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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling totally ripped off, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
and you've contacted us in your thousands. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
You've told us about the companies that you think get it wrong | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
and the customer service that simply is not up to scratch. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:14 | |
If you're paying for a good service, | 0:00:14 | 0:00:15 | |
you expect a good service and a good product, whatever it may be. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
At the end of the day, we expect value for money. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
and investigate the extra charges you'd say are unfair. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
The wool's been pulled over our eyes, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
I don't think we get a fair price. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:31 | |
I think they should always put the customer first. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
And when you've lost out but no-one else is to blame, | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
And no-one could sort that out for you over ten years? No-one has. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
So, whether it's a blatant rip-off or a genuine mistake, we're here | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
to find out why you're out of pocket and what you can do about it. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
Your stories, your money. This is Rip-Off Britain. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:58 | |
Hello and thanks for joining us once again | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
as we get our teeth into quite a mix of really shocking stories today | 0:01:03 | 0:01:07 | |
that involve all those serious problems with everyday things, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
like phones, bills... | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
All the issues that affect pretty much every one of us, | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
but which, when something goes wrong, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
can have a really frustrating and soul-destroying impact on our lives. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:22 | |
And that's certainly true | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
with one of the cases we'll be investigating today. | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
Imagine discovering you've been overcharged for something | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
and not just for a few months or even a year, but for decades. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:34 | |
You'd definitely want some of your money back, wouldn't you? | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
But as we unravel not just that particular story, | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
but other cases where people | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
have been left feeling totally frustrated with the charges | 0:01:41 | 0:01:43 | |
or problems they've been saddled with, | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
we'll have unmissable tips | 0:01:46 | 0:01:47 | |
to make sure that you don't find yourself in the same boat. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
Coming up, the homeowners who, without knowing it, | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
have been pouring money down the drain for the last three decades. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
Could YOU be doing the same? | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
Since at least the 1980s, we've been paying Severn Trent ?60-?70 a year. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:05 | |
And this is for a service that we are not receiving. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:08 | |
And why unexpected charges on one of Britain's bestselling phones | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
left this family with not-so-smiley faces. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
It was like ?100 and I was like, "Jade, what have you done?" | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
Well, I don't know about you, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:24 | |
but whenever I've bought a new appliance - | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
let's say a washing machine or a fridge - | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
and I'm almost afraid to confess this, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
I often put all the paperwork to the one side | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
and don't bother filling in the form asking me to register my product. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:38 | |
But it turns out that could be a pretty serious mistake. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
When you buy a new electrical appliance, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
the chances are you too put to one side the forms | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
to register your purchase with the manufacturer. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
But that paperwork can be far more important than it looks, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
as Lorraine Ward from Tamworth knows all too well. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
Rewind to October 2012, | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
and following the birth of Lorraine's second daughter, Lacey, | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
she decided to treat herself to a brand-new tumble dryer | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
to help with washing all those baby clothes. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
She came across one by the well-known brand Beko, | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
who, over the last 25 years, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
have sold more than 20 million appliances in the UK. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
I'd heard of them before, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:19 | |
but we'd never had any of their products before. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
But everything seemed to get really good feedback on various websites, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
so I felt trusting enough to buy it. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
Once the tumble dryer arrived, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
Lorraine is quite sure that, as she normally would, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
she DID register her purchase with the manufacturer. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
I've always registered products before. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
The actual paperwork to sell it was just like a little card, | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
and it was just a case of just fill your details on the back. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
You could do it online, but at the time it was easier for me | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
to stick it in the post. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
After she thought she put the form into the post, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
Lorraine forgot about it and settled into the luxury | 0:03:54 | 0:03:57 | |
of having the new tumble dryer. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
The amount of clothes babies go through! | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
