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I've had an interesting life. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
Coal miner, forklift truck driver, | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
bricklayer, factory production line worker, fireman. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
I've lived rough on the streets of London and Paris. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
But now I've got a new job. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:21 | |
'As a Queen's Counsel barrister, | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
'I know the law inside out. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:25 | |
'I've prosecuted and defended some of the UK's most serious criminals, | 0:00:27 | 0:00:32 | |
'but the life I've led means I know that the world can be a tough place. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:37 | |
'At some point, we've all felt ripped off, cheated or conned. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
'It's frustrating, costly and stressful. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:48 | |
'But I know consumers can fight back and get justice. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
'I'm not here to represent anyone. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
'What I want is to empower you' | 0:00:56 | 0:00:58 | |
to use the law to get what you're owed. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
Today, I'm in Monmouthshire, with a family who have been driven | 0:01:04 | 0:01:08 | |
to despair by a camper van. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
The mattress was wet with no electric, | 0:01:10 | 0:01:12 | |
the oven hadn't been bolted in. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
That slid across the floor whilst we were driving. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
But first, I'm in Huddersfield, | 0:01:17 | 0:01:18 | |
on the trail of a runaway mobility scooter dealer. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
'I'm going to help both of these women work out how much they're owed | 0:01:24 | 0:01:28 | |
'and show them how they can use the law to get their money back.' | 0:01:28 | 0:01:32 | |
This is the Altaf family. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
Dad Mohammed, mum Zahida, and the boys - | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
Muhzamal, Awais and the little one, Mundasar. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:48 | |
Dad is blind and mum Zahida has cerebral palsy. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:53 | |
She's our mother first... and she is disabled. | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
She likes to be very independent. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
Likes to go out and stuff like that. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
Zahida is very self-sufficient | 0:02:02 | 0:02:04 | |
and for years had a mobility scooter to get around on. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
Always going around everywhere. She could get everywhere within minutes | 0:02:21 | 0:02:25 | |
and it was, like, probably the easiest transport she's ever had. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:30 | |
When Zahida's old scooter needed fixing, the family | 0:02:31 | 0:02:34 | |
called in local dealer Peter Brown from a shop called Drivability. | 0:02:34 | 0:02:39 | |
Once he was introduced to the family, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
he tried to sell Zahida a bigger, faster scooter. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
After several visits, she agreed. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
Peter Brown took her old scooter, some extra cash | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
and agreed for the rest to be paid in instalments. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
But on only the second day out, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
the new scooter broke down in the middle of the road. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
TYRES SQUEAL HORN BLARES | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
Her husband and youngest son came to the rescue. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
And then we got a call from her and we heard that the scooter broke down. | 0:03:18 | 0:03:23 | |
I was so worried, I was actually shivering. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:32 | |
Peter Brown took the scooter away for repair | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
and then returned it again... | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
with exactly the same problems. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
He now denied the second scooter was faulty, and when Zahida protested | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
he took the scooter away, leaving her with nothing. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
-He took the scooter anyway. -Yeah, he just took the scooter... | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
-No word from him. -No word from him. Just took the scooter and just went. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
Peter Brown refused to return Zahida's scooter, | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
demanding she pay him the remaining £500. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:09 | |
The family tried everything to get Mum's scooter back. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
Peter Brown wouldn't listen to the family, leaving Zahida | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
without a scooter for two years. And now the Drivability shop has closed. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
I've been there twice, three times, four times. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
I've been there, he's not there. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
Peter Brown has now taken Zahida's original scooter, | 0:04:50 | 0:04:53 | |
her new scooter, and the £1,460 it cost her. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
I just wish that my mum got her scooter back | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
and then she'd have an easier life. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
This is, frankly, an appalling case. | 0:05:28 | 0:05:31 | |
Zahida went to a trader | 0:05:31 | 0:05:32 | |
who specialised in helping disabled people. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
He took her scooter and then closed his shop down without returning it. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:39 | |
I'll be seeing Zahida later to try and track down who it is | 0:05:39 | 0:05:42 | |
that has her scooter and her money, and help her get them back. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:46 | |
Monmouthshire, Wales. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:53 | |
Home to a family that's got a problem with a camper van. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
Meet Joanne Chappell. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
We have two boys. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:01 | |
They're nine and seven. The oldest is called James, | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
the youngest is called Nate. | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
There is never enough hours in the day. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:08 | |
It's nonstop. We don't get to sit down in our lounge, really. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
We are constantly doing something. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
As well as running three businesses and raising the kids... | 0:06:13 | 0:06:17 | |
..Joanne has a hobby. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
MUSIC: "Back In Black" by AC/DC | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
In their spare time, Joanne and her partner Dave like | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
to take their motorbikes away for the weekend. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:36 | |
You do end up spending the whole day on the bike, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
