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Hello, can you just let me in? | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
The law says everyone has the right to a safe place to live. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
I wouldn't keep my dog there, is the honest truth. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
But for thousands of people across the UK, | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
the reality can be more hovel than home. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:15 | |
The house is falling to bits. There's nothing I can do. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
In the battle for decent housing... | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
We've just got conditions that are just appalling. | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
I don't know how the people are coping, to be quite honest. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
..it's local housing officers who are on the front line. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
If somebody had died here, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:29 | |
you would've been standing in Coroner's Court. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
I'm Matt Allwright and I'm back with the housing enforcers. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
15 people in this house? | 0:00:37 | 0:00:38 | |
15 people total living in here. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
I'll be with them as they tackle problem properties | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
and slum conditions... | 0:00:43 | 0:00:45 | |
It really does look shanty town. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:47 | |
Yeah, it's not up to standard. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
..as they deal with dodgy landlords, nightmare neighbours | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
and everything in-between... | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
Oh, my God. Straight away there's the smell of dog muck. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
You never know what you're going to find. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:58 | |
..doing their best to help those in need of a happy | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
and healthy home. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:02 | |
Oh, my God, Ted! | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
Today, a tiny leak turns into an epic flood... | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
I've got them in my shoes! I had no idea it was this bad. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
Yeah, I know, mate. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
Ted, you should've told us about it as soon as you got the leak. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
..a dispute over planning regulations puts lives in danger... | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
At the moment, there are offences under the Housing Act in this property. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
The spiral staircase should never have been put in in the first place. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
No, that's entirely untrue, I'm afraid. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
We had regular inspections when I put all this in. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:36 | |
When was the last time you heard anyone | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
use the phrase "slum landlord"? | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
Not that recently, right? | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
Well, that's because we live in a country with laws that make sure | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
housing meets basic standards. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:53 | |
And it's not just landlords - | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
there are laws that mean that tenants need to behave too. | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
I'm working alongside the men and women from councils | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
across the UK who enforce those laws. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
They are the Housing Enforcers. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
There are times in life when we all need a helping hand. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
But one of the hardest things facing the UK's housing officers | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
is striking a balance between giving tenants help and getting them | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
to take responsibility for themselves | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
before things get out of hand. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:28 | |
It's a dilemma Babergh Council's Ian Watson deals with every day. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
How do you do this, though? | 0:02:34 | 0:02:36 | |
Are you trying to just stick to the book and do your job, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
or do you have to relate to people and try and understand | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
their situation? | 0:02:43 | 0:02:44 | |
You've got to be able to listen, you know, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
and that's one of the most important things, listening. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
It's just trying to get, you know, to the root cause of the problem | 0:02:49 | 0:02:53 | |
and it's sometimes just getting those people to realise that | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
you're actually there to help them rather than hinder them. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
Some people need more help than others. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:03 | |
Ian's had a call from Sudbury about water coming from | 0:03:03 | 0:03:06 | |
the ground-floor flat of a tenant he's known for a long time. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
I'm a little bit concerned because the gentleman did leave | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
one of our other properties in rather a mess. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
I did get the tenant ring me back | 0:03:17 | 0:03:19 | |
and say he was trying to sort it out himself, but obviously | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
we need to get in there. It's our responsibility to do repairs. | 0:03:22 | 0:03:26 | |
Tenant Ted Hurrell moved into the flat two years ago | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
after caring for his elderly mother and battling addiction. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
I nursed her with Alzheimer's... | 0:03:34 | 0:03:36 | |
..and also trying to detox from... | 0:03:38 | 0:03:41 | |
..a 30-year heroin habit. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
It isn't the first time he's come to the attention | 0:03:47 | 0:03:49 | |
of ex-copper Ian. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:50 | |
-I never nicked you. -No, I don't think so. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
I've never known anything that you done wrong, to be quite honest. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
Well, I was a smackhead for... | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
Yeah, I know you were heavy into drugs, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
but at least you sorted yourself out, didn't you? | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
All right. Well, look, we've managed to get... | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
Let's go and have a look, shall we? | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
Ian's barely over the threshold and he can already see | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
that the situation is serious. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
Oh, my God, Ted. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:18 | |
That's happened overnight. | 0:04:18 | 0:04:19 | |
That's happened over a couple of nights. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
-Oh, my God, Ted. -Yeah, I know. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
I had no idea it was this bad, Ted. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
With the whole flat under several inches of filthy water | 0:04:29 | 0:04:32 | |
and Ted's possessions ruined, Ian's shocked by the scale | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
of the deluge and can't understand how Ted's allowed it to get so bad. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
