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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling ripped off

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and you contacted us in your thousands.

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You've told us about the companies you think get it wrong

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and the customer service that simply isn't up to scratch.

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If I walk in somewhere and they treat me badly then I walk

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and I will never go in again.

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You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money

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and investigate the extra charges that you say are unfair.

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You've paid for a service

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and you expect it to be the service that you've paid for.

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And when you've lost out, but no-one else is to blame, you've come

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to us to stop others from falling into the same trap.

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As a customer you've got to be more savvy in terms of what you're

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buying and make sure that it's something that you want or need

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and not something that they're trying to trick you into getting.

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So whether it's a blatant rip off or a genuine mistake, we're

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here to find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do about it.

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Your stories, your money. This is Rip-Off Britain.

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Hello. We're looking into all things to do with food.

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And while sometimes it can be a bit tricky keeping across everything

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when we're eating at home, I think most of us would agree that

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things become a lot more complicated when we're eating out.

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Because of course that is when we're putting our trust

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and confidence into the hands of other people.

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The truth is that some of the places we go to can leave us

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feeling really disappointed.

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Either because what they're serving isn't quite what we'd assumed,

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or indeed hoped for,

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and we have some surprising examples of that coming up.

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Or perhaps even because they're struggling with the absolute basics.

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In other words keeping themselves and their surroundings clean.

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So, today we're going to be finding out exactly what's being done

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to make sure that the standards of hygiene where we eat are up to scratch.

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Coming up, we've done our own tests into restaurant cleanliness.

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So in which high street favourite did

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we find something very unpleasant indeed?

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There's faecal contamination either of the water that made

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the ice or the ice itself.

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And so it increases the risk of getting sick from consuming this ice.

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And the food outlets not just flouting the law

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but putting lives at risk.

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Do you have the allergy information written anywhere that I can look at?

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Whenever you go into a restaurant or takeaway,

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you might have seen a bright green sticker, about so long by

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so deep, displayed either on the door or the window,

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making it very clear what the food hygiene rating

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is of the place in which you plan to eat.

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In other words it's a very helpful steer on

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whether the standards inside are really up to scratch.

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Or at least it should be.

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But in fact, though you might have assumed otherwise,

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restaurants are not obliged to display their rating.

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So any place that's scored particularly badly doesn't

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have to tell you about it.

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Even though, chances are, you certainly would want to know.

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So, short of actually poking your head into the kitchen,

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how can you tell if a restaurant is as clean as a whistle?

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Or no such thing.

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With stickers to show if you're eating somewhere clean and safe,

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the food hygiene rating scheme was launched in most of the UK in 2010.

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Although Scotland already had something similar.

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The idea is that any establishment that serves or provides

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food to the general public should be inspected

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and then given a rating depending on how clean their premises are.

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So, for instance, if you get a five, which is the top rating,

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that means that you are very good.

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If you get zero, well, that indicates

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that your establishment is in need of urgent attention.

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But what exactly do these ratings mean?

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Well, someone who knows the answer to that is John Thornhill.

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His restaurant in central London has a rating of five.

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So, he must be doing something right.

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So how much notice did you get before the inspectors arrived?

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They don't give you any warning. I think that's absolutely right.

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In the end the only way to try and achieve consistency, or at least to

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measure consistency, is to go when people don't necessarily expect it.

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Restaurants are inspected by local authority environmental

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health officers, who are checking for a number of things.

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How hygienically the food is handled.

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In other words the way it's prepared, cooked, reheated,

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cooled and stored.

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And they'll look at the condition and structure of the building.

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It's cleanliness, layout, lighting, ventilation and other facilities.

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What are the extra problems that you've got,

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-because the food looks stunning..

-Thank you.

-..and it's colourful and wonderful.

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But it is all out on show.

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This is tuna. Good example, can only be out for 30 minutes.

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Because obviously being fish it will go off quite quickly.

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Whereas if we look at something like ham that can be for a longer period of time.

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So we have a system in the back here which controls every dish,

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knows when it was sent up,

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knows how long it can be out for and alerts the staff when we need to

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send it down if everything hasn't been sold at that point.

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-How proud are you that you got a five rating?

-Very proud.

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Cos if I was walking past the window here,

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and seeing there's food on display,

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I'd think it looked visually very appetising but I would

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want to know that it was going to be equally good in the consumption.

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But unfortunately not all restaurants are as thorough

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as this one.

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Our team has uncovered some pretty shocking statistics concerning

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food hygiene at establishments the length and breadth of the country.

