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The law says everyone has the right to a safe place to live...

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-We want to get your problem sorted out.

-..but for thousands of people

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across Britain, the reality can be more hovel than home.

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-That gully pan was up to the top with

-BLEEP.

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This is not right, this.

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In the battle between tenants

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and landlords, it's local housing officers who are on the front line.

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This is a really dangerous place to be living.

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I'm Matt Allwright and I've been training hard,

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ready to join the ranks of the Housing Enforcers.

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-The fire's in here, you're in there...

-Yes.

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You can't get out.

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They are tackling problem properties...

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In the walls, I hear scratching.

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It's a bit of a death trap.

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..dealing with the consequences of nightmare neighbours...

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-Urine running down the wall.

-..and everything in between.

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The moment's passed and nothing gets done.

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-I'm so pleased for you.

-I feel like I've won the lottery.

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You're looking like a bad landlord.

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'Today, I'm straight in at the deep end with an upset landlord.'

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-Stop filming and leave my house.

-OK, we'll leave.

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Why is it you didn't want us in there to see it?

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Housing officer Glynn has got a mess to sort out.

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There's dog faeces, there's food waste.

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It's a rat B&B. Everything's en-suite.

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And one tenant needs to clean up his act.

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It's in a deplorable condition. The bathroom's filthy,

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the kitchen's filthy.

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After three years, I thought - "Forget it, what's the point?"

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-It would help me if you clean it up.

-BLEEP.

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It's said that an Englishman's home is his castle,

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but if that castle is rented, then it is the job of housing officers

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to make sure that it's a decent place to live.

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They keep an eye on private landlords, to make sure

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the properties are up to scratch AND provide somebody with a decent home.

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In Lincolnshire, that's the job

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of housing officer Chris Gallimore.

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We've come to Sleaford, to visit a property that Chris

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has serious concerns about.

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But to fix the problems, first, we've got to work out

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if we're dealing with a tenant or a lodger, as I'm about to find out.

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We're here because there's been a complaint, is that right?

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That's right, yeah. There's a young lady who's in a...

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..what seems to be

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a self-contained flat and she's basically saying

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there's no ventilation in there. Also, there's no proper sink,

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there's issues with the fire escape, and things like that.

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I have actually done an informal visit and checked a few things,

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but there's more I'd like to check.

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When we're going in there, we're checking not just for

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the stuff that we can see,

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but it's also the basis under which she's there. Is that right?

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That's correct, yeah. I think the owner's saying that it's part

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of his property and it's a lodger within his own property.

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And these distinctions are absolutely crucial

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when you're working out the rights of the occupant?

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Yep. As soon as you start charging rent and it's a person

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not related to yourself, then there's more issues.

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The big question here is - is she a tenant or is she a lodger?

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-And that's very important. Shall we go and have a look?

-It is. Yep, OK.

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We're here to meet Megan Davy,

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who is absolutely sick of her living conditions.

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And I haven't got a kitchen, I can't cook proper meals,

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I'm having to live on ready meals.

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For the past eight months,

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home for Megan has been on the first floor of this property.

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Things that are dangerous are the stairs. The doors aren't secure.

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Anyone can go straight through them.

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It is upsetting.

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I'm diabetic, as well, and that's where my health is getting worse.

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-Oh.

-Interesting.

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My family don't want me to be here.

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They don't feel that it's safe for a young girl to be here.

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-Hi, you all right?

-Yes, thank you.

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-Hello there, how you doing?

-I'm all right, thank you.

-Good, good.

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-So this is, this is your flat?

-It is, yeah.

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And you've got, sort of, well, it's a kitchenette, sort of, thing.

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So, you've got a fridge and a freezer, but there's no...

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You've got no running water there at all.

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Then, you've got a bathroom area.

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Is that where you...? That's where your running water is coming from?

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You've got...one window. That's the only window there?

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Yeah, and there's just no air coming through.

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-That's why I've opened the door.

-Those windows don't open there?

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They don't open, no.

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Why did you call in to Chris and the guys at the council?

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I've not been very well recently and I feel something needs

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to be done with the properties that my landlord is renting.

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-Can I ask you how much you're paying for this?

-£70 a week.

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Right.

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'Now, it's very early days on the job for me,

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'but this is a complex case.

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'Chris thinks Megan is a tenant.

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'If she is, the owner of this property is breaking the law,

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'because she should have some kind of ventilation in her bedroom

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'and a fire alarm to keep her safe.

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'A conversation with the man himself might help us

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'sort out Megan's problems.

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KNOCKS DOOR

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Hello?

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-Hi, there.

-Hello.

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-Hello, there.

-And, er, what's happening here?

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Can you stop filming and leave my house, please?

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-OK.

-OK, we've been asked to leave, we'll leave.

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I've still got to do my inspection today.

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-You are welcome to do your inspection.

-OK.

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Why didn't you want us in there to see it? I'm just interested.

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Cos I think it's...

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rather nice to actually be asked, before you wander in

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to someone's property. I thought that's only polite.

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OK, well, I see that as Megan's home.

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'And at the heart of this case

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'is whether Megan is, legally, a tenant or a lodger.

