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-Meet the Sheriffs. -Let's introduce ourselves. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
-We're High Court Enforcement Officers. -We're here to execute a High Court writ. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
They're the men whose job it is to get you your money back. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
It's an arrestable offence to stop me doing my job. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
If you've been ripped off and don't know where to turn. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
-I'm not waiting any more. -I'm ordered to seize goods to clear this debt, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
which would mean clearing this place out. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:21 | |
If you've been to court but still not been paid what you're owed. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
Why don't you just tell me who you are? | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
This is an absolute crock. You need to pay this. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
The High Court Enforcement Officers charged by law | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
to recover what a court says is rightfully yours. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
-I've seized your car, sir. -You can let us through the door or we'll go through the window. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:38 | |
-Wooh, wooh, wooh, wooh, wooh! -It time to call the Sheriffs. | 0:00:38 | 0:00:41 | |
I've just collected 42 grand. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
Coming up, Michelle Fenner is owed £1,200 by an estate agent. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:51 | |
I just think that they're so arrogant. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:53 | |
It's a total lack of respect. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:57 | |
Can the Sheriffs succeed where she's failed? | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
It's about a High Court writ that's been issued, some outstanding money. We're here to collect it today. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:05 | |
Steve McLaughlin paid over £3,000 for a BMW, but got a banger. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:10 | |
I turned the ignition key off, took it out and the engine was still running. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:14 | |
Can the Sheriffs convince the dealer this is the debt that needs paying? | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
And Lawrence and Kev Xerox in on some seizable assets. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:23 | |
I'm ordered here today to seize goods to clear this debt, | 0:01:23 | 0:01:26 | |
which would mean clearing this place out. That shook him. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:29 | |
That shook him rigid. | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
The East End of London, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
the beating heart of the capital's business activity, | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
a melting pot of London life. | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
And today, where Sheriffs Marc Newton and Tony Smith | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
are headed, on their way to help out a lady let down by a letting agent. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:54 | |
Michelle Fenner is a local councillor | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
in the seaside town of Broadstairs in Kent. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:13 | |
It's a beautiful part of the world, where she brought up son Philippe | 0:02:13 | 0:02:17 | |
after moving from her native France. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
But after recently graduating from university, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
Philippe decided to leave Kent and lay down roots in London. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
He planned to do bar work to subsidise his real ambition | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
of becoming an illustrator. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
He's always been passionate about drawing. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
The minute he was able to hold a pen when he was little, he started drawing. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:43 | |
And it was so good that he was able to do a degree in illustration. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:49 | |
And there he was, he was going to use that in his professional life. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:56 | |
You know, we want to do everything we can to help him achieve that. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:01 | |
Philippe got himself a job | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
and agreed to flatshare with some friends. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
They soon found an apartment in East London | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
being rented through a local lettings agency, Madison Brook. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
Happy with it, Michelle agreed to stump up the £1,200 deposit and holding fee for Philippe. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:20 | |
All he had to do now was wait to move in, | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
which Madison Brook told him would be in September. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:27 | |
We had the address of Madison Brook, we had their details | 0:03:28 | 0:03:33 | |
in terms of bank account etc. It was all, apparently, above board. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:39 | |
There was no reason for me to be, to be suspicious of any wrongdoing. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:47 | |
But September came and went, and so did the moving in date. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:52 | |
Despite chasing Madison Brook for news, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
neither he nor Michelle could get any date at all for moving in. | 0:03:55 | 0:03:59 | |
Desperately needing accommodation so he could begin his job, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
Philippe and Michelle decided they had no choice | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
but to pull out of the flat. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
Expecting the swift return of her deposit, | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
Michelle was philosophical about the problem. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:14 | |
I was concerned, I was disappointed, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
but at the same time thinking, well, these sort of things do happen. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
While Philippe went looking for a new flat, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
Michelle waited to get her £1,200 back. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
And waited. And waited. But nothing came. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:32 | |
Despite being assured by Madison Brook the money would be returned, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
not a penny came her way. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
They cashed the money. It was a bank transfer, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
so the money was on their account immediately, | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
so they could start using it however they wanted. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:50 | |
They chose to keep it, wrongly. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
I just think that they're so arrogant. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:57 | |
Eh, they just really are treating people badly. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:02 | |
Eh, it's a total lack of respect. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:06 | |
Eight months after pulling out of the flat, and still without her money, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
Michelle took Madison Brook to court, | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
but the letting agent failed to attend. | 0:05:13 | 0:05:16 | |
The judge ruled in Michelle's favour | 0:05:16 | 0:05:18 | |
and ordered Madison Brook to pay her back, in full. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:22 | |
But to date, Michelle has still not received a penny. | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
