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The law says everyone has the right to a safe place to live... | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
-We want to get your problem sorted out. -..but for thousands of people | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
across Britain, the reality can be more hovel than home. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:13 | |
-That gully pan was up to the top with -BLEEP. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
This is not right, this. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
In the battle between tenants | 0:00:17 | 0:00:18 | |
and landlords, it's local housing officers who are on the front line. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:22 | |
This is a really dangerous place to be living. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
I'm Matt Allwright and I've been training hard, | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
ready to join the ranks of the Housing Enforcers. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
-The fire's in here, you're in there... -Yes. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
You can't get out. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:35 | |
They are tackling problem properties... | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
In the walls, I hear scratching. | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
It's a bit of a death trap. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
..dealing with the consequences of nightmare neighbours... | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
-Urine running down the wall. -..and everything in between. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
The moment's passed and nothing gets done. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
-I'm so pleased for you. -I feel like I've won the lottery. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
You're looking like a bad landlord. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
'Today, I'm straight in at the deep end with an upset landlord.' | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
-Stop filming and leave my house. -OK, we'll leave. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
Why is it you didn't want us in there to see it? | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
Housing officer Glynn has got a mess to sort out. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
There's dog faeces, there's food waste. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
It's a rat B&B. Everything's en-suite. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
And one tenant needs to clean up his act. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
It's in a deplorable condition. The bathroom's filthy, | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
the kitchen's filthy. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:27 | |
After three years, I thought - "Forget it, what's the point?" | 0:01:27 | 0:01:32 | |
-It would help me if you clean it up. -BLEEP. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:35 | |
It's said that an Englishman's home is his castle, | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
but if that castle is rented, then it is the job of housing officers | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
to make sure that it's a decent place to live. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
They keep an eye on private landlords, to make sure | 0:01:50 | 0:01:53 | |
the properties are up to scratch AND provide somebody with a decent home. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
In Lincolnshire, that's the job | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
of housing officer Chris Gallimore. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
We've come to Sleaford, to visit a property that Chris | 0:02:06 | 0:02:09 | |
has serious concerns about. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
But to fix the problems, first, we've got to work out | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
if we're dealing with a tenant or a lodger, as I'm about to find out. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
We're here because there's been a complaint, is that right? | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
That's right, yeah. There's a young lady who's in a... | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
..what seems to be | 0:02:27 | 0:02:28 | |
a self-contained flat and she's basically saying | 0:02:28 | 0:02:31 | |
there's no ventilation in there. Also, there's no proper sink, | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
there's issues with the fire escape, and things like that. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
I have actually done an informal visit and checked a few things, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
but there's more I'd like to check. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:41 | |
When we're going in there, we're checking not just for | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
the stuff that we can see, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
but it's also the basis under which she's there. Is that right? | 0:02:46 | 0:02:50 | |
That's correct, yeah. I think the owner's saying that it's part | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
of his property and it's a lodger within his own property. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
And these distinctions are absolutely crucial | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
when you're working out the rights of the occupant? | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
Yep. As soon as you start charging rent and it's a person | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
not related to yourself, then there's more issues. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
The big question here is - is she a tenant or is she a lodger? | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
-And that's very important. Shall we go and have a look? -It is. Yep, OK. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
We're here to meet Megan Davy, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
who is absolutely sick of her living conditions. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
And I haven't got a kitchen, I can't cook proper meals, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
I'm having to live on ready meals. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
For the past eight months, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
home for Megan has been on the first floor of this property. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
Things that are dangerous are the stairs. The doors aren't secure. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:38 | |
Anyone can go straight through them. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
It is upsetting. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
I'm diabetic, as well, and that's where my health is getting worse. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:48 | |
-Oh. -Interesting. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
My family don't want me to be here. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
They don't feel that it's safe for a young girl to be here. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
-Hi, you all right? -Yes, thank you. | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
-Hello there, how you doing? -I'm all right, thank you. -Good, good. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:03 | |
-So this is, this is your flat? -It is, yeah. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
And you've got, sort of, well, it's a kitchenette, sort of, thing. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
So, you've got a fridge and a freezer, but there's no... | 0:04:11 | 0:04:15 | |
You've got no running water there at all. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
Then, you've got a bathroom area. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:20 | |
Is that where you...? That's where your running water is coming from? | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
You've got...one window. That's the only window there? | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
Yeah, and there's just no air coming through. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
-That's why I've opened the door. -Those windows don't open there? | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
They don't open, no. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:34 | |
Why did you call in to Chris and the guys at the council? | 0:04:34 | 0:04:38 | |
I've not been very well recently and I feel something needs | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
to be done with the properties that my landlord is renting. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
-Can I ask you how much you're paying for this? -£70 a week. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
Right. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:50 | |
'Now, it's very early days on the job for me, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
'but this is a complex case. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:55 | |
'Chris thinks Megan is a tenant. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
'If she is, the owner of this property is breaking the law, | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
'because she should have some kind of ventilation in her bedroom | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
