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We asked you to tell us who's left you feeling ripped off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:06 | |
and you contacted us in your thousands - | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
by post, email, even stopping us on the streets. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:13 | |
And the message could not be clearer. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
Things weren't right - it was costing me time and money. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
And it was like, does anybody listen? | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
But, unfortunately, | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
I think these companies are more motivated by their share price | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
than by actually looking after the customers. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
You've told us that with money tighter than ever, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
you need to make sure that every pound you spend is worth it. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
How do I get my money back? Cos I just think I'm entitled to it. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
So whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake | 0:00:35 | 0:00:40 | |
or a catch in the small print, we'll find out why | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
you're out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
Keep asking the questions. Go to the top if you have to. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
We do get results, I mean, that's the interesting thing. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
Your stories. Your money. This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
Hello and welcome to Rip-Off Britain, | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
the series that really battles on your behalf | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
when maybe nobody else will | 0:01:04 | 0:01:05 | |
and you feel that you've really been let down | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
and then we try to get to the bottom of why it is | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
that all too often you just have not ended up with what you expected. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
All the stories we investigate come directly from you | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
and the ones we're going to be hearing about today | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
have something else in common. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
They each involve unexpected and serious problems | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
that have come up after moving house. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
Let's face it, the whole process of moving | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
can be stressful enough at the best of times, | 0:01:29 | 0:01:31 | |
so the last thing you need | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
is to suddenly find that all is not what it seemed with your new home. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
Especially if, as a result, you're going to end up out of pocket. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
Coming up, | 0:01:42 | 0:01:43 | |
the energy efficient homes costing their owners the earth. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
Over Christmas it very quickly became £10 a day. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:51 | |
And the choice was, we eat or we keep warm. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:56 | |
And we're on the road and on the case, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
solving more of your problems at our pop-up shop. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
Here's a problem that already quite a few of you have told us about, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
but it is possible that a lot more of you could be affected, too. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
Brand new homes right across Britain have been fitted with | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
a system that its makers describe as, "The most efficient | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
"and cost effective way to heat a home." | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
Well, if that's the case, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
why are some of the people who have this system | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
being sent electricity bills that are hundreds of pounds higher than they expected? | 0:02:27 | 0:02:32 | |
Which means, in the case of the family that we're about to meet, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
having to choose between paying for food or keeping warm. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
Loves Farm is a 160-acre, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
affordable housing development in rural Cambridgeshire. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
An idyll for eco-friendly living. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
At least, that was the idea. | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
Come on then. What pieces can we find? | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
Samantha Claussen, her construction worker husband | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
and their children were some of the first to move in, in May 2010. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:03 | |
They were delighted at the prospect of living in their brand new energy-efficient home, | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
which they rent from a housing association. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
Well done! | 0:03:10 | 0:03:11 | |
We'd been repossessed in our previous home due to the recession, | 0:03:11 | 0:03:15 | |
so to be offered this house on this new estate | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
was a dream come true for us. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
With another child on the way and the family counting every penny, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
there was one particular feature of the house that seemed especially appealing. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
We were told we had a great heating system | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
that was going to be economical, | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
and it was going to be green, which was perfect. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
We had a report telling us that it was going to be around £500 a year | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
for our heating and hot water. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
It couldn't have been better really. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
And you can see why she'd think that. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:50 | |
The Energy Performance Certificate that came with the house | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
couldn't have been clearer about how much they could expect to pay. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
So, there was no need for the family to dread the arrival of their first electricity bill two months later. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:05 | |
Or so they thought. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
When our first electricity bill came through for £252 - | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
that was for just under two months - we were horrified. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
At that rate, in another two months | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
their electricity would have cost them | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
well over what they'd been told they'd be paying for the whole year's supply. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:24 | |
Not quite as friendly, either to the environment or their pocket, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:28 | |
as they'd been led to believe. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
So why were their bills so much higher than predicted? | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
Sam's house, like the rest of the estate, | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
was fitted with a heating system made by a company called NIBE. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
Called an exhaust air source heat pump, | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
it replaces the need for a gas boiler, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
but performs the same function using electricity instead of gas. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:52 | |
It works by taking the heat from the waste air leaving your house | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
and then pumps it back into your home | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