No, we do care. It's a lot of money for us. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:30 | |
If Michelle's to get any of her money back, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
her only hope now rests with Sheriffs Marc and Tony. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
But before they can get any money from them, | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
Marc and Tony have got to find the Madison Brook office. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
And in the dense lanes of London's Docklands, that's not proving easy. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:52 | |
-Number 20. -Number 20, unit eight, isn't it? | 0:05:52 | 0:05:54 | |
-Unit B. -Unit B. Just love numbers that go four, 15, two! | 0:05:54 | 0:06:02 | |
It might be 15 the unit though. That's two. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
-What we after? -20. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
Unable to find it in the van, Marc decides on a more traditional method. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:14 | |
Look, there's a map there. We can look on the map. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
-Where are we? -There, I think. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:21 | |
We're up there. It's back there. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
That says 14, doesn't it? That's unit 20. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
They're not even on there, are they?! | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
We'll go and ask them what number. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:33 | |
I don't think there's anyone in there. | 0:06:33 | 0:06:35 | |
Oh, yeah, there might be. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
Can local knowledge help where everything else has failed? | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
We're after, em, Madison Brook Lettings? | 0:06:41 | 0:06:46 | |
-Just over there. -Out of here? No worries. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
Thanks very much. Lovely, cheers. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
-Oh yeah, there. -That B there. -Yeah, B there. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
Marc and Tony navigate all the way around the corner, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
where they find the office. They head in. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
-This is Madison Brook Docklands letting agents, yeah? -Yeah. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
It's about a High Court writ that's been issued, some outstanding money. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
-Right, OK. -We're here to collect it today. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
-Bear with me two seconds. If you'd like to take a seat. -Yeah, no worries. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
So far so good. They're in and they've been offered a seat. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
Soon after, a manager arrives. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
It's to do with a... oh, I'll just give you a copy. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:32 | |
A writ that's been issued against... | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
-Can I take a copy of this? -Yeah, that's yours anyway. That's yours anyway. Yeah, no problem. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
The manager heads off to study the writ. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:47 | |
On a typical day for the Sheriffs, it's rare they get a nice sit-down, | 0:07:47 | 0:07:51 | |
so Marc and Tony take the opportunity to browse the glossies. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:56 | |
Aston Martin. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
But before they've had chance to get a shopping list together, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
the manager's back with some news. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
-What's that? -That's done for you, OK? | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
-Oh, you've paid it into our... via that? -That's right. | 0:08:16 | 0:08:20 | |
To Marc's surprise, and with no arguments at all, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
the manager's transferred the money in full there and then | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
into the Sheriffs' account, which means Michelle | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
finally getting the cash she's owed. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
Yeah. Yeah, that's spot on, all right. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:35 | |
-And that's yours. -Thank you very much. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:38 | |
All right, lovely, no problem. Thanks very much. Cheers. Thank you. Bye-bye. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:41 | |
It's been as easy a job as it ever gets for the Sheriffs | 0:08:41 | 0:08:44 | |
and Marc is understandably delighted. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
That was an amazing result, to be honest, cos we was literally in there no more than ten minutes. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:52 | |
The guy said the name, he had a vague memory of the name, went off, | 0:08:52 | 0:08:56 | |
I was expecting him to come back and question it or deny all knowledge. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:00 | |
And he literally came back with the thing to say that he'd transferred the money | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
and it's all done. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
Em, to be honest, I'm amazed! | 0:09:06 | 0:09:08 | |
I was a bit in shock when he come back and went, "It's paid"! | 0:09:08 | 0:09:11 | |
But the real winner, has been Michelle Fenner, | 0:09:11 | 0:09:14 | |
who's finally received the £1,652, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
including all additional legal costs, that was rightfully hers. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:22 | |
It was good that they were able to go in, get the money, | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
thank you very much and goodbye. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
It's gone straight into the bank, and it was needed there, no doubt. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:32 | |
Really, the lesson is to persist. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
If you know you're right and you've just got to keep at it | 0:09:35 | 0:09:38 | |
until you get what you want and what is really rightfully owed to you. | 0:09:38 | 0:09:44 | |
Being a Sheriff is neither nine to five, nor office-based. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
Sheriffs cover the length and breadth of England and Wales | 0:09:58 | 0:10:02 | |
enforcing over 70,000 High Court writs every year. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
And setting out to enforce one of those, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
are Sheriffs Lawrence Grix and Kev McNally. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
We're on our way towards Enfield now. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
We've got another employment tribunal case with two defendants. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:18 | |
One is Photocopiers Direct Ltd and the other is Costas Ioannou who | 0:10:18 | 0:10:23 | |
I would imagine is a director of the company. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
The former employee is owed over £20,000 for unfair dismissal. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:32 | |
But despite having been told by a court of law that the money's | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
rightfully theirs, they've still not received a penny of it. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
Aiming to change that, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:46 | |
Lawrence and Kev arrive at director Costas Ioannou's house. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
They park up and head in. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
No-one's answering the door and neighbours soon inform | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
the sheriffs that that's unlikely to change in a hurry. | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
They've been away a little while, have they? | 0:11:01 | 0:11:03 | |
She's on holiday. When are they back, do you know? | 0:11:03 | 0:11:05 | |
They've lived there a while, haven't they? | 0:11:05 | 0:11:07 | |
