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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling ripped off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
and you've contacted us in your thousands. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
You've told us about the companies that you think get it wrong | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
and the customer service that simply is not up to scratch. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
People should expect more when they pay for something these days. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:17 | |
Everything you buy, I just think we are getting ripped off. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
and investigate the extra charges you say are unfair. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
You have to rely on them giving you a fair price for something, you can't always rely on that. | 0:00:27 | 0:00:32 | |
You don't want more hassle. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:33 | |
You want them to honour their agreement with you. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
And when you have lost out but no-one else is to blame, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
That is disgusting! | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
So whether it's a blatant rip-off or a genuine mistake... | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
..we're here to find out why you are out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:53 | |
Your stories, your money, this is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
Hello, and welcome to Rip-Off Britain - the programme | 0:01:00 | 0:01:03 | |
that's here to arm you with all the information | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
you need to keep your hard-earned money SAFE. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
So that when you spend it, it's going exactly where you think it is, | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
rather than straight into the pockets of a person or | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
company that ISN'T what they seem. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
But I'm afraid we'll be hearing plenty of examples of how | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
your money has gone astray, just simply disappeared - | 0:01:19 | 0:01:23 | |
because today we're looking into some of the latest scams | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
you've been telling us about. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
And they're scams that are all very, very different | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
but with one thing in common - whoever was behind them had gone | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
to great lengths to come up with all too plausible scenarios that may | 0:01:33 | 0:01:38 | |
have sounded convincing, but in fact, were an absolute tissue of lies. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
And, sadly, that's only come to light too late. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
Because the scammers really do make sure that the stuff they | 0:01:45 | 0:01:48 | |
come out with - either in person, or online - seems to be genuine. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
Which is why the people who've ended up losing money didn't always | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
question what they were being told. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
But the situations that they've found themselves in could very easily happen to you. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
So, do listen out for everything that you're going to need to know about how to avoid being taken in! | 0:02:02 | 0:02:08 | |
Coming up - stolen identities and broken hearts. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
We track down the men conning women like this out of a fortune. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
You are part of a scam and you are now trying to extort another £550 from her. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:22 | |
What do you say to that, US Army man in Malaysia? | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
And one of the most brazen scams you'll ever hear - | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
the delivery men who look the part, but steal your stuff. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
In the line of work that we're in, it might be naivety | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
but you just don't expect something like this to happen. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
If I was to tell you that there's an elaborate scam in operation | 0:02:44 | 0:02:48 | |
that has so far has taken in an estimated quarter of a million victims | 0:02:48 | 0:02:54 | |
who've sometimes lost thousands of pounds. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
They're all ages, they're male, they're female, | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
they're from all walks of life, and all parts of the UK. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
Now you'd probably think I was talking about bank fraud or ID theft. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:08 | |
Well, I'm afraid you'd be wrong. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
Online dating is booming. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
In fact, it's estimated that one in five relationships worldwide now start online. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:25 | |
But how can you be sure the person you're getting to know is telling the truth? | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
Now, you might be able to forgive the odd little fib here and there, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:35 | |
but when the new love in your life is lying about their name, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
where they live - indeed, lying about their entire identity - | 0:03:39 | 0:03:44 | |
instead of falling head over heels in love, you could actually be falling | 0:03:44 | 0:03:49 | |
headlong into a very sophisticated and expensive scam. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:54 | |
'Ann is worried that she might be doing just that. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
'Like a fifth of all online daters, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
'her new love interest asked to borrow money.' | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
Ann met "Scott" in December 2013 on an online dating site. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
He told her he was an American serviceman on a top-secret mission in Korea. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
All we did was just talk, generally talk. | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
-That appealed to you, did it? -It did. It did. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
It just appealed to me that...just to have a general chat to somebody. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
Basically, I have no confidence in myself so it was | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
so nice to let somebody see my personality | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
and to find that their personality seemed compatible. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
Over the next few weeks the relationship blossomed. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
Have you actually spoken to him or is this all on e-mail? | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
No, all on e-mail. It's all through Facebook and e-mails. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
And then my daughter said to me, "They're all scammers, Mum." | 0:04:42 | 0:04:46 | |
"They're all... They're not who they are." | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
Worried that her daughter might be right, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Ann asked Scott for proof that he was genuine. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
She told him to send her a photo of him | 0:04:56 | 0:04:57 | |
holding a piece of paper with her name written on it. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
The following day, sure enough, Ann received an e-mail showing | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Scott doing just that. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
I did look on the US sites for fraud | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
-and a lot of the reports on there it said to ask for similar sort of proof. -Yes. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:15 | |
But in 99% of cases they don't come up with the proof. | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
-But he came up with the photograph? -He came up with the photo and it was definitely him. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
With that Ann started to trust Scott again | 0:05:23 | 0:05:26 | |
and their relationship developed rapidly. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
I feel sorry for what he's going through stuck over there, | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
he seems a very nice person and I would actually like to meet him. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:37 | |
Within weeks that opportunity appeared to become real. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
Scott told Ann he wanted to release his army pension, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
