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-Meet the Sheriffs. -Let's introduce ourselves. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
We're enforcement officers. We're here to execute a High Court writ. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
They're the men whose job it is to get you your money back. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
It's an arrestable offence to stop me doing my job. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
If you've been ripped off and don't know where turn... | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
I'm not waiting any more. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
I'm ordered to seize goods to clear this debt, | 0:00:17 | 0:00:19 | |
which would mean clearing this place out. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
If you've been to court but still not been paid what you're owed. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
Why don't you tell me who you are? | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
This is an absolute crock. You need to pay this. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
The High Court Enforcement Officers are charged by law | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
to recover what a court says is rightfully yours. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
I've seized your car, sir. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
-Let us through the door, or we'll go through the window. -Whoa. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:39 | |
-It's time to call the Sheriffs. -I've collected £42,000. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:44 | |
Coming up... | 0:00:46 | 0:00:48 | |
Farmer Brian Nutter got fleeced after shearing 3,000 sheep. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
It's just a poor do when I go and shear a sheep for a man | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
that I know and won't pay me. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
Sheriff Pete pays the debtor a visit. | 0:00:58 | 0:01:01 | |
Will they pull the wool over his eyes? | 0:01:01 | 0:01:02 | |
Unless he's sold them already there's 3,000 sheep that we'll seize. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
Lawrence and Kev pay a visit to aeroplane giant Airbus | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
to get money back for a man whose factory job ruined his hearing. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:15 | |
We're here today to seize goods to the value of £42,000. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:19 | |
Can they convince the £26bn company this is a debt that needs paying? | 0:01:19 | 0:01:25 | |
And Marc and Tony take on a Luton car yard. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
If it's nothing to do with you, why don't you just tell me who you are? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
On a rainy morning in West Yorkshire, Sheriffs Pete Spencer | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
and Dave Crabtree are heading deep into farming country | 0:01:41 | 0:01:44 | |
looking to get another member of the public back money | 0:01:44 | 0:01:47 | |
that's rightfully theirs. | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
Right, first job is Todmorden. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
Believe it's a farm that we're going to, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:55 | |
so hopefully today there'll be some farming equipment. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
The man they're on their way to help is Lancashire farmer Brian Nutter. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:02 | |
Like most farmers these days, he's having to work harder and harder | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
for smaller and smaller returns. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
So, when a neighbouring farmer reneges on a contract to pay, | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
leaving him thousands of pounds out of pocket | 0:02:14 | 0:02:16 | |
and relying on the Sheriffs for help, it's a serious matter. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:21 | |
We have to pay our bills, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
y'know, we can't get away with not paying our bills, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:26 | |
so why should he get away with not paying his bills? | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
For over 20 years, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:37 | |
Brian Nutter's life has been all about sheep. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:43 | |
Everybody says sheep are stupid. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
They're very clever, are sheep. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:47 | |
His passion for these woolly beasts | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
has seen him develop into one of the fastest shearers in the North West. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
I was 16 when I sheared my first sheep. | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
Shearing, it's all where your feet go. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
They say, shearing 300 sheep a day is equivalent to running a marathon. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
Brian's steady hand and years of experience | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
meant sheep owners flocked to engage his services. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:18 | |
As his shearing business grew, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:19 | |
it took him to farms across the country. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
But Brian's fortunes took a turn for the worse | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
when a local farmer named Andrew Barker came to him | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
with an especially tough assignment. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
I've known him for a couple of years, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
but he asked me to shear his sheep. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:37 | |
It was just short of three thousand, | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
we sheared for him in total. A very big job. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
The scale of the job meant Brian needed help | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
and he took on two extra shearers to share the work. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
He struck a deal with Mr Barker at the going rate | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
of £1 per sheep. | 0:03:54 | 0:03:56 | |
After five exhausting days | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
providing much needed trims to each of the farmer's 2,968 sheep, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:04 | |
Brian was looking forward to a well-earned pay-day. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
But with the huge crop of wool safely in the bag, | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
despite numerous promises from the farmer | 0:04:13 | 0:04:16 | |
this much-needed payment never arrived. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
You trust people, but it's just a poor ado | 0:04:20 | 0:04:23 | |
when I go and shear a sheep for a man that I know | 0:04:23 | 0:04:25 | |
and won't pay me. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
He's no loyalty to the people that work for him. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
He owes me £3,000 and I've paid my shearers nearly £2,000, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:35 | |
of that money for the work that they did for me. | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
I'm nearly £5,000 out of pocket | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
He's made money out of me going shearing the sheep | 0:04:40 | 0:04:43 | |
because he can sell his wool. | 0:04:43 | 0:04:45 | |
So, yeah, you do get angry. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
Having been forced to pay his shearers out of his own savings, | 0:04:48 | 0:04:51 | |
Brian was determined not to let Mr Barker fleece him. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
After two years without payment | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
he decided the only way to get his money was to sue the errant farmer. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
When the case went to court, | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
the farmer admitted liability and was ordered to repay the money. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
But despite this ruling, | 0:05:08 | 0:05:09 | |
