Episode 4 The Sheriffs Are Coming


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What do you do if you're ripped off and don't know where to turn?

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I did outline all the faults in the vehicle. He rejected all those.

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A court of law backs you, but you still don't get your money?

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Little did I know how long it would take to try and recover the money from him.

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Sorry.

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It's time to call the sheriffs.

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We have every right to enter the premises by force if necessary.

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We will be entering that building.

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Sheriffs are High Court enforcement officers,

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who recover what a court judgment says is owed.

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The writ orders us to come here and seize goods to the value of this debt.

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They're the experts in getting cash that's rightfully yours.

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£1,323.

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But fighting for the underdog isn't a job for the faint-hearted.

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Mind yourself, Lawrence.

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I will back that truck straight through your windscreen!

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Debtors aren't pleased to see them.

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They're harassing me!

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Because they hate paying up.

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-Are you happy for me to leave some paperwork?

-No, I'm not! Go away!

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In today's programme...

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David Hart bought a beach buggy to enjoy with his son.

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But he found out it was stolen.

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There's my dream on the back of a low-loader going up the road.

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When the sheriffs go to get David's money back from the man who sold it to him,

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things turn nasty.

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-You're entitled to your opinion.

-I'm going to take your head right off your shoulders!

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I'm here doing a job, aren't I?

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The sheriffs brave a torrential rainstorm, as they visit a pub

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on behalf of a former employee who'd been unfairly dismissed.

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-We're looking to collect some money.

-You're not having this jumper!

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And a customer wants his money back from an art gallery

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who didn't give him the print he'd paid for.

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But before the sheriffs can get his cash, they need to get in.

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He's in!

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David Hart owns a care home for people with Alzheimer's and dementia.

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It's a demanding job, but David still enjoys his work.

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It's a 24/7 occupation, really. You're always on call.

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There's no holidays. There's no weeks off.

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You can get it covered by other people, but you're literally on call 24/7.

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Two years ago, David had a heart attack and it changed his approach to life.

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When I was in the hospital, that is THE most scariest thing ever.

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I actually asked the nurses, "Am I going to die?"

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And that's scary, really scary.

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And they said, "If you have any problems, you're in the right place."

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Sorry. Erm...

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And I thought, "Yeah. I know I'm in the right place."

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But it still doesn't make it any easier when you're thinking about what you should do,

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what you would like to do and what you can do.

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So I thought... That's when I think it all came into perspective then.

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Spend some more time with the people that you love NOW, cos you never know.

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David used to enjoy going for long motorbike rides,

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but after his heart attack he decided to spend more time with his family.

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I thought that I should share a little bit more.

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So I thought I would buy myself something where my son, my daughter and my wife

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could all join in, type thing.

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And I thought, "Oh, I know what I'll do. I'll buy a beach buggy."

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I've always fancied one, but I've never had one.

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David sold his motorbike and saw a beach buggy advertised for £4,000 on eBay

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by a local man called Colin Humphreys.

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The buggy was just what he wanted.

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So he sent Mr Humphreys a £500 deposit and went round with a friend to pick it up.

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He pulled it out

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and it wasn't really what it was cracked up to be.

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Really. It had, erm... It wasn't running right.

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It didn't go right. There were bits and pieces missing.

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It wasn't finished. It didn't have any number plates on it.

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It just wasn't as tidy as it could have been.

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David decided not to buy the buggy, after all.

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I said, "I'm sorry.

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"But it's not how you described it and it wants a bit too much work doing to it.

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"And I'll walk away, I'm afraid.

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"And I'll just arrange to get my deposit back."

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And he said, "OK, fine. No problem at all."

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But David didn't get his deposit.

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Instead, he got a surprise phone call from Colin Humphreys

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saying he was willing to take a much lower figure for the buggy.

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I said, "£2,000."

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He went, "No, no." Definitely, that wasn't happening.

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So, in the end, we decided on £2,500.

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David and his son, Jack, were thrilled with their new wheels.

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David applied to the DVLA for the buggy's log book.

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But rather than sending David the log, the DVLA gave him some bad news.

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I was told that somebody else had claimed ownership of the vehicle.

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I said, "Well, I don't see how, cos I have the vehicle in my garden."

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He said, "No, somebody else owns it."

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David called the police and told them what the DVLA had said.

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They came down. They said it WAS stolen.

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Arranged for it to be picked up, which was gutting.

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There's my dreams on the back of a low-loader going up the road and I've done nothing wrong.

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David phoned Colin Humphreys, who said he'd reimburse him, but he never did,

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so David took Mr Humphreys to the County Court.

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Mr Humphreys claimed he bought the buggy in good faith

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from a person who later reported it stolen.

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But the court didn't accept this argument

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and Mr Humphreys was ordered to repay David's money, plus court costs -

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over £3,500.

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The judge basically said

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you have to pay the lot within 14 days.

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But, erm, he hasn't and I haven't seen a penny since.

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David was left with little option.

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He went to the High Court and got a writ for the money.

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And now sheriffs Lawrence Grix and Kev McNally are on their way to Colin Humphreys' house

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to get David's cash and their costs for enforcing the writ.

