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We asked you to tell us what's left you feeling ripped off,

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and you contacted us in your thousands.

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You've told us about the companies you think get it wrong

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and the customer service that's simply not up to scratch.

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And you have to call them.

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It takes ages and somebody answers the phone who pretty much

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doesn't know what you're saying.

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The customer is not benefiting and no, I'm not getting value for money.

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You've asked us to track down the scammers who stole your money

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and investigate the extra charges you say are unfair.

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They don't deserve to be in any form of business whatsoever,

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and they just want shutting down.

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And when you've lost out but nobody else is to blame,

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you've come to us to stop others falling into the same trap.

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They took the money out of my account and I don't even know who it was that was scamming me.

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So, whether it's a blatant rip-off or a genuine mistake,

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we're here to find out why you're out of pocket,

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and what you can do about it.

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Your stories, your money.

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This is Rip Off Britain.

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Hello, and welcome to Rip Off Britain, where, as ever,

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we've been busy fighting your corner,

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investigating the stories you've asked us to look into.

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And one of our reports resulted from hearing about a most jaw-dropping

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side-effect from one particular food.

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Sounds intriguing, doesn't it?

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Well, as we take a much closer look at that particular story,

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I can tell you that I found myself in a situation that I never imagined

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I'd ever end up in, especially after 50 years of working in television!

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So, as we uncover some of the secrets of our everyday foods,

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get ready not just for some useful tips,

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but also quite a few surprises as well.

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Can't wait!

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Coming up,

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we test the takeaway curries that are not what they seem

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or what we ordered.

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The results have been quite shocking.

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We've seen problems with substitution of meat from takeaways before,

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but never quite on this scale.

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And a big shock for anyone who drinks decaffeinated coffee.

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Why it still has a kick you might not expect.

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They have all got caffeine in.

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But it says on the front...

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-I know.

-Have I missed something very obvious here?

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On this programme, I think it's true to say that we've always been

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interested in unpicking some of the unexpected truths

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about the food that we eat.

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But, you know, when we first heard about this next one,

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it really seemed so extraordinary, well, really, we could

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hardly believe it ourselves.

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It's all to do with an added ingredient

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that's baked in or sprinkled on top of some very common foods,

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typically bread and cakes.

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And it's usually considered to be rather good for us.

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But we've been contacted by one viewer for whom

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entirely the opposite was true.

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It's no exaggeration to say that eating it

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completely changed his life, and not for the better.

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Toasting some granary or seeded bread,

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packed full of healthy grain and other nutrients can be

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a great way to start the day.

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And certainly there didn't seem any obvious cause for concern when Alan,

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from south Wales, ate some for his breakfast,

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one morning in the summer of 2016,

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before heading off for another busy day

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in his job as an industrial equipment supplier.

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On that particular day he was sent for a job at a power station.

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And when he arrived on site,

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as part of the standard procedure required

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for contractors to enter the facility, he was asked to give

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a urine sample for a drugs test.

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Such tests are fairly common if

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employees need to drive, use heavy machinery,

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or it's a job involving public safety.

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I've had quite a few drugs tests. Usually when I start

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with the company, I have a test there.

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But this time, when the nurse analysed Alan's sample,

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it became clear that there was a problem.

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The nurse asked her colleague to come and look at it,

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because she was not sure...

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if it had passed or failed, because it was borderline.

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She couldn't make a decision, either.

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So then she asked another colleague to come in.

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And the third one said, "I can't make a decision on it.

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"So probably go to the safer side of saying that you'll

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"not be allowed in."

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Alan was sent home and, a few days later

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when he was at his company depot in Wales,

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he received some rather shocking news from his manager.

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He said he'd had an e-mail to say that the drugs test I had failed,

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because there was a class A drug in my system.

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And what they found in my blood was morphine, traces of morphine.

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And the bad news didn't stop there.

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I was told I was suspended from work, pending investigation into it.

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I felt empty.

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I couldn't understand what was going on.

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A standard drug screening can detect the presence of opiates,

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which are derived from opium.

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Morphine is one of these drugs,

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and European testing guidelines say that the upper limit that can be

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present in urine is 300 nanograms per millilitre.

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A morphine level of 690 nanograms was detected in Alan's test,

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more than double the limit.

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To get to the bottom of how that could be,

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Alan was advised to find out from his doctor whether tablets

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he takes for his blood pressure might contain the drug.

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But he was baffled when the answer came back, no,

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none of his medication could have impacted the results of the test.

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Determined to find out how morphine could possibly have got

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into his body, Alan went online to investigate.