Brian found Mr Barker still wasn't ready to pay up what he owed. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:14 | |
It took him three months before I got the first cheques, | 0:05:15 | 0:05:19 | |
and then I only got them because I went for them. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:22 | |
I said to him, "If these cheques are going to bounce, let me know, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:27 | |
"and I won't put them in the bank." He told me that they would clear. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:30 | |
And as I said, the first two cheques bounced, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
and the third one cleared, but he told me not to put that one in, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
so, I mean I've been right with him, all along, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
but he hasn't been right with me. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
With Barker breaking his promise to the court | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
and having no other way of enforcing the agreement to pay, | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
Brian's last hope of seeing his money now rests with the Sheriffs. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:55 | |
And Brian has a suggestion for how they could clear the debt. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
It's a solution harking back to the Saxon days of the Sheriffs, | 0:05:58 | 0:06:03 | |
when seizing livestock was an everyday occurrence. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:07 | |
It wouldn't really take a lot of sheep... | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
... maybe 70 or 80 sheep would pay the debt at a realistic valuation. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
It's now down to Sheriffs, Pete and Dave, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
to give this country yarn its final twist. | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
And when it comes to potentially seizing livestock, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:27 | |
Pete's not one to be sheepish. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:31 | |
Unless he's sold them already, there's 3,000 sheep that we'll see. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
And we'll send Dave to round 'em up. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
Potentially they've got a value and they're owned by the debtor, | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
so we can seize and remove to sell to cover the outstanding debt. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
Before they can do anything however, they've got to find the farm. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
Could be anywhere, couldn't it? | 0:06:52 | 0:06:54 | |
Just ask her, ask her. | 0:06:54 | 0:06:56 | |
Andrew Barker, Midgeldon farm. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
It could be anywhere along here. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:06 | |
Just over t'hill. | 0:07:06 | 0:07:09 | |
And just over the hill they find Midgeldon Farm. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:13 | |
They're on site for only a few moments before debtor Andrew Barker | 0:07:15 | 0:07:19 | |
makes an appearance. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:21 | |
I've got a live High Court writ. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:23 | |
That's the reason for our attendance today. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
-In the connection with a Mr Brian Nutter. -Oh, right. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
-Did he do some sheep shearing for you or something? -Oh, yeah. -OK. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:34 | |
There's £4,038.74 outstanding | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
-which is the reason for our visit and we've come to collect it. -Right. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:42 | |
-Right. -How would you like to pay? | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
Cash, credit card, debit card? | 0:07:46 | 0:07:48 | |
Right OK, so cash or bank transfer are the two options then for you. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:57 | |
At this point, our cameraman is asked to leave the farm. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
Pete wants to know more about the dispute | 0:08:08 | 0:08:11 | |
and makes some discreet inquiries. | 0:08:11 | 0:08:13 | |
So, what did he do, shear 3,000 sheep for you or something? | 0:08:13 | 0:08:17 | |
Did you not pay him then? | 0:08:17 | 0:08:18 | |
But Mr Barker's more worried about finding the money. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
He asks Pete for an extra day to pay. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
I can't. I've got to attend today. It's a live writ to attend today, | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
which is to collect the total amount or seize goods to the value of. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:31 | |
Obviously we've already got your Land Rover. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
Erm, so is this yours, this Toyota? | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
With the threat of having his vehicles seized hanging over him, | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
Mr Barker promises to pay in the next five days | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
and Pete's inclined to believe he will. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
If I seize items to protect the outstanding debt, OK, | 0:08:46 | 0:08:50 | |
so it's going to be the property of the court until five days. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
So if I give you until Monday to pay it. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
As long as we've received that by Monday, we won't be coming back. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
The farmer agrees to sign the walking possession agreement | 0:09:02 | 0:09:05 | |
giving the court ownership of his vehicles and livestock | 0:09:05 | 0:09:08 | |
on paper at least. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
The seizure will be lifted once he pays up. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
Happy with the result, Pete wraps things up. | 0:09:13 | 0:09:16 | |
I'll give you all the information, yeah? | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
That's all the information there. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
Our account details are there | 0:09:22 | 0:09:23 | |
and I'll give you till next Monday to sort that out. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:26 | |
Pete's hopeful the farmer will be good to his word and pay up. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:31 | |
After all, there's plenty of removable assets on his farm, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
including vehicles and livestock. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
If the money's not forthcoming, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:38 | |
Pete will be straight back to remove them. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
He said he doesn't have a credit/debit card which I can believe | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
so it's going to be cash, he's going to get the cash together, | 0:09:44 | 0:09:47 | |
go into the bank and make the payment. | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
He seems confident he's going to come up with the full amount, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
so hopefully by Monday, we'll see it in our client's holding account. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:57 | |
And, a few days later... | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
..Brian Nutter got the phone call he's been waiting for | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
since he first got in contact with the Sheriffs. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
Well, it's Dave the Sheriff. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
That's all right, is that, it has to happen yet! | 0:10:11 | 0:10:13 | |
Time will tell. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
And the good news is, the cheque cleared. Payment in full. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:21 | |
On their way to their latest job are Sheriffs Marc Newton and Tony Smith. | 0:10:30 | 0:10:34 | |
We're just on our way up the M1 now to Luton. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:39 | |
We've got a company called Carland Direct. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:43 | |
The amount outstanding for this writ is £3,239. | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
