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I've had an interesting life. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
Coal miner, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
forklift truck driver, | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
bricklayer, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:08 | |
factory production line worker, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
fireman. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:11 | |
I've lived rough on the streets of London and Paris. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
But now I've got a new job. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
As a Queen's Counsel barrister, | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
I know the law inside out. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
I've prosecuted and defended | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
some of the UK's most serious criminals, | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
but the life I've led means I know the world can be a tough place. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:37 | |
At some points, we've all felt ripped off, | 0:00:39 | 0:00:42 | |
cheated or conned. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
It's frustrating, costly and stressful. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:47 | |
But I know consumers can fight back and get justice. | 0:00:47 | 0:00:51 | |
I'm not here to represent anyone. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
But what I want is to empower you | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
to use the law to get what you are owed. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
'Today I'll be helping a mother who believed she was misled | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
'into wasting £1,500 on a worthless modelling portfolio.' | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
-It's two tacky pieces of paper. -Exactly. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
With names and e-mail addresses on. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:16 | |
But first a narrow-boater whose dreams of a new life | 0:01:16 | 0:01:19 | |
on the waterway were shattered. | 0:01:19 | 0:01:21 | |
I was told to leave the marina immediately. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:24 | |
I'm going to help both of these women | 0:01:24 | 0:01:26 | |
work out how they've been cheated | 0:01:26 | 0:01:28 | |
and show them how they can use the law | 0:01:28 | 0:01:30 | |
to get back what they're owed. | 0:01:30 | 0:01:32 | |
There are 2,000 miles of canals and rivers in the UK | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
used by over 34,000 boats. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
And the proud owner of one of them is Sue Williams. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:47 | |
She is a civil engineer from Surrey and she loves narrow boats. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
Narrow-boating is a way of life. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:57 | |
It's the independence. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
You just choose where you want to live and how you want to live it. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
When circumstances changed in her personal life, | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
Sue decided to make a whole new start. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
She sold her house in Surrey | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
and used the money to buy her very own narrow boat, My Lady. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
It was going to be a big step, but I like challenges. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:22 | |
Sue's plan was to live aboard her boat full-time, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
so she needed to find a permanent mooring to give her a base. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:29 | |
Fully equipped marinas offer mains water, electricity | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
and wi-fi broadband. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:33 | |
But there's a shortage of good moorings, | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
and many of the best marinas have a long waiting list. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
So Sue was thrilled when she found an ad for a brand-new | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
state-of-the-art marina called Barby Moorings Ltd. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
There was going to be a restaurant, cafe, shop, chandlery. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:54 | |
And I thought, "This will work out well." | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
Sue is a keen gardener, and when she read that | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
there would be bank-side moorings with garden plots available | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
it made the marina look even more attractive. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
The site was still being developed, so she paid £400-deposit | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
to secure her place for when it was done. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
And, as her plot was to have a garden, | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
she put all her garden furniture into storage. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
But, as the months went past, the project was continually delayed. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:23 | |
Eventually, Sue was promised | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
the marina would be ready by the autumn of 2011. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
Full of hope and anticipation, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
she set out on the 100-mile trip to move her boat to its new home. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
At every stage, she was reassured by the marina owner | 0:03:37 | 0:03:41 | |
that everything would be finished in time for her arrival. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:44 | |
But, when she finally arrived, Sue's heart sank. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
The marina was like a minefield. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
It was just steel coming out of the ground. | 0:03:56 | 0:04:00 | |
I had nothing. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
Sue now realised that the facilities promised | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
on the Barby Moorings website just weren't there. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:11 | |
I just thought, "God! What have I done?!" | 0:04:13 | 0:04:18 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:04:18 | 0:04:19 | |
"What have I done?" | 0:04:19 | 0:04:20 | |
The next morning, Sue went to complain to site owner Tony McMaster. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
She was in for her second shock. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
He said, "Get out of my marina!" | 0:04:33 | 0:04:36 | |
And he wouldn't say anything else, just, "Get out, get out." | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
Came round the table and physically intimidated me | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
out of the door. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
Because there were no facilities and she'd been evicted, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:50 | |
Sue's new life at Barby Moorings was over. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
She was now homeless with nowhere to moor her boat. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
It still upsets me. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
This was a new start for me, literally. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
You know, my whole future went in just that one thing he said - | 0:05:08 | 0:05:14 | |
"Get out!" | 0:05:14 | 0:05:15 | |
Sue has now found a new berth for My Lady | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
on another marina, but she wants Barby Moorings | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
to refund her all the money she spent moving her boat. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
Sue clearly feels she was misled by the advertising of Barby Moorings | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
and, as the facilities that were promised weren't there, | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
it's not difficult to see her point. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
In law, if a company makes you promises, | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
they should keep to them or face the consequences. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
I'll be seeing Sue later to help her with her case. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:44 | |
Brighton, home to mother and daughter Nicki and Jan Koutris. | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
My name's Nicki, I'm 20. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
