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Across Britain, in hundreds of towns, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
cities and neighbourhoods, people are struggling with everyday | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
worries that have got on top of them. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
But there ARE places to turn, even if | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
it seems that no-one else will help. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
This centre is one of them, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
made unique by the woman that runs it. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
A nun for 50 years... | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
SHE TOOTS HORN | 0:00:25 | 0:00:26 | |
Bye-bye! | 0:00:26 | 0:00:27 | |
..she's made it her mission to get this community | 0:00:27 | 0:00:30 | |
back on its feet, and make a real difference to the lives | 0:00:30 | 0:00:32 | |
of as many people as she can... | 0:00:32 | 0:00:35 | |
in her own particular way. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
They don't call me the Formidable Sister Rita for nothing. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
Today, Sister Rita is summoned to Westminster after taking her | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
views right to the top. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:52 | |
There is dire, dire poverty in Collyhurst. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Our task today is to try and get this across to the minister. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:02 | |
But when she gets an unexpectedly positive result, the nun | 0:01:03 | 0:01:06 | |
finds herself at the centre of a media storm. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
I have said nothing | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
as a statement to anybody, | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
I repeat that, | 0:01:15 | 0:01:16 | |
I have said NOTHING | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
to the press | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
or anybody else. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:22 | |
Collyhurst, Manchester - and the Lalley drop-in centre | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
and food bank are once again open for business. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
Right, I need to tell you something. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
New visitors are not allowed to take food | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
until we see their documents. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
Calling the shots, in her inimitable style, is team leader Sister Rita. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:46 | |
Can you shut up, please. If you're all nattering like the kids | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
in the nursery, we're not going to get anywhere, are we? | 0:01:49 | 0:01:53 | |
If I find chewing gum on the carpet, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
I'll be sorry for the one who put it there. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
He's naughty, him. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
This is very serious, stop laughing. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
A nun for 50 years, | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
for the last seven years, she's been overseeing an invaluable | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
neighbourhood resource where people can come for advice and support. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
If you're having problems with the Job Centre - and believe me, | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
I have a lot - you come in to us and we'll do the best we can. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:23 | |
But there's a reason she's known to all as the Formidable Sister Rita. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:28 | |
Why are you looking at me like that? | 0:02:28 | 0:02:30 | |
Do you want to be thrown out on your ear? | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
If you smoke out there, | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
well, you'll be dead if I catch you. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
You don't want to be dead, do you? | 0:02:37 | 0:02:39 | |
Sister Rita's determined to make practical information | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
and help accessible to those who most need it. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
But the problems she hears at the Lalley aren't unique to Collyhurst. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:49 | |
They're echoed in countless communities across the country. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
And Sister Rita has strong views about what | 0:02:53 | 0:02:55 | |
she thinks needs to be done. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:58 | |
Are you listening? | 0:02:58 | 0:03:00 | |
Rather than keep her opinions to herself, she's taking them straight | 0:03:00 | 0:03:04 | |
to the top, and has written a letter | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
to Prime Minister David Cameron. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:09 | |
When I decided to write, I'd had a week of people | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
coming in desperation. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
And I remember thinking, "Is there anything | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
"I could do just to make it a tiny bit better?" | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
So I wrote to the Prime Minister | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
to say, "This is how it is for people who are desperate". | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
While she waits to see if she'll get a reply, Sister Rita | 0:03:32 | 0:03:36 | |
and her team are doing what they do best - making things happen. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
Don't hit any car, please. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
Don't even joke about it! | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
Today, along with two of her volunteers, she's off to pick up | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
furniture chosen from her own convent to be delivered to | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
a 12-year-old boy who's moved to the area to be with his dad. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
Well, the family who are waiting had trauma, actually, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:01 | |
and they came into the Lalley about maybe two or three months ago. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
They moved into a house and the child wants to | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
hang his clothes up, you know. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
I mean, it's a basic need, isn't it? | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
A few days ago, Lalley Centre volunteers dropped the two | 0:04:14 | 0:04:18 | |
items off for storage at a national charity - | 0:04:18 | 0:04:21 | |
which distributes furniture to people who most need it. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
-It was here, innit? -What's that there, behind it? | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
But now they're struggling to find what they left. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
And one of the staff has some bad news... | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
He thinks they no longer have it. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
Well, it might have gone out if you dropped it off on Friday. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
I think what we brought on Friday has been given out to somebody else. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:43 | |
The charity gives out furniture daily to those in need. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
And it looks like the two items from the convent have already been | 0:04:46 | 0:04:50 | |
given to someone else. All this way for what? | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
Tell me, for what? | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
Sister Rita is pleased the furniture has gone to a good home, | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
but she is left with a problem, because she promised the boy | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
and his father they'd have a wardrobe | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
and chest of drawers later today. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:07 | |
I get worked up when families are waiting for something, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
they've been waiting for ages and suddenly they can't have it, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
