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We asked you to tell us who's left you feeling ripped off. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
And you contacted us in your THOUSANDS. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
By post, e-mail, even stopping us on the streets. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
And the message couldn't be clearer. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
I think there's a lot of hidden information about your bills | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
that should be made a lot more clear. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
I don't feel I get treated how I should be. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
You've told us, with money tighter than ever, | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
you need to be sure that every pound you spend is worth it. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
How do I get my money back, cos I just think I'm entitled to it. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
So whether it's a deliberate rip-off, a simple mistake, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
or a catch in the small print, we'll find out why it is that | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
you're out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
Keep asking the questions, you know go to the top if you have to. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
We do get results, I mean, that's the interesting thing. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
Your stories. Your money. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:51 | |
Hello and a huge welcome to Rip-Off Britain, | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
the series that fights your corner, when you're feeling | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
well and truly ripped off - which is especially the case with | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
some of the people we're going to be hearing from today. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
And that's because of the fact that they have ended up hundreds | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
of pounds out of pocket when it's absolutely not their fault. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
Now, none of us likes losing money at the best of times, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
but when it's all down to the fact that someone else has messed up, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
well, that really does make it worse, don't you think? | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
Sure does, and while we all make mistakes good customer service | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
is about putting those mistakes right. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
But as we'll see, too often that doesn't happen. | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
And even though it's someone else who's to blame it's YOU that | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
ends up paying the price. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
Coming up. How two of the biggest names on the High Street | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
managed to lose almost £1,500 of one customer's money for an entire year. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:40 | |
It's just draining. You have to spend so much time | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
and so much effort actually having to chase money that they | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
should have paid into the correct account to start with. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
The credit mix-up that's left this woman with no identity | 0:01:50 | 0:01:54 | |
and chased for massive debts that she simply doesn't owe. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
There's times that I haven't slept, because it's worrying, | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
you know, I just haven't known how to clear my name. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:05 | |
And we open our doors to try | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
and solve some of your problems on the spot. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
We declare our pop-up shop open! | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
Anyone who has bought or sold a home will know that it's usually | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
considered right up there with bereavement and divorce | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
in terms of stress. Even if things are going well, there's a constant | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
fear that it will all go wrong and fall through at the last minute. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
Which is why you rely so heavily on your solicitor to make sure | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
that every last piece of information and paperwork is in place, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:35 | |
so that the sale goes ahead smoothly. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:38 | |
But the devil is in the detail and if some of that detail is missed | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
the effect can be devastating, as this next couple found out. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:46 | |
With her children grown up and having flown the nest, | 0:02:49 | 0:02:52 | |
Chris and her husband decided to sell their home | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
in the south of England and move back to Chris's hometown | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
in Lancashire. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:58 | |
We thought, "We'll go there." | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
We can afford to pay cash for a nice little bungalow, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
nothing extravagant, just what suits our needs. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:10 | |
So five years ago, in 2007, they put their house on the market, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
and within weeks not only had an offer on it, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
but also found themselves a bungalow to move into. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
All was going well. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
The people wanting the house were coming round, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:25 | |
measuring up for curtains and carpets, like you do. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
They'd even planned where the Christmas tree was going. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
But then came the news that any house mover dreads. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
The buyers were pulling out. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
My first reaction was numb, I just couldn't take it in, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:47 | |
because my husband had just given his notice in, so he had no job. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
I just felt... I was gutted. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
I just can't find the words to express how I feel. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
I felt as if I'd been dealt a great big hefty blow. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
What made it worse was the discovery that the sale had fallen through | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
because of an extraordinary complication with the title deeds | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
of Chris's property - one that would put off most other buyers, too! | 0:04:14 | 0:04:19 | |
Because, although they'd known nothing about it till now, | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
the deeds contained two clauses - the first forbidding them | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
to sell the house without their next door neighbour's permission, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:29 | |
and the second saying any structural changes to the home would | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
have to be agreed by the neighbours as well! | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
So, technically even if they wanted to knock a wall down inside the house | 0:04:36 | 0:04:41 | |
they'd need to go next door to check that was OK. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
This is why the people pulled out of buying the property, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
because they weren't prepared to take the house on | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
with those restrictions on, which is fair enough. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
We wouldn't have taken it on if we'd have been told about it. | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