'and a fire alarm to keep her safe. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
'A conversation with the man himself might help us | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
'sort out Megan's problems. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
KNOCKS DOOR | 0:05:10 | 0:05:11 | |
Hello? | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
-Hi, there. -Hello. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:15 | |
-Hello, there. -And, er, what's happening here? | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
Can you stop filming and leave my house, please? | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
-OK. -OK, we've been asked to leave, we'll leave. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
I've still got to do my inspection today. | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
-You are welcome to do your inspection. -OK. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
Why didn't you want us in there to see it? I'm just interested. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
Cos I think it's... | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
rather nice to actually be asked, before you wander in | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
to someone's property. I thought that's only polite. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
OK, well, I see that as Megan's home. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
'And at the heart of this case | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
'is whether Megan is, legally, a tenant or a lodger. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
'A lodger lives in the owner's home | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
'and has shared use of the rest of the property. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
'But if you're a tenant, it's your home | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
'and you can control who comes and goes. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
'You need to check your paperwork | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
'and see that it matches your circumstances. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:03 | |
'You should have signed either a lodger agreement | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
or 'an Assured Shorthold Tenancy, or AST. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
'Megan's home makes me think she should be a tenant. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
'I want to find out more from John.' | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
Has she got an Assured Shorthold Tenancy? | 0:06:14 | 0:06:15 | |
-No, she's a lodger. -She's a lodger? -This is my house. This is my house. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
She's got her own front door. She's got her own facilities within the property? | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
She's put in her own. I haven't supplied them. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
-But she's got a fridge there? -She's put them in, yes. -She's put those fridges in there | 0:06:25 | 0:06:29 | |
-and there are two spaces there for fridges. -That was a work space. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
-She's got toilet, she's got an en-suite. -She's got an en-suite. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
-But that does feel like it should be a tenancy. -Well, it's not. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
A tenancy needs a kitchen. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:38 | |
'Yes, but if he's arguing that Megan IS a lodger, then surely | 0:06:38 | 0:06:43 | |
'she should be able to cook a decent meal for herself, whenever she pleases?' | 0:06:43 | 0:06:47 | |
-She's free to use your kitchen, as a shared kitchen? -If she wants to, yes. -Right. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:52 | |
And she's got access through the property to get to that? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
No, she hasn't got access. No, she comes and sees us. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
Right, so she's got to go down the stairs, | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
out the door and back around to your front door, to use the kitchen. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
-Correct. -Not very convenient, is it? -Nor is living in a car. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
She was living in a car, because the council couldn't house her. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
I offered her something better than a car, which she was happy to have. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
If we're working on the basis that all housing in the UK | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
is acceptable if it's better than living in a car, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:19 | |
that's not really a workable proposition, is it? | 0:07:19 | 0:07:22 | |
-As you can see, work is in progress. -But the point is, when you're taking money from people, | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
you say as a lodger, and I would suggest it looks more | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
like a tenancy to me, then, at that point, you have a responsibility... | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
Well, you're already telling me you're not aware of the rules | 0:07:31 | 0:07:34 | |
and regulations because you didn't even know | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
I could have a room without a window. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:37 | |
There's no fire alarms in that building. And there's no means of escape. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:41 | |
-You don't need a fire alarm in a domestic property. -There's no means of escape. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
I do not need... Do I need, by law, a fire alarm in a domestic property? | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
Well, we'll assess it under... within The Housing Act. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
-Yeah, but that's true, but it's a domestic house. -Yeah. -Domestic. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
-You cannot enforce me to have... -We've proved she's got no use of your facilities. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:56 | |
-She has to go out and back in. -You haven't proved it at all. -You said it yourself. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
The fact that she has to come out of there to use it, | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
-doesn't mean she hasn't got the use of it. -Let him complete the inspection and then make a judgment. | 0:08:01 | 0:08:06 | |
I will. I've said I'm happy for him to do his inspection, I've got no problems with that. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Well, why don't we wait until he's done his inspection and then decides what the case is? | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
Well, I'll go in with him and we'll do an inspection in there. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
OK, would you be all right for the cameras to come with you. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
-No, I don't want them in there. -OK. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
That was intense. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
We came up against a landlord who really knew his stuff | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
and it was a test, not just of me, actually, but of Chris, as well, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
of our knowledge of housing law. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
So, just to be clear, if Megan is a lodger, to use the kitchen | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
she would have to leave her room, go down the stairs, out into | 0:08:35 | 0:08:40 | |
the courtyard, knock on the door, and then use the kitchen, if he's in. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:45 | |
He's saying that's the basis upon which it's a house share, | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
NOT a tenancy. | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
Actually arguing that with someone that quite clearly knows his way | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
around housing law is tricky. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
And made me realise I need to hit the books a little bit more, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
if I am genuinely to call myself a housing officer. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
But this case isn't closed yet. We'll find out later | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
if John manages to have the last word. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
Now, in Kent, Thanet Council has another way of dealing with | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
problem landlords. It's called Selective Licensing. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
And it's a valuable weapon in the armoury | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
of Housing Officer Mark Goldhawk. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
His patch is the old-school seaside town of Margate - | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
a landlord's paradise, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:38 | |
full of buildings converted into multiple flats and bedsits. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:43 | |