getting covered in mud and having no washing facilities. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Travelling away with the bikes in the back of an old van | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
was beginning to lose its appeal for Joanne | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
until she came up with the idea of a multipurpose camper van, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
with room for the bikes and a luxury living space up front. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
The dream that we could have a shower, we could cook our tea, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:08 | |
we'd sleep in comfort with heating and lighting, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
and make a nice weekend of it. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
Joanne bought a second-hand panel van to convert into the luxury | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
camper van she'd dreamed of. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:21 | |
She then found a company called Race Passion, who told her they | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
could carry out the conversion, and quoted her £11,000 to do the job. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:31 | |
Which they did. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
Except, when the van finally came back from the workshop... | 0:07:33 | 0:07:37 | |
..it was anything but luxury. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
We went to North Wales. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
We woke up the following morning with no electric. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
The oven hadn't been bolted in - that slid across the floor | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
whilst we were driving. There was water coming through the roof lights. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
The seating arrangement broke. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
The mattress was wet from where the roof lights had leaked. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:59 | |
The van went straight back to Race Passion | 0:08:02 | 0:08:04 | |
so that the faults would be fixed. | 0:08:04 | 0:08:06 | |
In the end, after waiting for months and months, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
we thought we'd just have to collect it and sort it ourselves. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:13 | |
When she got it home she discovered that none of the work had been done, | 0:08:13 | 0:08:16 | |
and some parts were even missing. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:18 | |
The van was in such a poor state that Joanne felt | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
she needed to take it to another company for basic repairs, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:27 | |
costing a further £3,000. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:29 | |
And even after this work, it's still far from perfect. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
The dream was to go camping with the children, | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
to go and take our motorbikes to places, | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
just to take the kids' pedal bikes to a park would have been nice. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:45 | |
We're over it now, it's gone. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:53 | |
I think we will just go back to a van and a barbecue and forget the dream. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:58 | |
Joanne's clearly not a happy camper. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:09 | |
The original company that carried out the work should have done it | 0:09:09 | 0:09:12 | |
to the agreed standard, and they didn't. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
It looks like a simple breach of contract to me, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:17 | |
but if Joanne's going to get her money back, | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
she's going to have to prove that breach. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
And I'll be seeing her later to help her go about doing just that. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
Back now to Zahida Altaf. | 0:09:29 | 0:09:30 | |
She suffers from cerebral palsy | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
and relied on a mobility scooter to get about. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
She bought one from a local disability specialist, Peter Brown. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
When it broke down he took it for repairs | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
and then refused to return it. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:43 | |
He's now closed his shop, and Zahida hasn't had a scooter for two years. | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
I need to go to Huddersfield | 0:09:48 | 0:09:49 | |
to find out more about this missing scooter salesman. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:52 | |
The shop may have closed, but hopefully with my help | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
and assistance, Zahida can track down whoever's got her scooter | 0:09:57 | 0:10:01 | |
and try to get it or her money back. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
-Hello. -Hi, Gary Bell. Thank you very much. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
I've read all about this case and can I say that I think it's | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
disgraceful what's happened to you. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:18 | |
And I came here, up the hill, | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
-and that's a pretty difficult hill to walk up, isn't it? -True. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
So this scooter, we're not talking about the scooters that the | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
Mods used to drive down to Brighton, are we? It was a mobility scooter. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:37 | |
You could get one of those. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
I'm good on those. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:43 | |
So when you got this scooter, you paid £500 for your old scooter, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:49 | |
-the comfy scooter that served you well. -Yeah. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
And they offered to pay you £1,000 in part exchange for it. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:56 | |
-Yes. -That's very kind of them. | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
Bargain Hunter of the Year - well, I don't think you would win that now, | 0:11:03 | 0:11:07 | |
would you, the Bargain Hunter of the Year? | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
So you had a scooter that worked, you bought a new scooter, | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
-they took away your scooter. -Yeah. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
You paid £800 and then £300 for the canopy, then £360 for the repair. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:25 | |
So £1,460, and as a result of that now you don't have a scooter. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:31 | |
-And you're trapped inside your own house. -Oh, my goodness. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
And you want her to get out a bit, do you, Mohammed, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
-give you a bit of peace and quiet? -Yeah. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:39 | |
How has it affected your life, not having a scooter? | 0:11:39 | 0:11:42 | |
It's disgraceful what's happened to you as a family. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:53 | |
And this man needs to pay. | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
Zahida's claim is a simple one. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
From Peter Brown she wants either the original scooter | 0:11:59 | 0:12:02 | |
she bought, in good working order, or the money she gave him, back. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:07 | |