to help provide heating and hot water. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
Very clever. And, all being well, extremely energy efficient. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:07 | |
But Sam's certainly wasn't. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
She spoke to her housing association | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
who arranged for an engineer to visit. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
The engineer came out to see us | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
and he told us that our ducts in the ceiling, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
which recycle the warm air, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
were not open properly and therefore not working. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
At first, it seemed the explanation was that their eco-efficient system | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
had not been set up properly and, as a result, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
the family's bills were almost four times higher than expected. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
So, with the problem seemingly solved, | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
Sam was reassured that she'd soon be getting much smaller bills. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
We set our direct debit for around £75 a month | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
and we felt that would more than cover what we needed. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
But an unexpected call from her electricity company | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
soon proved that the problem had not been resolved at all. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
Sam was told that her direct debit was not covering her costs | 0:05:59 | 0:06:04 | |
and, in fact, she was building up a big debt. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:08 | |
We owed in the region of £1,500. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
Our only choice was to pay half of that or go on a key meter. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:16 | |
Once we were put onto a key meter it became absolutely clear | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
that this system was far from economical | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
and was, in fact, costing us a fortune to run. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
Soon, Sam was struggling to keep with her bills | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
and was forced to make some very difficult decisions. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:33 | |
Over Christmas, it very quickly became £10 a day, | 0:06:33 | 0:06:38 | |
and I was horrified. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
In fact, when I realised this, I turned our heating off | 0:06:41 | 0:06:45 | |
and the choice was, we eat or we keep warm. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:51 | |
And across the estate | 0:06:51 | 0:06:52 | |
other residents were facing similarly tough choices. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
Their houses had also been fitted with the same apparently energy-efficient heating system, | 0:06:56 | 0:07:02 | |
yet they too were being hit with huge energy bills. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
Instead of saving them money, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
the heating system was actually costing them a lot more. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:10 | |
Most estates, people talk about the weather, daily things. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
On this estate, we all talk about the NIBE boilers. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
It's very expensive, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:17 | |
it doesn't do what it's supposed to do, to be honest. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
I've ended in tears, plenty of occasions, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
on the phone to my electric company when they're saying, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
"You've got to pay this," and I'm saying, "I physically can't." | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
In the system's user guide, | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
manufacturers NIBE say that it's designed to run 24 hours a day, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:36 | |
which is the most efficient and cost-effective way to heat a home. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:40 | |
That's why it's become a popular choice with developers, | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
who are now legally obliged to make new-build houses more green. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
So how could a system that's supposed to be more economical | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
instead be forcing people into debt with their energy providers? | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
Experts who've looked at this system have told us | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
that its main pump simply is not big enough to heat most UK homes. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:04 | |
As a result, its back-up immersion heater can kick in. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:09 | |
And though that's only supposed to be used sparingly, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
in the homes of Sam and her neighbours, | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
it seems to be doing most of the job. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
Using much more electricity and causing very high bills. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:22 | |
So why did the housing association | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
agree to this system being fitted in the first place? | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
NIBE came down, did presentations to our technical staff, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
provided us with comparable information of how their system costs | 0:08:31 | 0:08:37 | |
weighed against conventional electric and gas systems, | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
gave us examples of heating bills from the system | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
which was claimed to already be in use, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
all of which was quite convincing. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
And it's just that the subsequent experience of our tenants | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
was that none of this was the case. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
The housing association is so concerned about the effect | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
that all of this has had on residents like Sam, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:01 | |
it's paid out over £45,000 so far, to help with their high bills. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:07 | |
We understand that our residents are very angry, in some cases, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
about the experiences that they've been through | 0:09:12 | 0:09:14 | |
because of the NIBE system and rightly so, frankly. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:19 | |
We as a housing association are very, very frustrated | 0:09:19 | 0:09:24 | |
that our residents have had to experience all of this | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
and that it has taken far too long to get it resolved | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
with NIBE and with the contractors. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
We spoke to manufacturer NIBE. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
And they told us that though they're concerned | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
to hear about individual cases where consumers are unhappy, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
there are many thousands of exhaust air heat pumps in use across the UK | 0:09:43 | 0:09:49 | |
and independent research shows them to be both effective and economic. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:54 | |
As far as they're concerned, | 0:09:54 | 0:09:55 | |
any problems are almost always due to poor specification, | 0:09:55 | 0:10:00 | |
installation or maintenance, and not the systems themselves. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
NIBE are adamant that they did not give the housing association | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
any information as to the expected running costs of the units | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
and they thoroughly reject any allegation of misrepresentation. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:18 | |
They say they were given the wrong specifications | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
for around 12 properties at Loves Farm, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
