Episode 15 The Housing Enforcers


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-Hello? Can you just let me in?

-BARKING

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The law says everyone has the right to a safe place to live...

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I wouldn't keep my dog there, is the honest truth.

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But for thousands of people across the UK,

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the reality can be more hovel than home.

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The house is falling to bits, there's nothing I can do.

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In the battle for decent housing...

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We've got conditions that are just appalling.

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I don't know how the people are coping, to be quite honest.

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..it's local housing officers who are on the front line.

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If somebody had died here, you would've been

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standing in Coroner's Court.

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I'm Matt Allwright and I'm back with the Housing Enforcers.

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-15 people in this house?

-15 people total living in here.

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I'll be with them as they tackle problem properties

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and slum conditions...

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It really does look a shanty town.

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Yeah, it's not up to standard.

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..as they deal with dodgy landlords, nightmare neighbours

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and everything in between...

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Oh, my God, straight away there's the smell of dog muck.

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You never know what you're going to find.

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..doing their best to help those in need of a happy and healthy home.

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Today, we find evidence that a property in Newham may have been

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unlawfully converted into a shared house.

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I don't think there's any way this is an acceptable space,

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it's just... You can't have a life here.

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In Suffolk, a visit from the council

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leaves residents with some tidying up to do.

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But what I suggest we do, give that a bit of a clean down the units

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so when they come in...

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When they inspect it, it won't be so...you know?

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-Because I suppose...

-I know what you mean.

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-A bit sticky, I guess.

-Yeah.

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And an oversized extension looks like it may be breaking the rules.

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"Purpose of outbuilding - storage and gymnasium."

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Yeah.

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It's very large for a storage and gymnasium.

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And would you have windows like that in it?

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No.

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Every year, more of us rent the homes that we live in,

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and every year, rents go up.

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For those of us chasing cheaper housing, that can mean

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enduring living conditions so bad that they break the law.

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I'm working alongside the men and women

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whose job it is to uphold those laws.

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They are the Housing Enforcers.

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Here in Newham and I'm on the road with housing officers

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Stephen Pavett and Holly Ripp.

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We're off to visit a property that's been on their radar for a while now.

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It's supposed to be a family home,

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but was instead being used unlawfully as a series of bedsits

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until the council told the landlord to change it back.

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So what's the place we're going to? What's going on?

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OK, so this property has an enforcement notice on it which

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stated that the use should cease, the locks should come off,

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all the usual bits and pieces.

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It was actually complied with, the enforcement notice,

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at the beginning of the year.

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But we've had information through that it's back in breach again.

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Right.

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So it looked like the enforcement notice worked once

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but there are concerns the landlord has now

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turned the property back again

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and filled it with more people than is safe.

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There are a couple of clues already.

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Oh, it's got bins full of rubbish,

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it's got some kind of weird silver paper up

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at the front window as well.

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Tinfoil at the front windows, what does that say?

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One of them could be that it's

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a shared heating bill... KNOCKING

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..so you're trying to keep your own room as warm as possible.

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Here we go.

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Good morning, we're from the planning department of the council,

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we're here to have another look around the property, OK?

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The dark corridor certainly doesn't have a feel of a family home.

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We've got another two doors here.

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-Do we want to have a knock on this?

-Yeah, definitely.

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-Can we just have a look in your room, please?

-MAN:

-Yes.

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Thank you.

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It looks like a pretty small room for two people to share.

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Milan is one of them,

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and he's travelled a long way to find himself cooped up here.

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Where are you from?

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-I'm from Bulgaria.

-From Bulgaria.

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How many people are in this house?

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I think 14.

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14 people. How much do you pay in rent for this?

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£300 per month.

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£300 for a month, and you share this

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with another guy who's not always here.

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Are there any other problems here? Do you see mice or rats or anything?

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Mice, yes.

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You see mice?

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Every day in kitchen.

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Right.

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Sometimes no electricity.

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Go to agency maybe two or three times. Every week, you know.

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-So you have no electricity?

-Yeah, for two-three hours.

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Do you pay the agency, do you give them money for electricity?

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Yeah, yeah.

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But they need to put it on a key, put it in the machine,

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and then it starts working again,

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but you've got two or three hours with no power.

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'Sharing a house with 13 other people,

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'especially when the electricity runs out, can't be much fun.'

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We're going to look round the rest of the house.

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Nice to meet you. Good, good, yeah.

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Stephen has found a clue where all that electricity might be going.

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-We've got a large bank of fridge-freezers...

-Yeah.

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We've seen this before.