It emerged that Chris's house was built on land | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
which originally belonged to next door. And when the land | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
had later been divided up, the correct details weren't added to the Land Registry. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:13 | |
And though that sounds like a minor detail, it's caused Chris | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
a major problem and made her house extraordinarily difficult to sell. | 0:05:16 | 0:05:21 | |
She couldn't understand why her solicitors hadn't picked up on | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
these restrictions on the deeds when she bought the house 12 years ago. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:28 | |
So she asked them. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
He admitted they're wrong, he's admitted they could've been corrected | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
and they admit that basically I've been badly served. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:40 | |
An opinion shared by an independent solicitor | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
who we asked to look at Chris's case. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
I feel very sorry for these people. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
The firm should have picked up on this and advised them | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
and dealt with it accordingly at the time when they bought the property. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
For Chris, the fact that they didn't has had far-reaching consequences. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:59 | |
Not only has she paid other solicitors £1,250 in failed attempts | 0:05:59 | 0:06:06 | |
to get the problem sorted, she feels she's stuck in a house | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
she can't sell and can no longer afford to stay in. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:14 | |
Running costs are a lot higher here in this house than they would be | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
if we'd moved to where we wanted to go. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
My husband could've retired, whereas now he's forced to work. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:25 | |
We feel robbed. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:26 | |
Chris's former solicitors did offer to handle a future sale for her | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
free of charge - and offered her £485 compensation. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:37 | |
But Chris doesn't think it's nearly enough considering everything | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
she's gone through. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
I couldn't believe it! | 0:06:43 | 0:06:44 | |
I thought at first there was a few noughts missing. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
It's an insult. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
We contacted the solicitors in question and though they accept | 0:06:51 | 0:06:54 | |
they made a mistake which they could have corrected, | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
they don't believe it should have created the problems it has | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
because, as far as they're concerned, it could easily have been rectified | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
by the solicitors who Chris was using to sell her home. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
But when we contacted that firm of solicitors, they disagreed, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
saying that though they tried to fix all this, they couldn't. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
None of which is any help to Chris who wants the situation | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
finally put right. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:22 | |
Because although the restriction on her selling the house | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
has now been lifted, the one saying alterations | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
need to be run past the neighbours remains in place, | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
leaving her feeling she's paid a high price | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
for someone else's mistake. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
They're the legal profession. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
It's their job to know what all this is about, what conveyancing's about, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
what those words on those papers mean. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
We paid them good money to read that and to act in our best interest. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:53 | |
They didn't. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
Now, changing the subject, here's a question for you - what's in a name? | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
Well, quite a lot if you end up in the same horrendous position | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
as our next viewer. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
Now many of the things that most of us just take for granted, | 0:08:04 | 0:08:07 | |
even something as simple as buying a telephone, she just can't do. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
All because her name has been muddled up with somebody else's. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:15 | |
Susan M Brown couldn't get a mortgage. Her store card applications were turned down. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:24 | |
And even getting a mobile phone contract was impossible. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
I'm quite an independent person | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
so not being able to get a mobile phone and not being able, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
you know... Even if I wanted to get a credit card, I couldn't. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
And like, the car, we've had to do that | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
in my husband's name and, you know, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
it's everyday, little things that people take for granted. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:45 | |
Susan had lost her identity. And it's all because of her name. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:53 | |
It is very frustrating, it makes me really angry at times as well | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
and I have got upset at times, there's times that I haven't slept | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
because it's worrying, I just haven't known how to clear my name. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:06 | |
Susan's troubles began seven years ago, when her name changed. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:11 | |
I got re-married. Before that I'd been Susan Margaret Eamus | 0:09:11 | 0:09:16 | |
and I married in May 2005 and became Susan Margaret Brown. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
In January 2007 I had a letter from Dorothy Perkins saying that | 0:09:20 | 0:09:28 | |
I owed nearly £500 pounds. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
As she'd never even had a Dorothy Perkins store card | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
this really baffled Susan, and of course she just threw the bill away. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
She assumed it was simply a one-off mistake. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
Then about a month later I had a letter from a debt collection agency | 0:09:40 | 0:09:46 | |
saying that I owed nearly £15,000, which as you can imagine | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
was quite a shock and, you know, a lot more money. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
So I rang them and they said, "Oh, yes, sorry we've been given | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
"the wrong details, it was Experian that gave us your details, | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
"you need to contact them and let them know | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
"that they've made a mistake," which, you know, is what I did. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:09 | |
It appears that this Susan M Brown's credit file had been muddled | 0:10:09 | 0:10:14 | |
with another Susan M Brown's file. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
Experian, which is Britain's biggest credit reference company, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
worked alongside Susan to clear her file, | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
and advised her to contact the other credit reference companies. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
