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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling ripped off | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
and you contacted us in your thousands. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
You've told us about the companies you think get it wrong | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
and the customer service that simply isn't up to scratch. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
If I walk in somewhere and they treat me badly then I walk | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
and I will never go in again. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
and investigate the extra charges that you say are unfair. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
You've paid for a service | 0:00:24 | 0:00:25 | |
and you expect it to be the service that you've paid for. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
And when you've lost out, but no-one else is to blame, you've come | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
to us to stop others from falling into the same trap. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
As a customer you've got to be more savvy in terms of what you're | 0:00:35 | 0:00:38 | |
buying and make sure that it's something that you want or need | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
and not something that they're trying to trick you into getting. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
So whether it's a blatant rip off or a genuine mistake, we're | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
here to find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
Your stories, your money. This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:58 | |
Hello. We're looking into all things to do with food. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:03 | |
And while sometimes it can be a bit tricky keeping across everything | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
when we're eating at home, I think most of us would agree that | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
things become a lot more complicated when we're eating out. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
Because of course that is when we're putting our trust | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
and confidence into the hands of other people. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
The truth is that some of the places we go to can leave us | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
feeling really disappointed. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
Either because what they're serving isn't quite what we'd assumed, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
or indeed hoped for, | 0:01:25 | 0:01:26 | |
and we have some surprising examples of that coming up. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
Or perhaps even because they're struggling with the absolute basics. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
In other words keeping themselves and their surroundings clean. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
So, today we're going to be finding out exactly what's being done | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
to make sure that the standards of hygiene where we eat are up to scratch. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:43 | |
Coming up, we've done our own tests into restaurant cleanliness. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:47 | |
So in which high street favourite did | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
we find something very unpleasant indeed? | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
There's faecal contamination either of the water that made | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
the ice or the ice itself. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
And so it increases the risk of getting sick from consuming this ice. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:02 | |
And the food outlets not just flouting the law | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
but putting lives at risk. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
Do you have the allergy information written anywhere that I can look at? | 0:02:07 | 0:02:11 | |
Whenever you go into a restaurant or takeaway, | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
you might have seen a bright green sticker, about so long by | 0:02:18 | 0:02:23 | |
so deep, displayed either on the door or the window, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
making it very clear what the food hygiene rating | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
is of the place in which you plan to eat. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
In other words it's a very helpful steer on | 0:02:31 | 0:02:33 | |
whether the standards inside are really up to scratch. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
Or at least it should be. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:38 | |
But in fact, though you might have assumed otherwise, | 0:02:38 | 0:02:41 | |
restaurants are not obliged to display their rating. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:45 | |
So any place that's scored particularly badly doesn't | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
have to tell you about it. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:49 | |
Even though, chances are, you certainly would want to know. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
So, short of actually poking your head into the kitchen, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
how can you tell if a restaurant is as clean as a whistle? | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
Or no such thing. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
With stickers to show if you're eating somewhere clean and safe, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
the food hygiene rating scheme was launched in most of the UK in 2010. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
Although Scotland already had something similar. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
The idea is that any establishment that serves or provides | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
food to the general public should be inspected | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
and then given a rating depending on how clean their premises are. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
So, for instance, if you get a five, which is the top rating, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
that means that you are very good. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
If you get zero, well, that indicates | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
that your establishment is in need of urgent attention. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:38 | |
But what exactly do these ratings mean? | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
Well, someone who knows the answer to that is John Thornhill. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:46 | |
His restaurant in central London has a rating of five. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
So, he must be doing something right. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:52 | |
So how much notice did you get before the inspectors arrived? | 0:03:52 | 0:03:56 | |
They don't give you any warning. I think that's absolutely right. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
In the end the only way to try and achieve consistency, or at least to | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
measure consistency, is to go when people don't necessarily expect it. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:07 | |
Restaurants are inspected by local authority environmental | 0:04:07 | 0:04:11 | |
health officers, who are checking for a number of things. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
How hygienically the food is handled. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
In other words the way it's prepared, cooked, reheated, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
cooled and stored. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
And they'll look at the condition and structure of the building. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
It's cleanliness, layout, lighting, ventilation and other facilities. | 0:04:24 | 0:04:29 | |
What are the extra problems that you've got, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