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But this is an impressive wall of refrigeration - I'm just

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imagining the draw on the electrics in this household.

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-It's no surprise the electricity keeps going off.

-No.

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Because it sounds like the agent has to keep filling the key up.

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I suppose he's just using his name as the agent

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and he is paying the bill,

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and it hides the fact that potentially

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you've got other people trying to pay a bill.

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-Something you would spot quite easily.

-Yeah.

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Apparently hoping to present this as a family home, the landlord

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is leaving these 14 people without electricity

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at certain times of the day.

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A big problem, especially with all those fridge-freezers on the go.

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Later on, I discover an even larger issue in an even smaller space.

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I don't think there's any way that this is an acceptable space.

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It's just... You can't have a life here.

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There's huge pressure on housing in Oxford, which can lead to some

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unlawful methods of cramming more people into a property than is safe.

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And that is where today housing officer Will Christian comes in.

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We're going to south Oxford to see a potentially unlawful building

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at the rear of the property.

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It might be in residential use.

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Landlords build these "beds in sheds", as we call them,

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in the back of properties so they can maximise their income.

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Will's joined by colleague Rebecca Jeffries to investigate

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a complaint about a building that's sprung up in a garden next door

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to Beryl and Doug.

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They've lived here happily for the past 53 years.

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Until this happened.

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I thought it was going to be quite small.

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It's the whole of the back garden built on.

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And we get flooding, as you know, in this area, and the more

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concrete they put down, the more likely we are to get floods.

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The building is huge.

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And although their neighbours appear to have planning permission,

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it's not so much a bed in a shed as potentially a whole dormitory.

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It's clearly having a big impact on Beryl and Doug's lives.

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All the more distressing as Doug suffers from Parkinson's disease.

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I think it's a disgrace.

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It overlooks my property

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and my privacy's gone.

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I'd like to see it knocked down

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and going back to what it was before - a garden.

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-REBECCA:

-It's like a bungalow, isn't it?

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It is a bungalow, really, to look at.

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I mean, it's been a big worry what's been going on next door, obviously.

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But it is impacting on you, so you're well within your rights...

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Planning permission or not, I can't believe the council would

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have approved of what looks like another whole house in a garden.

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And a quick look through the plans is quite revealing.

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"Purpose of outbuilding - storage and gymnasium..." Yeah.

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It's very large for a storage and gymnasium.

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-And would you have windows like that in it?

-No.

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He has two windows and a door in the middle.

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This is me here, one little window,

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and one bigger window,

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blank wall, blank wall.

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-Yeah, OK.

-Well, that's not right for a start,

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because you can see two doors

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and a patio door that go right down to the floor this side.

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With confusion over just what this building should be,

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Will and Rebecca decide the best course of action now is to confront

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the neighbours to see if they can intervene in what is clearly

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a very distressing situation for Beryl and Doug.

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It's the privacy we've lost and such a big building in the back garden.

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The stress that it's causing me is going over to Doug a little bit

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because when I have my little moans, obviously it affects him

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in some ways.

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And you know, "Oh, don't worry,"

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but you do - you do worry.

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But Will and Rebecca aren't having much luck next door.

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After a little impromptu investigation,

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it's starting to become clear the building might be designed

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for a lot more than storage and lifting weights.

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And there's a further clue that this building is going to house

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more than treadmills.

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It's a gate into this...

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Is it new? It looks pretty new.

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That looks brand-new, doesn't it?

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There's a locked entrance into where the building is being built,

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which leads me to believe it's going to be used as a residential purpose.

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Will and Rebecca's findings tally with Beryl's worries.

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I wasn't too concerned in the very beginning,

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but then I saw the size of the footing

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and I could see that it was marked

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out like a bathroom,

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a kitchen area,

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a living room area and a bedroom.

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Looking at the windows and the front door,

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it's just like a home would be.

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Although Will and Rebecca failed to get any answers

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from the neighbours, the evidence is starting to speak for itself.

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I've established that there's plumbing

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and sewerage pipes been put in so it leads me

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more to believe that it's going to be used as residential purposes.

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You don't need that in a gym, do you?

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Are there a few people living there?

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The daughter and her boyfriend are staying in the front of the house,

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nobody in there, but I'm told if they start to put kitchen furniture

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or anything like that then I know they're going to make it habitable.

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Later on, Beryl decides enough is enough.

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I think it's got to be stopped and pulled down.

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I'm in Newham, and with housing officers Stephen

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and Holly investigating a property that, despite warnings

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from the council, has been

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turned into a bunch of bedsits for at least 14 people.

