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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling ripped off

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and you contacted us in your thousands.

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You've told us about the companies you think get it wrong

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and the customer service that simply isn't up to scratch.

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People should expect more when they're paying for something these days.

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Everything you buy, I just think we're getting ripped off.

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You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money.

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and investigate the extra charges you'd say are unfair.

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We have to rely on them giving you a fair price for something,

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you can't always rely on that.

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You don't want more hassle,

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you want them to honour their agreement with you.

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And when you've lost out, but no-one else is to blame,

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you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap.

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That is disgusting!

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So whether it's a blatant rip-off, or a genuine mistake,

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we're here to find out why you're out of pocket

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and what you can do about it.

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Your stories, your money. This is Rip Off Britain.

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Hello, and welcome to Rip Off Britain,

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the programme that helps you make the right choices

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when it comes to your cash,

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whether you're spending your money, or indeed trying to save it.

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After years of low interest rates, a simple high street savings account

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probably won't be earning anything like the interest you want.

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So if you are anxious for your money to grow,

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when you're offered an exciting new opportunity

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that promises big returns for relatively little investment,

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it can seem very hard to refuse.

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And in amongst all the sales patter, it's not always easy to understand

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what you're getting yourself into.

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As we'll see, however foolproof or glamorous it might appear,

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even the most dazzling investment opportunity

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can quickly lose its sparkle if it doesn't deliver what was promised.

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Coming up, a company that promises glittering returns on diamonds

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that you may never even see.

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I didn't come into this to keep the diamonds forever,

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I'm not James Bond.

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We don't think there is a diamond that we're going to get

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and we don't think he's going to get his money back.

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And it's glamorous, exciting,

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and you might even get your 30 seconds on the red carpet,

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but just how risky is investing in the movie business?

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The actors' agents had never heard of such a film,

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they'd never been contacted regarding this film.

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So for me, at that point, it was like 100%,

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I knew, it wasn't as it had been sold.

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They're said to be forever and a girl's best friend,

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so what is there not to love about diamonds?

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Well, particularly if the ones you own are going up in value.

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And that is pretty much the sales pitch that's used by a company

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that cold-calls, offering diamonds as an investment opportunity.

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Sadly, the promises they make can quickly lose their sparkle.

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Diamonds,

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the ultimate statement in wealth and glamour

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and the epitome of romance and luxury.

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In recent years their value has increased so much

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that the global market is now worth £42 billon a year.

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It's that high-value market that Christine Ball's dad Les Goodrum

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was given the chance to invest in

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when he was cold-called in April 2013.

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But Christine and her husband Douglas are worried that

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far from investing thousands in something with

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almost-guaranteed returns, he might have been scammed.

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Douglas, good to see you, hi.

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We first discovered a letter in his house which was saying,

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"This is our initial letter with the contract for your purchase of a diamond."

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So we took that away and had a look at what the company actually was.

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-Solitaire Alternatives?

-Yes, he gave that to us,

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and we thought, "Well, that looks very professional."

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But then we started looking into the organisation and realised

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that this was potentially not as kosher as we thought it might be.

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Solitaire Alternatives claims "extensive industry knowledge"

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and promises to help both private diamond collectors

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and first-time buyers, like Les.

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But despite the slick website and brochure,

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Christine and Douglas still weren't sure Les had made the right choice.

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And as they dug deeper,

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they discovered he hadn't bought just one diamond.

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We challenged him about the second one, and said you know, "These people

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may not be what you think," and, "Why don't you let us see the diamond?"

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Les's response to that made the couple even more concerned.

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He said, "Oh, no, it's OK. They're going to store it for me safely

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"in Switzerland, you know, so that I don't have to have it in my house."

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In the contract, it stated, if you asked them to come to your house,

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they'd send them to you.

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You'd be able to look at them through a plastic covering,

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but if you opened them, they lost value.

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Well, diamonds can't lose value because they're a hard substance.

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Did you say this to him at the time?

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We didn't say much at that time

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because we thought we'd investigate it first, because we didn't

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really want to challenge my dad on his own decision.

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You know, he's 95.

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Although he's 95, he can still make his own decisions and he does so.

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Before former coal miner Les was called up out of the blue

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by Solitaire Alternatives, he'd never thought of buying diamonds.

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And though at first he was reluctant,

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the sales rep was persistent.

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They bombarded me with telephone calls, the telephone got red hot.

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How often were they ringing you?

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Well, you think of a time of the day and that's it!

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-So, three or four times a day?

-Sometimes.

-Really?

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-Mm.

-And always the sales pitch to buy the diamonds?

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-Yeah.

-Did you ask them how they knew what your telephone number was

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and how they'd found you?

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No, I didn't do that. I didn't do that.

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So, really, you had to put your trust in them?

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Yes, I did. I was trusting them.

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Les initially bought what he was told were two yellow diamonds

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at a cost of £7,300.

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The company was holding on to them to keep them safe

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and Les never got to see them.

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Because, within weeks, he had a call from George,

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his contact at Solitaire Alternatives,

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who claimed he'd found a buyer who was interested in buying them.