How long have they been gone for? | 0:11:07 | 0:11:10 | |
-About six weeks. -Yeah. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
Duration of the school holidays the gent's saying. | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
Six weeks is too long even for Lawrence and Kev to wait for a debtor. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
This situation is usually the end of the story for the sheriffs, | 0:11:20 | 0:11:23 | |
but while Lawrence fills out the paperwork, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
a sharp-eyed Kev spots a clue inside Mr Ioannou's car, which might mean this enforcement isn't over yet. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:33 | |
Do you see that paperwork there? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:37 | |
Photo-imaging. So that all correlates with the erm... | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Have you got any addresses on it? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
-Oh, look, there we go. Unit 31. -Cumberland Business Park. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:47 | |
With a possible second address traced, the sheriffs prepare to head off. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:52 | |
But not before they've seized Mr Ioannou's car, on paper at least. | 0:11:52 | 0:11:56 | |
Time to move on, | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
IF Lawrence can find a letterbox for the seizure paperwork... | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
-Round the front. Lawrence. -Huh? | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
..while avoiding the attentions of his growing legion of fans. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:08 | |
Ah! So you've seen us before. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
Don't tell him that! | 0:12:14 | 0:12:15 | |
Clearly, Lawrence's television fame is spreading. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:20 | |
Is that your first time being recognised, Lawrence? | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
-No, it's not my first time. -I think it is, isn't it? | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
I can see by that smile on your face it is. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
Bye! | 0:12:28 | 0:12:29 | |
They're waving to us now. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:31 | |
-That's your fanbase, mate. -The whole street's out! | 0:12:32 | 0:12:36 | |
Putting their fans behind them, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
the sheriffs head out to check out the new business address. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
The boss may be on holiday but Lawrence is determined | 0:12:44 | 0:12:47 | |
that won't stop him getting his client the money they're owed. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
Just because he's out of the country, doesn't mean | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
that we can't collect from his company or seize assets from his company. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
If need be, he'll have to do a bank transfer from wherever | 0:12:56 | 0:12:59 | |
he is in the world on holiday. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:01 | |
So we should be able to clear it up | 0:13:01 | 0:13:02 | |
if there are sufficient assets there. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
And 15 minutes later, they've found their way | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
to Photocopiers Direct Ltd's head office. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:10 | |
31, there. Photocopiers Direct Ltd. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
-Lights are on. -But is there anybody home? | 0:13:15 | 0:13:17 | |
Heading inside, there is someone home, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
although it's not director Costas Ioannou, but a receptionist. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:26 | |
Ah! Hello, there. I'm a High Court enforcement officer | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
and I'm here today to execute a writ against Photocopiers Direct Ltd. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:33 | |
I'm here today to seize goods to the value of £20,741.01 | 0:13:33 | 0:13:39 | |
-or collect payment. Is it Mr Ioannou the director? -He's on holiday. Yeah. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:43 | |
He's on holiday. I know, I've just been to his house | 0:13:43 | 0:13:45 | |
and his neighbours told me he's on holiday. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:49 | |
Are you able to get him on the phone at all? | 0:13:49 | 0:13:52 | |
With Lawrence loose in the office, the receptionist wastes no time | 0:13:52 | 0:13:56 | |
in getting company director Costas Ioannou on the phone. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
Hello there, sir. I'm here today to execute a High Court writ. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
We are here today to collect £20,741.01 | 0:14:05 | 0:14:11 | |
and we're here...we're here to seize goods to that value. | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
While Kev gets listing company assets, the director tells Lawrence | 0:14:16 | 0:14:20 | |
that he's trying to appeal the court's decision. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:23 | |
But that doesn't bother Lawrence or his High Court writ. | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
It doesn't matter that there's an appeal going on, sir. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:30 | |
On the 42nd day you should have paid what was outstanding | 0:14:30 | 0:14:34 | |
at that point in time and you didn't | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
so it's been transferred to the High Court for Enforcement Purposes. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
It doesn't matter, sir. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:41 | |
It doesn't matter. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:43 | |
Well then your goods are going to be seized then, sir. | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
The director is convinced the sheriffs should stop their enforcement, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
but Lawrence is having none of it. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
The bottom line is that I have a live High Court writ in my possession today. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:59 | |
The only way you can prevent further action is to pay in full. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
We're not here tomorrow, we're here today. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
We don't work on promises of payment tomorrow. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
We work on what you manage to pay us today. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:10 | |
Yep, I'll wait here, sir, and assist my colleague with his seizure. OK? | 0:15:10 | 0:15:15 | |
The director says he's going to talk to his solicitor. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
Lawrence, meanwhile, goes off to inspect the company's assets. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:22 | |
Whether he'll get his hands on them, or any money, remains to be seen. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:27 | |
We'll find out, later. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
Being a sheriff can take you to the strangest of places... | 0:15:35 | 0:15:38 | |
We found it and we're here. Poolman Swimming Pools, look. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
..in the pursuit of the oddest of things. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
Oh, I see. He sold them already. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
There are 3,000 sheep we were going to seize and remove. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
The sheriffs have seized bikes, cars, boats and even planes in their time. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:53 | |
We'll be seizing an aeroplane this afternoon. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
There it goes, down the runway. Follow that plane. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:57 | |
To get people back the money that a court of law says is rightfully theirs. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
It'll need to be dealt with. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
High Court enforcement officers have collected | 0:16:04 | 0:16:06 | |
almost £200 million of unpaid court judgements in the last three years. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:11 | |
The total due today is £11,757.96. How would you like to pay? | 0:16:11 | 0:16:16 | |