But before I leave Huddersfield, I want to check out for myself | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
the premises that he operated from. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
"Drivability Mobility Specialists. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
"To Let." | 0:12:39 | 0:12:40 | |
"Drivability Centre. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
"Now open." I don't think so. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
Letter box crammed full of mail. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
This place seems to have shut down in a hurry. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
All the signs still in the windows. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:55 | |
It looks like it should be open. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
Some businesses do close, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
particularly in these troubled times. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
But all they had to do was to give Zahida her scooter back. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:10 | |
And they haven't done that. | 0:13:10 | 0:13:11 | |
They've kept her scooter and they've kept her money. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
And now they've shut up shop. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
Meanwhile, Joanne Chappell bought a van | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
and paid to have it converted into a dream camper van. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:24 | |
When it finally came back - months late - | 0:13:24 | 0:13:26 | |
almost none of the work was satisfactory, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
and she had to pay another company to repair the faults. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
On the face of it, this looks like a straightforward breach of contract. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
Joanne's paid for something and she hasn't got what she paid for. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
With my help and advice, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
Joanne should be able to get this problem solved for herself. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
-Hi, Gary Bell. -Nice to meet you. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
Well, I've read all about your case but we need to see the van | 0:13:52 | 0:13:55 | |
-if we can. Is it around? -Yes, it's just over there. | 0:13:55 | 0:13:57 | |
Goodness me, that's a bit of a beast. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
Right, let's go and have a look at it. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
So you bought this van just as a basic van, is that right? | 0:14:07 | 0:14:09 | |
Yeah, we bought it about two years ago. | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
And you wanted to partition it the way it's partitioned now, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
-effectively. -Yes. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:15 | |
So somewhere for the bikes, somewhere for you to sit. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
And then a bedroom up there and | 0:14:18 | 0:14:20 | |
-there's a fold-out bed that would become a bedroom for the children. -Yes. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
So tell me a bit about some of the problems you had. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
'Brace yourselves, Joanne has a list of problems | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
'as long as a Russian novel.' | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
The water tank was leaking water, so we had water round by the wires. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:36 | |
The toilet leaked, so water would come into the living area. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:41 | |
The cooker slid out and actually hit the side of the wall. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:46 | |
-It is meant to be full of insulation. -Oh, right. | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
It's just being cheap and using offcuts rather than one whole piece. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:53 | |
The tabletop leg doesn't go to the tabletop. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
All the leaking around all the windows where they'd used | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
cheap-grade silicone. | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
At least the cushions look nice. Did they make these themselves? | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
No, they actually send these off to some other company to do | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
so that is the best part of the van. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
I'm not a builder but I've seen them do that. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
HOLLOW TAPPING | 0:15:09 | 0:15:10 | |
'Joanne tells me that several items were missing - | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
'even the plug from the telly had been taken.' | 0:15:13 | 0:15:16 | |
It's absolutely disgraceful that people can behave like that. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:19 | |
How do you feel about the van? | 0:15:19 | 0:15:21 | |
We can't keep it. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
It's just made us so unhappy and caused so much stress, that | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
we will be selling the van and forgetting our dream of travelling. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
-And that's all gone now? -That's all gone. The dream has gone. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
Right, Jo, let's go and have a look at the paperwork. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
-You're not a caravaner then, are you? -No, no, I can't be done with it. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:42 | |
I can't be done with it. My idea of a weekend is The Ritz. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
'OK, so I might not be much of a camper, | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
'but even I can tell that that van was a shambles. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
'Some of the faults have been fixed by a reputable company. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:57 | |
'But even after spending £3,000 | 0:15:57 | 0:15:58 | |
'Joanne's still not happy with the van.' | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
Let's sit down and have a look at that paperwork then, shall we? | 0:16:02 | 0:16:05 | |
-It's nice to have a table, isn't it? -Yes. -Not like in the van. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:11 | |
-You thought about putting this one in the van? -If only it would fit. | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
What we need to do is verify exactly what your case is, and see | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
if we've got evidence in this file to support it. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
'Whenever you spend a lot of money it's always important to keep | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
'all of your paperwork, receipts, quotes and correspondence. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
'Joanne has been very diligent. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
'She's even got photographs showing the problems before the faults | 0:16:28 | 0:16:31 | |
'were fixed.' | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
So how long is it since you first dropped it off with him | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
to when you got it back finally after it was fixed? | 0:16:36 | 0:16:38 | |
It's been getting into the second year of just a nightmare, | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
living nightmare. There's been tears and arguments, frustration, | 0:16:43 | 0:16:47 | |
trying to get the van fixed. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:49 | |
And now trying to get our money back. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:51 | |
So from Paul Lloyd of Race Passion, Joanne's claim is... | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