and that residents were not trained in using the system. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
So, while they don't consider themselves responsible, | 0:10:27 | 0:10:30 | |
they say they are working hard | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
to ensure these problems are resolved quickly. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:36 | |
Meanwhile, the development company that installed the NIBE system at Love Farm | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
agrees that not all were correctly fitted | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
and says that they're pursuing every avenue to find a satisfactory solution. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:49 | |
-Where's the digger? -There. -Well done. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
For Sam, that can't come soon enough. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
Already struggling with the effects of this for the last two years, | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
she's desperate for it to be sorted out before another winter comes. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
We have had to make stark choices between heating and other costs. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:11 | |
We have other bills that we've had to pay later. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:16 | |
We have small children who deserve to be warm and have hot water | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
and that's not something I have always been able to provide for them | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
and that's not right. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
Well, later in the programme, we'll be visiting another estate | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
that's had exactly the same problem | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
and discovering what happened there when the residents decided | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
that, frankly, they were not prepared to put up with it any longer. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:39 | |
Next, a couple who had a plan to create a house with a difference | 0:11:42 | 0:11:46 | |
in one of the most beautiful parts of the country. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
But after they chose one particular company to help, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
not only has their grand design come to nothing, | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
they've ended losing tens of thousands of pounds. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
The isle of Gigha off the west coast of Scotland may be cut off from the mainland, | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
but nowhere is too remote to end up losing your money. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
As Tony Philpin and his partner Jayne have found out | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
after coming up with an ambitious plan to completely change their life. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
Well, we decided that in 2005/2006 | 0:12:19 | 0:12:24 | |
that the entire life savings | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
were going to be put into a sort of fairly major project | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
to build ourselves a sustainable house. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
They'd build that sustainable house from a kit | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
which would be sent to them to construct on site | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
once they'd laid the foundations. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
Utility in here. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
Jayne and Tony knew the project would involve hard work and dedication. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:48 | |
But the prospect of creating an eco-friendly home | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
in such a beautiful setting made that all seem worthwhile | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
They thought they'd found the perfect company to help them realise their grand design - | 0:12:57 | 0:13:03 | |
the Glasgow-based SIPit Scotland. | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
They'd make and store the kit off-site, | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
while Jayne and Tony worked on the foundations on-site. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
But after two years of planning, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
when they finally came to sign the contract, | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
they noticed the company name was slightly different. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
We had been dealing with SIPit Scotland for a couple of years | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
and then discovered when it came to the contract stage | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
that we were dealing with the Sip Construction Company. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
The couple spoke to the company director who reassured them | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
that, though SIPit Scotland had now ceased trading, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
the new company would complete the job in the same way. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
So Tony and Jayne agreed to pay £55,000, | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
with the first 10% due immediately. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
But bad weather soon caused their on-site preparations to be delayed. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:53 | |
We had the worst winter here for, I think, 60 years, | 0:13:53 | 0:13:58 | |
as some of our older friends were telling us, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
and that meant that we basically couldn't do any work on-site for six months. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
But that didn't mean the whole project needed to be held up. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
The agreement had been that the SIPit Construction Company | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
would make the kit at their headquarters, | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
and keep it there till it was needed. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
So the couple paid the next £20,000 instalment, | 0:14:19 | 0:14:23 | |
confident things were still on track | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
and that they could concentrate on getting the foundations ready. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
The couple's preparations were complete. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
The company's boss, Tim Allan, visited the site | 0:14:33 | 0:14:37 | |
to check the logistics for delivery | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
and Tony and Jayne paid another £16,000 ready for that to happen. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:45 | |
As soon as he'd received our 16,000 payment, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
he became extremely difficult to get hold of and we rang, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
emailed and tried ringing his mobile - no reply. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:59 | |
we spoke to his assistant on several occasions. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
But then on 4th December, they received an email and text | 0:15:02 | 0:15:07 | |
scheduling the first delivery for the very next day. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
This has got to come down. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
When the first parts of the kit arrived, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
the couple were surprised that there appeared to be pieces missing. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
But it was another delivery four days later | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
that really upset Tony and Jayne. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
We had a late post on Friday and Tony was in the yard | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
and I just looked and I just thought, "Oh, my god!" | 0:15:27 | 0:15:32 | |
and just shouted to him that this letter from the accountant | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
said that he had ceased trading. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
So Tony and Jayne haven't got their house | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
or the money they handed over for it | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
and it seems there's not a lot they can do about it. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
When a company like this stops trading and has no assets, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
it means creditors like Tony and Jayne are unlikely to get their money back. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
