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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling ripped off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
and you contacted us in your thousands. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
You've told us about the companies you think get it wrong | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
and the customer service that simply isn't up to scratch. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
People should expect more when they're paying for something these days. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:17 | |
Everything you buy, I just think we're getting ripped off. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
and investigate the extra charges you'd say are unfair. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:27 | |
We have to rely on them giving you a fair price for something, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:29 | |
you can't always rely on that. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
You don't want more hassle, | 0:00:31 | 0:00:33 | |
you want them to honour their agreement with you. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
And when you've lost out, but no-one else is to blame, | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
That is disgusting! | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
So whether it's a blatant rip-off, or a genuine mistake, | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
we're here to find out why you're out of pocket | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
and what you can do about it. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
Your stories, your money. This is Rip Off Britain. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
Hello, and welcome to Rip Off Britain, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
the programme that helps you make the right choices | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
when it comes to your cash, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
whether you're spending your money, or indeed trying to save it. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
After years of low interest rates, a simple high street savings account | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
probably won't be earning anything like the interest you want. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
So if you are anxious for your money to grow, | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
when you're offered an exciting new opportunity | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
that promises big returns for relatively little investment, | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
it can seem very hard to refuse. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
And in amongst all the sales patter, it's not always easy to understand | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
what you're getting yourself into. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
As we'll see, however foolproof or glamorous it might appear, | 0:01:35 | 0:01:39 | |
even the most dazzling investment opportunity | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
can quickly lose its sparkle if it doesn't deliver what was promised. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
Coming up, a company that promises glittering returns on diamonds | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
that you may never even see. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:52 | |
I didn't come into this to keep the diamonds forever, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
I'm not James Bond. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
We don't think there is a diamond that we're going to get | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
and we don't think he's going to get his money back. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
And it's glamorous, exciting, | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
and you might even get your 30 seconds on the red carpet, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:10 | |
but just how risky is investing in the movie business? | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
The actors' agents had never heard of such a film, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:17 | |
they'd never been contacted regarding this film. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
So for me, at that point, it was like 100%, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:23 | |
I knew, it wasn't as it had been sold. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
They're said to be forever and a girl's best friend, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
so what is there not to love about diamonds? | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
Well, particularly if the ones you own are going up in value. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
And that is pretty much the sales pitch that's used by a company | 0:02:39 | 0:02:43 | |
that cold-calls, offering diamonds as an investment opportunity. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:48 | |
Sadly, the promises they make can quickly lose their sparkle. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
Diamonds, | 0:02:55 | 0:02:56 | |
the ultimate statement in wealth and glamour | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
and the epitome of romance and luxury. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
In recent years their value has increased so much | 0:03:01 | 0:03:03 | |
that the global market is now worth £42 billon a year. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
It's that high-value market that Christine Ball's dad Les Goodrum | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
was given the chance to invest in | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
when he was cold-called in April 2013. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
But Christine and her husband Douglas are worried that | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
far from investing thousands in something with | 0:03:22 | 0:03:24 | |
almost-guaranteed returns, he might have been scammed. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
Douglas, good to see you, hi. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
We first discovered a letter in his house which was saying, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
"This is our initial letter with the contract for your purchase of a diamond." | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
So we took that away and had a look at what the company actually was. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:46 | |
-Solitaire Alternatives? -Yes, he gave that to us, | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
and we thought, "Well, that looks very professional." | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
But then we started looking into the organisation and realised | 0:03:53 | 0:03:58 | |
that this was potentially not as kosher as we thought it might be. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
Solitaire Alternatives claims "extensive industry knowledge" | 0:04:04 | 0:04:08 | |
and promises to help both private diamond collectors | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
and first-time buyers, like Les. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
But despite the slick website and brochure, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
Christine and Douglas still weren't sure Les had made the right choice. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:20 | |
And as they dug deeper, | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
they discovered he hadn't bought just one diamond. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
We challenged him about the second one, and said you know, "These people | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
may not be what you think," and, "Why don't you let us see the diamond?" | 0:04:30 | 0:04:34 | |
Les's response to that made the couple even more concerned. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:39 | |
He said, "Oh, no, it's OK. They're going to store it for me safely | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
"in Switzerland, you know, so that I don't have to have it in my house." | 0:04:43 | 0:04:47 | |
In the contract, it stated, if you asked them to come to your house, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
they'd send them to you. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
You'd be able to look at them through a plastic covering, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
but if you opened them, they lost value. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
Well, diamonds can't lose value because they're a hard substance. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
Did you say this to him at the time? | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
We didn't say much at that time | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
because we thought we'd investigate it first, because we didn't | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
really want to challenge my dad on his own decision. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
You know, he's 95. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
Although he's 95, he can still make his own decisions and he does so. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
Before former coal miner Les was called up out of the blue | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
