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We asked you to tell us who has left you feeling ripped off. | 0:00:01 | 0:00:05 | |
And you contacted us in your thousands - by post, e-mail, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
even stopping us on the streets. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
And the message could not be clearer... | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
They're in it for what they can get. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
They're not in it to provide a service. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
I didn't sleep. It upset me so much that I didn't sleep. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
You've told us, with money tighter than ever, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
you need to be sure that every pound you spend is worth it. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:30 | |
How do I get my money back? Cos I think I'm entitled to it. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
So, whether it's a deliberate rip-off, | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
a simple mistake | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
or a catch in the small print, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:38 | |
we'll find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:42 | |
Keep asking the questions. Go to the top, if you have to. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:46 | |
We DO get results, that's the interesting thing. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
Your stories, your money. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
Hello, and a very warm welcome to Rip-Off Britain, | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
where it's our job to get to the bottom of why you've had a raw deal, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
or, indeed, if you feel you're not getting the service you expect, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
and, indeed, deserve. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:05 | |
Whether it by pounds or pennies, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
the people we'll meet today all feel they've lost out, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
and they want to know why, so we'll be getting answers for them | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
and making sure that you know how to avoid the same sort of upset. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
So, there's plenty of good advice coming up, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
because some of the situations we're going to be hearing about | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
involve everyday costs or annoyances - | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
the sort of things that really could very easily happen to any one of us. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:29 | |
But, as you'll see, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
they can end up causing a lot more bother than you'd bargained for. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
Coming up, some of most memorable stories we've covered in the past. | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
The former nurse who thought she'd taken out a £17,000 mortgage. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
So, how come her bank now says she owes them £100,000? | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
I was just shattered. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
I couldn't believe this was happening to me. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
The families being charged hundreds of pounds by care homes | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
after their relatives have died. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
Just because it's legal doesn't make it morally or ethically right. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
This is charging the dead, really, for a service they've not had. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
And we open our doors to try | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
and solve some of your problems on the spot. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
We declare our pop-up shop... ALL: Open! | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
Now, what do you have to do to be classed as "occupying your home"? | 0:02:19 | 0:02:25 | |
Does it mean that you stay there overnight? | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
Or is it being at the property every day? | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
Now, I admit that may seem rather an odd question, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
but it is one that really matters when it comes to house insurance. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
Andrew Hill is a carpenter, skilled at what he does. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
So, when he and his girlfriend Chaska decided to buy a house | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
in the town of Glastonbury, they wanted one that THEY could work on. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
And with a bit of financial help from his dad, and a mortgage, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
they found the perfect bungalow, priced at £138,000. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
We decided to go for a really run-down bungalow that needed | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
a lot of work doing to it. And a project for me. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
With all the paperwork done and dusted, via a consultant | 0:03:09 | 0:03:13 | |
at Countrywide Estate Agents, the redevelopment began. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
For 12 months, at evenings and weekends, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
they worked on the project. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:21 | |
Coming to the end, it was looking amazing. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
Every room we were happy with. It was basically ready to move in. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:28 | |
But on the night of April 9th, 2011, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:33 | |
just two weeks before they were due to move in, disaster struck. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
A neighbour's home caught fire and the fire quickly spread | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
to Andrew and Chaska's house, with devastating consequences. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
I got the call from my best friend's sister and she said, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:50 | |
"Your neighbour's house is on fire" and, within 20 minutes, | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
half an hour, it was ripping through our roof. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
And I just couldn't believe what I was seeing. I felt sick, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:02 | |
gutted, shocked. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:04 | |
This big room here | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
and that bit over there is the extension which Andrew built. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
And this bit here, which is now the kitchen, was the second bedroom. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
So, this was the original kitchen, | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
which was now being turned into the third bedroom. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
And it was beautiful and ready to move into. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
As all of their hard work burnt to the ground in front of them, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
their only comfort was that, along with their mortgage, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
they'd taken out home protection and buildings insurance. | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
Everyone kept reassuring us, saying, "Don't worry, you're insured, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
"it'll be OK, it's just going to be tough for a few months." | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
But that was an understatement. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
They put in a claim on their policy, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:48 | |
which, though organised by Countrywide, was underwritten | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
by Axa, one of the biggest names in the insurance business. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
Their claim was rejected, on the grounds that the house | 0:04:55 | 0:05:00 | |
wasn't permanently lived in during renovation. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
They said, "If we'd known what your plans were, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
"we would never have insured you." | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
And, basically, our insurance was void, because the property... | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