Carland Direct are a garage who sold a faulty car | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
to one of their customers, Maryam Awan. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:54 | |
They fixed the car, but then made her pay for repairs, | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
so the matter ended up in court. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:00 | |
Carland Direct didn't attend and the court ruled in Maryam's favour. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:04 | |
And now, she wants her money back. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
Arriving at Carland Direct's vast Luton forecourt, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:13 | |
Marc and Tony head for the main office. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
Can they convince the company they need to pay off this debt? | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
HE KNOCKS DOOR | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
-Hello, mate. -Hello, mate. You all right? -Yeah, good. You? | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
We've got a High Court Writ that's been issued. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
Who's it for, sorry? | 0:11:26 | 0:11:27 | |
-Carland Direct Ltd. -Who's it from? | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
A Maryam Awan. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
-Can we talk outside, if you don't mind? -Yeah, no problem. Yeah. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
While the Carland Direct manager has no choice | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
but to talk to Marc and Tony, we're asked to leave the premises. | 0:11:39 | 0:11:43 | |
The manager says he's just an employee | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
and therefore can't initiate any payment. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
He says the company director, Mr Shahbaz Khan, | 0:11:49 | 0:11:53 | |
is away and not back for a day or so. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
But Marc can't wait till tomorrow. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
You need to get hold of him, or someone needs to pay this. | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
The amount outstanding is £3,239.44. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
Problem is, if you don't, we're going to start removing. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
We have to seize goods today. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
The man says he doesn't have the £3,000 needed to pay the debt. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:14 | |
I'm not being funny, but that's not our problem. | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
-We've got a High Court writ. -It's a live writ. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
Suddenly, the manager changes his story. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:22 | |
Instead of the next day, the boss is apparently arriving | 0:12:22 | 0:12:26 | |
in a couple of hours and it's his job to pick him up from the airport. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
But Marc thinks there's something fishy about it all. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:34 | |
I don't know. He says he's... | 0:12:34 | 0:12:36 | |
He says... He's coming back in two or three days, | 0:12:36 | 0:12:40 | |
now he's going to get him in an hour? | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
But the manager's still sticking to his story. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
Marc asks which airport he's collecting Mr Shahbaz Khan from | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
and he's not entirely sure. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
Possibly Stansted or maybe Heathrow... | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
Surely you must know what airport you're going to? | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
So he's landing at three o'clock and you haven't left yet? | 0:12:57 | 0:13:00 | |
Now, like, quarter to three? | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
So, you're not going to get there in an hour and five mins? | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
The man's inconsistent story is frustrating Marc. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
He's been there for an hour and a half | 0:13:09 | 0:13:11 | |
and there's no sign of any payment or a director allowed to make one. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:16 | |
Tony decides to step things up. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
He's had an hour. We ain't waiting all day. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:23 | |
-I'll start clamping that one and that one. -All right. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:25 | |
Just clamp it, clamp it. I'm not interested, clamp it. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:35 | |
-How are you getting on? -I'm (BLEEP) dirty. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
Just throw it round the bottom. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:40 | |
-I want to do it properly. -Just throw it round the bottom. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:43 | |
The manager isn't happy about seeing one of the cars being clamped, | 0:13:43 | 0:13:48 | |
particularly as his own Porsche is sat on the forecourt. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
We're not taking it, we're just cleaning it. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
-I'm not waiting anymore. -We've given you an hour. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
Come on. We've been here waiting for an hour. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
Although the man says he's just an employee, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
Marc thinks he's more senior than he lets on, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
and well capable of initiating payment. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
Who are you then? Who are you? Who are you? | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
-What's your name? -You're the guy who works here who drives the Porsche? | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
So, you must get paid good wages, mustn't you, for a car salesman? | 0:14:13 | 0:14:17 | |
-Don't treat me like an idiot. -You must have a few quid if you're driving that. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
With the clamps now out, | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
the manager's worried enough about his Porsche to drive off in it, | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
while Marc and Tony are busy with the BMW. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
Is he on his way to Heathrow? | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
Wherever he's headed, Marc decides to open up a second front. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:36 | |
He leaves Tony on the forecourt, while he heads off in his van | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
to the company director's home address | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
to see if there's anybody there that could pay the debt. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
We've got an address for the director, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
which is just round the corner so as he's gone off, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
I thought what we might do is pop round to the house round the corner. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
We're not getting anywhere and I think he thinks we're just going to leave. So... | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
He's going to be in for a bit of a shock, because we don't. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
Wow, what a surprise(!) | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
Rather than being on its way to Heathrow, | 0:15:10 | 0:15:12 | |
the manager's Porsche is outside the director's house. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
Is the manager inside? | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
Marc gives the house a knock, but whoever's there, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
they don't want to talk to him. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:24 | |
Still getting nowhere near any payment, | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
Marc rings Tony to tell him to start the procedure | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
-to tow the clamped cars. -Give Lawrence a ring | 0:15:30 | 0:15:32 | |
and start organising tow trucks for this cos the Porsche is parked outside the house | 0:15:32 | 0:15:36 | |
and he's not opening the door. He's just mucking us about, really. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
