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We asked you to tell us who's left you feeling ripped off.

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I think this is very, very wrong for what they have done.

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The bank piles charges upon charges upon charges...

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Legally, it was right. Morally, that's where the question and doubt comes, in my view.

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And you've contacted us in your thousands,

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by post, e-mail, even stopping us in the street.

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And the message could not be clearer.

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I doubt we'd get a straight answer, they'd just try and fob you off.

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I'm not happy with them.

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There's always that very small print that's got the clause in that you didn't realise.

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We're being ripped off big time.

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Whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake or a catch in the small print,

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we'll find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do about it.

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Keep asking the questions, you know, go to the top if you have to.

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We do get results, that's the interesting thing.

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Your stories, your money!

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This is Rip-Off Britain.

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Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain,

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where amongst the topics we'll be tackling today is something that thousands of you

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have told us is right up there with your biggest bugbears.

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-It's known as small print.

-Oh, yes.

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When you feel ripped off, all too often it's actually the devil in the detail that's caught you out.

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In fact, the Office of Fair Trading has said that the overwhelming majority of their workload

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-is dealing with people's confusion over...

-Small print!

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Well, in fact, we're probably all guilty sometimes of not reading through those terms and conditions,

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so today we'll hear about what can happen if you don't know exactly what you're getting into

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when you sign on the dotted line,

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and offer some tips on how to stop the same thing happening to you.

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Also coming up on today's programme,

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the devastating consequences when a catch in the small print means your terminal-illness policy

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just won't pay out.

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I will fight them to the end, to the end, for my money that I've paid in.

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There's some fabulous advice on offer at Rip-Off Britain's Pop-Up Shop.

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The Office of Fair Trading have been looking into a lot of these competition companies,

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particularly prize-draw companies,

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and looking at their small print to see if the small print is fair

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and to see if they're omitting any information that they should give to consumers.

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If you've stayed with the same telephone company for years,

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it usually means that you're pretty happy with the service they provide,

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and you'd hope that they'd be delighted that you'd stuck with them as well.

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So if they are, does that mean they should let you know if you're paying them more than you need to?

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Well, here's a man who thinks that his loyalty has definitely not been returned.

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If you've had any of these BT telephones over the last few years,

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it's probably because you bought a new one or had an upgrade.

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That's a nice one of Charlotte and Chloe.

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John and Alice Darrell have a much more traditional phone,

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which they've been using for 17 years.

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In that time it's brought them some very good news.

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I have six grandchildren. I look forward to using the phone.

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The phone is most important for my son Russell in Thailand

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because it's the only way of communicating,

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and it's nice to hear from him from such a long way away.

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Hello, John. How are you?

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John is a retired betting-shop manager. He'd been with BT as long as it's been in existence,

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and he's been happy with his phone and line-rental package.

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But he contacted Rip-Off Britain about an unwelcome charge

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his faithful old phone has been adding to his bill,

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which he only fully appreciated after being offered a cheaper deal by a big utility company.

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And I found I can get it cheaper from them than I could from BT.

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I asked them also do I have to get a phone from them and they said no.

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John realised he's been paying BT money he simply didn't need to.

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He'd been paying BT £3 a quarter to rent the actual phone. That's £12 a year.

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He was fully aware of the charge, but assumed he had no choice but to pay it,

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and he certainly hadn't realised that he could avoid it by just buying a telephone himself.

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Nobody ever told me I could have changed my phone over.

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I always thought that this phone from BT was a prerequisite of using their landlines.

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That's why I never queried paying the fee.

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This is John and Alice's phone, the Relate 100.

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You can't buy them these days, but an equivalent model costs about £6.

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Over the years, John and Alice have paid more than £200 to rent theirs.

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For £200, I expect top of the range which does everything,

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even makes the tea for me. £200 is a lot of money,

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cos we can't afford £200, not to throw away.

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We didn't know how cheap the phones were, did we?

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Flicking through the phone section of a retail catalogue, John and Alice were flabbergasted

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to discover what £200 could buy them now.

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£6! Cor! That's cheap, that!

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We could have had 32 of those for what we paid BT!

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- 32... - 32 phones...