they said the property was unoccupied. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
This is how Axa's policy spells out what they say "unoccupied" means. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:21 | |
"Unoccupied - not permanently lived in by you or by a person | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
"authorised by you for more than 60 consecutive days." | 0:05:24 | 0:05:29 | |
That's what it says. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:30 | |
But it's the ambiguity over what the word "occupied" means | 0:05:30 | 0:05:34 | |
that was at the root of Andrew's problems. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
There is, in fact, no standard industry definition. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
As far as Andrew was concerned, because he was at the house | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
every day, and the occasional night, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
he WAS occupying it. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:49 | |
And that's how his dad, Paul, understood things, too. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
We've been quite open, | 0:05:53 | 0:05:54 | |
explained our situation on numerous occasions. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
And completely overwhelmed, shocked now, by the way it's turned out. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:06 | |
All because of the words "occupancy" and "unoccupancy". | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
I can't get it out of my head, those two words... | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
..and how we're in a battle now, trying to prove it. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
Andrew insists that when he bought the policy at Countrywide, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
who'd also arranged his mortgage for him, he'd explained in detail | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
exactly what he'd be doing at the house and how often he'd be there. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:33 | |
And his dad, who was also at the meeting with the broker, agrees. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that the mortgage consultant | 0:06:36 | 0:06:41 | |
knew exactly what our plans were. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
We discussed it in great detail. We went through every question, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
we discussed our plans, we told her we was not going to be | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
living in there, that we were going to be doing modernisation works | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
and when all the works were completed, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
Andrew would be moving in. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
So, how did Andrew end up with a policy that did not seem | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
to give him the cover that he needed? | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
A question that, when they rejected his claim, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
insurers Axa said THEY couldn't answer. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
When speaking to Axa, they'd come back to us | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
and said our argument was with the broker. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
So we went back to the broker and... | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
..they basically said that we never told her. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
Unfortunately, we are told, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
regardless of whatever we said, there is nothing there to prove | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
what went on at that meeting in that office that night. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
And we are trying to... | 0:07:36 | 0:07:38 | |
..fight a battle. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:40 | |
And we can't prove what was said. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
But there should have been an easy way to clear all this up. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
The Financial Services Authority has guidelines requiring anyone | 0:07:48 | 0:07:51 | |
selling insurance to keep careful notes of the meetings | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
that they have, so that, if later, there is a dispute of exactly | 0:07:54 | 0:07:58 | |
what was said, those notes can settle it. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:02 | |
But Countrywide has failed to produce any such records. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
As a result, when Andrew | 0:08:06 | 0:08:08 | |
took his case to the Financial Ombudsmen Service, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
their initial response was to say that | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
they were not minded to uphold his complaint, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
because without any recordings or detailed notes of the sales | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
meetings with Countrywide, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
there was no evidence to suggest the policy had been mis-sold. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
But Andrew and Chaska were determined not to give up. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
For them, it made no sense that, after Andrew had spent | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
all of his free time doing up the house, | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
that wasn't enough to mean that he occupied it permanently. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
Every single morning, evening, the doors opened to that property. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
I never left the property for more than 30 days, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
even two days, because I just wanted to keep on battling through, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:53 | |
to get it finished, to move in. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
We spoke to insurers Axa about Andrew's situation. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
And they reiterated that his claim was rejected | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
because the house was not "permanently" occupied - | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
a fact that they'd only known about after the fire. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
They told us that, if they'd been aware of that | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
at the time of purchase, they would not have provided cover. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
And they bounced the issue back towards Countrywide, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
saying it was their responsibility... | 0:09:20 | 0:09:26 | |
When we pushed Countrywide for an explanation, | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
they just said that... | 0:09:32 | 0:09:38 | |
And they didn't explain why they hadn't been able to produce | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
any notes at all from the sales meeting they had with Andrew, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
as the guidelines said they should. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
But then in July 2012, there was some encouraging news. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
After looking at the case again, the Financial Ombudsmen Service | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
upheld Andrew's complaint against Countrywide, concluding | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
that the policy WAS mis-sold, on the basis of all the evidence. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
So, we went back to Countrywide once more. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
They told us they were reviewing the case, but it wasn't clear how, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
or if, the case would be resolved, leaving Andrew and Chaska | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
worried that they still faced losing the entire value of their home. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:21 | |
The fire actually started in our next door neighbour's house, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
but, as you can see, their house has been rebuilt | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
because their insurance has paid out. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
Whereas, our house is still left like this, our insurance won't pay. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
At the moment, we're stuck between the broker and the insurer | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
and I've still got pay for the mortgage, my loans, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
for this pile of rubbish. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