And because their contract was with a private limited company | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
and not an individual, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:02 | |
they can't pursue the company director for it either. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
It's left us feeling that the law, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
which should protect us, has actually sold us down the river. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
We contacted Sip Construction's managing director, Tim Allan, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:20 | |
who says the company had to cease trading after incurring | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
numerous bad debts during extremely poor economic trading conditions. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:28 | |
He was unable to raise further funds to allow the business to continue, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
but says he fully appreciates the implications of all this | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
and is extremely disappointed not to have had the opportunity | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
to work on this project | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
through to completion. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:41 | |
He disputes details of what Tony and Jayne have told us, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
for example about being hard to get hold of, but hasn't made clear | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
whether the remaining parts of the house were ever constructed. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
It's been such hard work so I feel so cheated | 0:16:53 | 0:16:59 | |
that we can't go much further. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
We've lost over £30,000 from our life savings. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
Now, where do you make that up at our age? | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
Well, if you're handing over large sums of money, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
whatever they're for, | 0:17:14 | 0:17:15 | |
think about whether you'll be protected if things go wrong. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
Remember that paying with a credit card can help with that. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
And if you're dealing with a smaller company | 0:17:23 | 0:17:25 | |
whose name isn't familiar to you, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:26 | |
if you can, do your research before handing over your money | 0:17:26 | 0:17:30 | |
so you find out everything you need to know before it's too late. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
Still to come, a quiet cul-de-sac with beautiful views. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:40 | |
So what's made some of the people who've moved here | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
now wish that they hadn't? | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
We felt devastated. All this, um... It just upsets me. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:51 | |
We're here at the Metrocentre in Gateshead | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
where, for one weekend only, we've set up our very own pop-up shop. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
Well, when we say shop, we're not actually selling anything. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
It's more like a kind of clinic for consumers with problems. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
And you know what the great thing about this is? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
That we get an opportunity to meet all of you face to face | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
and, where possible, solve your problems on the spot. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
That's good advice, thank you. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:23 | |
That is definitely the thing to do, and that should solve your problem. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
Ann Marie and her mum have popped in for some advice | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
from telecommunications expert Dominic Baliszewski. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
They thought switching broadband companies would be hassle-free, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
but have been left waiting for an authorisation code | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
from their existing provider. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
We asked for it about two or three months ago, if not more. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
Nothing's coming through, and we're just getting sick of it now. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
They actually are obliged to give it to you within five working days. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
What you need to do is contact your provider. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
I would do it by writing, | 0:18:54 | 0:18:55 | |
because you're going to have a record of it then. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
And quote that and say, "You are obliged to provide me | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
"with this within five days." | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
There's a standard letter on Ofcom's website - | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
they're the industry regulator - that you can use, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
you can download and you can send it in. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
If you still have problems, you can contact the industry regulator. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
Every provider has to be registered with one of the two of these, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
and they'll be able to step in and resolve this for you. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
Thanks very much. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
When you're buying a new house, | 0:19:23 | 0:19:25 | |
you really don't want any nasty surprises later. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
Which presumably is why you pay to have a survey done, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
so that you can find out the worst | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
before deciding whether or not to go ahead. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
Well, this next couple did exactly that. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
But even so, there were still serious problems | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
that only crawled out of the woodwork after they'd moved in. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:48 | |
Debbie and Martin Hope like getting their hands dirty. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:54 | |
So when they were looking for a new home, they wanted a project, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
a place they could look forward to doing up themselves. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
And they soon found the perfect place. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:06 | |
What attracted us to the house | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
was the fact that it was an older style property rather than a modern property, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:12 | |
so it had character, which is really lovely. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
It felt comfortable. We had lots of space, a big garden. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:19 | |
It was probably my ideal home. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
Excited at the prospect of moving in, the couple | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
were ready to get a survey done to identify potential problems. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
That's important enough with any home, but vital | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
with an older house like this one. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
When I was looking for a surveyor, I checked a few out on the internet | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
and I came up with one that had a good read-up. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
Debbie and Martin felt reassured by the website | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
of the company that they found, which, as well as making | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
big promises about their skills and service, | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
also proudly displayed the logo | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
of the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
He was RICS registered and offered a specialised service | 0:20:57 | 0:21:03 | |