My mum's called Jan. | 0:05:58 | 0:05:59 | |
Nicki's my first-born. | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
We go out together sometimes. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
We go shopping together and coffee together. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:06 | |
When Nicki was on the lookout for work, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
she came across a website called Candi Models. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
They said they had experts in modelling | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
who could help you become a model. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
Nicki followed the instructions on the site | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
and sent Candi Models a photograph of herself. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
She was soon called back with some good news. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
They phoned me one morning. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
They said I was stunning, very photogenic, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
and they said I had been selected | 0:06:33 | 0:06:36 | |
out of about 700 people. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
They wanted me to go up to London. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
Nicki and Jan were invited to an address in North London | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
for a test shoot at a company called Mint Brown Studios. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
We were seen quite quickly. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:54 | |
Nicki was made up and she worked very well with the photographer. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:58 | |
He kept saying I was doing really well, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:00 | |
giving me really good feedback. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:02 | |
After the shoot, Nicki and Jan | 0:07:07 | 0:07:08 | |
were shown the photos by a female member of staff. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
She said, "I'm pleased to tell you you've passed." | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
I was just so shocked that they thought I could be a model. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
She made me believe that I stood out from the rest | 0:07:19 | 0:07:24 | |
and that I had a really good chance of becoming a big model. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:28 | |
And then came the shock. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
Jan was told that if Nicki wanted to be a model | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
she'd need to pay for an extensive portfolio of photographs. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:41 | |
I hadn't gone with the intention of buying anything. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
They offered Jan a portfolio, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
an online version they called a "webfolio" | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
and a £400-list of modelling agencies. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:53 | |
Making a total of £1,800. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
My heart sank. I had so much anxiety, | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
I was thinking, "This is a lot of money, my mum can't afford it." | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
It was what the sales assistant said next | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
that led Jan to make a decision. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
What she actually said that sold it to me... | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
was that the minimum amount of money that you can make | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
per assignment is £1,000. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
And we gasped. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
I was thinking that | 0:08:24 | 0:08:26 | |
the money that my mum was going to pay out for all these photos | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
and portfolio and everything, I could earn back easily | 0:08:29 | 0:08:33 | |
with just a couple of photo shoots. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
That's what sold it to me. On the spot, like that. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
And I fell for it. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
Nicki soon started to apply to the agents on the list | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
her mother had bought. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
One of the first agents she contacted | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
called her in for a chat to look at Nicki's photos. | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
And he looked at them, at the photographs, | 0:08:56 | 0:09:01 | |
and he said, | 0:09:01 | 0:09:03 | |
"You've been to Mint Brown Studios, Candi Models." | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
And he said, basically, we've been scammed. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
My stomach sank. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
He said that he would have preferred for me | 0:09:17 | 0:09:20 | |
to have taken some snapshots at home and just sent those photos. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:23 | |
I feel embarrassed | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
that I've allowed myself to be taken in like this. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
They lied to us, and to our faces | 0:09:37 | 0:09:41 | |
to get all this money out of us, and it's just worthless. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
Jan is so unhappy she wants her money back. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:49 | |
The reason I want every single penny | 0:09:49 | 0:09:51 | |
from Candi Models/Mint Brown | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
it's because it's based on a lie. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
And I don't want to give a penny of my money | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
to something that's a complete scam. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
Jan is clearly upset that she's been persuaded to buy something | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
based on the promises of the salesperson | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
that she now feels were misleading. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
If she wants to get her money back she may need to prove that, | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
and later I'll be there to help her. | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
Back now to Sue Williams, | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
who spent most of her savings moving her narrow boat to a new marina | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
she thought had a whole host of mod cons. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
Only it didn't. | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
Sue feels she was made promises by the owner that were misleading | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
and now wants her money back. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
I need to know more about what Sue thought | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
she was getting for her money. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
'I'm hoping that, with my advice and help, | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
'Sue can resolve this problem for herself, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
'and maybe get some money back.' | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
-Sue, Gary Bell. -Hi, Gary. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
This is what they call a narrow boat, then, is it? | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
Shall we go on board and get out of the wind, Gary? | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
-Do you think I'll fit on that, Sue? -Mind your head. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
It's not my height I'm worried about, Sue, it's my width. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
You'll be fine, breathe in. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:13 | |
This is lovely, Sue, isn't it? | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
-Yup. -There's plenty of height. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:16 | |
-Yes, it's not too bad. -You have a nice little galley here. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:19 | |
-I have. -Just like any other kitchen. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
'Before I get carried away | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
'and talk myself into moving on to a narrow boat, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
'I think I should find out for myself exactly | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