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At the time we checked there were 14,251 food outlets scoring

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a rating of just two or below.

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That's nearly 9% of all the premises inspected.

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Worse still, 973 of these scored zero on the rating scale,

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which means they need urgent improvement.

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But finding out a restaurant's score isn't always that straightforward.

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I took a walk along a busy street in London's Soho,

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with no less than 34 restaurants.

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But only nine of them are displaying their food hygiene rating.

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And that's because by law they don't

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have to put it in a prominent position.

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In fact, only in Wales would they be obliged to

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display their rating at all.

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So I'm meeting Catriona Stewart who's

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head of the scheme for the Food Standards Agency, to find out why

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such vitally important information is not made obvious to customers.

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Why should it not be made a legal requirement that they put

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that rating in a very prominent position

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so that you can see what it is before you go into a restaurant?

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Well, actually in Wales at the moment it is already

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a requirement of law that businesses must put their rating sticker,

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it's a very distinctive green and black sticker.

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And they must put that in the window.

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But not in England.

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In England, the Food Standards Agency, we do favour that.

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And what we're doing at the moment is putting together

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the evidence to support the case for that.

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Because it requires new legislation and we need to be able to show

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that it doesn't have an additional burden on food businesses.

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And we'll be putting that case to the government

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so the government can consider that case and make a decision.

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So, let's hope that it does soon become law that every food

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establishment and outlet really has to prominently display that

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hygiene rating.

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It would give us all a lot more confidence, wouldn't it?

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In the meantime, if you're planning to eat out anywhere in the UK,

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you can check the outlet rating on the FSA website.

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But amongst those scoring zero in recent inspections are

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branches of some very big names indeed.

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So, later in the programme, we'll be seeing whether or not they've

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since cleaned up their act.

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We did our own hygiene tests and you'll be shocked by what we found.

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Every year people in Britain spend nearly 30 billion

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pounds on takeaways.

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But, for anyone with a serious food allergy, not being able to know

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exactly what's in your favourite curry or pizza could be lethal.

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Which is why scenes like this simply shouldn't happen.

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Do you have the allergy information written anywhere that I can look at?

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Do you have any allergy information anywhere so that I can have a look?

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Since December 2014 there's been a law in place to make sure

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that anyone who needs to avoid certain ingredients,

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such as nuts or dairy products, in case

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they trigger a dangerous allergic reaction,

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can get the crucial information they need about what is safe to eat.

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That means any business serving food,

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from big chains to burger vans, must be able to tell customers

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what allergens are present in each and every dish they serve.

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Steven Obertelli knows only too well why it's

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so important for all food outlets to take this seriously.

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He has a severe allergy to peanuts

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so he relies on being able to get the right information

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about the food on offer before he can eat out or get a takeaway.

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At times you do feel as though people are looking at you as

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if you're being fussy and it's kind of a nonsensical reason to ask.

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And it's not, it's because I'm trying to make sure that I can

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enjoy the food and walk out the restaurant not having a reaction.

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Chicken tikka masala, does that have any nuts in it at all?

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Back in 2013, before the new laws came in, Steven was given the

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wrong information when he ordered a curry from an Indian takeaway.

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I rang up, ordered the food as normal, to which

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when I order the food and then say, "Can you make sure it's no nuts?"

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99% of the time the guy at the other end would say,

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"Oh, is it Steve ringing again?"

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Now that, it makes you feel comfortable.

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But soon after starting to eat his curry

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he realised something was horribly wrong.

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Within two mouthfuls of the chicken tikka masala

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I knew that there was nuts in there.

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Steven's lips immediately began to swell

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and he was struggling to breathe before being admitted to hospital.

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If I hadn't have administered my Epipen

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and took the action I had I wouldn't be here today.

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So what had gone wrong?

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Well, it turns out that the curry house was unaware that a new

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bought in ingredient contained ground peanuts.

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But while the curry house admitted fault and paid compensation

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to Steven, he's painfully aware of what could have happened.

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12 years ago his sister Kate died after a severe reaction to a curry.

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It too contained peanuts

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and she shared the same allergy as her brother.

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So you can see why Steven and Kate's mother Sue thinks it's

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so vital that everyone serving food gets this right.

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It needs to be regulated more to make sure that these restaurants

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and takeaways, any food establishment in fact,

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know what they're doing, what they're serving to people.

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And that they do have this information to hand to any

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customers. If they don't make the products themselves,

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that they're serving, they need to get a full list of ingredients.

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Of course, that's what the law now says.