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It was clear on John's BT bills that he's been paying to rent his phone,

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but he thinks that phone providers should let customers know that there are alternatives to renting,

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especially if, like him, they've been a really loyal customer for years.

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I, myself, think that all companies do the best for everybody that uses their system,

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and that's why I never queried BT in the first place.

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How are the dogs getting on, Carol?

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BT has said that John and Alice can keep the phone they've been renting,

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and after their complaint about how much it's cost them,

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they were offered £15 as a gesture of goodwill,

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but they've turned that down and have now been in touch with the Ombudsman.

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I would never have known that I would be able to get a phone on my own,

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and I would still have been paying £3 a quarter to BT for the rest of my life.

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But BT told Rip-Off Britain that they were...

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They say...

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..because it offers more choice, regular upgrades and benefits,

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such as...

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..if the phone becomes faulty.

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They also stress that they explain

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to everyone who becomes a BT customer that they...

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..and that they've done that for the last 30 years.

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But maybe that's the point.

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John never switched to BT, and he maintains that in all the years he was with them

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nobody flagged up that choice.

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In the meantime, although Alice would appreciate a cordless phone...

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John! Phone!

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..which of course would make things easier for John who's hard of hearing,

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they're going to take BT up on their offer to keep the tried and tested phone they've been renting.

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I don't want a phone that lights up and tells me who's calling.

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All I want is to be able to answer my phone, take a message, speak to my grandchildren,

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and that's all I need.

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So John's case highlights the need to have a good look at your bills

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to make sure that you're happy with the amount you're being charged,

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and, indeed, that you know exactly what they're all for.

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Lynn Parker from the phone regulator Ofcom

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has some more advice on how not to get caught out by those unexpected charges.

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Two of the types of charges that consumers may not be aware of

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are, for example, caller-line identification

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where your phone displays the number of the person that's calling you.

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If you don't have a phone that actually displays the number,

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then you're not going to want to be paying this charge.

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You can be charged, for example, for not paying by direct debit.

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So consumers should see whether they can pay by direct debit

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because that might make their bills cheaper

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or they might be charged for receiving a paper bill,

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so if you have access to the internet it may be better to see your bills online and not receive a paper bill.

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You will be charged a fee if you pay your bill late,

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so consumers should clearly try to avoid that by paying on time.

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It's important that when signing up to a contract

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consumers are aware of how much it's going to cost them

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if they want to get out of the contract early.

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If consumers see a charge on their bill that they don't understand

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or they think it's for a service they haven't received...

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and go through the complaints procedure.

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If, after eight weeks, the matter hasn't been resolved,

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then the consumer has a right to go to alternative dispute resolution

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where an Ombudsman will independently decide their case.

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At a time when money is tighter than ever,

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you need to know that your cash is working hard for you,

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avoiding rip-offs and sharp practice along the way,

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so we've put together a booklet of tips and advice to help safeguard your hard-earned money.

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You can find a link to the free guide on our website...

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..or, if you want to receive a copy in the post,

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send an A5 self-addressed envelope to the address we'll give you right at the end of the programme.

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Now, we've all heard stories of insurers not paying out

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because of something in your policy's small print.

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But it's especially distressing if that happens when you're desperately ill.

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Policies covering critical or terminal illness

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are something that you would hope would be clear cut.

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But in fact the terms are often much harder to satisfy than you might have realised.

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Sometimes, whatever your illness, as far as your insurance company is concerned

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it may not be critical or even terminal enough.

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Geoff and Jackie Churches' plans for their retirement were abruptly halted

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when Jackie went for a routine medical visit.

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I went to my GP's surgery for a normal diabetic check-up.

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During the course of my check-up I asked the nurse whether she could have a look at my right breast,

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as it was very uncomfortable. She called in my GP, he had a look,

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and he found an extremely large lump.

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The lump was diagnosed as cancer and further tests revealed that it was already at an advanced stage.

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I'm quite a private person. I burst into tears,

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and was carted off somewhere to have a good cry,

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and, "That's it, girl! Get it out your system!"

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And we actually went out for a meal that lunchtime,

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because my daughter said, "I don't want to remember this day as the day I was told my mother had cancer."

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The cancer was so advanced that the family was told to prepare for the fact that Jackie was dying.

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Any treatment she would receive would only be palliative.