To actually get them washed and then be able to put them | 0:04:01 | 0:04:03 | |
straight into a tumble dryer and back in a drawer | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
within a matter of hours was just fantastic. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
It made our lives so much easier. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:10 | |
But after barely two and a half months' use, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
Lorraine's dream appliance turned into a nightmare. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
Her husband was using the dryer one Sunday morning | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
when there was a sudden and dramatic problem. | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
Initially, the electric went off, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
and then he could start smelling sort of burning. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:30 | |
As Lorraine's husband entered the utility room, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:34 | |
he was shocked to see flames shooting out of the tumble dryer | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
into the rest of the room and straight through into the kitchen. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
He was screaming for me to wake up, and he was passing me the baby | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
and trying to get the car seat and my car keys, saying, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
"Get out, get out, the house is on fire". | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
The family scrambled to get out, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
as the fire tore through the utility room and kitchen, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
and waited for the fire brigade to arrive. | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
When they came, they all sort of jumped out of their van | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
and started getting the hoses and everything ready, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:06 | |
and my husband said to them, "It's the tumble dryer. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
"There's two-foot flames coming out of it." | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
The fire completely destroyed the utility room and kitchen, | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
and the rest of the house had been filled with smoke | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
that damaged most of the family's belongings. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
Going in after, it just looked like something out of a horror movie, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
with completely black walls, ceilings... | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
It was really horrible to see after. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
Lorraine had no idea that shortly after she'd bought her dryer, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:35 | |
that particular model had been recalled | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
due to concerns over product safety. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
While she remains convinced that she HAD sent off the form to register | 0:05:40 | 0:05:43 | |
her product with the manufacturer, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
she hadn't received any recall notice, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
as should normally happen if the company had received her details. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
And although a recall notice was published in the national press, | 0:05:51 | 0:05:55 | |
Lorraine hadn't seen it, so she simply hadn't known | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
that the dryer was potentially dangerous | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
and should have been returned. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
We believe it had been recalled | 0:06:02 | 0:06:03 | |
only a few weeks after we purchased it, | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
but we knew absolutely nothing about it at all. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
The impact of the fire was huge. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
With no home insurance for their rented property, | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
they were left with nowhere to live. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
But family and friends rallied round to help. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
People were brilliant. They were bringing us bags of clothes. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
Someone brought us a Moses basket for the baby! | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
Sorry... | 0:06:28 | 0:06:29 | |
TEARFULLY: People were bringing bottles, everything, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
cos we'd lost everything. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
After two weeks, the manufacturers, Beko, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
paid for the family's temporary accommodation. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
The company has since paid out around ?20,000 | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
to cover the uninsured house contents, | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
plus a further sum for stress and inconvenience. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
But for Lorraine, none of that | 0:06:51 | 0:06:52 | |
lessens the impact all of this has had on the family. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
I don't think any amount of money, really, would...replace the fear. | 0:06:55 | 0:07:00 | |
You know, it doesn't pay for that, it doesn't pay for the effects | 0:07:00 | 0:07:04 | |
that you're left with after the event. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
Lorraine says her nine-year-old daughter was particularly affected | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
by what happened. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
Anything that sounded like an alarm or an unusual noise after that, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
she would panic, she would freeze on the spot. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
I'd always have to explain a new noise | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
because it would genuinely frighten her. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
When we contacted Beko, the company told us | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
it deeply regrets any incident caused by its appliances, | 0:07:30 | 0:07:33 | |
all of which meet or exceed UK and European standards | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
and that its highest priority is the safety of customers. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
It sincerely apologised to Lorraine, | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
saying what happened was down to a third-party component | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
used in a small batch of dryers made between May and October 2012. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
Beko explained that when it became aware of the issue, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
it launched swift action, including taking out newspaper adverts | 0:07:55 | 0:07:59 | |
and contacting customers who had registered their appliance. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
But it said it had no record of Lorraine registering hers. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
The company stress that no products currently on the market | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