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And what's more, Les would make a profit,

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so he agreed to sell.

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They didn't tell the actual amount of money

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-that was the profit that was made.

-Did that bother you?

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Well, of course it did, of course it did.

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Because when I first went into this, I said I wasn't going in

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because I wanted to be a diamond merchant or anything like that.

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All I wanted was to make a bit of money, that was it.

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A few weeks later, George called again and told Les

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he could invest the profit he'd made from the yellow diamonds

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in a more valuable blue diamond.

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He'd need to pay another £2,000 to make up the price,

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but it would be worth it

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because the blue diamond would soon be worth over £45,000.

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On the telephone they told you

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you own a diamond that is worth £45,000.

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Now, what happens, have they explained,

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if you want to sell those diamonds and get the money?

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-Have they explained what happens?

-No, they haven't.

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Instead, a different sales rep from Solitaire Alternatives asked Les

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to invest even more than the £9,300 he'd already spent.

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He said, "Do you want to put another £10,000 in?"

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I said, "No, no, no, not another penny. That's it.

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"That's as far as we go.

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"I want to see some capital."

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You want to see some return.

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I want to see some return before I make any further decisions

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and that's it.

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But that call was nearly a year ago,

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and since then Les hasn't heard anything more from either that rep,

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or from George, the initial contact,

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who up until then had called him quite frequently.

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You're still convinced they're genuine, that he's a genuine guy,

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and that there is a diamond there?

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Well, not having seen it,

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you know, you start to get little bits of doubt in your mind.

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But then Les revealed the real reason he's still hoping

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his investment comes good.

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The 95-year-old fears in the future he may need care

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and doesn't want that cost falling on his family.

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You know your daughter and your son are a bit worried?

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Yeah, but then again, to me,

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to me, Angela,

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I realise I may have to go into a home later on because...

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I mean, they look after me at the moment as best that they can,

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but there might come a time when they can't.

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I mean, it'll have to be paid for,

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that was the idea of going into it in the beginning.

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So as things stand, Les has spent £9,300

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on what he believes is a blue diamond,

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held for safekeeping in a Swiss vault.

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He doesn't know for sure whether he'll see a return

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on his investment or indeed whether he owns a diamond at all.

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I don't want to drag the police into it.

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I'd rather come to agreement between them and myself.

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I didn't come into this to keep the diamonds forever -

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I'm not James Bond.

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I just want to make some cash, that was all.

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Christine and Douglas have tried to contact Solitaire Alternatives

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on Les's behalf, but with no luck.

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Every time we've rung up, it's always been an answerphone.

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I've never managed to speak to them.

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I don't think you've managed to speak to them,

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you've left messages for them and said, "Stop contacting him,

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"he's an old man. You know, stop contacting him."

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And they've obviously just ignored that.

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And though Les hasn't heard from then for some time,

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Christine worries that someone from Solitaire Alternatives might

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call him again and win back his trust.

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My father's 95, he's quite lonely, and he would say that himself,

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and therefore he enjoys an hour in the day having a chat

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with someone on the phone and obviously these people,

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like I said before, have established him as their friend.

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And therefore they're not going to deceive him or tell him lies,

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they're not going to take money from him for something that doesn't exist.

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He didn't accept that and we're not even sure

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if he really accepts that now, we're not even sure of that.

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Do you both believe now, along with your brother, that the £9,000,

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whatever it may be, that your father has spent is gone?

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We believe so. We don't think there's a diamond we're going to get

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and we don't think he's going to get his money back.

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Later in the programme, I'm on the case of the company

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who sold Les his diamonds to find out where his money's gone.

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-Maybe they're taking a long lunch.

-PHONE RINGS

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Next, a financial investment that sounded a lot more exciting

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than most of the ones you'd typically come across.

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A scheme offering a lot more glamour and showbiz, with the opportunity

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to put your cash into the production of a new movie,

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not just any old movie, but one with lots of big-name stars taking part.

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So what's wrong with this picture?

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Well, an investor who wrote to us about it is starting to wonder

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if it's more than just the film's plot that's a little far fetched

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because as far as she's concerned, it's been not so much a case of

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lights, camera, action, as seemingly no action whatsoever.

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A visit to the flicks is as close as most of us get to Hollywood.

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But for property developer Sherry Bennett, the allure

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of the movies was so appealing that she wanted to be a part of it.

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She had spotted a project which would give her not a starring role,

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but certainly a supporting one in an upcoming British film

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alongside some very big names, like Sir Michael Caine, Ray Winstone

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and Vinnie Jones.

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It would have been exciting, not just to be an extra on set,

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I mean, that wasn't a selling part for me.

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It was more about the returns I was going to get.

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Although Sherry was set to have a brief appearance on screen,

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she would have a much more important role to play behind the scenes

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as one of the people actually funding the film.

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It was an unusual investment, to be sure,

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but compared to other things she could have done with her savings,

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the movie business looked much more interesting.