The tax expired while the van couldn't be used. | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
-How many phone calls do you think you've made to him? -Hundreds. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
He never answers his calls, ever. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
We will take him to court if we need to. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
-But that should be a last resort. -Right. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
Why don't we just call him up and ask whether he'll pay on the phone? | 0:17:26 | 0:17:29 | |
'I want Joanne to know how to do this for herself. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
'It's important that she makes this call.' | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:17:35 | 0:17:39 | |
Hi, Paul, it's Joanne with the camper. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
'First tip, always state your case calmly and clearly.' | 0:17:41 | 0:17:45 | |
We've had all the work done on the camper to make it safe to use | 0:17:46 | 0:17:50 | |
and to fix all the faulty items. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
'Well done, Joanne. Keep control of the situation. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:56 | |
'Now let him know what you think he's done wrong.' | 0:17:56 | 0:18:00 | |
You hadn't done any of the work... | 0:18:00 | 0:18:01 | |
PHONE DISCONNECTS Paul, are you still there? | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
'Well, that didn't go quite as well as I'd hoped.' | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
Let's write him a letter. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:07 | |
Tell him exactly what he did wrong and exactly what we want from him. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:12 | |
Joanne needs to let him know that she wants all the costs and | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
expenses that relate to the van to be repaid within a 14-day deadline. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
If not, she'll take the case to court. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:21 | |
Let's hope this letter will get Joanne's problem solved. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
This case isn't just about shoddy workmanship to a van. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:29 | |
It's about much more than that. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:31 | |
It's about the lost dreams of an entire family. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:35 | |
Joanne wants it over, and so do I. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
And finally, after a 16-month nightmare, the end is in sight. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:42 | |
My name is Gary Bell, and as a QC I've spent most of my working life | 0:18:44 | 0:18:49 | |
dealing with major court cases. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
But I haven't always been a barrister. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
I've known some tough times, | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
and now I want to use my knowledge of the law to help others. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:59 | |
I want to show you how you can use the courts to recover your money. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
Zahida Altaf was sold a mobility scooter | 0:19:07 | 0:19:10 | |
by Peter Brown of Drivability. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
When the scooter went wrong, Zahida complained - | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
and he took it away and refused to give it back. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
The shop he operated from has now closed, | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
and for over two years Zahida has been without a scooter or her money. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:25 | |
Peter Brown tried to get away with this, | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
without any concern for the effect it would have on Zahida or her life. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:36 | |
And she must now write to him, | 0:19:36 | 0:19:37 | |
asking for the return of the scooter or the money. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
But she'll need somewhere to send the letter. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
He may have closed the shop | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
but I bet he's left a trail on the internet. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
The website has lots of pictures of scooters. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
I wonder if one is Zahida's. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:53 | |
But there are no contacts other than the closed-down premises. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:57 | |
The shop was called Drivability. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:00 | |
That may be a registered trademark that we can check online. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:03 | |
And yes, sure enough, there it is - owned by Peter Brown. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
And here's his address. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:11 | |
Zahida can now send him a letter before action | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
asking for her scooter back. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
And it won't be the first letter before action | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
that Peter Brown's ever received. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:20 | |
This is Robert Batty, owner of a Drivability scooter. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:32 | |
It looks quite a good motor. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
You know, the amount of people that have commented, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
"Oh, that looks a nice machine." | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
For what they are, they're a good... | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
They are good. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
But if they're not working right, they're neither use nor ornament. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
Robert paid a total of £3,500 | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
to Drivability for a six-month-old scooter. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
From day one, it had problems. | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
Its battery was so faulty, Robert couldn't even get to town | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
and back on one charge. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:07 | |
I was lucky to go down to Morrisons and back and...that were it. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:17 | |
That's roughly about a mile. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
When Robert complained to Drivability, | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
he was surprised by Peter Brown's novel customer service style. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
Roughly how he speaks, it's "Ah! | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
"They're new batteries, I've told you, I've put new ones in, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
"nothing wrong with them!" | 0:21:30 | 0:21:31 | |
Then when he gets going, he speeds up. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
He's "Ah, ah, ah!" He's like...a whippet at your leg. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
But Robert's having none of it, and he's taken Peter Brown | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
and Drivability to court. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
Taking him to court. If I don't get anything, unfortunately, that's it. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:57 | |
If I do, which I think I've a good chance, | 0:21:57 | 0:22:00 | |
then that's £299 in my pocket as a bonus now. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:06 | |
'Robert lost £299 to Peter Brown, no small amount. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
'But on the other side of the many hills of Huddersfield, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
