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'We asked you to tell us who's left you feeling ripped off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
'and you contacted us in your thousands by post, e-mail, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
'even stopping us on the streets. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
'And the message couldn't be clearer.' | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
I think there's a lot of hidden information about your bills | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
that should be made a lot more clear. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
I don't feel I get treated how I should be. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
'You've told us with money tighter than ever, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
'you need to be sure that every pound you spend is worth it.' | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
How do I get my money back? Cos I just think I'm entitled to it. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
'So, whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
'or a catch in the small print, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
'we'll find out why it is that you're out of pocket and what you can do about it.' | 0:00:36 | 0:00:40 | |
Keep asking the questions, keep going to the top if you have to. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
We do get results. That's the interesting thing. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
Your stories, your money. This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:51 | |
Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
where, as always, we three are on hand to fight your corner | 0:00:55 | 0:00:59 | |
in those situations that haven't just cost you time and money | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
but have also probably caused you an awful lot of grief along the way. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
All the people we'll be hearing from today would say that they've been treated unfairly, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
either because of small print that they don't think was clear | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
or plain and simple bad customer service. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
I can tell you, we've got quite a few examples of that coming up. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
I must say, it's been a huge mailbag | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
and some of the problems are really quite shocking, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
with huge sums of money that stand to be lost. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
Now, they're all to do with problems around the home, and big problems at that. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
In fact, in one case it could hardly be worse. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
Coming up, a company that promised to bring down your council tax | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
but in reality was just after your cash. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
I don't think I'll ever get my money back. I do know it was a con. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
It was in the papers. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
It was a scam and I could say bye-bye to my money. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
And with insurers continuing to count the cost of recent floods, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
could you end up paying the price? | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
They're not making the money they think they should be making, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
so they'll continue to search for a reason | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
to punish householders for wanting to protect their greatest asset. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
Now, what do you have to do to be classed as occupying your home? | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
Does it mean that you stay there overnight? | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
Or is it being at the property every day? | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
Now, I admit that may seem rather an odd question | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
but it is one that really matters when it comes to house insurance. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
As this next couple found out, they face losing everything | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
because of that one tiny detail which made all the difference. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:34 | |
Andrew Hill is a skilled carpenter, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
so when he and girlfriend Chaska decided to buy a house in the town of Glastonbury, | 0:02:42 | 0:02:47 | |
they wanted one that they could work on themselves, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
and with a bit of financial help from his dad, and a mortgage, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
they found the perfect bungalow priced at £138,000. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:58 | |
We had gone for a really run-down bungalow that needed a lot of work doing to it | 0:02:59 | 0:03:04 | |
and a project for me. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:05 | |
With all the paperwork done and dusted via a consultant at Countrywide estate agents, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:12 | |
the redevelopment began. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
For 12 months, at evenings and weekends, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
they worked on the project. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
Coming to the end, it was looking amazing. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
Every room, we were happy with. It was basically ready to move in. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
But on the night of April 9th, 2011, | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
just two weeks before they were due to move in, | 0:03:29 | 0:03:33 | |
disaster struck. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
A neighbour's home caught fire | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
and the fire quickly spread to Andrew and Chaska's house. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
Within 20 minutes, half an hour, it was ripping through our roof. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
And I just couldn't believe what I was seeing. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
I felt sick, gutted, shocked. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
This big room here and that bit over there is the extension Andrew built | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
and this bit here which is now the kitchen was the second bedroom. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:01 | |
As all of their hard work burnt to the ground in front of them, | 0:04:01 | 0:04:04 | |
their only comfort was that, along with their mortgage, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
they'd taken out home protection and buildings insurance. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
Everyone kept reassuring us, saying, "Don't worry, you're insured. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
"It'll be OK. It's just going to be tough for a few months." | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
That was an understatement. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
They put in a claim on their policy, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
which, though organised by Countrywide, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
was underwritten by AXA, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
one of the biggest names in the insurance business. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
But their claim was rejected | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
