |
I'd really recommend you talk to a specialist broker. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
Not only will they understand how different insurance policies work | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
and how the insurers pay out, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
but if you have to make a claim, you're not going to be in a position | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
to fight against an insurer if you have to. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
They'll help you fight your corner for you. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
I'm joined now by the Director of General Insurance | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
at the Association of British Insurers | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
and that's Nick Starling. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
What sort of checks do you do on your members | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
to ensure that when a customer is buying an insurance policy, | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
they are getting the right kind of information that they need? | 0:38:09 | 0:38:13 | |
We don't do individual checks with our insurers. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:16 | |
We couldn't do that but what we do is we write guidance. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:18 | |
In the case of critical illness, we have a code of practice | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
which all our members must as a condition of membership adhere to. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:25 | |
If our members don't abide by that, they'll take regulatory action | 0:38:25 | 0:38:30 | |
or the Ombudsman would decide in favour of the customer. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
There have been situations | 0:38:33 | 0:38:35 | |
where people have taken out a critical illness policy | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
and been very honest on their application form | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
and then developed an illness during the run of that particular policy. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
Sometimes they're not treated with the same kind of fairness | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
that they would expect. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
What happens then? | 0:38:51 | 0:38:52 | |
When you take out a policy, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:54 | |
it's usually some time before that policy is confirmed. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
During that period, before you sign on the dotted line, | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
if you do develop something, you need to tell your insurer | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
because that is important in terms of selling the policy. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:09 | |
If you develop it after you've signed? | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
If you develop it after you've signed | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
then it's covered by the policy. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
If you develop it very quickly after you've signed, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
they may want to check to make sure everything is above board. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
Essentially, once the insurance company is satisfied | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
you've made a proper application and you've taken out the policy, | 0:39:27 | 0:39:31 | |
then that policy is in effect. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:32 | |
Do you feel that these policies and the people who sell them | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
are sufficiently consumer-friendly? | 0:39:35 | 0:39:37 | |
I think we made great strides in recent years | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
and they are extremely valuable policies to have. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
We've done a number of things to make it easier for people. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:47 | |
We've focused the questions so it's much easier to answer, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
easier for them to apply and therefore easier to claim. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
And yet still our postbag is full of letters from people | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
who when they make claims on their insurance, | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
find something tucked away in the small print they didn't realise. | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
There's lots of reasons why claims might be turned down. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
There are some, regrettably, which are fraudulent. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
There are some where people are trying it on | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
even though it's not a valid basis for a claim. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
There are some where genuine mistakes occur | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
and we want to iron them out. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:18 | |
I have to put to you something that was put to me | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
by one of our viewers who came to our pop-up shop in Manchester. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
This man said to me, | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
"How on earth do some insurance assessors sleep at night?" | 0:40:27 | 0:40:33 | |
Everyone regrets it when a mistake happens | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
or when something goes wrong. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:36 | |
None of us want that to happen. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
One mistake is a mistake too many. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
We do want to make sure | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
that people are satisfied that they get products they want, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
those products are delivered to them when they're at most need | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
and I hope that's something we can agree on. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
-Nick, thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
Here at Rip-Off Britain, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:57 | |
we're always ready to investigate more of your stories. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
Confused over your bills? | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
Trying to wade through small print that leaves you totally confused? | 0:41:02 | 0:41:06 | |
I might have been stupid for not reading it | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
or I've read it and not took it in. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
I could kick myself, I really could. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
Unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
and that great deal has ended up costing you money? | 0:41:16 | 0:41:21 | |
I thought, this cannot be true. It's totally unacceptable. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
I was so angry. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
You might have a cautionary tale of your own | 0:41:26 | 0:41:28 | |
and would be happy to share the mistakes you've made | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
so that others don't do the same. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:33 | |
No-one knows about this. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
This is very strange to me | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
and I really would like to get this much clearer. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
You can write to us at: | 0:41:42 | 0:41:43 | |
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The Rip-Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:02 | |
Well, as we've heard, although it can sometimes seem | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
as if insurance companies will try anything to avoid paying out, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
it could be that you haven't got as comprehensive a policy as you thought. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:14 | |
When you're shopping around for the best cover, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
I guess the advice is, don't just go for the cheapest, | 0:42:16 | 0:42:20 | |
make sure you've got the protection you really need | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
and analyse the small print | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
to make sure you're happy with what you're getting. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
As usual, our website bbc.co.uk/ripoffbritain | 0:42:27 | 0:42:32 | |
will give you more advice if you're still confused. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
We're out of time for today but thanks very much for joining us | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
and I hope we'll see you again soon. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
Until then, from all of us, goodbye. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 |