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Being told you're terminally ill

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is...I think...the most frightening thing anyone has ever said to me.

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Your mind goes blank to start off with,

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and you think, "One in three people have been told they've got cancer, you're now becoming a statistic...

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"What the hell am I going to do about it?" You know, there's things we've got to do.

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"How can I live without her?

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"How am I going to finance myself, etc...?"

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But most of all, "I'm going to live without her, I'm going to be on my own."

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When the doctor told me I was terminally ill, it literally was, "I'm going to die..."

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You know, do I arrange a funeral, do I...?

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There's just so much that went through your mind,

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but each time interspersing all of that is, "I'm going to die."

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And that's about all I can say is, yeah, you do feel very self-centred,

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you want to be private, you want to sneak off somewhere...

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Can we stop now?

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After the terrible news had sunk in,

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the family turned their attention to planning how to make the most of the time they had left together.

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And you put L above it.

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My youngest son, Stephen, who's very practical, asked whether we had any insurance cover.

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And we dug out the old policy, had a look at it,

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and, yes, we were covered for terminal illness.

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In that sense, we were quite relieved that we could sort some of their debts out and bills,

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and there'd be money left over for them to do those little small things they always wanted to do.

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But their hopes of a little financial help to ease the situation were soon dashed.

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The insurance policy had very specific terms and conditions

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relating to terminal illness.

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For Scottish Widows to deem that I am actually terminally ill,

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they have to write to your oncologist and get proof of your illness.

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This is the letter that my oncologist wrote back to Scottish Widows.

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I'll read you the relevant paragraph.

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"The critical point from your letter of 25 November 2010

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"was whether I could confirm life expectancy of no greater than 12 months.

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"The median survival of clients with breast cancer metastatic to the viscera is less than 12 months.

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"Therefore, although some patients can survive long-term,

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"there is a greater than 50% risk of death in the 12 months from the time of diagnosis of metastatic disease."

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To me, that paragraph is straightforward.

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To Scottish Widows, it wasn't enough.

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The sticking point was that Jackie's consultant would not say 100% that she would die within one year,

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and as their insurance policy defined terminal illness as "death within a 12-month period",

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Scottish Widows refused to pay out.

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Jackie and Geoff were left devastated.

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I mean, she is terminal, I'm going to lose her eventually,

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but they seem to be giving us both a hard time for existing.

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I've lost count of the number of times that I've apologised directly speaking to Scottish Widows advisors

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for living. It's the biggest mistake of my life is to actually have ended up living,

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as opposed to dying to their timetable.

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Jackie has already lived longer than the 12-month definition of terminal,

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but because that figure is pretty much industry standard, used by all the big insurance companies,

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when she appealed to the Financial Ombudsman service, she lost.

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Scottish Widows told us that while Jackie is suffering a serious illness,

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a specialist medical assessment said that her life expectancy can be...

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They say they go beyond the industry's best-practice guidelines when assessing claims,

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and use an independent panel to take a second look at any that aren't clear cut.

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And they've advised Jackie that "only in the unfortunate event"

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that her condition deteriorates to the point where her life expectancy is...

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..will they be in a position to pay out.

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But Jackie feels that terminal illness should not have a timetable,

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and she's been left feeling very bitter.

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I will fight them to the end, to the end, for my money that I've paid in.

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So if you've got a policy that you are relying on to offer cover if the worst happens,

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it is absolutely vital that you understand exactly what the terms and conditions mean,

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and that you are covered in the way that you believe.

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Our postbag is absolutely full of stories about things

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that are just tucked away in the small print of contracts,

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so Sarah Pennells from Savvywoman has some really good advice for you.

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If you have to make a claim on terminal illness insurance,

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it will be down to the insurer's own medical officer to decide whether or not you meet the criteria.

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If you make a claim on a policy that includes terminal illness cover

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and your insurer won't pay out,

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your first thing to do is get in touch with the insurer and complain to them.

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They've then got eight weeks to either look at your complaint and tell you they'll pay out,

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or to reject or to ask for more time.

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If you're not happy with the response...

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and it's free.

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They'll look at your case and decide.

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And if they find in your favour, they can make the insurance company pay you compensation.