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Sometimes no electricity.

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So you have no electricity?

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Yeah, for two-three hours.

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Overcrowding a property like this doesn't just impact

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on the people living here, it also affects the local neighbourhood,

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putting greater demands and strains on local services.

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But despite the cramped conditions,

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it seems everyone here is at least trying their best.

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It looks like a house full of young guys

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in their 20s who are all doing...

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All trying to work, and the place, actually considering...

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I remember my student days - the place is really kept very well,

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they've all taken a lot of pride in the way their rooms are and they're

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doing the best they can in a house that just feels way over-stuffed.

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According to planning permission, this property should be

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a family home, not filled to the gills with separate tenants.

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But having met Milan and some of his housemates, it makes me worried

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about what might happen next.

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The chap that I was talking to in the kitchen is really worried

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that the result of this visit will be him without a place to live.

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That is probably going to be the situation.

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When you come around these houses and you look at this

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and it's a house that's being well kept by the tenants,

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they're all working guys, it's got emergency lighting,

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it's got some fire detection as well,

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it's easy to look at it and think,

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actually, if we let this one go, who's hurt here?

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Um... The facilities are not adequate enough

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to support 14, 16, 18 people

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who are living here and that's got an impact on the neighbourhood

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and overstressing the services that are locally around.

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So we've got to protect local people as well as people

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living here and the council's got to be consistent with its approach

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to all of the properties we look at. In six months' time,

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this could be a completely different picture,

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you could have more people in the property,

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the conditions of the property could be deteriorating greatly,

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and then the council has decided to let it go previously.

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And to prove Stephen's point,

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the next room demonstrates what can happen to tenants

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if unlawful behaviour from a landlord is left unchecked.

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Come in, have a look... I can't quite touch...

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So I reckon that's 6.5ft that way, and then...

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it's going to be... Yeah, it's about 6.5ft square, this room.

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And everything has to fit into this space, he's got a wardrobe stuffed

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with his clothes.

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He's got a chair right next to his bed,

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and he's got a chest of drawers and that's literally it.

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It's so small, it's so small.

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It's unbelievable -

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I'm trying to imagine living in here, I mean...

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I don't think there's any way that this is an acceptable space,

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even for just one person by themselves to live in.

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It's just... You can't have a life here.

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The size of that room is totally unacceptable.

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Exactly, and he's paying £390 to stay in here, a month.

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It's clearly unacceptable trying to cram that many people

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into a property.

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Seeing Milan and hearing about his dream

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and knowing he might now be facing homelessness

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puts another human face to the UK's housing crisis.

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Milan, really nice to meet you - and good luck with everything.

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As we said, the temptation is to go "Well, it seems to be working,

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"maybe we should leave it."

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But that's just not really an option, is it, Stephen?

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No, it's not an option, unfortunately.

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They've got to do something with that property now.

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After this, we'll have to write to the owner

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and basically say, you've had your chance.

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The really sad thing is,

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they're keeping their end of the bargain. You know,

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they're doing the best they can, they're exemplary tenants in many

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ways, to walk into that place and seeing it the way it is.

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And they're going to be let down by a landlord

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who's trying to make the most out of that place,

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despite the fact he's already had one slap on the wrist.

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He's going to get a rather nasty letter from us,

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saying that he's probably going to be prosecuted now.

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We've got nothing against the tenants at all in the property,

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our action is not against them, it is purely against

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the homeowner who has decided to put the property back into this use.

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Holls, you've got to feel for those guys in there, you know,

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seeing them leading their lives the best way they possibly can,

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and an eviction could be just around the corner, really.

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I mean, they do have rights but it is unfair

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and I do feel for the tenants when we go to these places.

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I mean, they don't know

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that the property shouldn't be used in that way.

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It's difficult to know, isn't it?

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Exactly, yeah, they could end up in the exact same position

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and keep being moved around, and it's not fair on them.

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The council's legal department are deciding what course of action

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to take against the landlord.

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They also passed the information about the faulty electrics

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to the relevant teams, and those concerns are being investigated.

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Defending our right to a safe place to live

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is the job of housing officers right across the UK.

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This is not really an acceptable way of leaving

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-the property behind.

-Do you think?!

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I'm working alongside the men and women that do exactly that.

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-Top marks.

-Yes!

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I'm hitting the streets...

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Hello, can you open up?

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There's definitely someone inside, because we've seen movement.

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..finding out what's happening on the front line...

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The cistern's in the bath. I don't know how they flush it.