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'A lodger lives in the owner's home

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'and has shared use of the rest of the property.

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'But if you're a tenant, it's your home

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'and you can control who comes and goes.

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'You need to check your paperwork

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'and see that it matches your circumstances.

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'You should have signed either a lodger agreement

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or 'an Assured Shorthold Tenancy, or AST.

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'Megan's home makes me think she should be a tenant.

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'I want to find out more from John.'

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Has she got an Assured Shorthold Tenancy?

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-No, she's a lodger.

-She's a lodger?

-This is my house. This is my house.

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She's got her own front door. She's got her own facilities within the property?

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She's put in her own. I haven't supplied them.

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-But she's got a fridge there?

-She's put them in, yes.

-She's put those fridges in there

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-and there are two spaces there for fridges.

-That was a work space.

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-She's got toilet, she's got an en-suite.

-She's got an en-suite.

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-But that does feel like it should be a tenancy.

-Well, it's not.

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A tenancy needs a kitchen.

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'Yes, but if he's arguing that Megan IS a lodger, then surely

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'she should be able to cook a decent meal for herself, whenever she pleases?'

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-She's free to use your kitchen, as a shared kitchen?

-If she wants to, yes.

-Right.

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And she's got access through the property to get to that?

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No, she hasn't got access. No, she comes and sees us.

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Right, so she's got to go down the stairs,

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out the door and back around to your front door, to use the kitchen.

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-Correct.

-Not very convenient, is it?

-Nor is living in a car.

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She was living in a car, because the council couldn't house her.

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I offered her something better than a car, which she was happy to have.

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If we're working on the basis that all housing in the UK

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is acceptable if it's better than living in a car,

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that's not really a workable proposition, is it?

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-As you can see, work is in progress.

-But the point is, when you're taking money from people,

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you say as a lodger, and I would suggest it looks more

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like a tenancy to me, then, at that point, you have a responsibility...

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Well, you're already telling me you're not aware of the rules

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and regulations because you didn't even know

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I could have a room without a window.

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There's no fire alarms in that building. And there's no means of escape.

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-You don't need a fire alarm in a domestic property.

-There's no means of escape.

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I do not need... Do I need, by law, a fire alarm in a domestic property?

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Well, we'll assess it under... within The Housing Act.

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-Yeah, but that's true, but it's a domestic house.

-Yeah.

-Domestic.

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-You cannot enforce me to have...

-We've proved she's got no use of your facilities.

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-She has to go out and back in.

-You haven't proved it at all.

-You said it yourself.

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The fact that she has to come out of there to use it,

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-doesn't mean she hasn't got the use of it.

-Let him complete the inspection and then make a judgment.

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I will. I've said I'm happy for him to do his inspection, I've got no problems with that.

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Well, why don't we wait until he's done his inspection and then decides what the case is?

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Well, I'll go in with him and we'll do an inspection in there.

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OK, would you be all right for the cameras to come with you.

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-No, I don't want them in there.

-OK.

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That was intense.

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We came up against a landlord who really knew his stuff

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and it was a test, not just of me, actually, but of Chris, as well,

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of our knowledge of housing law.

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So, just to be clear, if Megan is a lodger, to use the kitchen

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she would have to leave her room, go down the stairs, out into

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the courtyard, knock on the door, and then use the kitchen, if he's in.

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He's saying that's the basis upon which it's a house share,

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NOT a tenancy.

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Actually arguing that with someone that quite clearly knows his way

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around housing law is tricky.

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And made me realise I need to hit the books a little bit more,

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if I am genuinely to call myself a housing officer.

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But this case isn't closed yet. We'll find out later

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if John manages to have the last word.

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Now, in Kent, Thanet Council has another way of dealing with

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problem landlords. It's called Selective Licensing.

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And it's a valuable weapon in the armoury

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of Housing Officer Mark Goldhawk.

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His patch is the old-school seaside town of Margate -

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a landlord's paradise,

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full of buildings converted into multiple flats and bedsits.

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In parts of this town, and many others across Britain,

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landlords are forced to purchase a compulsory licence,

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with strict regulations that they must stick to.

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It's an effective way for the council to keep standards up

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and landlords in line.

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Often, landlords do as much as they need to do to stop us

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taking further action.

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We're going to a Victorian property.

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It's a selectively-licensed property but it's not meeting

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the conditions of licence.

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When he first inspected the building nine months ago,

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Mark found it in a desperate state of repair.

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These are the photos from my first visit. In the common areas,

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there's no lighting, the stairs were in a dangerous condition,

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the balustrading was missing, the carpet was worn, there was

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no fire detection and there was penetrating dampness.

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Mark has been asking for work to begin for nine months

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and now the builders have finally started work.

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Damage to the building had begun to spiral out of control dangerously.

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One of the major problems they've had is a leak to the roof.

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The water is leaking through. It's caused a funnel here,

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it's come out, but it's also spread in to the flats at each level,

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so it's brought the ceilings down.

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It's not usual to find a funnel

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as big as that. No, it's quite like a waterfall coming through there.