for older properties, which was exactly what we needed. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:08 | |
We opted for a RICS survey because we thought at the end of the day | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
they would be some form of come-back had there been a problem. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
Being registered with RICS means a commitment | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
to the highest professional, technical and ethical standards. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
Confident they'd found the man for the job, | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
Debbie and Martin booked the company's full survey and report | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
at a cost of £646.25. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
I didn't want any surprises, really. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
We just wanted some guarantees that, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
although there might be some work to do, it wouldn't be too much. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
When the survey came back, while making clear it was not | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
a definitive statement of every single defect, | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
it didn't give Debbie and Martin too much cause for concern. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
It did highlight a number of issues, including | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
damp at ground-floor level, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
although the survey said this was not necessarily | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
something to be particularly worried about. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
A beetle infestation was described as extensive, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:12 | |
but relatively easy and inexpensive to put right. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
And though the survey stated that the house needed | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
quite substantial refurbishment, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
it said there was nothing seriously wrong with the property. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:26 | |
So Debbie and Martin bought it. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
But before long, they wished they hadn't. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
We first discovered there was a problem | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
when we had people round to put the central heating in. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
When the plumber was installing the pipework, | 0:22:38 | 0:22:42 | |
he was notching the joists out, and the joists were crumbling away, | 0:22:42 | 0:22:47 | |
turning into dust. One of the joists | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
actually completely disappeared up the hoover. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
It was quite frightening to actually see it happening | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
in front of your eyes. I couldn't believe what was going on. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:59 | |
The survey had been correct | 0:23:01 | 0:23:02 | |
when it said there was extensive insect infestation. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
But when it suggested that treating it | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
would be a precautionary measure and relatively inexpensive, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
it does seem to have rather underestimated the problem. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
All the joists in the whole house have got to be removed and replaced. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
All the lintels that are above the doors and windows | 0:23:22 | 0:23:26 | |
have all got to be replaced. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:27 | |
The whole lot's got to be done. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
After spotting other issues that worried them, | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
Debbie and Martin called in another surveyor, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:36 | |
Nick Datson, to take a look. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
And he's come back to explain what he found. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
When I conducted the survey at Debbie and Martin's house | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
I found three main issues which should have come up on any survey. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:52 | |
The first one was the front wall was bowing, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
not to a fantastic degree, but it was bowing, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
which could indicate a lack of lateral restraint to the front wall. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:02 | |
The second issue was that the rear bedrooms | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
have falling floors into the centre of the room. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
Neither of these issues was mentioned in the original survey. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
In fact, it said that the floors were reasonably sturdy and flat, | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
although also stressed that floors are | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
one of the hardest areas to comment on, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
because the presence of furniture and carpets | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
means that defects may be hidden from view. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
And the third thing that most worried Nick | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
was the damage caused by that infestation. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
When I conducted my survey, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:37 | |
Martin showed me a piece of wood from the floors | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
where we're standing, | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
and it was riddled with woodworm, which would alert the surveyor | 0:24:42 | 0:24:47 | |
to a problem, potentially, with the joists, if it's in the floor, | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
and this could lead to certainly a heightening of your awareness | 0:24:52 | 0:24:57 | |
that there might be a problem of a bigger nature | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
than you can possibly see at present. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
And he thinks the same about the damp. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
So how much does Nick reckon all this would cost to put right? | 0:25:05 | 0:25:10 | |
From my assessment of this property, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
the cost implications for Debbie and Martin | 0:25:12 | 0:25:14 | |
could be in the region of £30,000 to £40,000. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:20 | |
I don't know how we are going to afford it all. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
I don't know what we're going to do. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:23 | |
I really don't know what we are going to do. | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
We made the decision to buy the house | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
on what was told us in the survey. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
Had the survey told us the problems that we've recently found, | 0:25:33 | 0:25:39 | |
we would never have bought the house. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
Debbie and Martin also discovered that, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:45 | |
despite what they'd read on the company website, | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
their surveyor was not registered | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
with the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors after all. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
Which means that, not only was the reassurance | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
they'd got from seeing that logo misplaced, | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
but because the institute does not regulate non-members, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:06 | |
there was very little they could do to sort things out. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Once we'd informed RICS that the surveyor we had employed | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
wasn't actually a member and got them to double-check it, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:17 | |
they told us they would deal with it | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
and make sure that he didn't use the logo any more, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