on the grounds that the house was not permanently lived in during renovation. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:39 | |
They said, "If we'd known what your plans were, | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
"we would never have insured you," | 0:04:41 | 0:04:43 | |
and basically our insurance was void | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
because they said the property was unoccupied. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
But it's the ambiguity over what the word occupied means | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
that's at the root of Andrew's problems now. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
There is, in fact, no standard industry definition | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
and as far as Andrew was concerned, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:01 | |
because he WAS at the house every day and the occasional night, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:05 | |
he WAS occupying it. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
I'd never left the property for more than 30 days, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
even two days, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
because I just wanted to keep on battling through | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
to get it finished, to move in. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
Andrew insists that when he bought the insurance at Countrywide | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
who'd also arranged his mortgage for him, he'd explained in detail | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
exactly what he'd be doing at the house and how often he be there, | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
and his dad, who was also at the meeting with the broker, agrees. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
There's absolutely no doubt in my mind | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
that the mortgage consultant knew exactly what our plans were. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
We told her that we were not going to be living in there, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
that we were going to be doing modernisation works | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
and when all the works were completed, Andrew would be moving in. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
So how did Andrew end up with a policy that did not give him the cover that he needed? | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
A question that, when they rejected his claim, | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
insurers AXA said they couldn't answer. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
When speaking to AXA, they'd come back to us and said | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
our argument was with the broker, so we went back to the broker and... | 0:06:05 | 0:06:11 | |
..they basically said that we never told her. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
Unfortunately, we are told regardless of whatever we said, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
there is nothing there to prove what went on at that meeting | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
in that office that night. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
And we are trying to...fight a battle... | 0:06:27 | 0:06:32 | |
and we can't prove what was said. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
There should have been an easy way to clear all of that up. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
The Financial Services Authority has guidelines | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
requiring anyone selling insurance to keep careful notes of their meetings | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
so that if later there is a dispute over what was said, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
those notes can settle it. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
But Countrywide weren't able to produce any such records. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
As a result, when Andrew first took his case to the Financial Ombudsman Service, | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
he was told that there was no evidence to suggest that the policy had been mis-sold, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:05 | |
leaving the couple faced with losing the entire value of their home. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:10 | |
The fire actually started in our next-door neighbour's house, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
but as you can see, their house has been rebuilt because their insurance has paid out. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
Whereas our house is still left like this. Our insurance won't pay. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:21 | |
On their behalf, we spoke to insurers AXA, | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
who reiterated that the claim was rejected because the house was not permanently occupied, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:33 | |
a fact that THEY'D only known about after the fire. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
If they'd known that at the time of purchase, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
they would not have provided cover. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
And they bounced it all back towards Countrywide, | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
saying it was their responsibility: | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
But when we asked Countrywide for an explanation, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
they just said that while they're: | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
And they didn't explain why they'd been unable to produce any notes | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
from the original meeting with Andrew, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
as the guidelines said they should. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
At the moment, we're stuck between the broker and the insurer, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:19 | |
and I've still got to pay for the mortgage, my loans | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
for this pile of rubbish. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
But we kept pushing | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
and are delighted to say that this story does have a happy ending. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
After looking at the case again, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
the Financial Ombudsman Service upheld Andrew's complaint against Countrywide, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
concluding that the policy was mis-sold | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
on the basis of all the evidence. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
And then insurers AXA unexpectedly rang Andrew at work | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
with a change of heart. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
Then she said, "AXA are going to pay for the full rebuild of your house," | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
and it was just... It was like a winning lottery ticket | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
and I was just running round, shouting, ringing all my friends up, | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
saying, "Guess what? They're going to pay!" | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
After reviewing the case in more detail, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
AXA said they understand that | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
Andrew answered all of the application questions honestly | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
and should not be disadvantaged as a result of a mis-communication | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