In parts of this town, and many others across Britain, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
landlords are forced to purchase a compulsory licence, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
with strict regulations that they must stick to. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
It's an effective way for the council to keep standards up | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
and landlords in line. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:56 | |
Often, landlords do as much as they need to do to stop us | 0:10:00 | 0:10:06 | |
taking further action. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
We're going to a Victorian property. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
It's a selectively-licensed property but it's not meeting | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
the conditions of licence. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
When he first inspected the building nine months ago, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
Mark found it in a desperate state of repair. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:22 | |
These are the photos from my first visit. In the common areas, | 0:10:22 | 0:10:25 | |
there's no lighting, the stairs were in a dangerous condition, | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
the balustrading was missing, the carpet was worn, there was | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
no fire detection and there was penetrating dampness. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:38 | |
Mark has been asking for work to begin for nine months | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
and now the builders have finally started work. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
Damage to the building had begun to spiral out of control dangerously. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
One of the major problems they've had is a leak to the roof. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:55 | |
The water is leaking through. It's caused a funnel here, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
it's come out, but it's also spread in to the flats at each level, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
so it's brought the ceilings down. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
It's not usual to find a funnel | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
as big as that. No, it's quite like a waterfall coming through there. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
The work in the hall is, at least, a sign of progress, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
but managing the conditions inside the flats is a much bigger battle. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:16 | |
-Hello, Mr Whitworth, can I come in? -Yep. -Thank you. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
Tenant Mark Whitworth's home is in a shocking state of decay - | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
he says he's been waiting for work to be done for years. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:29 | |
That window, I've been waiting for six years. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
The ceiling, I've waited for three years... | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
Bathroom I've been waiting for | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
two and a half years. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:41 | |
I got a new hot water tank after about | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
a two-year wait. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:45 | |
CHUCKLES | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
I'm beginning to realise that sometimes both parties | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
let their responsibilities slide. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
It's clear that Mark's | 0:11:53 | 0:11:54 | |
attitude to the flat hasn't helped the conditions he's living in. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:58 | |
After three years I thought, | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
"Forget it, what's the point?" | 0:12:01 | 0:12:04 | |
I just want a decent place to live in. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:08 | |
I can see that they've started doing work in the common area, | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
has anything happened in here? | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
-Yeah, I've got a new kitchen ceiling. -Right. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:16 | |
-They've put in a for a new bathroom suite. -Great. | 0:12:16 | 0:12:21 | |
So, hopefully, I'll have a new toilet, bath and sink soon. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
-Right, and anything about heating? -Heating. No, not yet. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
Right, I'll have a quick look, then, just to see what they've done. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
There is still some disrepair here. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
It's a challenge to see | 0:12:37 | 0:12:38 | |
beyond all the mess and, indeed, how anyone could live like this? | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
A lot of it is actually down to the tenant. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
He's not cleaning, the bathroom's filthy, | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
the kitchen's filthy, but there are maintenance issues there, as well. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
Ah, that's good, new ceiling. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:54 | |
The most important thing is to get the fire detection sorted out. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:57 | |
Obviously, we've got four flats here, four lots of cooking facilities. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
Tenant Mark has clearly given up on his home altogether, | 0:13:01 | 0:13:04 | |
but for housing officers, the most pressing problem is safety. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
Fire can spread very quickly through this type of construction, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
so what we rely on is early detection of fire, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
so that's what we'll be pushing them to do. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
Occasionally, we hear of people dying in fires, particularly in multiple- occupied buildings. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
This is the type of premises where that happens. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
It's a shame that it's taken nine months for the work to start work. | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
The builders are tackling the disrepair in the flat, | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
but housing officer Mark still has to deal with the sensitive | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
question of making sure the tenant does his bit. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
It would help me if you could tidy that and clean it up. A good clean. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:41 | |
You know what it's like. I get depressed. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
I know, but we want to get your problems sorted out | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
and the chap's just said to me on the phone that he's reluctant | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
to send the electricians in to a couple of the flats and one of them | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
is yours. I'm sure, so if you can get it tidied up it'll be good for you. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:56 | |
What hits you | 0:13:56 | 0:13:57 | |
when you go into that property is it's in a deplorable condition. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:01 | |
I don't want to come back next week and find that an electrician | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
or plumber has turned up and refused to do the work because of the state | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
of the property, so I just need to give him a gentle push in the right direction, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
to make sure that we do get the work done that we want done. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
Very diplomatic, Mark. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
This job isn't just about landlords and tenants. If a house | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
really hasn't been looked after, then it can pose problems not just | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
for the owner or the occupants, but for an innocent next-door neighbour. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
To see for myself just how bad things can get, | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
I'm with housing officers Grant Fenton-Jones and Rob Goswell. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:44 | |
Putting this on. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:45 | |
'We've come to a house in Harwich, Essex. It's clear | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
'this won't be an ordinary house call.' | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
We want to be able to see you and also we want you to wear a hard hat, | 0:14:50 | 0:14:52 | |
just in case anything was to fall on you. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