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The total now stands at £4,700.

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It's getting on for five o'clock in the evening now,

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so, hopefully, if the defendant was at work,

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they'll either be on their way home or at home.

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So we should have a chance of making contact with them.

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We'll see when we get there.

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Lawrence and Kev have arrived.

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Because this visit is to a domestic residence rather than a commercial property,

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they can't break in to seize goods.

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They will have to try and get David his money back some other way.

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-Hello, sir. We're looking for Colin Humphreys. Would that be yourself?

-Yeah.

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Hello, sir. Enforcement officers, here to execute a High Court writ...

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-Yeah.

-..Against you in favour of a...David Hart.

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-Yeah.

-Here today to seize goods to the tune of £4,717 and 63 pence.

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-You ain't coming in, brother.

-Have you got any way of paying this?

-No.

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-Or some of it?

-No. Not a tanner. I ain't got no work, no nothin'.

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-Erm, are you on benefits?

-Well, I'm signing on, but I ain't getting nothin'.

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-Have you got paperwork to show you're signing on?

-Yeah.

-Can I have a see of that?

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Stay there and I'll show you it. All right?

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At this point, our camera operator was asked by Mr Humphreys to go away from the house.

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Mr Humphreys started to shout so loud it could be heard down the street.

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I ain't bothered about you, the old bill or anything else.

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-I don't give a

-BLEEP!

-for any of you.

-Fair enough.

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-Right, then go away.

-Can my colleague get a picture of that?

-No, mate.

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DOOR SLAMS

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Because they can't break into the house,

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Lawrence has little option but to post a copy of the writ through the letterbox.

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-Ain't you gone yet?

-I've just got to leave you some paperwork, sir.

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-You, you

-BLEEP! BLEEP!

-How am I being cocky?

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-Don't get lairy with me, you

-BLEEP!

-I'll take your face off.

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-If you fancy your chances, come round the back.

-I'm just here doing a job.

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-Come round the back. I'll show you. I'll take your head right off.

-BLEEP!

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Can we just calm it down. I just need to leave this paperwork, sir.

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-Listen, mate, take him and

-BLEEP!

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-BLEEP!

-Now

-BLEEP!

-the pair of you off.

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-You've got a choice...

-Right, are you happy for me to just leave you some paperwork?

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No, I'm not. Go away!

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-All right...

-I'll count to three and then we're going to kick off.

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You can go and get the old bill, do what you like. One...

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-Right, sir. What I'll do...

-Two.

-..I'll fill out some paperwork and put it through your door, OK?

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Lawrence will call the police if the situation does become violent.

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From a safe distance, he lists property

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that could be removed on a second visit to auction to pay off the debt.

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-What have we got here? A couple of pot plants.

-He's coming back out now.

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-What's he up to then?

-Don't know.

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They may not be at a safe distance, after all.

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Mr Humphreys has come out to the road.

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There you go, sir.

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-What I've put on here is...

-Before we go any further.

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Before you come round here, as far as I understand,

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-by law you've got to give me seven days' notice.

-No, sir, no.

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We're not County Court bailiffs. Do you want to take this, sir?

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-I ain't got to take

-BLEEP! You don't have to take it, no.

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Before going back into his house, Mr Humphreys threatens Kev again.

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-Come here!

-I'm here doing a job, aren't I?

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-I'll take your head right off.

-I'm here doing a job.

-Come here!

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Come here! Step here! Let's see how good you are.

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-And then you can have a go, an' all.

-Sir, we're not sent out for aggravation.

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-All right? We're just trying to get a job done.

-You're scumbags!

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-You're entitled to your opinion, sir.

-Go away! And you!

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If I see you again, mate, I WILL take your head off.

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-See what I'm saying?

-You're entitled to your opinion. I'm here doing a job, aren't I?

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-I will take your head right off your shoulders.

-I'm here doing a job.

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Come round here again - with him or a couple more. I ain't bothered.

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Step inside this gate. Just step inside here.

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Come on. Me and you.

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Right, sir, we're not here for aggravation.

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God help me, I'd rather get locked up than see you take anything. I'd rather hurt the pair of you.

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On my life, I'm 55 year old, but me, I've done more prison than...

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-I don't give a

-BLEEP!

-for you people. Let you be told.

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-Yeah...

-Stay away. If I see you

-BLEEP!

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HIS THREATS BECOME INDISTINCT

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With Mr Humphreys threats becoming more extreme,

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it's clear that nothing can be achieved by staying further.

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The sheriffs make their exit.

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It's not the first time Lawrence has been threatened in the line of duty and it won't be the last.

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Everybody develops their own way

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of dealing with confrontation and aggravation.

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It's just something you learn over the years.

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We're not out for aggravation and we try to avoid it.

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As far as I'm concerned, your mouth is your best weapon.

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You cannot beat experience when it comes to dealing with people,

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particularly aggressive people.

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You have to sort of learn to read the signs.

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Read, er, you know...

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Read into people what buttons make them get aggravated

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and not press those buttons.