but there was nothing that they could do to help us other than talk to him. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:26 | |
When we contacted the company who did the survey, | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
they said there will always be restrictions that apply | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
to the practicality of doing the job, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
and that it's often only | 0:26:36 | 0:26:37 | |
when the property has been opened up after purchase | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
that the significance of expected defects can be refined. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
They say, in this case, the subsequent problems | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
were outside the scope of the survey, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
so it is unfair to say these should have been spotted. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
They insist that the report | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
was done totally professionally, thoroughly and diligently, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:02 | |
and was explicit about the condition of the building, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
the limitations of the survey, and the need for obtaining quotations | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
before proceeding with the purchase. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
They disagree with the comments made by surveyor Nick Datson, | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
and say that as they were clear | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
that the property needed a lot of work, | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
Martin and Debbie should have had | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
a contingency fund for unexpected items. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
And as for the logo of the Royal Institute of Chartered Surveyors | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
that was on the surveyors' website? | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
Well, we spoke to RICS, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:33 | |
who confirmed that any company displaying their logo | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
must have at least one employee who is a current RICS member. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
And whilst this firm of surveyors did at one time have this, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
when they carried out Debbie and Martin's survey, they didn't, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
and therefore should not have been using it. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
Although this logo has now been removed, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
it's too late for Debbie and Martin. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
For them, that logo gave them confidence | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
in the surveyors that they picked. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
A confidence they now feel was misplaced. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
I've been in tears before, and you've sort of said, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:10 | |
"Come on, we'll be fine. We'll get through it," | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
but, yeah, it's really upsetting, really upsetting. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
Earlier in the programme, we heard from families whose new homes | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
had been fitted with a heating system which they'd hoped | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
would bring their bills down, | 0:28:27 | 0:28:29 | |
but in fact turned out to be pushing them up, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
so much so that some of them told us that they had to make | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
tough decisions about whether they could afford to keep warm. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
Well, that same heating system | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
has been installed in new estates across the country, | 0:28:39 | 0:28:43 | |
and one has already been forced into taking drastic action. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
The 69 houses here on the Castlefields Estate in Runcorn | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
are among thousands of new homes across the UK | 0:28:53 | 0:28:55 | |
fitted with what sounds like an ingenious way to heat your home - | 0:28:55 | 0:29:00 | |
an eco-friendly system that, if used correctly, | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
can lead to significant savings in heating costs. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
So why are these homes having them all ripped out? | 0:29:10 | 0:29:14 | |
When Karen Gerrard moved into her new house here, | 0:29:16 | 0:29:21 | |
the idea of paying less for her energy | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
was a huge part of the appeal. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:24 | |
I couldn't wait to get a house and a garden, cos I want to start a family, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
and when we heard about the energy efficient and the solar panels, | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
I thought, "Well, it's a bonus. It's going to be cheap to live there." | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
That was certainly the idea. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
Designed to provide affordable and sustainable housing, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
the homes on the estate were kitted out | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
with what's called an exhaust air source heat pump system. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
Made by the Swedish company NIBE, | 0:29:47 | 0:29:49 | |
it's exactly the same heating system we heard about | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
earlier in the programme on an estate in Cambridgeshire. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
And here in Runcorn, | 0:29:54 | 0:29:56 | |
some residents started experiencing the same problems. | 0:29:56 | 0:29:59 | |
Instead of saving money as they'd expected, | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
Karen and others began receiving huge energy bills. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
Karen was told her electricity would cost around £320 a year. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:11 | |
But in fact, her bills added up to £1,200. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
I thought, "How are we going to pay that?" | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
I thought there must have been a mistake, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:19 | |
so we phoned the electric company | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
and they just didn't even care, really. They just wanted the money. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
Just over the road, Denis Cullen, who pays monthly, | 0:30:24 | 0:30:29 | |
had also received a bill that was higher than expected. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
I had got a bill for £88, which I thought was a bit extortionate, | 0:30:31 | 0:30:38 | |
and I was used to a £50 bill. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
As far as the heating would go, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
I was told this property would be approximately three times cheaper | 0:30:44 | 0:30:50 | |
than any other system. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
And it's because it's considered so cost-effective | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
that over the last six years, | 0:30:55 | 0:30:56 | |
an estimated 15,000 of these NIBE systems | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
have been fitted in homes across the country. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
But here at Rip-Off Britain, we've heard from desperate residents | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
on estates up and down the UK who've told us that | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
their eco-friendly heating has done the opposite of what they'd hoped | 0:31:09 | 0:31:13 | |
and pushed their bills up instead of down. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
So what's gone wrong? | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
Geoff Morgan is an independent heating engineer. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
He says that the system is at its most efficient | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
in homes with a very high standard of insulation, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
which is much more the case in Sweden, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:31 | |
where NIBE is based, than in the UK. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
