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You could be down there without anybody knowing. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
'Everyone deserves a safe place to live.' | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
Your home is falling apart, you're going to fall apart. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
'But with rents rising and demand increasing, | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
'it's getting harder and harder to find a secure place to call home.' | 0:00:11 | 0:00:16 | |
-It's a stinky little hole. -It is. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
'I'm Matt Allwright and I'm back with the housing enforcers.' | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
Phew! It stinks. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
If I'm honest with you, | 0:00:23 | 0:00:24 | |
I'm not sure whether I would want Grace going into that house. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:28 | |
'I'm on the front line | 0:00:28 | 0:00:29 | |
'with those fighting for the right to decent housing...' | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
Ooh, this place is a bit of a mess. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
They usually urinate in that corner. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
'..as local councils and housing associations | 0:00:36 | 0:00:38 | |
'battle problem properties, and slum conditions...' | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
The smell in there, everything just reeks. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
'..as they deal with dodgy landlords... | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
Probably here is about as far as it's safe to go. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
'..nightmare neighbours...' | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
-She has been kicking you? -Yeah. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:52 | |
Get rid of him. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
'..and everything in-between.' | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
OK... | 0:00:56 | 0:00:57 | |
'..to help those in need of a happy and healthy home.' | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
-Behind every door... -Yeah. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:02 | |
..is a little bit of a detective story. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
'Today I might have bitten off more than I can chew | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
'at a community lunch club.' | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
We've got apple pie to go next | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
and I would imagine that the entire assembly | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
is going to want a cup of tea afterwards, as well. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
Ah! That's hot! | 0:01:23 | 0:01:24 | |
'In Suffolk, a council eviction doesn't quite go according to plan.' | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
They seem to have double-locked the door. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
RATTLING | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
This is a good example of a good old waste of council time. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
'In Newcastle, housing officers try to help | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
'tenants living in fear of a neighbour from hell. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
-He comes to his window and shouts... -"I'm surrounded." | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
"I'm surrounded, I've got a bomb. I'm going to blow yous all up." | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
It's almost like he's declared war on everybody. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
-Everybody. -It's not just you guys. | 0:01:54 | 0:01:56 | |
'And after 50 happy years, | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
'this tenant in Stroud is facing up to losing his home.' | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
I never thought we'd ever move, but that's the way it happens. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:07 | |
You think, "I've been here 57 years" - | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
it's a long time, isn't it? | 0:02:09 | 0:02:10 | |
Making sure everyone has the chance | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
to find and keep a roof over their heads | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
is the job of housing officers across the UK. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:23 | |
I'm working alongside these men and women | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
who use the law to make sure we don't live in slums, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:28 | |
but in homes fit to raise a family or enjoy our retirement. | 0:02:28 | 0:02:32 | |
They can make sure you have the facilities you need | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
as you get older. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:36 | |
They also have the power to enforce a landlord | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
to sort out a dangerous property | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
or help evict a bad tenant. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
It's definitely a challenging role. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
Welcome to the world of the housing enforcers. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
The UK is facing up to the challenge of an ageing population, | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
with recent statistics suggesting that in just over 20 years' time, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
almost a third of us will be over 60. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
That's obviously going to have a huge impact on our housing needs, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
but there's also another issue | 0:03:07 | 0:03:08 | |
facing local councils and housing associations. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
It's estimated that, today, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:13 | |
more than a million older people will go a whole month | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
without speaking to friends, family or neighbours, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:19 | |
and there are real fears that loneliness | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
could be the next big public health issue. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
Today, I'm in London. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
Welcome to the old banger. | 0:03:28 | 0:03:29 | |
If it doesn't start first time, don't be too concerned. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:34 | |
On the road - hopefully - | 0:03:36 | 0:03:37 | |
with Hyde housing officer, Grace Briody. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
She's become more than a little concerned | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
about a couple of her local elderly residents. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
Hello, Sylvia, it's Grace. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
BEEPING | 0:03:46 | 0:03:48 | |
That's that one. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:50 | |
'They both live up here on the third floor.' | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
OK. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:56 | |
No escaping the rain, even up here. | 0:03:57 | 0:03:59 | |
'Although London is one of the busiest cities in the world, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
'Grace is worried this pair may be in danger of becoming isolated | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
'from their local community.' | 0:04:05 | 0:04:07 | |
Coming in. Hello. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
How are you doing, Shirley? | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
'Now in their 80s, and with health and mobility problems, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:16 | |
'Sylvia and Shirley have shared many happy memories here in their flat.' | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
How long have you two lived together now? | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
We've been here, we've been friends a long time. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
I couldn't tell you how long, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:26 | |
but we've been friends for a long time. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
My mum and dad was alive, her parents was alive, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
and everything was lovely. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
We've been very, very good friends. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
Haven't we, Sylvia? | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
-Yes. -Yeah. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
And if anyone has a go at her, I have a go at them. | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
-You're like my sister. -Oh, yeah. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
-You are a team? -Yeah. | 0:04:46 | 0:04:48 | |
And also, there's Peanuts, as well. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
-How old is he know, 14? -14, he is, yeah. -Getting on. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:56 | |
When the lady came in this morning, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
she tried to take him out but he's a bit stubborn, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
he wouldn't go out cos it was raining. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
Oh, of course. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
'Although life inside these four walls seems happy enough, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
'Grace is worried that it's been a while | 0:05:07 | 0:05:09 | |
'since either Shirley or Sylvia has ventured outside.' | 0:05:09 | 0:05:12 | |
One of the things we talked about was that you're a bit worried | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
about not getting out | 0:05:15 | 0:05:16 | |
cos you're worried about getting a bit lonely | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
or feeling a bit, kind of, isolated. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