are affected, | 0:08:09 | 0:08:10 | |
advising that information on product recalls is available on its website. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:15 | |
It also pointed out that | 0:08:15 | 0:08:16 | |
while many manufacturers have launched product recalls | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
in recent years, in this case, | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
it traced almost 90% of affected dryers, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
significantly better than the industry average of just 10% to 20%. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:28 | |
But since Lorraine's case, | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
millions of tumble dryers made by other manufacturers | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
have been the subject of similar safety notices | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
because of a risk that they too could catch fire. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
If one of the affected models is in YOUR home, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
that's something that you really do want to know about. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
But campaign group Electrical Safety First | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
believes suppliers are not doing enough | 0:08:46 | 0:08:48 | |
to get the message through. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
The current recall system in the UK is failing consumers. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
Typically, when a manufacturer needs to recall a product, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
they often get about 10% to 20% of those products back, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
which means there are hundreds of thousands of those affected products | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
still in people's homes. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
But there are ways to quickly and easily check | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
which major safety recalls might apply to you. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
Electrical Safety First has put on its website | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
a very handy database of every electrical product | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
that's been recalled, back to 2007. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
All you have to do is type in a product name or details | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
and it will instantly tell you if it's one that has been recalled. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
We, as consumers, all have a responsibility to take action | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
amongst ourselves, which is why we've got a recall checker, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:36 | |
where people can go to our website | 0:09:36 | 0:09:37 | |
and simply put a few details in to see if any of the products | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
that they have in their home are subject to a recall | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
and then that will also tell them what they need to do about that. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:48 | |
We're also encouraging consumers to register their appliance | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
at the My Appliance website that the manufacturers have set up. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
And now, following concerns that the whole recall system is ineffective, | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
the Retail Ombudsman has launched a scheme, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
which will register contact details at the point of sale | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
when customers buy new appliances. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
So, hopefully, if a fault is discovered, | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
you will be told about it | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
and experiences like Lorraine's won't happen again. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
It's frightening, you don't buy these things ever expecting | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
something like this to happen, and nobody should expect it to happen, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:22 | |
but, unfortunately, I guess in the rarer cases, it does. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:26 | |
It is really, really scary. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
Now, until recently, we'd probably have said | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
that it was the energy companies that had the most complicated bills, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
but with the regulator, Ofgem, now telling them | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
to make their costs easier to understand, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
perhaps the rather dubious honour of having the most complex bills | 0:10:44 | 0:10:49 | |
and impenetrable charges should pass to the providers | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
of yet another essential utility. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
And, in the first instance, that would have to be water. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
Now, if you've never really taken a close look at your water bill, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:02 | |
well, it may be a very good idea to do it now | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
because here's a story about a charge | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
that was made by a water company which, in this case, | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
turned out to be totally unnecessary. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
This is the village of Crick in Northamptonshire. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:17 | |
It's a close community, where everyone looks out for one another. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
Hi, Jean! Hi, Jean! All right? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
When there's news, it travels fast | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
and currently, there is one topic of conversation on everyone's lips. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
Do you think we shall hear any more about the water? | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
Speaking to the Daventry councillor... | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
Yeah. ..she seemed a bit optimistic about it. | 0:11:35 | 0:11:38 | |
The problem started back in the autumn of 2014 | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
when rumours began that some residents may well have been | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
paying unnecessarily for part of their water bill. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
It wasn't long before the whole village | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
took an interest in the discussion. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:50 | |
There should be a liaison | 0:11:50 | 0:11:51 | |
between the council and the water authorities, really. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:54 | |
Well, I would have thought so, yeah, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:55 | |
because we're exhausting all our outlets, really, aren't we? | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
We do seem to be, yes. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:00 | |
Jean Garner has lived in her home for 48 years | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