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The work in the hall is, at least, a sign of progress,

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but managing the conditions inside the flats is a much bigger battle.

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-Hello, Mr Whitworth, can I come in?

-Yep.

-Thank you.

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Tenant Mark Whitworth's home is in a shocking state of decay -

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he says he's been waiting for work to be done for years.

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That window, I've been waiting for six years.

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The ceiling, I've waited for three years...

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Bathroom I've been waiting for

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two and a half years.

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I got a new hot water tank after about

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a two-year wait.

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CHUCKLES

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I'm beginning to realise that sometimes both parties

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let their responsibilities slide.

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It's clear that Mark's

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attitude to the flat hasn't helped the conditions he's living in.

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After three years I thought,

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"Forget it, what's the point?"

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I just want a decent place to live in.

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I can see that they've started doing work in the common area,

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has anything happened in here?

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-Yeah, I've got a new kitchen ceiling.

-Right.

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-They've put in a for a new bathroom suite.

-Great.

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So, hopefully, I'll have a new toilet, bath and sink soon.

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-Right, and anything about heating?

-Heating. No, not yet.

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Right, I'll have a quick look, then, just to see what they've done.

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There is still some disrepair here.

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It's a challenge to see

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beyond all the mess and, indeed, how anyone could live like this?

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A lot of it is actually down to the tenant.

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He's not cleaning, the bathroom's filthy,

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the kitchen's filthy, but there are maintenance issues there, as well.

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Ah, that's good, new ceiling.

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The most important thing is to get the fire detection sorted out.

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Obviously, we've got four flats here, four lots of cooking facilities.

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Tenant Mark has clearly given up on his home altogether,

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but for housing officers, the most pressing problem is safety.

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Fire can spread very quickly through this type of construction,

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so what we rely on is early detection of fire,

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so that's what we'll be pushing them to do.

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Occasionally, we hear of people dying in fires, particularly in multiple- occupied buildings.

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This is the type of premises where that happens.

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It's a shame that it's taken nine months for the work to start work.

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The builders are tackling the disrepair in the flat,

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but housing officer Mark still has to deal with the sensitive

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question of making sure the tenant does his bit.

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It would help me if you could tidy that and clean it up. A good clean.

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You know what it's like. I get depressed.

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I know, but we want to get your problems sorted out

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and the chap's just said to me on the phone that he's reluctant

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to send the electricians in to a couple of the flats and one of them

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is yours. I'm sure, so if you can get it tidied up it'll be good for you.

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What hits you

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when you go into that property is it's in a deplorable condition.

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I don't want to come back next week and find that an electrician

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or plumber has turned up and refused to do the work because of the state

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of the property, so I just need to give him a gentle push in the right direction,

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to make sure that we do get the work done that we want done.

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Very diplomatic, Mark.

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This job isn't just about landlords and tenants. If a house

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really hasn't been looked after, then it can pose problems not just

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for the owner or the occupants, but for an innocent next-door neighbour.

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To see for myself just how bad things can get,

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I'm with housing officers Grant Fenton-Jones and Rob Goswell.

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Putting this on.

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'We've come to a house in Harwich, Essex. It's clear

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'this won't be an ordinary house call.'

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We want to be able to see you and also we want you to wear a hard hat,

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just in case anything was to fall on you.

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-It's that bad?

-Potentially, yeah.

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This house first came on to Grant and Rob's radar

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after a desperate call from next-door neighbour Teresa Kemp.

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The property next door has been vacant, er, for a while

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but even before it was vacant, windows had been smashed,

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rainwater was obviously getting in and it's caused

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the wall between their property and my property to have damp problems.

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So, the plaster is coming off, there are big patches

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of mildewy areas, if you like.

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Some days, when I come down and I actually

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see it's worsened almost overnight. It is very upsetting.

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'Well, if there is that much damp

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'in TERESA'S house, how bad must this one be?'

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Careful, careful with your steps.

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-Oh, my God...

-I don't know if you can feel the damp on the floor?

-You can see the damp on the floor,

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-Can you feel it under your feet?

-It's like...

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-It's like treading on...

-The walls are actually wet, still.

-You've got your...

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-Oh, my God.

-It's not breakfast.

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-This is unbelievable.

-Yeah.

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'Believe it or not, until recently, this house was

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'occupied by an elderly widow, but the place has fallen into such

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'disrepair that the council had no choice but to rehouse her.'

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This is the only form of heat in the whole property.

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There was one socket that was working.

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-So, this is someone's home that they own?

-Yes.

-At some point,

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you've got the power, then to say to someone,

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"You can't live here any more, even though it's your own home."

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-Yeah.

-I mean, that is a very difficult job to pull off, isn't it?

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-That person doesn't want to leave their own home. Clearly.

-Exactly.

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I mean, in this instance, we've been lucky.

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We've been able to rehouse the individual.

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There's category-one hazards everywhere,

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and significant category-one hazards.

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I don't even know... What is that?

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It's coming through from two floors above.

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That's coming through from two floors above?

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-So, actually, this is the habitable room.

-Yeah.

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-There's worse than this?

-Yes, without a shadow of a doubt.