'what happened to Sue at Barby Moorings.' | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
So you decided you were going to sell your house... | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
-Yup. -..and buy a boat. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
-Yup. -And live on the boat? | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
-Yup. -With all the freedom that entails? | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
Yes. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
And you looked for a perfect place to moor your boat. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
-I did. -And it was cheaper to live in the Midlands | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
-than it was in London. -Yup. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
So you found this place in Barby | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
-that promised the Earth and more. -Yes. | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
'Sue has kept copies of the original advertising leaflets | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
'put out by Barby Moorings, | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
'and it certainly looks like a blissful place to live.' | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
-Was there a laundrette? -No. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
-Were there showers? -No. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
-Was there pump-out? -Just about. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
-Diesel? -Yes. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
-Wired internet? -No. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
-Wired Freeview TV? -No. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
-Electrical power? -12 hours a day. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
-So not quite as described? -No. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
So, presumably, you had a word with Mr McMaster about the fact | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
that the facilities were far less than had been promised? | 0:12:25 | 0:12:27 | |
I didn't even get an apology, nothing. | 0:12:27 | 0:12:30 | |
-Nothing from him at all? -No, all he wanted was his money. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:33 | |
After she was evicted from the marina, | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
Sue received a letter from the owner, Tony McMaster, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:41 | |
claiming he'd been forced to evict her | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
because she'd breached his terms and conditions | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
during their argument in his office. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
"On the afternoon of the 11th November, | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
"at the office of the company, | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
"within the bounds of the company property, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
"your use of offensive language, threatening behaviour..." | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
which is misspelt, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
"..and attempted physical violence towards an officer of the company | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
"constitutes a serious, irremediable breach of licence. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
"The company terminates the license forthwith, | 0:13:09 | 0:13:12 | |
"and you are required to remove the vessel | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
"from the marina immediately." | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
I'm very surprised, Sue. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:17 | |
I mean, I've met you today, and you seem as nice as pie, but... | 0:13:17 | 0:13:20 | |
-SHE LAUGHS -..to know that your physical violence, | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
your threatening behaviour, your offensive language... | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
-There's clearly a dark side to you(!) -Yeah! | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
'Joking aside, Sue denies that she acted in this way. | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
'She says she is now seriously out of pocket | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
'and wants to claim back all the costs she's incurred in the move. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
'The main elements of the claim are | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
'£400 for the deposit, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
'£300 for the fuel to bring her boat to Barby, | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
'and there is also £1,496 for the storage of garden equipment | 0:13:51 | 0:13:57 | |
'that Sue planned to use on the bank side plot | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
'once she was settled in. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:01 | |
'In total, she's claiming £2,648 - | 0:14:01 | 0:14:06 | |
'well within the small claims limit.' | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
'Sue has already sent numerous letters | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
'requesting a refund from Barby Moorings, and got nowhere.' | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
I think the important thing is to write him a letter before action, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:23 | |
explaining to him what it is that you're claiming off him. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
-Yeah. -And explaining that you will go to court | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
if he doesn't pay up within 14 days. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
'The first step on the road to getting her money back | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
'is to notify Barby Moorings that she means business. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:40 | |
'Then, set a deadline and give them every chance to pay up. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
'This is something that every claimant must do.' | 0:14:43 | 0:14:47 | |
'Sue's letter needs to clearly explain | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
'why and what she is claiming, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:52 | |
'and how she's calculated these figures.' | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
'With any luck, Tony McMaster will read this | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
'and pay Sue Williams what she believes he has cost her.' | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
'I'll be back to see Sue when the deadline is up.' | 0:15:04 | 0:15:06 | |
Jan Koutris thought she was investing in a modelling portfolio | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
to start her daughter's career on the advice of Candi Models. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
Only she soon discovered that | 0:15:23 | 0:15:24 | |
the portfolio she'd been sold by Mint Brown Studios | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
wasn't what any modelling agency was looking for. | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
Before I go to meet Jan, I need to do some research | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
into whether there's a link between Candi Models and Mint Brown Studios. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
A good place to start is to find out if they share any directors. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
Here's Candi Models, incorporated on the 20th of May, 2011, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:55 | |
registered at an address in Henley-on-Thames. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
Next, Mint Brown Studios. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
Well, surprise, surprise. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
It was incorporated on the same date, registered at the same address | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
in Henley-on-Thames by the same director, Nicholas Wood. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:11 | |
So, Candi Models and Mint Brown Studios | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
are both run by the same person, | 0:16:16 | 0:16:17 | |
and operate out of the same converted North London warehouse. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:21 | |
I think I'd better go and see Jan. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
By approaching this from a lawyer's perspective, | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
I may be able to help Jan prove that she was misled | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
and, therefore, she is entitled to get her money back. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
-Hi, Jan. -Hello. -Gary Bell. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
How many pictures have you got? | 0:16:40 | 0:16:42 | |
We were told we needed 200 for a portfolio. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
Is that right? | 0:16:45 | 0:16:46 | |