When you're indoors, you know you're only going to sit here | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
and look after Peanuts, but Peanuts is no trouble, really. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
What happens when you don't go out, though, for a few weeks? | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
When I don't go out, I sit here, I do whatever I'm doing - | 0:05:30 | 0:05:35 | |
cooking, I do the cooking for me and Sylvie. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
We watch TV or I go in my bedroom and do my knitting | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
or listen to the wireless set there. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
'Well, today's going to be a bit different, | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
'as Grace has organised a little trip for the girls.' | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
So, how are you feeling about lunch club today? | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
Do you remember we spoke about lunch club? | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
-Going to the centre, you mean? -Mm. -Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:58 | |
-Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
I just want to get out, meet people, and that's it. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
'A visit to a community lunch club | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
'might not seem part of a housing officer's job description, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
'but as I've learned, a home for people like Sylvia and Shirley | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
'is more than just bricks and mortar - | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
'it's about the community that you live in, too.' | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
What's it like, having Grace to come and help you with these things? | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
It's good, it's good. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:21 | |
Comes and talks to us and all that, helps us out a bit, you know. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:26 | |
How about this lunch club? Are you looking forward to that? | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
I don't know, cos I've never been before. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:30 | |
-You never know, you might make some friends there... -Might do. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
-That you could see regularly. -Yes. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
-I really hope they've got some of these cupcakes. -What? | 0:06:36 | 0:06:40 | |
The little cupcakes, you know, with loads of icing on top. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
Do you know what? I've never had a cake in my life. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
I've not had one cake. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
How have you avoided cake? | 0:06:47 | 0:06:48 | |
Just avoid it. Just leave it alone. Just leave it alone. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
Cos cake is one of the best things there is. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
'Shirley definitely seems to have | 0:06:56 | 0:06:57 | |
'got the taste for a trip out, though. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
'Unfortunately, Sylvia's not feeling up to it today.' | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
I'll be back in a few hours. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:04 | |
I'll pop back up with Shirley, all right? | 0:07:04 | 0:07:06 | |
-Yeah. -All right, then. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:07 | |
'So, it's up to me and Grace to provide backup.' | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
There's Sylvia and Shirley, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
both with their particular selection of challenges to overcome. | 0:07:13 | 0:07:17 | |
But they're still getting by. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
Imagine the same picture, | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
without Gracie and the other little team of people | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
that they've got helping them, just to do the basics, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:27 | |
just to do the stuff that we kind of take for granted, | 0:07:27 | 0:07:30 | |
and that whole picture would be much more dismal, I think. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:35 | |
Anyway, lunch club beckons. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
I can't believe that Shirley's never had cake. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
That's not right. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:41 | |
'Later on, we'll see how both Shirley and I get on | 0:07:42 | 0:07:45 | |
'when the dinner bell sounds.' | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
Very important job, being in charge of custard, you know. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
-It is. -You can't muck this up. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:51 | |
Meanwhile in Suffolk, | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
housing officer Andrew Weavers | 0:07:59 | 0:08:00 | |
is on his way to carry out | 0:08:00 | 0:08:02 | |
one of the more unpleasant parts of the job. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
The main role of a housing officer is to get people into housing | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
but, sometimes, when there's no other option, | 0:08:08 | 0:08:10 | |
they have to remove tenants from their homes, too. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
There's an eviction on today, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:15 | |
someone has failed to pay their rent. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
It takes an awful lot for someone to lose their council tenancy. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
People tend to get a lot of chances to pay their rent | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
and make agreements and arrangements. | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
We do our best to keep the roof over people's heads. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
It's really important, | 0:08:30 | 0:08:31 | |
people don't realise the amount of support | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
that we have to put in to try and keep people in their homes. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
We don't want to evict people. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:38 | |
We always see eviction as a failure. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
The first thing Andrew has to do is gain access to the property, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
but when tenants are either absent or refuse to cooperate, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:51 | |
it can be easier said than done. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:53 | |
If he's there, then great. If not, we have to break the locks - | 0:08:55 | 0:09:00 | |
which these guys are going to do for me. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:01 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
There doesn't appear to be anyone at home, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
which might be just as well. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:11 | |
Andrew knows removing people from their homes | 0:09:11 | 0:09:13 | |
can mean tensions can rise. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:15 | |
The bailiff has got a stab vest on, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
we'll see if the council can fund a stab vest for me, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
if I can get one. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:22 | |
I haven't seen anyone wearing a stab vest | 0:09:24 | 0:09:25 | |
in this neck of the woods before, so... | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
Even with a locksmith and a very powerful drill, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
today's job of breaking and entering | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
seems to be particularly challenging. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:36 | |
They seem to have probably double-locked the door. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
This is a good example of a good old waste of council time. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:46 | |
It's not just time that's been wasted - | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
today's eviction is an unnecessary cost to the council as well | 0:09:52 | 0:09:55 | |
and providing quite a workout, as it happens. | 0:09:55 | 0:09:58 | |
He's well and truly locked that door and made sure life is made | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
a little bit more difficult for us. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:02 | |
Success at last. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:07 | |
That was a tough one. | 0:10:09 | 0:10:11 | |
HE PANTS | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
A lot of people pay for a gym membership, you know, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
it's a proper workout. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
Oh, dear. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:23 | |
Now the door is - finally - open, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
Andrew can assess the condition of the property... | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
..and that leaves quite a bit to be desired. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
They always forget to do the washing up | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
and one of the biggest rules is, when you're on an eviction, | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
is never open the fridge. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:55 | |
Never open the fridge. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:56 | |
Generally, if it has been empty for some while, | 0:10:56 | 0:10:59 | |
as soon as you open the fridge, the smell hits you. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Honestly, it really does get to you, the smell. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