between them and Countrywide. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
They've now paid the claim in full and also given compensation. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:25 | |
It's finally...coming to an end. We can actually start to... | 0:09:25 | 0:09:30 | |
Get on with our lives. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
Cos our lives have been on hold for the past 18 months, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
-so finally we can look to the future. -Yeah. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
Something we need to be increasingly on our guard against | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
is certain companies promising that in return for a fee of course, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
they can win back money for us which we've paid out in the past. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
So if you've ever wondered if you pay too much council tax, | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
you're exactly the sort of person they're after. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
It was October 2010 when right out of the blue, | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
Jackie Roast got an intriguing phone-call with a very attractive offer. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
It was from a company called Council Tax Review | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
who suggested that her house might have been put into the wrong council tax band. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
As a result, over the 13 years since she'd moved in, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:16 | |
she may have been paying too much tax | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
and that was money that the company suggested they could get back for her. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
I didn't really understand council tax banding | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
but I thought it might be worthwhile so we'd listened to him. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
Jackie arranged a visit from someone at the company to explain more | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
and when he came round, he made it sound like she had absolutely nothing to lose. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:38 | |
He convinced me | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
he would need £185 for the paperwork | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
and then should they be unsuccessful, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
that will be refundable. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
It seemed perfect. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
If the company was successful, Jackie would pay less tax and get money back | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
and if they weren't, they'd refund her her fee, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
so she signed a cheque for £185 | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
and left it to Council Tax Review to pursue her case. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
The man had told Jackie that this wasn't a job | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
she could easily do for herself | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
but a couple of weeks after signing up she realised that that wasn't true | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
and you shouldn't need to pay anybody else to do it. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:16 | |
After my sister told me that she had been down to the council | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
and got her money back of £3,000 without any assistance from anyone, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
I decided to ring the Council Tax Review people I'd been involved with | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
and ask for my money back. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
But Jackie's attempts at getting back what she'd paid out | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
to Council Tax Review didn't get her very far, | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
despite their promise that the fee would be refundable. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
It was one excuse after another. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
They were constantly fobbing me off. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
It's now two years since Jackie signed up with Council Tax Review. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
She's seen neither a refund nor any evidence that the company | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
had bothered doing the work they promised in the first place. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
I've retired this year, my husband's due for retirement | 0:11:57 | 0:12:01 | |
and I was hoping that we would have | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
a smaller banding to pay | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
and that we would have that little bit of money back in the bank. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
I feel angry. I feel stupid | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
that I'd allowed this to happen to me. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
But Jackie is by no means the only person taken in by Council Tax Review. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
West Yorkshire Trading Standards received over 800 complaints about the company, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:27 | |
all from people who'd been told that they, too, could be in line for thousands of pounds in rebates | 0:12:27 | 0:12:32 | |
in return for that refundable upfront fee. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
They signed up, they paid the money, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
and they were finding that things weren't happening | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
at the sort of pace that they perhaps expected. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
The man behind Council Tax Review, Jack Darrell Henry, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
was found guilty of a series of offences involving unfair commercial practices. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:51 | |
The judge said that Henry had engaged in sharp and shoddy practices | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
which were a whisker away from fraud. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
But while this company has been put out of business, | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
there are deep concerns others with similar tactics | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
may spring up in its place. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
We've seen several examples of companies like this | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
where effectively they are offering a service which can actually be performed by yourself. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:13 | |
You've got to learn that don't sign anything if you don't want to, | 0:13:13 | 0:13:18 | |
take the information away by all means but have a think about it first. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
The easiest way to find out if you're in the wrong council tax band | 0:13:21 | 0:13:25 | |
is to contact your local Valuation Office yourself. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
It won't cost anything more than the price of the call | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
and it's absolutely free if you do it online, | 0:13:32 | 0:13:34 | |
something Jackie wishes she'd known when she first got that call. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
I don't think I'll ever get my money back. It was in the papers. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
It was a scam and I could say bye-bye to my money. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