In a home that isn't insulated so well, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
the system's heat pump may have to work overtime - | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
forcing it to rely on the expensive back-up immersion heater. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
When these are used in Sweden, | 0:31:43 | 0:31:45 | |
the heat losses of the houses | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
are much, much less, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:50 | |
and the heat pump does a much bigger job, | 0:31:50 | 0:31:52 | |
and the immersion heater does a very small amount of topping up. | 0:31:52 | 0:31:56 | |
So in the homes that we've heard about, | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
a system that residents had hoped was energy efficient | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
has turned out to be totally inefficient, | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
racking up huge bills in the process. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:07 | |
On the Castlefields Estate, the level of complaints | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
led housing association Plus Dane | 0:32:13 | 0:32:14 | |
to try to get to the bottom of what was going on. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:18 | |
But that meant upheaval and uncertainty for residents. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
Different people were telling me different things all the time. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
We had loads of fellas down from, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:25 | |
I think Sweden, I think they came from, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
saying we were using it wrong, | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
and they put meters in every bedroom | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
and laptops everywhere and wires everywhere. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
In May 2011, a lifeline was thrown to the residents. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
Plus Dane said that though they didn't accept liability | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
for all this, they would pay their electricity bills | 0:32:44 | 0:32:47 | |
from the time they'd moved in five months earlier. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:49 | |
It was a huge help. But it didn't solve the problem. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
The bills were still coming in high. I was saying, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
"What are you going to do about these bills?" | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
In December 2011, after a year of sky-high bills | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
and at the start of another winter, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
the housing association decided to take more drastic action. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:09 | |
We were called for an emergency meeting, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
and within ten minutes, the manager | 0:33:11 | 0:33:17 | |
that was sent from Plus Dane | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
had agreed that by spring 2012 | 0:33:20 | 0:33:26 | |
the NIBE systems would be taken out. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
Agreeing the system didn't seem to be performing | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
the way it was supposed to, in March this year, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
Plus Dane started ripping out all the estate's NIBE heat pumps, | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
replacing them with standard gas-fired combi-boilers. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
Although cheaper for the residents to run, | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
that came at a cost to the housing association of £145,000. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:50 | |
And that was on top of the money | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
they'd agreed to compensate each household | 0:33:52 | 0:33:54 | |
until the system was replaced. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
It's a huge relief for residents like Karen. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
I'm so made up that we won't get all these big bills coming in any more. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
It was stressing us out trying to find money to pay the bills. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:08 | |
It was terrible. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:09 | |
The housing association's | 0:34:09 | 0:34:11 | |
told us they're negotiating with all parties involved | 0:34:11 | 0:34:13 | |
to see how they can recover their costs. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
They say all the indications had been that these systems | 0:34:18 | 0:34:21 | |
would perform well and achieve the low energy ratings required, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
but the costs were considerably more than the manufacturer claimed. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:30 | |
Meanwhile, Geoff Morgan is concerned | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
that some of the other 15,000 households with the NIBE system | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
may also be paying a high price | 0:34:37 | 0:34:39 | |
for what they thought would be a low-cost energy solution. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:43 | |
All sorts of people have been persuaded | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
to use these systems in the belief they are low running cost. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
At the end of the day, the systems, quite simply, | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
have not produced the expectations of running costs. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
But manufacturers NIBE told us they don't promote their systems | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
on the basis of cost saving, | 0:35:01 | 0:35:03 | |
although they insist big savings can be made | 0:35:03 | 0:35:05 | |
when it's installed and used correctly. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:07 | |
They disagree with the opinions of Geoff Morgan, | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
saying there is ample independent research demonstrating | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
the efficiency and effectiveness of this system in the UK, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:18 | |
and point out that they're one of Europe's leading suppliers | 0:35:18 | 0:35:20 | |
of heating systems and a leader in renewable technologies. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
They reiterate that when problems occur | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
it's almost always due to | 0:35:28 | 0:35:29 | |
poor specification, installation and maintenance, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
and that residents are often not shown | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
how to use the system properly. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
They've suggested incorrect usage | 0:35:37 | 0:35:39 | |
was a particular problem on this estate, and as such, | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
the systems didn't need to be removed. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
But residents like Denis | 0:35:47 | 0:35:48 | |
say they wish they'd never had it in the first place. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
Somebody somewhere agreed to buy a system | 0:35:51 | 0:35:56 | |
which they believed would be right for the tenants. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
In fact, the system was completely the opposite. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
If you were choosing what you'd want from your dream home, | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
I think a lot of us would put peace and quiet | 0:36:09 | 0:36:11 | |
and a beautiful view right over countryside | 0:36:11 | 0:36:13 | |
at the top of our wish list. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
Well, this next group of neighbours were all lucky enough to find that. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
So why just ten months after moving in | 0:36:19 | 0:36:21 | |
are they now desperate to sell up and move on? | 0:36:21 | 0:36:25 | |
Millbrook Meadows. An idyllic new housing development | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
in Axminster, East Devon. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
For some of the people who live in this sleepy cul-de-sac, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
it's the uninterrupted views of the countryside that make it special. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
In fact, the Reverend Geoff Walsh says it was one of the main reasons | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
that he and his wife moved here in January 2011. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