-because the food looks stunning.. -Thank you. -..and it's colourful and wonderful. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:35 | |
But it is all out on show. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:36 | |
This is tuna. Good example, can only be out for 30 minutes. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
Because obviously being fish it will go off quite quickly. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
Whereas if we look at something like ham that can be for a longer period of time. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
So we have a system in the back here which controls every dish, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
knows when it was sent up, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:52 | |
knows how long it can be out for and alerts the staff when we need to | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
send it down if everything hasn't been sold at that point. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:58 | |
-How proud are you that you got a five rating? -Very proud. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
Cos if I was walking past the window here, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
and seeing there's food on display, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
I'd think it looked visually very appetising but I would | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
want to know that it was going to be equally good in the consumption. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
But unfortunately not all restaurants are as thorough | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
as this one. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:15 | |
Our team has uncovered some pretty shocking statistics concerning | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
food hygiene at establishments the length and breadth of the country. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:23 | |
At the time we checked there were 14,251 food outlets scoring | 0:05:25 | 0:05:31 | |
a rating of just two or below. | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
That's nearly 9% of all the premises inspected. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
Worse still, 973 of these scored zero on the rating scale, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:41 | |
which means they need urgent improvement. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
But finding out a restaurant's score isn't always that straightforward. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:49 | |
I took a walk along a busy street in London's Soho, | 0:05:49 | 0:05:52 | |
with no less than 34 restaurants. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
But only nine of them are displaying their food hygiene rating. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
And that's because by law they don't | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
have to put it in a prominent position. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
In fact, only in Wales would they be obliged to | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
display their rating at all. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
So I'm meeting Catriona Stewart who's | 0:06:12 | 0:06:14 | |
head of the scheme for the Food Standards Agency, to find out why | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
such vitally important information is not made obvious to customers. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:22 | |
Why should it not be made a legal requirement that they put | 0:06:22 | 0:06:26 | |
that rating in a very prominent position | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
so that you can see what it is before you go into a restaurant? | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
Well, actually in Wales at the moment it is already | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
a requirement of law that businesses must put their rating sticker, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
it's a very distinctive green and black sticker. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
And they must put that in the window. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
But not in England. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:43 | |
In England, the Food Standards Agency, we do favour that. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:48 | |
And what we're doing at the moment is putting together | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
the evidence to support the case for that. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
Because it requires new legislation and we need to be able to show | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
that it doesn't have an additional burden on food businesses. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:02 | |
And we'll be putting that case to the government | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
so the government can consider that case and make a decision. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
So, let's hope that it does soon become law that every food | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
establishment and outlet really has to prominently display that | 0:07:12 | 0:07:17 | |
hygiene rating. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:18 | |
It would give us all a lot more confidence, wouldn't it? | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
In the meantime, if you're planning to eat out anywhere in the UK, | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
you can check the outlet rating on the FSA website. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
But amongst those scoring zero in recent inspections are | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
branches of some very big names indeed. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
So, later in the programme, we'll be seeing whether or not they've | 0:07:39 | 0:07:42 | |
since cleaned up their act. | 0:07:42 | 0:07:44 | |
We did our own hygiene tests and you'll be shocked by what we found. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
Every year people in Britain spend nearly 30 billion | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
pounds on takeaways. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
But, for anyone with a serious food allergy, not being able to know | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
exactly what's in your favourite curry or pizza could be lethal. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
Which is why scenes like this simply shouldn't happen. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
Do you have the allergy information written anywhere that I can look at? | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
Do you have any allergy information anywhere so that I can have a look? | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
Since December 2014 there's been a law in place to make sure | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
that anyone who needs to avoid certain ingredients, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
such as nuts or dairy products, in case | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
they trigger a dangerous allergic reaction, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:32 | |
can get the crucial information they need about what is safe to eat. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
That means any business serving food, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
from big chains to burger vans, must be able to tell customers | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
what allergens are present in each and every dish they serve. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
Steven Obertelli knows only too well why it's | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
so important for all food outlets to take this seriously. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
He has a severe allergy to peanuts | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
so he relies on being able to get the right information | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
about the food on offer before he can eat out or get a takeaway. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:06 | |
At times you do feel as though people are looking at you as | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