Sheriffs have more powers than bailiffs to recover money to pay off debts. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:20 | |
This place, trust me, could be emptied in about an hour. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
These days, a High Court writ costs £60. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:26 | |
If the sheriffs are successful, that's it. | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
If they're unsuccessful, the only cost is a £60 admin fee. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
-Cheers, thanks. -Thank you. -Bye-bye. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
On the other side of the country, Sheriff Darryl Oreton | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
is on a mission to get back someone else £1,700 they're rightfully owed. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:53 | |
We're off to Kenilworth today. We're off to see erm...the defendant's a Michael Mooney. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:59 | |
Mr Mooney is a letting agent who rented out a flat for a landlady, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:03 | |
Sally England, but kept some of her rental money for himself. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:07 | |
Sally took him to court, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
but when he didn't contest the case, was awarded £1,340. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:14 | |
But despite Sally's victory, he still hasn't paid up. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Sally's is one of four County Court Judgments Mr Mooney has against him | 0:17:20 | 0:17:25 | |
when Darryl arrives at his house aiming to get her her money back. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
Almost immediately, he spots a valuable asset on the front drive. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
Just going to seize the vehicle. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
It's probably on finance but I will make a note of it. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
If the car belongs to the defendant and he refuses to pay up, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:44 | |
Darryl can seize it to sell to cancel out the debt. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
His van's parked across the drive to make sure | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
the car's going nowhere as he heads for the front door. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
Good morning, sir. | 0:17:58 | 0:17:59 | |
Here for a Michael Mooney. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:00 | |
Got a High Court writ to execute against yourself | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
on behalf of Sally England. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
Some outstanding rent arrears. | 0:18:07 | 0:18:09 | |
It hasn't been sorted, sir. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
She's taken you through the High Court now. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
Right. Did you have a County Court judgement | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
back in September last year? | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
Right. That's a separate issue. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
We've got a live writ. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
I'm here now to collect £1,722.13 or to seize goods to the value of. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:37 | |
Well, your vehicle will be seized. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:44 | |
Can you get me the documentation for that, please? | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
I'll just have that, sir. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:53 | |
He's locked the door. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:04 | |
It's not surprising the man is careful | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
to close the door behind him, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
as Sheriffs have the power to enter residential properties | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
by open or unlocked doors or windows. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
Darryl would dearly love to get inside, as once there, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
he can list assets to seize, and not even the police can remove him. | 0:19:18 | 0:19:22 | |
A few minutes later, having spoken to his lawyer, Mr Mooney returns, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:28 | |
and this time he's taking precautions. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
He insists the matter has now been sorted out. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:34 | |
It hasn't. I wouldn't be here if it had been settled. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:39 | |
What thing have you got? | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
It needs to be paid. I'm not going to be leaving here until it's paid. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:45 | |
I'm going to be charging £217.80 per hour on here until it's paid. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:50 | |
Call the police. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:53 | |
Mr Mooney does go inside to call the police. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:57 | |
That done, he comes back to the door with a request for Darryl. | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
Who, me? No. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:05 | |
I'll wait for the police, then. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
I need my paperwork back as well, sir. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
The prospect of the police arriving doesn't worry Darryl one bit. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
Always good to have them here. | 0:20:19 | 0:20:20 | |
Especially with awkward customers like this. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:24 | |
He's not being awkward, but just tricky, putting his lock on. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Tricky or not, Mr Mooney wants Darryl gone. | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
Why? | 0:20:36 | 0:20:37 | |
I'm waiting for the vehicle to be seized. | 0:20:39 | 0:20:41 | |
You haven't shown me any proof yet. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
Van's not going anywhere. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:48 | |
Moments later, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:51 | |
and an increasingly frustrated Mr Mooney's back at the door. | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
No. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:57 | |
Because I'm here to execute this High Court writ. This needs to be paid. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
You do, sir. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:07 | |
You do, you do, you do. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:09 | |
It is against Michael Mooney. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
I'll wait till the police come, sir, and then we'll get it resolved. | 0:21:15 | 0:21:18 | |
Do you want to give me my original copy back, please. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
Do you want to give me my original copy back? | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
No. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
That's OK, she can park it by the side of my van. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:30 | |
OK. | 0:21:32 | 0:21:33 | |
Not until you pay this, sir. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
What's that, sorry? | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
You do. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:41 | |
You do. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:42 | |
You just had the paperwork off me. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:47 | |
How can I be bullying and intimidating you, sir? | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
I'll wait here till the police turn up. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:59 | |
With, Michael Mooney proving a difficult customer, | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
and locked out of the house, Darryl's getting nowhere. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:08 | |
If he's going to get any money back for Sally England, | 0:22:08 | 0:22:11 | |
he needs to up the pressure. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:13 | |
We'll see how he gets on, later. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:15 | |