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..and learning what it takes to make sure

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a house is fit to be called a home.

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I'm very shocked. This is ridiculous.

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You shouldn't have people living in here.

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Back in Oxford and Will Christian is back on the case of a home gym

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that's bulked out into a back garden bungalow.

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It's the whole of the back garden built on.

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This colossal eyesore was not just blotting out the landscape,

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it was making neighbours Beryl and Doug's lives a misery.

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It overlooks my property

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and my privacy has gone.

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Will was convinced the owners of the property

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were breaching their planning permission by creating

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living accommodation in their garden rather than storage and a gym.

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And the council clearly agree,

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as they've now served an enforcement notice on the building.

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I hope that the outbuilding will be completely removed

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and then the garden will be put back to its former self.

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Will's back to talk to Beryl but it appears things have moved on

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at a faster pace than even he was expecting.

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He's removed all the windows and the roof, I don't know why.

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It seems that once the enforcement notice was served,

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the neighbour was keen to try and compromise in an attempt

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to keep his building, and, one presumes, his investment, intact.

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He said, "I'm going to take the roof down another foot,

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"maybe more, and trellis along the top if you need it."

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Well, that's not going to wash with Beryl.

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It's a residential area,

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lovely gardens all around and to have this big blob

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built in the garden, I think it's got to be stopped and pulled down.

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And it's a sentiment clearly shared by Will.

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It's a bigger footprint than the actual building, which is bizarre.

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It looks to me like it would have been used

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definitely for accommodation.

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The council have served the notice on the outbuilding,

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to remove the outbuilding and restore the ground

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-to its former self.

-Yes.

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He's appealed against it.

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I don't know whether he's going to bring it down or...

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Well, hoping to remove it.

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-That's what the condition says.

-Yes.

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Although the planning rules are in place

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to protect neighbours like Beryl,

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they also exist to avoid wider issues such as parking problems

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and pressure on local services for the rest of the community.

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That also includes protecting local green space.

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The whole place is just so big,

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it's just taking up the whole garden.

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That's right.

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A tiny little yard for the main dwelling

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and no garden for this building.

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You can't build something like that in your garden.

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After months of stress, Beryl and her husband Doug are just

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happy that someone's listened to their side of the story.

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I'm happy that the council's got involved

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and have asked for it to be returned to its normal state.

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And I hope that this happens.

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He's been given time to do it and I hope he will do it.

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Yes, I'll be quite happy to see it on its way down

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but I understand he's appealed against the decision

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it has to be put back to a garden again.

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In light of their neighbour's appeal,

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Beryl and Doug will have to wait a bit longer to find out

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the final fate of this back-garden bungalow.

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Since the property was inspected,

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the landlord has appealed the notice served by the council,

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and the case is now being passed up the chain

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to the planning inspectorate,

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who deal with planning appeals of this nature.

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At this time, no further progress has been made,

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and the case could take up to six months to be resolved.

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Every day, housing officers have to tread a fine line

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between giving tenants help with their homes when they need it

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and getting them to take responsibility for themselves.

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In Suffolk, housing officer Andrew Weavers is on his way

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to a council-owned bungalow

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where a routine survey has set off alarm bells

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about the way tenants are looking after their home.

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We've had a property that's been identified as being cluttered

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and dirty through an inspection that one of our contractors did.

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So I'm just going to go and check that out and find out why.

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Andrew's worried the condition of the bungalow could be a sign

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the occupants are struggling to cope.

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But it isn't just the welfare of the tenants he has to think about.

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You know, if people are not reporting repairs

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or the property's getting dirty for whatever reason,

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you end up with a rather large bill to put it right.

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Tenant Lesley Offord moved into the property 15 years ago

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with her late husband.

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Despite his poor health, they shared many happy years there.

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Peter died in 2008.

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He had MS and couldn't get out of bed and then he got leukaemia.

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About six weeks after he'd been diagnosed with the leukaemia,

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he passed away.

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Two years ago, with her own health deteriorating,

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Lesley's son Michael moved in, becoming her full-time carer.

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Michael could see that I was having more and more problems walking

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and getting around.

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I've had three or four falls in the bungalow

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where they've had to take me to hospital

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and I've had a broken hip,

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broken ribs, collapsed lungs.

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I don't know what I'd do without Michael, quite frankly.

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But with concerns being raised that they might not be coping,

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it's Andrew's job to find out if there's a problem

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and what the council can do to help.

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Hello. It's Mrs Offord I'm looking for... Mr Offord?

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Oh - Lesley Offord, my mother.