I'm not going to open anything much. I'll leave that to someone else. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:07 | |
As I say, he hasn't washed up | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
and he's still got his washing in the washing machine, so... | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
Evictions in England and Wales are at an all-time high, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:20 | |
with more than 170 households removed from their homes every day. | 0:11:20 | 0:11:25 | |
When the eviction takes place, it's then up to people like Andrew | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
to make sure the property is in good condition | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
for the next tenant to move into. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
But in this case, it's not only the washing up and rubbish - | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
Andrew finds a couple of clues | 0:11:35 | 0:11:36 | |
that something more sinister may have been going on here. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:40 | |
Obviously, there's evidence of some sort of... | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
They look like old cannabis leaves, dried leaves there, look, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:47 | |
so there's obviously been some sort of drug smoking going on. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
A little baby one in there, look. So whether they were using this... | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
Cos there's another trough here, look. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:57 | |
They probably did a bit more growing, so... | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
I can just about smell that one. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:04 | |
That one's not quite completely dried out. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
With more than 1.2 million people | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
currently waiting for social housing in England alone, | 0:12:12 | 0:12:14 | |
there's clearly a demand for empty properties like this, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
but not in this state. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
This is obviously the living area. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
It's not very tidy. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:24 | |
It's got his little drug-smoking, little ashtray, look. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:27 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:12:27 | 0:12:28 | |
You know, he's left all his stuff here, | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
so we're going to have to store it for a little while, | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
which racks up a little bit more money. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
We do recharge when they reappear or we find them. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
These all appear to be, mostly, lovely bills. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
Enforcement notice there. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
That's a non-payment of council tax, dated last year. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
This flat will need a fair amount of work | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
to bring it back up to rentable standard, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
but, typically, Andrew is remaining positive. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
That's not so bad. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
We'll be able to clean that. We'll soon get someone else in here. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
There'll be a lot of money spent | 0:13:13 | 0:13:14 | |
trying to get this back to habitable again. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:17 | |
Getting this place clear, getting it all ready for the next tenant. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
Hopefully, we'll have someone who'll look after it | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
and who'd want...who'd want it as their home. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
Today, all that's left is to change the locks. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
Just have to make sure | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
all the windows are all secure and locked up | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
cos we don't want anyone breaking in and squatting. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:40 | |
If there's a window open, that gives them every right to get in, but... | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
Well, it's all ours now, it's back in our hands, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
so that's the end of this gentleman's tenancy | 0:13:49 | 0:13:53 | |
and I'll take these back and we then give this to our Voids team | 0:13:53 | 0:13:59 | |
who'll go in and get the place ready for the next tenant. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
Now there's just the matter of those possessions left behind. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
Just put a Section 41 notice on the door. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
This gives him the opportunity and the information | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
of how to contact us so that he can collect his bits and pieces | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
that may be of any value in here. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
After a certain date, we will dispose of anything that's in there. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:27 | |
That's me done, that's job done now, | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
the property is back in the council's hands. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:31 | |
Well, despite that opportunity to collect his possessions, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
the tenant left them for Andrew and the council to dispose of. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
The property has now been cleared and let to a new tenant | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
but the council is still trying to trace the former resident | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
to bill him for his rent arrears | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
and the costs of clearing up the flat. | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
Whether you're a private or social housing tenant, | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
the idea of a home for life is pretty appealing. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
But what happens when the home you think you'll spend | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
the rest of your days in becomes unfit for purpose? | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
In Stroud, one council housing block is now so antiquated, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
the tenants are having to move out. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
Queen's Court is a 60-year-old block of 24 flats and maisonettes. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
It was a fairly new building in 1958, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
when 11-year-old Jim moved in with his mother, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:35 | |
but the ageing building has reached the end of its natural life | 0:15:35 | 0:15:39 | |
and is scheduled for demolition. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:40 | |
You think, "I've been here 57 years" - | 0:15:40 | 0:15:42 | |
it's a long time, isn't it? | 0:15:42 | 0:15:44 | |
You get less than that for murder. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:46 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:15:46 | 0:15:47 | |
I never thought we'd ever move, but that's the way it happens. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
Along with other residents, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
68-year-old Jim has to pack up and move out. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
Housing officer Chris Eadie | 0:15:58 | 0:15:59 | |
has the responsibility to ensure | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
that all the residents | 0:16:01 | 0:16:02 | |
are suitably rehoused. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
This is an old block now, it's an unusual build for today, | 0:16:05 | 0:16:09 | |
it's not really suitable for today, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
because it's got maisonettes above flats, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
which aren't popular. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:14 | |
It's also in a condition where it's no longer economically viable | 0:16:14 | 0:16:18 | |
to maintain as it is and therefore, | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
we have to look at other options for people. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
The best option is to move people out | 0:16:23 | 0:16:25 | |
and sell the site so we can use the finances for something else. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:31 | |
Packing up after five decades in the same property | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
is bringing back lots of memories for Jim. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
I was an 11-year-old when we moved in to the Queen's Court. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
I'm 68 now, so I've been there a long time. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
Since the death of his mum three years ago, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
Jim has been living in the first-floor flat alone. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:51 | |
When my mother was alive, | 0:16:51 | 0:16:52 | |
I used to look after her and everything. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
She was too old, she was 91 when she passed away | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
and she didn't... | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
If she'd been alive now, I don't think she'd have been able to move. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:05 | |
She wouldn't have been able to put up with | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