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But worryingly, when the Royal Society for Public Health paid random visits

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to 65 different takeaways in and around London,

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they found that 70% were not complying with the new rules.

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We found incredibly low levels of compliance in the takeaway

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sector as a whole.

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We found around two thirds weren't providing

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the information in the way that they needed to be providing it.

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Four out of five had no sort of system in place to make

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sure that they were giving consistent information to

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customers, which is quite shocking.

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And some of the worst offenders in the survey were Indian restaurants,

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now generally accepted as Britain's favourite type of takeaway.

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But also where Steven

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and his sister had come across such dangerous allergens in their food.

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So we decided to do some tests of our own at the Indian

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restaurants not far from the Rip-Off Britain office on Manchester's

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famous Curry Mile.

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We went to 15 curry houses at random to see if they could tell us

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at random if any of the 14 main allergens were in their food.

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Whether they put details on a written list on the menu,

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or simply give it verbally when asked,

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staff must now be able to provide that information.

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Trouble is, as you'll see, that's not always happening.

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Does the chicken korma contain peanuts?

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Does it contain peanuts?

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Do you have a list of any of the...

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Of the 15 we visited, 12 were either pretty vague about what

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their food contained or appeared to have no idea at all.

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Just three were able to supply us

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with the full information that the law says they should.

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Do you have a list of what allergens...

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OK, it's a long list.

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It goes on and on.

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Thanks.

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Many of the takeaways we visited did state on their menus...

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But under the new rules this simply doesn't go far enough.

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They're legally required to say exactly what

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allergens are in which dishes.

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Instead, this is a typical example of what we found.

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Which one's got nuts in then? Cos I just...

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So if I fancied a korma?

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So has it got peanuts in it?

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This story took on an even greater urgency in May 2016 after

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Yorkshire restaurateur Mohammed Zaman was found

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guilty of the manslaughter of Paul Wilson, who was served chicken tikka

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masala containing peanuts, despite making clear he had an allergy.

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So until the new laws are fully enforced our findings will do

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nothing to ease the fears of countless people

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affected by food allergies, including the Obertelli family,

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that whenever they eat out they may be dicing with death.

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I think it's pathetic that any takeaway or restaurant or

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food establishment that doesn't comply with the new legislation.

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Why would you want to have the potential

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fatality of a customer hanging over your head?

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Next, something that's a real bugbear for a lot of you.

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Now we know from all the e-mails

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and letters we get about this just how fed up

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some of you are with the way that food packaging sometimes

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disguises how little of the actual product might be tucked away inside.

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Some of the cereals you buy are three quarters full.

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Crisp bags, they're half full. Sweet packets are half full.

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I've had it with like cakes.

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You know, they're in a massive box and there's polystyrene in it

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And then when you get to the cake there's hardly anything there.

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Normally when you buy a large bag of potato chips you will find

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that by the time you've opened them up

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and the air's come out the bag is that full, not that full.

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Well, a number of you have written to us

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about exactly this subject after being

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disappointed by the contents of the packaging you've bought,

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Wendy Rollin from Carmarthenshire for one.

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She has Coeliac Disease,

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an autoimmune disease affecting the digestive system.

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There's not a lot of choice

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when it comes to coeliacs for breakfast cereals.

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It's mainly cornflakes.

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When I saw the box of Tesco Special Flakes I thought, mm,

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not a bad price, I'll give them a go.

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I opened the box and I thought, oh, where's the inner bag.

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And I peered in and I thought oh, that's a bit low.

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So, I pulled it out and I put it alongside like that and I thought,

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well, surely they could have filled the box up with more cereal.

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Because I thought I'd got a box full of cereal.

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Now, of course manufacturers are not breaking any

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rules by selling their products in oversized packaging.

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And Wendy's cornflakes are by no means the only,

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or indeed the worst, offender.

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So I met up with author

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and shopping psychologist Phillip Adcock to get his take

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on a few other products that contain a little less than meets the eye.

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When I look at something like this, I think to myself,

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I mean look at that.

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It's just about a third full.

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It's ridiculous, I mean why would people pick up a bag of them?

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Psychologically we'll always go for the bigger packet.

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And, dare I say, children definitely like the bigger packet cos

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they think there's more in it.

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So I'm going to let you open the packet cos as I get older

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I can't open any packet at all.

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So we're going to see how many more in fact we could get in.

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So that holds five to start with.

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Five, only five. Gosh.

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Shall I count them in?

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Six, seven,

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eight, nine,

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ten, eleven, twelve.