Marc thinks the manager's inside the house. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
But in fact, he's just round the corner in another car. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:46 | |
And not in a good mood. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:48 | |
HORN BLARES | 0:15:48 | 0:15:50 | |
I'm trying to get hold of the director. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:03 | |
If you don't mind, stop filming me. I don't consent to you filming me. | 0:16:03 | 0:16:06 | |
Please explain to me why you are here? | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
-If you clamp a vehicle that's worth 15 grand. -Yeah. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
-That's 3 grand. -I'm trying to get hold of the person, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
-but it's nothing to do with you? -Why are you here? | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
Because I'm getting lied to constantly. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:17 | |
No, you're not. Number's there on the board. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
The vehicle you clamp, what's the next step? | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
We're going to remove it. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:24 | |
I'm not going to wait, I told you that, I'm not going to wait. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
Marc wants to know why, if the manager is just an employee, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:31 | |
he's so worked up about his attempts to get hold of Shahbaz Khan. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:35 | |
If it's nothing to do with you, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
it's a bit weird how the car that you drive | 0:16:37 | 0:16:39 | |
turns up outside the director's home address but it's nothing to do with you! | 0:16:39 | 0:16:43 | |
Why don't you just tell me who you are? | 0:16:43 | 0:16:44 | |
You've got something to hide if you won't tell me who you are. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
You could refer to me as Mr Ahmed if you want. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
That's no problem. That's my surname, Mr Ahmed. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:52 | |
OK, so call me Mr Ahmed. Mr Ahmed. | 0:16:52 | 0:16:55 | |
If you don't mind pointing that away. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
Why don't we get out of the road because we could get run over. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
-If you give me some time... -We've given you time! -I know, but... | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
-You've had an hour and a half... -I know, but... -...and done nothing. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
Our director is not in the UK. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
We're trying to locate him and bring him to you... | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
Well, you told me earlier he's coming in on a flight at 3pm. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
-That's correct. -It's now 25 past three | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
and he's coming in on a flight that's over an hour away from here. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
You're going to get him, so he'll not be here, while you're talking to me. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
I'll phone someone else to pick him up, OK? | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
-So, please, bear with us. -I'm going to back the car yard, | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
-because we're getting nowhere here. -Please bear with us. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
-We are trying to help you. -OK. Thank you very much. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:32 | |
Marc heads back to Carland Direct's forecourt. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:36 | |
He still doesn't know where the company director is, | 0:17:36 | 0:17:39 | |
or where any money's coming from. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:41 | |
If he doesn't get something soon, | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
he'll reluctantly have to tow away the cars. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
Don't want to remove goods, y'know. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:48 | |
Everyone ends up with more to do and basically at the end of it, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:53 | |
it's the same result apart from the defendant, it's cost them more money. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:57 | |
It's a message that Tony, meanwhile, has been trying to get across | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
to others at Carland Direct. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
He's warned them if they don't pay up, | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
they'll get hit by additional towing and Sheriff fees. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
So I said, all in all, your bill could go up £1,500. | 0:18:10 | 0:18:13 | |
Then he got straight on the phone to him and he's coming back. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
Soon after, another Carland Direct employee, Daniel, emerges. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:21 | |
He may not be the company director, but he does agree to pay, in full. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:26 | |
It's got to be the full amount. Not a penny less, not a penny more. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
Finally, victory for the Sheriffs. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
Marc and Tony's assertive tactics | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
and refusal to get brow-beaten have come up trumps. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:39 | |
Carland Direct arrange for the money to get transferred in full. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
They're also keen to put their side of the story. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
We buy and sell cars. Probably about over 100 a month. | 0:18:47 | 0:18:50 | |
So one or two, we are going to have a few issues. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:52 | |
Carland Direct, if we do have any issues, we do deal with them. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:56 | |
Happy days, all done. | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
If anybody wants to buy any cars, come down to Carland Direct. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
We're more than happy to... | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
Although at times frustrating, | 0:19:03 | 0:19:04 | |
Marc's got what he wanted from the job, | 0:19:04 | 0:19:07 | |
a payment in full. | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
In total was about 2.5 hours on that job. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
Total collected was £3,239 | 0:19:11 | 0:19:15 | |
of which they paid just over £1,000 in cash and the rest on a debit card. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
It's another score for the Sheriffs | 0:19:19 | 0:19:22 | |
and, more importantly, means Maryam Awan | 0:19:22 | 0:19:24 | |
getting back the money a court of law says is rightfully hers. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:29 | |
Marc and Tony work for this High Court enforcement company | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
in South London. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
They enforce over 1,000 High Court writs every month | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
and recover over £24m of money rightfully owed to their clients. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
-Hiya. -Good morning, sir. My name's Mr Grix, I'm an enforcement officer. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:53 | |
These days a High Court writ costs £60. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:56 | |
If the Sheriffs are successful, | 0:19:56 | 0:19:58 | |
there's nothing more for the client to pay. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
We're looking for full payment or removal today. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
If they're unsuccessful, the only cost is a £60 admin fee. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
So, that's the payment in full. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
Sir, we cannot leave until that money hits our bank account. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
For every pound the Sheriffs are asked to enforce | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
on average, they collect 93p, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:22 | |