And while at first this did seem to help the problem, I'm afraid, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
soon returned. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
At the beginning people said, "Oh, yeah, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
"sorry, we've got the wrong person, and so therefore | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
"we'll take your address off file," but then it continued. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
However hard she tried, she just couldn't convince everyone | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
that she was a different Susan M Brown to the one they thought. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
The problem that I faced is that the lady that owes the money, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
we share the same date of birth. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
We found 484 Susan M Browns on the Electoral Roll, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:03 | |
but by sheer fluke the two that have been mixed up | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
just happened to share the same birthday. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:08 | |
Determined to clear her name, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
our Susan M Brown went to great lengths to prove who she was. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
There was a consumer advice guy that I went to and he advised that | 0:11:17 | 0:11:22 | |
I changed my name by deed pole to Griffith-Brown, which is what I did. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
But that hasn't made any difference. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
The letters are still coming through | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
and in fact people have said that it's an alias, | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
it's an alias that I use and I'm trying to hide behind another name. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
I went to Citizens Advice. They just gave me a print out of things to do. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:45 | |
But on there it said that I could give a notice of correction | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
to Experian and Equifax which is what I did. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:52 | |
I typed a letter and just said, "You've got your facts wrong." | 0:11:52 | 0:11:55 | |
I've sent them photocopies of my birth certificate, | 0:11:55 | 0:12:00 | |
my marriage certificate, you know, all the documents I've got, | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
proving who I am and I've sent that to numerous debt collection agencies. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:09 | |
And the whole sorry saga was even affecting her marriage. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
David was even doubting me, thinking that I did owe this | 0:12:14 | 0:12:18 | |
amount of money and that I hadn't been honest to him | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
about how much debt and everything I was in. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
So yeah, that was tough, that's a real tough thing to face. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
And the demand letters just kept on coming. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
I was threatened with either arrest or bailiffs, and then you | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
start to think, "Well, actually this is not going to go away." | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
There was a time when I had a solicitor who wrote to me | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
and said that they were going to attach litigation | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
to me and to my property. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
I've had letters saying that they're going to bankrupt me, you know, | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
it's been quite a horrible journey really. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
So, 5 years down the line, still battling to prove who she is, | 0:12:55 | 0:13:00 | |
Susan contacted Rip-Off Britain for help. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
On her behalf, we again got in touch with Experian, | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
to find out why this problem just won't go away. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
Certainly, as far as your Experian report's concerned, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
there's no longer any confusion, there's no data on there | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
about the other person. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
Of course, some of the organisations that are still looking | 0:13:19 | 0:13:23 | |
for their customer might still have your details and as a result, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
you know, might still be getting in touch or even passing those | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
details on to other organisations that they're working with. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
But James says that there is an organisation that might | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
be able to help - the Credit Services Association, or CSA. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:40 | |
They will look into any malpractice that's alleged | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
against their members and they'll take that very seriously. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
If you're still being contacted and, as I say, the organisations | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
aren't listening to your very clear information | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
they've got the wrong person, then certainly, I'm sure the trade body | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
would be, very interested to have a look at that for you. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
I now know that there is somewhere else I can go, and hopefully, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:04 | |
if I report all the issues that I've had to them, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
that will be an end of this situation. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
The Credit Services Association told us they're working to resolve | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
Susan's case and their members are "Sorry for any distress caused." | 0:14:17 | 0:14:22 | |
They say cases that like this are uncommon but by no means unique | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
and they're trying to find a permanent solution to this issue. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
It's robbed me of my identity and, you know, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
I'm seen as somebody who has bad debt and somebody not to trust | 0:14:34 | 0:14:40 | |
and that's hard, that's tough to live with that. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
Well, we're keeping everything crossed that Susan's problems | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
will now finally have come to an end, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
and she won't have any more of all this in the future. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
In the meantime our website | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
has tips on how to check your own credit history. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
Our next case study, Len Kelundra, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
is the kind of loyal customer that most companies absolutely love. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
He's been with his phone company BT for over 30 years now, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
so you'd think that they'd want to keep hold of him at all costs. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
But his recent experience of their customer service has meant | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
that his previously steady relationship with them | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
is now looking just a bit shaky. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
As the ads say, "It's good to talk" and with so many friends | 0:15:31 | 0:15:36 | |
and relatives abroad, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:37 | |
Len Kelundra spends a lot of time on the phone catching up. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
He talks to people in Sri Lanka. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
In India. And sometimes in Malaysia. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:49 | |
So what's your plan? | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
So to make all of that cheaper, he took out | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
BT's International Freedom Package, which for an extra £5 a month | 0:15:53 | 0:15:58 | |