by Solitaire Alternatives, he'd never thought of buying diamonds. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
And though at first he was reluctant, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
the sales rep was persistent. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
They bombarded me with telephone calls, the telephone got red hot. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:36 | |
How often were they ringing you? | 0:05:38 | 0:05:40 | |
Well, you think of a time of the day and that's it! | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
-So, three or four times a day? -Sometimes. -Really? | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
-Mm. -And always the sales pitch to buy the diamonds? | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
-Yeah. -Did you ask them how they knew what your telephone number was | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
and how they'd found you? | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
No, I didn't do that. I didn't do that. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
So, really, you had to put your trust in them? | 0:05:59 | 0:06:02 | |
Yes, I did. I was trusting them. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
Les initially bought what he was told were two yellow diamonds | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
at a cost of £7,300. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
The company was holding on to them to keep them safe | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
and Les never got to see them. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
Because, within weeks, he had a call from George, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
his contact at Solitaire Alternatives, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
who claimed he'd found a buyer who was interested in buying them. | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
And what's more, Les would make a profit, | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
so he agreed to sell. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:29 | |
They didn't tell the actual amount of money | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
-that was the profit that was made. -Did that bother you? | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
Well, of course it did, of course it did. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:41 | |
Because when I first went into this, I said I wasn't going in | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
because I wanted to be a diamond merchant or anything like that. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:51 | |
All I wanted was to make a bit of money, that was it. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:56 | |
A few weeks later, George called again and told Les | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
he could invest the profit he'd made from the yellow diamonds | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
in a more valuable blue diamond. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
He'd need to pay another £2,000 to make up the price, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
but it would be worth it | 0:07:09 | 0:07:10 | |
because the blue diamond would soon be worth over £45,000. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:15 | |
On the telephone they told you | 0:07:15 | 0:07:16 | |
you own a diamond that is worth £45,000. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
Now, what happens, have they explained, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
if you want to sell those diamonds and get the money? | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
-Have they explained what happens? -No, they haven't. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:30 | |
Instead, a different sales rep from Solitaire Alternatives asked Les | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
to invest even more than the £9,300 he'd already spent. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:38 | |
He said, "Do you want to put another £10,000 in?" | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
I said, "No, no, no, not another penny. That's it. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:45 | |
"That's as far as we go. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
"I want to see some capital." | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
You want to see some return. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:51 | |
I want to see some return before I make any further decisions | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
and that's it. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:56 | |
But that call was nearly a year ago, | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
and since then Les hasn't heard anything more from either that rep, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
or from George, the initial contact, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
who up until then had called him quite frequently. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:09 | |
You're still convinced they're genuine, that he's a genuine guy, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
and that there is a diamond there? | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
Well, not having seen it, | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
you know, you start to get little bits of doubt in your mind. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:22 | |
But then Les revealed the real reason he's still hoping | 0:08:22 | 0:08:26 | |
his investment comes good. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
The 95-year-old fears in the future he may need care | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
and doesn't want that cost falling on his family. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
You know your daughter and your son are a bit worried? | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
Yeah, but then again, to me, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
to me, Angela, | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
I realise I may have to go into a home later on because... | 0:08:46 | 0:08:52 | |
I mean, they look after me at the moment as best that they can, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:57 | |
but there might come a time when they can't. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
I mean, it'll have to be paid for, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:07 | |
that was the idea of going into it in the beginning. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:12 | |
So as things stand, Les has spent £9,300 | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
on what he believes is a blue diamond, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
held for safekeeping in a Swiss vault. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
He doesn't know for sure whether he'll see a return | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
on his investment or indeed whether he owns a diamond at all. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:27 | |
I don't want to drag the police into it. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
I'd rather come to agreement between them and myself. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
I didn't come into this to keep the diamonds forever - | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
I'm not James Bond. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:40 | |
I just want to make some cash, that was all. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:44 | |
Christine and Douglas have tried to contact Solitaire Alternatives | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
on Les's behalf, but with no luck. | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
Every time we've rung up, it's always been an answerphone. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
I've never managed to speak to them. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
I don't think you've managed to speak to them, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
you've left messages for them and said, "Stop contacting him, | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
"he's an old man. You know, stop contacting him." | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
And they've obviously just ignored that. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
And though Les hasn't heard from then for some time, | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
Christine worries that someone from Solitaire Alternatives might | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
call him again and win back his trust. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
My father's 95, he's quite lonely, and he would say that himself, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
and therefore he enjoys an hour in the day having a chat | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
with someone on the phone and obviously these people, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
like I said before, have established him as their friend. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
And therefore they're not going to deceive him or tell him lies, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
they're not going to take money from him for something that doesn't exist. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
He didn't accept that and we're not even sure | 0:10:40 | 0:10:44 | |