Ah, I've got them in my shoes. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
-Yeah, I know, mate. -Ted, what on earth have you let...? | 0:04:44 | 0:04:49 | |
Yeah, I know. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
Yeah, but, Ted, you should've told us about it | 0:04:51 | 0:04:53 | |
as soon as you got the leak. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:54 | |
Well, I've been backwards and forwards to Bury St Edmunds | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
because I have health problems... | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
..and, it's, er... | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
You know, it's just got worse and worse. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
Right, I'm going to go and try and find out where | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
the mains water comes in. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
Easier said than done. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:16 | |
With no idea where to find the stopcock, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
Ian's forced to phone back to base for help. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
Hi, it's only Ian from Housing. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
Steve, where are the mains' stopcocks outside | 0:05:25 | 0:05:29 | |
these properties so we can get the water turned off? | 0:05:29 | 0:05:31 | |
Let's put it this way - the water's so deep and horrible, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
I've got it inside my shoes and I'm not best pleased. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
It seems they can't help, either. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
I just can't believe that we don't know where our stopcocks are | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
for these properties, but there we go. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
They were built some time ago. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
Even more frustrating for Ian is his suspicion that | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
the leak's been going on for longer than Ted's letting on. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
I came here last Tuesday | 0:05:55 | 0:05:57 | |
and there was a little bit of water out the front. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
I spoke with Ted at the time and he said | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
he'd washed the concrete floor down inside with a couple of buckets. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
What sounds like it could've been a small repair | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
has now left the council facing a full-scale clean-up operation. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:11 | |
The water is actually coming down below the dampcourse. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
That's going to take some considerable time | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
to dry this property out. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:20 | |
And it's left Ted with nowhere to live. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:22 | |
I've spoken with the Homeless team and we haven't got any units | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
available for homeless at the moment. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
But with neighbours stepping in to lend a hand, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
at least music lover Ted's most valued possessions are safe. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:37 | |
-We can store some bits for you. -Yeah, well... | 0:06:37 | 0:06:39 | |
At least that way it's not all over the place. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
I'm just going to run this up there. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:42 | |
We'll sort him out a place somewhere. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Whether it be one of our properties that's coming up for rent | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
or something just to get him into or it may well be bed and breakfast. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
Although he's been happy just to roll up his trousers and wade, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
with the water still rising, even Ian's had to admit defeat | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
and accept he's not properly equipped to deal with the problem. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
I've got everything in that I can. Need to go and get some wellies | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
because I need to have a look at exactly what's going on. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
As far as he's concerned, the cluttered state of Ted's flat, | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
even before the flood, hasn't helped the situation. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
If he'd only got the rubbish out the way, | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
that water would've come gushing out the front of the house, I'm sure. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
It's sort of like dammed it in there. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
The water's still pouring in and it doesn't look like it'll be | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
stopping any time soon. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
I've just had a phone call while I've been out getting some boots. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:32 | |
Anglian Water have been contacted. They've given us | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
an arrival time of any time between now and 6pm tomorrow. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
So, at this stage, I'm hoping it's going to be a lot quicker. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
So, now properly kitted and potentially facing a 24-hour wait | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
for the water company, Ian decides to wade in again himself. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
At least I don't have to have my trousers pulled up this time. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
-You all right, Ted? -Hello, there. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
All right, I'm coming back in. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
I've got some boots now, so I'll be able to see. | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
I'm dreadfully sorry, mate. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
-That's all right. Look, these things happen, don't they? -Yeah, I know. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
But the shocking condition Ted had let the flat get into | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
even before the flood isn't making the situation any easier. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
I don't know what's in here, if you know what I mean. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
I don't get paid enough for this. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:22 | |
With piles of clothes and old newspapers everywhere, | 0:08:22 | 0:08:25 | |
the whole flat's under several inches of dirty water | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
and soaking wet rubbish. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:29 | |
There's a drain in here. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
If I can get the water... | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
running into that drain, which it is. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
Thank God for that. | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
With the blockage cleared, there's more good news. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
-Ian? -Yeah? | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
Anglian Water. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
-Oh, they're here, are they? -Yes. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
It's going down the drain now - some of it. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
Finding the stopcock finally means that water isn't pouring | 0:08:57 | 0:09:00 | |
into Ted's flat. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
But it's also created a new problem for Ian | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
and the rest of the tenants. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
Unfortunately, the only stopcock to the premises outside is | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
the one up there, which has turned all 12 flats off, | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