so he could start a new life with her in the UK. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:48 | |
But he needed to borrow just over £2,000 to pay | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
the bank fees to do just that. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
Believing this was a temporary loan, Ann agreed, scraping together all her savings | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
but within hours, she was asked for a further £550 to cover taxes. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:05 | |
She simply couldn't afford it. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:06 | |
And once again, it made her suspect that Scott might not be telling the truth. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
So let me tell you now what we have been able to find out about Scott. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
-Are you ready for that? -I am, certainly. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
OK. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:17 | |
Now, am I right in thinking this is the photograph he sent to you? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
That's correct, yeah. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
-And that was the proof that you accepted that he was real? -Yes. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
-We've done some searching online. -OK. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
-We found this photograph. -Ahhh...! | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
And as you can see, instead of your name, | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
there's a pint glass with some beer in it. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
And instead of Scott's name... | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
-As all Army personnel have, his name is there. -Right. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
-The name is Massingale. -Right. -It is not. It's not his name. -Right. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:58 | |
-That has been Photoshopped to produce that. -Yes. OK. -OK? | 0:06:58 | 0:07:03 | |
Now there could be a good reason why "Scott's" name | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
doesn't match his uniform. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
But a quick search online found more than a dozen sites ALL with | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
photos of the same soldier, but each with a different name. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
What we have discovered | 0:07:18 | 0:07:20 | |
is that there is a genuine gentleman called Billy Massingale. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:25 | |
-This man. -Yeah. -In the US Army. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
He grew up in North Georgia, he now lives in Redbank where he's married with two children. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
We've been in touch with the FBI. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
We believe that Sergeant Billy Massingale has | 0:07:38 | 0:07:43 | |
-had his identity stolen... -Right, OK. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
..and is being used on all of these websites being several different people. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:52 | |
In fact, these photographs of Staff Sergeant Billy Massingale - | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
who is now retired from the military and has nothing at all to do with | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
the scam - have been popping up all over the world since at least 2009. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
When we tracked him down, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
he was furious that his picture has been used in this way | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
and told us he's found more than 100 fake profiles using HIS stolen photos. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:14 | |
Not only that but he's been pursued by some of the people who've | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
been conned - as well as by private detectives! | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
All this was really hard information to deliver to Ann. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
But I had to give her everything we'd discovered. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
Are you absolutely convinced now that you have been scammed? | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
Definitely. That... That's done it for me. Just that one photo. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:35 | |
Because that was the proof I asked for and... | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
He's stolen your money! | 0:08:38 | 0:08:40 | |
I know. I know. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:41 | |
When Ann transferred the £2,000 that she thought would release Scott's money, she spoke to someone | 0:08:41 | 0:08:47 | |
who said that they worked at the US Army Pay Office in Malaysia. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
When we looked into this number, we found out that it was just | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
a mobile phone, and has NOTHING to do with the US Army. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
'So I decided to see what would happen if I rang it myself.' | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
-'Hello.' -Oh, hi, hello, is that the US Army Pay Office in Malaysia? | 0:09:03 | 0:09:08 | |
Oh, hi, yes, my name is Angela. I am calling on behalf of a great friend of mine. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:16 | |
'It wasn't a great connection | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
'but whoever was at the other end was still sticking to their bogus story.' | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
So you're saying that she's still got to pay that £550 | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
so that Scott's money can go into that bank account? | 0:09:26 | 0:09:30 | |
Yes? | 0:09:30 | 0:09:31 | |
Thank you very much indeed for confirming all of that, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:39 | |
because I have to tell you now, that my name is Angela Rippon. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:43 | |
I work for BBC Television in England, and I've been filming today | 0:09:43 | 0:09:47 | |
with Ann, because we believe that Scott Wilson does not exist, indeed | 0:09:47 | 0:09:52 | |
the US Army have told us they do not have a pay office in Malaysia. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:56 | |
You are part of a scam, and you have effectively stolen already £2,000, | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
and you are now trying to extort another £550 from her. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:04 | |
What do you say to that US Army man in Malaysia? | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
Hello? | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
What do you say to that? | 0:10:15 | 0:10:16 | |
You say what? | 0:10:22 | 0:10:23 | |
PHONE CONNECTION CUTS OFF | 0:10:26 | 0:10:27 | |
You say nothing at all. You put the phone down, because it's a scam. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:34 | |
But Scott Wilson - or whoever was posing as him - and the fictitious | 0:10:35 | 0:10:40 | |
Army Pay Office in Malaysia have already stolen £2,000 of Ann's money. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:45 | |
And she's just one of thousands of people around the world who've | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
had a similar experience. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
In fact, in 2013 more than 2,500 people in the UK alone | 0:10:50 | 0:10:56 | |
told the police they'd been a victim of a romance scam just like this. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:00 | |
On average they lost nearly £9,000 each | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
but one person lost over three quarters of a million! | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
What are the warning signs that people should look for, then, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
to just trigger that moment of doubt in their minds that this is not real, it's a scam? | 0:11:11 | 0:11:17 | |
The second they are asking you for money. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
As soon as they ask for money, the alarm bells should be ringing, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
and certainly if they ask for it to be transferred | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
by money transfer, for example, | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
definitely the alarm bells should be ringing, don't do it. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
'Ann reported her case to Action Fraud, and it will now form | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
'part of national intelligence data into romance scams like this. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
'But her fake suitor hadn't given up yet. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
'Shortly after that call that we made to the FAKE US Army Pay Office | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
'Ann received a text message from so-called Scott acting as | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
'if everything was normal. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