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And to his utter astonishment,

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his research pointed to a totally unexpected possible answer -

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the toast he'd had for breakfast on the day of the test.

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I read that seeded bread contains traces of morphine,

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because it has poppy seeds in it.

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It's true that poppy seeds do contain small amounts of

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opiates. And while you may think it's far-fetched that eating them

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could have an impacted the results of a drugs test,

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one well-known baker, Warburtons,

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actually has a warning about this on its website.

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And three years ago, at Brixton Prison, poppy seed bread was blamed

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when inmates - and, indeed, the prison governor -

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tested positive for opiates.

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As a result, anything with poppy seeds was

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taken off the canteen menu.

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The explanation is that even when the seeds are washed and processed,

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traces of opiates still remain.

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And it's these traces that Alan is convinced must have impacted

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his test results.

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Poppy seeds, it's an ingredient.

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It's not...

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something that you would suspect would be involved

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in any kind of drug.

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Nevertheless, to his horror,

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his job suspension turned to a dismissal.

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I've never been out of work.

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You feel demoralised, you feel as if you have no worth, I suppose.

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And, at the end of the day, I've looked back at it and I'm thinking,

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"All this has happened because I've eaten toast.

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"I just can't believe that."

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Now, I can promise you that, throughout my working life,

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I have never taken anything stronger than an over-the-counter painkiller.

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I mean, let's face it, I don't even smoke!

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But as a journalist,

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it's really important to me that I research my stories properly and,

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where this one is concerned, that means just one thing.

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Yes, over three days,

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I ate a whole loaf of 400g bread laden with poppy seeds

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along with a poppy seed bagel bought fresh from my local bakery.

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I then did a quick urine sample and sent it off to a lab for analysis

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to see if, like Alan, I would test positive for morphine.

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Two days later, I visit Professor Atholl Johnston,

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an expert in toxicology

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at Queen Mary University to get the results.

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If I was someone who habitually ate bread, cakes,

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that had been cooked with poppy seeds in them,

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would there be a build-up of that in my system?

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Yes. If you liked poppy seeds and you ate poppy seeds every day in bread,

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yes, it would build up and it would get to what's called a steady state

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where the amount of poppy seeds or morphine you took in every day would

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build up to a limit, and that would be excreted in your urine

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over a 24-hour period.

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To see what effect poppy seeds had on my sample,

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Dr Johnston did a very similar test to the one that, in the end,

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cost Alan his job.

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I have to say, I am a little bit nervous to know what he's found.

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So, Atholl, what's the result of my test?

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Well, you are positive for morphine.

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You excreted 13 nanograms per ml of morphine in your urine.

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That sounds terrible! I mean, does that mean that if I was

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taking a test as an employee that my employers could say,

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"There's a possibility, Rippon, that you are a drug taker?"

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If they followed the European guidance for testing of drugs

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-in the workplace, no, you wouldn't be because...

-Phew!

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..the limit there is 300 nanograms per ml.

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So you excreted about ten times less than you would need to have a

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positive test and be struck off from your workplace.

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So, if my morphine levels aren't enough to cost me my job,

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how could Alan's result have come out so much higher?

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One of the things you need to consider is that poppy seeds are

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a natural product, and the amount of morphine in a poppy seed will vary

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quite considerably depending on when it was harvested,

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where it was harvested and, in fact, when tests have been done,

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there's about a 600-fold variation in the amount of morphine in poppy seeds.

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-As much as that?

-From the maximum to the minimum.

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That's extraordinary.

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So, if you took the one that had the most opiate in it,

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you would have a higher reaction?

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Yes, you could get actually nearly a therapeutic dose of morphine if you

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took quite a lot of bread, but you'd have to take quite a lot of bread.

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But does that suggest, then, that perhaps,

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while it's telling you you've got morphine,

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that I've got morphine in my system,

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that that is not actually an accurate assessment of what my

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situation is regarding whether or not I take drugs?

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No, I think that's exactly right.

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You can't say, from just a test in urine,

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that you are a drug abuser and you are taking morphine or heroin

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for kicks, so to speak.

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When you get a positive test like that,

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someone needs to review that test and also review your situation,

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then someone needs to ask a few questions

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and perhaps repeat the test.

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And there are other foods you should declare if you go for a drugs test -

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hemp seeds, tonic water and even cough syrup that contains codeine.

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All of which explains why Dan Shears at the workers' union the GMB

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also agrees that employers should

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be cautious about knee jerk reactions to a positive test.