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-Yeah.

-I'm Andrew. I'm from Mid Suffolk District Council.

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Do you mind just having a very quick chat just

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so I can get a few concerns out of the way?

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We've had the property inspected, what they call a whole house survey,

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but they're a bit troubled by the condition of the property.

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They say it isn't in its best condition.

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-Erm...

-Would you say that's the case?

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It's not the tidiest at the moment.

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Telling someone they've been reported for having a dirty,

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untidy house is never going to be easy.

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Obviously, we've had a survey,

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and they were a bit concerned that this property was a bit cluttered

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and wasn't the cleanest but, to be fair,

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I've got to say it's not bad at all, in my book,

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and I've seen a lot of cluttered properties in my time!

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-Yeah.

-So I don't want to worry you at all

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but I just want to have a quick look myself

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to make sure you're all right.

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So far, it's proving hard to see exactly why the contractor

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was so concerned about the condition of this place.

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And even when Andrew does spot a problem,

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it isn't just down to Lesley and Michael's housekeeping.

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OK, the kitchen's seen better days.

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It looks like more or less you need a new kitchen, really.

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-That wouldn't do any harm because...

-No.

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..we've got a serious problem with storing stuff.

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I don't know how old this kitchen is.

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-No idea, but it's original since me mum's been here.

-Yeah.

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I might ask them whether they would consider looking at this

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-and inspecting this.

-Yeah.

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But what I suggest we do, give that a bit of a clean down the units

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so when they inspect it, it won't be so...you know?

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-Because I suppose...

-I know what you mean.

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-Yeah. A bit sticky, I guess...

-Yeah.

-..aren't they?

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-Some of this is difficult because it's old stuff...

-All old stuff.

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But I'm quite happy to send someone round

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and see if you are entitled to a new kitchen, then if you are, brilliant.

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The kitchen isn't going to win any awards for cleanliness

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and it could well be the reason for the bad inspection report,

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but Andrew's more concerned it isn't fit for purpose.

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-The garden's out here.

-Just a have quick look.

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Is that...? Oh, I see, that's not so bad, is it?

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I can see from here.

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First impressions outside are also good,

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but aware Lesley's seriously injured herself falling over

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at home before, Andrew's spotted something that won't help.

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Yeah, because this is a bit of a trip hazard, here.

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That's the main problem for my mother, yeah.

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And that's the other little step

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-she's worried about.

-Yeah, here, yeah.

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It wouldn't take much to do something there.

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-That's an easy one but that one there...

-Yeah.

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I'm sure they'll come up with something.

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But even I would trip over that if I was not looking out.

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Making sure Lesley can access the garden safely

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is a job for the council, but as the tenant,

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she has to take responsibility for keeping it tidy herself.

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Obviously you've got some white goods there.

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If they can make their way to the dump...

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You know, you've got a few bits and pieces

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but that's got to go, hasn't it, really?

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Yeah, that's all waiting for...

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Got to get my sister to get her people carrier to get that sorted.

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Yeah. But it's got potential here,

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you can have a nice little seated area.

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Everything's gone much better than Andrew anticipated.

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But coming into someone's home and putting their life under the

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microscope is an uncomfortable job that needs to be handled tactfully.

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Right. OK, well...

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it's not, it's not what I thought it was going to be

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but you do understand that

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when they flag something up, I've got to go and investigate it.

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Although the visit's put to rest any fears the property isn't

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being looked after,

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it also made it clear that with a little adaptation,

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it would be much easier for Lesley to live in.

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Luckily, Andrew is on hand to help.

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-Obviously you're having falls and things, aren't you?

-Yes.

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I don't know if it's worth getting

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an occupational therapist to come out.

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What they tend to do is, they do an evaluation and then

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if there's anything like handrails

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or they might have ideas on the type of kitchen you might need

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that suits you.

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So I'll get someone who knows a bit more about disabled adaptations -

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that's what they're called - to give you a call.

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-Lovely job. OK?

-We pass the test, do we?

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Yes.

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Because I don't want to get evicted.

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No, I wouldn't dream of evicting you, would I?

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Do I look like a man who's going to evict you?

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We've got our different levels of cleanliness, haven't we,

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and different standards?

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I've been in cleaner but it wasn't as bad as I thought

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it was going to be and they're very nice people and when you get

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someone like that, you'd rather try and help them if you can.

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If can encourage her son to tidy up the garden

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and have a little bit of a clean-up, then job's a good 'un.

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That's it for today - join me

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next time back on the road with the Housing Enforcers.

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