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'I can't believe an elderly person was living in these conditions.

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'Walking around, it makes me wonder how anybody could manage

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'with one room and one chair?

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'But we have to be professional.

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'The house is now empty, so Grant

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'and Rob can get to work, fully assessing the damage, and seeing

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'how much of a risk this property poses to the neighbouring buildings.

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'Then...it gets even worse...'

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-Oh, my God...

-Yeah.

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I think this area here, we've had a burst

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water pipe, so I'm a little bit concerned with you

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-I'm worried about you going through.

-You could go straight through.

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You are starting to get into the realm of a hazard, even coming around to look at this stuff.

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You've got houses on either side of this that rely on this being

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-here and being structurally sound.

-Sound. Exactly.

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Join us later, when we find out the effect these

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problems are having on the life of the next-door neighbour.

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It actually brings tears to my eyes when I think about it,

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-because this was supposed to be my last move.

-Yeah.

-Yeah.

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In Lincolnshire, Chris Gallimore is back on the road

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and I'm about to learn just how much the decisions that

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Housing Officers make can really change lives.

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He's on his way to decide the fate of a bungalow in the village

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of South Hykeham that's seen better days.

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But it's far more than bricks and mortar that are on the line.

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I've lived here now about eight and half years, it's really nice but, the trouble is it's so cold.

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SHE CHUCKLES

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Long-term tenant Elizabeth Greenfield put in an SOS-call

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to the council, after struggling to stay warm.

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It costs about £60 a week to heat it to a reasonable level

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and that doesn't even always bring it up to what it should be.

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Landlady Beverly Hammerton inherited the 1920s property from her parents

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and, along with virtually no insulation,

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came a string of other unwelcome problems.

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It's in a poor state, really. Everything possible needs

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doing to it, I think now, and it used to look really pretty.

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Elizabeth is a widow. She loves the bungalow and wants to stay,

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but knows the future of her home is out of her hands.

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I asked Beverley about doing some repairs to the windows

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and the doors and she came and had a look

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and said she really didn't want to spend money on the property.

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Neither landlord nor tenant knows what to do next. It will be down

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to Chris to assess the bungalow, and determine Elizabeth's fate.

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-Hello.

-Hello, Chris Gallimore from the council.

-That's lovely, come in.

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Chris will be on the lookout for category-one hazards

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those that pose a direct danger to a tenant's health and safety.

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So, that looks at things ranging from excess cold, damp and mould,

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falls on stairs, structural collapse,

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any hazards you can think of - burns, electric shocks.

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This visit could see Chris decide to effectively condemn

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the building, meaning Elizabeth would be forced to move.

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I think, as you get older, you do get more anxious about things.

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You take things, when you're younger, in your stride, very much

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more easily. So, yes, I am a little anxious about it.

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OK, so we've got the issues with the electrics here. Obviously, there's

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a lack of sockets and the trailing leads, which are trip hazards,

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and also the lack of heating. She's using plug-in heaters, as well.

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So, you can see from the condition of the windows, there's a lot

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of issues there, in relation to excess cold, damp and mould.

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To actually replace these would be quite difficult,

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because of the construction of this property.

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Primarily, it's likely to have a lot of asbestos in it.

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It doesn't take long for Chris to uncover a whole host of category- one hazards

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putting tenant Elizabeth at serious risk of harm.

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How do you feel about moving somewhere else?

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Well...I love this cottage, you can

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see the countryside is beautiful around here. I've thoroughly

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-loved it.

-Yeah.

-But she can't afford to do all the work that's

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necessary on it. I think it's more beneficial for her to get rid of it.

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Yeah, well, I've had a discussion with our Housing Needs department

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and they're, kind of, saying that, as it is at the moment,

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you wouldn't get any more priority on your housing allocation.

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But if I were to serve a prohibition order on the property, under the

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Housing Act, then you would get a lot more priority on your housing.

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A prohibition order is a formal notice that deems a property

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unfit for habitation.

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In this case it will allow the landlady to demolish

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and replace the building and give Elizabeth the right to be re-housed.

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-Hopefully, that'll, kind of, help everybody in the situation.

-Yes.

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Because the council can then offer her some accommodation as well, OK.

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-OK, thanks a lot.

-Thank you.

-Cheers. Bye.

-Thank you.

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Goodbye. Bye-bye.

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It's unfortunate that it's going to have to come down,

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but it needs that much work doing to it.

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Yeah, it's going to be sad. It's going to be sad to see it go,

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definitely.

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I shall be sorry to move, because I have loved the bungalow

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and it's been lovely down here,

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but I'm sure it will all work out for the best, in the end.

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Erm... it would be nice to get a property that's warmer

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and perhaps a little more modern.

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I've been in contact with Housing Needs department

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and they have said it will help her case for the prohibition order

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to be on the property, so, obviously, once that's there, she will

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have a wider range of properties to bid on in her preferred location.

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This should be a good solution for everybody, really.

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It's the job of housing officers up and down the UK

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to defend your right to a decent place to live.

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-You're not sleeping here, are you?

-Oh, no, no.