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You're dealing with people that don't want you to be there.

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Whereas, most other walks of life, you're dealing with people that DO want you to be there.

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Erm, we're never welcome.

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You know, that's just a fact of life.

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And it's another fact of life that the sheriffs don't give up.

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Lawrence is already planning a return visit to Mr Humphreys during daylight hours.

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We'll have to go with the police because I've got no doubt he will kick off.

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-He just seemed that sort of person.

-It was going to go then...

-Yeah.

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He's obviously highly volatile.

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So that's one where you would potentially have to go with the police.

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Mr Humphreys can expect another visit soon.

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High Court enforcement officer Mark Newson has joined Kev for the sheriffs' next job.

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They're going to a pub in London,

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whose owner owes a former employee over £1,200.

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Three years ago, the employee won an unfair dismissal case against the pub,

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but wasn't paid the compensation, so she got a High Court writ.

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With court costs and interest, the debt now stands at £2,100.

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We're in Hackney.

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And we are looking for a company called Seamless Ltd.

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We just drove past the address. It looks like it's possibly changed,

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but we'll just go over there and see what's happening,

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and see if it is the previous tenants or whether it's the same people that are still there.

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The former employee has now moved back to her home country, Brazil,

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and it looks like a tropical rainstorm has just descended on Hackney.

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-Hello, there. You from the pub, yeah?

-Yeah.

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-I'm after Seamless Ltd.

-Yeah, we're part of Seamless.

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Well, the pub is part of Seamless Ltd.

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-I'm from the High Court about a High Court writ that's been issued.

-Right.

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-One second.

-Yeah, no worries.

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-Who are you looking for?

-Seamless Ltd.

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-Oh, right. OK.

-Yeah.

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-Eh? It's owned by Seamless Ltd.

-Yeah.

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We're looking to collect some money from the High Court.

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That's a good start. The man in the cellar has shouted up to Mark

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that the ownership of the pub hasn't changed.

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Now Mark has to find the owner and get the owed money.

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Is there any way you can get hold of someone?

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Basically, if we can't get payment, we have to seize goods.

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-You're not having this jumper!

-LAUGHTER

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I don't think it will fit me. LAUGHTER

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-I'll make a call for you, mate.

-Yeah, no worries.

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The man in the cellar says he's going to come up and call his boss.

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High Court enforcement officers are legally allowed

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to walk straight into commercial premises.

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So Mark and Kev enter the pub

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and look for possible property to remove to pay off the debt.

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They could take £2,000 worth of alcohol right now.

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With the pub due to open in 20 minutes, that may affect custom.

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Who's going to want to buy our bottle of Scotch apart from the bloke on the bench down the road?

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It's the inconvenience though, innit?

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I've spoken to the general manager. He's spoken to the owner.

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He's saying this is an ex-employee and he's actually sent a cheque,

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a week before Christmas to her home in Leeds.

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It obviously hasn't been received.

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Erm...

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What, he sent a cheque direct to her?

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OK, let me ring and just make sure that it's still...

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A cheque sent to Leeds may not have reached the former employee in Brazil.

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Mark calls the office to see if the debt has indeed already been paid off.

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At this point, our camera operator was asked to leave the pub.

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It's still live this case, cos the guy is saying they sent a cheque to the claimant

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before Christmas.

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Yeah, no problem. Give us a shout back. Lovely. Cheers.

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-They're just going to try and get hold of her.

-OK.

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Speak to her and then go from there, yeah? All right.

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While Mark and Kev wait to hear the status of the case,

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the pub staff get ready to open up,

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although anyone venturing out for a drink today would probably need a snorkel!

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Ten minutes later, the manager phones back

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and says a cheque was sent to the employee's solicitors in Leeds.

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Mark tries to get more information from him.

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Do you know the name of the solicitors at all?

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Yeah, if you could get the name of the solicitors and the amount that was sent.

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Then we'll go from there and see if we can give them a call.

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See, at the moment, it's still outstanding and needs to be paid. That's where we are at the moment.

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Thank you. Bye-bye.

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He said, "Look, 100%, it's definitely been sent."

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He's sent it to them. Solicitors, they don't...

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-How can you be unsure who it's gone to?

-Eh?

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-How can you be unsure...?

-He has to speak to the other guy.

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The owner. He's the manager. He has to speak to the owner.

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I don't think we'll get any money out of 'em, without a big...

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But you never know.

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Mark may have spoken too soon.

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Half an hour later, the manager turns up at the pub

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and asks Mark the total amount owed and how it needs to be paid.

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2125.60.

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Debit card, credit card.

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Paying by debit card incurs a £5 additional cost,

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so the manager decides to pay the full amount with cash.

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The former employee will get her money after all.

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Mark has a theory about why the situation changed so quickly.

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High Court enforcement can be bad for business.

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They were cooking the food up, so obviously expecting people to start coming in around lunchtime now.

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It would have caused him a lot more aggro than the £2,000 was worth.

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So probably best for him just to pay.

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Yeah. So it's a good result for us.

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Mark and Kev got to the van with the owed money just in time.