gave him 600 minutes to talk to his friends around the world. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
I can't afford to be without the International Freedom package | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
because it will be very expensive to be in touch with my family. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
Happy with the phone tariff that he was on, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
Len wanted see how BT measured up in other areas. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
So he signed up for one of their broadband packages | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
after being offered three months for free. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
BT contacted me several times boasting about their BT Infinity package | 0:16:22 | 0:16:29 | |
and it's much better for the price I'd pay. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:36 | |
They said I'd get a better speed and better performance. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
So Len signed up to an 18-month BT Infinity package, including | 0:16:41 | 0:16:46 | |
broadband, and he thought, keeping his International Freedom add-on. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:51 | |
And after being a customer for nearly 30 years, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:55 | |
he expected the same reliable service that he was used to. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
I was depending on BT to provide a very good service for me | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
and also they said that this will have no impact on any of my other | 0:17:02 | 0:17:07 | |
services that I have. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
But it did. Len's direct debit suddenly rocketed | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
from £41 to £183 per month. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
And due to ill health he didn't check his first quarterly bill | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
as thoroughly as he normally would have done, so it wasn't until | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
his next bill arrived three months later that he spotted the increased cost. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:32 | |
I noticed that BT was charging me for the international calls | 0:17:32 | 0:17:37 | |
which is supposed to be free with the International Freedom package. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:42 | |
I was very stressed and worried about why this has happened. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:48 | |
And no wonder. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
Over the last eight months, Len's international calls had | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
cost him a total of £409, whereas normally, apart from the £5 a month | 0:17:54 | 0:18:00 | |
Freedom Package fee, those same calls would have been free. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:05 | |
Len rang BT to find out what was going on. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
They said when the BT Broadband Infinity package was installed | 0:18:09 | 0:18:14 | |
there was a system error and they struck my International Freedom | 0:18:14 | 0:18:19 | |
calls due to the system error, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
and they were charging full rate for my international calls. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
So if Len's International Freedom package had been | 0:18:26 | 0:18:31 | |
removed by mistake when BT set up his broadband surely | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
that would be easy enough to sort out? | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
And at first it seemed that the answer was yes. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
They said they will refund the money. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
Relieved, Len sat back and waited for the money to arrive. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:47 | |
And then after few weeks nothing happens, then I call again. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
And they say to hold the line for a long time and then they say, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:58 | |
the problem was due to the system error and they will sort it out. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:04 | |
But again Len heard nothing more and the problem wasn't sorted. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
So he rang BT back and this time he got to speak to a manager. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
He apologised and he said this is their mistake | 0:19:13 | 0:19:18 | |
and they will sort it out, let me investigate the bills. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
And he asked me to hold the line, | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
I was holding the line for a long time, for more than hour. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
The line got cut off. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
Infuriatingly, Len spent a lot of time over the next few days | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
listening to BT's hold music. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
Over the last few months Len has made more than twenty calls | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
to them to sort his problem out and twice been put on hold | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
for more than an hour and then cut off. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
It keeps on going like this, the problem of contacting BT, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:55 | |
it's horrendous. I wanted to scream! | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
In their company report BT pledged that... | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
But, that was NOT Len's experience. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
From the telephone calls I was not getting anywhere. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
So then I decided to write to BT and send an email to them. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:19 | |
And almost two months since he'd first complained | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
Len got a resolution - although it wasn't the one he was expecting. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:27 | |
BT now said they WOULD NOT be refunding | 0:20:27 | 0:20:32 | |
his international calls as he hadn't notified them of the extra charges straight away. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
It makes me very angry because I never asked them to cancel | 0:20:37 | 0:20:42 | |
my International Freedom package and they never asked me | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
and they never said it's been cancelled | 0:20:46 | 0:20:49 | |
so I can't understand why this is my mistake. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
I feel that BT doesn't care about me | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
We put that to BT and they apologised for | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
the "disruption and poor service" that Len suffered | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
after they accidentally cancelled his International Freedom package. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:10 | |
They've now reinstated him on it | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
AND they've given him a full refund | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
for the international calls | 0:21:14 | 0:21:15 | |
that he was charged while he was without it. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:19 | |
But Len still feels let down by the company that he's been loyal to for so long. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:26 | |
I've been faithful to them for nearly 30 years. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:29 | |
So I would expect the same thing from a service provider - | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
to be faithful, to provide a good service to me. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
If you think that you've been left out of pocket by a mistake | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
that a company has made, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:44 | |
or indeed if you feel that your complaint is being ignored | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
then here are just a few tips on how you can make your voice heard. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:52 | |
The first thing to do is to complain directly to the company. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
So I recommend you either write to them or send an e-mail | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
and keep a copy of the correspondence. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
It's important that when you complain you're very clear | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