you know, because it's gone. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
I'm not going to keep this family waiting. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
I happily got a donation today | 0:05:16 | 0:05:20 | |
that I think would be best spent on getting that. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
That's what I'm going to do. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:24 | |
Back at the Lalley Centre, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:28 | |
Sister Rita hatches a plan with team member Kath - who's | 0:05:28 | 0:05:32 | |
seen for herself how much the family is depending on their help. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
-I'm far more upset than I look. -I know. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
I'm just aware of this 12-year-old with his bin liner of clothes. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:44 | |
-This is what I'm going to do right now. -Mm. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
I will ring two charities, or three... | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
..tell them we will buy the wardrobe | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
and we will buy the chest of drawers. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
Have you, by any possibility, got a wardrobe? | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
Could you give us a price, please? | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
Right. So, for £50, we'd get both. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:07 | |
With a deal done, Sister Rita despatches her volunteers to | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
pick up the vital wardrobe and drawers. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
Thanks a lot, mate. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
Thank you. See you again. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:19 | |
And as if that hiccup along the way had never happened, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
the Sister is able to deliver the boy's wardrobe | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
straight to his door - just as she'd promised. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
Yes! | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
Not every problem Sister Rita | 0:06:36 | 0:06:38 | |
and her team encounters can be resolved so quickly. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
Many of the people they strive to help have mental health issues, | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
and Sister Rita worries that these people are particularly | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
vulnerable when it comes to making the right choices | 0:06:49 | 0:06:52 | |
or dealing effectively with their finances. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
A lot of people come into the Lalley Centre and they're depressed. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
And then they tell me that they were told that they're not depressed | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
and they can get a job - I am furious. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
We have expressed all those concerns | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
that we have about people who clearly cannot work. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:13 | |
So, what do we do about that? | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
We help them to get their lives back on track. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
Someone with depression finding things especially difficult | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
is Louise. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:24 | |
Her illness has exacerbated her money troubles - | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
and as they've spiralled out of control, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:29 | |
she's ended up in debt to payday loan companies. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
Hiya, Louise. I'm Lorraine, I'm a social worker. | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
After missing the medical assessments needed for her | 0:07:35 | 0:07:38 | |
benefits to continue, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
Louise's payments were cut by the Department of Work and Pensions. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
Such benefit reductions - known as sanctions - are increasingly common. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:48 | |
It's been claimed that as many as one in five welfare claimants | 0:07:48 | 0:07:52 | |
may have had one, after falling foul of the toughened-up rules. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
But for Louise, the pressure of having less money | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
is beginning to tell. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
I've been sanctioned since January of this year | 0:08:01 | 0:08:04 | |
and I've not had a penny since. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
My benefit was sanctioned until | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
I attended a medical assessment. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
When I went for the medical assessment, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
the report went back to the DWP | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
saying that I...could go to work, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
but I suffer with mental health issues. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
When I went for the medical assessment, I clearly explained | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
how a general day is for me... | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
-OK. -..and all the stress that I... I'm sorry. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
It's OK. Don't worry. Here you go. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
What they're saying is she should be claiming Job Seekers Allowance, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
but she doesn't strike me as a person who's ready to go | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
out into the workplace, so she needs help. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:55 | |
The Government says sanctions are an important part of the benefits | 0:08:55 | 0:08:57 | |
system, tackling those who don't follow the rules, | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
and reducing the tens of billions spent on benefits every year. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:05 | |
But charities have expressed concern that for those with mental | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
health issues, they may just create more stress. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:12 | |
I'm just... I'm just not coping... | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
very well, do you know what I mean? | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
I'm not sleeping, I'm hardly eating cos of everything. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
Even though I'm taking my tablets every day, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
erm, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
it's just getting to the point | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
where I feel like I'm going to have a massive breakdown. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:34 | |
How would you feel about if I contacted the doctor | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
and got you an appointment? | 0:09:38 | 0:09:40 | |
-Yeah, well, I should have gone yesterday to the doctors... -Right. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
..but I just couldn't get out. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
Lorraine calls Louise's GP | 0:09:47 | 0:09:49 | |
and makes an appointment for later in the week. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
Do you want me to come with you? | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
-Yeah, you could do, yeah. -Yeah? | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
When I go for my review, I just, like, I say I'm doing fine. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
-Everything's OK. -When they're not... | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
And you're not fine, are you? | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
No, I'm far from it. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
Based on what she's told me today, I couldn't imagine her | 0:10:09 | 0:10:12 | |
in a workplace tomorrow, | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
because she's got a lot of issues going on. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
How many children have you got? | 0:10:17 | 0:10:19 | |
I've just got one currently living with me. It's my youngest. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:23 | |
She's the reason I get up in the morning. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