But then in August 2012, after we'd been contacting everyone | 0:10:50 | 0:10:55 | |
involved over several months, there was a very welcome final twist. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:00 | |
Insurers Axa rang Andrew at work with a change of heart. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
I had to go outside because I couldn't hear the lady properly, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
and then she said, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:07 | |
"Axa are going to pay for the full rebuild of your house." | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
And it was just... | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
It was like winning the lottery ticket | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
and I was just running around, shouting... | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
Jumping around. We both were. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
You come home from work, didn't you, cos you were like, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
"I need to sit down and take this information in." I couldn't... | 0:11:20 | 0:11:24 | |
I just couldn't work any more. | 0:11:24 | 0:11:25 | |
I was walking around, just smiling, shouting... | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
Ringing all my friends up, saying, "Guess what? | 0:11:29 | 0:11:31 | |
"They're going to pay!" | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
Axa told us, after reviewing the case in more detail, | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
they understand that Andrew | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
answered all of the application questions honestly | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
and should not be disadvantaged | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
as a result of miscommunication between them and Countrywide. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
They've now paid the claim in full and given compensation! | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
It's finally coming to an end. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
We can actually start to... Get on with our lives. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
And look forward to the future, rather than just... | 0:11:58 | 0:12:02 | |
being in complete and utter... | 0:12:02 | 0:12:03 | |
Have a black cloud over our head, really, isn't it? | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
Our lives have been on hold for the past 18 months, | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
so, finally, we can look to the future. Yeah. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
And since we first featured Andrew and Chaska's story, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
they have been able to completely rebuild the bungalow. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
They've now, at last, been able to move in and enjoy their dream home. | 0:12:18 | 0:12:24 | |
Now, someone who, despite thinking they were being very careful | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
with their money, has ended up, I'm afraid, losing it, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
and they don't want the same thing to happen to anybody else. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:36 | |
I thought I was leaving a really good nest egg. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
And now they're burdened with £100,000 to pay back | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
to the Bank of Scotland... | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
when I die. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:52 | |
The situation Penny Cooper has found herself in | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
is the opposite of everything that she'd planned. | 0:12:57 | 0:12:59 | |
Hello, there. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:02 | |
In 2011, she retired from her job as a nurse | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
at the Royal Berkshire Hospital, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
although she still goes back there to volunteer. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:10 | |
And right through her 30 years of service, | 0:13:10 | 0:13:13 | |
she was very careful with her money, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:15 | |
hoping the value of her home would safeguard the family's future. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
Isn't she beautiful?! | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
Throughout my life, I've never had a lot of money | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
and just spent what money I could afford. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
I really did plan for my children's future. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
For me to know that I was going to be able to leave them | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
half of this property and that they would get a nice little lump sum... | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
..was such a wonderful feeling for me | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
and made me feel very content. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
Penny's problem began 16 years ago, when, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
after the sale of the family home, she wanted to buy somewhere new. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
I bought this house in 1997. Saw it, fell in love with it, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
liked the area, and it was just what I wanted. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:01 | |
Penny could have used her savings to buy the house outright, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:06 | |
but wondering if it might be better to keep some of that money back | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
for a rainy day, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
she arranged a visit with an independent financial adviser. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
When I saw the financial adviser, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
we decided that it was easier for me to have a small mortgage. | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
It would then give me | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
the opportunity to have a little bit of money in the bank. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
Penny went ahead and bought the house, for £69,500, | 0:14:25 | 0:14:30 | |
taking out what she thought was a standard mortgage | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
on the property with the Bank of Scotland. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
The mortgage was sorted out for £17,000, | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
which would be a relatively small amount to pay. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:43 | |
And that amount I was happy with. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:45 | |
Penny didn't think any more about it, until after she retired. | 0:14:47 | 0:14:50 | |
She decided the time was right to re-evaluate her finances. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
So is this his sleepy time, in the morning? Yeah... | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
She went to a new financial adviser, who within weeks, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
delivered Penny some earth-shattering news. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
She said, "I've got some devastating news to tell you. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
"The mortgage that you had | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
"was called a shared appreciation mortgage. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
"It means, when you die, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
"your children will have to pay back to the Bank Of Scotland £100,000." | 0:15:14 | 0:15:19 | |
My first reaction was to vomit and I just rushed of to the loo. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
I came back and I was just shattered. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
I couldn't believe this was happening to me. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
And my thought was, "How can a £17,000 mortgage | 0:15:29 | 0:15:34 | |
"suddenly change to £100,000 that I owe them?" | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
Effectively, that's an increase of 490%. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
Penny just couldn't understand how her loan | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
had suddenly got so much bigger. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
Just the worst thing ever. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
I didn't know what to do. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
Unfortunately for Penny, | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
and indeed, the thousands of other people | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