which I need to get someone back as soon as possible. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:17 | |
With the supply finally cut off, though, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
reinforcements from the council mean the massive clean-up | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
can get under way. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:24 | |
Be prepared. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
With Ted's clutter everywhere, it isn't going to be easy. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:29 | |
We're going to need to clear a lot of this before we can get | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
-a lot of this water out. -Oh, Ted. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:34 | |
-Right, these guys are here to start clearing up. -Yeah. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
-Because of all the paper and everything in this... -Yeah, yeah. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
..they aren't going to be able to use their sucker. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
I don't know. Are we going to need to get a skip here? | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
I personally would think so. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:49 | |
-At least if we can make a start... -We'll make a start. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
The flat isn't going to be habitable any time soon, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
but at least there's some good news about where Ted's going to stay. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:00 | |
Basically, I've just had a call from the Homeless Team. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
We've managed to get bed and breakfast for Ted tonight. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:07 | |
Be careful, Ted. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:08 | |
Something coming. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:10 | |
It's only a couple of hundred yards away, | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
so we'll get over there with his bags and take him over there now. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
Oh, dear! | 0:10:15 | 0:10:16 | |
It might just be a temporary solution, but at least | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
he'll be close to home. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
-Quite smart, isn't it? -Yeah. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
-You've even got coffee making facility, look. -Yeah. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
Right. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
-OK. -OK, you're sorted out for today. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
-OK, mate. -All right. And good luck, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
and I'll contact you at the end of the week. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
Bye! | 0:10:32 | 0:10:33 | |
It's a great result for Ian, so far. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:35 | |
The hard work is only just beginning. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
The rest of the team will take over in terms of what we need to do | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
with that property tomorrow. Erm, successful day, really! | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
Later, I'll be lending a helping hand to bring Ted home. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
I've been trusted with the guitar, though, which is... | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
-Well, you're honoured, then, aren't you? -I'm very lucky. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
It seems he's moved in more ways than one. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
-Is it a bit of a shock? Are you all right? -Yeah. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
In rural Lincolnshire, North Kesteven District Council | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
housing officer Chris Gallimore is acting on a complaint | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
from a tenant about a privately rented property | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
that he claims was in such a dangerous state, he moved out. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
I think the tenant... They weren't there very long. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:29 | |
They were there a few months and they moved out. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:33 | |
They weren't happy with the condition of the property. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
Former tenant Jack and his girlfriend thought they'd found | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
their perfect home, when they rented a picture-postcard conversion | 0:11:38 | 0:11:42 | |
of an old village school. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:43 | |
When we first saw this property, me and my girlfriend... | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
We just fell in love with it. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
When we first moved in, it looked like a nice house. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
But before long they became concerned it was | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
putting their safety at risk. | 0:11:59 | 0:12:00 | |
Well, the house was a deathtrap, at the end of the day. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
I mean, there was just exposed wires, | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
the spiral staircase wasn't safe up to the living room, | 0:12:07 | 0:12:10 | |
the gaps in the banisters were easy enough to fall down | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
and they were quite dangerous. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
And we were told that we'd be having a new fire installed, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
but again nothing come about it, so we was using the storage heaters | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
which were inefficient and expensive to run. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
After three months, they decided to move out, | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
but not before contacting the council. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
At the moment I don't think there's a tenant residing there, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
but there's going to be another one imminently coming in. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:35 | |
So what we want to do is get some improvements made | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
before the next tenant comes in. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
Chris has done some digging and thinks the safety concerns | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
are actually part of a problem dating back almost two decades. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:47 | |
One of the issues is that when the property was converted, it wasn't | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
authorised by Building Control and it hasn't been signed off by them. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
The man responsible for the conversion is Richard Taylor. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:58 | |
-Hello. -Hi, there. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
-Chris Gallimore from the council. -Hi. -Pleased to meet you. -Richard. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
Richard's daughter now owns the property | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
and he's agreed to talk to Chris on her behalf. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:09 | |
But it's not good news. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
One of the main issues with this property, | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
after I did some research at the council, is that it wasn't actually | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
-signed off - the conversion - at the time... -Yes. -..it was converted. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
To comply with the Building Act 1984, | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
buildings must meet minimum standards for health and safety | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
set out in the Government's building regulations. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
New buildings and most conversions must be signed off | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
by the local authority Building Control, | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
or by an approved independent inspector. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