-It's that bad? -Potentially, yeah. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:58 | |
This house first came on to Grant and Rob's radar | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
after a desperate call from next-door neighbour Teresa Kemp. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
The property next door has been vacant, er, for a while | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
but even before it was vacant, windows had been smashed, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
rainwater was obviously getting in and it's caused | 0:15:12 | 0:15:17 | |
the wall between their property and my property to have damp problems. | 0:15:17 | 0:15:21 | |
So, the plaster is coming off, there are big patches | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
of mildewy areas, if you like. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
Some days, when I come down and I actually | 0:15:28 | 0:15:30 | |
see it's worsened almost overnight. It is very upsetting. | 0:15:30 | 0:15:34 | |
'Well, if there is that much damp | 0:15:38 | 0:15:40 | |
'in TERESA'S house, how bad must this one be?' | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
Careful, careful with your steps. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
-Oh, my God... -I don't know if you can feel the damp on the floor? -You can see the damp on the floor, | 0:15:46 | 0:15:51 | |
-Can you feel it under your feet? -It's like... | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
-It's like treading on... -The walls are actually wet, still. -You've got your... | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
-Oh, my God. -It's not breakfast. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
-This is unbelievable. -Yeah. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
'Believe it or not, until recently, this house was | 0:16:05 | 0:16:08 | |
'occupied by an elderly widow, but the place has fallen into such | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
'disrepair that the council had no choice but to rehouse her.' | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
This is the only form of heat in the whole property. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
There was one socket that was working. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:23 | |
-So, this is someone's home that they own? -Yes. -At some point, | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
you've got the power, then to say to someone, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
"You can't live here any more, even though it's your own home." | 0:16:30 | 0:16:32 | |
-Yeah. -I mean, that is a very difficult job to pull off, isn't it? | 0:16:32 | 0:16:36 | |
-That person doesn't want to leave their own home. Clearly. -Exactly. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
I mean, in this instance, we've been lucky. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
We've been able to rehouse the individual. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
There's category-one hazards everywhere, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:46 | |
and significant category-one hazards. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
I don't even know... What is that? | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
It's coming through from two floors above. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
That's coming through from two floors above? | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
-So, actually, this is the habitable room. -Yeah. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
-There's worse than this? -Yes, without a shadow of a doubt. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
'I can't believe an elderly person was living in these conditions. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
'Walking around, it makes me wonder how anybody could manage | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
'with one room and one chair? | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
'But we have to be professional. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
'The house is now empty, so Grant | 0:17:13 | 0:17:15 | |
'and Rob can get to work, fully assessing the damage, and seeing | 0:17:15 | 0:17:18 | |
'how much of a risk this property poses to the neighbouring buildings. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
'Then...it gets even worse...' | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
-Oh, my God... -Yeah. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
I think this area here, we've had a burst | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
water pipe, so I'm a little bit concerned with you | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
-I'm worried about you going through. -You could go straight through. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
You are starting to get into the realm of a hazard, even coming around to look at this stuff. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
You've got houses on either side of this that rely on this being | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
-here and being structurally sound. -Sound. Exactly. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
Join us later, when we find out the effect these | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
problems are having on the life of the next-door neighbour. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
It actually brings tears to my eyes when I think about it, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
-because this was supposed to be my last move. -Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
In Lincolnshire, Chris Gallimore is back on the road | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
and I'm about to learn just how much the decisions that | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
Housing Officers make can really change lives. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
He's on his way to decide the fate of a bungalow in the village | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
of South Hykeham that's seen better days. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
But it's far more than bricks and mortar that are on the line. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
I've lived here now about eight and half years, it's really nice but, the trouble is it's so cold. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:34 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:18:34 | 0:18:35 | |
Long-term tenant Elizabeth Greenfield put in an SOS-call | 0:18:35 | 0:18:38 | |
to the council, after struggling to stay warm. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
It costs about £60 a week to heat it to a reasonable level | 0:18:42 | 0:18:47 | |
and that doesn't even always bring it up to what it should be. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
Landlady Beverly Hammerton inherited the 1920s property from her parents | 0:18:52 | 0:18:58 | |
and, along with virtually no insulation, | 0:18:58 | 0:19:00 | |
came a string of other unwelcome problems. | 0:19:00 | 0:19:04 | |
It's in a poor state, really. Everything possible needs | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
doing to it, I think now, and it used to look really pretty. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:13 | |
Elizabeth is a widow. She loves the bungalow and wants to stay, | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
but knows the future of her home is out of her hands. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
I asked Beverley about doing some repairs to the windows | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
and the doors and she came and had a look | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
and said she really didn't want to spend money on the property. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:30 | |
Neither landlord nor tenant knows what to do next. It will be down | 0:19:30 | 0:19:34 | |
to Chris to assess the bungalow, and determine Elizabeth's fate. | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
-Hello. -Hello, Chris Gallimore from the council. -That's lovely, come in. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:44 | |
Chris will be on the lookout for category-one hazards | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
those that pose a direct danger to a tenant's health and safety. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
So, that looks at things ranging from excess cold, damp and mould, | 0:19:51 | 0:19:55 | |
falls on stairs, structural collapse, | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
any hazards you can think of - burns, electric shocks. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
This visit could see Chris decide to effectively condemn | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
the building, meaning Elizabeth would be forced to move. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:08 | |
I think, as you get older, you do get more anxious about things. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
You take things, when you're younger, in your stride, very much | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
more easily. So, yes, I am a little anxious about it. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
OK, so we've got the issues with the electrics here. Obviously, there's | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
a lack of sockets and the trailing leads, which are trip hazards, | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