Back in North London, Sheriffs Lawrence and Kev | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
are at the offices of Photocopiers Direct, | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
trying to recover over £20,000 in unpaid wages | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
owed to a former employee. | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
Lawrence is still trying to convince absent owner | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
Costas Ioannou to pay up. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:41 | |
In the meantime, he and Kev have started listing company assets | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
in case they need to seize them to pay off the debt, | 0:22:45 | 0:22:48 | |
and being an office equipment business, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:50 | |
there's no shortage of them. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
These parts... | 0:22:52 | 0:22:53 | |
They're all toners. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:55 | |
So you literally just do a head count of how many toners you've got. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:57 | |
25 C double 52 toner cartridge towers. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
I'm listing like a demon. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
That's the kiddie. You're learning. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:07 | |
Moments later, Mr Ioannou rings back saying he's talked | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
to his solicitor, who's assured him he shouldn't have to pay. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:17 | |
But Lawrence has some news for him that might change his mind. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:20 | |
I've seized your car, sir. No, I haven't removed at the moment. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:25 | |
I'm ordered here today to seize and, if necessary, remove goods | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
to clear this debt, which would mean clearing this place out. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
And then if there's any outstanding money after that's been sold, | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
I would then be re-attending your home address. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:38 | |
I've already been there and seized your Mercedes this morning. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
If there's any outstanding balance, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:45 | |
I will be reattending with a view to removing goods from your residential | 0:23:45 | 0:23:50 | |
address if the goods from this property here don't cover the debt. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
OK, sir. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:54 | |
Lawrence thinks his threats might be getting through to Mr Ioannou. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
That shook him. | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
Did it? | 0:24:01 | 0:24:02 | |
What, going round his house? | 0:24:02 | 0:24:04 | |
Yeah, that shook him rigid. | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
But before they can list any more assets, | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
a call comes through for Lawrence. | 0:24:08 | 0:24:10 | |
But this time it's not Mr Ioannou, it's his solicitor, | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
and he's not happy at all about Lawrence's presence | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
on the premises or his threats to seize goods. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:19 | |
He says he's put in an appeal on Mr Ioannou's behalf, | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
which means Lawrence should back off. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
But it takes more than a legal qualification | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
to stop Lawrence enforcing a writ. | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
That doesn't matter to our writ. We have a live writ. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
It doesn't matter. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:37 | |
That's nothing to do with us. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:41 | |
I've been handed a live writ and I enforce that writ. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
We're going round and round in circles. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
You do what you've got to do and I'll do what I've got to do. OK? | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
Bye-bye. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:50 | |
After an hour on the premises, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:53 | |
Lawrence still doesn't have a payment. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:56 | |
Unless he can convince them they need to pay, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
he could end up with nothing for his client. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
Time to show them he means business. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
Bring on the removal truck. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:05 | |
All right, Soph. | 0:25:07 | 0:25:08 | |
I'm going to need at least one 7.5 tonne truck, | 0:25:10 | 0:25:15 | |
preferably with a tail lift, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
as obviously there's loads of photocopiers. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
And nothing in the office is safe from Lawrence's clutches. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
Are you able to back up the systems? | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
Do you know what you need to do to back up the systems, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
because we're going to start turning it off shortly. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:30 | |
Everything. | 0:25:30 | 0:25:31 | |
Everything. It's not yours personally, is it? | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
It's the company computer. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:34 | |
Everything will be going. The chairs, the stereo, everything. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
Lawrence would prefer some kind of payment | 0:25:38 | 0:25:40 | |
to going to the trouble of removing goods. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:43 | |
He decides to make one last call to the director to see if he can | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
get some payment out of him today, even if it's not the full amount. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
Can you do £10,000, which is just under half? | 0:25:50 | 0:25:53 | |
And after taking a moment to think about it... | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
You need to do it by immediate payment, as well, | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
so I can check that it's in our bank account. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
Bingo. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:05 | |
The director can't do £10,000, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
but agrees to pay £7,000, with the rest to follow. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
It might be less than the full writ, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
but with an absent company director and only a large quantity | 0:26:15 | 0:26:18 | |
of toner cartridges to seize, it's a valuable result for the Sheriffs. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
All right, Soph, could you check the account for me, please? | 0:26:22 | 0:26:25 | |
I believe the money should be there now. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
All right, lovely. Cheers. Bye-bye. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
And with that it's game, set and match for the Sheriffs. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
A partial payment with the rest to come at a later date. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
Bye-bye. | 0:26:40 | 0:26:41 | |
Thanks a lot, bye. | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
So that's job done as far as we're concerned. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
There's no more we could do today. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
We've probably, in fact, collected more than goods in there were worth, | 0:26:46 | 0:26:50 | |
so I think we've done quite well to get the part payment. | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