all the hassle of moving. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
A dodgy knee has also left Jim struggling with the stairs, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
so the council has found him | 0:17:13 | 0:17:14 | |
a refurbished two-bedroom bungalow nearby. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
I was lucky to find this place. I'm quite pleased now. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:20 | |
Just looking forward to the new challenge now. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
With his move only days away, | 0:17:25 | 0:17:26 | |
Jim has come to the council offices | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
to meet tenancy supervisor Chris Horwood. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Hi there, Jim. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:34 | |
Lovely. OK. | 0:17:36 | 0:17:38 | |
This is your tenancy pack, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:39 | |
-that you're going to take away with you. -That's fine. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
You don't need to make notes or anything, cos you've got it. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
OK, this is your tenancy agreement, then, Jim. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
You can see here it's a secure tenancy agreement, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:51 | |
exactly the same as the one you've got at the moment. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
You're not demoted or anything. You have a secure tenancy, you keep a secure tenancy. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
You've been a tenant with us for a long time, haven't you? So... | 0:17:56 | 0:17:59 | |
Yeah, well, obviously, when we moved in, | 0:17:59 | 0:18:03 | |
1958, I think it was, believe it or not... | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
My mother... When did she pass away? | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
Three years in November, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:09 | |
so I took the tenancy over, then. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
-Yeah. Amazing, isn't it? -Yeah. -OK. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
If you wouldn't mind just signing to say you've had your keys. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
-There we go. -Great stuff. That's it, we're done. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
I hope you're very happy in your new home. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:22 | |
I know it wasn't a choice of yours to move, was it? | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
-No, but... -It's a nice property. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
It'll be nice to have it all on one level, won't it? | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
-Yeah. -I'm quite looking forward to it, actually. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:34 | |
Yeah, that's good. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:35 | |
-Thanks. -Nice to meet you. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:38 | |
As a secure tenant, Jim has been assured | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
he can live in his next property for the rest of his life | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
as long as he doesn't break the conditions of the tenancy. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
But that doesn't make the process | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
of packing up half a century of memories any easier. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:51 | |
I haven't got much more to do, now so... | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
Just some clothes I've got to take with me, obviously, pack that up. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
Um...there's a few things in the kitchen and that's about it. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
Fortunately, the new property will be able to accommodate | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
the things that matter most. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
The cabinet, I would love to take with me, which I can. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
It was my mother's, she bought it. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
It's sentimental, yes. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
That's quite old, actually. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:17 | |
Mw other furniture, I haven't got to get rid of it, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
I can get it all in, which is really, really pleasing. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
Moving away after so many years can't be easy, | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
but Jim is trying to stay positive. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
I'll miss the neighbours, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
but it's a new experience, | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
so I'm quite looking forward to it now. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
So I just have to get on with life. | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
I hope so anyway. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
We'll be joining Jim as he moves into his new bungalow | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
a bit later on. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:49 | |
Actually, it's the first time I've seen it. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
I didn't know they were going to put a new kitchen in, which is... | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
I'm over the moon with that, it's really good. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
Defending our right to a safe place to live | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
is the job of housing officers right across the UK. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
This is how they live. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:07 | |
-There was a fire. -There weren't. Was not! | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
I'm working alongside the men and women that do exactly that. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
Looks like whoever was here had their last couple of parties | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
and then decided to give it up. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:18 | |
Hitting the streets, | 0:20:18 | 0:20:19 | |
finding out what's happening on the front line... | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
Warrants have been issued and they can be enforced. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
..as we make sure a house is a fit place to call home. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:29 | |
There's a strong smell of damp, | 0:20:29 | 0:20:30 | |
you can notice it as soon as you come in the property. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
We're going to have no choice but to take them to court. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
Job well done. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
Earlier, we met Shirley and Sylvia at their third-floor flat. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
Housing officer Grace was concerned | 0:20:47 | 0:20:48 | |
they might be becoming isolated from the rest of the community | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
so organised a local trip to a local older people's lunch club | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
and although Sylvia wasn't quite feeling up to it, | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
Shirley was more than happy to poke her head out of the door, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
despite the weather. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:01 | |
Cheers, my love. Thank you. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
You've got the umbrella this time. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
GRACE LAUGHS No mistakes this time. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
You want the umbrella? | 0:21:08 | 0:21:10 | |
BOTH: No, you're all right. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:11 | |
'The idea of this local lunch club is to keep people socialising, | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
'especially those who might find it hard to get out of the house.' | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
-It smells good. -That smells good. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
-Something smells nice. -That smells awesome. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
-Hello. -Morning. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
Morning, morning. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
Something smells nice. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
Hello. You all right? | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
'It looks as if the guys here are expecting a big crowd.' | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
If you want help serving the food, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:38 | |
give me a shout and I'll help you out. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:39 | |
I can help - I'm useless, but I'll do my best. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
-I'll do whatever I can. -Maybe set the tables. -Yeah? | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
'Always happy to lend a hand. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
'Now, let's hope there's some cake on the menu for Shirley.' | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
I hope you enjoy your lunch today. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:51 | |
-We've got roast lamb. -Good. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:53 | |
Oh...! | 0:21:53 | 0:21:55 | |
Roast potatoes, parsnips. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:56 | |
-Wow. -Mixed vegetables. Cabbage. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
-Very nice. -Yeah. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
I don't know if you heard, but that was my tummy rumbling. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
For future reference. | 0:22:05 | 0:22:06 | |
And apple pie, custard, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:07 | |
and they've got melons to start with today. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