and keeps a close eye on her finances. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
The hydrangeas have come on this week, haven't they? | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
They have, yeah. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
I am quite meticulous with bills. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
I check them, I check bank statements | 0:12:11 | 0:12:14 | |
and I suppose it arises from the days when you had a young family | 0:12:14 | 0:12:19 | |
and money was tight, and it's something that I've always done | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
to make sure that all bills and accounts are correct. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
So Jean was surprised to learn from one of her neighbours | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
that, for 30 years, she may have been wrongly billed | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
by her provider Severn Trent Water | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
for a service that she isn't getting. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
In this village, we pay two lots of water bill - | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
we pay Anglia Water for the water supply | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
and we pay Severn Trent for wastage, | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
and the new neighbours that we were in conversation with | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
said that they didn't pay Severn Trent. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
So when we looked into it further, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
we found out that the bill for Severn Trent | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
was for stormwater collection. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
Jean, along with 14 other residents on the estate, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
was paying around ?60 a year for this stormwater collection, | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
which is a charge levied by water companies | 0:13:10 | 0:13:12 | |
when their drains filter the rainwater into the sewers. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
But what worried Jean after she'd made further inquiries | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
was that some of her neighbours weren't paying this charge at all, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
so she wanted to know why SHE was. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:24 | |
The neighbours told me, "We don't pay Severn Trent any charges. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:29 | |
"Our stormwater goes into a soakaway." | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
So my neighbour and I, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
we got together and discussed this | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
and decided that we shouldn't probably be paying, either. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
So Jean contacted Severn Trent Water and asked them to investigate. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
And an engineer came out and tested the water | 0:13:47 | 0:13:51 | |
and found that it didn't go into the sewer, it went into a soakaway | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
and he said, "You shouldn't be paying any bills to Severn Trent." | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
The engineer discovered that when Jean's house was built in the 1960s, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:04 | |
it had what's called a soakaway installed, | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
which means rainwater soaks back into the garden. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
It also means that the water companies | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
don't deal with the rainwater, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
so don't need to charge for it, | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
which in turn means that Jean had been paying Severn Trent Water | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
unnecessarily for the last 30 years. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
Since at least the 1980s, we've been paying Severn Trent ?60-?70 a year. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:27 | |
And this is for a service that we are not receiving. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:31 | |
Severn Trent Water explained to us | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
that when the water industry was privatised, | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
the local authority in Jean's area | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
hadn't passed over any sewer records. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
So it simply hadn't known which houses had a soakaway system. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
The water company says it relies on customers themselves | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
to pass on this information - a fact which, it points out, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:51 | |
is included on its water bills. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
But even so, once the company DID know | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
it had been overcharging Jean for three decades, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
she was horrified by their initial response. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
They told us that they were only going to refund us six months, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
then they sent us a cheque for ?31 something. | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
We felt really aggrieved. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
Severn Trent Water said the rebate was in line | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
with guidance from the regulator Ofwat, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
who recommend that, as a minimum, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:16 | |
rebates should go back to the start of the current year. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:20 | |
But Jean and her neighbours were so frustrated by the situation, | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
they contacted other households on the estate, | 0:15:23 | 0:15:26 | |
to break it to them that they too could well be paying | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
for rainwater drainage when they simply didn't have to. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
And very soon, there were plenty of people with a story to tell. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
It's ?60 a year, isn't it, | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
the payment for the removal of surface water? | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
What baffled the residents was the difference in the size | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
of the refunds that Severn Trent Water was offering. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:47 | |
They gave me a partial refund. 20-odd quid, I got back. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:52 | |
Oh, I got more than you! It's not the amount, it's the principle. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
They've been charging us for a service that they have not provided. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
Well, after we got involved in this situation, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
there was some very good news indeed. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:03 | |