She was, you know, clearly distressed. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:30 | |
She should have come here in January when she got sanctioned, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
so she's managed all this time | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
with nothing, you know, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:37 | |
struggling to survive and to feed her child. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
People don't understand when you live with depression, it gets hard. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
If you don't want to get up on that day and go out, | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
-you won't. -I know. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
Mental health is such a difficult area, you can't see it | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
and people may appear to look OK, but they're not OK. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
Sister Rita's aim for the Lalley is for it to be a total one-stop shop, | 0:11:02 | 0:11:07 | |
where locals can get help with all the problems they might be facing. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:11 | |
And Louise is exactly the sort of case that prompted her letter | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
to the Prime Minister, as hers | 0:11:15 | 0:11:17 | |
is a classic example of the type of situation | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
the nun wants David Cameron to be thinking about | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
when making big decisions on benefits. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
When I see and hear what they're struggling with with benefits | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
and unemployment, that really makes me fume. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
And you can see it in their eyes, you know. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
The hope is beginning to fade. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
They're very embarrassed and they frequently cry | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
and break down when they're telling you the story. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
And you know the genuineness of what they're saying shines through them. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:52 | |
Sister Rita's both surprised and delighted that her letter to | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
Downing Street has prompted a swift response. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
The Prime Minister has passed on her concerns to Iain Duncan Smith, | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
the government minister | 0:12:03 | 0:12:04 | |
tasked with making the benefits system a success. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:07 | |
And he's invited the nun to London to hear her concerns face-to-face. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:13 | |
I was very, very, very, very surprised | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
when I got the e-mail to say he'd see us. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
My main job in meeting the minister | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
is to inform him of the effects | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
his benefits are having | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
on people who are struggling. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
Astonished she's had such a positive response, Sister Rita can't | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
wait to tell the Lalley Centre regulars what's in store. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
You have to hear about the minister, Iain Duncan Smith. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:42 | |
Kath McCarron and I, we're going to London tomorrow to see | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
the minister and you'd better be thinking of us - all of you, OK? | 0:12:46 | 0:12:50 | |
And we will do our best to fight the fight for Collyhurst. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:54 | |
Though unexpected, the summons to Westminster is a unique chance to | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
bring the problems she sees every day to the attention of the Government. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
And, perhaps, for Sister Rita to make more of a difference | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
than she'd ever dared hope. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
We are going to try and give | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
Mr Duncan Smith a picture | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
really of the misery that is being caused in areas like this. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
I don't know anybody actually here | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
who's delighted to be on benefits. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
The government must and SHOULD be doing more. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
It's the people that are falling through the gap, | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
people who are sick and disabled, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
the elderly. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
That's why we're doing what we're doing now. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
To try and raise some awareness | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
of what people have to put up with | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
in this day and age in this affluent society. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:55 | |
There is no affluence in Collyhurst. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
News of the meeting with Iain Duncan Smith spreads | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
quickly around the Lalley. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
As the man with the ultimate responsibility for the benefits | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
system that affects so many of the people who call in, there's | 0:14:09 | 0:14:13 | |
real excitement that Sister Rita | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
will be able to voice their concerns. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
I am hoping that she will get Iain Duncan Smith to realise | 0:14:17 | 0:14:22 | |
that we ARE struggling - the real people out there are struggling. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
What I would love out of the meeting | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
is the awareness, that extra help | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
and that support. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
All those things are necessary | 0:14:31 | 0:14:32 | |
if we're looking forward to a greater Britain, we have to | 0:14:32 | 0:14:35 | |
deal with these issues and that's what the Lalley Centre does. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:38 | |
We haven't got a voice any more... | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
..so for Sister Rita to be able to do that is good. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
She'll tell him straight! | 0:14:47 | 0:14:49 | |
And the opportunity to tell it straight to Iain Duncan Smith | 0:14:53 | 0:14:57 | |
is one that Sister Rita appears to be relishing. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
I don't know what he knows about religious Sisters, but people | 0:15:01 | 0:15:04 | |
have an idea that religious Sisters are very quiet and docile... | 0:15:04 | 0:15:09 | |
He's going to be in for a shock, then! | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
It's not like that at all. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:14 | |
One thing Sister Rita will be certain to mention at the meeting is | 0:15:22 | 0:15:25 | |
the food bank that's become one of the cornerstones of the Lalley. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
Collyhurst is an area with high unemployment - | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
and many residents have come to rely on it to get by. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
Don't push! | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
But for the food bank to keep running, Sister Rita has had to | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
develop a network of suppliers who are willing to | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
give their surplus stock for free. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
Are they all right here? Yeah? | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
Big names in the food world she's persuaded to donate include | 0:15:50 | 0:15:54 | |
Tesco, Greggs and Costco. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