if you're being fussy and it's kind of a nonsensical reason to ask. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
And it's not, it's because I'm trying to make sure that I can | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
enjoy the food and walk out the restaurant not having a reaction. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
Chicken tikka masala, does that have any nuts in it at all? | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
Back in 2013, before the new laws came in, Steven was given the | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
wrong information when he ordered a curry from an Indian takeaway. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
I rang up, ordered the food as normal, to which | 0:09:33 | 0:09:35 | |
when I order the food and then say, "Can you make sure it's no nuts?" | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
99% of the time the guy at the other end would say, | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
"Oh, is it Steve ringing again?" | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
Now that, it makes you feel comfortable. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
But soon after starting to eat his curry | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
he realised something was horribly wrong. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
Within two mouthfuls of the chicken tikka masala | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
I knew that there was nuts in there. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:56 | |
Steven's lips immediately began to swell | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
and he was struggling to breathe before being admitted to hospital. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
If I hadn't have administered my Epipen | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
and took the action I had I wouldn't be here today. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
So what had gone wrong? | 0:10:08 | 0:10:09 | |
Well, it turns out that the curry house was unaware that a new | 0:10:09 | 0:10:13 | |
bought in ingredient contained ground peanuts. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
But while the curry house admitted fault and paid compensation | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
to Steven, he's painfully aware of what could have happened. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
12 years ago his sister Kate died after a severe reaction to a curry. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:29 | |
It too contained peanuts | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
and she shared the same allergy as her brother. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
So you can see why Steven and Kate's mother Sue thinks it's | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
so vital that everyone serving food gets this right. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
It needs to be regulated more to make sure that these restaurants | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
and takeaways, any food establishment in fact, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
know what they're doing, what they're serving to people. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:51 | |
And that they do have this information to hand to any | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
customers. If they don't make the products themselves, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
that they're serving, they need to get a full list of ingredients. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
Of course, that's what the law now says. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
But worryingly, when the Royal Society for Public Health paid random visits | 0:11:04 | 0:11:09 | |
to 65 different takeaways in and around London, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
they found that 70% were not complying with the new rules. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
We found incredibly low levels of compliance in the takeaway | 0:11:16 | 0:11:20 | |
sector as a whole. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
We found around two thirds weren't providing | 0:11:22 | 0:11:25 | |
the information in the way that they needed to be providing it. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
Four out of five had no sort of system in place to make | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
sure that they were giving consistent information to | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
customers, which is quite shocking. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
And some of the worst offenders in the survey were Indian restaurants, | 0:11:37 | 0:11:41 | |
now generally accepted as Britain's favourite type of takeaway. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
But also where Steven | 0:11:44 | 0:11:45 | |
and his sister had come across such dangerous allergens in their food. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:50 | |
So we decided to do some tests of our own at the Indian | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
restaurants not far from the Rip-Off Britain office on Manchester's | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
famous Curry Mile. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
We went to 15 curry houses at random to see if they could tell us | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
at random if any of the 14 main allergens were in their food. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:07 | |
Whether they put details on a written list on the menu, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
or simply give it verbally when asked, | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
staff must now be able to provide that information. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
Trouble is, as you'll see, that's not always happening. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
Does the chicken korma contain peanuts? | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
Does it contain peanuts? | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
Do you have a list of any of the... | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
Of the 15 we visited, 12 were either pretty vague about what | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
their food contained or appeared to have no idea at all. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
Just three were able to supply us | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
with the full information that the law says they should. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
Do you have a list of what allergens... | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
OK, it's a long list. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
It goes on and on. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:54 | |
Thanks. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
Many of the takeaways we visited did state on their menus... | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
But under the new rules this simply doesn't go far enough. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:06 | |
They're legally required to say exactly what | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
allergens are in which dishes. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
Instead, this is a typical example of what we found. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
Which one's got nuts in then? Cos I just... | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
So if I fancied a korma? | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
So has it got peanuts in it? | 0:13:25 | 0:13:27 | |
This story took on an even greater urgency in May 2016 after | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
Yorkshire restaurateur Mohammed Zaman was found | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
guilty of the manslaughter of Paul Wilson, who was served chicken tikka | 0:13:38 | 0:13:42 | |
masala containing peanuts, despite making clear he had an allergy. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:48 | |
So until the new laws are fully enforced our findings will do | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
nothing to ease the fears of countless people | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
affected by food allergies, including the Obertelli family, | 0:13:54 | 0:13:58 | |