Crucially, it's the owner's responsibility | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
to ensure projects have a final certificate | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
to say work meets the legal standard required. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:47 | |
It's something Richard never did. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
So what I've got is a copy of the notice from Building Control, | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
which is this one. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
Quite a lot of the issues that's highlighted on there are things | 0:13:55 | 0:13:58 | |
that I'm kind of concerned about as well. | 0:13:58 | 0:14:00 | |
17 years ago, Building Control told Richard | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
the handrails weren't safe and needed to be changed. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
They weren't changed and they're still dangerous. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:10 | |
The problem if you've got a gap that's less than 100 millimetres | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
is a child can actually get their head stuck in it. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:15 | |
And I think certainly a small child could probably fall through that gap | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
with the size of it. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
It's not the only health hazard listed in Chris's copy | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
of the original inspection report. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
Hazards that were never fixed. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:27 | |
Just going back to the list there, another thing | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
they're basically saying is that the staircase doesn't comply, either. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
And from my understanding, it is that the spiral staircase | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
should never have been put in in the first place. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:37 | |
No, no, that's entirely untrue, I'm afraid. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
No, we had regular inspections when I put all this in. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
I wouldn't have put in a spiral staircase without any consideration. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
If you look at this staircase, it's got very narrow tapered treads | 0:14:46 | 0:14:49 | |
on the inside. You've got no proper handrail on the inside. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:52 | |
You've got open risers where people can trip going up, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
the lighting isn't very good. There's a lot of issues with it. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:57 | |
That's a duty of care that I've got, I understand, not you. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
Well, it's not, because it's the Housing Act 2004, | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
which is a regulation. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
Known as a duty of care, landlords are legally responsible | 0:15:04 | 0:15:07 | |
for preventing personal injury to tenants caused by defects | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
to a property. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:12 | |
But Richard doesn't seem to realise it's the council's job | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
to enforce this. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:16 | |
At the moment, there are offences under the Housing Act | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
in this property, OK? So we wouldn't be able to allow | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
a tenant come in this property at the moment. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
Later, it seems Chris will have to tread carefully | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
if he wants to solve the stalemate over the staircase. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
Can I stop you there? I paid quite a bit of money for | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
the building inspection on this place. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:35 | |
Can you tell me why there's no record of what they've seen? | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
-For Building Control? -Yeah. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:39 | |
Unfortunately, you're going to need to speak to them. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
-Maybe you should speak to them before you come to me next time. -Yeah. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
Defending our right to a safe place to live | 0:15:50 | 0:15:53 | |
is the job of housing officers right across the UK. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
-This is not really an acceptable way of leaving the property behind. -Do you think(?) | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
I'm working alongside the men and women that do exactly that. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:06 | |
-Top marks. -Yes! | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
-I'm hitting the streets... -Hello! Can you open up? | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
Definitely somebody inside, because we've seen movement. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
..finding out what's happening on the front line... | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
Cistern's in the bath. I don't know how they flush it. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
..and learning what it takes | 0:16:20 | 0:16:21 | |
to make sure a house is fit to be called a home. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
I'm very shocked. This is ridiculous. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
You shouldn't have people living in here. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
In Suffolk, tenant Ted Hurrell's failure to report a leaky pipe | 0:16:36 | 0:16:40 | |
left housing officer Ian Watson facing a full-scale flood | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
and a mammoth clean-up operation. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
I don't know what's in here, if you know what I mean. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
I don't get paid enough for this! | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
True to Ian's word, the flat's finished and I've come back to help Ted move back in. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:59 | |
Are we all right to come in? | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:04 | |
You should be all right back there - it's dry now. | 0:17:04 | 0:17:06 | |
-I've been almost afraid to look in. -You should be quite pleased, I hope. | 0:17:06 | 0:17:10 | |
Right, do you want me to grab a couple of those? | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
You could grab a couple of those. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
It looks like I get the job of moving music lover Ted's most prized possession. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
I've been trusted with the guitar, though, which is... | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
-You're honoured, then, aren't you? -I'm very lucky. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
-All right. -Good stuff. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
-OK. -In the back, Ted. | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
-Are you all right, Ted? -Yeah. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
'It's the first time Ted's seen the flat.' | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
Go on, Ted. I'll let you go first. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
You can see what it's like then. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:49 | |
'The place is completely unrecognisable.' | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
So what's happened here, Ted... | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
As you can see, all of your stuff, it's all clear and clean, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
all the walls have been done | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
and the floor is clean, ready for something to go down. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
Yeah. I mean, oh, golly. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:20 | |
Your records are here. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
Gracious me, yeah. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