about what's gone wrong and what you want the company to do right. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
Make sure that you're calm, clear and logical | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
and tell them what you want by the way of compensation | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
if you want any compensation at all. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
If you're not getting anywhere | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
then ask if your complaint can be referred up. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
If you're doing this in writing, say that you want it dealt with | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
by somebody who's senior in customer services. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
If you're dealing with somebody on the phone then insist | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
that you're not just passed from one call centre person to the other. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
See if you can speak to a supervising manager. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
If you're sending follow-up correspondence | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
to see how the company's dealing with your complaint then keep copies. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
And if you're phoning them, make sure you keep a record | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
of who you spoke to, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:49 | |
when you spoke to them | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
and what they said. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:52 | |
Most companies these days | 0:22:52 | 0:22:53 | |
record their phone calls | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
and that could be useful for you | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
if there's a dispute later on about who said what. | 0:22:57 | 0:22:59 | |
If you're still getting nowhere, it may be time | 0:22:59 | 0:23:02 | |
to refer your complaint to one of the ombudsman. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:04 | |
It's free to complain | 0:23:04 | 0:23:06 | |
and the ombudsman can force companies to pay you compensation. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:10 | |
Another route is using social media such as Facebook and Twitter. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
Quite a lot of companies have people monitoring | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
Facebook and Twitter comments and you may find you get a speedier result | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
than going down a traditional route. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain... | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
How a mistake by the DVLA left this driver off the road | 0:23:28 | 0:23:32 | |
and hundreds of pounds out of pocket. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
It was extremely frustrating and very upsetting | 0:23:35 | 0:23:39 | |
because it restricted almost everything one did. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:43 | |
We've opened our very own pop-up shop | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
at the Metro Centre in Gateshead... | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
We declare our pop-up shop open! | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
Overnight, we've transformed this space | 0:23:57 | 0:23:59 | |
into a one-stop consumer advice centre. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
Hello, how are you? | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
So we can try and solve some of your problems face to face. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
-Is this your good lady? -Yes, it is. -Hi. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
For one weekend, our team of experts is inside, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
ready to offer practical advice on a variety of consumer issues. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
Gemma popped in to see personal finance expert, Sarah Pennels, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
after a mistake by her bank, when she switched accounts, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
left her out of pocket. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:27 | |
-Fire away, Gemma. -When I changed my bank account over | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
and changed where my wages were going to be going, | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
they took all the direct debits out of the wrong account. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
I was then charged by the mortgage company for a missed payment. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
I'm worried now there's going to be something on my credit rating. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
Well you said you've already made a complaint to the bank | 0:24:42 | 0:24:45 | |
so I think you have to wait for up to eight weeks | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
while they work out what, if anything, they're going to do, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
and if they don't offer to pay back the £42 that they've charged you | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
then I would go and take the complaint | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
to the Financial Ombudsman Service which is free to use. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
But I think more importantly, | 0:24:58 | 0:24:59 | |
you do need to get hold of a copy of your credit reference file, | 0:24:59 | 0:25:03 | |
just to make sure that that payment that was late | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
that wasn't your fault isn't marked down there. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:07 | |
Because if it is, that could cause you some problems. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
-Yeah. -If you look at your credit file | 0:25:10 | 0:25:12 | |
and you see something there that you think is not just, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
what can you do about it? | 0:25:15 | 0:25:17 | |
If you think the information isn't correct | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
then you've got the right to dispute it and basically you should contact | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
the credit reference company concerned, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
tell them what you think is wrong and they've got 28 days | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
to either get back to you and tell you, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
"Yes we'll remove this disputed mark, "No, we won't and here's why," | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
or, "We need longer to look into it." | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
You know we don't care whether your consumer problem is big or small. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:41 | |
-We just like to hear about it, right? -Absolutely right. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
And I can tell you that our gripe box is just the place | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
to get it all off your chest. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
I'm really annoyed about the price of fuel. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:50 | |
It's ridiculous as to how expensive it is. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
Car insurance is an absolute disgrace. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
I paid £2,200 for my first year's insurance | 0:25:56 | 0:25:58 | |
and that's just a total rip-off. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
I've come to complain about the high prices that holiday companies | 0:26:00 | 0:26:05 | |
charge during the school holidays. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
I feel that the pensioners in this country are getting ripped off. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:11 | |
But one pensioner determined not to get a raw deal is Norman. | 0:26:11 | 0:26:15 | |
Norman, it seems to me | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
that you're someone who's got an eye for a bargain | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
but it sounds as if you very nearly got caught out by an optician. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
Tell me what happened. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
Well my wife and I decided to go and get new spectacles. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
We saw an advertisement for a company offering 25% discount | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
for pensioners who went in and purchased on their quiet days. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
So the assistant chose my wife's spectacles | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
and she eventually decided on two pair. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