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Part of the point of having a regime in place - is it's supposed to act as a deterrent, yes,

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but actually, if it ends up getting rid of people in the business who've done nothing wrong

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you undermine the whole relationship you've got with your entire workforce.

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So, what are the employees' rights in a situation like that?

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Well, they are fairly limited.

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It depends very much on what the contract of employment says.

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But, as I say, there is really no legislation around this

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in terms of actual testing process.

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There's very little, realistically, that somebody can do.

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Since the shock result of Alan's drugs test,

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he has managed to get another job, but the whole ordeal

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is not something he would want anyone to have to go through.

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The whole experience of it, although it's a learning curve,

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it's not a very nice one.

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And, to prevent this, I hope people understand...

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..be careful about what they eat.

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I think it's fair to say that we Brits love our takeaways.

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Do you know that over the last year, between us we've spent an incredible

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£6.5 billion on them?

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Well, one of the most popular takeaways is curry,

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first served in the UK way back in the 1700s,

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and in recent years pretty much adopted as our national dish.

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But I am sorry to say that sometimes what we're eating may not be what we

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think it is, because some curries billed as containing a particular meat

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might in fact be made with a different one altogether.

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Each week, millions of us will order food from one of around 12,000 curry

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houses in the UK.

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But sometimes what's on the menu isn't what's in the dish.

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A recent investigation by the Food Standards Agency discovered that some

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curry houses are advertising lamb but actually serving a different mixture

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of meats - beef, chicken, mutton. Some lamb curries, in fact,

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contain no lamb at all.

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The investigation found that of the 307 lamb dishes sampled, 65 of them,

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that's 21%,

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had traces of other meats that hadn't been declared as being there.

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And though some of those had only low levels of undeclared meats,

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indicating nothing more sinister than poor handling,

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in the majority of cases it was a very different story,

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and the higher levels found suggest that the curry houses concerned were

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deliberately replacing the lamb with significantly cheaper meats,

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like beef or chicken.

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It's a deception which experts say is motivated by money.

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So we've known for many years that

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lamb is a premium meat,

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and it's been substituted fraudulently by the use

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of beef and chicken.

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It hasn't gone away, I'm guessing, because it's still profitable.

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But even with all those lovely spices and flavours alongside the

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meat, you might wonder, as I initially did,

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how the curry houses doing this manage to fool their customers into

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thinking they're eating one meat when they're actually chowing down

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on another.

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Well, Aksar Hussain, can demonstrate.

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He's the head chef of the Tipu Sultan restaurant,

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which scooped two gongs at the English Curry Awards last year.

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He's going to make what looks like a chicken and lamb curry but with

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cheaper beef instead of lamb.

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So first I take out some beef and soak in the water, like 15, 20 minutes.

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Once Aksar has soaked the beef,

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he chops it up small to disguise the texture.

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He then boils the meat to really take away any flavour.

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It will take an hour 15, an hour 20 minutes like this.

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So nobody can judge it's beef.

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Finally, Aksar adds the chicken to the beef and once it's cooked through,

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lo and behold, a curry.

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And a team of Balti-loving Birmingham footballers is going to see what they make of it,

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without any idea that all is not what it seems.

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Do sit down.

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Welcome to the world's most stylish curry house!

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OK, so just a little bit of information about this curry...

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I tell them it's a chicken and lamb curry.

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Will they spot that it's not?

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So, heads down, aim for the finishing line

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and we want to know what you think of it.

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Mm.

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Did I hear a "mm"?

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-Really nice.

-Nice, yeah, it's really nice.

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-The lamb's not chewy.

-No, it's not.

-No.

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They're eating now and the reaction is really interesting.

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I mean they're all saying it is absolutely delicious but several

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of them have said they love the lamb.

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Time to reveal the truth.

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So, what do you reckon?

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-Lamb was really nice.

-Yeah.

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-Really good.

-Was it nicely cooked?

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Yeah. A bit of a kick to it.

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Well, now you've finished your meals, I've got some news for you.

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The lamb and chicken curry that I gave you to eat actually contained no lamb,

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it was beef and chicken.

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The beef meat was washed and treated in all sorts of ways to make it more

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like lamb, but it wasn't lamb.

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A bit shocked, really.

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There's no way I would have told the difference, it being beef, not lamb.

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But I think if I had found that out, quite distressing really.

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From the quality of what it was,

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doubt I'd be able to tell, to be honest.

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The fact at that you've told us that we were having lamb,

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I think showed around the table that people thought they were eating lamb.

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So, obviously if you're telling us we're eating it,

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somebody in a restaurant is telling you you're eating it,

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you're not going to know.