that whenever they eat out they may be dicing with death. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
I think it's pathetic that any takeaway or restaurant or | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
food establishment that doesn't comply with the new legislation. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:09 | |
Why would you want to have the potential | 0:14:09 | 0:14:11 | |
fatality of a customer hanging over your head? | 0:14:11 | 0:14:14 | |
Next, something that's a real bugbear for a lot of you. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
Now we know from all the e-mails | 0:14:20 | 0:14:21 | |
and letters we get about this just how fed up | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
some of you are with the way that food packaging sometimes | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
disguises how little of the actual product might be tucked away inside. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:32 | |
Some of the cereals you buy are three quarters full. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
Crisp bags, they're half full. Sweet packets are half full. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
I've had it with like cakes. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
You know, they're in a massive box and there's polystyrene in it | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
And then when you get to the cake there's hardly anything there. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
Normally when you buy a large bag of potato chips you will find | 0:14:48 | 0:14:54 | |
that by the time you've opened them up | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
and the air's come out the bag is that full, not that full. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:00 | |
Well, a number of you have written to us | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
about exactly this subject after being | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
disappointed by the contents of the packaging you've bought, | 0:15:05 | 0:15:09 | |
Wendy Rollin from Carmarthenshire for one. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
She has Coeliac Disease, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:13 | |
an autoimmune disease affecting the digestive system. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
There's not a lot of choice | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
when it comes to coeliacs for breakfast cereals. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
It's mainly cornflakes. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
When I saw the box of Tesco Special Flakes I thought, mm, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
not a bad price, I'll give them a go. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
I opened the box and I thought, oh, where's the inner bag. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
And I peered in and I thought oh, that's a bit low. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
So, I pulled it out and I put it alongside like that and I thought, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:41 | |
well, surely they could have filled the box up with more cereal. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
Because I thought I'd got a box full of cereal. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:47 | |
Now, of course manufacturers are not breaking any | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
rules by selling their products in oversized packaging. | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
And Wendy's cornflakes are by no means the only, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
or indeed the worst, offender. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
So I met up with author | 0:15:58 | 0:15:59 | |
and shopping psychologist Phillip Adcock to get his take | 0:15:59 | 0:16:03 | |
on a few other products that contain a little less than meets the eye. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
When I look at something like this, I think to myself, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
I mean look at that. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:11 | |
It's just about a third full. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
It's ridiculous, I mean why would people pick up a bag of them? | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
Psychologically we'll always go for the bigger packet. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
And, dare I say, children definitely like the bigger packet cos | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
they think there's more in it. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:23 | |
So I'm going to let you open the packet cos as I get older | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
I can't open any packet at all. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:27 | |
So we're going to see how many more in fact we could get in. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
So that holds five to start with. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
Five, only five. Gosh. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
Shall I count them in? | 0:16:35 | 0:16:36 | |
Six, seven, | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
eight, nine, | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
ten, eleven, twelve. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
Thirteen, I'm not going to put it up too high. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
-Fourteen, I think it would take -fifteen. Fifteen would be about the maximum. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
Fifteen. And that would still stack on the shelf. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
Now that is terrible, isn't it? | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
So you could quite easily fit in three times as many mini | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
moons in this packet as Tesco currently puts in. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
I would feel hoodwinked about this packaging. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
So what is the answer to that in terms of the manufacturer? | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
It's who can be good and shrink their pack. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Cos as soon as one shrinks the pack theirs | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
is smaller than everybody else's. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
And so suddenly it doesn't look as good value. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
Let's try another and this one, I must say, I do find extraordinary. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
So it says here five lunchtime loaves. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:26 | |
I would expect that it would be right up to the top. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
Instead it looked like they'd missed one out. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
So, generally speaking, | 0:17:32 | 0:17:33 | |
is the product inside the bag getting smaller? | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
Over the years the supermarkets have negotiated harder | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
and harder to get us better prices. That's actually a good thing. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
It gets to the stage where the brands that supply them | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
can't make it for the money. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:46 | |
So they have to, what they call, value engineer the products. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Basically give less in the pack. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
And here's another product. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
It's a favourite of my grandchildren for sure, popcorn. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
So not quite half. | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
That's less than half full. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
See if I open that and go to stick my hand in it, which I would, | 0:18:00 | 0:18:02 | |
I'd sort of think, oh, who's been eating the remainder? | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
It looks like somebody's had half the bag, doesn't it? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