So the girl immediately got the calculator out | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
and said it wouldn't be any benefit, the pensioner's discount. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
How much the spectacles would have cost you | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
with your 25% discount "special" for pensioners | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
and how much it would have cost you if you didn't have the 25%? | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
Well If I had the 25% discount for pensioners | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
and had insisted on that, they would have cost me £215. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
If I didn't have the pensioner's discount | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
and went in as a normal member of the public, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
-they would have cost £198. -Crikey! | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
It sounds very strange | 0:27:14 | 0:27:15 | |
and I'm sure it's something | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
Trading Standards would want to look at. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
If you're being offered a discount, you shouldn't pay more | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
than the people who aren't being offered the discount. | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
This a story where it really is "Read the small print" and "Buyer beware." | 0:27:24 | 0:27:28 | |
When you feel you've had a raw deal, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:33 | |
it can be hard to know what to do or where to turn. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
So to help you we've put together a new booklet | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
full of practical tips and advice. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
You can download the free guide on our website. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
Or to receive a copy in the post, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
send an A5 stamped and self-addressed envelope | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
to the address that we'll give you at the end of the programme. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
Now, we hear a lot of examples of frustrating customer service, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
but here's one that really takes the biscuit. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
It all started with, as their own ads might say, | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
"Not just a mistake but an M&S mistake." | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
And it's been compounded by the people that, "Promise you extra." | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
The Halifax. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:16 | |
But in this case, the "extra" is confusion. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
Between them, two of the best-known names on the High Street | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
have created a situation | 0:28:22 | 0:28:23 | |
that's left Natalie Harvey hundreds of pounds out of pocket. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:27 | |
And neither seems able to put things right. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
It's money they can't afford to be without. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
But for almost a year now, through no fault of their own, | 0:28:40 | 0:28:42 | |
Natalie Harvey and her family have been out of pocket by £1,456. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:48 | |
I literally was running backwards and forwards | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
between Marks and Spencers and Halifax, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
with both of them saying, "I don't know where your money is." | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
I have to watch every single penny. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:58 | |
So £1,400, not having in my account, | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
is a significant amount of money for bringing up my family. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
The trouble dates back to May 2009, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
when Natalie cancelled her car insurance policy | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
with Marks and Spencer after an accident. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
My car was written off. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
So...I sent all my documentation off that I needed | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
to send to Marks and Spencers to cancel my policy | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
and as far as I was concerned my policy should have been cancelled. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:27 | |
But it wasn't and because Natalie's premiums | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
came out of an account she rarely used, she didn't notice that M&S | 0:29:30 | 0:29:34 | |
continued to debit that account for a further two years. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
It's an account that I use purely for my son, | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
just for his birthday parties, school uniform. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
I don't get bank statements and it's just a case of, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
I look online every now and then to just see how much is in there really. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
When I finally realised, I was absolutely shocked. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
Natalie immediately contacted M&S, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
who told her they had no record that her car was no longer in use | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
and she'd need to contact the DVLA to get the documents | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
to prove it had been written off. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
Which she did. | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
Once they'd received the documentation, | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
they did, finally, admit that they were at fault | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
and they shouldn't have taken the payment. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:16 | |
Once M&S had the proof they needed, | 0:30:16 | 0:30:18 | |
they agreed to refund Natalie the money they'd taken in error. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
I was over the moon. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
I was so pleased because over the two years the total had come to £1,400. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
What I'm going to do, count to ten, you've gotta hide | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
and I'll come and find you. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
BUT two months went by and Natalie still hadn't received the refund. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
So she called M&S again. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
The good news was they insisted they HAD refunded the money. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:44 | |
But the BAD news was they couldn't confirm exactly | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
into which account they'd paid it. | 0:30:47 | 0:30:48 | |
And they couldn't give her many clues. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
They couldn't give me the name of the card, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
the bank detail, the branch or anything. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
Rather than refund the money to the account they'd regularly used | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
to take Natalie's premiums, M&S said it had gone to one | 0:31:02 | 0:31:05 | |
she'd used four years ago to make a one-off payment. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
But those last four digits were the only thing | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
they could tell her about it. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:12 | |
Marks and Spencers literally left the detective work up to me | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
to try and track down the account that it was actually relevant to. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
So I literally had to do all the digging about myself. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
Natalie checked all her bank accounts, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
but the money wasn't there. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:29 | |
And when she couldn't find any card ending with those four numbers, | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