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It is worth bearing in mind

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that different insurers have different approaches

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when they assess claims,

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and some may ask for different levels of evidence about how ill you are and your prognosis.

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It's another reason why it's a really good idea to buy these kind of policies

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through a good insurance broker.

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Because they'll be able to help you fight your corner

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if there's a problem and the insurer doesn't want to pay.

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Still to come on Rip-Off Britain, when not reading the small print goes more than skin deep.

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Well, the advertisement looked so good, because it said "massive fat removal and skin tightening".

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What I underlined was the results are seen immediately.

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And more of your questions answered at the Rip-Off Pop-Up Shop.

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It's a real irritation to me

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that the whole country, commerce, banks, councils, anyone,

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seems to tolerate fine print.

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As you might imagine there are many things we don't like here at Rip-Off Britain,

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but poor customer service and shoddy workmanship are right up at the top of the list.

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Pam and Russell Polloway have encountered both at the same time.

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They ordered what should have been their dream kitchen,

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but, six months on, wait till you see what they've ended up with.

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A shiny new kitchen from a company advertising online as one that cannot be beaten on price.

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The Polloways from North London thought they'd got a real bargain when they bought their kitchen

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from the website kitchensuber.co.uk back in June.

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But what exactly did they get for their money?

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This is the door which is supposed to fit the whole length of this cabinet.

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As you can see, it just about goes halfway.

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We ordered this kitchen back in June for a nice family Christmas, I thought!

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It is now November and we are still without our doors.

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Not unreasonably, Pamela and Russell expected complete units to be delivered.

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But these are not the doors and drawers they ordered from kitchensuber.co.uk.

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Because those didn't arrive, they've been forced to buy extras from their DIY store.

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My wife, looking over the internet, found this firm kitchensuber,

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who promised top quality goods for little money.

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And within a few days they sent somebody down who was supposed to be a designer-surveyor

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who measured up and showed us samples which looked very, very good, and gave us a quote.

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He said if we paid £100 deposit now, there and then,

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that we could have it for this very, very good figure.

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Encouraged to sign up on the spot to get the best deal,

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the couple agreed to pay £2,400 for their kitchen.

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We thought it would be a good idea to have it done while we go on holiday,

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so we can come back and we have a nice new kitchen.

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You can imagine our frustration when we walked through the door

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and we saw that the kitchen was half-completed,

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the doors were different colours and it was just a shambles, really.

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PHONE RINGS

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# I'm in the phone booth It's the one across the hall... #

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The Polloways called the company to complain and eventually, after clocking up many hours on the phone,

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kitchensuber.co.uk did send round some new doors,

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but...

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The replacements were just as bad as the ones they sent originally.

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So it was back to the telephone.

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I've been on the phone incessantly...

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I'm number 4 in the queue.

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..Virtually on a daily basis.

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I'm on hold. They're playing that stupid music again.

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I've been promised next week, next week, next week,

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but next week never comes.

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It has already been over ten minutes and my arm's starting to ache now.

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The Polloways decided to do some research on the company.

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My wife looked up on the computer regarding complaints about various companies,

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and found just sheets of complaints about kitchensuber,

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all with the same problem as we have had.

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Can't believe how many complaints there is! Look at them all!

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One after the other!

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So when you're making a big purchase like a kitchen, what's the best way to find a reliable company?

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I'd be suspicious of a company that was offering something

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at a very low price.

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You need to ensure that perhaps then you do some further checks to make sure you are getting a good deal.

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Look at forums on the internet

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to see whether or not there's any information about that particular company.

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Always get three quotes, I would suggest,

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and also don't be afraid to negotiate with those three companies to get the best deal.

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It's important not to be swayed by the salespeople that come to visit you,

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or in a showroom, because they're going to try and get you to perhaps spend more than you can afford.

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Having lost faith in the company and taking Trading Standards advice,

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the Polloways are going to get the doors and drawers they bought from another supplier

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fitted by a trusted builder,

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and he's asked kitchensuber.co.uk to refund him the cost of these new doors,

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and all those phone calls, of course, that he made.

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I feel that I've had no other alternative, but to go the way of the law,

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and do it that way through the small claims court.

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Because of all the frustration it's caused me

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there's just got to be an end to it one way or the other.