and also the lack of heating. She's using plug-in heaters, as well. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:34 | |
So, you can see from the condition of the windows, there's a lot | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
of issues there, in relation to excess cold, damp and mould. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
To actually replace these would be quite difficult, | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
because of the construction of this property. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
Primarily, it's likely to have a lot of asbestos in it. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:51 | |
It doesn't take long for Chris to uncover a whole host of category- one hazards | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
putting tenant Elizabeth at serious risk of harm. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:59 | |
How do you feel about moving somewhere else? | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
Well...I love this cottage, you can | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
see the countryside is beautiful around here. I've thoroughly | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
-loved it. -Yeah. -But she can't afford to do all the work that's | 0:21:09 | 0:21:14 | |
necessary on it. I think it's more beneficial for her to get rid of it. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:19 | |
Yeah, well, I've had a discussion with our Housing Needs department | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
and they're, kind of, saying that, as it is at the moment, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
you wouldn't get any more priority on your housing allocation. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:30 | |
But if I were to serve a prohibition order on the property, under the | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
Housing Act, then you would get a lot more priority on your housing. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
A prohibition order is a formal notice that deems a property | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
unfit for habitation. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:42 | |
In this case it will allow the landlady to demolish | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
and replace the building and give Elizabeth the right to be re-housed. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:50 | |
-Hopefully, that'll, kind of, help everybody in the situation. -Yes. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
Because the council can then offer her some accommodation as well, OK. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
-OK, thanks a lot. -Thank you. -Cheers. Bye. -Thank you. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
Goodbye. Bye-bye. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:03 | |
It's unfortunate that it's going to have to come down, | 0:22:05 | 0:22:07 | |
but it needs that much work doing to it. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:10 | |
Yeah, it's going to be sad. It's going to be sad to see it go, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
definitely. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
I shall be sorry to move, because I have loved the bungalow | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
and it's been lovely down here, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
but I'm sure it will all work out for the best, in the end. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
Erm... it would be nice to get a property that's warmer | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
and perhaps a little more modern. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:33 | |
I've been in contact with Housing Needs department | 0:22:35 | 0:22:38 | |
and they have said it will help her case for the prohibition order | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
to be on the property, so, obviously, once that's there, she will | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
have a wider range of properties to bid on in her preferred location. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
This should be a good solution for everybody, really. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
It's the job of housing officers up and down the UK | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
to defend your right to a decent place to live. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
-You're not sleeping here, are you? -Oh, no, no. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
I'm going to be working alongside the men and women who do just that. | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
-It's just room after room of devastation. -Just everything will need done. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
'I'm hitting the streets - | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
'I'm learning on the job...' | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
That's just soaking up all the water and bringing it straight in to the house. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
'..to find out what it takes | 0:23:19 | 0:23:20 | |
to make sure your house is fit to be called a home.' | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
-People here are at risk. -I'm not happy about this property. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
Your tenant's still in here and she's still paying her rent. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
We wanted the stuff to be fixed, so we could carry on living here. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
Back in Sleaford with Chris Gallimore, I've been | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
untangling the crucial differences between a tenant and a lodger. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
If the tenant is a member of your household, | 0:23:44 | 0:23:46 | |
whether it's a relative, et cetera, that makes a difference if you're sharing a house with them, | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
because there's a lot less regulations on that. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:53 | |
Megan Davy has made a complaint about her living conditions here | 0:23:53 | 0:23:57 | |
and the property owner's reluctance to improve things. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
My family don't want me to be here. They don't feel it's safe | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
for a young girl to be here. It's upsetting. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
Megan has no opening windows or a fire alarm and owner | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
John knows he doesn't have to provide these, if she's a lodger. | 0:24:13 | 0:24:15 | |
And that's exactly the same scenario. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:17 | |
But you're talking different rules and regulations. You're talking | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
planning and building control and then you're talking the Housing Act. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:24 | |
'It's our job to work out where Megan stands in this situation, but if it | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
'can be proved she's effectively living as a tenant, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
'then John will have some serious work to do, to bring standards up to scratch. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:34 | |
'He wouldn't let the camera crew in, but eventually he agreed to me | 0:24:36 | 0:24:39 | |
'having a look.' | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
-Thanks for showing me around. -Yeah, no problem at all. Like I say, I haven't got any problem with that. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
When going up there, I didn't assume for a moment that it was | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
-anything other than Megan's home. -Uh-hm. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:50 | |
And, you know, we've got a doorway that's open there. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
You go in there and because it is separate from your home there... | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
Yes, if you look at this in an isolated incident, yes, it's very easy to think that, yeah? | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
-Yeah. -But it's not, that's why I wanted to try | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
and make it perfectly clear, it is my home. I live here. | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
This is the thing, as I'm learning this job and going through | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
and finding out bits... if there's a fire in this bit | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
and Megan's stuck there, you wouldn't be able to help her at all. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
You would be in your bit, she would be in her bit | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
and she would be stuck, without a window to get out of or... | 0:25:19 | 0:25:21 | |
But that's exactly the same, as I stated, that the law requires no opening windows. | 0:25:21 | 0:25:25 | |
-But there's the law and then there's... -I'm just saying... | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
..and you as a human being knowing there's another human being in the end of your house. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
I can't have Nanny in the granny annexe, you're telling me? | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