You can take two. Take two. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
Yeah, that's great. Thanks a lot. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:02 | |
But keeping those suppliers on side is crucial. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
So today, Sister Rita's on charm offensive - visiting two of her | 0:16:08 | 0:16:13 | |
most valuable suppliers to let them know how vital their donations are - | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
and to encourage them to keep giving as much as they can. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
You're for ever looking and ringing and asking | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
and searching to get food that people need. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
If people didn't give, we wouldn't be able to do what we're doing. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
We are going to... | 0:16:32 | 0:16:34 | |
Riley's Sausages. | 0:16:34 | 0:16:37 | |
Riley's is a local meat wholesaler that specialises in making sausages. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
-That all right? -Perfect. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
Owner Carol is a contact the Sister has developed a relationship with | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
in her own distinctive way. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
I knew she was doing some work in Manchester with very poor people. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:56 | |
I just asked her if she wanted anything | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
and she's never been off my back ever since! | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
We have a little bit of, um... | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
a creative arrangement between us, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
where sometimes, I do the shouting, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
you know, and she does the listening. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
-The burgers... -Yes! -I'm going to keep it quiet from you! | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
Wait till we do kebabs, I'm not telling you! | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
Oh, well - I'll know, won't I? Cos you've just told me. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:21 | |
She's a character, but she can get things out of people more than, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
I should think, anybody else. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
You don't say "no" to Sister Rita. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
And while she knows resistance is futile where Sister Rita's | 0:17:31 | 0:17:35 | |
concerned, Carol's more than happy to help. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
She's even been known to cook up extra supplies | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
just to keep the nun happy. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
If we really didn't have anything left, we would make it for her. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:47 | |
In fact, I have made it for them before. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
She's been screaming at me, "Have we got any more left?" | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
and I said, "Go and make her some, to keep her quiet!" | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
I think that if you've got a business, | 0:17:56 | 0:17:58 | |
especially a food business, you should help the less fortunate. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:03 | |
There are many, many people | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
all over England that need people like the Lalley Centre. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
But she does a lot of good work and I dare say at her age, | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
she shouldn't be running around so much. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:15 | |
Next stop, another vital supplier down the road - a growing | 0:18:17 | 0:18:21 | |
regional bakery that now has over 60 stores. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
We're going to Greenhalgh's bakery. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
The Sister is here to break bread with the company's top brass, | 0:18:27 | 0:18:31 | |
to make sure that main man David Smart | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
keeps those food bank donations coming. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
First of all, I want to say thank you | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
so much for the bumper wagon you sent to us. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
It's a pleasure. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
I'm always saying this to you, you know, but the quality is very good. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
You must know that, do you eat your products? | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
Look at the size of me! | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
David vividly remembers the day four years ago | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
when he and Sister Rita first met. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
Oh, my lord. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:03 | |
She came in just bursting through the door | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
and I thought, "She's a nutter"! | 0:19:06 | 0:19:08 | |
An Irish catholic nun on a mission! | 0:19:08 | 0:19:10 | |
-This is Italian bread, it's called ciabatta. -Oh, yeah - I know that. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
She's quite forthright, but then, you cut away at all that | 0:19:13 | 0:19:19 | |
and you actually see the heart of gold that she's got and then, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
once you see that heart of gold, you'll do anything for her. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:26 | |
Good for you! | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
I know that you've always continued to help us in the past | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
and I'm hoping you're going to do it in the future. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
We make our money within the community, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:36 | |
so it's only right we give back to the community. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
Yeah, OK. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:40 | |
As long as they need it, we'll always help. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
I mean, at the end of the day, why throw it in a big hole | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
when somebody else can benefit? | 0:19:47 | 0:19:49 | |
I really do trust the Irish nun. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
I mean, she will make sure THAT gets to where it's needed. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
Doing the rounds of the food bank suppliers is an essential | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
part of keeping the service going. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
But things might be easier for Sister Rita | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
if she could hand over some of that to her right hand man, Max. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
You can choose one piece of meat. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
-One piece? -One. One. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:13 | |
Max. | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
Well, I don't think you'd ever get another Max. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Sister Rita's trusted deputy is originally from Peru, but he | 0:20:20 | 0:20:24 | |
came here to the UK to be with his British wife Maria five years ago. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:29 | |
And he now has responsibility for the day-to-day | 0:20:29 | 0:20:31 | |
running of the food bank. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:33 | |
What's your name? | 0:20:33 | 0:20:34 | |
-Etta. -Etta? -Etta. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
As he began to volunteer, | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
it wasn't very long before both of us | 0:20:40 | 0:20:43 | |
realised we were singing from the same hymn sheet. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:46 | |
Sister Rita relies on Max for everything, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
except for one key thing that could really help. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
Max doesn't yet have a UK driving licence | 0:20:53 | 0:20:56 | |
and that means the Sister is stretched doing work that her | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
assistant could be doing. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
Sometimes we get phone calls from some donors. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