The Rip-Off Britain team has opened up a one-stop consumer advice shop. | 0:13:49 | 0:13:54 | |
It's the perfect opportunity to meet many of you face-to-face, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
and, more importantly, for our team of experts to help tackle your consumer problems. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:03 | |
Gloria, isn't it great to be back in the pop-up shop | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
and find so many people wanting to talk to our experts? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
I know. The success of it, I think, has been fantastic. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
And one man who's come for advice | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
is former squash champion Aftab Jerwain. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
He's hoping his diary of evidence will help our telecommunications expert David McLelland | 0:14:18 | 0:14:24 | |
get to the bottom of a dispute he's having with his phone company. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
He paid 12 months line rental up front | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
but two months later moved house. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:32 | |
And despite using the same provider in his new home, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
he was told the old contract was non-refundable | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
and he'd have to pay again for another. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
I started getting the letters from their solicitors of the company. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
-Threatening letters trying to scare you into submission... -Yes. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
That's a common tactic, unfortunately. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
First, let me congratulate you. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
You've made such a good diary and that is textbook stuff | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
and that will really help you later on. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
According to the letter of the terms and conditions | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
that contract was terminated. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
However, if it wasn't made absolutely clear to you that that would be the case, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
you have a strong case. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:10 | |
In your official letter of complaint, you set out very clearly | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
how you want this to be resolved and if that fails, the next step after that is the ombudsman. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:19 | |
With this brilliant diary of information you've got here, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
I'm pretty sure your case will be very clear indeed. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
Some parts of Britain have been hit by disastrous floods in recent years | 0:15:28 | 0:15:32 | |
and, although they might not like it, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
you can understand why those people who live in the worst affected areas | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
may now have to pay increased insurance premiums as a result. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
But what if you live in an area that has never seen a proper flood in living memory | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
and your premiums suddenly start to soar | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
because, apparently, you have got an increased risk of flooding? | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
Well, that's exactly what happened to Nancy Herely. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
She could just not understand what was going on and she asked us to investigate | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
and, you know, it's a good job that she did | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
because this time it seems that her insurance company | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
really did not know what they were talking about. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
We're getting used to seeing images of homes underwater, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
devastating floods hit parts of Britain several times last year, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
most recently around Christmas, but even after the heaviest downpours, | 0:16:19 | 0:16:23 | |
the part of Lincolnshire where Nancy Herely and her husband, Phil, have lived for the last decade | 0:16:23 | 0:16:28 | |
remained unscathed. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
In fact, it is 50 years since the area saw a flood. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:34 | |
It's an absolutely stunning part of the country. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
We found a house that we absolutely love | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
and we found a beautiful way of life here. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
When the couple moved into their farmhouse, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
they arranged their home and contents insurance through Cornhill Direct. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:49 | |
The cover protected them for home and contents, fire and flooding. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:54 | |
Our first insurance policy was for £177.50. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
Gradually, over the years, it crept up. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
I believe in 2009, it was slightly over £300. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
Over the next seven years up to 2009, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
the premiums had gone up by a fairly modest £129. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
And in 2007, the policy was very useful | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
when Nancy needed to make a claim for some storm damage. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
They told us simply to get it repaired and paid everything very promptly. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
We were very pleased with the treatment we had. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
Or, at least, they were until 2010 | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
when the cost of their annual insurance suddenly went up from £300 to £490. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:33 | |
Cornhill put it down to the fact that they had reclassified the area where Nancy's house sits | 0:17:33 | 0:17:38 | |
as a flood risk area. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
We had never had any indication this area had suddenly become | 0:17:40 | 0:17:45 | |
an area of concern for the insurers with regard to the floods. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
Nancy reluctantly paid the increased premium, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
but the next year brought an even bigger shock. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
In 2011, we received a premium request for £737.26. | 0:17:55 | 0:18:03 | |
We were absolutely astonished because this was a massive increase. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:08 | |
In two years, Nancy's policy had gone up by 141 percent | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
because of a risk that Nancy believed would never happen. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
So, together with her neighbours, | 0:18:17 | 0:18:18 | |
some of whom were experiencing similar problems with their insurance companies, | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
she hatched a plan to fight back. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:25 | |