who took out a shared appreciation mortgage, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
it is not a typical mortgage, at all. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
Sold for only a brief period between 1996 and '98 | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
and by just two banks - Barclays and the Bank of Scotland - | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
it was a unique financial product. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
THe bank offered a loan that was interest-free, | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
in return for a percentage of any increase in the property's value... | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
..as solicitor Hilary Messer explains. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
A shared appreciation mortgage | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
is an arrangement where a home owner can borrow | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
up to 25% of the value of their home. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
And when they come to repay that borrowing, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
they also have to pay up to 75% of the increase in value | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
of their home, as well as the original loan itself. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
But the loan itself is on a 0% fixed interest rate. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
But what no-one at the time had predicted | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
was the property boom at the turn of the century, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
so as house values shot up, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:55 | |
so, too, did the amount of money that anyone with this product | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
would find themselves owing the bank. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
The problems associated with the product | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
come as a result of the almost exponential rise in property prices. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:09 | |
And when people come to repay their loan, | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
because they're paying back a share of the appreciation, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
they end up with, normally, less than half of the value of their home. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
Which is exactly what has happened to Penny. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
It means that, when I die, or I need money, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
if I have to sell this property, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
I have to pay back £100,000 before I get any return. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:34 | |
The financial adviser gave me advice. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
I took her advice, I was happy with that advice. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
I trusted her, but what has happened now... | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
It was the wrong advice and I feel badly about that. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Of course, if the property market had gone down instead of up, | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
then Penny would have paid no more that the value of her initial loan. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
So she isn't a victim of bad advice, but simply bad timing, | 0:17:58 | 0:18:02 | |
especially as if she'd bought her house just a few months later, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
shared appreciation mortgages were no longer being sold. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
The banks that did sell them accept that, for many people, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
it resulted in considerable hardship. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
But they're satisfied that the terms and conditions | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
that customers signed up to were made very clear at the time. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
Penny's bank, the Bank of Scotland, told us that they take | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
"a very sympathetic approach" to anyone in difficulty | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
because of their shared appreciation mortgage, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
but stresses that customers were... | 0:18:33 | 0:18:38 | |
"..to explain how the product worked." | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
So, if Penny feels it was mis-sold | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
or that she was given unsuitable advice, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
they suggest that she takes that up | 0:18:45 | 0:18:47 | |
with the financial advisor who sold it to her. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
But they say that if she's suffering from financial hardship, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
she should contact them directly, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
to see if they can assist in any other way. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
What Penny is going through is a harsh reminder | 0:19:00 | 0:19:03 | |
that even when you do the right thing | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
and take expert advice, you do still need to understand | 0:19:05 | 0:19:08 | |
exactly what you're getting yourself into - and the risks. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
I thought I'd done everything right. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
I'd gone to a proper person that would sort out mortgages. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
I didn't understand. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
I feel very much that I've let my kids down. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
I feel still very emotional about it | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
and very upset that this situation has come | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
and would hate that to happen to anybody else. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
Who's my best boy? | 0:19:35 | 0:19:36 | |
We've opened our very own pop-up shop at the Metro Centre in Gateshead. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:47 | |
We declare our pop-up shop... | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
ALL: Open! | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
Overnight, we've transformed this space | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
into a one-stop consumer advice centre... | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
Hello, how are you? Fine. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
..so we can try and solve some of your problems face-to-face. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:03 | |
Is this is your good lady? Yes, it is. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
For one weekend, our team of experts was inside, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:07 | |
ready to offer practical advice on a variety of consumer issues. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
Gemma popped in to see personal finance expert Sarah Pennells, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
after a mistake by her bank when she switched accounts | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
left her out of pocket. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
Fire away, Gemma. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:23 | |
When I changed my bank account over | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
and changed where my wages were going to be going, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
they took all the direct debits out of the wrong account. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
I was then charged by the mortgage company | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
for a mis-payment. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:34 | |
I'm worried now about whether there will be something | 0:20:34 | 0:20:36 | |
on my credit rating. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:37 | |
You said you've already made a complaint to the bank, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
so I think you have to wait for up to eight weeks, | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
while they work out what, if anything, they're going to do. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
And if they don't offer to pay back the £42 that they've charged you, | 0:20:45 | 0:20:48 | |
then I would go and take the complaint | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
to the Financial Ombudsman service, which is free to use. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
But, I think, more importantly, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:54 | |
you do need to get a hold of a copy of your credit reference file, | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