With my driving licence, I could take the van and collect it | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
but right now I cannot do it, so that's a problem. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:12 | |
But, determined to get behind the wheel | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
and help Sister Rita out, Max has been taking driving lessons. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
Max has great empathy with people. He will go the extra ten miles. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:28 | |
So far, though, those extra ten miles have had to be on foot. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
Because, while the lessons have gone well, | 0:21:34 | 0:21:36 | |
Max has had no luck passing his test. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
I've failed five times. Five times, yes. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
Max's problems in joining the fast lane are a far cry from life | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
back in Peru where he was a regular on the roads. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:53 | |
The driving licence from my country's not valid here in UK. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
In my brain, seeing coming cars from the wrong side was a little | 0:21:57 | 0:22:03 | |
difficult in the beginning for me, so it was very confuse for me. | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
Max has now been booked for his latest test | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
and thinks it might be sixth time lucky. | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
-We will celebrate when? Next week! -THEY LAUGH | 0:22:15 | 0:22:18 | |
I think I'm 100% ready for my test on Wednesday. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:25 | |
If Max gets it right and at last gets his driving licence, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
Sister Rita's task of running the food bank might just become | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
that little bit more simple. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
I wish and pray every single hour of the day that he can drive. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:38 | |
If he wants something from B&Q, I have to drive him to B&Q. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:43 | |
So of course I want Max to drive! | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
But before Max retakes his test, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:53 | |
another day of reckoning has arrived. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
You have to show him your ticket. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
Along with team member Kath, Sister Rita is on her way to London | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
to meet Secretary of State for Work and Pensions Iain Duncan Smith. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:09 | |
As the minister responsible for the benefits system in the UK, | 0:23:09 | 0:23:12 | |
the Sister can't wait to let him | 0:23:12 | 0:23:14 | |
know what life in Collyhurst is really like. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:18 | |
It's a great opportunity. | 0:23:18 | 0:23:19 | |
I still can't believe he's allowing us to come | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
and see him, actually. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
But we're on the front line | 0:23:23 | 0:23:24 | |
and they have a right to hear what's going on at the front. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:28 | |
They're not going to know about it. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:31 | |
No, except from what they see in the papers and what's perpetuated | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
but it's, you know, life of Riley on benefits, you know, you can | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
have Sky, holidays abroad and a fancy car. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:42 | |
That is not our experience at all. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
No, and I think one of our tasks today is to try | 0:23:44 | 0:23:48 | |
and get this across to the minister. There is dire, | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
dire poverty in Collyhurst and it should not be in this land. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
But, for Sister Rita, this is about much more than simply | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
getting on her soapbox to give the minister a talking-to. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
She wants to return from London with something specific to improve | 0:24:05 | 0:24:09 | |
the lives of those who come to the Lalley Centre for help. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
I'm hoping that by the time we've said our bit, he will be | 0:24:13 | 0:24:16 | |
initiated into making some kind of response like, "What could you | 0:24:16 | 0:24:22 | |
"give to us in Collyhurst that could help us to do this better?" | 0:24:22 | 0:24:26 | |
Now, my feeling is that the minister will be slow to make any | 0:24:26 | 0:24:32 | |
promises today or to give away anything. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
But they don't call me the Formidable Sister Rita for nothing. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
Neither do they call me Atilla the Nun for nothing. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
Sister Rita's bagged a meeting with a man who could make a real | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
difference to the people of Collyhurst. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:52 | |
-Thank you very much. -Thank you. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
But she knows the challenge now is to come away with the right result. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
Back at the Lalley, Lorraine has another meeting with Louise, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:07 | |
who's had just the sort of experience with the benefits system | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
that Sister Rita wants others to avoid. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
You've had all the papers back now, haven't you? | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
-And you've got a date for next week? -Yeah. 19th, yeah. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:21 | |
For almost nine months, Louise has been living | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
on severely reduced benefits. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
They were cut after she missed key medical assessments | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
and officials concluded she was fit to work. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
But she suffers with depression and both she and Lorraine | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
think the decision to part suspend her payments was wrong. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:39 | |
Now, with Lorraine's help, | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
she's set to appeal the ruling at an upcoming tribunal. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:45 | |
If it goes in her favour, she may have her benefits reinstated | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
and also backdated to the time they were originally suspended. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
So they've sent you copies of all the paperwork that they're | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
-going to be reading at the tribunal. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
Louise is currently trying to run her home without more than | 0:26:00 | 0:26:04 | |
£100 a week in employment-support allowance. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
To make up for that, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:08 | |
she's resorted to using money offered to her by loan companies. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
I'm thousands of pounds in debt for borrowing 150 quid. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
I thought I'll be able to pay it back. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:20 | |
But, as you know, when you don't pay anything back, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:24 | |
the interest just goes up and up and up and up. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
Yeah. And how much do you owe now? | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
1,400 quid. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
If the appeal goes in my favour, I'll get the loan shark off my back | 0:26:31 | 0:26:36 | |
and then I'll be all right, then. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
Before the tribunal takes place, though, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
Louise has the doctor's appointment | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