My wife and I were delighted to be able to find this house here | 0:36:52 | 0:36:55 | |
in a quiet cul-de-sac with the open views | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
and the play area for our grandchildren | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
when they visit, cos now we've got 15. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:04 | |
Their neighbour, Pat Bullock, who moved in six months later, | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
is among others on the estate who'd say the same thing. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
I moved here in July 2011. My daughter lives down here, | 0:37:11 | 0:37:15 | |
quite close, and I saw this property and immediately liked it. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
It's got lovely views, top of a cul-de-sac, top of a hill, | 0:37:19 | 0:37:22 | |
and it's really nice. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:23 | |
So these residents were horrified to discover in February | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
how much all of that was about to change. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
The housing developer Wainhomes was going to build more homes | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
right in front of theirs, obstructing their cherished view. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
And their quiet road was going to be altered in other ways, too. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
It was only in February of this year | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
when the sales office opened, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
we discovered that it was all going to be happening | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
and our cul-de-sac was going to be used as a through road | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
and our green area for the children to play on | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
was going to be built on with more houses. | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
We felt devastated. We had chosen this house | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
because of the views and the quietness | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
and the access for the grandchildren and the facilities. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:10 | |
The residents contacted their local planning office, | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
who confirmed that a development of 98 properties | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
was to be built on the land directly in front of them. | 0:38:18 | 0:38:21 | |
I moved to be in a quiet end of a cul-de-sac, lovely view, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
but it's now going to be completely different. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
It's really going to destroy the quality of life we have at the moment. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
It was peaceful and quiet, and now it's going to be | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
a totally different situation, which I feel very, very let down about. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:38 | |
So why were the residents so surprised about all this? | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
Hadn't the plans been flagged up when they were first considering buying their homes? | 0:38:41 | 0:38:46 | |
Yes, they were, says the developer, Wainhomes. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
No, they weren't, say the people we've spoken to. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
Or at least, not in a way that meant they understood the full extent | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
of the future development and what that might mean for their homes. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
I was told there would be some building, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:02 | |
but it wouldn't be in my line of vision, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
and I was quite happy with that. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
When big changes happen to where you live, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
the effects could be way beyond what you see through your window. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:13 | |
Estimates we've seen suggest that | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
a house with uninterrupted views like this | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
could be worth anything between £14,000 and £34,000 less | 0:39:18 | 0:39:23 | |
once that view has gone. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
Although that's not what bothers the Reverend Walsh. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
He's more concerned about what the view is worth to him now. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
When I retired here, I just wanted to relax and enjoy it, | 0:39:33 | 0:39:38 | |
and so all this, um... It just upsets me. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:45 | |
The developer of Millbrook Meadows, Wainhomes, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
told us that they've always provided home buyers | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
with enough pre-purchase information | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
to help them make a suitably informed decision | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
to purchase a property. | 0:39:57 | 0:39:59 | |
In this case, after talking to the sales representatives involved, | 0:39:59 | 0:40:03 | |
they believe they gave reasonable notice | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
and correct advice as regards | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
what building work may be undertaken | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
and what road layouts may be changed, | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
and there's no evidence to suggest otherwise. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
They're happy to explore with residents any concerns, | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
but are confident buyers were expressly told | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
that future development would occur. | 0:40:21 | 0:40:24 | |
But to avoid this sort of confusion, it's crucial | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
that when you buy a home you ask all the right questions, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
and not just from whoever is selling it to you. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
As property lawyer Andrew Garvie explains, | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
there's plenty you can try and find out yourself. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
If you're buying land or a building | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
that has open space near to it, | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
raise this with your solicitor at an early stage. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
Have them make an enquiry, speak to your solicitor about searches, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:55 | |
what searches you might think are appropriate, including a local search. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
Perhaps a planning search, which might tell us more | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
about a radius around the property itself. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
Think about contacting the local authority yourself. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
Speak to a planning officer. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:07 | |
Perhaps access the local authority website. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
A five-minute job could save you a lot of heartache. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
Meanwhile, back at Millbrook Meadows, | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
some residents say if they'd realised there would be new houses | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
obscuring their view, they'd never have bought here in the first place. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:23 | |
I feel absolutely gutted by it. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
It's a totally different environment to that which I moved in. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
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It should be simple, you know, ABC, you know, very basic stuff. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
Unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out | 0:41:49 | 0:41:52 | |
and that great deal has ended up costing you money? | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
You get home, you get your bill and it's like £70 | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
when it's meant to be £35. | 0:41:58 | 0:41:59 | |
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