but despite their high ratio of success, | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
life isn't always easy for them. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
Today, Sheriffs Marc and Tony are on the road again, | 0:20:27 | 0:20:31 | |
this time on their way to meet one of their trickiest ever adversaries. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
We're off to Chingford in East London... | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
looking for a company called the QC Laboratory Ltd. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
The amount we're looking for in this is £11,673. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:49 | |
QC Laboratory made employee Teresa Kelly redundant | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
after she'd worked for them for 23 years. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
An employment tribunal ruled she was sacked without proper procedure | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
and wasn't paid the redundancy money, wages | 0:21:00 | 0:21:03 | |
or holiday pay she was owed. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:05 | |
So today, it's Marc's job to try and get her that money back. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:09 | |
Down this alleyway, I think, mate. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
They arrive and pull up. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
They're looking for boss, Andrew Jennings. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
After knocking at the office, a man answers | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
and says he's not the boss, but that he does know him. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
-We're after the QC Laboratory? -Nah, he's left. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
-Do you know how long they left? -They went into liquidation before Xmas. | 0:21:31 | 0:21:36 | |
The man says he runs a different company at the same address. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
But Marc wants proof the two are not connected | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
and asks to see any letters or correspondence | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
which might prove which company's based at the address. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
You haven't got something with that on postal-wise have you? | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
You're (BLEEP) joking! | 0:22:01 | 0:22:02 | |
-You haven't got a business rates bill? -No. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
Phone bill? Gas bill? Electric bill? | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
-You don't pay no bills? -Any sort of bill? -No. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
-This whole building, you're saying to me, pays no bills at all? -No. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:18 | |
The man might be shy about his post, but suddenly, | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
he reveals some other crucial facts. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:24 | |
He's Alan Jennings, father of the company owner Andrew Jennings | 0:22:24 | 0:22:28 | |
and the original founder of QC Laboratory Ltd. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
He says the company's now being wound up | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
and it's his job to settle its final debts. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
-The company's still... -We're not trading any more. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
You liquidated the company, is that what you're saying? | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
Mr Jennings goes inside and Marc follows him. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
To get his client's money, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:48 | |
he might need to seize any remaining company assets. | 0:22:48 | 0:22:52 | |
As it trades in specialist laboratory equipment, | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
he's hoping there's plenty of machinery inside. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
But to take possession of it, | 0:22:58 | 0:22:59 | |
Marc needs to prove it still belongs to the company named on his writ. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:04 | |
And moments later, bingo! | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
Marc finds recent letters addressed to QC Laboratory | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
and other evidence the company is still trading. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
Just got a calibration certificate for one of these machines here | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
which was done six days ago, so for a company that's closing down | 0:23:17 | 0:23:22 | |
or going into liquidation, I don't know why you'd bother | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
getting your machines calibrated. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
-How can this come in on 1 June... -Dead easy, mate... | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
-...which is five days ago for a company... -Dead easy... | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
-... that liquidated six months ago? -Yeah. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
Because I'm selling up the assets. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
OK, but there's still assets belonging to the company. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
No, there isn't any assets. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:42 | |
Well, you're going to need to show me proof that none of this belongs. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
How can I show you proof? | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
-Well, if you can't, we're going to be removing it. -Oh, well, all right, OK. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:53 | |
Yeah? OK, well, I'll start listing this. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
The company assets are in line to be removed, | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
only problem is, the value of the ageing machinery | 0:24:00 | 0:24:04 | |
is unlikely to cover the £12,000 debt | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
and, with the company being wound up, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
Mr Jennings feels he's got little to lose by refusing to pay. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:14 | |
-So do you want to pay? -I don't want to pay. What is it? | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
-The outstanding amount. -What is it? -£11,673. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:22 | |
-I would not pay a penny. -We're going to start removing goods then. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:25 | |
-I would not pay a penny. You're not going to pay a penny? -No. -Right, OK. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:31 | |
It becomes clear that Mr Jennings has no interest | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
in settling the debt he owes to his ex-employee. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
I would not pay her one penny. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
I'll pay her a pound, that's all I think she's worth. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
-Well, the position we're in... -I know the position. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
You keep on with... So what you want to do? | 0:24:47 | 0:24:52 | |
-What do you mean? -There's tools, do you want to take them? -I can. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
Well, if that's what the claimant wants us to do... | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
Despite his machinery being in jeopardy, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
there's only one asset Mr Jennings seems determined to hold on to. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:12 | |
All right. I won't take that. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
Unfortunately for us at this stage, the goods in there | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
are never going to cover this debt | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
and the machinery by the time we've got that out and taken that away, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:31 | |
we're probably not even going to cover the removal costs. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:34 | |
We're just in a position now where we're trying | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
to sort of see if he wants to pay something. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