that Lorraine arranged to talk about her illness. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
All this is getting on top of me. It's doing my head in. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:50 | |
Yeah, you need to get it sorted out. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
Lorraine is hopeful that a GP might review Louise's medication. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
And, if she can get a sick note from the surgery, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
it could help at the tribunal. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:05 | |
It went quite well, the appointment. They have changed her medication, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
they've referred her for some counselling as well | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
but then she's come to pick up a sick note from reception and | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
the Job Centre told the doctor not to issue | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
any more sick notes for her, saying she's fit for work. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
The news that the Job Centre has apparently advised | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
the surgery not to issue a sick note hasn't gone down well with Louise, | 0:27:26 | 0:27:30 | |
who admits she does have a temper. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
I think that's stupid, that, me. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
It's the doctor that tells them that I'm not capable of work, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:40 | |
not the other way round. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:41 | |
Lorraine calls the Job Centre to find out exactly what was | 0:27:43 | 0:27:46 | |
sent to Louise's GP. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:47 | |
She's told it was a standard letter regarding sick notes used to | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
support benefits, explaining what happens | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
if those benefits have been suspended. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
But it's not supposed to stop a GP issuing a sick note where | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
one's appropriate. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:03 | |
Armed with the knowledge that a sick note can still be issued, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
they head back into the doctor's, where it's clear | 0:28:08 | 0:28:11 | |
the letter has caused confusion for everyone. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
The benefits system can often be a challenge, | 0:28:15 | 0:28:17 | |
even to someone as well versed in it as Lorraine. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:20 | |
The benefits system is really difficult to navigate | 0:28:20 | 0:28:23 | |
cos it changes all the time. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
I have to phone up and get the information | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
cos I don't have all the answers. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
When we phone up, some of the benefits advisers give us | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
conflicting information | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
and it's quite hard to understand who's right or wrong. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
When Lorraine passes on the new information from the Job Centre, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
it results in the surgery issuing the all-important sick note | 0:28:45 | 0:28:49 | |
and Louise has found her support invaluable. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
I wouldn't have got anything done without you. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
-Yeah, it's never easy to navigate around the benefits system. -Yeah. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:59 | |
But Louise's biggest challenge is still to come. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
Will the tribunal agree that her | 0:29:02 | 0:29:04 | |
benefit sanction should be overturned? | 0:29:04 | 0:29:06 | |
In London, Sister Rita's meeting with Work and Pensions minister, | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
Iain Duncan Smith, is finally over. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
I think he was tense at the beginning | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
and I think he was waiting for us to take out the shotgun, | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
to be honest with you. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:25 | |
-You know, because everybody else is doing it. -Yeah. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
It was better than I ever imagined it could be. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
I didn't imagine that he would be | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
so receptive to what we were telling him. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:42 | |
I am very, very optimistic about this | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
and very happy that somebody who's the lawmaker has listened to | 0:29:46 | 0:29:52 | |
what we're trying to tell them and I think it'll pay dividends. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:56 | |
What's more, during the meeting, Iain Duncan Smith pledged to | 0:29:59 | 0:30:03 | |
trial a new scheme, | 0:30:03 | 0:30:04 | |
which would see Job Centre staff drop into the Lalley each week to | 0:30:04 | 0:30:08 | |
give visitors face-to-face advice on claiming benefits and finding work. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
If successful, it could even be rolled out across the whole country. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:19 | |
We won't let it go. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:20 | |
The new plan is a bolt from the blue for Sister Rita. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
But mixed with her excitement is the fear that, once she's | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
back in Collyhurst, this won't stay top of the minister's agenda. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
I said to him, "If I go out of this room, I hope we're going to | 0:30:33 | 0:30:37 | |
"hear from you again and that this won't be the end of it." | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
And he said, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:42 | |
"No, we are very interested and we want to do as much as we can." | 0:30:42 | 0:30:47 | |
Politicians make a lot of promises | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
but politicians haven't before met Sister Rita Lee, have they? | 0:30:49 | 0:30:53 | |
But it seems her worries are ill-founded. | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
Over the next few days, plans for testing out | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
the Department of Work and Pensions' new initiative are quickly firmed up. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:15 | |
The Lalley Centre will have some manager from | 0:31:15 | 0:31:20 | |
DWP who will come in here | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
and they will be available for anyone who's been sanctioned. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
They will have a direct access to people who make decisions. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:33 | |
It sounds to me like a better plan than us | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
plodding away trying to find somebody who not only knows | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
what we're talking about but can make some kind of a decision. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
The plan is that, for a trial period, Job Centre Plus staff | 0:31:47 | 0:31:51 | |
will be on hand at the Lalley Centre to discuss work or benefit issues, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:55 | |
with the authority to review benefit sanctions on the spot. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
It could save visitors time and money on telephone calls | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
and, it's hoped, streamline the whole process. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:05 | |
Good morning, everybody. Can I just have your attention, please? | 0:32:05 | 0:32:09 | |
It's a real coup for the Sister | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
and she wastes no time in sharing the good news with her regulars. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:15 | |
-Last week, we told you we were going to London, did we? -Yeah. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
Well, here's the proof. | 0:32:19 | 0:32:21 | |
APPLAUSE | 0:32:21 | 0:32:24 | |
Us standing with the Secretary of State in his office. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:29 | |