'Clearly, it's all a bit overwhelming.' | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Is it a bit of a shock? Are you all right? | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
Yeah. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
It's... | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
It just means you can start completely from scratch. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
-Something to be proud of now, ain't there? -It is, and... | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
I swear to God that I shall endeavour to keep it this way. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:56 | |
Well, I want to keep you to that cos I want to come | 0:18:56 | 0:18:59 | |
and have a cup of coffee with you in your nice flat now. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
Yeah, well, I will be pleased to receive you. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:06 | |
Good. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:07 | |
You've done a wonderful job. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
'After all of Ian's hard work, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
'we're both determined to make sure Ted never lets things | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
'get so out of hand again.' | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
So this is a wet room now, OK? | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
So you've got a floor that all slopes down to the drain here. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
All brand spanking new. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
Any leaks, anything like that - what are you going to do? | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
Mr Watson will be informed or... | 0:19:28 | 0:19:30 | |
Of course they will informed immediately. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
All right, good stuff. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
Ted, would it be all right if you and I sit down and have a little chat? | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
'If there's one thing I've learnt from Ian, | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
'it's the importance of being able to relate to the people you're helping. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
'And something I definitely have in common with Ted is a love of music - | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
'a love that he says helped him battle his addiction.' | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
It's a really nice guitar, that. It's beautiful. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
TED SINGS | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
# On a dark, stormy night... # | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
What does your music give you, then? | 0:20:13 | 0:20:14 | |
What does that provide you with? | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
Comfort. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
I need to do it to survive. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
God and music have been my salvation. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
Now I've got the chance to start again. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
'It seems that the flood hasn't just given Ted the chance to start again. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
More importantly, it's inspired him to want to. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:37 | |
What were your thoughts when you walked in the door? | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
Because it seemed to me you were quite emotional. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
-I was. -Why was that? What were you thinking? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
Because I think they've done all this for you, | 0:20:48 | 0:20:52 | |
and I try to think back to what I was living in before, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
you cannot... You cannot let this happen again. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
I don't want to go down on record as an unreliable tenant. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
-Yeah. -Period. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
I want to have a nice place that I can bring people round. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
I want to come back and hear you sing happy songs. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
It's so lovely meeting you, honestly. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
And I really wish you the best. I hope it works out here, Ted. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
Yeah, I want it to work out. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
And, you know, keep playing. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:23 | |
Really nice to meet you, Ted. Take care. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
'Seeing Ted so determined to take more responsibility for himself | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
'means of all Ian's hard work has paid off.' | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
I know you wanted to go in there and sort of remind Ted | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
that, you know, for all this effort that you've put in | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
and the money that's been spent, there is a responsibility. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:42 | |
-I think he gets it. -I think so. -Do you? I mean... | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
Yeah, I really do think we had a connection there with him | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
and certainly you did, you know, so he's going to remember this time. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:54 | |
And I won't forget it in a hurry, either. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
Well, Ian said to me that one of the key strengths | 0:21:58 | 0:22:00 | |
you need as a community housing officer | 0:22:00 | 0:22:03 | |
is the ability to understand somebody, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
put yourself in their shoes. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
It's never been easier for me than with someone like Ted. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
His love of music and my love of music are in exactly the same place | 0:22:12 | 0:22:16 | |
but at the point where he was up to his ankles in water, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:20 | |
that was almost all he had left. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:22 | |
Now, that problem has been resolved | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
and he's got a space that's clean and bright and warm | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
and that's all thanks to Ian. | 0:00:00 | 0:00:00 | |
In Lincolnshire, Chris Gallimore's been investigating claims from former tenants | 0:22:42 | 0:22:46 | |
that a converted schoolhouse could be putting lives in danger. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
It's a problem that dates back nearly two decades. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
One of the main issues with this property was I actually | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
signed off the conversion. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
But having converted the property himself | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
it's a frustrating situation for the owner's father, Richard. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
No longer able to live there herself but still liable for council tax on the empty house | 0:23:07 | 0:23:12 | |
he says the council advised his daughter to rent it out | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
to cover the cost. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:16 | |
They suggested that we should take in tenants, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:20 | |
which is why we're here, standing here today. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
Never rented this place off. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
I think the only issue with that is, you know, | 0:23:24 | 0:23:25 | |
that'd be a suggestion for them but they wouldn't necessarily know whether the property is... | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
I did point out that there were exceptional circumstances | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
that they could investigate if they wanted to. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
They didn't, so she's left high and dry here | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
with this property that she pays rates on, | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