if he really accepts that now, we're not even sure of that. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
Do you both believe now, along with your brother, that the £9,000, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
whatever it may be, that your father has spent is gone? | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
We believe so. We don't think there's a diamond we're going to get | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
and we don't think he's going to get his money back. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
Later in the programme, I'm on the case of the company | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
who sold Les his diamonds to find out where his money's gone. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
-Maybe they're taking a long lunch. -PHONE RINGS | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
Next, a financial investment that sounded a lot more exciting | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
than most of the ones you'd typically come across. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
A scheme offering a lot more glamour and showbiz, with the opportunity | 0:11:24 | 0:11:28 | |
to put your cash into the production of a new movie, | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
not just any old movie, but one with lots of big-name stars taking part. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
So what's wrong with this picture? | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
Well, an investor who wrote to us about it is starting to wonder | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
if it's more than just the film's plot that's a little far fetched | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
because as far as she's concerned, it's been not so much a case of | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
lights, camera, action, as seemingly no action whatsoever. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
A visit to the flicks is as close as most of us get to Hollywood. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
But for property developer Sherry Bennett, the allure | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
of the movies was so appealing that she wanted to be a part of it. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
She had spotted a project which would give her not a starring role, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:09 | |
but certainly a supporting one in an upcoming British film | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
alongside some very big names, like Sir Michael Caine, Ray Winstone | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
and Vinnie Jones. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:18 | |
It would have been exciting, not just to be an extra on set, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
I mean, that wasn't a selling part for me. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:23 | |
It was more about the returns I was going to get. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
Although Sherry was set to have a brief appearance on screen, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
she would have a much more important role to play behind the scenes | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
as one of the people actually funding the film. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
It was an unusual investment, to be sure, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
but compared to other things she could have done with her savings, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
the movie business looked much more interesting. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
It sounded like a really good investment, but I actually | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
enjoy films, and especially films like, you know, Braveheart, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
all those sort of films. So I knew the returns could be really good, | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
and it was quite an exciting product to be a part of, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
because obviously you're there for some of the filming, | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
you get to go to the premiere, | 0:12:59 | 0:13:00 | |
and I suppose, yeah, that was what attracted me. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
The film was called Henry Five | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
and its unusual premise transposes elements of Shakespeare's Henry V | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
into a science fiction story set around the apocalypse. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
For me, it was along those lines of like a Gladiator, Braveheart film, | 0:13:12 | 0:13:17 | |
two of my favourite films. I mean, yeah, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
how could it not be a hit? So that was why I was getting a bit excited. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
You know, if a film such as that did go public, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
then I'm sure it would be a box office smash, as they say. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:31 | |
Sherry's foray into the movie business began in June 2013 when, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:36 | |
after hearing about the opportunity to invest, she bought | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
£5,000 worth of shares in the film from a company called | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
Alternative Solutions, who also trade in things like wine and gold. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
She was promised a potential 25% return on her investment | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
plus a share of the profits. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
I checked out Alternative Solutions and I'd also spoke to people | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
that had previously invested with them, they're more bigger for wine, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
so the client that I spoke to knew of them through wine investment, | 0:14:00 | 0:14:05 | |
and said, "Yep, they're a reliable company. They trade. They seem OK." | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
Sherry also checked out the production company | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
that would actually be making the film - Warlord Productions. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
And again, she was happy with what she found. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
Meanwhile, Warlord Productions and the film's distributor | 0:14:17 | 0:14:21 | |
announced that the first tranche of funding was secured. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
Pre-production would start in just a few weeks and they were set | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
to officially reveal details of the film at the Cannes Film Festival. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
So, with an all-star cast, a rip-roaring plot | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
and a £10 million budget, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
it was time to sit back and let the action begin... | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
or not. Sherry thought the cameras would start to roll | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
over the next few months. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
But instead of getting news of the walk-on-part | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
all investors were promised, | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
she was told that her investment was now being handled | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
by a related company called Spice Factory, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
and they had some worrying news. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
Spice Factory contacted me at the beginning of this year saying | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
that Ray Winstone is no longer a big enough actor to perform in the film | 0:14:59 | 0:15:04 | |
and that they're now seeking a guy called Robert Pattinson | 0:15:04 | 0:15:09 | |
from the Twilight. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
Not heard of him, don't watch the Twilight. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
Sherry was also told that Vinnie Jones would no longer be starring | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
in the film and there was no longer mention of Michael Caine at all. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
It's now all about Robert Pattinson which, I mean, every time you sort of | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
mention the man's name, it was making me feel more sick | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
than the first time he said it, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:30 | |
cos a soon as I Googled this guy, I thought, you know, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
him alone is going to want about £20 million to star in this film. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
From what I'd read in the contract, there was about a £10 million budget, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