So you spend all this money on these very nice photographs | 0:16:46 | 0:16:49 | |
of your very beautiful daughter, | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
but they're utterly pointless to launch her as a model. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
Absolutely. Yeah. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
You don't need hundreds of photographs. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:57 | |
You don't even need 50 photographs for a portfolio to be a model. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
All I needed, really, was a few photographs taken at home. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
So, in terms of launching a modelling career for Nicki, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
the portfolio, the web folio, the photographs, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
-and the list of modelling agencies is worthless? -Worthless. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:14 | |
So these magic beans are not going to grow into a beanstalk? | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Unfortunately, no. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:19 | |
'Jan wants a complete refund. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
'That's £50 for the refundable deposit, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
'£400 for the list of modelling agencies, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
'and £1,350 for the portfolio, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
'making a total of £1,800. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:33 | |
'I need to help Jan work out how she can get it.' | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
Right, let's have a look at the paperwork and see what caused | 0:17:36 | 0:17:40 | |
-you to pay £1,800 to Mint Brown Studios, London. -OK. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
There isn't really much paperwork, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
but what Jan does have is quite revealing. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
This is an exclusive list of modelling agencies | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
-that she was going to sell you for £400. -Yeah. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
It's two tatty pieces of paper. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
-Exactly. -With names and... | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
And this is the information that Mint Brown Studios gave you | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
when you booked to go up for the day, is that right? | 0:18:05 | 0:18:07 | |
-Yes, it was, yeah. -Well, let's have a look at what that says, then. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
-It's what they sent to us after paying the initial £50. -Wonderful. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
"Thank you for choosing Candi Models to help | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
"start your career in the modelling world. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
But the amazing opportunity is only given | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
to a handful of successful candidates that have passed | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
their selection process. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
So you thought that was an audition | 0:18:24 | 0:18:25 | |
to see whether or not Nicki was going to be a model? | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
Absolutely. 100%. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:29 | |
-With Candi Models? -Yes. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:30 | |
The thing that sold it to me, the one thing, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
all the time I was thinking, "I can't afford it, can't afford it." | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
And then, all of a sudden, she came up with another thing, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
a sales ploy, the minimum that you can earn per casting is £1,000. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:45 | |
I thought, "A couple of castings, three castings, | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
-"I'll get my money back, and then she'll..." -You're in profit. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
Yeah, exactly. And that's what sold it to me. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
You know what they say, if it sounds too good to be true... | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
-It probably isn't! -It probably isn't. -And it wasn't. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
'This is the key to her claim - | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
'Jan thought her daughter Nicki was being auditioned | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
'for a lucrative job as a model, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
'not just out to buy some nice pictures, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
'and the paperwork has given me an insight | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
'into what is actually going on here.' | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
The £400 model agency list that you're given, | 0:19:16 | 0:19:19 | |
and the £1,350 that you paid for the photographs | 0:19:19 | 0:19:24 | |
is all paid to Mint Brown. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
Who was the booking fee paid to? Do you know? | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
That was paid to Mint Brown. | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
-So, even the £50 booking fee was paid to Mint Brown? -Yeah. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
Candi Models is the trap that Mint Brown sets | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
to entice young girls to come with their parents | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
-and cough up. -Absolutely. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
I'm now convinced that Jan has a good case to ask for her refund, | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
because she was misled by the salesperson | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
and the product she bought isn't fit for purpose. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
First step is for Jan to simply call | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
and ask one last time for her money back. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
I always think it's a good idea to ask in person - | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
that is, if you can get through. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
It's busy. User busy. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
So, you've tried to call them now about ten times, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
-and every time the phone's busy. -Yes. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:11 | |
Can't get through. | 0:20:11 | 0:20:12 | |
So, what we have to do is to write to them | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
-what we call a letter before action. -OK. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
'Because Jan can't contact them by phone, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
'her only option is a letter before action. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
'It will be the first the studio know of her wanting a refund. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
'She must say who she is and what she spent. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
'She must also explain why she feels she was mis-sold the product, | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
'mentioning the promise of "£1,000 per casting". | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
'Lastly, she must say that she wants a refund within 14 days. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:45 | |
'If this goes to court, a letter giving a deadline is vital.' | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
Writing this letter is the first step | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
along the road to getting this money back, | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
but it may mean that you have to go to court eventually to get it. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
Jan paid £1,800 for what, in effect, is a useless portfolio. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:07 | |
She wants Mint Brown to pay the money back, and so do I. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
My name is Gary Bell, and as a QC I spend most of my working life | 0:21:12 | 0:21:17 | |
dealing with major court cases. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
But I haven't always been a barrister. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
I've known some tough times, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
and now I want to use my knowledge of the law to help others. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:28 | |
I want to show you how you can use the courts to recover your money. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