'So we decided to drop him an e-mail.' | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
"So, Scott Wilson, what is your real name? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
"Are you just the front for a scam to get money out of women? | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
"And if so, where is Ann's money | 0:12:00 | 0:12:02 | |
"because she would like to have it back, please." | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
Do you think that will do? | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
-Yep. I think that's fine. -Yeah? Right... | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
'Ten minutes later and we get our reply...' | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
Well, Ann... We've got an answer. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
Let's have a look at the inbox and see what it says. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
"Oh, sorry, what do you mean by that? | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
"How dare you asking me such a question. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
"What is going on cos I don't understand what | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
"you are talking about, OK? | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
"What all that?" | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
Well, clearly English isn't his first language. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
He says, "Yes. Scott Wilson is my name." | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
We know it isn't. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
-Clearly, we know it isn't. -Yep, yep, yep, yep. -He's lying. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
I hope that as far as you're concerned, though, Ann, it is the end. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
Oh, it is. Oh, it is. Yeah, that is it. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
Yeah. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:52 | |
How do you feel now, at the end of all of this? | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
Relieved. Mad, but relieved. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
Out of my hands now, I've got no further doubts, queries. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
I think you've been brilliant at actually being prepared to talk | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
so openly about this, I have to say. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:07 | |
I really do. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:08 | |
And you've put on a very brave face, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
but I think inside you're hurting quite a lot, aren't you? | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
Well, away from here perhaps... | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
but I just don't want it to happen to anybody else. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
Well, we did keep investigating Ann's case | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
and eventually put all of our findings to the man who claimed that he was Scott Wilson. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:28 | |
Now, he didn't reply to us, but he DID try to get in touch with Ann again. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:33 | |
He even asked to come to the UK so that he could prove who he really is. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:39 | |
Can you believe the cheek of the man?! | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
But, happily, Ann is now free of him, though sadly there is no way | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
that she's going to get back any of the money that she lost. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
As you know, on the programme we often say how important it is | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
to check the details of what someone is telling you | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
before you agree to whatever it is they're suggesting. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:01 | |
But it's not always that easy, especially in situations | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
where you're being put on the spot for an instant response, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
and the person that you're dealing with does actually | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
seem to know exactly what they're talking about. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
Well, our next story is a classic example of that - and a rather terrifying one as well. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:18 | |
'It was an audacious scam that would be bad enough whoever was the victim. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:25 | |
'But because it was a charity that was being deliberately targeted, somehow it seems even worse. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:31 | |
'The Hut in York is an activity centre for people with long-term mental health issues | 0:14:33 | 0:14:38 | |
'and learning difficulties.' | 0:14:38 | 0:14:39 | |
'The staff here - including Associate Director Ryan Buglass - | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
'run classes in everything from music and arts, to maths and sewing, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
'and in September 2013, they won funding for brand-new IT equipment.' | 0:14:52 | 0:14:58 | |
We got awarded just under £4,000. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
The vast majority of it was for computer equipment, laptops, | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
iPads, touch screen laptops, to tailor it for some | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
of the members that we have there that can't use the keyboard. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:13 | |
So a few people just wanted to become more computer literate, | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
others wanted to learn how to do internet shopping, | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
others wanted to build web pages. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:24 | |
The charity shopped around and ordered five laptops | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
from online retailer eBuyer. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
And because the Hut isn't open every day, they asked for them | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
to be delivered to the care home they share offices with. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
We have a process in place where one of the members of the care home, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
they check the number of items that are delivered, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
they sign for it to ensure what we've got and then they contact | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
the charity, and a member of the charity comes and collects. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:51 | |
Shortly afterwards, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:52 | |
eBuyer dispatched the laptops with delivery company Yodel, | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
and, as planned, the care home staff counted the parcels, signed | 0:15:56 | 0:16:00 | |
for them and left them to one side until Ryan was back in the office. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
But the next day care home manager Joanne Sellers was at work | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
when the doorbell rang. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
I answered the door | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
and there was a delivery guy stood at the door who said he'd come | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
to pick up some parcels that had been delivered the day before. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
The Yodel driver explained that there had been a mix-up at eBuyer | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
and the wrong packages had been delivered. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
He was here to collect them to send back to eBuyer - and another | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
driver would deliver the correct products in the next 48 hours. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:36 | |
It seemed a little bit strange | 0:16:36 | 0:16:37 | |
because I'd not been told any parcels had been going back. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
So I tried to ring the manager of the Hut and there was no answer. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
But the delivery driver was insistent. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
He said that eBuyer had sent desktop computers instead of laptops, | 0:16:48 | 0:16:52 | |
an explanation that seemed entirely plausible. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:56 | |
The boxes were all different sizes so I would have just assumed | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
that if they were laptops would have all been the same and they weren't. | 0:16:59 | 0:17:05 | |
Which then made me think, "Oh, well, maybe this is right." | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
The driver gave Joanne a receipt and a tracking number, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
and loaded the boxes into his van. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