Through their local MP, they arranged a meeting with a man from the Environment Agency. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
He said they too had recently reclassified the area's risk of flood | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
but, unlike the insurers, they had downgraded it. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
He talked about the fact that it has not flooded in this area since 1957 | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
and that the area is now being changed from a significant risk of flooding | 0:18:42 | 0:18:48 | |
to a moderate risk of flooding. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
Insurance companies do not have to use the Environment Agency's analysis when setting premiums, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:56 | |
but Nancy couldn't understand why Cornhill Direct was saying the likelihood of flooding | 0:18:56 | 0:19:00 | |
was increasing at a time when the Environment Agency was saying the exact opposite. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:05 | |
They simply did not want to know that we had a government agency | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
that could verify that this area was in no great danger of flooding. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
Nancy took her business elsewhere, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
organising her home insurance with a local broker for just £264. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:21 | |
But she still feels aggrieved that Cornhill Direct wouldn't listen to what she was saying. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:27 | |
They were unwilling to look beyond what their computer screens gave them as a definition | 0:19:27 | 0:19:34 | |
of the area and what their underwriters would permit. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
When we contacted Cornhill Direct, the story took an unexpected turn. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
The company agreed that Nancy's postcode was not in an area at high risk of flooding | 0:19:43 | 0:19:48 | |
and they told us that when they said it was, | 0:19:48 | 0:19:50 | |
what they actually meant was that it was suddenly at a greater risk of subsidence | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
because of shrinkable clay soil in the area. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
When we broke the news to Nancy, she was flabbergasted. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
Subsidence! | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
I was told twice it was flooding. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
No-one ever mentioned subsidence, no-one ever mentioned clay. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
Absolutely astonishing! | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
I am... I am truly amazed. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
I am... I am furious actually. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
And the neighbours were even more amused to hear one of the company's other explanations. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:26 | |
In an e-mail to us, they said they'd been influenced by - wait for it - | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
some of the local street names on Google Maps. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:33 | |
"The River Witham passes her property..." | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
GASPS | 0:20:35 | 0:20:36 | |
"..and the neighbouring road have such names as | 0:20:36 | 0:20:41 | |
"40 Foot Bank, Ferry Lane | 0:20:41 | 0:20:43 | |
"and Fifteen Foot Drain. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
"I think it is forgiveable for making the assumption that our stance | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
"was due to flood rather than any other peril." | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
Cornhill Direct told us they'd adjusted the premiums | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
after working with an external provider of geographical hazard data | 0:20:57 | 0:21:02 | |
so they could improve the sophistication and accuracy of their pricing | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
and, putting aside the inaccuracy of confusing flooding with subsidence | 0:21:06 | 0:21:11 | |
they are satisfied that from a technical underwriting respective, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
the policy has performed exactly as intended. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
They say their premiums reflect what they believe to be the risks presented to them | 0:21:17 | 0:21:21 | |
and they don't increase them by any more than they have to. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
But Nancy is not persuaded that the new justification for the price hike holds any more water | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
than the old one, especially considering that she has been able to find the same type of cover | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
for the coming year for just £202. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
They're not making the money that they think they should be making. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
Therefore, they'll continue searching for a reason to punish householders | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
for protecting their greatest asset. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
So, yes, I will tackle them on this and, yes, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
I will continue to fight and I will be as loud as possible. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
I'm not going away. They may think they've won, but I'm not going away. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
Sometimes when you feel ripped off, | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
it could be you that's made a mistake. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Perhaps you didn't read the small print or realise the consequences of what you signed up to. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
Whoever is at fault, when things go wrong, | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
you need to know what to do about it. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
So, we've put together a booklet of tips and advice. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
You can find a link to the free guide on our website: | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
Or, to receive a copy in the post, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
send a stamped self-addressed A5 envelope | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
to the address which we will give you at the end of the programme. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:36 | |
If you're lucky enough to have a guarantee for work that's been done on your home, | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
you'd think it would be obvious what it entitles you to. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
But that's not always the case. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
Sometimes it turns out that the guarantee you've pinned your hopes on | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
is no longer worth the paper it's written on. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
# I could have danced all night | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
# I could have dance all night... # | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
When amateur singer Adrienne Guthrie was looking for a new place to live, | 0:23:01 | 0:23:06 | |
Wetherby in Yorkshire seemed the obvious choice. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
I looked for a property near friends and, because most of the activities I am involved in, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:14 | |
the ladies' choir and one or two other activities are in Wetherby. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
Adrienne had no trouble finding her ideal home. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