so you don't need to be great with maths to work it out. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:44 | |
Sherry's suspicions prompted her to do some more research online | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
and she discovered a newspaper report from six months earlier | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
that made some very worrying accusations. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
I read an article concerning the film from the Mirror | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
and the actors' agents had never heard of such a film, | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
they'd never been contacted regarding this film, | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
it was nothing known to them. | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
So, for me, at that point, it was 100%, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:09 | |
I knew, it wasn't as it had been sold. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
Worried about what was she reading and what it meant for her investment, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
Sherry called the Spice Factory straightaway. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
They assured me that it was total rubbish. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
They was 100% sure this film was going to go to production, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
reassuring me that they'd seen this article | 0:16:26 | 0:16:29 | |
and at present they was trying to take the Mirror to court | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
to try and have this article removed. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
And it was at that point I knew, | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
you know, I knew that it was a bad move investing in this film. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
Sherry asked the Spice Factory to provide details | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
of when filming was due to start, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
and how much funding they'd secured so far, | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
but no such information was sent. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
That's when Sherry came to us. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
But it's not been easy to pin down how much about Henry Five is fact | 0:16:53 | 0:16:57 | |
and how much is complete fiction. | 0:16:57 | 0:16:59 | |
But one thing we have established for sure is that | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
just like Ray Winstone, Vinnie Jones and all those other big names, | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
the actor Robert Pattinson was never confirmed to star in the movie. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
Now, Sherry is no stranger to investment - | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
she's been taking calculated gambles on property for years - | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
but putting money into movies can often be extremely risky. | 0:17:15 | 0:17:19 | |
Even Hollywood companies make big losses. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
So how sensible is it for someone outside the industry | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
to try and get a piece of the feature film action? | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
Overall, the film industry is really not for beginners. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
It's not for outsiders. It's a difficult industry to understand | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
and I think investors would be really wise to stay away. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
It does look attractive, it seems as if it's very glitzy, | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
but the amount of things that can go wrong on film productions, | 0:17:42 | 0:17:46 | |
on film projects, and the amount of things that can go wrong | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
when a film is released to the public are so numerous | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
that for any individual, you're at high, high risk. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
It's quite possible for a producer to have a wish list of stars, | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
you know, big names that might seem attractive, when in fact | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
they may have just had a casual conversation with someone's agent. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
They're not really geared into the industry and how it works. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:07 | |
We contacted the various companies involved in Henry Five. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
Alternative Solutions, who sold Sherry the initial investment, | 0:18:11 | 0:18:15 | |
told us that after that, it had no further involvement in the film. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:19 | |
We also approached Warlord Productions and Spice Factory, | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
who in a joint response confirmed their | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
"complete intention to produce the film", | 0:18:24 | 0:18:28 | |
even giving a date when filming would apparently begin, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
although this has now passed. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:33 | |
They said that Robert Pattinson was approached to star in the movie, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
"but he passed". | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
And they also insisted that, despite reports to the contrary, | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
actors including Michael Caine, Ray Winstone and Vinnie Jones | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
were all linked to the film, although they didn't make it clear | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
whether they had actually been formally approached. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:53 | |
They went on to say there are | 0:18:53 | 0:18:54 | |
"a number of individuals who invest in films" | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
and "many people have made substantial returns." | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
And while they said they have no record of Sherry contacting them | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
for updates on the film's progress, they apologise | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
if that was the case, but maintain that she has no reason to complain | 0:19:07 | 0:19:11 | |
about anything "other than a failure to deal with an enquiry". | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
But even so, they did offer to refund Sherry her investment, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
an offer she has now taken up. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:20 | |
The man whose original play supposedly inspired Henry Five | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
once wrote, "All the world's a stage, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
"and all the men and women merely players." | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
But Sherry doesn't plan to play any more part in the movie business | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
and she certainly won't be going | 0:19:35 | 0:19:36 | |
"once more unto the breach, dear friends" | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
with this kind of investment. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
No way. Just be wary of any nice sales people that call you up | 0:19:41 | 0:19:45 | |
with a great pitch telling you you can make | 0:19:45 | 0:19:47 | |
extraordinary amounts of money, I mean, just be very wary. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
Still to come on Rip Off Britain... | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
why asking the right questions before you sign up to invest in property | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
could save you a whole lot of hassle later on. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
It was just appalling. My eyes could not believe what I saw. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:09 | |
I couldn't believe that I was sold this thing | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
and I actually own this place. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
-For one weekend only... -It's a one-stop shop full of advice. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
It's Rip Off Britain's pop-up shop. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
This year, we brought our top team of experts to the West Midlands, | 0:20:32 | 0:20:35 | |
ready to tackle as many of your problems as they could. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
-Hi, James. -Hiya. -I'm Julia, nice to meet you. -I'm Janet, James's mum. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:46 | |
'James Nicholls called in to see us after investing a huge sum of money | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
'into a Brazilian property deal that now looks like it was a scam. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
'Financial ombudsman Caroline Lusted Wells | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
'and legal expert Gary Rycroft were keen to find out more.' | 0:20:56 | 0:21:00 | |