Sue Williams thought she was moving her narrow boat to Barby Moorings, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
a newly built marina advertised as having the latest facilities. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:44 | |
Only, when she got there, it wasn't. | 0:21:44 | 0:21:46 | |
So far, I've helped Sue draft a letter asking for all | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
the costs involved in her pointless move to be paid back. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
Sue told me she first read about Barby Moorings on a leaflet, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
but they also have a website. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
It looks great. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
There's the bank-side mooring where Sue was going to create her garden. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
Here's a list of facilities that were promised. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
When Sue originally saw the website, | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
it said the facilities were there already, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:18 | |
so she was happy to pay her deposit. | 0:22:18 | 0:22:20 | |
The website has clearly changed. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
Whenever a company changes its advertising, | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
it's worth checking to see if this is because | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
they've been investigated by the Advertising Standards Authority. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
Here's their website. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
And, yes, there's an adjudication about the facilities | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
advertised by Barby Moorings. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
Someone, apart from Sue Williams, complained. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:44 | |
The ASA agreed and told Barby Moorings to amend their website | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
and only claim for what was actually available, | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
and that's exactly what they've done. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
So, Barby Moorings were falsely advertising their facilities, | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
which will be useful to Sue in her claim - | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
it shows that other people have also complained about Barby Moorings. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:07 | |
Sue wasn't the only person taken in by their broken promises. | 0:23:07 | 0:23:10 | |
This is the 61-foot narrow boat Vital Spark. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
And her skipper, Frank Watts. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
I bought it soon after my wife died. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
I got it as a bare shell and over the following years | 0:23:25 | 0:23:31 | |
I fitted it out completely to the state it is today. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:34 | |
Frank was looking for a marina in the Midlands, | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
and when he found Barby Moorings it was just what he wanted. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
Frank moved Vital Spark up to the marina, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
and that's when the trouble started. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
The first surprise to me | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
was that the electricity was only available for 12 hours a day. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:59 | |
Frank was then told by the owners that he must move his boat | 0:24:01 | 0:24:04 | |
to another part of the marina. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
I found myself in an... | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
I don't quite know how to describe it, | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
it was just a pond of water and no moor. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:15 | |
I couldn't get on and off of the boat easily. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:18 | |
When I used the length of staging that they provided | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
it damaged the boat. I was extremely unhappy with it. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
It simply was not what I was either expecting, | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
what I had paid for, or where I was prepared to leave my boat | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
which represents a fair investment for me. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
Frank left Barby Moorings and wrote to ask for a refund. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
He got a response to his second letter, but not with a refund. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:49 | |
A further bill from him for an additional £250, | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
because I hadn't given my 13 weeks notice to him. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:57 | |
Frank has now resorted to court action to recover his money. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
I'm sad because... | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
it was so unnecessary. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:08 | |
Unlike Frank, when Sue left Barby Moorings | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
she ended up in an argument with Tony McMaster. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
But I think it's important to be dispassionate | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
about who said what to who, even if things did get a little heated. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
When Dave Gartland and his partner, Liz, heard about Barby Moorings, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:28 | |
they thought they'd found just the type of mooring they were looking for. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
We had explained to Tony McMaster | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
that we had very specific needs from the marina. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
The reason being, I'm a bilateral amputee, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
so I've lost both my legs, and Tony McMaster assured us | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
that the pontoons that he was building | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
were going to be wider than the average, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
they would fit our requirements exactly. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
This was great news for Dave. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:55 | |
The new marina would cater perfectly for his special needs, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
but when he got there he discovered that the promises were false. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:02 | |
There was no pontoon that had been described to us that would be | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
suitable for me with my disability to get on and off the boat. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Instead, we were put on a bank-side mooring that actually was only | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
a very small pontoon fore and aft on the boat with nothing in the middle. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:21 | |
A big gap of about six foot between the boats, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
so I couldn't even get access to the side doors. | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
When Dave e-mailed Tony McMaster, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
he replied, telling him to remove his boat from the marina. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
When he went back to get it, he was presented with yet another bill. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
When I said, "I'm sorry, I'm not paying it," | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
he became very, very aggressive. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:44 | |
He made an aggressive move towards my partner. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
He had to be restrained with a hand across his chest by his partner. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:52 | |
It was just the sheer threat of violence in his voice. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:57 | |
Dave and his partner were clearly very upset, | 0:27:01 | 0:27:03 | |
and it does chime with Sue's story. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
But, as a QC, I see allegations of threatening behaviour | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
every day in the criminal courts. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
I think in the civil courts it can get in the way of the real issues. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