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All of which proves that with some clever cooking and the art of

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persuasion, even the most ardent curry lover

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could be fooled into thinking they're eating something they're not,

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leaving the industry wide open to this type of fraud.

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And, for Hindus in particular, that can be a serious concern.

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They traditionally revere cows as a symbol of sustenance and life,

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so they don't eat them.

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And at this Hindu temple in Bradford,

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it's clear that eating beef, even unknowingly,

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would be a real problem for many of the Sikhs and Hindus who've come here today.

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If I would get

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served beef instead of lamb, I think I would be really furious about it,

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because that's against my religion, not to eat beef, for a start.

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The cow has been the top most well-respected animal in our faith.

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So any beef will be very, very offending to us.

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Well, we thought we'd see what meat we'd end up with

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when ordering a few curries of our own.

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And where better to do it than Bradford - the town that's been

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crowned the UK's curry capital for six consecutive years.

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First, we randomly selected five takeaways

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which advertise lamb curries on their menus.

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We bought one from each of them,

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then sent the food straight away to a lab in Worcester, where

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scientist Donna Hanks

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used DNA testing to see if the meat we were sold

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is the lamb that we asked for.

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And not all of it was.

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Three of our five takeaways did contain lamb,

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but the other two contained absolutely no lamb at all.

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The results have been quite shocking.

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We've seen problems with substitution of meat

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from takeaways before but never quite on this scale.

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To see if what we found was simply a mistake or a one-off,

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we went back to the two Bradford curry houses

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that sold us the fake lamb dishes.

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Once again, posing as customers,

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we asked for a lamb curry in both.

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On our second visit to one of them,

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we were told that they didn't sell lamb, so we left empty-handed.

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But it was a different story in the second takeaway.

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We asked for a lamb curry,

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and were sold one without question

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but when this second curry was tested at the lab,

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once again, it turned out to be beef.

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Well, we took our evidence to West Yorkshire Trading Standards

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and its lab went on to test a third curry from the same restaurant.

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The curry was tested for speciation, so it was tested for the presence

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of cow, goat, pig, and sheep,

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and it's only found that there was cow present in the sample.

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As with the two previous curries that we bought,

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beef was the only meat present.

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There was absolutely no lamb.

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It is quite prevalent throughout West Yorkshire.

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We've done quite a bit of sampling in this area and have found

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quite a few cases that have been beef, as opposed to lamb.

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We contacted the takeaway for an explanation but it made no comment.

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Senior Trading Standards officer Jo Hamer and her team will keep contacting the business

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with the aim of working with it to improve its food practices.

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But if that doesn't work tougher action may be required.

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When a business commits food fraud,

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depending on what offences we took to court,

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the outcome of that could be a considerable fine or imprisonment.

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As well as that, it will most likely be in the media.

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So it's the bad publicity

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and potential reputational damage to the business.

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What we've found suggests there may well be plenty more

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curry houses substituting cheaper meat

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for the kind that you've paid for,

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and if you have cause to suspect any food fraud,

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it's worth getting in touch with your local Trading Standards,

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and, indeed, with us, at the usual address for all your stories:

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Now, being Irish, I'm afraid I'm a bit of a tea fanatic.

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But I know that lots of you just can't start your day

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without that good old cup of coffee.

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You enjoy the boost it gives you day-to-day and,

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I suppose, I should be more precise and say it's the caffeine.

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Now, many of you like to keep a closer eye on how much of it

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you're having. And the manufacturers have certainly stepped up

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when it comes to helping with that. Every supermarket and coffee shop

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now offers an array of decaffeinated products.

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Yet we've heard from one viewer who had a bit of a nasty surprise after

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drinking her decaf.

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So, brace yourself, because chances are, when you hear why,

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you'll be just as surprised as she was.

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There's no denying we've become a nation of coffee lovers.

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Every day we sup a staggering 55 million cups of the stuff.

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But we don't all like the kick that comes from caffeine,

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so those wanting to steer clear of stimulants will usually

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turn to decaf.

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Most tea and coffee brands now offered decaffeinated alternatives.

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Some claim that you can enjoy a "caffeine free cuppa."

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Others say they give you "the perfect cup of coffee,

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"but without the caffeine kick."

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But, as Kath Hilderley from Peterborough was surprised to discover,

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that doesn't mean they're totally caffeine free.

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The former prison officer was due to have a heart scan

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as part of ongoing treatment for an old work injury.

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And she was told to avoid caffeine for the 24 hours beforehand.