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The monsoon has now reached biblical proportions.

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Mark has learnt from personal experience to be careful when he has a wad of cash to look after.

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I went in the caff with Tony one morning.

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And I put the folder on the table, yeah?

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We was having something to eat. We had about four grand in it. And he put it on the chair.

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So we left the caff, drove about four mile down the road.

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I was like, "Where's the folder?" He's like, "You had it." I went, "No, you had it."

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He's like, "I left it in the caff!"

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We went back to the caff and the bloke behind the thing went, "Oh, you left your folder here!"

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LAUGHTER

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And with that, the sheriffs return to base,

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without any cafe stops on the way!

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The sheriffs have been despatched on another job.

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Kev and Lawrence are going to an art gallery in London.

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A customer purchased what he thought was a limited edition print from Atom Rooms Ltd

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for £1,500, but then discovered it was just an artist's proof, which isn't as valuable.

0:19:530:19:59

The customer asked for his money back and got nowhere,

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so he went to the High Court and got a writ for the cash.

0:20:030:20:06

But before the sheriffs can execute it, they need to get through the front door.

0:20:060:20:11

Quite a lot of the time, the galleries are locked.

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They're reluctant to let people in if they don't know who they are,

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if they don't think they're a genuine customer.

0:20:180:20:20

Erm, and two of us rocking up

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doesn't really look like we're customers.

0:20:230:20:26

So almost better to just go one at... One of us go up and just get in first.

0:20:260:20:31

Especially, when one of us is bald and ugly and the other one's got a briefcase under his arm!

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HE LAUGHS

0:20:360:20:38

The sheriffs have arrived at the gallery. Lawrence hangs back,

0:20:380:20:42

while Kev charms his way into the premises.

0:20:420:20:45

..Just to see if he can get in. Let him get in. He's in!

0:20:450:20:49

Hello, sir. I'm an enforcement officer.

0:20:490:20:52

-Oh.

-Here today to execute a High Court writ.

0:20:520:20:55

-Are you Mark Feathers?

-No, he's not here.

0:20:550:20:58

-You're not? He's not here? Are you able to get him on the phone?

-Not at the moment.

0:20:580:21:02

-Can you come back later?

-No, we can't, sir. We're here to execute a High Court writ.

0:21:020:21:07

We're here to seize goods, so you need to get Mr Feathers on the phone.

0:21:070:21:11

We're quite happy to wait while you do that,

0:21:110:21:14

but we need you to get Mr Feathers on the phone, cos he's the one who needs to deal with this.

0:21:140:21:18

He must be contactable. Is he on the phone?

0:21:180:21:21

Yeah. Can you exit and then I'll see?

0:21:210:21:24

No. We don't go out again, sir.

0:21:240:21:27

We're here to execute this writ.

0:21:270:21:30

So you just need to get Mr Feathers on the phone.

0:21:300:21:33

In the past, the sheriffs have seized Formula 1 cars, aeroplanes and gold bullion.

0:21:350:21:41

The biggest settlement they've had is £5 million.

0:21:410:21:44

So £1,500 worth of paintings isn't a daunting task.

0:21:440:21:49

We're here to seize goods to cover an outstanding debt.

0:21:490:21:53

I can't disclose the amount or anything to you at this time.

0:21:530:21:57

While they wait for the assistant to call the owner,

0:21:570:22:00

Lawrence and Kev take time out to appreciate a work of art

0:22:000:22:04

similar to the one at the centre of the dispute.

0:22:040:22:07

When you see it full size in the flesh like that,

0:22:070:22:10

-you can see it's quite a powerful piece, innit?

-It is.

0:22:100:22:14

How are we doing?

0:22:180:22:20

-What time does he normally get in?

-What time is it now?

0:22:200:22:24

Quarter to three.

0:22:240:22:26

About four or five?

0:22:270:22:29

Lawrence decides to up the ante.

0:22:290:22:32

I'm going to start taking an inventory of the stuff that we're seizing.

0:22:320:22:38

And it seems to have an effect.

0:22:400:22:42

That's going to be eight by 12, innit?

0:22:480:22:51

But Lawrence is no art expert.

0:22:520:22:55

I'm just going to take a picture of the ones I've written down so far,

0:22:550:22:58

obviously, we're going to have to have photographic evidence to back these up,

0:22:580:23:03

cos my descriptions aren't going to be

0:23:030:23:07

necessarily accurately descriptive.

0:23:070:23:09

-What is the whole procedure then?

-Procedure?

0:23:100:23:13

He's got debt outstanding and it needs to be settled

0:23:130:23:18

to us here and now.

0:23:180:23:20

And then we go.

0:23:200:23:22

Past experience tells Lawrence that if artwork does need to be removed,

0:23:230:23:28

it's wise to take it as soon as possible.

0:23:280:23:32

We would have to remove stuff from here today,

0:23:320:23:35

because it's movable.

0:23:350:23:38

This is small, easily transportable

0:23:380:23:41

and, basically, I believe the goods would be in jeopardy if we didn't take them from here today.