just to make sure that that payment that was late, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
that wasn't your fault, isn't marked down there, because if it is, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
that could cause you some problems. Yeah. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
If you look at your credit file | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
and you see something there that you think really is not just, | 0:21:07 | 0:21:10 | |
what can you do about it? | 0:21:10 | 0:21:11 | |
If you think the information isn't correct, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
you've got the right to dispute it. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
Basically, you should contact | 0:21:16 | 0:21:17 | |
the credit reference company concerned, | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
tell them what you think is wrong, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
and they've got 28 days in which to either get back to you and say, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
"Yes, we'll remove this disputed mark", | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
"No, we won't, and here's why", | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
or "We need longer to look into it". | 0:21:28 | 0:21:31 | |
You know, we don't care | 0:21:31 | 0:21:32 | |
whether your consumer problem is big or small, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
we just like to hear about it, right? Absolutely right. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:38 | |
I can tell you that our black box is just the place | 0:21:38 | 0:21:40 | |
to get it all off your chest. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
I'm really annoyed about the price of fuel. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
It's ridiculous, how expensive it is. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Car insurance is an absolute disgrace. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
I've paid £2,200 for my first year's insurance. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
It's just a total rip-off. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
I've come to complain about the high prices | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
that holiday companies charge during the school holidays. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
I feel that the pensioners in this country are getting ripped off. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
But one pensioner determined not to get a raw deal is Norman. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:10 | |
Norman, it seems to me | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
that you're someone who's got an eye for a bargain, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
but it sounds as if you very nearly got caught out by an optician. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:19 | |
Tell me what happened. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:20 | |
Well, my wife and I decided to go and get new spectacles, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
and I saw an advertisement for a company offering a 25% discount | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
for pensioners who went in and purchased on their quiet days. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
So the assistant showed my wife spectacles | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
and she eventually decided on two pairs. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
So the girl immediately got her calculator out | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
and said it wouldn't be any benefit to put it through on discount. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
How much would the spectacles have cost you with your 25% discount, | 0:22:43 | 0:22:48 | |
special for pensioners, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:49 | |
and how much would it have cost you if you didn't have the 25%? | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
If I had the 25% discount for pensioners, insisted on that, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
it would have cost me £215. Yeah. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
If I didn't have the pensioner's discount | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
and went in as a normal member of the public, | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
it would have cost me £198. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
Crikey! | 0:23:06 | 0:23:07 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:23:07 | 0:23:09 | |
It certainly sounds very strange. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
I'm sure it's something Trading Standards would want to look at. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
If you're being offered a discount, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:15 | |
you shouldn't pay more than those not offered the discount. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:18 | |
This is a story where it really is, "Read the small print, | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
"and buyer, beware." | 0:23:21 | 0:23:22 | |
When you feel you've had a raw deal, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
it can be hard to know what to do or where to turn. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
So to help you, we've put together a booklet | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
full of practical tips and advice. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
You can download the free guide on our website... | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
Or, to receive a copy in the post, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
send an A5 stamped and self-addressed envelope to the address | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
that we'll give you at the end of the programme. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:51 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain... | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
The investment plan that turned out to be much riskier | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
than customers were ever led to believe. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
I don't get angry about these things, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
but, yes, I was very upset, | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
because I wasn't going to be able to stay here. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
If you're having to face the very difficult subject | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
of moving a relative into a care home, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
it can be a very stressful time. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
And amongst all the things you're going to have to consider, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
getting your head around the paperwork | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
may not seem to be a top priority - | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
indeed, it could be that the terms and conditions | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
aren't especially clear. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:33 | |
Many care homes have a clause in their contract which, | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
if you're not expecting it, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
can come as a particularly unwelcome surprise later on, | 0:24:38 | 0:24:42 | |
as it did for the families in our next story. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
Now, they had absolutely no idea at all that, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
when their relatives died, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
they would be hit with a bill for hundreds of pounds. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
Just because it's legal | 0:24:56 | 0:24:57 | |
doesn't make it morally or ethically right. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
This is charging the dead, really, for a service they've not had. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
It was while Isabel Wilkerson was grieving for her grandmother | 0:25:03 | 0:25:07 | |
that she was hit with an unexpected bill. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
What made it worse was that the whole situation | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
was a direct result of the death of 93-year-old Olive. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
Isabel has fond memories | 0:25:17 | 0:25:18 | |
of when former nurse Olive was in her prime. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
She was a very strong character, knew her own mind, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
very loving towards my mum, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
and she was... very outspoken, as well. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:35 | |
But Isabel's grandmother suffered from dementia | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