'85-year-old Thomas Somerville is owed an awful lot more. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
'Thomas lost his legs through diabetes | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
'and relies on his scooters.' | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
Well, it is a lifeline for me, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:33 | |
because I wouldn't manage to go out if I didn't have the scooter. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
'Thomas needs his scooter so much, he's got an indoor | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
'and an outdoor one. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
'Well, now, because of Peter Brown, | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
'he's actually got two outdoor scooters. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
'Thomas bought a brand-new scooter from Drivability for £5,000. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:52 | |
'But no sooner had it been delivered than it started stopping. | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
'But when Thomas complained, Peter Brown refused to fix it | 0:22:57 | 0:23:01 | |
'and just made excuses for why it wasn't working.' | 0:23:01 | 0:23:04 | |
He says, "I'll tell you what's the matter." | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
I said, "Go on, then, tell me what's the matter." | 0:23:08 | 0:23:12 | |
He says, "Where you go down that road," | 0:23:12 | 0:23:15 | |
he says, "there's people has electric doors on their garages," | 0:23:15 | 0:23:21 | |
and he says, "that's what's causing it." | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
I just gave up. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:27 | |
Anyway, I says, "There's nobody with electric garages down that road." | 0:23:27 | 0:23:33 | |
I says, "I know that for definite." | 0:23:33 | 0:23:35 | |
'As an engineer, Thomas couldn't believe the excuses | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
'Peter Brown was making, and he knew the scooter was to blame. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
'He also couldn't understand why | 0:23:44 | 0:23:45 | |
'Peter Brown wouldn't fix his scooter.' | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
When it was a new vehicle, and he'd got the guarantee | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
and everything there, so why is he carrying on like that? | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
That's the only thing I could think on. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
'After months of trying to get Peter Brown to fix his brand-new | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
'scooter, Thomas got nowhere. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
'As he needs a scooter to get about, | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
'he was forced to spend £5,000 to buy himself another one. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
'He then set about using the courts to | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
'recover his money from Peter Brown.' | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
I took him to court and I won the case. And that's when he closed. | 0:24:15 | 0:24:19 | |
'The courts found in Thomas' favour, | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
'and he is now owed £5,000. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
'But so far, Peter Brown has paid him nothing.' | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
I don't have a lot of finances or nothing, no. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
No, no, I'm completely skint now. Yeah, yeah. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:39 | |
Like Robert and Thomas, | 0:24:43 | 0:24:44 | |
the only person Zahida ever dealt with was Peter Brown, | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
but if the case goes to court, | 0:24:48 | 0:24:49 | |
he may well claim it was nothing to do with him and blame a company. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:53 | |
But like Robert, Thomas and Zahida said, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
everything leads to Peter Brown. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
I'll be back to see Zahida | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
when the deadline on her letter before action is up. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
'Back now to the case of Joanne Chappell, | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
'who dreamed of owning a camper van. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
'After waiting months for her van to be converted, she discovered that it | 0:25:07 | 0:25:11 | |
'had been done so poorly she needed to pay another company to fix it. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:15 | |
'She's now sent a letter to the owner of Race Passion, Paul Lloyd, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:19 | |
'asking him to cover the cost of those repairs.' | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
When Joanne was on the phone to Paul Lloyd, he told her he had a whole | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
host of satisfied customers and that she could find them on his website. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
As a lawyer, I don't take anybody's word for it. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
I'm going to look at that website and check it out for myself. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
I always think it's a good idea to go online and search the name of the | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
company you're dealing with before you spend a lot of money with them. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
Try a search on the company name, and look in forums | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
and review sites to see what other customers think. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
A quick look at the Race Passion website and, yes, it looks great. | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
Lots of nice photos of vans. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
He even claims here that his vans feature only the best | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
craftsmanship and materials. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
But I wonder, are all of his customers satisfied? | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
This one is for a bike racer called Simon Low. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
My name's Simon, I race motorcycles in the British Championship. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
MOTORBIKE REVS | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
The bike I run is a 125 Honda. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
This is my Iveco van. We use it as a race van and also as a camper. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:34 | |
'Yes, this is "satisfied customer" Simon Low. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:38 | |
'Paul Lloyd had his van proudly displayed on the website.' | 0:26:38 | 0:26:42 | |
We saw Paul advertising Race Passion on the internet. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:46 | |
The website looked really good | 0:26:46 | 0:26:48 | |
and Paul said he would do a conversion for 15,000 for us, | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
which we thought was pretty good considering other companies | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
were offering about 30,000. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
The first thing that happened was the bed collapsed. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
Where the dado rail would be in a house, type thing, erm, that fell down. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
The sink actually leaked, | 0:27:02 | 0:27:03 | |
then the strip of lighting that lit up the kitchen area, that fell down. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:10 | |
The gas heater started playing up. That eventually stopped working. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
Whenever you turn the hot water on, it just leaks out, like, cold water. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:18 | |