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And luckily now there is. When we took the Polloways' case to kitchensuber.co.uk,

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they told us that the refund Russell asked for is on its way.

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The company also told us that the problems were caused by their supplier

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giving them shades of high-gloss doors.

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The whole thing has made me feel so angry.

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It's really out me off ordering anything off the internet again,

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because, well... Just look at it! You know, it's dreadful, dreadful.

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We're at the Trafford Centre in Manchester,

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and for the first time Rip-Off Britain has opened its very first Pop-Up Shop.

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We've teamed up with BBC Learning to transform this shop unit into a one-stop consumer-advice shop,

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just for the weekend. And that's because here at Rip-Off Britain we think it's really important

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for us to meet people face to face and hear your problems.

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And this is the perfect opportunity to do exactly that.

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We've got a fantastic team of experts here to help you with your problems.

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So with a bit of luck we'll put you in touch with the right person to give you the right advice

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and send you away feeling happier.

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It's amazing to hear all the different stories that people have been telling us...

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much about energy prices, travel, insurance, and particularly the small print.

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A lot of us miss out by not reading the small print correctly,

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and I guess a lot of people want to know just where do you go to get help.

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The first stop is at Rip-Off Britain but after that many experts to tell you exactly how to do it.

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Dennis Warren came along with an all-too-common complaint.

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-This is Sylvia Rook.

-Good morning.

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-Hello.

-Now, you have a problem which is very close to my heart, I believe,

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because I can't read without my specs,

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and I think your problem is all about small print, is that right?

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It's a real irritation to me

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that the whole country, commerce, banks, councils, anyone,

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seems to tolerate fine print.

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Small print is a way of companies getting a lot of information to you in a small space.

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The argument is it shouldn't be

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so small that you can't read it.

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The law says that any information that you need to know

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should be intelligible, so you should be able to read it,

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and if it isn't it actually could be an unfair term.

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- So it's illegal? - It could potentially be.

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It very much depends on what we're looking at.

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If you're given a contract to sign and it's got terms and conditions on the back,

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there's a piece of legislation called the Unfair Terms In Consumer Contracts Regulations

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that says that every term should be in clear, intelligible language,

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so not only should it be big enough to read,

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but it should also be in wording that you can actually understand.

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And if you can't read it, then the law says you're not bound by that term.

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You've raised an issue that an awful lot of people are going to agree with,

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-and thank you very much for doing that. All the best.

-Thank you very much.

-Bye-bye.

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- Goodbye. - Thank you.

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Thousands of people write in to Rip-Off Britain each year,

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and it seems that problems with small print can crop up in all sorts of places

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as we found out with our next letter.

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We've got a card from Keith Tebbit who says a friend of his won a prize in a word-search competition.

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They were asked to send a cheque for £6.50, we don't know what that was for,

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but apparently, although the cheque was cashed, the friend has never, never got the prize.

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-That's fraud, isn't it?

-Well, there could be lots of reasons why he hasn't received the prize,

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but certainly I'd always say be very wary of a competition where you have to pay to get a prize,

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because quite often it means it's not actually a prize.

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Is there anything that can be done through Trading Standards?

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Well, the Office of Fair Trading has been looking into a lot of these competition companies,

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particularly prize-draw companies,

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and looking at their small print to see if the small print is fair

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and to see if they're omitting any information that they should give to consumers.

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That's currently ongoing, but certainly a lot of these competitions aren't quite what they seem,

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so we would say to people always be a bit careful.

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With something like this, any competition will have an address.

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If they've been trying to phone, then I would suggest that they should write to the address and say,

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"I haven't received my prize. Please either send me my prize or send me back my £6.50."

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More good advice from our experts today.

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And it just goes to show that you have to really make sure you read through everything,

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especially before sending any money in the post.

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Now, with money so tight these days, discovering that your cash hasn't bought quite what you thought it had

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can be incredibly frustrating.

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And it's especially galling if that turns out to be because of something

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that was buried away in the small print,

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or a clause that you'd just overlooked,

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which, unfortunately, is what our next case found out to their cost.

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It's two years since this became the home of Adrian and Debby Morris.

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It's a great house, but there's just one problem...

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their five growing kids.