She was sent a stack of paperwork to go with the purchase | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
and amongst it was some very good news. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
Or so she thought. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
I saw that there was a guarantee for the double glazing | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
for a ten-year period. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
Double glazing had been installed less than two years earlier. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
But Adrienne soon noticed her double glazing wasn't keeping the house is warm as she'd expected. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:44 | |
I hadn't been in the house very long when I realised that the kitchen was very cold | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
and as the cold weather came, it was just like being in an ice box. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
Adrienne traced the problem to the kitchen door, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
which didn't seem to have been fitted properly. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
I wasn't unduly worried. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
I thought that the double glazing would be covered under the guarantee | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
and it would just be a repair. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
So Adrienne contacted the company who'd issued the guarantee, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
Orion Windows Limited. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
But they told her the guarantee was no good to her | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
because it was only valid for the customer who'd installed the glazing. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
In other words, the house's previous owner. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
I just couldn't believe it | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
and nobody could understand why the guarantee wasn't transferable | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
from one owner to the next and why it didn't stay with the house. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:35 | |
To make matters worse, a few weeks later, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
there was another problem with Adrienne's double glazing. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
I suddenly heard three loud cracks and when I went into the back bedroom, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
the window had cracked from top to bottom. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
It was very cold outside and I'm assuming it was because of the cold. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
So, with two double glazing problems in just two months, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
you can see why Adrienne was annoyed at the prospect of shelling out for repairs that, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
because she had that guarantee, she believed should be done for free. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
I don't understand why the guarantee doesn't transfer from owner to owner. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:08 | |
It's just ridiculous the way it is just null and void. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:14 | |
In fact, double glazing suppliers aren't under any obligation to supply transferable guarantees | 0:25:15 | 0:25:21 | |
unless they are members of the industry trade body, the Glass and Glazing Federation. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:27 | |
In that case, they are supposed to honour guarantees if the house changes hands. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:32 | |
And, funnily enough, Orion Windows Ltd is a member. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:37 | |
When we contacted them, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:38 | |
they blamed an oversight and were quick to put things right. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
They made what they call very minor adjustments to sort out Adrienne's glazing | 0:25:43 | 0:25:47 | |
and immediately transferred the unexpired portion of their guarantee to her. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:52 | |
They assured us that all other guarantees would now be transferable. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
We also spoke to the Glass and Glazing Federation | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
who reiterated that it's a mandatory requirement for all their members to provide transferable guarantees. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:07 | |
But when we contacted the 20 Glass and Glazing Federation members | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
closest to where Adrienne lives to see if they offer transferable guarantees, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:16 | |
four of them said they didn't. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:17 | |
We've passed that information on to the Federation | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
who said they will be reminding all their members of their obligations on this. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
Here at Rip-Off Britain, we're always ready to investigate more of your stories. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:31 | |
Confused over your bills? | 0:26:31 | 0:26:32 | |
Trying to wade through never-ending small print? | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
We should read it, but it's not in plain English. It should be simple. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
You might have a cautionary tale of your own | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
and want to share the mistakes you've made with us so that others don't do the same. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
We paid them good money to act in our best interests. They didn't. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:50 | |
You can write to us at: | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
Or send us an e-mail: | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
The Rip-Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:13 | |
I think we'd all agree that it's really never good to find that you've been ripped off, | 0:27:16 | 0:27:21 | |
but somehow it's particularly bad when it affects your own home. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
But, as ever, one way or another, it is quite often paperwork that's at the root of the problem. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:31 | |
Whether it's been a promise that hasn't been kept or a clause that you didn't quite understand - | 0:27:31 | 0:27:36 | |
and we get a lot of that, don't we? | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
Yes, as we've seen from our stories today, you can't always be confident | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
that you'll get what you thought you'd signed up to. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
But doing research and ploughing through all those boring old terms and conditions | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
is still the best way to protect yourself and your property. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
Because your home, as you know, is the most important asset that you will probably ever have | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
so battling through that small print really is worthwhile, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
even if they don't always make it that easy for you. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
That's where we've got to leave it for today. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
We hope you'll join us again for more of your stories. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
-Until next time, from all of us, bye-bye. -Bye. -Goodbye. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
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