and three years ago, the family felt they had no choice | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
but to put Olive in a care home. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
But choosing one they liked wasn't easy. | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
We looked at lots of homes around Cambridge | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
and...some of them I wouldn't put my dog in. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
But we found a local one, which was lovely. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
Olive received exceptional treatment at the home they chose. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
The cost was £650 a week, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
which included accommodation, food and drink | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
and round-the-clock care. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:06 | |
She settled really well. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
They were absolutely brilliant, so yes, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
it was a massive relief that we'd got her somewhere safe | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
where she was being looked after really, really well. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
And she loved it. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
Olive spent a happy two-and-a-half years there, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
but in March 2011, she passed away. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
It was probably over a three-week period, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
she just went to her bed and became very, very poorly. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:33 | |
And she, basically, just slipped away. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:37 | |
And the staff were brilliant. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
Isabel cleared Olive's room the very next day, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
so she was shocked when she received a bill for her care | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
for the two weeks after Olive had died, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
at a cost of £1,365. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
I was livid. I couldn't quite believe that they would do that. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
I looked into it and spoke to the solicitor about it. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
She said it was quite common, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:03 | |
that these...these clauses are put into contracts | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
and some homes can charge up to four weeks. | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
It was classed as "legal". | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
And, unfortunately for Isabel, | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
it did say in the terms and conditions | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
that the contract would only be terminated two weeks after a death, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:22 | |
or when the room was cleared, if that was later. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:26 | |
I enquired to the home about it | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
and was informed that it was a period to allow the family | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
time to clear the room | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
and for them to make it suitable for somebody else to then move into. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:40 | |
But Isabel thinks the £1,300 bill is unfair, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
because it covered not just the cost of accommodation, | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
but also all her grandmother's care, food, drink, lighting, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:51 | |
heating, even laundry done on the premises - | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
services that, of course, in the two weeks after her death, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:58 | |
she hadn't used. | 0:27:58 | 0:27:59 | |
I couldn't understand how it could be legal | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
that you could charge for a service that you weren't actually giving. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
I could have understood if they'd have charged us | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
a percentage of the fee, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
to allow us time to clear the room, etc. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
But not for the whole lot. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:16 | |
What frustrated Isabel even more | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
was that she normally paid the fees from Olive's pension, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:23 | |
which had stopped the moment she died. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
As soon as she had taken her last breath, | 0:28:25 | 0:28:26 | |
her pension and her attendance allowance stopped. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
So, she has no more income... | 0:28:30 | 0:28:31 | |
..but is still expected to pay bills. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
In fact, it's not all that unusual | 0:28:37 | 0:28:38 | |
for care homes to have this sort of charge. | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
Helen English and Rob Sewell's father Jack was 93 | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
when he moved into a retirement home. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
At home, he began to really struggle. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
And it was a very difficult decision, indeed. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
He really didn't want to go and leave his home, | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
but we just couldn't see any alternative. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:58 | |
They found an ideal home close by, at a cost of £837 per week, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
with an initial deposit of £2,760. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:09 | |
That's Dad... But after three months there, | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
Jack died. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
We immediately, in the next two or three days, | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
cleared everything out of his room, made the funeral arrangements, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
and it was all quite straightforward. Quite straightforward. Yes. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:28 | |
Or it was, until they noticed | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
that the home had deducted nearly £2,000, | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
the equivalent of three weeks' care, | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
from their initial deposit. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
The home claimed that this was part of the contract, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
and indeed, there it was. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
They require one month's notice of a termination. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:45 | |
They require one month's notice of a termination. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:49 | |
We felt that that money, or at least most of it, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
should have been given back to us, because Dad was in no position | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
to give a month's notice of termination, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
because he didn't know when he was going to die. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
Rob and Helen had read the terms and conditions, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
but now feel that they weren't clear, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
because they hadn't realised that the clause | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
about the termination of residency also applied to death. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:13 | |
They're not completely clear. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
And they certainly don't specifically mention | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
what happens in the... in the event of the resident dying. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:24 | |
When the Office of Fair Trading looked into care home contracts, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
they were concerned about the "lack of clarity" with these fees, which | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
they say are often "not drafted in plain, intelligible language." | 0:30:33 | 0:30:38 | |