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We started sort of late last year looking for another house with an extra downstairs room,

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preferably a separate dining room, just to make life a bit easier at meal times.

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They put their house on the market, but there wasn't a lot of interest.

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And then Debby spotted an offer from Persimmon Homes that looked like it could be the perfect solution.

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I saw a banner outside one of the show homes basically stating that they were doing a part-exchange deal,

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which sounded ideal. Obviously, we'd done the part-exchange here and we knew how easy they go through.

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And basically it was saying that obviously they were giving 105% full market value for your house,

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and obviously throwing in the carpets as well, so it was an offer really too good to miss.

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Part-exchange deals are an effective sales technique used by some of the bigger developers

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if you're thinking of buying a brand-new home.

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But it only works if you're after somewhere bigger,

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and the idea is that it lets you move chain- and hassle-free.

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To find out more, Debby and Adrian paid a visit to Persimmon's sales office.

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They saw the plans for the new house that they'd be part-exchanging their old property for,

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and it was love at first sight.

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It was going to be our dream house because it had got all the rooms that we wanted,

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it had got four bedrooms, and it had got two extra downstairs rooms,

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and the kids could even have a playroom downstairs.

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It had got a garage which was detached as well.

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A nice driveway which was all gated off at the end.

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It was a nice corner plot...

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it just looked just what we wanted.

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It wasn't built yet, so the Morrises went ahead and bought on spec.

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Not only did the house promise everything that they wanted,

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but as they'd done a part-exchange before, they thought they knew exactly what they were getting into.

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Well, obviously, with them buying the house from us,

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we haven't got to worry about waiting to find a buyer, for anyone to come along and buy this house off us.

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And that was brilliant.

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The brochure boasted, "Things couldn't be simpler!

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"We will arrange for at least...

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"agree a...

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"and...

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Not everything went smoothly along the way.

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There had been some problems finalising the mortgage which caused a delay in signing the contracts,

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but as far as the Morrises were concerned everything was back on track.

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We had a phone call from the salesperson down at Persimmon

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obviously to say that we were due to go in to choose our finishing touches for the house,

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that obviously it was at that stage, we were getting excited, the children were really excited,

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obviously seeing it go up week by week,

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and obviously when it got to a substantial size

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obviously we would point out to the children obviously where rooms were

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and obviously where their bedrooms were going to be, where their playroom was going to be...

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and they just couldn't wait to move, really.

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But then four months down the line the Morrises received a very unwelcome phone call from Persimmon.

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The company had not found a buyer for the house,

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so they wouldn't now be going ahead with the part-exchange in the way that the couple expected.

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Well, the deal we initially signed up for was part-exchange, "hassle-free" they actually advertise it as.

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Well, this is one great big hassle, one great big headache that we had obviously from Persimmon Homes.

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ADRIAN: We were nearly in tears, weren't we, both of us.

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We just couldn't believe it. Things were starting to fall apart around our ears,

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and this was looking like it was going to be the end.

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We couldn't see, really, a way round it.

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Persimmon offered to renegotiate the terms of the deal,

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but it now seemed that only way forward would be if the couple was able to help find a buyer

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for their home themselves, and at a lower price.

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Already borrowing to their maximum limit, they felt they couldn't afford to do that,

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so the sale fell through.

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We were devastated. Our dream house was gone... well, disappearing before our eyes.

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All the promises that we were made not to worry about any deadlines or things like that

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just didn't seem to matter any more.

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The collapse of the move affected the whole family.

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The Morrises' six-year-old daughter Rebecca was that upset that she even wrote to Persimmon Homes herself.

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"Dear Mr Wrigley,

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"please, can we have our house, please?"

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We asked Persimmon Homes what had happened,

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and they said the early delays in sorting the finance

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had meant that the contract had changed to one with slightly different terms,

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with the key one being...

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That didn't happen...

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And they say when the Morrises were unable to reduce the price to generate interest, they...

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..but to cancel the sale.

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They're...

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..and...

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They've also now refunded Adrian and Debby their original reservation fee, deposit,

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and a contribution towards legal costs, a sum of around £1,500,

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but say they've done that as "a gesture of goodwill" and there was no legal obligation to do so.