And there's some juice. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
-How does that sound, Shirley? -Apple pie, hello! | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
That's all right, I think we've got a taker there. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:18 | |
'OK, so, no cake, but apple pie and custard. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
'What's wrong with that? | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
'To prove there's no such thing as a free lunch, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
'look, there's a new work experience lad in the kitchen.' | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
I'm behind the scenes here at the Hyde village lunch club. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:33 | |
We're awaiting the onslaught, there's a coachload coming. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:37 | |
We've got to be ready for when they get here. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:42 | |
'I've got my fetching green pinny on. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
'What could possibly go wrong?' | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
Here they come. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:49 | |
-You go - no, after you. -Are you sure? -Yes, definitely. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
'Everyone here is really friendly, | 0:22:54 | 0:22:55 | |
'but it still must be a little nerve-racking for Shirley, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
'especially as she hasn't experienced | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
'so many new faces in a while. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:02 | |
'I really admire her for getting out and not giving up.' | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
Shirley, do you want a cup of tea? | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
-Yes, please. -There you go. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:09 | |
-What's your name, sir? -Kenny. | 0:23:09 | 0:23:10 | |
Kenny, would you like a cup of tea? There you go, mate. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
'As Grace has learned only too well, | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
'there's not much that a cup of tea and a good chinwag can't cure. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
When I used to look after old people, | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
I used to ask them the silliest of questions every week. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
One of the questions I asked one week was, "How old do you feel?" | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
The interesting answer would always be, | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
"To be honest, I know I'm 80, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
"but I actually just feel like I'm 18." | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
Can you imagine putting an 18-year-old in a house | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
and telling them they can't leave cos they're not mobile and able to | 0:23:36 | 0:23:39 | |
and expect them to be OK with that? | 0:23:39 | 0:23:41 | |
I think for some of the older people, | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
mentally, they're still young, they still want to laugh, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
they want to talk about the same things | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
and for people like Shirley and Sylvia, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
they've great personalities. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:50 | |
Shirley's got a really good sense of humour. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
She really enjoys chatting to people and having a laugh, | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
so getting out and having the opportunity to come here | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
and just interact, | 0:23:58 | 0:23:59 | |
it's what every person of all age needs. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
'Isolation is undoubtedly one of the biggest concerns | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
'facing elderly people | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
'and you can see how important clubs like this are to local residents.' | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
It's one of those services that if it wasn't for Doris volunteering, | 0:24:12 | 0:24:16 | |
making this whole thing happen, then it wouldn't happen. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
There would be no lunch club without volunteers like Debs | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
and the rest of them that are prepared to give up their time, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
in the middle of a working day, to come and do this. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
It wouldn't be happening. Shirley would be at home | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
for the rest of the day. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:33 | |
'Now, there's only one thing standing between these residents | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
'and their delicious roast dinner - me.' | 0:24:37 | 0:24:42 | |
Thank you. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:43 | |
-Swapsie. -We have a conveyor belt. -We have a conveyor belt going. | 0:24:45 | 0:24:50 | |
'So far, at least, everyone seems happy.' | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
Is the food always this nice? | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
Yeah. It looks amazing. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
Better than the roasties I make. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
-Nice. -Yeah? Is it tasty? | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
The meat looks nice. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:03 | |
We've got apple pie to go next | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
and I would imagine that the entire assembly | 0:25:08 | 0:25:11 | |
is going to want a cup of tea afterwards, as well. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
Ah! That's hot! | 0:25:14 | 0:25:15 | |
'It's a good job the pudding is in safe hands.' | 0:25:18 | 0:25:22 | |
Very important job, being in charge of custard. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
-It is. -You can't muck this up. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
What do you guys do on the days you don't come to lunch club? | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
What would you do if the lunch club wasn't here? | 0:25:30 | 0:25:32 | |
You know, that day... Get a sandwich or something. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
Get a sandwich. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:36 | |
-So this could be your only hot meal of the week. -Yes. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:40 | |
'Hot food and good company - what more could you want? | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
'Let's hope Doris, who helps deliver the service, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
'doesn't think I was completely useless.' | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
How did I do? | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
-Very well. -Really? -Excellent. You can be one of my volunteers now. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
That's it. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:54 | |
Shirley, how's she fitting in there? | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
She was all right. I mean, she's quiet, | 0:25:57 | 0:25:58 | |
but they're involving her in the conversation. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
-Yeah. -So, we're going to ask if we can get her down | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
to all the little sessions we do as well after lunch. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:07 | |
-This programme is about housing. -Yeah. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:09 | |
Obviously, this is not their bricks and mortar, | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
but it's an extension of that, isn't it? | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
Yes. It's fetching them out of their homes | 0:26:14 | 0:26:17 | |
-that, sometimes, they become isolated in. -Yeah. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
A lot of elderly people become ill because they're isolated. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
They don't mix, they don't socialise. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
Do you see a change in them when they come here | 0:26:28 | 0:26:29 | |
-over weeks and months? -Yeah. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
It's about having that little bit of continuity with them | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
and caring about them. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
I think sharing and caring is what it's about, really. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
What would you want? | 0:26:38 | 0:26:40 | |
Would you be wanting to sitting indoors with nobody to talk to? | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
No, not really. I'd want apple pie and custard. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
-Yeah. So, it's... -And a bit of a laugh! -Yeah, yeah. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
And you know, if you get the chance... | 0:26:49 | 0:26:50 | |
'That's the thumbs up from Doris. What do my customers make of it?' | 0:26:50 | 0:26:55 | |
Are you off? | 0:26:55 | 0:26:56 | |
Look at the speed! | 0:26:59 | 0:27:00 | |
He's done something to that scooter, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:02 | |
cos I've never seen one go quite that quickly. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:05 | |
I go to lunch club because I depend on it. | 0:27:05 | 0:27:07 | |
-Yeah. -Because then I can go home and relax and fall asleep | 0:27:07 | 0:27:10 | |
and make a sandwich for tea. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
So, knowing you've had one good meal during the day | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
means you don't have to worry so much about tea-time? | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