Severn Trent Water have now agreed to backdate these refunds | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
for many of the Crick residents to 2003, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
netting Jean a payment of more than ?500. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
And what's more, Ofwat have told us | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
that all ten sewage companies in England and Wales | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
have now agreed to backdate refund payments | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
beyond the current financial year. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
So, it's well worth checking your water bills | 0:16:24 | 0:16:26 | |
to see if you too have been charged for services you simply don't use. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:30 | |
Once again, we've opened up our Rip-Off Britain pop-up shop. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
This time it was in Nottingham, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
where our top team of experts was on hand to help with | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
as many of your consumer problems as they possibly could. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
And students Josh Bore, Tom Giles and Lee Smith | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
came to see legal expert Gary Rycroft about the problems | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
they'd had with their rented accommodation. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
Our oven broke, our microwave broke, our fridge-freezer's broken, | 0:16:58 | 0:17:02 | |
we had mould in the ceilings and on the walls, we needed extractor fans. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:06 | |
I had loads of mould in my bathroom and they just painted over it. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:09 | |
They did install an extractor fan eventually | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
but the mess they left... It's just not really good enough, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
the solution they've provided, really. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
We've got pigeons living in the lounge. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
It doesn't sound much fun, does it? What could you recommend? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
What I do want to find out more about is this issue | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
with the pigeons and the mould. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
There's a potential health issue there, I think. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
In terms of the kitchen mould, we had a lot over our ceiling | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
that caused the ceiling roof to actually leak. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
The mould has leaked through the cupboards | 0:17:34 | 0:17:36 | |
and it's caused them to sag. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:37 | |
When we contacted them about the cupboards falling off the walls, | 0:17:37 | 0:17:40 | |
she said it was because we've got too many tins in the cupboards. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
If you think the property's not safe to live in, you can ask | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
the local authority to come and look at the property | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
and just do an assessment of what's needed to bring it up to scratch. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
And that kind of thing will put pressure on the landlord. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
They have a legal duty to carry out any works of repair | 0:17:55 | 0:17:59 | |
and maintenance that the local authority insist upon. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
Have you got deposits with her? | 0:18:01 | 0:18:04 | |
It's about ?300. ?300, yes. | 0:18:04 | 0:18:06 | |
Between you? ALL: Each. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
There's quite a lot of money at stake. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:10 | |
The tenancy deposit situation is interesting | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
because if she hasn't put it in an authorised | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
tenancy deposit scheme, then she isn't entitled to sue you | 0:18:16 | 0:18:20 | |
for unpaid rent. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
So you do need to find out what the situation is with the deposits | 0:18:22 | 0:18:26 | |
because she could have shot herself in the foot by not | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
following the correct procedure there. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
It means you could put some pressure on your landlord to get | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
all of this sorted out. Do let us know how it's all worked out. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
We will, thank you. Thank you. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
Well, thanks for coming in and good luck. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:42 | |
After filming, the boys acted on Gary's advice and asked | 0:18:42 | 0:18:45 | |
their landlord for information regarding the deposit scheme. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
Since their enquiry, they've all received their deposit back in full | 0:18:48 | 0:18:52 | |
and have moved out of the property to somewhere | 0:18:52 | 0:18:54 | |
they're much happier in. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
61% of us in the UK own one of these - a smartphone. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:04 | |
Choosing one of them | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
and getting yourself on the right tariff can seem pretty complicated. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
The people in our next story settled on a Samsung S4 but little did | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
they know that a key setting on the handset would leave them | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
with sky-high bills and worse still, both the manufacturer | 0:19:17 | 0:19:22 | |
and the phone provider knew that the problem existed. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
We're often told that it's good to talk, but many of us | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
prefer the convenience of sending a simple text message. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
In 2015, in the UK, we sent a staggering 101 billion of them. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:40 | |
But some of the people texting on one of the world's most popular | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
smartphones have found that those messages have ended up costing | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
a lot more than they'd bargained for, thanks to the addition | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
of a little extra touch to show how they're feeling. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
Samsung has sold more than 200 million of its Galaxy S phones | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
since their launch in 2010 and the Galaxy S4 alone sold more | 0:19:58 | 0:20:02 | |
than 10 million units in its first month of sale. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
One proud owner is 20-year-old Jade Cochrane. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:09 | |
She switched to a Galaxy S4 when her old mobile phone contract came | 0:20:09 | 0:20:13 | |
to an end and she decided she wanted something, well, a bit smarter. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:17 | |