Obviously, he's had a big falling-out with the claimant | 0:25:40 | 0:25:42 | |
and doesn't want to pay. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
We'll hang on in here for a while, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
we'll list all the goods and see where we go from here, really. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
-Look, if you can't pay anything today... -I told you I can... | 0:25:53 | 0:25:57 | |
No, not a pound. Let's be sensible about this. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:01 | |
With little of value on site and Mr Jennings un-cooperative, | 0:26:01 | 0:26:05 | |
it's now down to whether Marc can persuade him | 0:26:05 | 0:26:07 | |
it's in his interests to pay. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
We'll see how he gets on later. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
It's 8am in Essex. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:22 | |
This morning, Sheriffs Lawrence and Kev | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
are chasing up a debt from another employment tribunal. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:30 | |
This time, they're on route to an unusual destination - | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
a swimming pool design centre called Poolman Leisure Group Limited. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:39 | |
They're going there on behalf of a woman | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
who was dismissed without notice by the company | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
and not given the redundancy money she was entitled to. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
Her case went before an employment tribunal | 0:26:47 | 0:26:50 | |
where it was contested. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:52 | |
The court ruled in her favour and awarded £7,248 in compensation | 0:26:52 | 0:26:59 | |
spread over nine monthly instalments, but this hasn't been paid as agreed | 0:26:59 | 0:27:04 | |
and several thousand pounds remain outstanding. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
It's now down to Lawrence and Kev to do what they do best | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
and get her the money she's owed. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:15 | |
We've found it and we're here. Poolman Swimming Pools, look. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
Several of his swimming pools are on display | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
but there's no sign of the Pool Man. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:29 | |
It seems Lawrence and Kev may be a bit early. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
Yeah, we'll sit in the van and wait from them to turn up. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
Sort of hide ourselves away, be discreet. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:40 | |
While keeping a low profile, Lawrence's first instinct | 0:27:41 | 0:27:45 | |
is to size up what goods could potentially be seized | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
to settle the debt. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
They appear to have quite a bit here in the way of assets. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
I would imagine that trailer's theirs for a start, | 0:27:54 | 0:27:56 | |
that's next to us. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:58 | |
As well as the trailer, seizing the swimming pools themselves | 0:27:58 | 0:28:02 | |
could prove an even stronger bargaining tool. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
However, Lawrence has a different plan for his own garden. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:08 | |
-I'd rather have a hot tub. -Yeah, you would, wouldn't you? | 0:28:08 | 0:28:10 | |
Where you've got built-in seats, bubbles, speakers... | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
You can sit there and you know, nice hot tub with a drink | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
and listen to some music. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
But for Lawrence and Kev, this is no time for relaxation. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
Within five minutes, a woman arrives and starts to open up. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:28 | |
Might as well go in, hadn't we? Yeah. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
-Hi there. -Morning. Poolman Leisure Group Limited? | 0:28:32 | 0:28:36 | |
The lady inside is only an employee. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
She tries to get through to the owner | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
but can only reach his voicemail. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
As the waiting game continues, | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
Kev debates the practicalities of seizing a swimming pool. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:51 | |
They'd have to drain it, obviously, | 0:28:51 | 0:28:53 | |
and then get someone in to dismantle it. We wouldn't know how to do that. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
It shouldn't be too difficult. | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
Unless the owner shows up and pays up, | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
all this could be leaving with the Sheriffs. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
Just in time a man appears. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:11 | |
Is this the elusive Pool Man? | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
-Hi there. -Hello there, sir. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
I'll just show you some ID. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
Mr Grix, the enforcement officer. | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
We've got a High Court writ against Poolman Leisure Group Ltd. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
We're here today to seize goods to the value of £3,834.18. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:31 | |
To prevent further action today, it needs to be paid in full. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
Straight away there's a problem. | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
The owner argues he's paying the debt by monthly instalments, | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
as agreed and can't understand why the Sheriffs have come calling. | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
Worried there's been a mix-up, Kev gets in touch with the office. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:49 | |
Has that amount been paid, as he said, to confirm? | 0:29:49 | 0:29:52 | |
Yep, OK. | 0:29:52 | 0:29:54 | |
OK, thank you. Bye. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
It's now clear exactly what's triggered this enforcement. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
The owner decided to withhold almost half | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
of the first court-ordered payment of £600 | 0:30:05 | 0:30:08 | |
for money he says he already paid to the claimant. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:12 | |
Lawrence explains that by not paying the debt as agreed, | 0:30:12 | 0:30:15 | |
he's violated the terms of the court's judgment | 0:30:15 | 0:30:18 | |
and now the full outstanding amount is due. | 0:30:18 | 0:30:21 | |
Because the £600 wasn't paid on the 17th July, | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
because it was only £350 which he's told us there, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:28 | |
she has the right to get us to enforce it. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:32 | |
The owner is far from happy, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
but knows there's only one way to stop Lawrence and Kev | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
leaving with a swimming pool in the back of their van. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
To pay up. | 0:30:39 | 0:30:41 | |
He asks for half an hour to find the money. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
Bit of a palaver. | 0:30:45 | 0:30:47 | |
You know, really, you can't be taken off... | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
if the court orders you to pay £600, you pay £600. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:54 | |
But I did sort of put him in the picture | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
and let him know, quite categorically, where we stand on it. | 0:30:57 | 0:31:02 | |
Having made arrangements the owner invites them back to his office | 0:31:02 | 0:31:06 | |
to take full payment. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:07 | |