And though they concluded that a charge for up to four weeks | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
may be fair, if the room was unoccupied for all of that time, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:46 | |
they said that any fees after a resident's death should be made | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
"clear and prominent in the contract, | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
"so that consumers are fully aware of them." | 0:30:53 | 0:30:55 | |
Which is also the concern of Caroline Abrahams from Age UK. | 0:30:56 | 0:31:01 | |
It's absolutely horrible | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
to think you're a family member | 0:31:03 | 0:31:04 | |
who's experiencing all the distress of a bereavement and then, | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
suddenly out of the blue, you get a bill you weren't expecting, | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
for quite a large sum of money. When people go into a care home, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:15 | |
it's often at a time of crisis, so it's all a bit of a rush. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
It's very easy, then, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:19 | |
to overlook those details about what you're signing up to | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
and it is really important that care homes do everything | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
they can to bring the small print to families' attention | 0:31:25 | 0:31:29 | |
so that there aren't any horrible surprises later on. | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
Which, of course, neither family we spoke to | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
says happened in their case. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:35 | |
So, we asked both of the care homes involved whether they think | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
the charges were fair and made sufficiently clear. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:42 | |
Only the one Olive lived in replied, saying that the costs of their care | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
are... | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
"..with this fee..." | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
"..and..." | 0:31:52 | 0:31:57 | |
They say it's... | 0:31:57 | 0:31:58 | |
"..that Isabel doesn't feel it was clearly explained." | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
But Isabel, Helen and Rob remain angry and upset | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
about the charges that they've had to pay. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
There isn't a choice. Even if you challenge it beforehand, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
you've got to do the best for the person | 0:32:14 | 0:32:16 | |
and it's a big decision moving a loved one into a care home. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:19 | |
My dad would be very upset about it. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
He would have been horrified, I think, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
if he'd known that this would happen. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
Next, an investment that really did seem to be a perfect opportunity. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
And it certainly did turn out to be life-changing, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
but not at all in the way that was expected. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
At 84, Margaret Sherborne should have been enjoying | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
her retirement in peace. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:50 | |
But her quiet life has been disrupted by the effects | 0:32:52 | 0:32:55 | |
of an investment that her bank recommended she take out. | 0:32:55 | 0:33:00 | |
I'm not money-minded. I have no financial interests, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
really, but when Barclays said I should do something with this money, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
I thought that was a good idea. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
So, I was happy to invest in this fund that they recommended. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:15 | |
It never occurred to me not to trust them. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:19 | |
Margaret's financial situation first changed back in 2007. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:23 | |
Recently widowed out in Spain, she made the decision | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
to move back, to a retirement village in the UK. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
I came here because I'd come back from Spain and my son lives | 0:33:30 | 0:33:35 | |
about a half-an-hour's drive away. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
And I thought this would be quite nice to be near him. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:41 | |
If you live on your own, you are very isolated sometimes | 0:33:41 | 0:33:45 | |
and so I thought this was | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
the best of both worlds, you know. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
You've got security, privacy, and to be with other people, if you want, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:57 | |
which is good. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:58 | |
Margaret's new retirement plan would be funded from her life savings | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
and the sale of her Spanish property. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
In total, Margaret invested over £247,000, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
which she put into her account with Barclays. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
I had the money transferred to my savings account in this country. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:18 | |
And when Barclays saw that I had that much, they said | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
I really ought to be doing something different with it, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
putting it somewhere else. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:25 | |
Barclays sent round a financial adviser, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
who recommended that she invest her money in a scheme that was called | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
Aviva's Global Balanced Income Fund. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:35 | |
He told me that it would bring me in about 5,000 a quarter. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:40 | |
That, with my pensions, was going to be just about enough | 0:34:40 | 0:34:44 | |
to pay the rent. I told the Barclays adviser | 0:34:44 | 0:34:48 | |
that I didn't want a high risk, but moderate risk I was prepared for, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
in order to get a good return. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
But I don't know much about these things. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
I didn't then and I don't now. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
On the advice of the man from Barclays, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
Margaret placed her entire life savings into their recommended fund | 0:35:03 | 0:35:07 | |
and she did it because Barclays had themselves classed the fund | 0:35:07 | 0:35:11 | |
as "unadventurous". | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
So, on that advice, | 0:35:13 | 0:35:14 | |
it seemed just the sort of investment that Margaret needed - | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
unlikely to throw up any nasty surprises. Or so she thought. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:22 | |
But right from the off, | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
the fund did not perform in the way she'd expected. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
I took this investment out and then it started to fall | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
and each month it had fallen by 10,000 or 20,000 and so on, | 0:35:31 | 0:35:36 | |
until December, when it had fallen | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
so much it was really worth only half what I'd invested in, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:44 | |
half the money I'd put in. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:46 | |
I could see that I wasn't going to be able to stay here | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
in The Hawthorns. I wouldn't have enough for the rent. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
And that... I was worried about it. | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
And Margaret was far from being the only Barclays customer | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
to find herself in this predicament. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