An empty house and an unpromising start couldn't stop the Sheriffs | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
getting a result, and they're not leaving things there. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
If he doesn't get a stay and he doesn't make any kind of payment | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
or puts in a proposal that's accepted by the claimant, | 0:27:05 | 0:27:08 | |
then we'll be back. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
And since Lawrence's and Kev's visit, | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
Photocopiers Direct have paid up the money owed in full. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
Director Costas Ioannou told us | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
the only reason he hadn't paid the debt previously was that he | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
was still going through the appeals process for the Employment Tribunal. | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
He said he had been abroad when his final appeal had been rejected | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
and so had been late in paying up. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
He said it was the first time he had gone through the Tribunal process, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
and that the debt had now been paid in full, | 0:27:39 | 0:27:41 | |
and that the matter had been dealt with and closed. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
Back in the Midlands, Sheriff Darryl Oreton is still locked outside | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
the home of letting agent Michael Mooney. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
He's trying to get him to pay up rental money | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
he owes to a former client, Sally England. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
With the police on their way, | 0:28:05 | 0:28:06 | |
he's desperate to ratchet up the pressure on Mr Mooney to pay up. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
If he could get inside the house, he could seize assets. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
But with the front door locked and chained, can he find another way in? | 0:28:14 | 0:28:18 | |
Sheriffs can legally climb perimeter walls or fences | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
at residential properties. | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
But today, a sure-footed Darryl just needs to lift the latch. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
And he's in. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:54 | |
He's looking for an unlocked back door or window | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
to get him into the house. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:00 | |
But he's out of luck. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:07 | |
That's locked as well. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:13 | |
After all that hard work. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:14 | |
Mr Mooney doesn't want Darryl poking round his back yard again, | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
and locks the gate behind him. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
GATE CLOSES | 0:29:22 | 0:29:24 | |
He obviously doesn't know | 0:29:24 | 0:29:25 | |
Darryl can legally climb the fence any time he wants. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
But Darryl hasn't completely given up on getting inside. | 0:29:31 | 0:29:34 | |
He'll let the police in, I would have thought | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
and he may not lock the door behind him once they're in. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
I can gain peaceful entry then. | 0:29:42 | 0:29:45 | |
That's what I'm keeping my fingers crossed for. | 0:29:46 | 0:29:48 | |
And 35 minutes after ringing the police... | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
Oh, here they are. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:54 | |
Got a High Court writ. | 0:29:55 | 0:29:56 | |
After £1,722 from him. | 0:29:58 | 0:30:01 | |
He's refusing entry, saying he doesn't owe the money. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
I said, "Well, I'm not going to go until it's resolved, | 0:30:04 | 0:30:06 | |
"and you do owe the money." | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
He just says, "No, I don't, she owes me money, I'm calling the police." | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
OK. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:12 | |
Hence you're out here. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:14 | |
Not wanting to get in trouble with the office, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
Darryl wants his writ back. | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
This is the High Court writ. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:21 | |
He's actually took a photocopy of it and given me the copy back | 0:30:21 | 0:30:25 | |
and kept the original. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:26 | |
Which is very cheeky of him. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:28 | |
Here to seize goods or collect payment in full. | 0:30:28 | 0:30:31 | |
If he doesn't want to let you in, what's your next course of action? | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
I would probably leave him a letter, give him five days to pay in full. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
He said the police are coming, so I thought I'd better wait for you. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:41 | |
Yeah. No, you've done the right thing. No problem at all. | 0:30:41 | 0:30:44 | |
-You've got nothing to hide, have you? -No, no. | 0:30:44 | 0:30:46 | |
Just doing your job, at the end of the day. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:47 | |
So, whether you want a word. Like I say... | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
Would you like the original back? | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
Yeah, if I could, please, yeah. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:52 | |
Mr Mooney allows the police in where he wouldn't let Darryl. | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
And unfortunately for Darryl... | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
Damn. He's locked it. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:03 | |
After five minutes inside, | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
the police come back out, having discussed matters with Mr Mooney. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
Can you do the letter? | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
He'll accept the letter. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:18 | |
In that five days he's going to contact his solicitor | 0:31:18 | 0:31:20 | |
and find out what his options are. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:21 | |
Right. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
With the car on a lease and unable to get in the house, Darryl | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
has little option but to do as he's told and leave Mr Mooney the letter. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:32 | |
Given him five days. | 0:31:32 | 0:31:34 | |
If he doesn't pay, he knows we're going to be coming back. | 0:31:34 | 0:31:37 | |
And indeed, some days after Darryl's visit, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:39 | |
Michael Mooney sent a cheque to cover the debt. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
Unfortunately, it bounced. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:44 | |
Since then, he's agreed with the Sheriffs to settle the debt | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
in instalments over the next six months. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:50 | |
Mr Mooney told us he continues to dispute | 0:31:52 | 0:31:54 | |
that he owes Sally England any money, | 0:31:54 | 0:31:57 | |
but says because of his delay in responding to the court, | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
it's now too late for him to have the judgement set aside. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:03 | |
He says he knew nothing of the court judgment until the Sheriffs' visit | 0:32:04 | 0:32:08 | |
and feels he has done nothing wrong. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
He said he deliberately post-dated his cheque to allow for funds | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
to clear into his account, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:15 | |