0:23:410:23:46

In other words, we come back and the paintings will be gone.

0:23:460:23:49

Lawrence looks for documents which provide proof of ownership for the artwork on display.

0:23:490:23:55

He can only remove paintings which belong, without doubt,

0:23:550:23:59

to Mark Feathers - the person named in the writ.

0:23:590:24:02

That's got to be his.

0:24:020:24:04

These have got to be his prints, Lawrence, haven't they?

0:24:120:24:15

-What's that?

-Well, prints in a tube with his name on.

0:24:150:24:17

You'd guess so, wouldn't you?

0:24:190:24:21

The High Court writ Lawrence is executing just names the individual, Mark Feathers,

0:24:210:24:26

not the company, and a name on a package isn't definitive proof of ownership.

0:24:260:24:31

And Lawrence's analysis of the ownership documents has revealed another problem.

0:24:310:24:36

Everything's coming in in the name of Atom Rooms Ltd.

0:24:360:24:40

Not Mark Feathers trading as Atom Rooms.

0:24:400:24:44

Erm, so I think...

0:24:440:24:47

Erm, potentially...

0:24:480:24:50

Atom Rooms Ltd owns what's here.

0:24:500:24:53

Everything seems to be in the name of Atom Rooms Ltd, not in Mark Feathers' own name,

0:24:530:24:57

so I'm just going to leave seizure paperwork.

0:24:570:25:00

I don't think it's worth waiting round, cos I don't believe he's going to turn up.

0:25:000:25:06

Lawrence will seize the paintings which don't have documentation,

0:25:060:25:10

but he won't physically remove them until he can be certain they're owned by Mark Feathers.

0:25:100:25:15

Mr Feathers now has five days to prove they aren't his.

0:25:150:25:19

I'll leave you this paperwork to pass on to him.

0:25:200:25:22

OK, this is a notice of seizure, which tells him how much is owed.

0:25:220:25:26

I'll put it in an envelope in a second, OK?

0:25:260:25:28

-If he doesn't own the stuff...

-Yeah.

0:25:280:25:31

-If it's owned by Atom Rooms Ltd, he'll have to provide paperwork to that effect.

-Yeah.

0:25:310:25:37

For everything that's in here.

0:25:370:25:39

-Erm...

-Paperwork that it's owned by Atom Rooms?

0:25:390:25:43

Or by third parties. Third parties will have to claim their own goods.

0:25:430:25:48

I'm just going to take pictures of, er...

0:25:480:25:51

..most of the rest of the bits of artwork now,

0:25:520:25:55

so that nothing disappears. If he does dispose of any of it, it's actually a criminal offence.

0:25:550:26:00

I'd like to point that out to him as well, seeing as how he's not bothering to, er...

0:26:000:26:04

..return your calls.

0:26:040:26:07

It might also be worth pointing out to him

0:26:090:26:12

that we can come back and inspect that the stuff is here at any time,

0:26:120:26:16

and if necessary force entry, OK?

0:26:160:26:19

Cheers.

0:26:190:26:20

The Mark Feathers' case is proving far from straight forward.

0:26:230:26:27

Another case, potentially, where the client sued the wrong entity.

0:26:280:26:31

All the paperwork there, everything,

0:26:310:26:34

seems to be in the name of Atom Rooms Ltd.

0:26:340:26:37

I don't believe Mark Feathers trades as Atom Rooms.

0:26:370:26:40

He's, I would guess, the person who's dealing with it most of the time in there.

0:26:400:26:44

But I don't think it's him trading as. It's a limited company.

0:26:440:26:47

So we wouldn't be able to remove any limited company assets to cover a debt in his name personally,

0:26:470:26:53

which is why I haven't wasted too much time. I've done a seizure of everything in there.

0:26:530:26:58

He's now got five days to provide proof of who owns it,

0:26:580:27:01

be that the limited company or the artist, if they still own any of the pictures in there.

0:27:010:27:07

But I don't believe he's going to turn up today.

0:27:070:27:09

So I think it would be a waste of time to sit around and wait for him.

0:27:090:27:13

If the sheriffs don't succeed in getting the customer the cash he's owed,

0:27:150:27:19

they'll only charge him a £60 admin fee for their efforts.

0:27:190:27:23

This case provides a clear lesson for anyone thinking of trying to get their money back

0:27:230:27:28

by going to the High Court.

0:27:280:27:31

We're trying to drum it into claimants, be careful that you get the correct entity on the writ.

0:27:310:27:36

You actually sue the correct person or the correct company.

0:27:360:27:40

And sometimes it just needs a little bit of digging

0:27:400:27:43

to actually find out who you have been dealing with.

0:27:430:27:46

The customer may need to go back to the High Court

0:27:470:27:49

and apply for the company name to be included on the writ.

0:27:490:27:53

If he is successful, Lawrence and Kev will be back to get his money.

0:27:530:27:58

Lawrence and Kev work for this High Court enforcement office.

0:28:070:28:11

If it's a commercial property, then we can force entry to levy, if necessary.

0:28:110:28:15

Enforcement officers have been known as sheriffs for centuries.