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Thirteen, I'm not going to put it up too high.

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-Fourteen, I think it would take

-fifteen. Fifteen would be about the maximum.

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Fifteen. And that would still stack on the shelf.

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Now that is terrible, isn't it?

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So you could quite easily fit in three times as many mini

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moons in this packet as Tesco currently puts in.

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I would feel hoodwinked about this packaging.

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So what is the answer to that in terms of the manufacturer?

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It's who can be good and shrink their pack.

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Cos as soon as one shrinks the pack theirs

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is smaller than everybody else's.

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And so suddenly it doesn't look as good value.

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Let's try another and this one, I must say, I do find extraordinary.

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So it says here five lunchtime loaves.

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I would expect that it would be right up to the top.

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Instead it looked like they'd missed one out.

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So, generally speaking,

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is the product inside the bag getting smaller?

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Over the years the supermarkets have negotiated harder

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and harder to get us better prices. That's actually a good thing.

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It gets to the stage where the brands that supply them

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can't make it for the money.

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So they have to, what they call, value engineer the products.

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Basically give less in the pack.

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And here's another product.

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It's a favourite of my grandchildren for sure, popcorn.

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So not quite half.

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That's less than half full.

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See if I open that and go to stick my hand in it, which I would,

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I'd sort of think, oh, who's been eating the remainder?

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It looks like somebody's had half the bag, doesn't it?

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Back in Wales, Wendy is keen to gauge public opinion on the matter.

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Now, she's taken her half empty cereal packet to Carmarthen to ask

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shoppers if they feel short-changed by the oversized packaging.

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If you were buying this packet of cereal where would you expect

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the contents to come up to?

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-You think a bit higher?

-Yes, I'd say probably about at least up to there.

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If I show you that that's actually where it comes up to what

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would you say, I wonder?

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Not good. It is misleading.

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Oh, my gosh, that is, wow. That is low, isn't it?

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I think that's a little bit unfair to present something in a box

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that's so much too big for it.

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Well, it's a rip off, isn't it?

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Because it's more or less half the size.

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Well, Wendy didn't really find many people who disagreed with her.

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But when we asked Tesco about its packaging of this product,

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and indeed about those Mini Moon cheeses I saw,

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the company didn't want to comment.

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We also contacted Soreen, the maker of those lunchbox loaves,

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who told us that after getting similar feedback from its own

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customers it's now introduced a new pack, reducing the packaging by 30%.

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And Asda, which sells the popcorn, explained that corn can

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expand to different sizes and air is required to protect the popped corn.

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But the production line will detect and discard...

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But as we dash around the supermarkets falling

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foul of oversized packaging, Phillip suggests that we start

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thinking differently about the things we choose to buy.

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First thing I would do is I would do start to try and ignore,

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this is going to sound strange, the price.

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Pay attention to the little number in the corner which is

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the pence per gram, pence per litre. Compare those.

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And that's the second point, don't just say a pound or a kilo,

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that's about right.

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Look to either side, compare.

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Thirdly take your glasses.

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Remember the glasses, I agree with that.

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Earlier in the programme we looked at the food hygiene ratings

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that you should be able to spot on the doors or windows of most

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restaurants and takeaways.

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And while you might hope that only a handful of places would get

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the lowest possible score, which is a zero,

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there are more than you would think.

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Indeed, the odd branch of some very big names are among them.

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You'd expect any establishment that gets a damning zero hygiene

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rating to do all it can to immediately put things right.

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But to find out for sure we put it to the test.

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Helping us out was medical microbiologist

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Dr Margarita Gomez Escalada from Leeds Beckett University.

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She's an expert in the bacteria that lurk in restaurants

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and knows how crucial it is for premises to tackle them.

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The food can be utilised by microorganisms to grow.

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And obviously microorganisms can potentially cause disease.

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What they can cause varies hugely.

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It can go from an upset stomach and diarrhoea to extreme cases.

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The likes of salmonella has been reported to cause death.

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All the more reason for anywhere with a low hygiene score to

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address their issues right away.

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So we carried out some checks of our own at places which had

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recently rated zero in their official inspection to get

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a snapshot of whether standards had improved.

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And we chose branches of some of the best known names in the country

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who you'd imagine might have the resources to raise their game.

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So we went to this Costa in Loughborough, Chicken Cottage

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in Hampstead, this Caffe Nero in Bath, the Wimpy in Basildon

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and finally this KFC in Birmingham.

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At each site we took swabs from up to four of the key publicly

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accessible parts of the restaurant.