Joanne passed on what had happened to Ryan - who, at first, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
saw no cause for concern. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
But after the promised 48 hours had passed, there was | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
no sign of a new delivery. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:23 | |
That's when it started to ring alarm bells. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
Yodel had no record of the collection. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
Or of the new delivery that had been promised. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Now seriously worried, Ryan called the retailer, eBuyer. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
And they said there was no discrepancy whatsoever with | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
the items that were delivered, "You got what you asked for." | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
And that's when we really started to panic. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
More than £1,600 worth of computers had been taken. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:49 | |
I obviously felt gutted, I felt devastated - | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
I felt sad for the members down there | 0:17:52 | 0:17:53 | |
because they'd been looking forward to the laptops coming. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
Because the driver had been wearing a Yodel uniform and driving | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
a Yodel van, Joanne had had no reason to suspect | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
that his original story was wrong. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
But she and Ryan now realised that the driver had probably | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
stolen the computers. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:09 | |
And they immediately called the police. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
It was disbelief really, in the line of work that we're in, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:16 | |
it might be naivety but you just don't expect | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
things like this to happen. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
To then turn round to 30-odd people, our members, | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
and tell them that they're going to have to wait | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
because we don't have them any more was a difficult message to deliver. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:34 | |
When we contacted delivery company Yodel about the missing computers, | 0:18:35 | 0:18:40 | |
they told us the company has a "zero-tolerance approach | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
"to breaches of protocol", so once they'd investigated, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
the driver was "dismissed from the business" and the police called. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:50 | |
Yodel also say they're confident this "appears to be | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
"an isolated incident involving a single driver." | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
Retailer eBuyer also told us that this | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
is the first such incident they're aware of. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
They advise anyone buying online to contact their retailer | 0:19:04 | 0:19:08 | |
if they receive any unexpected requests from a delivery company. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:12 | |
North Yorkshire Police later told us they investigated, | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
but no arrests were made, and the case is now closed. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
Whilst this particular scenario - involving a genuine employee - | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
may be unusual, scams involving fraudsters posing as delivery | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
drivers are unfortunately not as rare as you'd hope. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
In fact, the National Fraud Intelligence Bureau says it's | 0:19:34 | 0:19:37 | |
seeing more people fall victim to that sort of crime. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:41 | |
Thanks to the internet, | 0:19:41 | 0:19:43 | |
crooks easily find the details they need to identify potential targets. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
A lot of the courier frauds that we have are actually people who | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
pretend to be courier drivers who are not actually drivers | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
whatsoever, but somehow they've got a high-vis jacket or a fake uniform, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
they're good at what they do | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
and they use that relationship to get into your life. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
The problem is of course they've got a pretty authentic looking | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
van or truck sitting outside, | 0:20:03 | 0:20:04 | |
they've got the high-vis jacket, they've got an identity of some sort | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
so we do tend to get sucked in, don't we? Because it all looks official. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:12 | |
You know, you can't expect people to know if it's a fake lorry or | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
a fake truck and if it's a real uniform and actually finding that | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
out would be quite difficult, but the one thing to do would be to say | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
to him or her, "What company are you from?" | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
"I come from X." "Phone number, please." | 0:20:24 | 0:20:26 | |
You phone the warehouse, "Driver, what's your identity number? | 0:20:26 | 0:20:29 | |
"OK, so I have a driver here, identity number 12345, who is he? | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
"What's he here doing?" | 0:20:32 | 0:20:34 | |
So that's the one thing that you must always do. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
If you don't see an identification number, or they start to act a | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
-bit funny about it, then you should start asking yourself questions. -Close the door. -Absolutely. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
Back at the Hut, Ryan's had to write off the £1,650 he spent | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
on the computers as they weren't covered by the charity's insurance. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
Delivery company Yodel has now bought them | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
five reconditioned laptops - but he and Joanne still can't quite | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
believe how anyone could steal from them in this way. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
I wish I'd done a little bit more or I'd maybe taken | 0:21:05 | 0:21:07 | |
a picture of the guy. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:08 | |
I don't know, I wish I'd done something that would have | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
stopped it from happening really. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
To take advantage of a charity, especially the client group | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
that we care for, vulnerable adults, it's disgusting. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
Still to come on Rip-Off Britain, a property scam that could cost | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
you thousands when you find out the person you rented your flat | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
from doesn't actually own it. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
It's not just the financial implications, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
it's all of the emotional and mental side of it. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:45 | |
You completely lose your faith in everybody. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
Once again our pop-up shop is open for business and this year, | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
we're in the West Midlands. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
Here at Rip-Off Britain you're very kind in sending us lots | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
of stories throughout the year and, by the way, we love receiving them. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
And then once a year we have our pop-up shop and for one weekend only | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
loads of people come and see us here and see our team of experts and you | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
know the great thing about it? | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
They get consumer advice on the spot. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
Cindy Walters and her daughter Abbi have brought along a letter | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