My phone battery was draining out, | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
so I didn't want to be paying money for a phone | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
that wasn't working right, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:25 | |
so I thought it was due for an upgrade. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
All my friends were, like, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:28 | |
showing me what they can do on their phones and stuff. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
I was like, "I want to do that." | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
Jade took out a two-year contract with the provider EE. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
She got her dream phone, 600 minutes of calls | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
and unlimited texts, all for ?30.99 a month. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
Every time I go to get a mobile, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
I always make sure I get unlimited texts because I text all the time. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:54 | |
Luckily for Jade, it's her mum Paula who pays for the phone each month | 0:20:54 | 0:20:58 | |
from her own bank account. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
I've always been quite happy to pay her bill. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
She's never abused the fact that I pay for it and I pay direct debit. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:08 | |
She's usually very careful. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
So, it came as a nasty surprise in November 2014 | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
when Paula received a bill from EE for ?100.92. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:18 | |
And I was like that. "Jade! What've you done? | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
"You must've went over your minutes because it's unlimited texts, | 0:21:21 | 0:21:25 | |
"so it couldn't have been your texting." | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
Baffled as to why the bill was so high, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
Paula called EE for an explanation. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
And she was horrified to be told that the next month's bill | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
in December was going to be an even bigger one - | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
a whopping ?448.97. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
I was really shocked because I thought, no way, | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
for a mobile phone bill? That is absolutely ridiculous. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
EE told Paula that the reason the bills were so high was because | 0:21:47 | 0:21:51 | |
of the number of picture messages being sent from Jade's phone. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
But Jade didn't think she was sending any. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
I already knew if you sent a picture it did cost money | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
so that's why I didn't intend to do that, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
I never sent a picture through a text. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:06 | |
Paula couldn't understand what was going on. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
How could Jade keep on running up such vast bills | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
when she swore blind she wasn't sending any pictures? | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
Well, it turned out she was. | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
These little things. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:20 | |
Emoticons. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
And although Jade didn't realise it, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:23 | |
on the Galaxy S4, they came at a price. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
An emoticon is a little smiley face, or unhappy face. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:31 | |
We use them in text speak, we use them in instant messaging, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
even in e-mails these days. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:35 | |
And because we use them all over the place | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
we just assume that they're going to be free to send. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
But the problem is when handsets have been turning these emoticons | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
into pictures, | 0:22:44 | 0:22:45 | |
these picture messages aren't included in people's bundles. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
They can cost up to 40 pence per message to send, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
and that's the problem that many people have been experiencing. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
Other handset manufacturers have been implicated, too, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
but Samsung seems to be the main handset | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
that people are having issues with. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
And of course it was a Samsung phone behind Jade's bills. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:06 | |
So every time she sent an emoticon, | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
Jade's mobile company would charge her 40 pence per message | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
because the phone's default setting | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
was to translate these text messages into picture messages. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
Now, Jade and Paula had no idea that these emoticons came at a cost, | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
and by the time they found out, | 0:23:22 | 0:23:23 | |
the Cochrans had already been charged ?943. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:28 | |
Paula rang EE again to protest, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
and the company offered her ?100 back as a goodwill gesture, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
but Paula refused | 0:23:35 | 0:23:36 | |
because she wanted to get all the extra charges back. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
I says, "Well, I'm not accepting ?100," I says, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
"because that is a ridiculous," I says, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
"amount of money for a mobile phone bill." | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
I know that my mum's obviously hurting by the fact | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
that all this money's gone | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
and it brought the whole family down, to be honest. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
ENGINE TURNS OVER | 0:23:57 | 0:23:58 | |
The one piece of good news | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
was that when Paula went to visit her local EE store, | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
staff reset the phone so that sending emoticons would | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
no longer show up as picture messages, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
and therefore preventing Jade from | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
racking up more of those extra charges. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
It was a surprisingly simple fix, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
and one that plenty of other Galaxy S4 owners | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