Kath McCarron and myself told him about the poverty, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:34 | |
about the despair of some of the people coming in here. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
He listened very carefully about how he can make it | 0:32:38 | 0:32:43 | |
better for people on benefits. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
Job Centre Plus, they're coming in here. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:50 | |
I've got faith enough to believe that they're trying to make | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
a difference. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:54 | |
They could fix it right there. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
If somebody asked me, "How successful was the trip to London?" | 0:32:57 | 0:33:02 | |
I would say 100% successful. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
Thank you. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:08 | |
Someone else looking for 100% success is Sister Rita's deputy, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
Max, as the day of his latest driving test has arrived. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
If he can pass, he should be able to lighten | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
the load on Sister Rita by taking on even more food bank responsibilities. | 0:33:22 | 0:33:27 | |
I feel very confident. I practise a lot, so I'm ready. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:33 | |
This will be my sixth time, so | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
I have plenty experience in driving tests here in the UK. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
Max is relaxed, with no last-minute nerves. | 0:33:43 | 0:33:47 | |
But will all that practice be enough to get him | 0:33:47 | 0:33:49 | |
the result he needs this time around? | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
Unfortunately, no. Max has failed his driving test yet again. | 0:33:56 | 0:34:01 | |
Definitely not the result he was looking for. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:04 | |
Well, this is the driving test report. I made 11 faults. | 0:34:04 | 0:34:09 | |
I feel very disappointed with myself because I need my driving licence. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:15 | |
Makes me feel not very happy! | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
Now Max has the extra ordeal of having to tell Sister Rita | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
that he's still stuck in neutral when it comes to driving. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
And he's hoping he's caught her on a good day to deliver bad news. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
We have bits of shouting times, you know. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
You see, I want everything yesterday... | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
Good morning, everybody. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
..and Max is more measured. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:42 | |
And, of course, sometimes he's right and sometimes I'm right. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:46 | |
Hello, Sister. Good morning. How are you? | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
-How did you go on? -I failed, again. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
It's all right because you'll pass the next time, OK? | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
Hard going for you, love, isn't it? Eh? | 0:35:00 | 0:35:03 | |
Max is relieved Sister Rita has taken the news in her stride. | 0:35:03 | 0:35:06 | |
But then, he is a particularly valued member of the team. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
We do work very, very well together | 0:35:12 | 0:35:16 | |
and I'm not quite sure how the Lalley would function without him. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:21 | |
For now, Max will have to hope that it's lucky number seven | 0:35:21 | 0:35:24 | |
in his bid to pass his driving test. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
But, until then, Sister Rita will still be the one on the road | 0:35:28 | 0:35:32 | |
when it comes to the Lalley's official food bank business. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
I'm thinking, "Oh, God, will you hurry up?" | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
You're not going to say that to somebody who's just | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
failed their test but you can say it to yourself, that's allowed. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
As the Government's pilot scheme gets underway, | 0:35:47 | 0:35:50 | |
with Job Centre advisers tackling work and benefit queries right away, | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
Sister Rita's thrilled at how it | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
builds on the centre's regular business | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
This is in your interest, you know. It isn't in mine. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
Until an unexpected announcement in London sees her | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
thrust into the limelight in a way she hadn't been prepared for. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:11 | |
Something that I'm also just trialling at the moment, | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
which the committee will not be aware of, I haven't said anything about it before, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:18 | |
I was visited by a particular food bank | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
before the summer break to talk about some of the issues | 0:36:22 | 0:36:24 | |
about delivering food and some of the problems with individuals | 0:36:24 | 0:36:29 | |
that turn up and say they have a problem with their payments. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
Only a few weeks into the ongoing trial, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
Iain Duncan Smith had, without warning, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:37 | |
told the Work and Pensions Select Committee, and the world, | 0:36:37 | 0:36:41 | |
that it was happening. | 0:36:41 | 0:36:43 | |
If this works and if the other foodbanks are willing to | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
encompass this and we think it works, we think we'd like | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
to roll this out across the whole of the UK. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
Sister Rita, who understood it was all meant to be kept under wraps, | 0:36:51 | 0:36:55 | |
suddenly found herself bombarded with calls | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
as the story and the Lalley became headline news. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:02 | |
And when the minister's office does finally call... | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
-PHONE RINGS -Hello. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
..she's less than impressed. | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
Well, first of all, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
we've kept our side of the bargain here, | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
we didn't put this out to anybody. | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
My charity Caritas is bombarded from everybody and anybody about this. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:20 | |
Though rattled at suddenly being the centre of attention, | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
it's not long before Sister Rita is back in control. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
But why did you put it out, then? | 0:37:28 | 0:37:30 | |
I mean, all right, you can say to me | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
it's up to the minister what he does, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
but because we were acting the way we were, it would have been just | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
courtesy to let me know. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
And, the thing is, I think that it needs time and it needs us | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
to work on it. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
It's a very new approach, people are mistrustful. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
We have to work through that. Bye-bye, bye-bye. Yup. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:54 | |
Well, that's him told. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:56 | |
Sister Rita is also upset at how some | 0:37:59 | 0:38:02 | |
reports are referring to the people who use the food bank | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
and she wants to put that right. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
I need to speak to you very urgently about this and you need to listen. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:13 | |