and it only bounced because it was banked too early. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:18 | |
This morning, Sheriffs Marc and Tony are on the road again, and today, | 0:32:29 | 0:32:33 | |
the only way is Essex. | 0:32:33 | 0:32:35 | |
They're on the trail of a second hand car dealer called Adrian Lyons, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:44 | |
the boss of Auto Car Exchange in Westcliff-on-Sea, | 0:32:44 | 0:32:48 | |
on behalf of very dissatisfied customer. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:51 | |
The man they're trying to help is IT consultant | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
Steve McLaughlin from Kent. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:00 | |
Steve travels extensively for work, making a safe and reliable vehicle | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
an absolute necessity. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:07 | |
I do a lot of miles. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:09 | |
I needed a vehicle that, basically, would allow me to get around | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
to my clients. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:14 | |
I do 25,000 miles a year. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
Having decided to purchase a new car, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:18 | |
Steve spotted a BMW estate for sale online | 0:33:18 | 0:33:22 | |
through an Essex garage called Auto Car Exchange, | 0:33:22 | 0:33:26 | |
at which point his troubles began. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
Steve wasted no time visiting the garage | 0:33:34 | 0:33:36 | |
to look at the car and liked what he saw. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:38 | |
I took the vehicle out, the vehicle drove fine, | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
I had no reason to question anything otherwise. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:44 | |
Convinced he'd found reliable transport for years ahead, | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
Steve struck a deal with garage owner Adrian Lyons for £3,100. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
But just two weeks later, while driving his daughter home, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
something terrible happened. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
All of a sudden, I'm driving down the road | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
and the engine revs go through the roof, | 0:34:03 | 0:34:05 | |
so I pulled it over to the side of the road, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:07 | |
it was still revving very high, I turned the ignition key off, | 0:34:07 | 0:34:12 | |
took it out and the engine was still running, | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
so I got my daughter and myself to get out of the vehicle, | 0:34:14 | 0:34:16 | |
and then about three to four seconds after that, | 0:34:16 | 0:34:18 | |
the engine actually stopped. | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
It was quite scary at the time, | 0:34:20 | 0:34:22 | |
because I've never experienced that before. | 0:34:22 | 0:34:24 | |
The episode had destroyed Steve's engine | 0:34:24 | 0:34:26 | |
and the car was now out of action. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
At that point, it was like, what am I going to do now? | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
I have no vehicle, and I need a vehicle in order to get around. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:37 | |
I know that it's quite serious. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:38 | |
Unable to let down his clients, | 0:34:39 | 0:34:41 | |
he was forced to make an expensive alternative arrangement, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:45 | |
buying another vehicle on finance. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:47 | |
Steve then got hold of Adrian Lyons | 0:34:49 | 0:34:51 | |
to say the car he'd sold him had lasted just two weeks. | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
But Mr Lyons wasn't that interested, | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
and suggested it was Steve's job to find out what had gone wrong. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:01 | |
I was a little bit disappointed being asked to investigate | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
what was wrong with the actual vehicle. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
I suppose from the point of view I'd just bought the vehicle, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:11 | |
it was my responsibility. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
Steve took the car to a BMW mechanic, | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
who proceeded to give him some very bad news. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
The engine needed a complete rebuild, | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
potentially costing thousands of pounds. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:25 | |
All I was trying to do was see if we could come to some arrangement | 0:35:25 | 0:35:28 | |
with the garage, because the fact is I'd only had it two weeks. | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
As the vehicle hadn't come with a warranty, | 0:35:34 | 0:35:36 | |
Steve assumed he had little recourse with Auto Car Exchange. | 0:35:36 | 0:35:39 | |
Then one of his clients referred him to a part of the | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
Sale and Supply of Goods Act, relating specifically to cars. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:47 | |
He discovered because the car had failed | 0:35:48 | 0:35:51 | |
within six months of purchase, | 0:35:51 | 0:35:52 | |
it was the garage's responsibility to sort it out. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:56 | |
If they didn't, he could demand his money back. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
Steve sent the car back to the garage, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:01 | |
but Mr Lyons still refused to pay for the repairs. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:04 | |
Steve felt he had no option but to take legal action. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
This is not the way to do business with people, | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
and I just think there are a lot of people | 0:36:12 | 0:36:15 | |
that feel they can get away with things like that, | 0:36:15 | 0:36:17 | |
and I wasn't prepared to allow that to happen. | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
The case was contested in court, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
and the judge awarded Steve £2,815, almost the full price of the BMW. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:27 | |
But then Mr Lyons still failed to pay. | 0:36:30 | 0:36:33 | |
All I got was a lot of aggravation. I would just like my money back. | 0:36:33 | 0:36:37 | |
It's now up to the Sheriffs to ask for Steve's refund in person. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:42 | |
It's there, on the corner, up there. | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
Finding the garage has proved easy. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
Marc and Tony head straight inside. | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
-Hi. -Hi. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:53 | |
I'm after Mr Adrian Lyons. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
Mr Lyons. | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
Mr Lyons isn't there, but the receptionist gets him on the phone. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:01 | |
After a short wait, Mr Lyons arrives. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
Come on, then, what's this about? | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
You Adrian, are you? | 0:37:15 | 0:37:16 | |
I am, yeah. | 0:37:16 | 0:37:17 | |
It's about a judgment that was issued | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
and then they've taken it to the High Court. | 0:37:20 | 0:37:22 | |
A Stephen McLaughlin is the claimant. | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
Right, I'll show you the paperwork that I've just applied for, | 0:37:25 | 0:37:27 | |
to the court, which I've just been down to get the paperwork | 0:37:29 | 0:37:31 | |
from my accountant. | 0:37:31 | 0:37:33 | |
Mr Lyons says he's written to the court offering to pay his debt | 0:37:33 | 0:37:36 | |
to Steve in instalments, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:38 | |