-Yeah. -And what about the company? How important is that? | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
Have you got family around you? | 0:27:21 | 0:27:22 | |
I've got family all around me, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
but then no-one lives with me, I'm on my own. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
-Right. -And I look forward to coming out for treats, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
like a dinner and things like that. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
-They're all going. -Yes. -Really nice to meet you. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
-Thanks for having me. -Thank you. -See you again. Bye-bye. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:40 | |
That's Dolly, the chair of the association. | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
-Hello, Dolly. How are you? -How old are you, Doll? Tell him. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
-How old are you? -91. -Are you? | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
-So, you're still the chair. -Yeah. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:48 | |
-Wow. -She's the honorary chair. -Fantastic. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
-Dolly, how was lunch today? -Beautiful, always is. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
-Did you get enough? -Yes. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:55 | |
'The regulars obviously really rate this place, | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
'but I'm wondering how our newest guest of honour got on.' | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
-Shirley, what did you think of that? Of lunch club? -All right. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:06 | |
-All right? -Yeah. -Just all right? | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
No, it was maybe great, it was good. | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
-Good. Out of ten? -Oh, I don't know. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
-More than ten. -More than ten?! -Wow. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
That's really good. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
Well, getting out, getting out of the house, innit? | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
And the menu? How was the food? | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
It was great. It was good. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:24 | |
-Apple pie? -Good. -Nice. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
You're willing to give it a crack? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:28 | |
-Yeah. -Peanuts can come down, as well. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
Yeah, well...he'll have your dinner! | 0:28:30 | 0:28:33 | |
LAUGHTER | 0:28:33 | 0:28:34 | |
No, he's not - very strict rules about that. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:37 | |
Very strict rules we have about that. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
Thanks for letting us tag along today. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
That's all right. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:42 | |
'I'm not surprised Shirley is a little bit overwhelmed by today | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
'and although we still didn't manage to provide her any cake, | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
'thanks to Grace and the team here, we did manage to show her | 0:28:49 | 0:28:52 | |
'that there's a place for both her and Sylvia | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
'where they're always welcome to meet new friends - | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
'can't be bad.' | 0:28:58 | 0:28:59 | |
-Bye. -Bye. -Bye, Shirley. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:02 | |
Bye. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:03 | |
Very nice people. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:05 | |
Anti-social behaviour. Three little words | 0:29:10 | 0:29:13 | |
that can mean a whole lot of trouble for tenants and housing officers. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
For tenants, it's no fun living next-door to noisy neighbours, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:21 | |
overgrown gardens, or having a collection of refuse | 0:29:21 | 0:29:24 | |
dumped unceremoniously on your doorstep, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
and for the housing officer, well, tackling anti-social behaviour | 0:29:27 | 0:29:32 | |
can mean having to play the role | 0:29:32 | 0:29:34 | |
of policeman, diplomat and counsellor all rolled into one. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:39 | |
Last year, UK housing officers | 0:29:42 | 0:29:44 | |
dealt with around 300,000 reported cases of anti-social behaviour | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
at a cost of £300 million. | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
But what happens when anti-social behaviour | 0:29:53 | 0:29:55 | |
forces you to become a prisoner in your own home? | 0:29:55 | 0:29:58 | |
In Newcastle, I'm with housing association officers | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
Chris O'Neil and Gary Scurfield. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:04 | |
We're on the way to meet tenants | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
who've had to put up | 0:30:06 | 0:30:07 | |
with years of abuse | 0:30:07 | 0:30:08 | |
and threats of violence from a neighbour - | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
a situation which has now reached crisis point. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
The perpetrator in this case, he's been given every opportunity. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
We, previously, instead of seeking possession of his property, | 0:30:19 | 0:30:23 | |
we actually obtained an injunction against him through the court | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
for his behaviour, so... | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
We've had the injunction against him. He's actually... | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
Behaviour stopped when the injunction was in place. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:32 | |
As soon as it ended, it began again. | 0:30:32 | 0:30:35 | |
So, now it's come to the point where we can't do anything else. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
That's it now, enough's enough. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
'The neighbour's four-year campaign of alcohol-fuelled harassment | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
'has left tenant Paul and his friend Dawn | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
'effectively trapped in the flat.' | 0:30:48 | 0:30:50 | |
So, you've reached the end of your tether, have you? | 0:30:50 | 0:30:53 | |
End of my tether. I've been telling them what's been happening. | 0:30:53 | 0:30:57 | |
Lately, we've had to get the police out on several occasions. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
Been standing at the back of the property, | 0:31:00 | 0:31:04 | |
trying to intimidate Dawn, trying to intimidate meself. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
-Threatened to poke Dawn's -BLEEP -eyes out. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:10 | |
Cos she's going through the change of life... | 0:31:10 | 0:31:12 | |
I'm going through the change, I've got to keep standing at the bathroom... | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
She was coming to the bathroom window for air, | 0:31:15 | 0:31:17 | |
and he got mortal drunk, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:19 | |
and then he was just stumbling around the square. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
And then he pointed up to the window and he says, | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
"If you stand there much longer, | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
"I'm going to come over there and poke your eyes out." | 0:31:28 | 0:31:30 | |
This is the most recent one, is it? | 0:31:30 | 0:31:32 | |
Does it ever go beyond threats? Is any other action? | 0:31:32 | 0:31:37 | |
You know, like damage, violence to people or to property. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
Or is it usually verbal and no more? | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
Just verbal and threatening what he's going to do and what he's not going to do. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
But he's never actually carried any of his threats out. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
But it's getting to the point where I am frightened to go out. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:54 | |
'All tenants have the right to feel safe and secure in their homes. | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
'But, for Paul, the impact of this anti-social behaviour | 0:32:00 | 0:32:03 | |
'could potentially be life-threatening.' | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
Cos I suffer from anxiety and depression. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
And I have a medibox. I don't have much medication. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
I've got chronic heart disease and an enlarged heart. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
I just get stressed, and I can't be doing with him. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
I've had enough of him. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:18 | |
Because we have got to sit here and just take his abuse. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
I mean, in a way, it's feels a bit like you are trapped in here. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
That's why I was starting to get sick of it | 0:32:25 | 0:32:27 | |
and thinking about moving. | 0:32:27 | 0:32:28 | |
'The situation is creating misery and fear. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:32 | |
'Not just for Paul and Dawn - | 0:32:32 | 0:32:33 | |
'now other tenants are demanding to be rehoused. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
'But Chris has some news.' | 0:32:37 | 0:32:38 | |
An update of where we are at now. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
-I took the statement off you last time. -Aye. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
All the statements have been produced, | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