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I'm going to be working alongside the men and women who do just that.

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-It's just room after room of devastation.

-Just everything will need done.

0:23:080:23:11

'I'm hitting the streets -

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'I'm learning on the job...'

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That's just soaking up all the water and bringing it straight in to the house.

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'..to find out what it takes

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to make sure your house is fit to be called a home.'

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-People here are at risk.

-I'm not happy about this property.

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Your tenant's still in here and she's still paying her rent.

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We wanted the stuff to be fixed, so we could carry on living here.

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Back in Sleaford with Chris Gallimore, I've been

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untangling the crucial differences between a tenant and a lodger.

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If the tenant is a member of your household,

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whether it's a relative, et cetera, that makes a difference if you're sharing a house with them,

0:23:460:23:51

because there's a lot less regulations on that.

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Megan Davy has made a complaint about her living conditions here

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and the property owner's reluctance to improve things.

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My family don't want me to be here. They don't feel it's safe

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for a young girl to be here. It's upsetting.

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Megan has no opening windows or a fire alarm and owner

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John knows he doesn't have to provide these, if she's a lodger.

0:24:130:24:15

And that's exactly the same scenario.

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But you're talking different rules and regulations. You're talking

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planning and building control and then you're talking the Housing Act.

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'It's our job to work out where Megan stands in this situation, but if it

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'can be proved she's effectively living as a tenant,

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'then John will have some serious work to do, to bring standards up to scratch.

0:24:300:24:34

'He wouldn't let the camera crew in, but eventually he agreed to me

0:24:360:24:39

'having a look.'

0:24:390:24:41

-Thanks for showing me around.

-Yeah, no problem at all. Like I say, I haven't got any problem with that.

0:24:410:24:45

When going up there, I didn't assume for a moment that it was

0:24:450:24:48

-anything other than Megan's home.

-Uh-hm.

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And, you know, we've got a doorway that's open there.

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You go in there and because it is separate from your home there...

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Yes, if you look at this in an isolated incident, yes, it's very easy to think that, yeah?

0:24:570:25:01

-Yeah.

-But it's not, that's why I wanted to try

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and make it perfectly clear, it is my home. I live here.

0:25:030:25:06

This is the thing, as I'm learning this job and going through

0:25:060:25:09

and finding out bits... if there's a fire in this bit

0:25:090:25:12

and Megan's stuck there, you wouldn't be able to help her at all.

0:25:120:25:16

You would be in your bit, she would be in her bit

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and she would be stuck, without a window to get out of or...

0:25:190:25:21

But that's exactly the same, as I stated, that the law requires no opening windows.

0:25:210:25:25

-But there's the law and then there's...

-I'm just saying...

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..and you as a human being knowing there's another human being in the end of your house.

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I can't have Nanny in the granny annexe, you're telling me?

0:25:320:25:34

-I don't know...

-Same scenario.

-I'm looking at this scenario. I don't know about the granny annexe.

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It's the same scenario, the same thing.

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You can't look at every incident in its own right. We don't do. We have to abide by the rules.

0:25:400:25:44

When it comes to something like fire safety, that's really fundamental,

0:25:440:25:48

and you're taking money off somebody. At that point, it's not about rules

0:25:480:25:52

any more, is it? It's about knowing what's right and how to protect that

0:25:520:25:55

person in case of the worst-case scenario, you know, in case of fire.

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Well, I don't allow them to smoke in their room.

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They've got ventilation. There's ventilation, in there, it's in the toilet.

0:26:020:26:05

-How much ventilation do you have?

-It's more about being able to escape if there's a fire and Megan's

0:26:050:26:10

at the top of these steps, she'd be stuffed. She'd be, you know... She'd be in trouble.

0:26:100:26:14

Well, then it's clear she needs to leave. Everyone needs to leave, simple.

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The property's obviously not to your standards and, therefore, people

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leave. And if that's what Chris decides, that's what'll happen.

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OK, John, thank you for showing me around. And thanks for talking.

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OK, no problem at all, thank you very much.

0:26:270:26:29

Chris, he was claiming that Megan is a lodger and, I've got to say,

0:26:290:26:32

that from everything I've learned so far about housing law,

0:26:320:26:36

-she looked like a tenant to me. What did you make of it?

-Yep.

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Well, certainly we'll have to make more investigations on that matter,

0:26:380:26:41

I'll be speaking to the legal team to see exactly what that situation is.

0:26:410:26:45

And it may be that there isn't any further action that we can

0:26:450:26:47

take against this person, but as I explained to him,

0:26:470:26:50

the reason for this visit, under section 239 of the Housing Act, today

0:26:500:26:54

is for us to gather more information and evidence towards the case.

0:26:540:26:57

A big part of his argument was, "Well, it's certainly better than

0:26:570:27:01

"where she was before." Um, but that doesn't really wash, does it?

0:27:010:27:05

Because you've got to have basic standards for every single bit

0:27:050:27:08

of property where you're taking rent from people and putting them up.

0:27:080:27:11

Yep, I mean, I think, the thing is, you need to take

0:27:110:27:13

responsibility for your tenants and that's it.