My advice to Sue is to focus on her claim for money | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
and not get sidetracked. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:18 | |
I believe Sue has a straightforward case. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
The facilities at Barby were far from what was promised | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
and we can show that the ASA ruled that the website was misleading. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
Sue's done everything she can to reclaim her money. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
She wrote to him and heard nothing, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
and now the deadline she gave him to pay up has passed. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
I think the only course of action left for Sue now is to go to court. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
To start Sue's claim, she simply needs to fill in a form. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
I've already downloaded and printed a copy for Sue, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
but she could fill it in online | 0:27:52 | 0:27:54 | |
or get one at her local court or Citizen's Advice Bureau. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
Well, Sue, this is your claim, so, if you can fill it in. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
First you put your name, now, that's "Sue Williams". | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
See, I'm helping you every step of the way(!) | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
And next are the defendants. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
Shall I put Barby or McMaster? | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
Did you have a contract with McMaster or with Barby? | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
-Barby. -Barby Moorings Ltd. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
Next is the claim itself. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:22 | |
In Sue's case, the key points are that none of the promised | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
facilities were available and that she was unfairly evicted. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
And we make sure that we show that he breached | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
-the contract by unreasonably throwing you off the site. -OK. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:36 | |
Once the value of the claim and all the key dates | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
and events are added, the form can be sent in to the court. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
There is a small fee to pay, but it's added to the claim as a cost. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
Right, Sue, let's get this thing posted | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
-and then we can get your money back. -Okey-doke. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:51 | |
Once Sue's claim is received by the court, | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
they will notify Tony McMaster. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
-So, Sue, this has been a very sad episode of your life. -Yes, it has. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:02 | |
And, hopefully, in posting this, it will be the first step | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
-in bringing this sorry episode to an end. -Yeah, I hope so. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
There we are, Mr McMaster. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
Tony McMaster promised Sue a state-of-the-art marina. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:17 | |
He kept promising that things were going to be done | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
within the next few weeks, and they never aware. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
If he doesn't pay up the money that Sue's lost | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
as a result of believing in his promises, | 0:29:24 | 0:29:27 | |
the next person he's going to have to convince is a judge. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:31 | |
The court has received Sue's papers and she's now heard back | 0:29:33 | 0:29:37 | |
that Tony McMaster has not only replied, he's filed a defence. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:41 | |
Sue's also got a decision to make. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
The court system offers the chance for mediation | 0:29:48 | 0:29:51 | |
rather than going straight to a hearing in front of a judge. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
This is a free service where both sides can negotiate the claim, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
through a third-party impartial mediator provided by the court, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
hopefully finding a solution that is acceptable to both sides | 0:30:05 | 0:30:09 | |
without a hearing in front of a judge. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:11 | |
Any lawyer will tell you that court should always be the last resort. | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
If Sue does choose mediation, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
let's hope Tony McMaster agrees to it, as well. | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
SHUTTER SNAPS | 0:30:26 | 0:30:29 | |
I'm back on the case of the mum who believes | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
she was ripped off by a photo studio. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
She thought her daughter was being auditioned by Candi Models, | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
when in fact she was being sold a modelling portfolio | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
by Mint Brown Studios. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
Jan Koutris has written to them asking for her money back. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:46 | |
We know Mint Brown Studios and Candi Models share the same director, | 0:30:49 | 0:30:52 | |
and that they use the Candi Models website to drum up custom, | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
but if Jan and Nicki had done a quick search online, | 0:30:56 | 0:31:00 | |
they'd have discovered the word "scam" in two clicks. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
And it hasn't taken me long to find other people | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
who are very unhappy at the way Candi Models have treated them. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
Lilly Krupa is a 20-year-old student from Poland. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
Lilly sent her photo to Candi Models, and when they replied saying | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
she'd been selected for an audition, she thought she'd hit the jackpot. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:31 | |
On the phone, the Candi Models rep told Lilly that | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
if her test shoot was successful it would be free. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
After the shoot at the Mint Brown Studios, Lilly was told | 0:31:37 | 0:31:41 | |
she'd passed, so she was very surprised | 0:31:41 | 0:31:43 | |
when they dropped the bombshell of the price list. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:47 | |
I said, "I can't afford it." | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
He said, "What did you think? What did you think? | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
"How much money have you got for today? | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
How much money did you bring with you? | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
"What did you think - it was going to be free?" | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
And this is when I said, "Yes, I did. That's what I was told on the phone." | 0:31:57 | 0:32:01 | |
This is when his attitude towards me completely changed. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:06 | |
He became aggressive. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:08 | |
But I said, "Yeah, I can pay £200 today. Is it all right?" | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
And he said, "No." | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
Lilly agreed to pay £300 now | 0:32:15 | 0:32:16 | |
and the rest when she received the photographs. | 0:32:16 | 0:32:20 | |
When she got home, she told her friend what had happened. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
I googled Candi Models | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
and the first thing that came up was "Candi Models scam". | 0:32:25 | 0:32:29 | |
When I found out, I was just a mess. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
Lilly has no intention of paying any more money, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
so she hasn't received her portfolio from Candi Models. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:45 | |