0:28:150:28:19

Their job dates back to Saxon times.

0:28:200:28:23

We have a live writ and we are here today to seize goods to clear this debt.

0:28:250:28:29

This company has 40 full-time sheriffs

0:28:290:28:32

and pursues over 1,000 cases a month.

0:28:320:28:36

Advance planning is a key factor and Lawrence is already liaising with the police

0:28:360:28:41

about an upcoming late-night visit to a nightclub in Dover.

0:28:410:28:45

The police want the sheriffs to go during the day, when it will be quieter,

0:28:460:28:49

but Lawrence has different ideas.

0:28:490:28:52

They're suggesting that we go out of hours. Well, that's no good.

0:28:520:28:56

We need to verify that our defendant has goods within those premises,

0:28:560:29:01

or we can't force an entry. Well, we can.

0:29:010:29:04

But if we find that they don't have goods in there, then we can be found guilty of trespass,

0:29:040:29:09

which is, obviously, not something we want to do.

0:29:090:29:12

So we need to go there first to seize goods and ascertain who those goods belong to.

0:29:120:29:16

High Court enforcement officers can list

0:29:160:29:19

or seize potential goods for removal at a later date.

0:29:190:29:23

In most cases, this proves an effective way of getting debtors to pay up,

0:29:230:29:28

and moments ago, Lawrence closed just such a case.

0:29:280:29:32

A debtor just arrived downstairs wanting to pay.

0:29:320:29:36

So I went down there with a PDQ machine, expecting it to be a card payment.

0:29:360:29:40

They offered to pay by cheque, which we didn't have.

0:29:400:29:43

We don't take cheques. So he just opened his bag and got out £1,300 in cash.

0:29:430:29:48

So, yeah, that's another case cleared up. He's cleared his case in full.

0:29:490:29:54

Will Lawrence have similar luck at the nightclub - with or without the police?

0:29:560:30:01

It's 9.15pm and he and Kev are on their way to Dover.

0:30:030:30:08

We're going to a club called Club Karma.

0:30:080:30:11

Erm...

0:30:110:30:12

The, er, defendant is Karma Leisure Ltd, trading as Club Karma.

0:30:120:30:17

And I believe the money's owed to a private individual,

0:30:170:30:20

who actually arranged their licence for them

0:30:200:30:22

when they opened the club and he's never been paid for it.

0:30:220:30:26

At the moment, we're looking at a debt of just under £2,300.

0:30:260:30:32

It's not ideal to be on the hunt for owed money late at night

0:30:320:30:37

in an establishment with alcohol present.

0:30:370:30:40

Lawrence has reached a compromise with the local constabulary.

0:30:400:30:43

They're reluctant to attend with us when we actually get there,

0:30:430:30:48

but they are on alert, so if we do encounter any trouble,

0:30:480:30:52

they will have patrols in the area.

0:30:520:30:54

So we'll just be able to call 999 and we'll have a fairly rapid response to that

0:30:540:30:59

should we need it.

0:30:590:31:01

The sheriffs have arrived at the club.

0:31:010:31:05

It's 30 minutes to opening time.

0:31:050:31:08

-Hello.

-Hello there. I'll show you some ID.

0:31:090:31:12

I'm an enforcement officer here to execute a High Court writ.

0:31:120:31:16

Right.

0:31:160:31:17

Their first task is to find the owner and enforce the writ for the owed money.

0:31:170:31:22

Hello, sir.

0:31:220:31:24

-I'll show you some ID.

-Yep.

0:31:240:31:26

-We're enforcement officers.

-Come.

0:31:260:31:29

-Here to execute a High Court writ.

-Yeah.

0:31:300:31:33

-Erm, against Karma Leisure Ltd, trading as Club Karma.

-Yeah.

0:31:330:31:38

The amount outstanding is £2,257 and 18 pence.

0:31:380:31:43

Unfortunately, sir, we are here to seize goods,

0:31:430:31:47

erm, to clear this debt.

0:31:470:31:50

-How much was it?

-£2,257.18.

0:31:500:31:54

-Have you got a bank account?

-We've got a machine you can do a debit card payment on to.

0:31:540:31:58

-Yeah, someone can do it over the phone then?

-Not a pin.

0:31:580:32:01

-If you've got a card...

-No, not me, but someone else.

0:32:010:32:03

-No, it's chip and pin. They'd need to come here.

-Will they?

0:32:030:32:07

Er... See, they're in London.

0:32:090:32:12

The nightclub manager calls his father in London,

0:32:120:32:15

who owns the business and has the company credit card. He asks to speak to Lawrence.

0:32:150:32:21

Hello.

0:32:210:32:22

Right. This needs to be paid, sir.

0:32:240:32:26

This needs to be paid.

0:32:270:32:30

Whether you've appealed or not, sir, we have a live writ,

0:32:300:32:33

which we're here with tonight to enforce, so this needs to be paid.

0:32:330:32:38

You can't... Well, I'll carry on with my seizure of goods then, sir.

0:32:390:32:44

-OK?

-Let me speak to him.