And with that, the Sheriffs are on their way. | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
That was paid in full by debit card. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
So, yeah, happy days. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
Back in Essex, and Marc and Tony are still on the premises | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
of QC Laboratory Ltd, trying to convince former boss | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
Alan Jennings to pay up £12,000 owed to former employee Teresa Kelly. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:42 | |
She'd worked for the company for 23 years, before she was made redundant | 0:31:42 | 0:31:47 | |
without receiving the payment she was owed. | 0:31:47 | 0:31:49 | |
I would not pay her one penny. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
Unfortunately, Mr Jennings is proving a handful, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
unwilling to pay up and only too aware of the limited value | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
of those company assets on site. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
Are you going to pay any money? | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
Yeah, I told you, one pound. | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
-No, any sensible amount of money? -No. | 0:32:09 | 0:32:12 | |
But this is one of its debts. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
But Mr Jennings has other things on his mind. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:22 | |
Will they make me a star out of this? | 0:32:22 | 0:32:25 | |
-I think you might be. -I think you could be. | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
You've got that Bruce Willis look about you. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
Have I? | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
But even Bruce Willis would struggle to get money out of Mr Jennings. | 0:32:35 | 0:32:39 | |
Do you want to give us some money, Alan? | 0:32:39 | 0:32:41 | |
-None at all. A pound. -Don't go on about a pound. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:46 | |
-Never parting with more than a pound? -That's right, mate. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:54 | |
Marc's having little luck getting payment | 0:32:54 | 0:32:56 | |
and Mr Jennings has threats of his own... | 0:32:56 | 0:32:59 | |
-No, you can't lock us in. -Why not? | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
-Because that would be imprisonment. -We'd have you nicked for that. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:11 | |
You look like you want to go to the gym! | 0:33:19 | 0:33:24 | |
I'm 73, mate. I am (BLEEP) knackered from my last job. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:29 | |
With Mr Jennings refusing to budge, there's not much more Marc can do. | 0:33:30 | 0:33:35 | |
He seizes on paper what assets he can see, | 0:33:35 | 0:33:38 | |
but they're not worth much and Alan Jennings knows it. | 0:33:38 | 0:33:41 | |
And with that, Marc and Tony call it a day. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
All right, we're leaving a list of goods with you. | 0:33:44 | 0:33:47 | |
-We're not going to take them. -Oh, please. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:48 | |
You've got seven days in which to prove they don't belong to the company. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:54 | |
We can come back at any time. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:56 | |
-Any time you like. -Even if you're here, we can come back. | 0:33:56 | 0:33:59 | |
-And force entry. -And force entry to remove these goods. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:02 | |
YOU cannot take them goods out of here now. | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
But you can't. I'm letting you know. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
-See you later. -Seven days. -Or maybe not, if you pay. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:24 | |
We've listed the goods and we're leaving. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
We're not going to get anywhere. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
It's been a tricky trip for Marc. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
He's played everything by the book, | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
but when there's nothing like of seizable assets | 0:34:38 | 0:34:40 | |
to use as leverage, | 0:34:40 | 0:34:41 | |
even Sheriffs can hit an Alan Jennings' sized brick-wall. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:46 | |
The goods in there were of no value. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
He just seemed quite happy to say that he'd give us a quid, | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
constantly and I actually do think if we did go to that extreme with him | 0:34:53 | 0:34:58 | |
and start taking everything out and cleared that whole place out, | 0:34:58 | 0:35:02 | |
I just think he'd go, "Oh, whatever, I'll just go home." | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
I don't think he's that bothered. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:06 | |
Mr Jennings now has seven days to pay. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:10 | |
Whether he will remains to be seen. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
In the van and on the M4 to Bristol are Sheriffs Lawrence and Kev. | 0:35:23 | 0:35:28 | |
They've been specially hired to pay a visit | 0:35:30 | 0:35:32 | |
to a major multi-national company. | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
The man that's hired them is solicitor Amar Alyas. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:39 | |
He specialises in fighting for compensation for people | 0:35:39 | 0:35:42 | |
that have suffered deafness through working in noisy environments. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:46 | |
And he recently took on the case of John. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:50 | |
John worked for aircraft manufacturing giant Airbus UK | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
and its predecessors for over 28 years. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
John worked in a department | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
where they would assemble the wings of aircrafts. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
The last 10 years of his work at Airbus | 0:36:07 | 0:36:10 | |
he worked on the jig as an assembler. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
He would use a lot of drills and these were extremely noisy. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:17 | |
There was air-tools as well | 0:36:17 | 0:36:19 | |
and there were many other banging noises surrounding. | 0:36:19 | 0:36:23 | |
This is the North Wales factory where John, | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
who doesn't want to appear on camera, worked. | 0:36:27 | 0:36:30 | |
But after nearly 30 years with the company, | 0:36:30 | 0:36:32 | |
it was clear his health wasn't what it had been. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
Suffering from heart problems, he was forced to take early retirement. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:40 | |
Soon after, his hearing worsened and he was diagnosed with tinnitus. | 0:36:40 | 0:36:46 | |
The tinnitus was quite severe, | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
so if you can imagine spending 20 mins every hour | 0:36:48 | 0:36:52 | |
having a hissing and a buzzing noise in your ears every day, | 0:36:52 | 0:36:56 | |
it's very depressing and at times | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
your confidence is very low because you cannot hear people. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
John's hearing was so bad, he couldn't get another job | 0:37:07 | 0:37:10 | |
and the loss of income meant he found himself at risk of losing something else as well. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:16 | |
John, due to his early retirement, has financial issues. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:21 | |
He's had problems with his bank in terms of his mortgage. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:25 | |
He's not been able to keep up with his mortgage repayments | 0:37:25 | 0:37:28 | |
The bank had an order to take charge of his property | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
and to sell the property. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:32 | |
After suffering in less than silence for four years, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
John finally decided his hearing was so bad, he had to take action. | 0:37:36 | 0:37:40 | |
His case came to Amar who sent him to an expert to assess his hearing. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:45 | |