Just from all the insides. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
To be honest, our 50 quid caravan felt more homely. | 0:27:20 | 0:27:24 | |
No, he's not going to have his hands on this van again. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
'And Simon's not alone. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
'This van here on the company's website belongs to another | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
'so-called satisfied customer. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
'Only she clearly isn't. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
'In fact, she's so unhappy with her Race Passion van | 0:27:40 | 0:27:44 | |
'she's started her own blog detailing the problems. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
'But up in Leicester, it's not a shoddy van that's the problem, | 0:27:50 | 0:27:53 | |
'it's the lack of one. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
'Oh, and a missing £10,000.' | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
My name's John Bowman, I'm self-employed, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
I have a business where I use a van, and basically the idea was to | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
have one van to use for pleasure and also for business. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
The camper van was going to help us to do what we wanted to do, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
which was basically, if we wanted to go out for a day | 0:28:17 | 0:28:19 | |
and stop overnight somewhere we could do, because we'd have the camper van. | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
So we found one on a site on the internet. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
The site looked absolutely fantastic, and some of the vans | 0:28:25 | 0:28:28 | |
in the pictures were brilliant, it really did look good. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
'John instructed Paul Lloyd at Race Passion to buy him | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
'a second-hand van and carry out his camper conversion.' | 0:28:34 | 0:28:38 | |
He said that he'd got me a van, sourced a van, told me all about it, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:42 | |
said he was happy with what it was. | 0:28:42 | 0:28:43 | |
I said, "OK, fine, what d'you want me to do?" | 0:28:43 | 0:28:46 | |
So he said, "Can you send me £10,000?" | 0:28:46 | 0:28:49 | |
Which I did do, erm, I sent him a cheque for £10,000, | 0:28:49 | 0:28:51 | |
and the biggest problem I had then was that he just wouldn't | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
answer any telephone calls, e-mails. | 0:28:55 | 0:28:57 | |
I just couldn't get in touch with the guy. | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
He was going to build it in December, he didn't. | 0:28:59 | 0:29:01 | |
He then said he was going to build it in January, he didn't. | 0:29:01 | 0:29:03 | |
He then said he would build us a race van | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
because he wouldn't give us our money back. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
He would build a race van, sell it and then give us a full refund. | 0:29:07 | 0:29:11 | |
He didn't do that. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
He kept on saying that he wanted to sort the problem out, but never did. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
You just can't believe a word this man says. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
I just want to stop this guy. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:21 | |
He needs stopping. | 0:29:21 | 0:29:23 | |
'Now, almost two years later, John still doesn't have his camper van | 0:29:23 | 0:29:28 | |
'or the £10,000 he sent to Paul Lloyd.' | 0:29:28 | 0:29:30 | |
It's completely destroyed us because we were so, so wanting to have a van. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:36 | |
'Alongside John, Joanne now seems very lucky. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:45 | |
'At least she got her van back.' | 0:29:45 | 0:29:48 | |
In all of my Crown Court cases, | 0:29:48 | 0:29:50 | |
supporting evidence is crucial to substantiating your claim. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:54 | |
It's the same in Joanne's case. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:55 | |
She's done very well, she's kept all of the paperwork, | 0:29:55 | 0:29:59 | |
she took photographs of the van before it was sent off for repairs. | 0:29:59 | 0:30:02 | |
But what we really need is an expert's opinion. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:05 | |
'Even though Joanne spent an extra £3,000 putting Paul Lloyd's | 0:30:07 | 0:30:11 | |
'shoddy work right, I'm still worried about that van. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:15 | |
'So I've contacted "Diamond Dave" Newell. | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
'He's the technical expert from Practical Motorhome magazine, | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
'and I've asked him to take a look. | 0:30:21 | 0:30:23 | |
'He might spot something everyone else has missed.' | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
Well, it's a big van. | 0:30:26 | 0:30:28 | |
Chequer plate floor. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:31 | |
That's the flue outlet for the fridge, which is | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
obviously obscured by the sliding door once the door is open. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
There's also no heat vents for the fridge. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:41 | |
Got a Trumatic gas-fired space heater. | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
Vented out through the driver's side wall | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
immediately below an openable window. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:52 | |
If that was burning poorly, it could be producing carbon monoxide, | 0:30:53 | 0:30:58 | |
which is lethal. | 0:30:58 | 0:30:59 | |
The standard of finishing here is really quite poor. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
It's completely un-insulated. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
You're very quickly going to ruin this door | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
and this wall that isn't made of waterproof material. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:09 | |
Roof lights haven't been sealed properly. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
That could do with some more support. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
The ceiling panel isn't straight. | 0:31:13 | 0:31:15 | |
That finishing trim isn't adhered to the back panel at all. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:18 | |
I would certainly expect better than that. It's distinctly amateur. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:22 | |
The battery hasn't been vented down through the floor. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:26 | |
Lead acid batteries, when they're being charged, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
give off hydrogen, which obviously is highly explosive. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
This void here under the seat could very easily fill up with | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
When the battery was charging, | 0:31:39 | 0:31:40 | |
it could blow this compartment clean out. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
Any fool could see that Paul Lloyd had done a bodge job | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
on this camper van. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:50 | |
But it needed an expert to tell us that it was also dangerous. | 0:31:50 | 0:31:53 | |
'The 14 days Joanne gave Paul Lloyd to pay up have now passed, | 0:31:58 | 0:32:02 | |
'and she's heard absolutely nothing.' | 0:32:02 | 0:32:04 | |
Joanne has given him every chance to pay up. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:11 | |
She's phoned him, written to him. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:13 | |
We now know that Paul Lloyd's got previous for this sort of thing, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