0:27:130:27:16

And if there was a fatality or something similar within that

0:27:160:27:19

property, then how would that person feel, you know?

0:27:190:27:21

He's got to be responsible for the tenants that are in there

0:27:210:27:24

and, probably, for the sake of a few hundred pounds,

0:27:240:27:26

he could improve that property quite reasonably, so...

0:27:260:27:29

Yeah, yeah, he didn't quite seem to get that, really.

0:27:290:27:33

Maybe we got the message through, who knows? Thanks, Chris.

0:27:330:27:36

The good news is she's now moved out, She's living with her

0:27:400:27:44

boyfriend and his mum and I'm pleased to say she's very happy.

0:27:440:27:48

Young love. Fantastic.

0:27:480:27:49

The housing law that I've been getting to grips with is there

0:27:550:27:58

to make sure that everyone has the right to live in a safe home.

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And in Kent, Mark has been using it in the case of a run-down

0:28:010:28:05

rental property in Margate that's anything but.

0:28:050:28:08

When I first came in this ceiling was down, the carpet was worn,

0:28:080:28:13

very likely to cause trips, very insecure. There's holes in the walls.

0:28:130:28:17

This building is in an area of town where there's a high concentration

0:28:170:28:21

of rental housing.

0:28:210:28:23

Because of this, the council operates a selective

0:28:230:28:25

licensing scheme, to try and pull up standards.

0:28:250:28:28

But over the last nine months, the four flats have fallen

0:28:280:28:32

into such disrepair and the tenants are fed up.

0:28:320:28:35

He kept saying, "I'll do something", but I've not had anything done,

0:28:350:28:41

I'm waiting for a new carpet, that's been about four years!

0:28:410:28:45

Just three weeks' later,

0:28:470:28:48

Mark is going back to the flats, to make sure that work is under way.

0:28:480:28:52

He's inspecting the building flat-by-flat and the first happy

0:28:520:28:56

tenant Kelly, can't wait to show off the improvements to her home.

0:28:560:28:59

Come in.

0:28:590:29:00

-So...

-It's all being decorated at the moment, so...!

0:29:000:29:04

-It's looking a lot better, isn't it?

-Yes, very much better.

0:29:040:29:07

There's no more water coming through?

0:29:070:29:09

No more water coming through, at the moment, touch wood, because we've had no weather at the moment.

0:29:090:29:15

-Yeah, I'm pleased with that.

-Yes, very good.

-Thank you.

-Good luck, thank you.

0:29:150:29:18

SHE CHUCKLES

0:29:180:29:20

But Mark knows there's one tenant whose problems run a lot deeper

0:29:200:29:23

than a lick of paint.

0:29:230:29:24

Hello Mr Whitworth, Mark Goldhawk.

0:29:240:29:27

Mark Whitworth has to clean up this place before any work can be done.

0:29:270:29:32

-It's a lot cleaner than the last time you were here.

-I think it is, actually.

0:29:320:29:36

-I started cleaning the cooker, but ran out of cleaning stuff.

-Yeah.

0:29:360:29:41

I can see that he's made an attempt, but, unfortunately, if you are

0:29:410:29:44

depressed, I suppose, and it sounds like he is very, very despondent,

0:29:440:29:48

then the last thing he's thinking about is doing the cleaning.

0:29:480:29:52

I'm not here to be his social worker,

0:29:520:29:54

I'm here to deal with the conditions in the property.

0:29:540:29:57

Hopefully, in a couple of weeks' time, it'll be a lot better.

0:29:570:30:00

At least a plan is in place that will allow Mark's flat to be sorted out.

0:30:000:30:05

He's going to be temporarily rehoused once work begins.

0:30:050:30:08

-Once they've finished flat three, I'm moving up to flat three.

-You're moving up to flat three?

0:30:080:30:13

While they're doing my place, because mine is the biggest problem.

0:30:130:30:17

There's light at the end of the tunnel now, they've started the work,

0:30:170:30:22

so just try and keep your chin up and, hopefully, in the next...

0:30:220:30:25

-Hopefully, yeah.

-..two to three weeks your living conditions will be significantly better.

0:30:250:30:31

Hopefully, yeah.

0:30:310:30:33

Things are moving, but I am discovering that Mark, like all

0:30:330:30:35

housing officers, can't sort out everybody's problems all at once.

0:30:350:30:40

With a vulnerable tenant like Mr Whitworth, it is very much

0:30:400:30:42

a work in progress.

0:30:420:30:45

I am working with other agencies to support Mr Whitworth.

0:30:450:30:47

I mean, there

0:30:470:30:49

are other professionals that will go in there and help him.

0:30:490:30:52

But, I think, this is one that I'll be keeping an eye on.

0:30:520:30:55

At housing HQ, in St Helens, Merseyside, Glynn Griffiths

0:31:030:31:07

has discovered a real dump.

0:31:070:31:09

Councils have little sympathy for fly-tippers,

0:31:110:31:14

and if you're caught persistently dumping,

0:31:140:31:16

you can land yourself with a £2,500 fine.