The medical expert gave a report, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:49 | |
which states that John suffered ten decibels of hearing loss. | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
That is quite noticeable hearing loss. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
Ten decibels meant John had lost the same amount of hearing | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
due to excessive noise at his job | 0:37:58 | 0:38:01 | |
as a member of the public would expect to lose | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
over half a lifetime of normal hearing loss. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:07 | |
Armed with the report, Amar set about taking John's claims to court. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:12 | |
Despite numerous attempts to get a response from Airbus, | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
they failed to contest the case. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
The judge ruled in John's favour and awarded him £31,000. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:22 | |
It's money he desperately needs to buy specialist hearing aids | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
not available on the NHS. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
First and foremost, John's going to invest in some hearing aids. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
They are in the region of £5-10,000. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Secondly, this money's going to help pay his mortgage on time, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:41 | |
keeping the bank away from taking a charge on the property | 0:38:41 | 0:38:45 | |
or getting an order from the court in terms of selling the property. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:49 | |
Despite his court victory, | 0:38:49 | 0:38:51 | |
Airbus UK have ignored all correspondence | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
relating to payment and five months on, | 0:38:54 | 0:38:56 | |
neither Amar nor John have seen any sign of the money. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
John's last hope of keeping his home, | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
and getting the hearing aid he needs, lies with the Sheriffs. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:06 | |
And while John worked at Airbus's North Wales factory, | 0:39:11 | 0:39:14 | |
it's the company's Bristol head office | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
that Lawrence and Kev are on their way to this morning. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
We've just arrived in Bristol and we're on our way at the moment | 0:39:20 | 0:39:25 | |
to Airbus UK Ltd who owe just under £42,500. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:29 | |
I'm not entirely sure what we're going to find when we get there. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:34 | |
If it's got assets we can seize them | 0:39:35 | 0:39:38 | |
and potentially remove them to be sold to clear the debt. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
And there's nothing that Lawrence won't consider seizing | 0:39:42 | 0:39:44 | |
to get his clients back the money they're owed. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:48 | |
If Airbus UK, or we have reason to believe that Airbus UK Ltd | 0:39:48 | 0:39:52 | |
owns a plane, then yes, we can seize that. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
Can we take something that's sponsored by Airbus? | 0:39:55 | 0:39:58 | |
-What have you seen? -The roundabout. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
Arriving at Airbus UK HQ, they park up and head in. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:08 | |
Security is heavy, unsurprisingly, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
for one of the world's two largest aircraft manufacturers. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:14 | |
We're asked not to enter the premises, | 0:40:14 | 0:40:17 | |
but Lawrence and Kev go inside. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:20 | |
The £42,000 they're after may seem a lot, | 0:40:20 | 0:40:24 | |
but for a company with revenues of over £26bn, | 0:40:24 | 0:40:27 | |
it's small change. | 0:40:27 | 0:40:29 | |
But whether Lawrence can convince them of that remains to be seen. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:33 | |
My name's Mr Grix, an enforcement officer. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
I'm here today to execute a High Court writ against Airbus UK Ltd. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
We're here today to seize goods to the value of £42,000. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:44 | |
After a short time inside, Lawrence emerges. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
We're just waiting for somebody to come down and see us at the moment. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:52 | |
The gentleman just wanted a business card. | 0:40:52 | 0:40:55 | |
So I'm taking him in a business card. | 0:40:55 | 0:40:56 | |
They're aware of it, they're just looking into it now | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
and then somebody's going to come down and see us. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
So they know about the judgment. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
Hopefully we might be moving on. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
Airbus may know a lot about building planes, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
but they're not clued up on how the High Court enforcement system works. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:16 | |
Lawrence fills them in. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
There's a County Court Judgement against the company. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
I've got a copy of the writ here. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
The important bit is here. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
You are now commanded to seize in execution the goods, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:28 | |
chattels and other property of the defendant authorised by law... | 0:41:28 | 0:41:32 | |
After threatening to seize Airbus UK property, | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
Lawrence and Kev are led off to a nearby building, | 0:41:34 | 0:41:37 | |
while we continue to wait outside. | 0:41:37 | 0:41:41 | |
John has been waiting nearly five months for payment from Airbus | 0:41:41 | 0:41:45 | |
and so far, got nothing. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
Lawrence and Kev, on the other hand, | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
have been waiting for less an hour when they finally emerge. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
Basically, we collected full payment. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:57 | |
They just needed to find somebody to deal with it | 0:41:57 | 0:42:00 | |
and once they did, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:03 | |
they took us down to the main office, really, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
where head of legal and head of accounts is | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
and did a bank transfer for the full amount. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
So another job paid in full. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:14 | |
That's a staggering £42,426.51, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:20 | |
including court and Sheriff fees. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
Most importantly for John, | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
it means he'll finally get his £10,000 hearing aid | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
and makes sure he won't lose his house to the bank. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
No wonder Lawrence is keen to share the good news. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
Just collected £42,000 off of Airbus. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:39 | |
HE LAUGHS | 0:42:39 | 0:42:42 | |
Airbus told us, the situation came about | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
as a result of an administrative issue | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
and that the matter has now been fully settled. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:50 | |
Five months on from Marc and Tony's visit to QC Laboratory Ltd | 0:42:53 | 0:42:58 | |
and with no assets of any value, the Sheriffs have now closed the case. | 0:42:58 | 0:43:02 | |
The client, Teresa Kelly, is now trying to get some of her money back | 0:43:02 | 0:43:06 | |
through a charity, the National Fund. | 0:43:06 | 0:43:10 |