She spent £350 on absolutely nothing. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:50 | |
As a student, £300 is a lot of money for me. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
It's really not very difficult to find other people | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
who feel they've been duped into spending money pointlessly | 0:33:01 | 0:33:04 | |
with Mint Brown Studios. | 0:33:04 | 0:33:06 | |
When 17-year-old Candida and her mum, Jennifer, | 0:33:07 | 0:33:10 | |
went to the Candi Models test shoot, they were both thrilled to be | 0:33:10 | 0:33:14 | |
told that Candida had successfully passed the modelling audition. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
I was very happy, actually. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:21 | |
I thought, "This is the beginning of some career for my daughter." | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
And I just encouraged her. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
After the photo shoot, Candida was told | 0:33:28 | 0:33:30 | |
if she wanted to start a career she would need a portfolio. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:34 | |
A £3,000 portfolio. | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
"Oh, I don't have that much money," I told them. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
"So, how much do you have in your account?" he asked. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
And I told him, like, "I've got some £200 or £300. That's it." | 0:33:49 | 0:33:53 | |
The salesman said he'd take the entire contents of Jennifer's | 0:33:55 | 0:33:58 | |
bank account as a down payment, and the rest could be paid | 0:33:58 | 0:34:02 | |
in instalments by signing a credit agreement. | 0:34:02 | 0:34:05 | |
There was no way we were getting out of it. We were... | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
We had to buy some pictures. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
Once Candida and her mother had left the studios, they realised | 0:34:12 | 0:34:16 | |
they'd been pressured into buying something that they didn't want. | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
I was made to feel very awkward and very horrible. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:25 | |
Despite paying £250, | 0:34:26 | 0:34:28 | |
they still haven't received a single photograph. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
Just like Jan and her daughter, | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
they thought they were going to an audition at Candi Models, | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
but ended up paying for photos from Mint Brown Studios. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
Consumer law is very clear on mis-selling. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:47 | |
You can't make false claims about what a product can do, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
and that includes modelling portfolios. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
Jan was told that the portfolio she bought for her daughter was worthless. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:56 | |
I'm a lawyer - I don't take anything for granted. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
I need to check for myself, | 0:34:59 | 0:35:01 | |
so I've arranged for the portfolio to be looked at by an expert. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
What we need is one of Britain's leading fashion photographers. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
I'm Perou, I'm a photographer and director. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:19 | |
I take photographs of the most beautiful, famous, | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
rich, successful people, and others, around the world. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
These are photos that you might see a photographer shooting | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
in a high street shop. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:34 | |
They look a little bit dated, if anything. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
They're very kind of '80s in the aesthetic. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
The pictures that we choose models from | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
when they're first starting out are generally just Polaroids. | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
No make-up, no hair, no fancy pictures in portfolios | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
or unfancy pictures in portfolios, but they're just straight snaps. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
For me, it's not about the money or the quality of the photographs - | 0:35:59 | 0:36:03 | |
it's this false advertising, this idea that with these photographs, | 0:36:03 | 0:36:08 | |
and if you spend this money you will then get work as a model. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
It's definitely not going to happen. | 0:36:12 | 0:36:13 | |
It's very, very hard and it's incredibly competitive. | 0:36:15 | 0:36:18 | |
I see these girls as vulnerable, in terms of they want to be models, | 0:36:18 | 0:36:23 | |
somebody's said to them they're pretty, they should do modelling... | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
To be told that if you buy a portfolio you will get | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
modelling work is complete lies. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
It's now 14 days since Jan sent the letter before action, | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
and Jan tells me she's heard nothing. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
So we've only got one option left. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:45 | |
-It's the only way you can get the money back. -I know. | 0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | |
'Jan is the claimant and, as all her payments were | 0:36:48 | 0:36:51 | |
'to Mint Brown Studios, they will be the defendant.' | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
We've set the brief details of claim out here, | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
so that the judge can see very quickly what the case is all about. | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
'Jan needs to detail what she is claiming | 0:37:00 | 0:37:02 | |
'and why she is claiming it.' | 0:37:02 | 0:37:04 | |
In this case, you bought a webfolio, some photographs | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
and a model list, for a grand total of £1,800, | 0:37:09 | 0:37:13 | |
because you understood from them that almost the moment | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
that you paid the money | 0:37:17 | 0:37:18 | |
your daughter would be on £1,000 a day as a model. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:21 | |
'Next is a breakdown of the value of her claim. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
'£50 deposit, £1,350 for photographs, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
'and £400 for the two sheets of A4 paper | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
'with a list of modelling agencies on them.' | 0:37:31 | 0:37:34 | |
Now, you appreciate that if you sue them for the £400, | 0:37:34 | 0:37:38 | |
they are then entitled to have the exclusive list back? | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
SHE LAUGHS | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
-I'm sure I can arrange that. -So you won't have it any more. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:50 | |
You won't be able to look into it, and... | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
Can you do without it? | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
-I can do without it. -Right. | 0:37:54 | 0:37:55 | |
'I wonder if Mint Brown Studios will be laughing | 0:37:57 | 0:38:00 | |
'when they receive notification from the court.' | 0:38:00 | 0:38:02 | |
Right, there's the postbox. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:05 | |
'This is Jan's claim, so she needs to post it.' | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
-Let's get this thing posted. -OK. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
A very brave thing that you're doing here, Jan. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:14 | |
I know, but it's scary. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:16 | |
-I don't suppose they get that many court summonses. -No. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
But if they're not going to pay you, it's the only option we've got. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
-Absolutely. -Right, do you want to post it, then? -Yes, please. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
Everything I've discovered about this so-called modelling agency | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
leads me to believe they'll treat Jan's claim the same way | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
they deal with all complaints - they'll simply ignore it. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:42 | |
Let's see if they can ignore a court summons. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