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It sounded like a really good investment, but I actually

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enjoy films, and especially films like, you know, Braveheart,

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all those sort of films. So I knew the returns could be really good,

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and it was quite an exciting product to be a part of,

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because obviously you're there for some of the filming,

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you get to go to the premiere,

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and I suppose, yeah, that was what attracted me.

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The film was called Henry Five

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and its unusual premise transposes elements of Shakespeare's Henry V

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into a science fiction story set around the apocalypse.

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For me, it was along those lines of like a Gladiator, Braveheart film,

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two of my favourite films. I mean, yeah,

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how could it not be a hit? So that was why I was getting a bit excited.

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You know, if a film such as that did go public,

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then I'm sure it would be a box office smash, as they say.

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Sherry's foray into the movie business began in June 2013 when,

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after hearing about the opportunity to invest, she bought

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£5,000 worth of shares in the film from a company called

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Alternative Solutions, who also trade in things like wine and gold.

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She was promised a potential 25% return on her investment

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plus a share of the profits.

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I checked out Alternative Solutions and I'd also spoke to people

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that had previously invested with them, they're more bigger for wine,

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so the client that I spoke to knew of them through wine investment,

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and said, "Yep, they're a reliable company. They trade. They seem OK."

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Sherry also checked out the production company

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that would actually be making the film - Warlord Productions.

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And again, she was happy with what she found.

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Meanwhile, Warlord Productions and the film's distributor

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announced that the first tranche of funding was secured.

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Pre-production would start in just a few weeks and they were set

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to officially reveal details of the film at the Cannes Film Festival.

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So, with an all-star cast, a rip-roaring plot

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and a £10 million budget,

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it was time to sit back and let the action begin...

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or not. Sherry thought the cameras would start to roll

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over the next few months.

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But instead of getting news of the walk-on-part

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all investors were promised,

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she was told that her investment was now being handled

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by a related company called Spice Factory,

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and they had some worrying news.

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Spice Factory contacted me at the beginning of this year saying

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that Ray Winstone is no longer a big enough actor to perform in the film

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and that they're now seeking a guy called Robert Pattinson

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from the Twilight.

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Not heard of him, don't watch the Twilight.

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Sherry was also told that Vinnie Jones would no longer be starring

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in the film and there was no longer mention of Michael Caine at all.

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It's now all about Robert Pattinson which, I mean, every time you sort of

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mention the man's name, it was making me feel more sick

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than the first time he said it,

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cos a soon as I Googled this guy, I thought, you know,

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him alone is going to want about £20 million to star in this film.

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From what I'd read in the contract, there was about a £10 million budget,

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so you don't need to be great with maths to work it out.

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Sherry's suspicions prompted her to do some more research online

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and she discovered a newspaper report from six months earlier

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that made some very worrying accusations.

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I read an article concerning the film from the Mirror

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and the actors' agents had never heard of such a film,

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they'd never been contacted regarding this film,

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it was nothing known to them.

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So, for me, at that point, it was 100%,

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I knew, it wasn't as it had been sold.

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Worried about what was she reading and what it meant for her investment,

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Sherry called the Spice Factory straightaway.

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They assured me that it was total rubbish.

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They was 100% sure this film was going to go to production,

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reassuring me that they'd seen this article

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and at present they was trying to take the Mirror to court

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to try and have this article removed.

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And it was at that point I knew,

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you know, I knew that it was a bad move investing in this film.

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Sherry asked the Spice Factory to provide details

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of when filming was due to start,

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and how much funding they'd secured so far,

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but no such information was sent.

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That's when Sherry came to us.

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But it's not been easy to pin down how much about Henry Five is fact

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and how much is complete fiction.

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But one thing we have established for sure is that

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just like Ray Winstone, Vinnie Jones and all those other big names,

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the actor Robert Pattinson was never confirmed to star in the movie.

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Now, Sherry is no stranger to investment -

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she's been taking calculated gambles on property for years -

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but putting money into movies can often be extremely risky.

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Even Hollywood companies make big losses.

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So how sensible is it for someone outside the industry

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to try and get a piece of the feature film action?

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Overall, the film industry is really not for beginners.

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It's not for outsiders. It's a difficult industry to understand

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and I think investors would be really wise to stay away.

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It does look attractive, it seems as if it's very glitzy,

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but the amount of things that can go wrong on film productions,

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on film projects, and the amount of things that can go wrong

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when a film is released to the public are so numerous

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that for any individual, you're at high, high risk.

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It's quite possible for a producer to have a wish list of stars,

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you know, big names that might seem attractive, when in fact

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they may have just had a casual conversation with someone's agent.

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They're not really geared into the industry and how it works.

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We contacted the various companies involved in Henry Five.

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Alternative Solutions, who sold Sherry the initial investment,

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told us that after that, it had no further involvement in the film.

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We also approached Warlord Productions and Spice Factory,

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who in a joint response confirmed their

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"complete intention to produce the film",

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even giving a date when filming would apparently begin,

0:18:280:18:31

although this has now passed.

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They said that Robert Pattinson was approached to star in the movie,

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"but he passed".