so the only option left for Joanne is to take him to court. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
'To start an action in the small claim court, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:26 | |
'all you need to do is fill in the form online. | 0:32:26 | 0:32:28 | |
'You can download and print one, you can | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
'get a copy from your local court, or from the Citizens Advice Bureau.' | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
Right, so this is the claim form where we set out our claim. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
Just put in a few personal details and the addresses. | 0:32:39 | 0:32:42 | |
'You'll need to enter the claimant's details, that's Joanne, | 0:32:42 | 0:32:46 | |
'and the defendant's, that's Paul Lloyd. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
'Next, it's the brief details of your claim. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:51 | |
'Keep this as short as possible.' | 0:32:51 | 0:32:53 | |
It's a very small box so they only want brief details. | 0:32:53 | 0:32:56 | |
But it's there that we set out what it is that happened | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
and what it is we're asking for. | 0:32:59 | 0:33:01 | |
So firstly, how much did it cost you to have the work done | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
-to make the van safe? -It cost us £3,000. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
Well, that's the first thing | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
and that'll be the biggest sum of money on the value form. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
'By adding up the basic repairs, missing items and MOT and tax, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:16 | |
'Joanne's claim is £4,407. | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
'Remember, you must tell the truth. This is a legal document.' | 0:33:21 | 0:33:25 | |
Well done, Joanne. This is the first step in getting your money back. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:30 | |
Yes, it'll be nice for it all to be over. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:32 | |
'Once this letter is posted, Paul Lloyd at Race Passion | 0:33:32 | 0:33:36 | |
'will need to answer to the British justice system.' | 0:33:36 | 0:33:40 | |
Right, well, there's the van. | 0:33:40 | 0:33:43 | |
And hopefully this is going to be the letter that sorts it all out | 0:33:43 | 0:33:46 | |
and gets your money back. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:49 | |
-Are you sure you want to do this? -Yes. -Sure you want to go to court? | 0:33:49 | 0:33:51 | |
Yes. It's been a nightmare. The man has been the bane of our life. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:55 | |
-Well done. -Thank you. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:56 | |
'Let's hope for Joanne's sake a court summons will bring Paul Lloyd | 0:33:56 | 0:34:00 | |
'to his senses, and get him to pay up.' | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
From all we know about Paul Lloyd, we don't expect him to respond | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
to this court summons, but if he won't talk to us now, | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
he will talk to us in court. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
'In Huddersfield, Zahida Altaf has sent a letter before action | 0:34:14 | 0:34:17 | |
'to Peter Brown, who sold her a mobility scooter | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
'and then took it away for repair and failed to give it back, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
'leaving Zahida without a way to get about for over two years. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:28 | |
'She wants her scooter, or the money she paid for it, back.' | 0:34:28 | 0:34:32 | |
Zahida's had a reply from Peter Brown. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
He said he's got nothing to do with her scooter | 0:34:36 | 0:34:39 | |
and she should contact the company she bought it from. | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
The problem is, she didn't buy it from a company, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:44 | |
she bought it from Peter Brown. | 0:34:44 | 0:34:46 | |
But if he won't pay up, she has no choice but to take him to court. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
'Starting Zahida's claim is simple.' | 0:34:51 | 0:34:54 | |
I've got the small claims form here. | 0:34:54 | 0:34:56 | |
We can fill that in together now. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
'Zahida is the claimant.' | 0:35:00 | 0:35:02 | |
For the defendant, you dealt with Peter Brown. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:04 | |
So we'll put Peter Brown down there as the defendant. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
'Next, in the brief details of the claim box, | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
'I think it's important the judge understands | 0:35:10 | 0:35:12 | |
'exactly the situation Zahida is in. | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
'We can show how the scooter came to be taken by Peter Brown, | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
'and that since then he's ignored Zahida's requests. | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
'Now, the value.' | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
Now, the entire price you paid for this scooter | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
was £1,300, is that right? | 0:35:28 | 0:35:29 | |
No, it must be more. You had to pay an extra £1,300. | 0:35:29 | 0:35:33 | |
So, that's... | 0:35:39 | 0:35:41 | |
Let alone the trouble it's caused her family. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
And what about the compensation for poor Mohammed? | 0:35:55 | 0:35:58 | |
He used to get a break from you when you went out, | 0:35:58 | 0:36:00 | |
now you're here all the time. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:02 | |
That's what my wife always says to me as well, Zahida. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
-The rule in our house is that it's always my fault. -Yes. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
ZAHIDA LAUGHS | 0:36:12 | 0:36:14 | |
That's true. | 0:36:14 | 0:36:16 | |
'I've filled out this form for Zahida, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
'and if you need help, you can always ask someone to fill in yours. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:22 | |
'The one thing you should check is that everything that's | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
'written on the form is true.' | 0:36:25 | 0:36:28 | |
You just have to sign it there, Zahida. | 0:36:28 | 0:36:31 | |
Sign it there and we'll deliver a new scooter for you | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
on Monday morning. Just give us all the money in your purse. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:36 | |
No! And try not to break it this time. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:42 | |
That's the first step to getting your scooter and your money back. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
You're very brave doing this. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:49 | |
We want the scooter back, the money back, and we want to see this | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
fellow pay for his quite frankly disgraceful behaviour. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:59 | |
Taking away a scooter and not returning it | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
clearly meant little to Peter Brown, | 0:37:05 | 0:37:08 | |
but for Zahida, it means that she's been a prisoner | 0:37:08 | 0:37:10 | |
in her own home now for over two years. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
She wants her money back, she wants her scooter back. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:16 | |
Let's hope that when Peter Brown receives this court application, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:21 | |
he realises what he's done. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:23 | |