When I bought the actual land, the guy, on numerous occasions, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:05 | |
never answered the phone, etc, never got back to me | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
and basically I've never heard nothing of him | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
since the actual date of signing over the documentation. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:14 | |
Tell us the sorry tale in terms of how much you paid over. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
Basically, we was told an initial £500 deposit was required. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
I followed that by £9,500, so £10,000 in total. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
What did you think you were getting for the £10,000? | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
We were told we were going to get 400 square metres of land in Brazil, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:35 | |
which was going to be able to be built on. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
James, can I ask you a question? How did you pay for the deposit | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
-and the £9,500? -I actually paid in cash. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
-Cash? -Yeah. Which is a sort of silly thing to do, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:47 | |
really, looking back on it now. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
'Unfortunately for James, having paid the full £10,000 in cash, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
'there was no way to trace or recover | 0:21:53 | 0:21:56 | |
'any of his hard-earned savings.' | 0:21:56 | 0:21:58 | |
It doesn't look good. If you buy land in this country, | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
it gets registered at the Land Registry | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
and you can establish ownership of land that way. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
Have you ever had any evidence | 0:22:07 | 0:22:08 | |
that you've actually ever bought any land in Brazil? | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
Only with the documents that I have with me today. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
It may be worth checking with the Brazilian Land Registry | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
whether you actually do own any land... | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
-Yeah. -..where you've been told you own it. I suspect you don't, | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
but it's worth just closing off that avenue of enquiry. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
-Yeah. -But I think this is probably a kind of chalk it up to experience, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:33 | |
lesson learnt. Hopefully, people watching will learn from this | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
and take some pointers away with them. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
-Think about going onto social networks... -Yes. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
-..and put it out there. -Yeah. -I bet you'll find you're not the only one | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
-connected to this person. -No, definitely. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
-Thanks for coming. -No problem, thank you. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
Outside, we ran workshops packed with tips and advice, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:58 | |
including this one, where financial expert James Daley was keen | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
to tell the people of Dudley how to avoid being stuck with | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
what's intriguingly called a "zombie bank account". | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
You know what Zombie's are... | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
walking dead. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:12 | |
A lot of you might have your money in what Julia was talking about, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
these accounts are called zombie accounts. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
These are the majority of savings accounts out there | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
that are earning next to nothing, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
almost zero, £1 of interest every year for £1,000. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
-Shocking. -Millions of people have money trapped in these accounts. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:31 | |
The banks make their money | 0:23:31 | 0:23:33 | |
from people not being savvy and moving it. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
'If you do manage to switch to a bank account that for a fixed period | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
'does have a good interest rate, make a note in your diary | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
'for when that rate expires. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
'That way you can switch again | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
'and avoid being stuck with one of those dreaded zombie accounts.' | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
You know, it's not so long ago that buy-to-let was big business. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
Property investment clubs were prolific, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
and many people were buying up homes not to live in | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
but to rent out in order to make money. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:07 | |
The financial crash put paid to those boom days | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
and in many areas the market was all but wiped out. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:13 | |
But now, buy-to-let is back, and in a big way. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:17 | |
The booming housing market has made this kind of investment attractive, | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
but do make sure that you've asked all the right questions | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
before being tempted to sign up. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
Because here's a cautionary tale that proves how crucial it is | 0:24:26 | 0:24:30 | |
to know exactly what you're getting yourself into. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
Back in 2012, Jason Bernard was looking for a house to buy in London. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
But his plans changed when, with his wife Michelle, he was invited | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
to a seminar to hear about a new property investment opportunity. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
The sales pitch was very convincing and... | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
part of that was representation on the side of the estate agent. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:57 | |
She told me that she had bought a property herself | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
and it was working out really well for her. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
The presentation had been organised | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
by a long-standing estate agency business | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
called Choices Property Investments. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
They said the buy-to-let market was booming | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
and now was the time to invest in a flat that, once it was rented, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
would produce a healthy return. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:18 | |
This video from the company's website gives a flavour | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
of what so enthused Jason on the day. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
We don't work for the sellers, the vendors, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
we work for you, the buyers... | 0:25:27 | 0:25:28 | |
Jason was impressed by what he heard. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
And over the next few days he says he received follow-up calls | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
from the sales team encouraging him to sign up, | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
giving him the impression he'd need to act fast or miss out. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
It won't be here for ever. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
Before anyone can buy a property through Choices, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
they have to pay to become what the company calls a "retained client". | 0:25:47 | 0:25:51 | |
As Jason understood it, £1,800 up front, plus a monthly fee, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
would mean he was signing up to an arrangement | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
where the company would take care of everything on his behalf. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
The company says, in fact, that wasn't the case. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