water rates and a mortgage. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
-Yeah. -And she can't rent it either. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
For Chris, any suggestion from the council to let the house | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
would have been subject to it meeting the minimum safety standards | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
for a rental property - which leaves them both with a problem. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:56 | |
In its current condition, we wouldn't want it rented out to a tenant. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
However, there are things you can do to improve the property where you could rent it out to a tenant. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:03 | |
And with the argument about the spiral staircase going round | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
and round in circles, he decides to move on to complaints | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
from the previous tenants about inadequate heating. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:12 | |
Cos you've got electric heating in here, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
if at any point the electricity wasn't working | 0:24:16 | 0:24:19 | |
so your secondary form of heating was the multi-fuel burner | 0:24:19 | 0:24:23 | |
in the corner there, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:24 | |
unfortunately, that's been condemned and it's got a sticker on it | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
saying that's it's been condemned. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
The actual fire's not condemned. It's the chimney... | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
Either way, it can't be used, can it, so... | 0:24:32 | 0:24:36 | |
Well, you can if we mend the chimney. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:37 | |
It's not a great start, and it doesn't get any better. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
The storage heaters that are in here, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:43 | |
how old would you say the storage heaters are? | 0:24:43 | 0:24:46 | |
About 15 years old. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:47 | |
15 years, yes. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:48 | |
And how do you know they're working correctly? | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
Do you ever get anybody to test them, or...? | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
I left here and they were working and as far as I know they haven't been used since, so... | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
One of the problems, obviously, with the storage heaters is that they're | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
not that good in they're not that good in poorly insulated buildings. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
Well, I actually found them very... | 0:25:05 | 0:25:06 | |
The modern storage heaters actually have | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
a fan in them and it actually blows the heat out. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
-You're talking a lot of money here. -It could be, yeah. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
The cost of making this place suitable for tenants is mounting. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
Richard's adamant he was never told that the conversion didn't | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
comply with building regulations, despite an inspection at the time. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:24 | |
Can I stop you there? | 0:25:24 | 0:25:25 | |
I played quite a bit of money for the building inspection on this place. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
Can you tell me why there is no record of what they've seen? | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
-For building control? -Yes. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:33 | |
-Maybe you should speak to them before you come to me next time. -Yeah. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:38 | |
Well, Chris has already spoken to them. | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
The next thing on his list is ex-tenant Jack's claims | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
about potentially dangerous wiring. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
There were some issues with the electrics as well. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
I'm having the building tested next week. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
Including the appliances. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
Is it possible I can get a copy of that? | 0:25:55 | 0:25:57 | |
Sure, that's what I'm doing it for. That's fine, yes. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
After what's been a difficult meeting for both parties, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
getting the electrics tested is at least one thing they can agree on. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:06 | |
OK, thanks a lot for your time anyway, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
and stay in contact, and hopefully be in contact with me, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
as well, with any... Any sort of... | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
I hope you appreciate my position. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:15 | |
I didn't want to give you too much of a hard time. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
I'm just pressing you so I know what I'm doing, really. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
Knowing what needs to be done and being happy about it | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
are two different things, though. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
I think they're making unreasonable suggestions today, | 0:26:26 | 0:26:29 | |
to be quite frank. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
It's a modern problem today that health and safety | 0:26:30 | 0:26:32 | |
tends to take the extreme rather than the moderate level of thinking. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:37 | |
My experience has always been that they wish to spend your money a lot, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
and if you cooperate too much then they will spend more money. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
Beyond that, it just bugs me a little bit to think that that | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
my duty of care extends to and stretches beyond reasonable | 0:26:48 | 0:26:53 | |
expectations, to be honest with you. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:56 | |
But the council has a very different view. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
To put tenants in a building that you know hasn't been approved | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
as being appropriate under the regulations at the time I think is a bit irresponsible. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:07 | |
The building wasn't ever signed off in the first place by | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
building control and he needs to appreciate, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
if the stairs weren't safe, they're still not safe now. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
As the owner, Richard was legally responsible for rectifying | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
any safety hazards | 0:27:18 | 0:27:19 | |
and getting the property signed off when the house was converted. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
But, determined to keep the staircase, | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
he's come up with a more radical solution. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
I'm going to consult with my daughter and then I'm going | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
to move back into this. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:32 | |
The thing about building regulations are, | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
you can still live in the building providing you yourself stay | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
there and are prepared to take the risk that you put into the | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
building, which, of course, I am. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
That's it for today. Join me next time on the front line | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
with Britain's housing officers. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 |