they've received from Spain saying they've hit the jackpot! | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
They don't believe a word of it but are interested to know | 0:22:28 | 0:22:30 | |
what trading standards expert Sylvia Rook makes of it. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
I've brought a letter that I've received this week | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
in the post, claiming I've won the Spanish lottery. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
-Let's have a look. -It tells me that I've won 895,250 euros. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
Congratulations(!) | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
The downside is I have to pay 10% tax. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
And in order to get the money, the tax has to be paid first | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
and I've only got a few days left to claim it. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:56 | |
You know this is a scam, don't you? There are a lot of these scams | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
around and the main principle of these scams is they do get people to | 0:22:59 | 0:23:03 | |
pay money up front. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:04 | |
They say you've won a huge amount of money, send us | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
the tax or import duty or whatever it is and then of course you | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
never get your prize. Do you know how they got your name and address? | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
No, I'm very careful not to list my name | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
and address, I think it might be the electoral register. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
There are two forms of electoral register, there's one that | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
keeps completely private and there's another one that gives your name | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
and address to people, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:26 | |
so you need to make sure you're on the edited roll | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
and that means they cannot pass your name and address on. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
You're not going to try to get your...how much was it, 895,250 euros? | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
-No! -Thank you very much for bringing it in so | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
we get a chance to see it and always be careful about your personal | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
data and if somebody phones you saying that you've won something and | 0:23:40 | 0:23:43 | |
you haven't entered a competition then you know it's a scam. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
Outside the shop in our workshop area, financial ombudsman Caroline | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
Lusted Wells had lots of tips about avoiding credit and debit card scams. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:58 | |
How many people have less than five bank cards that they use? | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
Has everyone got a different pin number for each one? | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
That's not very good, is it? | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
One of the things that you have to be really, really careful about | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
is using the same pin number over and over again. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
And you know sometimes people disguise them as well? | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
It's so easy to pick apart a pin number. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
If you think about social media you can find out lots | 0:24:19 | 0:24:21 | |
about people's birthdays, loads of people use pin numbers | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
as birth dates as well. You have to be so, so careful. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
Unfortunately these scams can happen to anyone - even Angela's | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
fallen victim to credit card fraud. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:34 | |
My accountant rang me up | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
and said, "I didn't know you were in Puerto Rico," | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
and I said, "I'm not, I'm in Devon." | 0:24:39 | 0:24:40 | |
And he said, "Well, your credit card is down there and somebody's | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
"just bought £3,000 worth of goods." | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
And I said, "Well, my credit card is having more fun | 0:24:45 | 0:24:47 | |
"than I'm having then, obviously." | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
So what happens when someone gets hold of your pin number | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
and starts clocking up money on your credit card? | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
Where do they stand then with not having to pay for that money? | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
And getting your money back? | 0:24:56 | 0:24:57 | |
The first thing you need to do as soon as you notice something's gone wrong is tell your bank | 0:24:57 | 0:25:02 | |
because the quicker you can do that the more chance you've got of getting your money back. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:06 | |
Look after your pin, look after card | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
and if it doesn't feel right don't do it. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
If you've ever rented a house or a flat, you'll know that as | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
a tenant you'll usually need to jump through quite a few hoops - | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
providing references and so on | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
to prove you really are who you say you are. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
But while you're doing that, I wonder how many of you | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
have thought of making checks into whether the person renting you the property | 0:25:30 | 0:25:35 | |
is also telling the truth about who they are? | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
When Victoria Bull's mum Jane decided to move out of London | 0:25:40 | 0:25:45 | |
to the countryside, Victoria realised she wanted to stay in the city. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:50 | |
With a baby on the way, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:51 | |
there wasn't much time to find a place of her own. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
But London's competitive rental market made finding the right | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
place for the right price tough. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
Every time that she found somewhere it seemed too expensive, | 0:25:59 | 0:26:03 | |
and you were getting very desperate, weren't you? | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
It felt like I was running out of time, so you do get quite desperate. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
And it becomes, sort of, very stressful. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:15 | |
So when Victoria saw what looked like the perfect flat | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
advertised online, she rushed to arrange a viewing. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:22 | |
And the following day, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:23 | |
Victoria and Jane met up with the owner's son, Jason Williams. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:29 | |
We decided to give him a ring, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
and he came down and met us outside the property. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
He did ask for a few minutes to be able to tidy up, | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
because he said the people that live there hadn't tidied up. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
I think he also said that his father owned the place, | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
and he was doing it on his behalf. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
Once inside it was obvious the flat ticked all | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
the boxes for Victoria. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:55 | |
It seemed perfect, it was within budget, | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
everything seemed to be exactly what I needed. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
To make sure she didn't lose out on her ideal flat, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
Victoria gave Jason Williams £300 in cash on the spot | 0:27:04 | 0:27:09 | |
and she arranged to transfer another £1,300, for the rest of the | 0:27:09 | 0:27:14 | |
deposit and the first month's rent, when he'd drawn up the paperwork. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
Next her prospective landlord called up Victoria's employer to | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
check her reference. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