In Monmouthshire, Joanne Chappell has been trying to recover | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
the cost of making good the camper van conversion that she had | 0:37:34 | 0:37:37 | |
carried out by Paul Lloyd of Race Passion. | 0:37:37 | 0:37:40 | |
Paul Lloyd failed to defend her claim, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
and she's been given judgement in default, | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
meaning that he is now required to pay back all of the money | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
he owes, and Joanne's additional court costs. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
The court awarded her a total of £4,627. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:21 | |
I've since heard from Joanne, and on the day she appointed bailiffs, | 0:38:23 | 0:38:27 | |
Paul Lloyd agreed to pay the money back in £500 instalments, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:31 | |
which he did. | 0:38:31 | 0:38:33 | |
Finally, after almost three years, | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Joanne has recovered all of the money Paul Lloyd owed her. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:39 | |
And John Bowman also took Paul Lloyd to court, | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
won, and he's now been paid back in full. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
We contacted Paul Lloyd to ask him about the cases, | 0:38:45 | 0:38:48 | |
but he didn't respond. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:50 | |
Zahida Altaf is waiting to hear back from the court in her | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
case against local mobility scooter salesman Peter Brown. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
He sold her a faulty scooter, took it in for repair, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
and then refused to give it back. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:07 | |
Zahida has been without a scooter now for two years. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
From Peter Brown, Zahida is claiming... | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
Zahida's heard back from the court. Peter Brown has filed the defence. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
He claims that Zahida bought her scooter from a totally | 0:39:35 | 0:39:39 | |
different company, and it has nothing to do with him. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
He goes on to say that, as a sole trader, | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
he used the name Drivability, but stopped in 2007. | 0:39:45 | 0:39:50 | |
Zahida no longer has any paperwork with either Peter Brown | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
or Drivability's name on it. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:56 | |
But when Robert Batty bought a scooter, | 0:39:56 | 0:39:58 | |
around the same time that Zahida bought hers, | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
Peter Brown gave him a receipt clearly marked Drivability, | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
and that's the registered trademark that Peter Brown owns. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:10 | |
Zahida will now need to prove to the judge that it was Peter Brown | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
personally who sold her the scooter and then took it away, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:18 | |
and to do that, she'll need to take her evidence to court. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
On the day of the hearing in Huddersfield, Peter Brown contacted | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
the court to say he couldn't make it in due to the bad weather. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
But Zahida and Mohammed managed to make it, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
and the case was heard in Peter Brown's absence. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:38 | |
'After the hearing, I met up with Zahida and Mohammed | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
'to find out the result.' | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
Right, so, how did it go? | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
-It's OK! -We won. -You won? -Yes. -Brilliant. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
You got everything you asked for. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:54 | |
He said that he couldn't get here because of the snow, | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
but you managed to get here fine. | 0:40:57 | 0:40:59 | |
Being unable to attend a hearing is sometimes an acceptable | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
reason for postponement, but in this case | 0:41:12 | 0:41:15 | |
the judge felt it wasn't, and found in Zahida's favour. | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
However, Peter Brown can still apply for a rehearing. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:25 | |
I've heard from Zahida, and Peter Brown has applied to the court | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
to set aside the first judgement and allow him another hearing. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:34 | |
Zahida has had to go back to the court, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
but this time, Peter Brown did turn up. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
The judge was still not impressed and found in Zahida's favour, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:43 | |
which means Peter Brown must pay back the money | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
he took from her two years ago. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
We wrote to Peter Brown to ask him for his comment | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
and he hasn't responded. | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
I'm going back to Huddersfield to see Zahida. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
Well, it's been a long, hard road, Zahida. | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
But you've finally won your case. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
'Zahida took a piece of evidence to court | 0:42:15 | 0:42:17 | |
'which proved a crucial factor in her case - | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
'her spare key to the scooter that Peter Brown sold her, | 0:42:20 | 0:42:23 | |
'advertising his trading name Drivability.' | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
Can I have a look at that? | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
So this has got his company name on it, and his telephone number, | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
and he said that you bought the scooter from a different company. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
Well, absolutely. You've won all the damages you've asked for. | 0:42:50 | 0:42:54 | |
And how long has he got to pay them? | 0:42:54 | 0:42:56 | |
So in 14 days' time, you should be able to buy a new scooter. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
So, Zahida, are you glad that you stood up to him? | 0:43:06 | 0:43:08 | |
Zahida is absolutely right. | 0:43:16 | 0:43:19 | |
Not getting away with it is why we should use the courts to | 0:43:19 | 0:43:22 | |
stand up to people who try and take advantage of us. | 0:43:22 | 0:43:26 | |
Peter Brown didn't listen to Zahida, but the judge did. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
Now she's won her case and must be paid back in full. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:33 | |
Joanne won her case, and got back all the money she was owed. | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
Taking your case to court can be very hard work, stressful, | 0:43:38 | 0:43:42 | |
and of course there are no guarantees of success, | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
but the law is there for everyone, and, when all else fails, | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
we can use it to claim back what is rightfully ours. | 0:43:48 | 0:43:51 | |
Zahida and Joanne certainly did. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
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