and we have actually served notice on this individual | 0:32:45 | 0:32:49 | |
to end his tenancy. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:50 | |
All right. That notice has just expired. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
Following that, we have then applied to court. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
The court papers are in. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
All we are waiting for now is a date from the court | 0:32:56 | 0:32:58 | |
to go for the full hearing to get possession. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
So, that's what we are applying for. For possession for the property. | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
I know you were saying you were looking at moving. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:04 | |
We hope, in a couple of weeks, you won't have to | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
cos we are resolving that situation. | 0:33:06 | 0:33:08 | |
-Oh, that would be great. -Yeah? | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
'A possession order on the neighbour's flat | 0:33:10 | 0:33:12 | |
'hopefully means the threats will disappear, | 0:33:12 | 0:33:15 | |
'along with the troublesome tenant. | 0:33:15 | 0:33:16 | |
'It sounds like it can't come a moment too soon | 0:33:16 | 0:33:19 | |
'for Paul and Dawn.' | 0:33:19 | 0:33:21 | |
He just comes to his window, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:23 | |
lifts his net up and his window's wide open, shouting... | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
-"I'm surrounded." -"I'm surrounded. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:27 | |
"I've got a bomb. I'm going to blow yous all up. | 0:33:27 | 0:33:30 | |
"Just watch, before I leave. I'm going to get yous. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:33 | |
"I'll get yous." | 0:33:33 | 0:33:34 | |
Once the problem of your neighbour is removed, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
are you happy to stay here? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:38 | |
-In this tenancy, yeah? -Oh, aye. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:42 | |
Right, we're moving forward. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
Obviously, you know, you know where we're at now. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
We're quite a way down the process | 0:33:46 | 0:33:48 | |
to try and get things finalised for you to get, you know, | 0:33:48 | 0:33:50 | |
the highest level of enforcement we can do, pretty much, in there. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:53 | |
So if you feel threatened, make the police aware, as you do. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:58 | |
Also, you know, housing issue, if you feel anything else, | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
contact us, as well, and we'll pick up on that. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
Thanks for your time. We'll finalise it. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
I'll be in touch next week for some updates. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
When I get a relevant date back for the court, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
I'll let you know, all right? | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
'The list of anti-social behaviour and intimidation | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
'that Paul and Dawn have had to endure | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
'is some of the worst I've come across | 0:34:17 | 0:34:19 | |
'in my time working with housing officers. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:22 | |
'I'm hoping that Chris and Gary's visit today | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
'will put their minds at ease.' | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
-What did you think of that? -I think it was good. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
I'm pleased there's action being taken. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
It's only taken 11 years, | 0:34:32 | 0:34:33 | |
but at least they're getting somewhere now. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
You were about ready to move out yourself? | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
Oh, aye. I was going to be off this afternoon | 0:34:37 | 0:34:40 | |
to fill the forms in just to move out of here. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
I was seeking that out, because I am that sick of him. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
I'm depressed. I didn't want to see him. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:50 | |
He was trying to get us to bite, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
and when we're not biting, he's getting more and more agitated. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
And the more he thinks he can shout abuse at me. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
And he thinks he gets away with it. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:00 | |
I'm not letting him get away with nothing now. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
It's almost like he's declared war on everybody... | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
-Everybody. -..that's living here. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:06 | |
It's not just you guys. | 0:35:06 | 0:35:07 | |
And the constant abuse of alcohol. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
Seven days a week. Night and day. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
And smoking drugs on top of it. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:14 | |
It's obviously doing something with your brain. | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
And it's making him... | 0:35:17 | 0:35:18 | |
He's getting more and more and more paranoid all the time. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
It seems bizarre, though, that this is one person | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
-that's causing all this upset for... -Everybody. | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
However many houses there are. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
So you are now looking at a situation where, hopefully, | 0:35:29 | 0:35:32 | |
within a matter of weeks, he should be out. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
-Yeah. -Does that give you complete confidence? | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
Are you happy with that? | 0:35:38 | 0:35:40 | |
Once he's out... Once he's out of the square, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:43 | |
and we don't see him on a day-to-day basis, | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
then it's going to be a lot nicer and pleasanter, | 0:35:46 | 0:35:48 | |
not just for us, but everyone. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:49 | |
Well, listen, I hope it gets sorted out for you quickly | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
and it's obviously had a big effect on you. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:55 | |
But I hope it manages to get itself sorted out, | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
and you can carry on living here. | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
'It's been a tough day for Chris and Gary | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
'and it's clearly been a long process for the housing association. | 0:36:05 | 0:36:09 | |
'Despite working with the police to tackle the anti-social behaviour, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
'and offering support to the residents, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:15 | |
'the stress for Paul and Dawn remains.' | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
I mean, it felt like a sort of litany, didn't it, | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
of events over the last 11 years for poor old Paul there. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
And it gave the picture that this is a guy | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
who has basically declared war on the rest of the estate there. | 0:36:29 | 0:36:32 | |
It certainly has been like that. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:34 | |
There's, I would say, specifically, the last four years | 0:36:34 | 0:36:37 | |
where there's been a lot of problems | 0:36:37 | 0:36:39 | |
and we have tried to keep this individual in his property. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:44 | |
In the end, it all seems to backfire and doesn't work. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
I suppose the acid test | 0:36:47 | 0:36:48 | |
is when you're starting to get other people leaving | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
and requesting to be re-homed. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:53 | |
With all the effort that that takes, all the disruption to their lives, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
at some point, you've got to draw a line, haven't you? | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
Paul himself was saying, you know, he would have been off | 0:36:59 | 0:37:01 | |
if it had gone on any longer. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:02 | |
So, you're disrupting a community there because of one. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
Because of one individual, yeah. | 0:37:05 | 0:37:06 | |
And, you know, you've got to take into account | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
everyone else's circumstances. their needs are more, | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
compared to one person's actions and behaviour, haven't you? | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
We've got to stop that. You know, can't go on any longer. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:16 | |
We didn't manage to meet the gentleman himself, | 0:37:16 | 0:37:19 | |
which would have been a rare pleasure(!) | 0:37:19 | 0:37:20 | |
But, you know, maybe another time. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:23 | |
And keep us posted on what happens, yeah? | 0:37:23 | 0:37:25 | |
-Yeah, will do. -Good stuff. -Thank you. | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
'Eviction is, of course, the last resort, | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
'and it will be up to the court to decide, ultimately, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