He did everything that he was supposed to do, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
he acknowledged the fact that your boss had given | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
the reference for you and everything, and we just | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
assumed that everything was fine and we had no reason to think otherwise. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:39 | |
Just over a week after she first viewed it, the time | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
came for Victoria to move in to her new home. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:46 | |
So with mum Jane along to help, they set off for North London. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
But minutes into their journey, Victoria received a text message | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
from Jason Williams saying there was a suddenly a major damp problem | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
at the flat - so she couldn't move in, now or in the future. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:02 | |
I think my heart just sunk at that point. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
It just seemed as if he was making excuses for her not to be there. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
I think it was probably the hardest part of it all really. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:12 | |
Just being so disappointed. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
Victoria and Jane turned around and went home. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
And Jason Williams promised he'd refund the full £1,600 Victoria | 0:28:20 | 0:28:25 | |
had paid for the flat - money she'd borrowed from her parents. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
But Victoria never heard from him again or saw a penny of her money. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:34 | |
How on earth was I going to get the money to pay for another deposit, really? | 0:28:34 | 0:28:40 | |
Because, I mean, how can you ask someone again to lend you | 0:28:40 | 0:28:44 | |
that sort of money when you had already lost the first lot? | 0:28:44 | 0:28:49 | |
But that's not the end of the story. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
Because when Victoria contacted Rip-Off Britain, we were able to | 0:28:51 | 0:28:54 | |
dig a little deeper into the mysterious Jason Williams. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
We discovered that he wasn't - as he claimed - | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
the son of the owner of the property. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
In fact, Jason Williams isn't even called Jason Williams. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
His name is Kelechi Chukwu. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
He was actually renting the flat from the real owner. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:14 | |
Which is how he was able to show Victoria around. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:17 | |
And what's more, Mr Chukwu has operated exactly the same scam on someone else. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:24 | |
We've tried to track down Kelechi Chukwu, we've e-mailed all | 0:29:24 | 0:29:28 | |
the addresses we can find for him, searched for him online | 0:29:28 | 0:29:31 | |
and even tried to contact his old employers. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:33 | |
But as yet, he's not responded to any of our communications. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
As well as being lucrative, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
this was a particularly well-orchestrated scam. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:43 | |
Remember, the so-called Jason Williams even contacted Victoria's boss | 0:29:43 | 0:29:48 | |
to get a reference, so she wouldn't suspect something was wrong. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
So if you're looking for somewhere to rent, is there | 0:29:52 | 0:29:55 | |
anything you can do to make sure you don't to fall into the same trap? | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
There are three simple things you can do as a tenant to give | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
yourself a piece of mind. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:05 | |
First is to speak to the landlord and ask them questions, | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
ask do they rent out multiple properties. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:09 | |
Chances are, if they do, they are a professional landlord | 0:30:09 | 0:30:12 | |
and they're aware of their obligations and what the laws are. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
The second thing is ask them | 0:30:15 | 0:30:16 | |
if they have a buy to let mortgage on the property, they shouldn't be | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
renting it out if they only have a residential mortgage. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
And the third thing is to check with the land registry, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
they can tell you who the registered owners of any property are for a very small amount of money. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:28 | |
That land registry check will cost you less than a fiver | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
and could save you thousands. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
I think it's important to remember that the vast | 0:30:34 | 0:30:36 | |
majority of landlords are decent, honest people. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:38 | |
But at a time where demand for properties outstrips supply | 0:30:38 | 0:30:43 | |
and rents are really high, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:44 | |
there will always be some people who seek to defraud. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:47 | |
Back in North London, and despite the loss of £1,600, Victoria | 0:30:47 | 0:30:51 | |
has managed to find another flat to rent before she gives birth. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
And although she and granny-to-be Jane are busy getting ready | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
for the baby, it's hard to put this experience behind them. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
It's not just the financial implications, | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
it's all of the emotional and mental side of it that goes with it as well. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:10 | |
You completely lose your faith in everybody. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:13 | |
And I think to take advantage of young people, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
who are desperate to find places to live and have very little money, | 0:31:16 | 0:31:21 | |
and to destroy their life like that, it's awful. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:26 | |
At a time when money is tighter than ever, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:35 | |
you need to know that your cash is working hard for you, | 0:31:35 | 0:31:38 | |
avoiding rip-offs and all those sharp practices along the way. | 0:31:38 | 0:31:42 | |
So, to help, on our website: | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
you'll find plenty of invaluable tips and expert advice. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
Plus, you can download our absolutely free guide to getting a better deal | 0:31:51 | 0:31:56 | |
which is full of useful information to stop you being stung. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
Or, indeed, left out of pocket. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
Now, Britain may be a nation of shopkeepers, | 0:32:05 | 0:32:08 | |
but these days our stores don't need to be made from bricks and mortar. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:13 | |
It's pretty easy for just about anyone to open up a very | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
professional-looking one online. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
And while most are completely above board, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
some of them exist simply to entice you with amazing deals, | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
take your money, and then shut up shop completely - | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
leaving you with nothing but a sizeable hole in your pocket. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:31 | |
That seems to be what happened in our next case. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
But though the people we're about to meet all set out to buy | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
the same thing, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
they went to apparently different online companies that just happen | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
to look and behave in very similar ways. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
In the 1960s, they were the run-arounds of choice for the Mods. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
The epitome of style, cool, and affordable freedom. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
And today they still offer a simple | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
and cheap way of getting around, which is why Janice, Adrian, Paula | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