she went back to M&S. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
Who suggested that maybe they'd sent the money to an account | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
that was now closed. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:40 | |
And if that was the case, the bank who had it would return it to them | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
but that process would take six months. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:47 | |
When they told me I had to wait six months, | 0:31:47 | 0:31:50 | |
I did think it was ridiculous. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:51 | |
But nonetheless I did wait six months and I called them back | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
for them to simply tell me that the money hadn't been returned, | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
so I must have it. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:00 | |
Natalie assured M&S that, no, she still hadn't received her money, | 0:32:01 | 0:32:06 | |
and persuaded them to investigate further. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
It's just draining. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:10 | |
You have to spend so much time | 0:32:10 | 0:32:12 | |
and so much effort actually having to chase money | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
that they should have paid into the correct account to start with. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
Meanwhile, Natalie had a breakthrough, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
when she finally found the bank card | 0:32:21 | 0:32:23 | |
ending with the four digits M&S had given her. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
It belonged to a Halifax account | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
that had been closed since December 2008. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
But unfortunately, that wasn't the end of the matter. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:35 | |
I think last I spoke to her, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
she listened back in to my phone calls? | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
When Natalie contacted Halifax, they couldn't find the money either. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
They basically told me that no money had come in or out, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
it's a closed account | 0:32:48 | 0:32:50 | |
and that the money must've been returned to Marks and Spencers. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:55 | |
Halifax said that to trace the payments, | 0:32:55 | 0:32:57 | |
they'd need some extra information. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
So Natalie contacted M&S to get a unique code | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
called a transaction sequence number, | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
which both they AND the receiving bank would have. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
But within a week, Halifax had some bad news. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:12 | |
The branch manager said that, "That particular account was closed | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
"and no money had come in and no money had come out" | 0:33:17 | 0:33:19 | |
and that she couldn't trace them at all. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:22 | |
Increasingly frustrated, Natalie went back to M&S | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
to say the numbers they'd given her HADN'T helped locate the money. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
All they could do was reiterate that the money HAD been sent to Halifax. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:34 | |
With neither M&S nor Halifax able to locate her money, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:39 | |
and Natalie stuck in the middle of it all, she got in touch with us | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
to see if we could help. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
And surprise, surprise, that's done the trick. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
Both M&S and Halifax agree that the delay in resolving this case | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
has been "unacceptable", and that the standard of customer service | 0:33:53 | 0:33:57 | |
has been below their expectations. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
And not only have they apologised to Natalie | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
and refunded ALL the money she's owed, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
but they've given her compensation | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
for the inconvenience she experienced. | 0:34:07 | 0:34:09 | |
But Natalie still doesn't understand why it all took so long. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:14 | |
It is not acceptable for a refund to take a year to get back. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
It's just absolutely ridiculous. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
It should take... It literally should take a matter of minutes or days. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:27 | |
Now driving isn't always just about getting from A to B. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:34 | |
For some of us, it's a necessity. For others, it's a pleasure. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:37 | |
Either way, finding yourself without a licence, | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
let's face it, is a big deal. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
And when that's because of an error that should never have happened - | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
well, you can imagine not just the inconvenience, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
but the utter frustration. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
So put yourself in the shoes of 83-year-old Alban | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
driven to distraction by the consequences of a careless mistake | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
that cost him, not just his independence, | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
but an awful lot of money as well. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
Driving tests were first introduced in Britain back in 1935. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:10 | |
And since then, more than 98 million people have taken their test. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:14 | |
Amongst them, 83-year-old Alban Pearson. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
Now to say that he enjoys driving would be an understatement. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
He's been doing it most of his life. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
I've been driving since 1946. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
Prior to that, off-road in the fields with tractors. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:35 | |
Went into the forces at 21 after an apprenticeship. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
One of activities I did there - I trained a lot of drivers. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
I did a little competition driving both on motorcycles and cars. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:47 | |
Alban's driving skills are still very much in demand. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
His friends rely on him, for example, for a lift to their bridge games. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:57 | |
Come wind, rain or shine - he's there, he picks us up | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
-and he's really, really good, isn't he, Margaret? -Yes. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:05 | |
-We don't know what we'd do without him. -Of course. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
Alban's pride and joy - his beloved Rolls Royce. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
A very stylish Silver Spirit. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
And he was looking forward to a very special opportunity | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
to put it to good use. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
The pending wedding of my grandchild, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:24 | |
we'd arranged to have me drive our Rolls, | 0:36:24 | 0:36:28 | |
which they'd looked forward to and I was going to ferry them | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
to and fro and certainly I was looking forward to that day. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
But unfortunately, that was not to be! | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
All UK drivers over 70 have their licence reviewed every three years. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
Now as part of that, the government licensing authority, | 0:36:44 | 0:36:48 | |