0:18:380:18:40

And they also insisted that, despite reports to the contrary,

0:18:400:18:43

actors including Michael Caine, Ray Winstone and Vinnie Jones

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were all linked to the film, although they didn't make it clear

0:18:460:18:49

whether they had actually been formally approached.

0:18:490:18:53

They went on to say there are

0:18:530:18:54

"a number of individuals who invest in films"

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and "many people have made substantial returns."

0:18:570:19:00

And while they said they have no record of Sherry contacting them

0:19:000:19:04

for updates on the film's progress, they apologise

0:19:040:19:07

if that was the case, but maintain that she has no reason to complain

0:19:070:19:11

about anything "other than a failure to deal with an enquiry".

0:19:110:19:15

But even so, they did offer to refund Sherry her investment,

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an offer she has now taken up.

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The man whose original play supposedly inspired Henry Five

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once wrote, "All the world's a stage,

0:19:260:19:28

"and all the men and women merely players."

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But Sherry doesn't plan to play any more part in the movie business

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and she certainly won't be going

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"once more unto the breach, dear friends"

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with this kind of investment.

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No way. Just be wary of any nice sales people that call you up

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with a great pitch telling you you can make

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extraordinary amounts of money, I mean, just be very wary.

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Still to come on Rip Off Britain...

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why asking the right questions before you sign up to invest in property

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could save you a whole lot of hassle later on.

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It was just appalling. My eyes could not believe what I saw.

0:20:040:20:09

I couldn't believe that I was sold this thing

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and I actually own this place.

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-For one weekend only...

-It's a one-stop shop full of advice.

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It's Rip Off Britain's pop-up shop.

0:20:260:20:28

This year, we brought our top team of experts to the West Midlands,

0:20:320:20:35

ready to tackle as many of your problems as they could.

0:20:350:20:39

-Hi, James.

-Hiya.

-I'm Julia, nice to meet you.

-I'm Janet, James's mum.

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'James Nicholls called in to see us after investing a huge sum of money

0:20:460:20:50

'into a Brazilian property deal that now looks like it was a scam.

0:20:500:20:53

'Financial ombudsman Caroline Lusted Wells

0:20:530:20:56

'and legal expert Gary Rycroft were keen to find out more.'

0:20:560:21:00

When I bought the actual land, the guy, on numerous occasions,

0:21:000:21:05

never answered the phone, etc, never got back to me

0:21:050:21:08

and basically I've never heard nothing of him

0:21:080:21:10

since the actual date of signing over the documentation.

0:21:100:21:14

Tell us the sorry tale in terms of how much you paid over.

0:21:140:21:18

Basically, we was told an initial £500 deposit was required.

0:21:180:21:22

I followed that by £9,500, so £10,000 in total.

0:21:220:21:27

What did you think you were getting for the £10,000?

0:21:270:21:30

We were told we were going to get 400 square metres of land in Brazil,

0:21:300:21:35

which was going to be able to be built on.

0:21:350:21:37

James, can I ask you a question? How did you pay for the deposit

0:21:370:21:40

-and the £9,500?

-I actually paid in cash.

0:21:400:21:43

-Cash?

-Yeah. Which is a sort of silly thing to do,

0:21:430:21:47

really, looking back on it now.

0:21:470:21:49

'Unfortunately for James, having paid the full £10,000 in cash,

0:21:490:21:53

'there was no way to trace or recover

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'any of his hard-earned savings.'

0:21:560:21:58

It doesn't look good. If you buy land in this country,

0:21:580:22:01

it gets registered at the Land Registry

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and you can establish ownership of land that way.

0:22:040:22:07

Have you ever had any evidence

0:22:070:22:08

that you've actually ever bought any land in Brazil?

0:22:080:22:11

Only with the documents that I have with me today.

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It may be worth checking with the Brazilian Land Registry

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whether you actually do own any land...

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-Yeah.

-..where you've been told you own it. I suspect you don't,

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but it's worth just closing off that avenue of enquiry.

0:22:240:22:28

-Yeah.

-But I think this is probably a kind of chalk it up to experience,

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lesson learnt. Hopefully, people watching will learn from this

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and take some pointers away with them.

0:22:370:22:40

-Think about going onto social networks...

-Yes.

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-..and put it out there.

-Yeah.

-I bet you'll find you're not the only one

0:22:430:22:47

-connected to this person.

-No, definitely.

0:22:470:22:49

-Thanks for coming.

-No problem, thank you.

0:22:490:22:52

Outside, we ran workshops packed with tips and advice,

0:22:540:22:58

including this one, where financial expert James Daley was keen

0:22:580:23:01

to tell the people of Dudley how to avoid being stuck with

0:23:010:23:04

what's intriguingly called a "zombie bank account".

0:23:040:23:08

You know what Zombie's are...

0:23:080:23:11

walking dead.

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A lot of you might have your money in what Julia was talking about,

0:23:120:23:15

these accounts are called zombie accounts.

0:23:150:23:17

These are the majority of savings accounts out there

0:23:170:23:20

that are earning next to nothing,

0:23:200:23:22

almost zero, £1 of interest every year for £1,000.