0:31:160:31:19

But there are some real wasters out there, whose rubbish doesn't

0:31:190:31:23

even make it to the street and it's a real problem

0:31:230:31:26

for their neighbours.

0:31:260:31:28

When this happens, it becomes a matter for the housing enforcers.

0:31:280:31:33

Glynn's one, so he is going to pop off and have look in his car,

0:31:330:31:36

but what I am wondering is, how often do they pick up the bins here?

0:31:360:31:40

There's a fortnightly bin collection for domestic waste that's

0:31:400:31:44

provided by the council, so there's no excuse for it that I know of.

0:31:440:31:49

Glynn's found three filthy backyards that need to transform pronto.

0:31:500:31:55

Can you empty the bins for me, please? So they've got a clean start.

0:31:570:32:00

Tenants are given three weeks to get rid of the rubbish themselves,

0:32:000:32:03

but if they take no notice, the council cavalry are called in.

0:32:030:32:07

-Bringing with them the men in white suits.

-Contractors invoice us,

0:32:070:32:10

which we then charge back to the occupier of the property.

0:32:100:32:13

Now, around here,

0:32:130:32:15

neighbours have become sick of the stench from this garden.

0:32:150:32:18

There's an open sewer there, We'll write to the owner

0:32:180:32:21

of the property and give him 14 days to get that put right.

0:32:210:32:25

But the drain issue is just the tip of this tip(!) Hm(!)

0:32:250:32:29

Lucky, it's raining, so there's not too much of an odour,

0:32:290:32:32

but you can imagine, on a hot sunny day, it's going to be pretty nasty

0:32:320:32:35

and if you're living next door to it with your kitchen window open,

0:32:350:32:38

there's going to be a fly problem and it's just going to be pretty stinky.

0:32:380:32:42

Glynn knows bins and he feels that each one tells its own story.

0:32:430:32:49

Someone's getting married.

0:32:490:32:51

It's a filthy job, but someone's got to do it, that's what they say.

0:32:510:32:54

All 19 barrowloads.

0:32:540:32:57

Doesn't really bother me, the smell any more.

0:32:570:32:59

When you first start it bothers you, then you just become immune to it.

0:32:590:33:03

I wouldn't, but that's just the start of it...

0:33:030:33:06

This is the second property I've got a warrant for.

0:33:070:33:10

I have spoken with the occupier. She's made some effort

0:33:100:33:13

to clear it, but there's still quite a significant amount left in there.

0:33:130:33:16

And the funny thing is,

0:33:160:33:19

it's bin day today.

0:33:190:33:20

It's about £100 to clear away that

0:33:210:33:24

quantity, but the crazy thing is, the bin men are out on site now.

0:33:240:33:29

If the bin was made available, the binmen would take it away for nothing.

0:33:290:33:33

So, put your bin out or get a fine from the council.

0:33:330:33:37

They're chucking money away, much to the dismay of the street's

0:33:370:33:40

more house-proud inhabitants. They've had it up to here.

0:33:400:33:44

There's no need for it. They clean it every two weeks

0:33:450:33:48

and then someone else puts a load of rubbish back out again.

0:33:480:33:51

I mean, that's clothes. You could take them to the charity shop.

0:33:510:33:54

I feel very sorry for the council, people coming out doing that.

0:33:540:33:58

Yeah, well, do you know what? The worst is still to come,

0:34:000:34:03

because Glyn, it appears, has drawn the short straw.

0:34:030:34:06

There's dog faeces, there's nappies, there's food waste.

0:34:090:34:12

Under the shed is the perfect spot for vermin.

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There is some clear signs, there's some shredded-up rubbish,

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gnawing, so you can see that there have been rats in there.

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It's a rat B&B, everything's there that they need, food, water,

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shelter, everything's en-suite.

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If only it was just rats who lived here.

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There's a family in this house with young children.

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It's not a healthy environment.

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My dog's got a better life than what's going on here.

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It's just... It's heart breaking.

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As far as I can I detach myself, my home life, from what I see at work.

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I look at how my kids, and how my step kids have been brought up and...

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..I don't think, sometimes, they realise how good they've got it.

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There's kids out there that are living in squalor,

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living in filth and no matter how much money you throw at it,

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it's not going to be put right. You can educate and educate

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and educate but, you know, it's...

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I shudder to think what it's like inside.

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At least the backyard is now finally beginning to resemble

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a garden again.

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The work they've done today,

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given the fact it's all been strewn around the garden, it's been quite

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a labour-intensive clear-up, it's going to be at least

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£200 maybe £300.

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As we've said for all the jobs today - put your bin out,

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on bin days.

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You'll save money and get along much better with your neighbours.

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Back in Harwich, in Essex, we're visiting a property

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that's become a real worry for the housing team.

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Not to mention, anyone nearby.

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You've got houses on either side of this,

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that rely on this being here and being structurally sound.

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Sound. Exactly.

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Teresa Kemp got more than she bargained for

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when she moved into the house next door.

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It's caused the party wall, the wall between their property

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and my property to have damp problems.

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When housing officers Grant and Rob visited to assess the damage,

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Teresa had just about had enough.