But either way, whatever he thought he was getting, Jason was convinced | 0:26:04 | 0:26:08 | |
this was the start of being able to make a healthy profit. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
The cost of joining it was about £1,500 plus VAT, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:17 | |
and it seemed really good cos it suggested or it stated | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
that we would be getting a yield of about 12-15%. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:26 | |
Choices told Jason about exciting opportunities | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
with properties in Barrow-in-Furness in Cumbria, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
300 miles away from his home in London. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
The company said it was a "regeneration area | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
"benefitting from huge ongoing investment" | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
with "high demand for rental properties". | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
Jason was hooked, even though he didn't actually know much | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
about the property or where it was. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
It was the first time I heard of Barrow. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
The location of the property was not really an issue. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
It was just... I was more interested | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
in what I could have gotten out of it. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
The couple agreed to buy a flat in a prime spot for £51,100. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:04 | |
And as they'd chosen one with a tenant already living there, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
it came at £2,000 less than some of the other flats | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
because it wouldn't be refurbished by the developer. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
I specifically requested for photos | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
of the property that we were going to buy. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
But there were only two pictures and I asked for more, | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
but we didn't get any, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
so it was not very clear as to what it is we were buying. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:28 | |
Choices didn't have any further pictures of the flat | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
they could send on, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:32 | |
but they told Jason that he and Michelle were eligible for | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
a 90% mortgage, meaning all they'd need to pay up front | 0:27:35 | 0:27:39 | |
was a 10% deposit of just over £5,000. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
In turn, they stood to make a 23% return on the investment | 0:27:42 | 0:27:46 | |
and in the unlikely event that the flat wasn't tenanted, | 0:27:46 | 0:27:50 | |
the management company who looked after the building | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
would guarantee up to six months' rent. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
All in all, it seemed too good to miss. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
Everything would be taken care of and we wouldn't have to | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
set foot in the place or even go near it | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
to manage it or do anything to do with it. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
We just had to pick up the money | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
at the end of the month from the rent. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
So, worried that they might miss out, Jason and his wife | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
signed on the dotted line, four days after they'd been to the seminar. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
The mortgage deal came with a solicitor already attached, | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
one Jason couldn't change. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
But over the next few months, as the sale went through, | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
Jason felt unhappy with various aspects of the purchase | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 | |
and details and fees he says he hadn't understood or expected. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
We called up the estate agent and said, "Look, what is this?" | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
And everything just seemed really confusing | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
and just really frustrating. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
But in July 2012, six months after the seminar, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
the purchase went through. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:50 | |
Finally, we own this property, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
and it was a good feeling that we are finally over the hurdle | 0:28:54 | 0:28:59 | |
and we can actually start making money out of this property. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
Meanwhile, his solicitor said he'd report the sale to the Land Registry | 0:29:02 | 0:29:06 | |
so that Jason and his wife would be named on the deeds | 0:29:06 | 0:29:09 | |
as the owners of the flat. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:11 | |
All seemed to be going to plan. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
By now, the tenant who'd been living in the flat had moved out. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
But when Jason told the management company | 0:29:17 | 0:29:19 | |
he wanted to go and visit the property, | 0:29:19 | 0:29:20 | |
he was given some news that, well, made his skin crawl! | 0:29:20 | 0:29:24 | |
She said to me, "Mr Bernard, the place is infested with fleas." | 0:29:25 | 0:29:30 | |
So it was with some sense of trepidation | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
that Jason finally made the journey | 0:29:34 | 0:29:36 | |
to Barrow-in-Furness to visit his flat. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
Having seen no pictures of the inside, | 0:29:38 | 0:29:40 | |
he wasn't sure what to expect, | 0:29:40 | 0:29:42 | |
but he certainly wasn't ready for what he found when he got there. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
It was just appalling. My eyes could not believe what I saw. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:50 | |
The sink was broken, the bathroom was in a state, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:55 | |
the water was all over the place, the carpet was ruined. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
The stove, sink, everything was broken, it was just in a mess. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:04 | |
I couldn't believe that I was sold this thing | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
and I actually own this place. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
Jason shopped around for a quote on making the flat habitable | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
and was told it would cost almost £9,000. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
He complained to Choices, demanding that THEY should repair the property, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:22 | |
but they said, unfortunately, it wasn't their responsibility. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
They reminded him he had paid £2,000 less for the flat because it was | 0:30:25 | 0:30:29 | |
tenanted, and the original agreement had made clear that HE would be | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
responsible for refurbishing it after the tenant moved out. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:36 | |
They told Jason they would try to help, although at this stage, | 0:30:36 | 0:30:39 | |
they weren't sure what they could do. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
And having seen the state the flat was in now, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
Jason's dreams of a healthy rental income suddenly seemed a lot | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
further away than he'd hoped. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
We cannot rent it since, because it's just...it's uninhabitable. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:56 | |
Thankfully, the flat had come with a six-month rental guarantee, | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
so Jason was paid rent by the management agency while | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
he tried to sort things out. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:05 | |
The fleas alone cost him almost £200 to get rid of | 0:31:05 | 0:31:09 | |
and the cost of all the repairs was entirely down to him. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
Of course, if Jason had actually seen the property before | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
he bought it, he'd have known what state it was in, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