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It just goes to show, even when an offer looks very straightforward,

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the terms and conditions may mean it's not quite as simple as you'd hoped.

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And as a result, for a while at least, the Morrises are going to be staying put in their current home.

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We're going to stay here, aren't we, for the foreseeable future.

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It has put us off obviously moving. It's put us off obviously new builds completely.

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Next, a Rip-Off viewer very unhappy about what's happened to them.

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We'll see if we can get them some answers too.

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Botox, peels, nips and tucks are more available and affordable than ever before.

0:33:400:33:45

Thanks to technological advances what was once a painful, expensive procedure

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can now be achieved without anaesthetic during a lunch break.

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Carol Long from Kent had thought about having a neck and chin procedure for a while,

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but had always been put off by the thought of surgery.

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Well, the advertisement looked so good, because it said "massive fat removal and skin tightening".

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What I underlined was the results are seen immediately.

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And no overnight stay which I thought would be ideal,

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because I didn't really want to go under the knife as such.

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The newspaper ad that caught Carol's eye was from the Northern Clinic

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who promised minimally invasive procedures leading to immediate results for everybody.

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They use what they describe as a pioneering keyhole technique called BodyTite,

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which claims to remove fat and tighten loose skin by using controlled heat

0:34:390:34:44

to melt unwanted fat.

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I really wanted it done because I've been a little bit conscious of the fatty pad underneath my chin

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for quite some time,

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and I just thought this would be ideal.

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My tummy was an extra

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and they were only charging a minimal amount for that,

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so I thought, "Oh, I'll go ahead and have the lot done!"

0:35:120:35:16

After a 30-minute consultation, Carol signed up to £3,500 worth of treatment.

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She was then told to spend the next six weeks sticking to a strict diet plan

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and to wear a special Velcro garment round her neck to ensure the maximum benefit.

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I thought, when this does work,

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people are going to say, "Wow! You look good!"

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Not necessarily that I'm going to look wonderful,

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but they were going to look at me and think, "Mmm...something different. I wonder what it is."

0:35:450:35:50

It's almost a year since she had the procedure,

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but Carol and her mother feel that her appearance has barely changed.

0:35:540:35:59

She wrote to Northern Clinic, but their response was to arrange a follow-up consultation.

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Trading Standards advised her to pursue both the clinic and her credit-card company

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to get a refund, but so far she's had no luck.

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Will a second opinion help to strengthen her case?

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We've booked her in with an independent cosmetic surgeon John Davison

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at his clinic in Canterbury.

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-You have a fair amount of fatty tissue inside your neck.

-Yes.

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-It's fatty tissue that you could have removed with liposuction.

-Yes.

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Conventional liposuction, but it's not going to give you a tightness under your neck.

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I'm sorry to need to point out to you,

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but I know a lot of plastic surgeons, as you would expect,

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I don't know any of us who use

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any of these sorts of new products and that should be kind of almost saying something to you.

0:36:460:36:51

John's not convinced by the Northern Clinic's claims.

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The website, when it's got before and after pictures,

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it doesn't specify that they haven't had some form of other cosmetic operation as well.

0:36:590:37:05

And there's one lady in particular that I was looking at earlier on...

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the after picture you can actually see the scar from where she's had her tummy tuck,

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and that is the only way they could achieve that sort of change in appearance.

0:37:150:37:19

We looked at the online forums dedicated to BodyTite,

0:37:190:37:23

and found similar stories of disappointment.

0:37:230:37:25

People have to research things. They really have to look into them in detail beforehand.

0:37:250:37:32

Patients, I find, are often embarrassed to say to me,

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what are my, you know, qualifications, how many times have I done these operations,

0:37:350:37:41

but we're very happy to give that sort of information.

0:37:410:37:44

We contacted the Northern Clinic

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who told that the...

0:37:470:37:50

..but there is a...

0:37:520:37:53

..that in certain cases the treatment may not always be entirely successful.

0:37:550:37:58

They say that's...

0:37:580:38:00

..which must be read and signed

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before treatment is carried out.

0:38:060:38:08

They stress that all doctors who do it are...

0:38:080:38:11

..and that Carol has so far not taken up their invitation

0:38:150:38:18

to return to the clinic for a full review,

0:38:180:38:21

which they say is the only way to properly address any concerns.