Back in Wales, Wendy is keen to gauge public opinion on the matter. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:13 | |
Now, she's taken her half empty cereal packet to Carmarthen to ask | 0:18:13 | 0:18:17 | |
shoppers if they feel short-changed by the oversized packaging. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
If you were buying this packet of cereal where would you expect | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
the contents to come up to? | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
-You think a bit higher? -Yes, I'd say probably about at least up to there. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
If I show you that that's actually where it comes up to what | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
would you say, I wonder? | 0:18:33 | 0:18:34 | |
Not good. It is misleading. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
Oh, my gosh, that is, wow. That is low, isn't it? | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
I think that's a little bit unfair to present something in a box | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
that's so much too big for it. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
Well, it's a rip off, isn't it? | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
Because it's more or less half the size. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Well, Wendy didn't really find many people who disagreed with her. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:57 | |
But when we asked Tesco about its packaging of this product, | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
and indeed about those Mini Moon cheeses I saw, | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
the company didn't want to comment. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
We also contacted Soreen, the maker of those lunchbox loaves, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
who told us that after getting similar feedback from its own | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
customers it's now introduced a new pack, reducing the packaging by 30%. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:19 | |
And Asda, which sells the popcorn, explained that corn can | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
expand to different sizes and air is required to protect the popped corn. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
But the production line will detect and discard... | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
But as we dash around the supermarkets falling | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
foul of oversized packaging, Phillip suggests that we start | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
thinking differently about the things we choose to buy. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
First thing I would do is I would do start to try and ignore, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
this is going to sound strange, the price. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:48 | |
Pay attention to the little number in the corner which is | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
the pence per gram, pence per litre. Compare those. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
And that's the second point, don't just say a pound or a kilo, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
that's about right. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:58 | |
Look to either side, compare. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
Thirdly take your glasses. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
Remember the glasses, I agree with that. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:05 | |
Earlier in the programme we looked at the food hygiene ratings | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
that you should be able to spot on the doors or windows of most | 0:20:13 | 0:20:16 | |
restaurants and takeaways. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
And while you might hope that only a handful of places would get | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
the lowest possible score, which is a zero, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
there are more than you would think. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Indeed, the odd branch of some very big names are among them. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
You'd expect any establishment that gets a damning zero hygiene | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
rating to do all it can to immediately put things right. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
But to find out for sure we put it to the test. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
Helping us out was medical microbiologist | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
Dr Margarita Gomez Escalada from Leeds Beckett University. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
She's an expert in the bacteria that lurk in restaurants | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
and knows how crucial it is for premises to tackle them. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
The food can be utilised by microorganisms to grow. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
And obviously microorganisms can potentially cause disease. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
What they can cause varies hugely. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
It can go from an upset stomach and diarrhoea to extreme cases. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:09 | |
The likes of salmonella has been reported to cause death. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
All the more reason for anywhere with a low hygiene score to | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
address their issues right away. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
So we carried out some checks of our own at places which had | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
recently rated zero in their official inspection to get | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
a snapshot of whether standards had improved. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
And we chose branches of some of the best known names in the country | 0:21:30 | 0:21:34 | |
who you'd imagine might have the resources to raise their game. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:38 | |
So we went to this Costa in Loughborough, Chicken Cottage | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
in Hampstead, this Caffe Nero in Bath, the Wimpy in Basildon | 0:21:42 | 0:21:47 | |
and finally this KFC in Birmingham. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
At each site we took swabs from up to four of the key publicly | 0:21:50 | 0:21:54 | |
accessible parts of the restaurant. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
We also asked for some ice or water in a takeaway cup | 0:21:56 | 0:21:59 | |
and we sent all the samples to be analysed in Dr Gomez Escalada's lab. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:05 | |
We tested tabletops, trays, self-service areas | 0:22:05 | 0:22:11 | |
and the hand plates in the bathroom. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
And the reason we tested them is what someone would be exposed to. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:18 | |
So once the scientists had finished their tests how did each | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
place scrub up? | 0:22:23 | 0:22:25 | |
Well, in our tests the Costa Coffee in Loughborough | 0:22:25 | 0:22:27 | |
and the Wimpy in Basildon got a clean bill of health. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:31 | |
And both have since been officially reinspected. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
The Costa is now rating the maximum five and the Wimpy a four. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
This Finchley Road branch of Chicken Cottage also did well in our test. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
We sampled the tray, the table and the doorplate. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:48 | |
And we found the levels of hygiene at that | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
establishment are acceptable. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
But, just weeks later, it received another hygiene | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
rating of zero following an inspection in March. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