and her son Harry all started shopping for scooters in 2013. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
I've always wanted a scooter because I've always been into bikes and that. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:07 | |
I just fancied something different to do | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
and I thought it would be quite exciting to do. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
My wife was having to walk to work every day | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
so I decided to surprise her and buy her a new moped. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:17 | |
After having a good look around, all three soon spotted bikes | 0:33:17 | 0:33:21 | |
they fancied, though at different times and on three different | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
websites. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
I buy a lot of things online | 0:33:26 | 0:33:27 | |
so it was just the natural progression for me. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:29 | |
I've never ever had any trouble with any sites before. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:34 | |
I looked online, I found what I thought was the perfect bike. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
It was a really good deal. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
So, three different websites and three different customers, who, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
after finding the bikes they wanted, | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
each called the retailers to find out more. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:49 | |
I rang up the company and spoke to the gentleman concerned | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
who give me a lot of confidence. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
He told me that the bike was cheap because they weren't running | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
a factory, they didn't have any overheads. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
Each conversation they were just so confident | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
and knowledgeable in what they were telling me. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
And when it was time to pay, these three different companies | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
each started to behave in a remarkably similar way. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
Adrian, Janice and Paula were each told that they'd have to | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
pay by bank transfer, despite the websites all saying you could | 0:34:18 | 0:34:22 | |
pay using other methods. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
At first I was slightly worried about doing a bank transfer | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
because on the website, it did say you could use PayPal or Visa | 0:34:27 | 0:34:31 | |
which would be my preferred payment, but when I rang him up | 0:34:31 | 0:34:34 | |
he said because of costs they had stopped doing that. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:38 | |
Reassured by the explanations they were given, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
Janice paid JPR Scooters £685, | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
Adrian paid Regency Quads £1395, | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
and Paula paid Castle Scooters £599. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
Then they all waited for their bikes to be delivered... | 0:34:54 | 0:34:58 | |
but none of the bikes arrived as promised, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:00 | |
so all three called their respective companies to find out why. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
He then confirmed that the payment had been received | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
and they were getting the bike ready and it would be delivered to me | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
either Friday or Saturday. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
He told me there'd been a delivery problem, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
erm, I was very frustrated on the phone. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:17 | |
He did at that point offer me a refund but we did want the moped. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:23 | |
I rang him up on the Wednesday, he told me there were problems with | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
the registration documents and, yes, it would be delivered on the Friday. | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
But none of these delivery dates were met either. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:36 | |
So, all three picked up the phone again. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
But this time, none of the companies responded. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:42 | |
The number was just completely dead, so you'd ring it and it was just | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
a tone, there was nothing at all there. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
I just kept ringing him | 0:35:48 | 0:35:49 | |
and ringing him, erm, just kept getting the answer phone message. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
I hadn't received an e-mail to confirm that it was being | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
delivered Friday or Saturday and obviously nobody rang me | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
and that was when I thought, no, this is definitely a scam. | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
Janice, Adrian and Paula are still waiting for their bikes. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
At the time, they all thought their cases were isolated. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
But when they started looking online, | 0:36:08 | 0:36:10 | |
they found other people with similar stories of quads | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
and scooters paid for, but never delivered. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
And as we investigated further, we found these three apparently | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
different companies had some crucial details in common. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
Janice thought she was buying with JPR Scooters, and Adrian | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
thought he was buying with Regency Quad, but they both transferred | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
their money into the same bank account, and that account has the | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
same sort code as Castle Scooters, who still have Paula's £600. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:41 | |
Now sharing the same sort code doesn't mean | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
the companies are linked, but we've also spoken to other people | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
with identical experiences with both Castle Scooters and JPR Scooters. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:51 | |
We'd been told that the websites for these three companies looked | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
almost identical. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
When we checked, only one of them, for Castle Scooters, | 0:36:58 | 0:37:00 | |
appeared active. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
But funnily enough, we found three other scooter sites that looked | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
exactly the same. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:07 | |
That can't be coincidence. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:09 | |
So, we asked internet researcher Paul Myers to dig a little | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
deeper to see if they share more than just the same design. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:15 | |
It didn't function properly, but it looks professional enough. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:22 | |
Is there anything about it that would have aroused your suspicions? | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Everything on the net has its own numerical address called | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
an IP address. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:29 | |
And it seems that two of these scooter sites are on the same | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
IP address, ie, they're stored on the same computer. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:37 | |
And we have on the same site as Trade Scooters, | 0:37:37 | 0:37:41 | |
here we have Wright Scooters, so we can say to ourselves, | 0:37:41 | 0:37:45 | |
well, it's a little bit of a coincidence really | 0:37:45 | 0:37:47 | |
that we get another one of these websites sharing the same computer. | 0:37:47 | 0:37:51 | |
There's a bazillion computers on the internet, | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
why would they be on the same computer? | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
Why indeed. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
It seems obvious that these sites are linked. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
But when we contacted Regency Quads, Castle Scooters | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