-I don't know... -Same scenario. -I'm looking at this scenario. I don't know about the granny annexe. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:39 | |
It's the same scenario, the same thing. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:40 | |
You can't look at every incident in its own right. We don't do. We have to abide by the rules. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
When it comes to something like fire safety, that's really fundamental, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
and you're taking money off somebody. At that point, it's not about rules | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
any more, is it? It's about knowing what's right and how to protect that | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
person in case of the worst-case scenario, you know, in case of fire. | 0:25:55 | 0:26:00 | |
Well, I don't allow them to smoke in their room. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
They've got ventilation. There's ventilation, in there, it's in the toilet. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
-How much ventilation do you have? -It's more about being able to escape if there's a fire and Megan's | 0:26:05 | 0:26:10 | |
at the top of these steps, she'd be stuffed. She'd be, you know... She'd be in trouble. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
Well, then it's clear she needs to leave. Everyone needs to leave, simple. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
The property's obviously not to your standards and, therefore, people | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
leave. And if that's what Chris decides, that's what'll happen. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
OK, John, thank you for showing me around. And thanks for talking. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
OK, no problem at all, thank you very much. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
Chris, he was claiming that Megan is a lodger and, I've got to say, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
that from everything I've learned so far about housing law, | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
-she looked like a tenant to me. What did you make of it? -Yep. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
Well, certainly we'll have to make more investigations on that matter, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
I'll be speaking to the legal team to see exactly what that situation is. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:45 | |
And it may be that there isn't any further action that we can | 0:26:45 | 0:26:47 | |
take against this person, but as I explained to him, | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
the reason for this visit, under section 239 of the Housing Act, today | 0:26:50 | 0:26:54 | |
is for us to gather more information and evidence towards the case. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:57 | |
A big part of his argument was, "Well, it's certainly better than | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
"where she was before." Um, but that doesn't really wash, does it? | 0:27:01 | 0:27:05 | |
Because you've got to have basic standards for every single bit | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
of property where you're taking rent from people and putting them up. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
Yep, I mean, I think, the thing is, you need to take | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
responsibility for your tenants and that's it. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
And if there was a fatality or something similar within that | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
property, then how would that person feel, you know? | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
He's got to be responsible for the tenants that are in there | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
and, probably, for the sake of a few hundred pounds, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
he could improve that property quite reasonably, so... | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
Yeah, yeah, he didn't quite seem to get that, really. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:33 | |
Maybe we got the message through, who knows? Thanks, Chris. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
The good news is she's now moved out, She's living with her | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
boyfriend and his mum and I'm pleased to say she's very happy. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
Young love. Fantastic. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:49 | |
The housing law that I've been getting to grips with is there | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
to make sure that everyone has the right to live in a safe home. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
And in Kent, Mark has been using it in the case of a run-down | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
rental property in Margate that's anything but. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
When I first came in this ceiling was down, the carpet was worn, | 0:28:08 | 0:28:13 | |
very likely to cause trips, very insecure. There's holes in the walls. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:17 | |
This building is in an area of town where there's a high concentration | 0:28:17 | 0:28:21 | |
of rental housing. | 0:28:21 | 0:28:23 | |
Because of this, the council operates a selective | 0:28:23 | 0:28:25 | |
licensing scheme, to try and pull up standards. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
But over the last nine months, the four flats have fallen | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
into such disrepair and the tenants are fed up. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
He kept saying, "I'll do something", but I've not had anything done, | 0:28:35 | 0:28:41 | |
I'm waiting for a new carpet, that's been about four years! | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
Just three weeks' later, | 0:28:47 | 0:28:48 | |
Mark is going back to the flats, to make sure that work is under way. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:52 | |
He's inspecting the building flat-by-flat and the first happy | 0:28:52 | 0:28:56 | |
tenant Kelly, can't wait to show off the improvements to her home. | 0:28:56 | 0:28:59 | |
Come in. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:00 | |
-So... -It's all being decorated at the moment, so...! | 0:29:00 | 0:29:04 | |
-It's looking a lot better, isn't it? -Yes, very much better. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
There's no more water coming through? | 0:29:07 | 0:29:09 | |
No more water coming through, at the moment, touch wood, because we've had no weather at the moment. | 0:29:09 | 0:29:15 | |
-Yeah, I'm pleased with that. -Yes, very good. -Thank you. -Good luck, thank you. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:18 | |
SHE CHUCKLES | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
But Mark knows there's one tenant whose problems run a lot deeper | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
than a lick of paint. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:24 | |
Hello Mr Whitworth, Mark Goldhawk. | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
Mark Whitworth has to clean up this place before any work can be done. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
-It's a lot cleaner than the last time you were here. -I think it is, actually. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
-I started cleaning the cooker, but ran out of cleaning stuff. -Yeah. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:41 | |
I can see that he's made an attempt, but, unfortunately, if you are | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
depressed, I suppose, and it sounds like he is very, very despondent, | 0:29:44 | 0:29:48 | |
then the last thing he's thinking about is doing the cleaning. | 0:29:48 | 0:29:52 | |
I'm not here to be his social worker, | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
I'm here to deal with the conditions in the property. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
Hopefully, in a couple of weeks' time, it'll be a lot better. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
At least a plan is in place that will allow Mark's flat to be sorted out. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:05 | |
He's going to be temporarily rehoused once work begins. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
-Once they've finished flat three, I'm moving up to flat three. -You're moving up to flat three? | 0:30:08 | 0:30:13 | |
While they're doing my place, because mine is the biggest problem. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:17 | |
There's light at the end of the tunnel now, they've started the work, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:22 | |
so just try and keep your chin up and, hopefully, in the next... | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
-Hopefully, yeah. -..two to three weeks your living conditions will be significantly better. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:31 | |
Hopefully, yeah. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
Things are moving, but I am discovering that Mark, like all | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
housing officers, can't sort out everybody's problems all at once. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:40 | |