The premises are officially classed as high priority | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
and will be resinpsected every six months. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
The branch of Chicken Cottage told us that the inspection had taken | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
place while remedial and emergency works were being carried out. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
But that these are now complete. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
The restaurant said it looks forward to... | 0:23:18 | 0:23:21 | |
Meanwhile, back with our results, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
and Caffe Nero on the high street in Bath wasn't totally squeaky clean. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:33 | |
One thing that struck me when I was actually transferring | 0:23:33 | 0:23:37 | |
the bacteria on to the plate is that the swabs were actually very dirty. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
And if I show you an example. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:44 | |
This is the self-service area. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:47 | |
And this is the swab, and if you can see the swab is actually dirty. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:54 | |
There was no evidence of dangerous bacteria | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
but there were significant levels of other microorganisms. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
In the self-service area, which is this plate, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
that's more than 500 colonies there. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
Hard to estimate actually, there's so many. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
None of that should present any risk | 0:24:08 | 0:24:11 | |
but Dr Gomez Escalada wasn't especially impressed. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
Because the level of bacteria are so high indicates that the | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
levels of hygiene are not particularly great. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
When we put these findings to Caffe Nero it told us that the | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
issues that led to its zero rating were... | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
By bringing forward a planned refurbishment they've already | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
been addressed. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:35 | |
And it pointed out that since our visit the branch has been | 0:24:35 | 0:24:38 | |
reinspected and awarded the maximum rating of five. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:41 | |
That leaves just this KFC in Birmingham's Martineau Place. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:48 | |
Our tests on their tabletop, door plate | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
and self-service areas all came back clear. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
But the cup of ice that staff gave us was a different story. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
Our tests turned up what scientists call faecal coliforms, | 0:24:56 | 0:25:00 | |
a kind of bacteria which, I'm afraid, are found in faeces. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:04 | |
We found high levels of bacteria in the ice sample we got. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:11 | |
The presence of faecal coliforms suggests that there's faecal | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
contamination. | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
And so it increases the risk of getting sick from consuming | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
this ice. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:21 | |
When we spoke to KFC it told us that a reinspection | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
after our testing rerated the restaurant with... | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
And a further inspection after this report first went out again | 0:25:31 | 0:25:35 | |
gave the restaurant the top score. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
KFC went on to say it takes... | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
..with 97% of its restaurants achieving a score of four or above. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
But even one with a zero rating was... | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
So it worked with a specialist third party consultant to get | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
standards back up. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
As for our findings it said, while pleased to see | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
from the tests that the restaurant was very clean, it was... | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
It then undertook an urgent retraining | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
programme on standards for... | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
KFC went on to say that it's right behind the food hygiene | 0:26:14 | 0:26:18 | |
rating scheme which it says the public can trust. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
We also contacted the Food Standards Agency which confirmed that | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
businesses given ratings of zero or one must make urgent or major | 0:26:25 | 0:26:30 | |
improvements. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
And, if it's considered that there's an imminent risk to health, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
part or all of the business may be closed down. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
But if you're eating out and aren't sure if a place is up to scratch, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
well, perhaps it's safest to simply use your eyes and your nose. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:48 | |
If it doesn't look good then really do | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
they actually care about their customers? | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
What's it like behind the scenes? | 0:26:52 | 0:26:53 | |
Go in the toilets, see what it looks like in there. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
If they can't get that right I'm sure | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
they won't have got the kitchen right. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
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Well, that's almost it from us for today. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
But I don't know about you guys, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
but I have to say I was absolutely shocked to see just quite how | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
many restaurants and cafes scored that zero rating for cleanliness and hygiene. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:50 | |
-Scary. -It is, isn't it? | 0:27:50 | 0:27:51 | |
And, while of course you can probably see why they're not going to want | 0:27:51 | 0:27:55 | |
to be shouting that result from the rooftops, it's certainly | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
information that I would want to know before venturing inside. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:00 | |
I agree with you, Angela, it does seem ridiculous that such | 0:28:00 | 0:28:04 | |
vital information doesn't have to be more clearly displayed. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
But, whether it's the quality of the establishment or | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
the quality of what you're actually eating, | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
let us know if things don't pass the muster the next time you eat out. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:15 | |
And it could be your story we'll be looking at on the future programmes. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
But in the meantime thanks for joining us today and, | 0:28:18 | 0:28:21 | |
wherever you're having your next meal, | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
we hope it's a good one, a safe one and a clean one. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
-True. -So from all of us, goodbye. -Bye-bye. -Bye-bye. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 |