0:23:220:23:27

-Shocking.

-Millions of people have money trapped in these accounts.

0:23:270:23:31

The banks make their money

0:23:310:23:33

from people not being savvy and moving it.

0:23:330:23:35

'If you do manage to switch to a bank account that for a fixed period

0:23:370:23:41

'does have a good interest rate, make a note in your diary

0:23:410:23:44

'for when that rate expires.

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'That way you can switch again

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'and avoid being stuck with one of those dreaded zombie accounts.'

0:23:480:23:52

You know, it's not so long ago that buy-to-let was big business.

0:23:550:23:59

Property investment clubs were prolific,

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and many people were buying up homes not to live in

0:24:010:24:04

but to rent out in order to make money.

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The financial crash put paid to those boom days

0:24:070:24:10

and in many areas the market was all but wiped out.

0:24:100:24:13

But now, buy-to-let is back, and in a big way.

0:24:130:24:17

The booming housing market has made this kind of investment attractive,

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but do make sure that you've asked all the right questions

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before being tempted to sign up.

0:24:240:24:26

Because here's a cautionary tale that proves how crucial it is

0:24:260:24:30

to know exactly what you're getting yourself into.

0:24:300:24:33

Back in 2012, Jason Bernard was looking for a house to buy in London.

0:24:360:24:40

But his plans changed when, with his wife Michelle, he was invited

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to a seminar to hear about a new property investment opportunity.

0:24:430:24:47

The sales pitch was very convincing and...

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part of that was representation on the side of the estate agent.

0:24:520:24:57

She told me that she had bought a property herself

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and it was working out really well for her.

0:25:010:25:03

The presentation had been organised

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by a long-standing estate agency business

0:25:060:25:08

called Choices Property Investments.

0:25:080:25:11

They said the buy-to-let market was booming

0:25:110:25:13

and now was the time to invest in a flat that, once it was rented,

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would produce a healthy return.

0:25:160:25:18

This video from the company's website gives a flavour

0:25:180:25:21

of what so enthused Jason on the day.

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We don't work for the sellers, the vendors,

0:25:240:25:27

we work for you, the buyers...

0:25:270:25:28

Jason was impressed by what he heard.

0:25:290:25:32

And over the next few days he says he received follow-up calls

0:25:320:25:34

from the sales team encouraging him to sign up,

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giving him the impression he'd need to act fast or miss out.

0:25:370:25:41

It won't be here for ever.

0:25:410:25:43

Before anyone can buy a property through Choices,

0:25:440:25:47

they have to pay to become what the company calls a "retained client".

0:25:470:25:51

As Jason understood it, £1,800 up front, plus a monthly fee,

0:25:510:25:55

would mean he was signing up to an arrangement

0:25:550:25:58

where the company would take care of everything on his behalf.

0:25:580:26:01

The company says, in fact, that wasn't the case.

0:26:010:26:04

But either way, whatever he thought he was getting, Jason was convinced

0:26:040:26:08

this was the start of being able to make a healthy profit.

0:26:080:26:12

The cost of joining it was about £1,500 plus VAT,

0:26:120:26:17

and it seemed really good cos it suggested or it stated

0:26:170:26:21

that we would be getting a yield of about 12-15%.

0:26:210:26:26

Choices told Jason about exciting opportunities

0:26:260:26:29

with properties in Barrow-in-Furness in Cumbria,

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300 miles away from his home in London.

0:26:320:26:35

The company said it was a "regeneration area

0:26:350:26:37

"benefitting from huge ongoing investment"

0:26:370:26:40

with "high demand for rental properties".

0:26:400:26:42

Jason was hooked, even though he didn't actually know much

0:26:420:26:45

about the property or where it was.

0:26:450:26:48

It was the first time I heard of Barrow.

0:26:480:26:51

The location of the property was not really an issue.

0:26:510:26:54

It was just... I was more interested

0:26:540:26:56

in what I could have gotten out of it.

0:26:560:26:58

The couple agreed to buy a flat in a prime spot for £51,100.

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And as they'd chosen one with a tenant already living there,

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it came at £2,000 less than some of the other flats

0:27:070:27:11

because it wouldn't be refurbished by the developer.

0:27:110:27:14

I specifically requested for photos

0:27:140:27:16

of the property that we were going to buy.

0:27:160:27:18

But there were only two pictures and I asked for more,

0:27:180:27:21

but we didn't get any,

0:27:210:27:23

so it was not very clear as to what it is we were buying.

0:27:230:27:28

Choices didn't have any further pictures of the flat

0:27:280:27:31

they could send on,

0:27:310:27:32

but they told Jason that he and Michelle were eligible for

0:27:320:27:35

a 90% mortgage, meaning all they'd need to pay up front

0:27:350:27:39

was a 10% deposit of just over £5,000.

0:27:390:27:42

In turn, they stood to make a 23% return on the investment

0:27:420:27:46

and in the unlikely event that the flat wasn't tenanted,

0:27:460:27:50

the management company who looked after the building

0:27:500:27:52

would guarantee up to six months' rent.