The media are flocking around right now looking for information | 0:38:14 | 0:38:20 | |
about the DWP coming here on a Thursday afternoon. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:25 | |
I have said nothing as a statement to anybody. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:31 | |
I'll repeat that, I have said nothing. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:35 | |
What they've put in here is...beyond belief. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:40 | |
"The Department of Work and Pensions staff are basing | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
"themselves at the Lalley Community Centre food bank in Collyhurst, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:48 | |
"which has been overwhelmed with demand from penniless families." | 0:38:48 | 0:38:53 | |
Do you think I'd say that about you? I would not. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
Sister Rita, I've got absolute faith in you, honestly. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
Sister Rita's been taken aback at how her desire to | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
help on a bigger scale has suddenly become altogether more political. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:13 | |
And while she's still behind the pilot scheme, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
she's surprised at how quickly it's being labelled a success. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
Right now, I don't think I'm in any position to say | 0:39:19 | 0:39:22 | |
that it's either a success or a failure. | 0:39:22 | 0:39:25 | |
There's some correctness, I think, in what they're saying | 0:39:25 | 0:39:30 | |
but then there's always a slant that comes into it that makes it | 0:39:30 | 0:39:35 | |
either antithe-government, and I'm not saying I'm pro-the-government. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:40 | |
I'm pro those people out there and I'm pro-the-government | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
if they're going to do anything at all to help them. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
Those of us that are in the business of helping people who are struggling | 0:39:46 | 0:39:51 | |
for whatever reason, then we fight for them, we're on their side, | 0:39:51 | 0:39:56 | |
we want them to have a better life. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
And whatever makes it that tiny bit better, we're happy about. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:02 | |
Away from the national stage, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
a story closer to home is reaching its conclusion. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
It's the day of Louise's tribunal, to rule | 0:40:15 | 0:40:17 | |
whether she's entitled to benefits that are paid to those who have | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
difficulty working because of long-term illness. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
If I don't win today, I dread to think where I'll be next week. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:30 | |
I'm very nervous. Very nervous, yeah. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
Louise struggles with depression | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
and, in the past, was paid benefits supporting her illness. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:40 | |
But after she missed medical assessments earlier in the year, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:43 | |
her Job Centre decided she was fit for work | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
and suspended her main weekly benefit. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
I don't know what the outcome of today is going to be. | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
This is my life, do you know what I mean? | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
Sister Rita has sent Lalley Centre social worker Lorraine | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
to support Louise through the hearing. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
Just be really clear about what you're saying. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
But I'll be there by your side. Are you good to go? | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
-Right, yeah. I'm good to go. -Are we going to do this? | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
-Yeah, let's do this. -Let's do it. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:17 | |
If the appeal finds in her favour, Louise may have her benefits | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
reinstated and also backdated to the time they were originally suspended. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:26 | |
-You were amazing. -Thank you. You were too. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
They're going to send the result of the tribunal | 0:41:33 | 0:41:38 | |
out in the post tonight. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
Louise was amazing. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
I know you got upset a few times, which is fine. It's stressful. | 0:41:43 | 0:41:47 | |
I was able to get my answers across and my opinion | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
and that's what I wanted, really. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
I wouldn't have got through that without you and your support. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
Fingers crossed, I'm hoping that it's going to go in my favour. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:02 | |
Two days later, Louise learned her appeal against her benefits | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
sanction had been successful. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:11 | |
After the support she's received from the Lalley Centre, | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
she's now once again receiving payments. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
And the tribunal's ruling is good for the next two years. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
Cases like Louise's have become familiar to the team at the Lalley. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:29 | |
And that's one reason why Sister Rita is so pleased with | 0:42:29 | 0:42:32 | |
the new pilot scheme that came out of her meeting with Iain Duncan Smith. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:36 | |
If it works, it will mean, across the country, | 0:42:36 | 0:42:39 | |
decisions on contested benefits sanctions can be made much faster. | 0:42:39 | 0:42:43 | |
Which, for people like Louise, will make a big difference. | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
And now the dust has settled, the nun is starting to share | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
the minister's optimism on how the trial will turn out. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:55 | |
I think the fact that the Government is trialling | 0:42:55 | 0:42:59 | |
a project at the Lalley right now, we're very happy with that. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:03 | |
We're seeing, now, things happening | 0:43:03 | 0:43:07 | |
and I think the word is getting around. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
And I think it's wonderful | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
if the Lalley Centre has influenced any policies that come out | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
that will be more beneficial to the people who are struggling. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:21 | |
Whilst making a difference on a national scale is important, | 0:43:21 | 0:43:25 | |
Sister Rita doesn't want anybody on her own doorstep | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
to slip through the net. | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
So her focus now is to find a way to bring together every | 0:43:30 | 0:43:33 | |
member of the local community who may need her help. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
Next time... | 0:43:38 | 0:43:40 | |
This is Collyhurst. | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
..Sister Rita's attempts to tackle loneliness in the area | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
receive a blow when her new friendship club falls flat. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
They don't think they need to come out of their homes to meet | 0:43:48 | 0:43:52 | |
with other people and that's it, we have to break that down. | 0:43:52 | 0:43:56 | |
And the Sister heads back to where her own journey began, | 0:43:56 | 0:44:00 | |
as the city of Cork comes together to celebrate her 50 years as a nun. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:05 | |
Women are extraordinary beings, truly they are. | 0:44:05 | 0:44:09 | |
I'm not saying I don't love men. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:11 | |
LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE | 0:44:11 | 0:44:14 |