0:32:440:32:46

The owner told Lawrence nothing in the club belongs to the debtor company, Karma Leisure,

0:32:460:32:53

so there's no point removing anything.

0:32:530:32:56

But unless Lawrence sees paperwork proving that,

0:32:560:32:59

he'll still seize goods to pay the debt.

0:32:590:33:01

I've got a couple of these papers. I can show you the lease papers.

0:33:010:33:07

-The lease papers for what, sir?

-Everything, basically.

0:33:070:33:10

So you've got lease papers for everything here?

0:33:110:33:14

Pretty much. Well, all the equipment, fridges, everything of value, yeah.

0:33:140:33:18

Well, you will need to show us that, yeah.

0:33:180:33:22

-All right. Hold...

-The alcohol as well, is it?

0:33:220:33:24

Hold on. Is there anything we can pay now to stop it?

0:33:240:33:28

-Yeah, £2,257...

-I could give you half or something.

-No.

0:33:280:33:32

We have to take full payment.

0:33:320:33:34

Not being funny, that's not a massive amount of money in this day and age.

0:33:340:33:39

The owner asks to speak to the High Court enforcement officer again.

0:33:390:33:44

Lawrence couldn't be clearer in explaining what he's here to do.

0:33:440:33:47

We can seize, and we will seize, all assets within the premises

0:33:470:33:51

until such time as we have proof that they don't belong to Karma Leisure.

0:33:510:33:55

The only way to prevent further action is to pay in full.

0:33:550:33:59

No, it needs to be paid tonight, sir, now.

0:33:590:34:02

I'll hand you back to your son.

0:34:020:34:04

Hello.

0:34:040:34:06

Well, they're not listening, so there's not really anything I can do.

0:34:060:34:10

-OK, can you wait here then, till he comes here?

-For how long?

0:34:100:34:15

How long will you be?

0:34:150:34:17

Two hours. He's coming from London.

0:34:170:34:19

It's £181.50 plus VAT per hour waiting time.

0:34:190:34:24

-It's 180 quid plus VAT.

-Per hour.

0:34:240:34:27

So that will be 360 quid plus VAT.

0:34:270:34:30

The mention of overtime costs and the fact the club is due to open in 15 minutes,

0:34:300:34:36

has focused the owner's attention.

0:34:360:34:38

The sheriffs seizing property like alcohol, chairs and tables

0:34:380:34:42

could affect custom.

0:34:420:34:45

Can 1,000 be paid now, or...?

0:34:450:34:48

But how is the 1,000 going to be paid?

0:34:480:34:51

-I've got my card. You could transfer it over. I'll pay it now.

-Well, you can pay the 2,257 then.

0:34:510:34:56

No, it needs to be full, so...

0:34:560:34:59

They're saying it has to be full.

0:34:590:35:01

Because the owner isn't willing to pay the full amount, Lawrence takes it to the next level.

0:35:010:35:07

-I'm going to start doing an inventory now. I'm getting...

-Can I just wait?

0:35:070:35:11

We're not getting anywhere. We've been having this conversation now for 20 minutes.

0:35:110:35:15

No! I do, I do, but not everything!

0:35:170:35:20

What about couches? What about all the furniture?

0:35:200:35:24

Yes, but everything else. Everything else, like the CCT...

0:35:260:35:30

-What about everything else?

-CCTV, lighting, sound system...

0:35:300:35:34

-We're about to open as well.

-Wet stock.

-Right now, we're about to open.

0:35:340:35:38

We're about to open now!

0:35:380:35:41

We're about to open now, all right? Right now.

0:35:410:35:44

It's quarter past.

0:35:440:35:46

OK, listen, we can't talk... We need to sort it out right now, basically.

0:35:460:35:52

Everyone's here as well, you know.

0:35:520:35:54

It's now five minutes to opening time.

0:35:540:35:57

The owner wants to ask Lawrence why he wasn't given advance warning about the sheriff's visit.

0:35:570:36:02

No, it doesn't work like that, sir.

0:36:020:36:05

We don't notify people we're arriving,

0:36:050:36:08

because otherwise the club might well have been shut when we got here.

0:36:080:36:12

We've come when... We've come...

0:36:120:36:15

We've come at this time of night because the club is open.

0:36:150:36:18

If you can be here in an hour, you can be here in an hour, sir,

0:36:180:36:21

but we will be charging £181.50 plus VAT on top for waiting time.

0:36:210:36:26

Right, sir. You need to... You need to come here and pay us in full

0:36:260:36:31

and pay whatever waiting time has clocked up by the time you get here. That's all I can say.

0:36:310:36:37

Lawrence's tactic of raising the stakes has worked.

0:36:370:36:41

Hello.

0:36:410:36:42

The owner says he'll put cash into his son's account so he can pay by card.

0:36:420:36:47

He said he's going to put it in now, so...

0:36:470:36:50

The thing is, I'm not... Hello.

0:36:510:36:54

It won't go now, no, the card?

0:36:540:36:56

No, he's... No, don't... Make sure he's put it in there.