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It actually brings tears to my eyes when I think about it,

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-because this was supposed to be my last move.

-Yeah.

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We've got a good idea of what's going on now.

0:36:430:36:46

Don't worry too much, we've got a variety of different options

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-we're looking at.

-OK.

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It is very upsetting.

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Having established that the house is putting the adjoining

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buildings at risk, Grant and Rob

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must find a solution, to stop the rot from spreading.

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It's coming through from two floors above.

0:37:030:37:05

-You can see that.

-So, there's worse than this?

-Yes.

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'One option would be for the council

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'to carry out the works in default, forcing the owner to pay

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'once the house has been repaired. And it's a big job.'

0:37:140:37:18

This has just got to be completely gutted, hasn't it?

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Oh, it's a major refurb, top to bottom.

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'But before they can make a decision it's our job to calculate

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'the full extent of the damage.'

0:37:260:37:28

I feel I need to see all of this.

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This particular area really shows the full extent of the problem that we've got.

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I don't know if you notice the floors are sheeted, the bed's sheeted.

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Is that the occupant who's done that?

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To prevent water from going in to the downstairs.

0:37:460:37:48

-So, the roof's completely gone, then?

-Yeah.

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So, you've got water coming down and the only way they could do anything about it is by putting...

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-If you look to the...

-There's a dustbin full of water.

-Dustbin...

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-refuse bin, full of water.

-No sleep was taking place in here.

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None at all, no. No-one's been in here for many, many years.

0:38:000:38:03

That's almost frozen in time, that bed, isn't it?

0:38:040:38:08

1990.

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You can see again...

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Obviously, we've got a real problem with the roof here.

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You can see the mould growth on the floor, here, look. Fungus.

0:38:150:38:19

-Fully-fledged...?

-Fungus.

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Tree-stump fungus.

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Look here, you've got the wallpaper, and the plaster has come in sheets.

0:38:250:38:29

-It's actually come straight off.

-It's come off in sheet, yeah.

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Let's look at the rest of the first floor.

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'The more we explore, the more it clear to all of us

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'just how much work needs to be done.'

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I don't know how we're even going to get in because, I think, the floor's

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-so badly shot.

-Oh, God.

0:38:450:38:48

-It's... it's just devastation in here.

-Absolutely.

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The ceiling's gone completely and underneath it, is just a single

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bed and just piles of newspapers.

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It looks like a warzone.

0:39:030:39:05

Oh, my God, so you've got water coming in from the roof.

0:39:050:39:08

You've got damp. I take it that's what that is?

0:39:080:39:11

-That's rising damp, yeah.

-And rising damp from the ground which has

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-made it all the way to the ceiling.

-Can I just take you out here?

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Is there more? Oh, man!

0:39:170:39:19

-It's the bathroom.

-Yeah.

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I mean, it's just room after room of devastation,

0:39:250:39:27

every room you go in.

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'Our inspection has put the estimated cost of just making the

0:39:300:39:33

'property safe for the neighbours at well over £40,000.'

0:39:330:39:38

If it was a detached house, you'd almost say, "Knock it down

0:39:380:39:41

and start again." But because it's in between two you've got to do

0:39:410:39:45

-something, haven't you?

-We've got major, major issue.

0:39:450:39:47

'With the cost of repair so high,

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'a works-in-default order could leave the council left to foot the bill.

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'Grant and Rob must find an alternative solution.'

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So, what's the next step here, then?

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The next step is, it may be that we have to look

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at a compulsory purchase order to buy it ourselves and then deal with it.

0:40:040:40:08

We're looking at the roof structure. Get it watertight,

0:40:080:40:11

sort the party wall agreements out and then deal with the rising damp.

0:40:110:40:15

-A watertight shell...

-Yeah.

-..that's not going to effect the other properties.

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Remove the nuisance.

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The only other option would be to find a private developer

0:40:200:40:23

who would buy the house, but either way, it seems extreme measures

0:40:230:40:27

are going to be needed, to save this building and to help the neighbours.

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I thought you were over-egging it, by giving me

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-personal-protection equipment, but you weren't, were you?

-Not at all.

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Is that a one-off. Do you come across, have you come across, other places like that?

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Regularly. It's a regular occurrence now.

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'The housing officers that I'm working with are desperately

0:40:440:40:47

'trying to get the best result for EVERYBODY involved.

0:40:470:40:51

'Um, but trying to do that requires a great

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'deal of skill on their part and a huge amount

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'of human understanding.'

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So, bravo, I'm not worthy... yet.

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'Someone else who thought my skills weren't really up to scratch

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'was Megan's landlord John Price.

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'Without me, though, obviously, the legal team have come to a decision.'

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It turns out that Chris, and I, were absolutely right.

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Megan was never a lodger,

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she couldn't access her landlord's home and the facilities in there

0:41:240:41:28

without going downstairs from her bedsit and going outside.

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As a result, she was never a lodger, she was a tenant,

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and should have received all the rights that go with that name.

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Landlord John Price is appealing that decision.

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That's it for today's show. Join me next time, on the front line,

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with Britain's housing officers.

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