0:27:520:27:54

All in all, it seemed too good to miss.

0:27:540:27:57

Everything would be taken care of and we wouldn't have to

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set foot in the place or even go near it

0:28:010:28:04

to manage it or do anything to do with it.

0:28:040:28:07

We just had to pick up the money

0:28:070:28:09

at the end of the month from the rent.

0:28:090:28:12

So, worried that they might miss out, Jason and his wife

0:28:120:28:15

signed on the dotted line, four days after they'd been to the seminar.

0:28:150:28:19

The mortgage deal came with a solicitor already attached,

0:28:190:28:22

one Jason couldn't change.

0:28:220:28:24

But over the next few months, as the sale went through,

0:28:240:28:27

Jason felt unhappy with various aspects of the purchase

0:28:270:28:30

and details and fees he says he hadn't understood or expected.

0:28:300:28:34

We called up the estate agent and said, "Look, what is this?"

0:28:340:28:38

And everything just seemed really confusing

0:28:380:28:41

and just really frustrating.

0:28:410:28:44

But in July 2012, six months after the seminar,

0:28:450:28:49

the purchase went through.

0:28:490:28:50

Finally, we own this property,

0:28:520:28:54

and it was a good feeling that we are finally over the hurdle

0:28:540:28:59

and we can actually start making money out of this property.

0:28:590:29:02

Meanwhile, his solicitor said he'd report the sale to the Land Registry

0:29:020:29:06

so that Jason and his wife would be named on the deeds

0:29:060:29:09

as the owners of the flat.

0:29:090:29:11

All seemed to be going to plan.

0:29:110:29:13

By now, the tenant who'd been living in the flat had moved out.

0:29:130:29:17

But when Jason told the management company

0:29:170:29:19

he wanted to go and visit the property,

0:29:190:29:20

he was given some news that, well, made his skin crawl!

0:29:200:29:24

She said to me, "Mr Bernard, the place is infested with fleas."

0:29:250:29:30

So it was with some sense of trepidation

0:29:310:29:34

that Jason finally made the journey

0:29:340:29:36

to Barrow-in-Furness to visit his flat.

0:29:360:29:38

Having seen no pictures of the inside,

0:29:380:29:40

he wasn't sure what to expect,

0:29:400:29:42

but he certainly wasn't ready for what he found when he got there.

0:29:420:29:45

It was just appalling. My eyes could not believe what I saw.

0:29:450:29:50

The sink was broken, the bathroom was in a state,

0:29:510:29:55

the water was all over the place, the carpet was ruined.

0:29:550:29:59

The stove, sink, everything was broken, it was just in a mess.

0:29:590:30:04

I couldn't believe that I was sold this thing

0:30:040:30:07

and I actually own this place.

0:30:070:30:10

Jason shopped around for a quote on making the flat habitable

0:30:110:30:15

and was told it would cost almost £9,000.

0:30:150:30:18

He complained to Choices, demanding that THEY should repair the property,

0:30:180:30:22

but they said, unfortunately, it wasn't their responsibility.

0:30:220:30:25

They reminded him he had paid £2,000 less for the flat because it was

0:30:250:30:29

tenanted, and the original agreement had made clear that HE would be

0:30:290:30:32

responsible for refurbishing it after the tenant moved out.

0:30:320:30:36

They told Jason they would try to help, although at this stage,

0:30:360:30:39

they weren't sure what they could do.

0:30:390:30:41

And having seen the state the flat was in now,

0:30:430:30:45

Jason's dreams of a healthy rental income suddenly seemed a lot

0:30:450:30:48

further away than he'd hoped.

0:30:480:30:51

We cannot rent it since, because it's just...it's uninhabitable.

0:30:510:30:56

Thankfully, the flat had come with a six-month rental guarantee,

0:30:560:31:00

so Jason was paid rent by the management agency while

0:31:000:31:03

he tried to sort things out.

0:31:030:31:05

The fleas alone cost him almost £200 to get rid of

0:31:050:31:09

and the cost of all the repairs was entirely down to him.

0:31:090:31:12

Of course, if Jason had actually seen the property before

0:31:120:31:15

he bought it, he'd have known what state it was in,

0:31:150:31:18

but he believed he was getting a much greater service than

0:31:180:31:20

the estate agents say he had signed up to.

0:31:200:31:23

There was not really anything for me

0:31:230:31:25

to believe that it was in a bad condition.

0:31:250:31:27

We were never told that the place was in a bad condition.

0:31:270:31:31

We were thinking that it would be a place where we could buy.

0:31:310:31:35

And since then, there's been a further blow.

0:31:350:31:37

The solicitor who'd handled the sale went out of business before

0:31:370:31:41

registering the property in Jason's name.

0:31:410:31:43

So not only is Jason paying the mortgage on a flat that isn't

0:31:430:31:46

what he thought it would be, he can't even prove he owns it.