Meanwhile, narrow-boat owner Sue Williams is seeking | 0:38:46 | 0:38:49 | |
to recover the costs of moving her boat to an unfinished marina. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
Sue's also asked for the court to be dealt with | 0:38:53 | 0:38:56 | |
by the court mediation service. | 0:38:56 | 0:38:58 | |
I've heard back from Sue, and Tony McMaster has agreed. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
The mediation will be done over the phone. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:07 | |
A trained mediator will ring both parties to see if they can reach | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
a settlement which is agreeable to both of them. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
I can't speak for Sue in this mediation, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
but I can get her ready and build her confidence for that call. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:18 | |
So, Sue, what's been happening since I last saw you? | 0:39:18 | 0:39:20 | |
Oh! I don't know where to start. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
I don't know how to get in there. | 0:39:23 | 0:39:25 | |
-The same way I have. -I'll have a go. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:27 | |
'I have a feeling Sue's a little worried. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:30 | |
'I want to settle her nerves.' | 0:39:30 | 0:39:32 | |
So, Gary, what's your best advice? | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
Answer the questions, be honest, | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
-answer them all truthfully. -Yes. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
Don't ramble on. Because I know you've got the capacity | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
to do that a bit, Sue. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
But don't be too short. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
Don't be like my kids are when I ask them how they are - | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
"Fine." | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
'Mediation is all about negotiating. | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
'I think Sue's very capable of getting her point across.' | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
-You're quite happy to speak for yourself, aren't you? -Yes, I am. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:06 | |
I'm just worried about having mental blocks and silly things. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:09 | |
Right, you mustn't be nervous about this at all, Sue. | 0:40:09 | 0:40:11 | |
-OK. -It's not the Spanish Inquisition. | 0:40:11 | 0:40:13 | |
'Sue just needs to make sure she's properly prepared, | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
'by having all her paperwork organised.' | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
It's not that worrying. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
You just go in there, you tell the truth, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
you answer the questions that you're asked. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
'Let's hope Sue follows my plan | 0:40:26 | 0:40:28 | |
'and gets Tony McMaster to see things her way.' | 0:40:28 | 0:40:31 | |
Sue is claiming from Tony McMaster of Barby Moorings | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
£400 for her deposit, | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
£300 for the fuel to bring her boat to Barby Moorings, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
and £1,496 for the storage of garden equipment, | 0:40:40 | 0:40:46 | |
along with some other expenses. | 0:40:46 | 0:40:48 | |
'The court mediation service is designed to be impartial. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
'It's also confidential, and the rules are very strict. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
'After she's made the call, | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
'I meet up with Sue to find out how it went.' | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
So, tell us about the mediation process today, Sue. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
The time flew, actually. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
The time flew, even though you're sitting waiting for phone calls. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
-Right. -It's actually on and off. They'll talk to you, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
the line cuts, and they go back to the other... | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
-Right, and then they come back to you? -Yes. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
You've got to listen to everything she says, | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
even if you want to say, "No..." You've got to listen. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
-Now, mediation is confidential. -That's right. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
And you're not allowed to tell us, in fact, what offers were made, | 0:41:28 | 0:41:31 | |
what counter offers you made, | 0:41:31 | 0:41:32 | |
but how do you feel about the settlement? | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
I'm very happy with it. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:38 | |
-Are you glad it's all over? -Yes. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:40 | |
That's the best thing I've ever done. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
Under the rules, Sue can't tell us the exact details of the settlement, | 0:41:44 | 0:41:48 | |
but two things are clear - | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
Sue is very happy with what's been offered, | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
and the case is settled. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
We asked Barby Moorings to explain what had happened. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
They didn't reply. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:00 | |
There have also been some developments in our second case. | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
Back in Brighton, Jan Koutris wanted a full refund to cover the cost of | 0:42:03 | 0:42:07 | |
her daughter's modelling portfolio that she argued was worthless. | 0:42:07 | 0:42:11 | |
Jan's claim was £50 deposit, | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
£400 for a list of modelling agencies on two sheets A4 paper, | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
and £1,350 for the portfolio. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
Jan received a letter from the court saying that the deadline | 0:42:27 | 0:42:30 | |
for a response from Mint Brown Studios had passed. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
I was quite surprised when I phoned the court and they said | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
that they had actually put in a defence but it was too late, | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
which made me smile, because these are the type of people, | 0:42:41 | 0:42:44 | |
I think, that just think, "Oh, she won't take it any further." | 0:42:44 | 0:42:48 | |
Because Mint Brown Studios missed the deadline for defending | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
their claim, judgment has been entered in Jan's favour, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
meaning that she's won her case. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
We asked Mint Brown Studios AND Candi Models for a comment, | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
but neither of them bothered to reply. | 0:42:59 | 0:43:01 | |
If Mint Brown Studios don't pay up, Jan can start the process | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
of getting her money back by passing the claim on for enforcement. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
I would say it's well worth following it through. | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
I will feel proud of myself that I've actually taken them | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
to court and actually stood up against them. | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
That is what this is all about. | 0:43:21 | 0:43:23 | |
Jan and Sue stood up for themselves and have both been successful | 0:43:23 | 0:43:27 | |
by using the power of the courts to resolve their problems. | 0:43:27 | 0:43:31 | |
Jan won her case, | 0:43:31 | 0:43:33 | |
and Sue used mediation to get a negotiated settlement | 0:43:33 | 0:43:36 | |
she was very happy with. | 0:43:36 | 0:43:39 | |
Going to court isn't easy, | 0:43:39 | 0:43:40 | |
and I don't think it's something that should be taken lightly, | 0:43:40 | 0:43:44 | |
but sometimes you have no other choice. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:46 | |
The courts are there for us all, | 0:43:46 | 0:43:47 | |
to give everyone a chance to stand up for their rights. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:50 | |
Sue and Jan certainly did. | 0:43:50 | 0:43:52 | |
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