With a vulnerable tenant like Mr Whitworth, it is very much | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
a work in progress. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
I am working with other agencies to support Mr Whitworth. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
I mean, there | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
are other professionals that will go in there and help him. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
But, I think, this is one that I'll be keeping an eye on. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:55 | |
At housing HQ, in St Helens, Merseyside, Glynn Griffiths | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
has discovered a real dump. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
Councils have little sympathy for fly-tippers, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
and if you're caught persistently dumping, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
you can land yourself with a £2,500 fine. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:19 | |
But there are some real wasters out there, whose rubbish doesn't | 0:31:19 | 0:31:23 | |
even make it to the street and it's a real problem | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
for their neighbours. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
When this happens, it becomes a matter for the housing enforcers. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:33 | |
Glynn's one, so he is going to pop off and have look in his car, | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
but what I am wondering is, how often do they pick up the bins here? | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
There's a fortnightly bin collection for domestic waste that's | 0:31:40 | 0:31:44 | |
provided by the council, so there's no excuse for it that I know of. | 0:31:44 | 0:31:49 | |
Glynn's found three filthy backyards that need to transform pronto. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:55 | |
Can you empty the bins for me, please? So they've got a clean start. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
Tenants are given three weeks to get rid of the rubbish themselves, | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
but if they take no notice, the council cavalry are called in. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:07 | |
-Bringing with them the men in white suits. -Contractors invoice us, | 0:32:07 | 0:32:10 | |
which we then charge back to the occupier of the property. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
Now, around here, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
neighbours have become sick of the stench from this garden. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
There's an open sewer there, We'll write to the owner | 0:32:18 | 0:32:21 | |
of the property and give him 14 days to get that put right. | 0:32:21 | 0:32:25 | |
But the drain issue is just the tip of this tip(!) Hm(!) | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
Lucky, it's raining, so there's not too much of an odour, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:32 | |
but you can imagine, on a hot sunny day, it's going to be pretty nasty | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
and if you're living next door to it with your kitchen window open, | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
there's going to be a fly problem and it's just going to be pretty stinky. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
Glynn knows bins and he feels that each one tells its own story. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:49 | |
Someone's getting married. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
It's a filthy job, but someone's got to do it, that's what they say. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:54 | |
All 19 barrowloads. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
Doesn't really bother me, the smell any more. | 0:32:57 | 0:32:59 | |
When you first start it bothers you, then you just become immune to it. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:03 | |
I wouldn't, but that's just the start of it... | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
This is the second property I've got a warrant for. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
I have spoken with the occupier. She's made some effort | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
to clear it, but there's still quite a significant amount left in there. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:16 | |
And the funny thing is, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
it's bin day today. | 0:33:19 | 0:33:20 | |
It's about £100 to clear away that | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
quantity, but the crazy thing is, the bin men are out on site now. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:29 | |
If the bin was made available, the binmen would take it away for nothing. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:33 | |
So, put your bin out or get a fine from the council. | 0:33:33 | 0:33:37 | |
They're chucking money away, much to the dismay of the street's | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
more house-proud inhabitants. They've had it up to here. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:44 | |
There's no need for it. They clean it every two weeks | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
and then someone else puts a load of rubbish back out again. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
I mean, that's clothes. You could take them to the charity shop. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
I feel very sorry for the council, people coming out doing that. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:58 | |
Yeah, well, do you know what? The worst is still to come, | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
because Glyn, it appears, has drawn the short straw. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
There's dog faeces, there's nappies, there's food waste. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:12 | |
Under the shed is the perfect spot for vermin. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
There is some clear signs, there's some shredded-up rubbish, | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
gnawing, so you can see that there have been rats in there. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
It's a rat B&B, everything's there that they need, food, water, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
shelter, everything's en-suite. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
If only it was just rats who lived here. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:42 | |
There's a family in this house with young children. | 0:34:42 | 0:34:44 | |
It's not a healthy environment. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:48 | |
My dog's got a better life than what's going on here. | 0:34:48 | 0:34:52 | |
It's just... It's heart breaking. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
As far as I can I detach myself, my home life, from what I see at work. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:02 | |
I look at how my kids, and how my step kids have been brought up and... | 0:35:02 | 0:35:06 | |
..I don't think, sometimes, they realise how good they've got it. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:12 | |
There's kids out there that are living in squalor, | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
living in filth and no matter how much money you throw at it, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
it's not going to be put right. You can educate and educate | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
and educate but, you know, it's... | 0:35:20 | 0:35:23 | |
I shudder to think what it's like inside. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:26 | |
At least the backyard is now finally beginning to resemble | 0:35:26 | 0:35:30 | |
a garden again. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
The work they've done today, | 0:35:32 | 0:35:33 | |
given the fact it's all been strewn around the garden, it's been quite | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
a labour-intensive clear-up, it's going to be at least | 0:35:36 | 0:35:40 | |
£200 maybe £300. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:41 | |
As we've said for all the jobs today - put your bin out, | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
on bin days. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
You'll save money and get along much better with your neighbours. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:54 | |
Back in Harwich, in Essex, we're visiting a property | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
that's become a real worry for the housing team. | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
Not to mention, anyone nearby. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
You've got houses on either side of this, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
that rely on this being here and being structurally sound. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
Sound. Exactly. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
Teresa Kemp got more than she bargained for | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
when she moved into the house next door. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
It's caused the party wall, the wall between their property | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
and my property to have damp problems. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