but he believed he was getting a much greater service than | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
the estate agents say he had signed up to. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
There was not really anything for me | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
to believe that it was in a bad condition. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:27 | |
We were never told that the place was in a bad condition. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:31 | |
We were thinking that it would be a place where we could buy. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:35 | |
And since then, there's been a further blow. | 0:31:35 | 0:31:37 | |
The solicitor who'd handled the sale went out of business before | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
registering the property in Jason's name. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
So not only is Jason paying the mortgage on a flat that isn't | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
what he thought it would be, he can't even prove he owns it. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:50 | |
And while he'd like to blame the estate agent who first told him | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
about the flat, he accepts that, in all the excitement, there were things | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
he should have done differently and considered more carefully. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
We didn't really take the time to dig into the terms | 0:32:00 | 0:32:04 | |
and conditions and see what clauses were there, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
and what it really was that we were getting into. | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
When we spoke to Choices Acquisitions about Jason's case, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
they thanked us for bringing it to their attention | 0:32:15 | 0:32:17 | |
and apologised unreservedly to Jason. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
They say that they "take great pride" in their | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
"high standards of customer service", having won industry awards for it. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:27 | |
But they admit that "no matter how good the service, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
"or the market, things can and do go wrong." | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
They said they don't believe they're responsible for what happened | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
to Jason and couldn't have prevented it, but if he had followed | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
their complaints procedure they "would have offered assistance". | 0:32:39 | 0:32:44 | |
Since hearing from us about the extent of what went wrong, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:46 | |
the company says it's improved a number of processes... | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
And they've told us they've "approached Jason with | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
"an offer of help" to help him make the flat "a successful buy-to-let". | 0:32:59 | 0:33:02 | |
We also contacted the solicitor who handled the sale. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
The firm he worked for is no longer operating, and he wouldn't comment | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
on the specifics of the sale, but he did assure us that if it is the case | 0:33:11 | 0:33:16 | |
that the flat wasn't registered in Jason's name, he would resolve it. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
Roger Southam is an expert on buy-to-let. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
He says, before being seduced into buying ANY property like this, | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
it's crucial you understand exactly what you're getting into | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
and take time to get the right advice rather than base | 0:33:32 | 0:33:35 | |
the decision on what you're being promised. | 0:33:35 | 0:33:37 | |
You have to make sure that you do all the checks and all | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
the investigations that make you comfortable with what you're buying. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
It is no good relying on someone | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
who happens to ask you to go into a seminar. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
Meanwhile, Jason is paying for repairs to his flat | 0:33:49 | 0:33:52 | |
as and when he can afford them. | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
It was definitely naivety that caused us to jump into it and just | 0:33:55 | 0:34:00 | |
the excitement of having something that we can call our own home. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:04 | |
Earlier in the programme, we met Les and his family, | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
who are starting to wonder about an investment opportunity. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:16 | |
Diamonds are the commodity that he's supposedly making his money on, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:20 | |
and yet 95-year-old Les has never actually seen the stones that | 0:34:20 | 0:34:25 | |
he's been persuaded to buy, and, frankly, no-one else can | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
say for sure that that is what his money has actually bought him. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
Well, I wanted to see what an expert would make of this | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
kind of investment and, importantly, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
hear what the company behind this diamond buying opportunity | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
could say to convince me that it is all above board. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
Diamonds - for many of us, | 0:34:48 | 0:34:50 | |
they remain the most desirable stone you can own. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
And with sales of diamond jewellery generating over £40 billion a year, | 0:34:53 | 0:34:57 | |
these rocks attract the attention of any would-be investors. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
So when 95-year-old Les decided to buy some | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
diamonds from a friendly telephone salesman who called him out of | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
the blue, he believed he had a great opportunity to make some money. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:12 | |
But, 12 months on, he's come to suspect something is not right, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
a view shared by his daughter Christine. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
Unlike most other investments, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:20 | |
the diamond market in the UK is not regulated, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
so investors are not protected if something goes wrong, | 0:35:23 | 0:35:26 | |
and traders aren't held to account | 0:35:26 | 0:35:28 | |
if they fail to meet the right standards. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
Some diamond investments can make money, | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
but it's only recommended for experienced, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
informed diamond collectors. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
If I could get my capital back, and a profit, I'd be happy. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:41 | |
But it's becoming increasingly common for people like Les to | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
be targeted by companies offering this kind of so-called opportunity. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
Fellows Auctioneers in Birmingham's jewellery quarter deals with | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
legitimate diamond trades every day, | 0:35:54 | 0:35:57 | |
but recently the firm's specialist gemologists were asked to | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
give a second opinion on some diamonds that didn't seem to | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
have been traded so legitimately. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
Like Les's stones, these had also been bought | 0:36:05 | 0:36:08 | |
from a company that cold call potential customers. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:11 | |
So what sort of quality does this kind of investment typically buy? | 0:36:11 | 0:36:15 | |
This was a stone which is accompanied by a genuine | 0:36:15 | 0:36:19 | |
Gemological Institute of America report. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
It's exactly what it says on the tin. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:27 | |
However, they have paid £12,000 for this stone. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:31 | |
But is the buyer's stone actually worth the £12,000 they paid for it? | 0:36:31 | 0:36:36 | |
Geoff has a very similar diamond as a comparison | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
and the real value of something like this appears to be a lot less. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
This stone reads a virtually identical colour grade, very similar | 0:36:44 | 0:36:49 | |
carat weight, same clarity grade, could be purchased for £2,900. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:55 | |