'whether the tenant will be evicted. | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
'But I hope, for the neighbours' sake, | 0:37:35 | 0:37:37 | |
'something is done.' | 0:37:37 | 0:37:38 | |
Well, that was a particularly difficult case | 0:37:40 | 0:37:43 | |
for Gary and Chris to tackle. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:44 | |
Fortunately, anti-social behaviour on that scale is rare. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
But effects on neighbouring residents can be severe. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:51 | |
Isos is continuing to work alongside those tenants affected | 0:37:51 | 0:37:54 | |
to help bring the situation to a satisfying conclusion | 0:37:54 | 0:37:58 | |
for everyone concerned. | 0:37:58 | 0:37:59 | |
In Stroud, tenant Jim is having to leave the flat | 0:38:06 | 0:38:09 | |
that's been his home for 57 years | 0:38:09 | 0:38:11 | |
and move into a two-bedroom bungalow. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
I never thought we'd ever move, but that's how it happens. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
Jim's been packing up more than just furniture. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
There's a lifetime of memories here, too. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
You think, "I've been here 57 years" - | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
it's a long time, isn't it? | 0:38:26 | 0:38:27 | |
It's housing officer Chris's job | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
to ensure everything goes smoothly. | 0:38:30 | 0:38:32 | |
The thing with Jim is that he's been a tenant with us | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
for a long time, over 50 years. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
Since he was 11. And he... | 0:38:38 | 0:38:41 | |
He needs to move because the Queen's Court | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
is no longer economically viable, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
and also, it's not that accessible a building | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
in terms of being away from amenities, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:52 | |
and also, because he's on the first floor, | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
it's not so easy with him with his bad knee. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:57 | |
So, having a bungalow suits him really well. | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
We do realise that people moving home is a stressful event. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
It's one thing when you choose to move home, | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
but when you're being asked to move | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
because the property is no longer suitable, | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
then obviously it's a bigger thing for people. | 0:39:09 | 0:39:12 | |
Jim has what is known as a secure tenancy | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
and that guarantees him a home for life, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:18 | |
as long as he doesn't break his tenancy rules. | 0:39:18 | 0:39:21 | |
As it wasn't his choice to leave his former flat, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
Jim's has been offered a home loss payment of £5,000 | 0:39:24 | 0:39:27 | |
plus carpets, curtains and removal costs... | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
Let's see if this is the key. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:33 | |
..all of which should hopefully cushion the blow. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:35 | |
So with everything he needs to make the move, | 0:39:37 | 0:39:39 | |
it is time for Jim to open the door to his new life. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
First impressions, positive. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
It's great. That will be ideal, this one. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
Be nice when the carpets are all down tomorrow. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
It'll make a lot of difference, won't it? | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
Yeah, I'm really pleased with it. It's very good. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
I didn't know they were going to put a new kitchen in. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
Over the moon with that, it's really great. | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
Done a good job, actually. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
Really nice. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:13 | |
It looks like Jim is keen to get settled in as soon as possible. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
I'm measuring for the cooker, actually, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:20 | |
cos I had a gas cooker, which... | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
I couldn't bring it. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:24 | |
So I've ordered a new electric cooker, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
and it should definitely go in. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
There's more good news in the bathroom. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:32 | |
This is what I wanted, was a wet room, to be quite honest. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
I didn't want a bath. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
This is great. It's ideal. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
Really good. Really quite pleased with that. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
With Jim settling in... | 0:40:46 | 0:40:47 | |
..housing officer Chris wants to see how he's getting on. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
See who this is. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
-Hello, Jim. How are you? -I'm good, how are you? -Yeah, fine. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
I just wondered how you found it all, coming in? | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
-Yeah. -I brought some... | 0:41:00 | 0:41:01 | |
-That's the carpet? -Brought some carpet for you. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
-That's the hessian you picked. -Yeah. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
Just wondering how you're feeling about the whole thing, really. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
I think it's very good. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:09 | |
They've done... The decorating's excellent. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
Yeah, we've decorated it all, haven't we? Which was nice. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
It was a little bit ropey when we first looked, | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
so we've got that organised for you. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:17 | |
This is a nice, big room, so it should fit all your furniture | 0:41:17 | 0:41:20 | |
from your old place, which is great. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
I know some of those had sentimental value for you. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:25 | |
Yeah, it was sentimental. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:26 | |
The inside is looking good. What about the outside space? | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
Yeah, so, Jim, this is your new back garden. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
We've already got some nice shrubs here, haven't we? | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
You can hang your washing out up there, so you're all right. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
I can cut that. I can get a little mower. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
Just a little one. That's not going to take too long. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
I think this'll be nice. I mean, it's a nice, quiet area. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:50 | |
Do you know this area? You knew this area anyway, didn't you? | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
I know the woman up there. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:54 | |
I think this is a really decent-sized bungalow. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:56 | |
Be nice not having to walk up stairs. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:58 | |
-Yeah, I think that'd be better for you, won't it? -Yeah. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
'We're really pleased, as a council, | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
'that we've found a really nice bungalow for Jim.' | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
Because he's been with us for over 50 years, been a very good tenant, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
always paid his rent, keeps the house immaculate, | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
and that's really, really good. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
I'm really, really pleased that he's happy. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
Moving home is never easy, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:19 | |
especially after having to say goodbye to a place | 0:42:19 | 0:42:21 | |
with so many happy memories. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
Thanks to Chris and the council, | 0:42:23 | 0:42:25 | |
this new place is hopefully the beginning | 0:42:25 | 0:42:27 | |
of a new set of happy memories for Jim. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
Good luck, then, Jim, with the next steps. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:32 | |
-Cheers. -All the best. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
Well, as we've just seen, | 0:42:39 | 0:42:41 | |
being a housing officer | 0:42:41 | 0:42:42 | |
means a daily dose of tough choices and difficult decisions. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:46 | |
But it's all in a day's work for the men and women | 0:42:46 | 0:42:49 | |
fighting to ensure we can enjoy a safe place to call home. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 | |
That's it for today, but join me again next time | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
where I'll be back on the front line | 0:42:55 | 0:42:57 | |
with the housing enforcers. | 0:42:57 | 0:42:59 |