When housing officers Grant and Rob visited to assess the damage, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
Teresa had just about had enough. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
It actually brings tears to my eyes when I think about it, | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
-because this was supposed to be my last move. -Yeah. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
We've got a good idea of what's going on now. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
Don't worry too much, we've got a variety of different options | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
-we're looking at. -OK. | 0:36:49 | 0:36:51 | |
It is very upsetting. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
Having established that the house is putting the adjoining | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
buildings at risk, Grant and Rob | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
must find a solution, to stop the rot from spreading. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
It's coming through from two floors above. | 0:37:03 | 0:37:05 | |
-You can see that. -So, there's worse than this? -Yes. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
'One option would be for the council | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
'to carry out the works in default, forcing the owner to pay | 0:37:10 | 0:37:14 | |
'once the house has been repaired. And it's a big job.' | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
This has just got to be completely gutted, hasn't it? | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
Oh, it's a major refurb, top to bottom. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
'But before they can make a decision it's our job to calculate | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
'the full extent of the damage.' | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
I feel I need to see all of this. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
This particular area really shows the full extent of the problem that we've got. | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
I don't know if you notice the floors are sheeted, the bed's sheeted. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:44 | |
Is that the occupant who's done that? | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
To prevent water from going in to the downstairs. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:48 | |
-So, the roof's completely gone, then? -Yeah. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:50 | |
So, you've got water coming down and the only way they could do anything about it is by putting... | 0:37:50 | 0:37:54 | |
-If you look to the... -There's a dustbin full of water. -Dustbin... | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
-refuse bin, full of water. -No sleep was taking place in here. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:00 | |
None at all, no. No-one's been in here for many, many years. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
That's almost frozen in time, that bed, isn't it? | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
1990. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:09 | |
You can see again... | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
Obviously, we've got a real problem with the roof here. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
You can see the mould growth on the floor, here, look. Fungus. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:19 | |
-Fully-fledged...? -Fungus. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:21 | |
Tree-stump fungus. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:23 | |
Look here, you've got the wallpaper, and the plaster has come in sheets. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:29 | |
-It's actually come straight off. -It's come off in sheet, yeah. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
Let's look at the rest of the first floor. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
'The more we explore, the more it clear to all of us | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
'just how much work needs to be done.' | 0:38:39 | 0:38:41 | |
I don't know how we're even going to get in because, I think, the floor's | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
-so badly shot. -Oh, God. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
-It's... it's just devastation in here. -Absolutely. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
The ceiling's gone completely and underneath it, is just a single | 0:38:52 | 0:38:57 | |
bed and just piles of newspapers. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
It looks like a warzone. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
Oh, my God, so you've got water coming in from the roof. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
You've got damp. I take it that's what that is? | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
-That's rising damp, yeah. -And rising damp from the ground which has | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
-made it all the way to the ceiling. -Can I just take you out here? | 0:39:14 | 0:39:17 | |
Is there more? Oh, man! | 0:39:17 | 0:39:19 | |
-It's the bathroom. -Yeah. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
I mean, it's just room after room of devastation, | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
every room you go in. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
'Our inspection has put the estimated cost of just making the | 0:39:30 | 0:39:33 | |
'property safe for the neighbours at well over £40,000.' | 0:39:33 | 0:39:38 | |
If it was a detached house, you'd almost say, "Knock it down | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
and start again." But because it's in between two you've got to do | 0:39:41 | 0:39:45 | |
-something, haven't you? -We've got major, major issue. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
'With the cost of repair so high, | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
'a works-in-default order could leave the council left to foot the bill. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:54 | |
'Grant and Rob must find an alternative solution.' | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
So, what's the next step here, then? | 0:39:59 | 0:40:02 | |
The next step is, it may be that we have to look | 0:40:02 | 0:40:04 | |
at a compulsory purchase order to buy it ourselves and then deal with it. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:08 | |
We're looking at the roof structure. Get it watertight, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:11 | |
sort the party wall agreements out and then deal with the rising damp. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:15 | |
-A watertight shell... -Yeah. -..that's not going to effect the other properties. | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
Remove the nuisance. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
The only other option would be to find a private developer | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
who would buy the house, but either way, it seems extreme measures | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
are going to be needed, to save this building and to help the neighbours. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
I thought you were over-egging it, by giving me | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
-personal-protection equipment, but you weren't, were you? -Not at all. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
Is that a one-off. Do you come across, have you come across, other places like that? | 0:40:38 | 0:40:42 | |
Regularly. It's a regular occurrence now. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
'The housing officers that I'm working with are desperately | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
'trying to get the best result for EVERYBODY involved. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
'Um, but trying to do that requires a great | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
'deal of skill on their part and a huge amount | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
'of human understanding.' | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
So, bravo, I'm not worthy... yet. | 0:40:59 | 0:41:02 | |
'Someone else who thought my skills weren't really up to scratch | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
'was Megan's landlord John Price. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
'Without me, though, obviously, the legal team have come to a decision.' | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
It turns out that Chris, and I, were absolutely right. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:22 | |
Megan was never a lodger, | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
she couldn't access her landlord's home and the facilities in there | 0:41:24 | 0:41:28 | |
without going downstairs from her bedsit and going outside. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
As a result, she was never a lodger, she was a tenant, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:37 | |
and should have received all the rights that go with that name. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
Landlord John Price is appealing that decision. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
That's it for today's show. Join me next time, on the front line, | 0:41:47 | 0:41:51 | |
with Britain's housing officers. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 |