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She thought nothing of drinking decaf coffee instead.

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When I got to the hospital, one of the nurses said,

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"Right, what have you eaten for the last 24 hours?"

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I said, "Decaf coffee," and that's when she said,

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"There's caffeine in decaf coffee.

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"You cannot have the scan."

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Kath was astonished.

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But the nurse was adamant that there was caffeine in her system,

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so her scan had to be cancelled.

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I was angry.

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I was upset because I thought by having decaf coffee was no caffeine.

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I thought that was the right thing to do.

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In fact, decaf coffee does still contain caffeine,

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which the hospital involved says it made clear in the leaflet that they send to patients.

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Upset by her experience, Kath got in touch with Kenco,

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asking why its decaf coffee has no mention of its caffeine content

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on the label.

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The company replied, confirming that the product does contain caffeine,

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but only a small amount.

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0.3 mg of it, compared to 65 mg

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that you'd expect to find in a regular cup of coffee.

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I'm sure like many of you,

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I didn't realise that when something says decaf, or decaffeinated,

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that actually there still can be some caffeine in the product.

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Even the word decaffeinated, to me,

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makes it sounds like everything has been removed.

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So, we've come to this cafe in Reading to see

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if customers and staff here know which drinks contain caffeine.

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In front of them is a range of products that either claim to be

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decaffeinated or that you might assume are totally caffeine free.

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But is that right?

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Let's see if they can spot which ones do and don't contain

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that caffeine stimulant.

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Decaf.

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Hmm, this might be a trick one.

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-I love hot chocolate.

-I like hot chocolate, too.

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Chocolate's not going to have caffeine in it, surely.

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OK, right.

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Caff free...

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-Caff free.

-So I suppose it says that, so I shall put it there.

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Now they've made their choices, it's time to reveal the truth.

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I'm going to have to put that one over there.

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-Really?

-I'm going to have to put that one over there.

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I'm going to have to put this one over there, the chocolate.

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I'm going to have to put this over there and I'm going

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to have to put the tea bags over there.

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-Really?

-They have all got caffeine.

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That's so bad!

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-But it says on the front...

-I know.

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..decaf? Have I missed something very obvious here?

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No, so you think that's misleading when you see that on the front?

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Incredibly misleading.

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Our simple test has confirmed that to many of us, decaf means no caff.

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But while the various processes manufacturers use to decaffeinate

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coffee remove most of the caffeine, there'll always be a bit left.

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Admittedly, only small amounts - but it's there all the same.

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So what are the rules on how a product should make that clear?

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Well, any that's been through the decaffeination process,

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leaving less than 0.3% caffeine, is classed by law and labelled as decaffeinated.

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But manufacturers often only mention that residual caffeine content

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in the small print which many of us miss, like on this coffee

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that actually says it's "caff free" which isn't quite true.

0:26:080:26:13

No wonder marketing expert David Duke thinks the industry

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could be making things much clearer.

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Manufacturers and marketing brand leaders want to actually create the

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impression that this is something special,

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but creating that impression might mislead

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and so something like "caff-free"

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is an alternative way of trying to describe a decaffeinated product,

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but of course, I would regard something that says caff-free as being

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perhaps significantly more likely to be absolutely 0% and therefore if it

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does contain caffeine, if it says caff-free, yes,

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I would regard that as misleading.

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That caff-free product came from the makers Kenco JDE.

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It told us that, while the product complied with the rules by making

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clear in a number of places that it was decaffeinated,

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it now has dropped the name "caff free"

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as part of a rebrand on all of its products.

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As for hot chocolate, there's no need to declare caffeine unless it's been added as an ingredient.

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And, as manufacturer Cadbury points out,

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the caffeine in its product:

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But Kath remains frustrated that decaffeinated products aren't

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what she'd imagined them to be.

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What I'd like to see is the packaging marked clearer.

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Decaf just along the label isn't enough, in my opinion.

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It should be marked, "less caffeine."

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Well, that's almost it from us for today.

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No doubt you'll have learned quite a few things you didn't know

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from the stories we've investigated today - we certainly did.

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And I have to say, I'm still reeling from that Angela Rippon drug test -

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which still sounds like the most improbable tabloid headline you'll ever read!

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But if you've got a food question or, indeed, any consumer issue

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that you'd like us to get to the bottom of,

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do please get in touch, cos we love to hear from you.

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And it could be your story we investigate on a future programme.

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Well, that's where we leave it for now, but we will see you again soon,

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-and, from the three of us, bye-bye.

-Goodbye.

-Goodbye.

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