the DVLA, can also request an eye test. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
They did that with Alban last year. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:54 | |
And when he'd been to the optician, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
the results were sent on to the DVLA. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
When they wrote back, Alban couldn't believe his eyes. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:06 | |
Because the DVLA were saying that following the eye test | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
they were taking away his licence. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
Well, I was astounded really because the letter indicated that | 0:37:12 | 0:37:17 | |
I needed to be able to read a car number plate | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
at something like 20.5 metres. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
This is something I had no problems with | 0:37:22 | 0:37:24 | |
and my eyes had been monitored for a number of years. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
Good number of years now. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:29 | |
Baffled, Alban paid out of his own pocket | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
for ANOTHER eye test with a consultant. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
He passed and immediately let the DVLA know. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
It turned out that THEY had made an error | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
with Alban's first eye test and although they admitted that | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
and apologised for taking away his licence, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
it took a full five months for him to get it back. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
It was extremely frustrating and very upsetting | 0:37:53 | 0:37:58 | |
because it restricted almost everything one did | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
and obviously we were very upset at not getting, you know, | 0:38:02 | 0:38:07 | |
a good response from the DVLA with regard to it. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
So through no fault of his own, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
not only was Alban unable to do the driving at his grandson's wedding, | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
but for months the DVLA's mistake stopped him | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
from doing ANY driving whatsoever. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
I think it's unfortunate that whoever is dealing with it | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
at the DVLA doesn't put themselves | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
into the position that I found myself in. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
It meant that you were constricted in a way | 0:38:32 | 0:38:34 | |
that was like putting a fence round you, really. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
The friends who relied on Alban to ferry them around | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
were also left stranded. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:43 | |
It was devastating for him, wasn't it? | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
It was stressful and I think he really felt it. | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
And there wasn't just an emotional cost. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
Over those five months, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:55 | |
Alban drove up quite a few financial losses as well. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:59 | |
Including £314.70 | 0:38:59 | 0:39:02 | |
for car insurance he couldn't use. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
£175 for road tax. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
And £320 to hire another car for the wedding. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
And by the time he'd added up all his costs, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
including that second eye test and a solicitor's bill for legal advice, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:21 | |
Alban estimated he was out of pocket by a total of £1,500. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:26 | |
So he asked the DVLA to give him that back. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
After all, THEY had made the mistake. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
We had only asked for | 0:39:32 | 0:39:35 | |
that we considered was an absolute direct consequence | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
of the action of the DVLA and, you know, | 0:39:38 | 0:39:42 | |
didn't really allow for all the trauma and the consequences | 0:39:42 | 0:39:48 | |
of not being able to drive on, you know, more normal occasions. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
But when the DVLA responded they offered Alban £700 - | 0:39:52 | 0:39:58 | |
less than half of what he felt he was due. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:00 | |
For them to offer half that, again is, you know, | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
some indication that they didn't understand | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
and appreciate the consequence of their actions. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
We contacted the DVLA, and they told us they're | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
"sorry for the error that was made", but point out that they | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
"Handle around 700,000 medical cases a year | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
"and mistakes are extremely rare". | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
And when mistakes DO happen, they insist they correct them | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
"As quickly as possible". | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
As for the amount of compensation- after we got in touch, | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
the DVLA upped their offer to £1,000, which Alban has now accepted | 0:40:33 | 0:40:38 | |
and he's absolutely delighted to be back on the road. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
Oh, I'm very happy to be driving again, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
I would never want to have that same experience again | 0:40:44 | 0:40:46 | |
and certainly my good ladies that I pick up for the bridge club | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
appreciate the fact that there isn't a problem again | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
and certainly it's a big relief. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
A big relief. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:56 | |
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we're always ready to investigate more of your stories. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:06 | |
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Unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out, | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
and that "great deal" has ended up costing you money? | 0:41:21 | 0:41:24 | |
You get home, you get your bill and it's like £70, | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
when it's meant to be £35. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
And it's just basically, you just get ripped off, don't you? | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
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So as we've heard today, when you're paying for somebody | 0:42:10 | 0:42:14 | |
to do a good job on your behalf, it can be incredibly frustrating, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
not to mention seem very unfair, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:19 | |
when it's YOU left counting the cost of THEIR mistakes. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
And it's all the more maddening | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
when something that you'd hoped could be sorted very quickly | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
actually takes months, or maybe even longer, to sort out. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
Now, I know it can seem a very daunting task | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
when you're taking on big companies, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:37 | |
even though YOU are completely in the right. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:39 | |
But there IS help out there, so don't give up! | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
And remember, if you don't get resolution, | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
or you feel you're getting a raw deal, come to us. | 0:42:44 | 0:42:47 | |
In the meantime, thanks for joining us, and until next time... | 0:42:47 | 0:42:50 | |
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