It turned out that the bank had "misclassified" the risk, | 0:36:04 | 0:36:08 | |
not just on this fund, but on another one, too. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
So, in total, 12,000 Barclays customers, most of them | 0:36:10 | 0:36:14 | |
either already retired or approaching retirement, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
were finding that their investments were a lot riskier | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
that they'd been led to believe. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
Between them, they'd invested a total | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
of £692 million, much of which, with the funds underperforming, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:30 | |
now appeared to be lost. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
Barclays faces the biggest fine ever levied on a bank | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
for its dealings with high-street customers. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
In January 2011, | 0:36:39 | 0:36:40 | |
Barclays was fined £7.7 million by the Financial Services Authority | 0:36:40 | 0:36:45 | |
for mis-selling these funds. The FSA said they should always | 0:36:45 | 0:36:50 | |
have been described as "high risk" | 0:36:50 | 0:36:52 | |
and shouldn't have been sold to older customers, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
who could ill afford the heavy losses that the product caused. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:58 | |
For Margaret, this seemed good news. She hoped that she could reclaim | 0:36:58 | 0:37:01 | |
some of the money that she'd lost. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
When I realised how much money I'd lost, I contacted Barclays | 0:37:03 | 0:37:08 | |
and I asked if there could be any compensation, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
because I didn't have enough. Then I received a letter from them | 0:37:12 | 0:37:16 | |
saying that they admitted they had wrongly advised me, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:20 | |
but that I wasn't entitled to any compensation. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
I don't get angry about these things, but, yes, I was very upset | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
because I wasn't going to be able to stay here. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
I was worried about the money situation. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
But then Margaret heard of someone who could help. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
My daughter then told me that she'd heard of this firm | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
called Claims. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:45 | |
This company had already advised other people | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
stuck in the same situation. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:49 | |
And when they contacted Barclays about Margaret's case, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:53 | |
the bank changed its tune. | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
They offered 44,000 and I was very surprised, | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
because they'd already told me that there was nothing due to me. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
It didn't really cover the amount I had lost, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:06 | |
but it would have put me on a much more even keel. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:10 | |
Claims didn't think Barclays was offering Margaret enough | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
and an adjudicator at the Financial Ombudsman Service agreed. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
Barclays was told that in January 2012, but it disputed | 0:38:20 | 0:38:25 | |
the adjudicator's decision, leaving Margaret to wait | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
for the Ombudsman to make a final ruling, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
with further months of uncertainty and worry. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
I'd always been with Barclays all my life, for 60 years, at least. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:37 | |
I trusted them....implicitly. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:40 | |
We contacted Barclays about Margaret's case. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
They told us at the time that we first covered this story, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
"they were sympathetic to her situation." | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
And, after a recent review agreed that the fund she was sold... | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
They were sorry this was causing Margaret... | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
And said they would... | 0:38:59 | 0:39:00 | |
But for Margaret, and thousands of other pensioners | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
affected in the same way, this continued to cause | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
unwelcome stress, because it meant she was still worrying | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
about whether she could afford to stay in her home. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
All I'm concerned about is having enough money to stay here. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
I wouldn't trust them again. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
Since we first featured Margaret's story, the Ombudsman ruled | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
that she was entitled to £60,000 - the total amount that she'd lost | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
on her investment. Barclays have paid out in full and, | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
with this compensation, she's confident | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
that she can now stay in her retirement apartment for good. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
Here at Rip—Off Britain, we're always ready to investigate | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
more of your stories. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
Confused over your bills? Trying to wade through wodges | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
of small print that leave you totally confused? | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
When they sit you down to sign you up for things, | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
they don't really give you the chance or the time | 0:40:00 | 0:40:02 | |
to read through all of that small print. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
Unsure what do to do, when you discover you've lost out | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
and that so-called "great deal" has ended up costing you money? | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
You feel as though, because you got a cheap deal, you are not | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
worth their time in the same way. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
You might have a cautionary tale of your own and want | 0:40:16 | 0:40:19 | |
to share the mistakes you made with us, so others don't do the same. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:22 | |
I feel angry. I feel stupid, that I'd allowed this to happen to me. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:27 | |
You can write to us, at... | 0:40:30 | 0:40:31 | |
Or send us an e-mail, to... | 0:40:40 | 0:40:42 | |
The Rip—Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
Well, these days, especially, we all want to make sure that, | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
not only does our money stretch as far as it possibly can, | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
but that it's buying us exactly what we thought it would, | 0:40:59 | 0:41:03 | |
so it's extremely annoying when things don't turn out that way. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
But remember, our website has plenty of advice on how to make sure | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
your money is working hard for you and not just someone else. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
The address - I'm sure you remember... | 0:41:13 | 0:41:17 | |
And that's an address to make a note of. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
But do keep telling us who it is that's left you out of patience | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
or out of pocket and we'll see if we can find out why. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:27 | |
But what we are out of now is time. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
But we'll be back to investigate even more of your stories very soon, | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
so I hope you'll join us, but until then, bye-bye. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
Bye. Bye. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
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