So, the stone bought over the phone by the client appears to be | 0:36:55 | 0:36:59 | |
worth a fraction of the £12,000 handed over. | 0:36:59 | 0:37:02 | |
In fact, for that sort of investment, | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
this expert would expect someone to become the owner of a diamond | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
which is much more impressive. | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
With that £12,000 spending power, what they could have actually bought | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
from a reputable source is this stone here, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
which is immediately significantly bigger. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
The bad news for this investor is that Geoff believes they've paid | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
well over the odds for what they've ended up with. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
This stone which they own is not terribly well cut. | 0:37:28 | 0:37:32 | |
It's not cut symmetrically - one of the corners is a bit wonky - | 0:37:32 | 0:37:37 | |
that has a direct knock-on effect with what it is worth. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
And this is just one of ten stones bought by this investor. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
All told, they spent £130,000 on diamonds, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
which experts estimate are actually worth just £6,000. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:54 | |
Like Les, this investor had also been convinced to trade up | 0:37:54 | 0:37:57 | |
from their first or second diamonds to buy bigger, | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
better and higher value ones. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
It's a familiar tale to Geoff. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
They are led to believe they've already made money on their | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
original purchase, but rather than have that money returned to them, | 0:38:08 | 0:38:12 | |
they're given the opportunity to roll that up to another stone, | 0:38:12 | 0:38:16 | |
pay a balance and own an even more valuable stone, as they see it. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:21 | |
But in cases like this, the stones are rarely if ever | 0:38:21 | 0:38:24 | |
worth what the buyer has paid, or what the extremely convincing | 0:38:24 | 0:38:28 | |
sales staff say they might be worth in the future. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
The people who are actually selling the stones to the clients who buy | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
them probably aren't gemologists, they're simply salesmen, | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
and they could be selling snake oil | 0:38:37 | 0:38:39 | |
for all the difference it makes to them. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
They are selling a product at a margin and they don't really care. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
They are preying on people's insecurities to make the sale. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
The danger signs in buying any investment jewel or gemstone | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
is that you should buy from somebody who's got a reputation | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
for dealing with these things, has got a visible high street presence | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
or a company address that you can check and be certain of, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
and if the deal is too good to be true, it is too good to be true. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
Don't touch it. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:08 | |
Of course, Les has never seen his diamonds or had the chance | 0:39:09 | 0:39:14 | |
to take them to a jeweller for a valuation. | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
So he has no proof his diamonds even exist, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
let alone how much they're worth. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:22 | |
I think it's time we tried asking Solitaire Alternatives what's | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
happened to Les's diamonds and, more importantly, to his money. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
PHONE DIALS | 0:39:29 | 0:39:31 | |
RECORDED MESSAGE: 'Hello, you're through to Solitaire Alternatives. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:34 | |
'There's nobody available to take your call at the moment.' | 0:39:34 | 0:39:37 | |
PHONE DIALS | 0:39:37 | 0:39:38 | |
Maybe they're taking a long lunch. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
I repeatedly called the numbers we have for them, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
but no-one at Solitaire Alternatives ever answered. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
No point hanging on for another recorded message. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:53 | |
They're obviously not that keen for my business | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
or for the business of anyone else who is calling them today. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:59 | |
I think it leaves a very big question mark over | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
a company which is supposedly in the business of selling high-end | 0:40:02 | 0:40:05 | |
diamonds as an investment opportunity to people, | 0:40:05 | 0:40:09 | |
a very big question mark indeed. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
For a company that was particularly keen to stay in touch with Les | 0:40:13 | 0:40:16 | |
when he had money to invest, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
Solitaire Alternatives now seem surprisingly hard to get hold of. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:23 | |
We've also left voicemails, e-mailed and written to them, | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
but they've simply not replied to any of our attempts to talk to them. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
And since we last tried to contact them, | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
it also seems their website is no longer accessible. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
Unfortunately for Les, that means we've not been able to find out | 0:40:37 | 0:40:42 | |
whether he will ever see his money again, which would seem to confirm | 0:40:42 | 0:40:46 | |
the suspicions of his daughter Christine and son-in-law Douglas. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:50 | |
It's sad...because it would be nice for Les to find out | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
that what he had invested in was worthwhile. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
And, really, he's not doing it for himself. | 0:40:56 | 0:40:58 | |
He's thinking that for his family, at some point, they will get | 0:40:58 | 0:41:01 | |
the value of these things, and we don't think we will. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:04 | |
We don't think there's any way that's going to happen. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
Here at Rip-Off Britain, we're always ready to investigate | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
more of your stories. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:19 | |
You can write to us at... | 0:41:19 | 0:41:21 | |
Or send us an e-mail to... | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
The Rip-Off team is ready and waiting to investigate your stories. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:38 | |
It's almost certain that any investment promising high returns | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
is going to be a risky one and, in some cases, as we've heard, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
there could even be a question mark | 0:41:47 | 0:41:48 | |
over whether your money has been invested in anything at all. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:52 | |
So, whether you have a few hundred or even a few thousand pounds | 0:41:52 | 0:41:55 | |
at your disposal, it pays to do your research before you invest | 0:41:55 | 0:41:59 | |
in anything at all. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:00 | |
And our website - bbc.co.uk/ripoffbritain - | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
is a great place to start | 0:42:04 | 0:42:07 | |
because that's where you'll find details of where to look for help | 0:42:07 | 0:42:10 | |
with your money and, most importantly, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:12 | |
advice on how to say no to those hard sales tactics. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:17 | |
Absolutely, because time spent going through all of that really is | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
an investment that we can recommend. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
But I'm afraid that's where we've got to leave it for today, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
so we'll be back very, very soon to investigate more of your stories. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:29 | |
-Until then, thanks for watching and from all of us, bye-bye. -Bye. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:33 |