and JPR Scooters for an explanation, none of them responded. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
With so many websites to choose from, | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
you won't always be able to spot the clues | 0:38:11 | 0:38:13 | |
that they're not all they seem. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
But one way to avoid being ripped off | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
is to steer clear of any website | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
that only lets you pay by money transfer. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
Because, as Adrian, Janice and Paula found out, | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
if things go wrong you'll be unlikely to get a penny back. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
I've lost £1,395. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
I've lost £600. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
£685 - which is a lot of money to me. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
It made me feel I'd been conned really easily. | 0:38:37 | 0:38:41 | |
It's estimated that one in ten people | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
will fall for an online scam - losing a thousand pounds on average. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
So to help stop you being one of the unlucky 10%, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:58 | |
we asked cyber security expert Dr Jessica Barker | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
what telltale signs we should all be looking out for. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
There's a number of small things you can look out for | 0:39:04 | 0:39:06 | |
when you're buying something over the internet | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
to see if it's a scam or for real. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:10 | |
A key thing is often spelling or grammar, | 0:39:10 | 0:39:12 | |
so if there's an advert that has very poor spelling and grammar, | 0:39:12 | 0:39:15 | |
then that's usually a sign that it's not a professional advert. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
If there is a big time pressure, if you're being told, | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
kind of, "Buy this now otherwise the offer is going to run out," | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
then, again, that's a psychological tool that's used by criminals | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
to try and get you to make the purchase | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
without thinking it through, or without doing your research. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
That research should involve checking out reviews | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
to see if what you're buying is legitimate | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
or if others have already reported that it's a scam. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
But if all that stacks up and you're still suspicious, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:43 | |
Jessica has a great tip. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:44 | |
If you're using certain web browsers such as Google Chrome, | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
you can check the validity of the picture being used | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
to sell a one-off or supposedly unique product. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
It's a really good idea if you're buying something online | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
to do a Google image search - | 0:39:59 | 0:40:01 | |
so, for example, if you are looking to buy a car, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:03 | |
you see a car being sold on a trader website, | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
you can check whether the image is being used elsewhere. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
What you do is right click on the image and copy the image URL, | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
and then open up Google image search. | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
And you click on the camera icon in the search bar, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
and then you literally just paste in and click search, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
and then that will bring up every other website | 0:40:25 | 0:40:27 | |
where that image is being used. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
You may find that the same car is being sold again and again | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
via different websites, and so a sure sign that it is a scam. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:36 | |
British Consumers lose £3.5 billion to scams every year - | 0:40:36 | 0:40:41 | |
and you can't always rely on scammers being obvious to spot. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
What you can do, though, is follow the absolute golden rule | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
when it comes for paying for goods - | 0:40:48 | 0:40:50 | |
and it's advice we really can't say often enough. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
Always use a credit card, especially if it's a large purchase. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
And this is because your credit card is protected. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
If you spend more than £100 on something | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
and that is mis-sold to you, | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
then you will be able to claim that money back. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
Here at Rip Off Britain we're always ready | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
to investigate more of your stories. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
Confused over your bills, or feel you're paying well over the odds? | 0:41:17 | 0:41:21 | |
It's far too small. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:22 | |
And it's done on purpose, so that you can't actually read it. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
People look at it, and they'll say, "I can't be bothered reading that." | 0:41:25 | 0:41:29 | |
Unsure what to do when you discover you've lost out, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
and that great deal has ended up costing you money? | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
People are buying into this - I did. | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
You know, and are they going to be as awkward with them | 0:41:37 | 0:41:39 | |
as they were with me? | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
You might have a cautionary tale of your own, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
and want to share the mistakes you made with us | 0:41:43 | 0:41:45 | |
so that other people don't do the same thing. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
Just fobbed off completely, and, you know, very disappointed. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
You can write to us at... | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
Or you can send us an e-mail to... | 0:42:01 | 0:42:02 | |
The Rip Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
You know, when you hear stories like that, | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
you might think that there's absolutely no way | 0:42:16 | 0:42:18 | |
that you would ever get caught out, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:19 | |
but whether they involve potential love interests | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
potential landlords, or potential money-making opportunities, | 0:42:21 | 0:42:25 | |
scams exist in every walk of life. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
As we've seen, it can be just too easy to get sucked in by them. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
And while sometimes you might end up losing a relatively small amount | 0:42:31 | 0:42:34 | |
and can get over it pretty quickly, | 0:42:34 | 0:42:36 | |
other situations could see you losing an awful lot more | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
and leave you picking up the pieces for months or even years afterwards. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
But you'll find plenty more information on how to spot a scam | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
on our website. It's... | 0:42:45 | 0:42:46 | |
And from there, of course, you can contact us | 0:42:50 | 0:42:52 | |
to tell us about your own experiences - | 0:42:52 | 0:42:54 | |
not just of scams, as we've been talking about today, | 0:42:54 | 0:42:57 | |
but about any subject under the sun. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 | |
And, in a different vein, we'd be particularly keen to hear from you | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
if one of the stories that you've heard on the programme | 0:43:02 | 0:43:05 | |
either recently or, indeed, in the past has helped you | 0:43:05 | 0:43:08 | |
to avoid losing out or being ripped off. | 0:43:08 | 0:43:11 | |
But I'm afraid that's where we have to leave it for today, | 0:43:11 | 0:43:13 | |
so thank you very much for watching, and until next time, | 0:43:13 | 0:43:16 | |
-from all of us, bye-bye. -Goodbye. -Bye. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:18 |