may wish they'd known about too, | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
because if they'd sent an emoticon on any of these phones | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
manufactured before April 2014, | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
they'd most likely have been charged | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
in exactly the same way as Jade and Paula. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
To stop that, | 0:24:31 | 0:24:32 | |
all that was needed to be done was to go into the phone settings, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
then click on Input mode, | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
and then finally select the Unicode option. | 0:24:39 | 0:24:42 | |
But for Jade and Paula, that solution came too late, | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
and although the problem was now solved, | 0:24:46 | 0:24:48 | |
because bills are backdated, by the end of the month, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
one final huge bill - this time for over ?253 - | 0:24:51 | 0:24:55 | |
hit the doormat. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:56 | |
It shouldn't be allowed, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
and I feel quite... | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
I feel as though I've been robbed of my money. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
But when we contacted EE, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
the company pointed out that Paula's monthly itemised bills | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
DID highlight the extra charges, making it clear | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
they were messages not included in her mobile phone plan. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
EE also told us they'd sent a series of text messages to the phone | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
warning the phone usage was higher than usual, | 0:25:21 | 0:25:23 | |
which could result in higher than normal charges, | 0:25:23 | 0:25:26 | |
and they stressed it's the handset, not mobile networks like them, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:31 | |
which converts emoticons into picture messages. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
So they're working with the phone manufacturer Samsung | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
to ensure this won't happen automatically in the future. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
And it seems that's been successful, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
because while Samsung reiterated that only phones | 0:25:42 | 0:25:46 | |
made before April 2014 had been affected by this, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
it also told us that this issue has been fully resolved | 0:25:49 | 0:25:53 | |
and that now all Samsung smartphones classify emoticons as SMS messages. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:59 | |
But Jade and Paula remain frustrated | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
that they've had to stump up nearly ?1,200 | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
that, if the phone had been set up differently, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
they would never have had to pay, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
so they hope their story will serve as a cautionary tale, | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
to prevent others being caught out by phone charges they didn't expect. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:17 | |
Read up on your technology. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
If you're going to buy a device, nowadays, | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
the technology is getting so advanced, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
make sure you do research on it before you buy it. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
Well, you can't help sympathising with Jade and Paula | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
about the money they've lost, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
and if you've got a different phone, | 0:26:34 | 0:26:35 | |
don't think you don't need to worry about unexpected extra charges. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:39 | |
There's a whole raft of ways that some smartphones can be... | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
shall we say, | 0:26:42 | 0:26:43 | |
a little too smart for their own good? | 0:26:43 | 0:26:46 | |
If you have a story that you'd like us to investigate, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:53 | |
then do get in touch with us via our Facebook page, BBC Rip Off Britain. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:59 | |
Our website is bbc.co.uk/ripoff Britain. | 0:26:59 | 0:27:02 | |
Or you can e-mail us at [email protected]. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
Or indeed if you want to send us a letter, then our address is... | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
It's clear that we can end up feeling short-changed, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
or treated truly unfairly in every aspect of our lives, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
and I must admit, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:32 | |
I'm really astonished by some of the stories we've heard about today. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
It's actually hard to see how some of the people we heard from | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
could have acted any differently. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:39 | |
I know, it is quite extraordinary, isn't it? | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
And yet, they have been stuck paying the price, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
when as far as they were concerned that really should not be the case. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
And the problems that eventually occurred | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
really should have been flagged up an awful lot sooner. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:52 | |
But hopefully, what has happened today is you have picked up | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
some really useful advice in case any of the same things | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
ever happen to you, | 0:27:58 | 0:27:59 | |
and if you do find yourself losing out as a result, | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
then please do let us know, because maybe it's something | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
that we can look into on one of our upcoming programmes. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
And we have plenty of those coming up over the next few months. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
In fact, I'm happy to say our food and holiday series | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
will be returning, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:15 | |
so let us know if there's something on those topics | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
that we can look into on your behalf. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
But in the meantime, that's all we've got time for for today. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
Thanks to everyone who shared their stories with us, | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
and we'll see you back here very soon to investigate some more. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
Til then, from all of the team, bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. | 0:28:27 | 0:28:30 |