0:31:460:31:50

And while he'd like to blame the estate agent who first told him

0:31:500:31:53

about the flat, he accepts that, in all the excitement, there were things

0:31:530:31:56

he should have done differently and considered more carefully.

0:31:560:32:00

We didn't really take the time to dig into the terms

0:32:000:32:04

and conditions and see what clauses were there,

0:32:040:32:07

and what it really was that we were getting into.

0:32:070:32:10

When we spoke to Choices Acquisitions about Jason's case,

0:32:110:32:15

they thanked us for bringing it to their attention

0:32:150:32:17

and apologised unreservedly to Jason.

0:32:170:32:20

They say that they "take great pride" in their

0:32:200:32:22

"high standards of customer service", having won industry awards for it.

0:32:220:32:27

But they admit that "no matter how good the service,

0:32:270:32:30

"or the market, things can and do go wrong."

0:32:300:32:33

They said they don't believe they're responsible for what happened

0:32:330:32:36

to Jason and couldn't have prevented it, but if he had followed

0:32:360:32:39

their complaints procedure they "would have offered assistance".

0:32:390:32:44

Since hearing from us about the extent of what went wrong,

0:32:440:32:46

the company says it's improved a number of processes...

0:32:460:32:50

And they've told us they've "approached Jason with

0:32:560:32:59

"an offer of help" to help him make the flat "a successful buy-to-let".

0:32:590:33:02

We also contacted the solicitor who handled the sale.

0:33:050:33:08

The firm he worked for is no longer operating, and he wouldn't comment

0:33:080:33:11

on the specifics of the sale, but he did assure us that if it is the case

0:33:110:33:16

that the flat wasn't registered in Jason's name, he would resolve it.

0:33:160:33:19

Roger Southam is an expert on buy-to-let.

0:33:220:33:25

He says, before being seduced into buying ANY property like this,

0:33:250:33:29

it's crucial you understand exactly what you're getting into

0:33:290:33:32

and take time to get the right advice rather than base

0:33:320:33:35

the decision on what you're being promised.

0:33:350:33:37

You have to make sure that you do all the checks and all

0:33:370:33:40

the investigations that make you comfortable with what you're buying.

0:33:400:33:43

It is no good relying on someone

0:33:430:33:46

who happens to ask you to go into a seminar.

0:33:460:33:49

Meanwhile, Jason is paying for repairs to his flat

0:33:490:33:52

as and when he can afford them.

0:33:520:33:55

It was definitely naivety that caused us to jump into it and just

0:33:550:34:00

the excitement of having something that we can call our own home.

0:34:000:34:04

Earlier in the programme, we met Les and his family,

0:34:090:34:13

who are starting to wonder about an investment opportunity.

0:34:130:34:16

Diamonds are the commodity that he's supposedly making his money on,

0:34:160:34:20

and yet 95-year-old Les has never actually seen the stones that

0:34:200:34:25

he's been persuaded to buy, and, frankly, no-one else can

0:34:250:34:28

say for sure that that is what his money has actually bought him.

0:34:280:34:32

Well, I wanted to see what an expert would make of this

0:34:320:34:35

kind of investment and, importantly,

0:34:350:34:38

hear what the company behind this diamond buying opportunity

0:34:380:34:42

could say to convince me that it is all above board.

0:34:420:34:46

Diamonds - for many of us,

0:34:480:34:50

they remain the most desirable stone you can own.

0:34:500:34:53

And with sales of diamond jewellery generating over £40 billion a year,

0:34:530:34:57

these rocks attract the attention of any would-be investors.

0:34:570:35:01

So when 95-year-old Les decided to buy some

0:35:010:35:04

diamonds from a friendly telephone salesman who called him out of

0:35:040:35:07

the blue, he believed he had a great opportunity to make some money.

0:35:070:35:12

But, 12 months on, he's come to suspect something is not right,

0:35:120:35:16

a view shared by his daughter Christine.

0:35:160:35:19

Unlike most other investments,

0:35:190:35:20

the diamond market in the UK is not regulated,

0:35:200:35:23

so investors are not protected if something goes wrong,

0:35:230:35:26

and traders aren't held to account

0:35:260:35:28

if they fail to meet the right standards.

0:35:280:35:30

Some diamond investments can make money,

0:35:300:35:33

but it's only recommended for experienced,

0:35:330:35:35

informed diamond collectors.

0:35:350:35:37

If I could get my capital back, and a profit, I'd be happy.

0:35:370:35:41

But it's becoming increasingly common for people like Les to

0:35:430:35:46

be targeted by companies offering this kind of so-called opportunity.

0:35:460:35:50

Fellows Auctioneers in Birmingham's jewellery quarter deals with

0:35:500:35:54

legitimate diamond trades every day,

0:35:540:35:57

but recently the firm's specialist gemologists were asked to

0:35:570:36:00

give a second opinion on some diamonds that didn't seem to

0:36:000:36:03

have been traded so legitimately.

0:36:030:36:05

Like Les's stones, these had also been bought

0:36:050:36:08

from a company that cold call potential customers.

0:36:080:36:11

So what sort of quality does this kind of investment typically buy?