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We also asked for some ice or water in a takeaway cup

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and we sent all the samples to be analysed in Dr Gomez Escalada's lab.

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We tested tabletops, trays, self-service areas

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and the hand plates in the bathroom.

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And the reason we tested them is what someone would be exposed to.

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So once the scientists had finished their tests how did each

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place scrub up?

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Well, in our tests the Costa Coffee in Loughborough

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and the Wimpy in Basildon got a clean bill of health.

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And both have since been officially reinspected.

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The Costa is now rating the maximum five and the Wimpy a four.

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This Finchley Road branch of Chicken Cottage also did well in our test.

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We sampled the tray, the table and the doorplate.

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And we found the levels of hygiene at that

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establishment are acceptable.

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But, just weeks later, it received another hygiene

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rating of zero following an inspection in March.

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The premises are officially classed as high priority

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and will be resinpsected every six months.

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The branch of Chicken Cottage told us that the inspection had taken

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place while remedial and emergency works were being carried out.

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But that these are now complete.

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The restaurant said it looks forward to...

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Meanwhile, back with our results,

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and Caffe Nero on the high street in Bath wasn't totally squeaky clean.

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One thing that struck me when I was actually transferring

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the bacteria on to the plate is that the swabs were actually very dirty.

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And if I show you an example.

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This is the self-service area.

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And this is the swab, and if you can see the swab is actually dirty.

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There was no evidence of dangerous bacteria

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but there were significant levels of other microorganisms.

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In the self-service area, which is this plate,

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that's more than 500 colonies there.

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Hard to estimate actually, there's so many.

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None of that should present any risk

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but Dr Gomez Escalada wasn't especially impressed.

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Because the level of bacteria are so high indicates that the

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levels of hygiene are not particularly great.

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When we put these findings to Caffe Nero it told us that the

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issues that led to its zero rating were...

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By bringing forward a planned refurbishment they've already

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been addressed.

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And it pointed out that since our visit the branch has been

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reinspected and awarded the maximum rating of five.

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That leaves just this KFC in Birmingham's Martineau Place.

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Our tests on their tabletop, door plate

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and self-service areas all came back clear.

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But the cup of ice that staff gave us was a different story.

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Our tests turned up what scientists call faecal coliforms,

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a kind of bacteria which, I'm afraid, are found in faeces.

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We found high levels of bacteria in the ice sample we got.

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The presence of faecal coliforms suggests that there's faecal

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contamination.

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And so it increases the risk of getting sick from consuming

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this ice.

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When we spoke to KFC it told us that a reinspection

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after our testing rerated the restaurant with...

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And a further inspection after this report first went out again

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gave the restaurant the top score.

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KFC went on to say it takes...

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..with 97% of its restaurants achieving a score of four or above.

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But even one with a zero rating was...

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So it worked with a specialist third party consultant to get

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standards back up.

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As for our findings it said, while pleased to see

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from the tests that the restaurant was very clean, it was...

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It then undertook an urgent retraining

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programme on standards for...

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KFC went on to say that it's right behind the food hygiene

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rating scheme which it says the public can trust.

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We also contacted the Food Standards Agency which confirmed that

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businesses given ratings of zero or one must make urgent or major

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improvements.

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And, if it's considered that there's an imminent risk to health,

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part or all of the business may be closed down.

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But if you're eating out and aren't sure if a place is up to scratch,

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well, perhaps it's safest to simply use your eyes and your nose.

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If it doesn't look good then really do

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they actually care about their customers?

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What's it like behind the scenes?

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Go in the toilets, see what it looks like in there.

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If they can't get that right I'm sure

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they won't have got the kitchen right.

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Well, that's almost it from us for today.

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But I don't know about you guys,

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but I have to say I was absolutely shocked to see just quite how

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many restaurants and cafes scored that zero rating for cleanliness and hygiene.

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-Scary.

-It is, isn't it?

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And, while of course you can probably see why they're not going to want

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to be shouting that result from the rooftops, it's certainly

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information that I would want to know before venturing inside.

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I agree with you, Angela, it does seem ridiculous that such

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vital information doesn't have to be more clearly displayed.

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But, whether it's the quality of the establishment or

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the quality of what you're actually eating,

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let us know if things don't pass the muster the next time you eat out.

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And it could be your story we'll be looking at on the future programmes.

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But in the meantime thanks for joining us today and,

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wherever you're having your next meal,

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we hope it's a good one, a safe one and a clean one.

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-True.

-So from all of us, goodbye.

-Bye-bye.

-Bye-bye.

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