0:36:560:37:01

What you don't want is, to put it in there, have it declined and then you try again,

0:37:010:37:05

and then the card company will tell you to go away.

0:37:050:37:09

You need to wait till you've verified with your dad

0:37:090:37:12

that he's put the money in and then we'll do the payment.

0:37:120:37:15

The owner's son goes to open the club and organise the transfer of funds into his account.

0:37:150:37:22

Lawrence is starting to think he may get the unpaid licensing consultant's money after all.

0:37:220:37:27

-It looks like it, yeah.

-Don't say that yet.

-Eventually. No.

0:37:270:37:30

-Don't say that yet.

-No, it looks like it. Nothing's in the bag yet.

-I wouldn't hold your breath.

0:37:300:37:35

The nightclub has just opened,

0:37:350:37:38

but the music on offer isn't to Lawrence's taste.

0:37:380:37:42

I don't like any of this modern music.

0:37:420:37:45

-Once it gets past the '80s, I don't want to know.

-"Can't understand what they're saying!"

0:37:450:37:49

-Yeah, a bit of Midge Ure, Ultravox.

-What?

0:37:490:37:52

Yeah. "Oh, Vienna."

0:37:520:37:54

No?

0:37:540:37:56

No idea. No idea, mate.

0:37:560:37:59

-No!

-I don't know what you're talking about.

0:37:590:38:01

-You don't know who Midge Ure is?

-No.

0:38:010:38:04

Kev's music history lesson will have to continue some other time.

0:38:040:38:09

The owner's son has returned and he has news.

0:38:090:38:13

-Has he done it?

-Yeah. It's all done.

0:38:130:38:16

If you want to stick your card in there.

0:38:160:38:18

And put your pin in.

0:38:200:38:22

There's your receipt. OK? That's it.

0:38:270:38:30

-And we're all done.

-All right.

0:38:300:38:33

The nightclub owners decided not to respond

0:38:330:38:36

to the County Court judgment when they opened the letter.

0:38:360:38:39

They didn't take it seriously as they were under the impression

0:38:390:38:42

they'd paid the licensing consultant what he was owed.

0:38:420:38:46

To be honest, he just thought it was a load of nonsense.

0:38:460:38:48

He didn't think he would take it that far if he's been paid.

0:38:480:38:52

He thought he was having it on, having a go, so...

0:38:520:38:55

-Right.

-But obviously... Yeah.

0:38:550:38:58

But obviously not.

0:38:580:39:01

It's been a long night and a tough negotiation,

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but, thankfully, there was no need to call the police.

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They're always a battle. It's very rare you don't get a battle.

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But I was just pleased that, you know, we weren't overrun by drunken revellers

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and there was just a general nuisance everywhere, but there wasn't.

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It took us straight into his office out the back and it was all dealt with quietly and amicably.

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Couldn't have asked for more, really.

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Lawrence always enjoys getting money back for his clients.

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What I find satisfying is no two days are the same.

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You never know what you're going to experience.

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And it is satisfying collecting money, at the end of the day,

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from somebody who didn't want to pay.

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Because everybody should pay their debts, in my opinion.

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I pay my way through life and I don't see why anybody else should be any different.

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And it does stop businesses going under.

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It stops people losing their homes, if we're out there collecting money for them.

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And it won't be long before Lawrence and Kev are back on the road again.

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It's now three months since Lawrence and Kev went to the art gallery in London.

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Soon after their visit, the owner made a part-payment to his aggrieved customer.

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But the customer wants all his money back,

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so soon the sheriffs will return.

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And this time, they WILL remove paintings.

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Mark and Kev, braving tropical conditions to get the pub's ex-employee

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the £2,000 unfair dismissal money, was clearly time well spent.

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At home in Brazil, she now has her cash

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and she's delighted she enlisted the help of the sheriffs.

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But in Bournemouth, despite Lawrence and Kev's best efforts,

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David Hart still hasn't got his buggy money back from Mr Humphreys.

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Would I do it again?

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Trust somebody? Yeah. I would. I do trust people.

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He may have had a bad experience on his first buggy venture,

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but David isn't giving up on his dream.

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My daughter said, "Are we going to get another one?"

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Hopefully.

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Hopefully. We'll wait and see. We'll wait and see.

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And if the sheriffs get their way,

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David's dream will be realised sooner rather than later.

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Robert Baker was made redundant after he tried to return to work

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following a kidney transplant. He won an employment tribunal,

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but his ex-boss hasn't paid a penny.

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Can the sheriffs put that right?

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The total outstanding - £8,621.20.

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And they might be worth £31.4 billion in revenue,

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but no company is too big for the sheriffs to take on,

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on behalf of an unhappy customer.

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It's High Court enforcement. We've been issued a writ for Barclays Wealth.

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And office manager Joan Wales won her compensation claim for unfair dismissal

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but never got her cash.

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The sheriffs go to the home of her former boss.

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If you want to call the police, call the police.

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They want to take his car to pay the debt, but he's got different ideas.

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You'll be obstructing a court officer from doing their job, which you can get arrested for.

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Try it. Go for your life.

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