0:38:210:38:25

Meanwhile, Carol won't be rushing into this sort of thing again.

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I shan't ever be thinking of any more procedures,

0:38:320:38:36

and if I do they certainly won't be in any of these sort of clinics.

0:38:360:38:41

Lots of you have been telling us about that dreadful moment

0:38:430:38:46

when you realise that something you'd signed for wasn't what you thought it was,

0:38:460:38:50

either because you hadn't read the small print or you didn't realise what it meant.

0:38:500:38:54

So what do you do if you get caught out in that way?

0:38:540:38:57

Well, I'm at the Office of Fair Trading and I'm going to see Colin Brown to talk about it.

0:38:570:39:01

Now, I know that a very high proportion of your cases

0:39:040:39:07

are to do with the issue of small print.

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Is it always a clear-cut case between "Yes, the thing was not explained properly",

0:39:100:39:15

or "Actually, you just didn't understand what you read"?

0:39:150:39:18

Well, essentially the law says

0:39:180:39:22

that if there is...

0:39:220:39:24

if a consumer and a supplier enter into a bargain,

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then the main parts of that bargain should be upfront.

0:39:280:39:32

If there's something really important about the deal

0:39:320:39:35

that's squirreled away in the small print, something really significant,

0:39:350:39:38

then, that could be an unfair term in law and we would want to look at that.

0:39:380:39:43

Has the issue of small print got worse over the years?

0:39:430:39:47

Er... that's a really hard one to answer, but I think there's just more of it.

0:39:480:39:53

It's not that it's got worse as a problem, it's just there is more of it around in our lives.

0:39:530:39:58

Do you think that companies do actually set out to pull the wool over people's eyes?

0:39:580:40:02

That does happen. I would say that a large number of the problems that we find

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are in fact companies not thinking, not knowing how to do things properly,

0:40:080:40:14

and they just need pushing back on to the straight and narrow.

0:40:140:40:17

There are undoubtedly some business models that do rely on having small print

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which consumers don't notice.

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And if people do feel they've fallen for a trick, if you like,

0:40:240:40:29

or not noticed something that they should have had brought to their attention,

0:40:290:40:32

how should they set about getting redress?

0:40:320:40:35

The first thing they should so is contact Consumer Direct.

0:40:350:40:39

It's a service that gives advice to consumers when they've got a problem.

0:40:390:40:44

The best place to get to it is on the directgov website.

0:40:440:40:48

Now, they may refer you to other services such as the Financial Ombudsman

0:40:480:40:53

or one of the other Ombudsmen, but start with Consumer Direct. That's your best bet.

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Here at Rip-Off Britain, we're always ready to investigate more of your stories.

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Confused over your bills? Trying to wade through endless small print that leaves you none the wiser?

0:41:050:41:13

I might have been stupid for not reading it, or I've read it and not took it in.

0:41:130:41:18

I could kick myself. I really could.

0:41:180:41:20

Unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out

0:41:200:41:23

and that so-called great deal has ended up costing you money?

0:41:230:41:27

I thought, "This cannot be true. It's totally unacceptable!" I was so angry.

0:41:270:41:33

You might have a cautionary tale of your own and want to share the mistakes you've made with us,

0:41:340:41:39

so others don't do the same.

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No-one knows about this, so this is very, very strange to me,

0:41:410:41:44

and I really would like to get this much clearer.

0:41:440:41:47

You can write to us at...

0:41:480:41:49

..or send us an e-mail...

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The Rip-Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories.

0:42:050:42:10

So the moral of this story is, and you've heard it plenty of times here before,

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-do read the...

-Small print!

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And if something's not clear, of course, get a second opinion.

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That is so true, and we certainly hope that before signing anything in the future,

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you're going to hear our voices ringing in your ears on this.

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I admit it really isn't the most gripping of reading,

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but do take your time going through the paperwork,

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so that you can make a considered decision before you commit to signing anything.

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Wise words. Well, that's it for today.

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Thanks for joining us and for sending in all your letters and e-mails.

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We'll see you again soon when we'll be doing our best to protect you from being ripped off.

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-Till then, from all of us, goodbye.

-Bye-bye.

-Bye.

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