0:36:110:36:15

This was a stone which is accompanied by a genuine

0:36:150:36:19

Gemological Institute of America report.

0:36:190:36:23

It's exactly what it says on the tin.

0:36:230:36:27

However, they have paid £12,000 for this stone.

0:36:270:36:31

But is the buyer's stone actually worth the £12,000 they paid for it?

0:36:310:36:36

Geoff has a very similar diamond as a comparison

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and the real value of something like this appears to be a lot less.

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This stone reads a virtually identical colour grade, very similar

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carat weight, same clarity grade, could be purchased for £2,900.

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So, the stone bought over the phone by the client appears to be

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worth a fraction of the £12,000 handed over.

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In fact, for that sort of investment,

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this expert would expect someone to become the owner of a diamond

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which is much more impressive.

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With that £12,000 spending power, what they could have actually bought

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from a reputable source is this stone here,

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which is immediately significantly bigger.

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The bad news for this investor is that Geoff believes they've paid

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well over the odds for what they've ended up with.

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This stone which they own is not terribly well cut.

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It's not cut symmetrically - one of the corners is a bit wonky -

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that has a direct knock-on effect with what it is worth.

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And this is just one of ten stones bought by this investor.

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All told, they spent £130,000 on diamonds,

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which experts estimate are actually worth just £6,000.

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Like Les, this investor had also been convinced to trade up

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from their first or second diamonds to buy bigger,

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better and higher value ones.

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It's a familiar tale to Geoff.

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They are led to believe they've already made money on their

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original purchase, but rather than have that money returned to them,

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they're given the opportunity to roll that up to another stone,

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pay a balance and own an even more valuable stone, as they see it.

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But in cases like this, the stones are rarely if ever

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worth what the buyer has paid, or what the extremely convincing

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sales staff say they might be worth in the future.

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The people who are actually selling the stones to the clients who buy

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them probably aren't gemologists, they're simply salesmen,

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and they could be selling snake oil

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for all the difference it makes to them.

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They are selling a product at a margin and they don't really care.

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They are preying on people's insecurities to make the sale.

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The danger signs in buying any investment jewel or gemstone

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is that you should buy from somebody who's got a reputation

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for dealing with these things, has got a visible high street presence

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or a company address that you can check and be certain of,

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and if the deal is too good to be true, it is too good to be true.

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Don't touch it.

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Of course, Les has never seen his diamonds or had the chance

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to take them to a jeweller for a valuation.

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So he has no proof his diamonds even exist,

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let alone how much they're worth.

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I think it's time we tried asking Solitaire Alternatives what's

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happened to Les's diamonds and, more importantly, to his money.

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PHONE DIALS

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RECORDED MESSAGE: 'Hello, you're through to Solitaire Alternatives.

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'There's nobody available to take your call at the moment.'

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PHONE DIALS

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Maybe they're taking a long lunch.

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I repeatedly called the numbers we have for them,

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but no-one at Solitaire Alternatives ever answered.

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No point hanging on for another recorded message.

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They're obviously not that keen for my business

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or for the business of anyone else who is calling them today.

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I think it leaves a very big question mark over

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a company which is supposedly in the business of selling high-end

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diamonds as an investment opportunity to people,

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a very big question mark indeed.

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For a company that was particularly keen to stay in touch with Les

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when he had money to invest,

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Solitaire Alternatives now seem surprisingly hard to get hold of.

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We've also left voicemails, e-mailed and written to them,

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but they've simply not replied to any of our attempts to talk to them.

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And since we last tried to contact them,

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it also seems their website is no longer accessible.

0:40:340:40:37

Unfortunately for Les, that means we've not been able to find out

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whether he will ever see his money again, which would seem to confirm

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the suspicions of his daughter Christine and son-in-law Douglas.

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It's sad...because it would be nice for Les to find out

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that what he had invested in was worthwhile.

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And, really, he's not doing it for himself.

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He's thinking that for his family, at some point, they will get

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the value of these things, and we don't think we will.

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We don't think there's any way that's going to happen.

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Here at Rip-Off Britain, we're always ready to investigate

0:41:140:41:18

more of your stories.

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You can write to us at...

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Or send us an e-mail to...

0:41:290:41:31

The Rip-Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories.

0:41:340:41:38

It's almost certain that any investment promising high returns

0:41:410:41:44

is going to be a risky one and, in some cases, as we've heard,

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there could even be a question mark

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over whether your money has been invested in anything at all.

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So, whether you have a few hundred or even a few thousand pounds

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at your disposal, it pays to do your research before you invest

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in anything at all.

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And our website - bbc.co.uk/ripoffbritain -

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is a great place to start

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because that's where you'll find details of where to look for help

0:42:070:42:10

with your money and, most importantly,

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advice on how to say no to those hard sales tactics.

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Absolutely, because time spent going through all of that really is

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an investment that we can recommend.

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But I'm afraid that's where we've got to leave it for today,

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so we'll be back very, very soon to investigate more of your stories.

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-Until then, thanks for watching and from all of us, bye-bye.

-Bye.

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