and so doesn't believe he needs to pay the Sheriffs today. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:41 | |
But what Marc knows, and Mr Lyons doesn't, | 0:37:43 | 0:37:45 | |
is that Steve already rejected this offer. | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
Whatever action Mr Lyons has taken, therefore, | 0:37:49 | 0:37:52 | |
won't stop Marc enforcing this writ. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
This is still a live writ. | 0:37:55 | 0:37:56 | |
They didn't tell me that. They didn't tell me that at all at the time. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
They told me if I sent off the necessary paperwork, | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
application form with £40, they would look into it. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:05 | |
He's wrote to the court saying I'm not accepting instalments, | 0:38:05 | 0:38:08 | |
which he doesn't have to. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
If a judgement's been made, he doesn't have to accept instalments. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
He can demand the full amount. | 0:38:13 | 0:38:15 | |
It's news Mr Lyons doesn't like at all. | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
Jumped up a bit. | 0:38:21 | 0:38:22 | |
Yeah. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:23 | |
What's that, you two getting paid? | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
There's a fee on there for us coming out here, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
which is the Sheriff's fees. | 0:38:27 | 0:38:30 | |
And then the judgments cost are obviously on there, | 0:38:30 | 0:38:33 | |
and then VAT, and then you get charged interest. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
I can't see why that's legal. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:39 | |
If he's refused it, why haven't they told me he's refused it? | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
I don't know, I can't answer for the court, I don't know. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:45 | |
Mr Lyons rings the court to check on where he stands. | 0:38:47 | 0:38:51 | |
But Marc already knows that he's wasting his time. | 0:38:51 | 0:38:54 | |
I've applied for making a monthly payment. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
I've just been down to my accountant to pick up the payment necessary | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
and I've got the demand for £3,731 from the High Court. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:07 | |
They're here to seize goods and I'm saying to them | 0:39:07 | 0:39:09 | |
I've got an application to go through | 0:39:09 | 0:39:11 | |
and they're saying they're not interested. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
Right, OK. Thank you very much. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
Well, what she's saying is because there's an application | 0:39:16 | 0:39:20 | |
going through to Maidstone CC, that I should show that to you | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
and he's got an application going through to oppose it, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:27 | |
but she said they didn't know that. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
She said I should show that to you and there'll be a time period wait | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
-until he decides what he's going to do. -No. | 0:39:32 | 0:39:34 | |
That's what she's told me. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
It doesn't put a stay on the writ, unfortunately. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:40 | |
The writ's still live and it needs to be paid while we're here. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:44 | |
It's live until the court puts a stay on it. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
You can see what I'm saying... | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
Yeah, I can... | 0:39:50 | 0:39:51 | |
I've got it here in black and white from a court. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:54 | |
It's the second time in 40-odd years I've been to court, | 0:39:54 | 0:39:57 | |
there it is, asking me what to do and giving me a date, period, 14th June. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:02 | |
Yeah, But it doesn't put a stay on the High Court writ, unfortunately. | 0:40:02 | 0:40:06 | |
There's no getting round it. | 0:40:06 | 0:40:08 | |
Mr Lyons will have to find a way to pay, | 0:40:08 | 0:40:10 | |
or the Sheriffs could seize some of his cars | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
to auction to pay off the debt. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:14 | |
So what's the situation? | 0:40:16 | 0:40:18 | |
I need to collect the amount that's outstanding. | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
You won't take a cheque, will you? | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
No. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:24 | |
Let me make a phone call. | 0:40:24 | 0:40:26 | |
That's all right. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:27 | |
While Mr Lyons checks his finances, Marc takes stock. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:34 | |
I think we've got a reasonable chance here. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:37 | |
To be honest, I can see where he's coming from, | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
but unfortunately he hasn't filled it in. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
There's a system and he's not followed the system. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
No. There's stuff here, there's lots of vehicles here. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:49 | |
I think he's going to have to pay, to be honest, | 0:40:50 | 0:40:53 | |
otherwise we'll be taking some stuff away. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
Dave, where are you, Dave? | 0:40:55 | 0:40:56 | |
Have you got a debit card with £3,800 on? | 0:40:58 | 0:41:03 | |
Do you want to shoot up to the showroom, pay a judgment to me | 0:41:06 | 0:41:09 | |
and I'll sort it out to you with something else? | 0:41:09 | 0:41:11 | |
All right, I appreciate that. Thanks, mate. Bye. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:15 | |
It's a bull's-eye for Marc and Tony. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
Mr Lyons is going to find a way to pay. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:22 | |
Soon after, a friend arrives | 0:41:22 | 0:41:23 | |
to cover the payment on their debit card. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
A paid in full means job done for Marc and Tony. | 0:41:28 | 0:41:30 | |
That wasn't too bad, actually, and we wasn't even in there that long. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
He's paid in full. That's a good result for us, to be honest. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
I'm quite happy with that. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:42 | |
That went a lot smoother than I thought it was going to go. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:45 | |
He was actually quite a nice guy, he was all right with us, | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
he was quite civil. | 0:41:48 | 0:41:50 | |
It's the kind of jobs you quite like doing, to be honest. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
So it's all's well that ends well for the Sheriffs, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
and for Steve, who finally got back the money he was owed for so long. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
On June 13th I received a letter advising that they'd actually | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
been to the premises, and that they're pleased to confirm, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
pending clearance, they've received the payment in full. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
Because I borrowed some money on finance to actually be able | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
to purchase the vehicle that I needed straight away, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:18 | |
I've actually got the ability to pay that finance off now, so it means | 0:42:18 | 0:42:22 | |
I haven't got to find that £200 a month ongoing monthly commitment. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:26 | |
You know, I'm really pleased. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
It's the agony of going through the whole process was worth | 0:42:28 | 0:42:31 | |
it in the end, and justice has prevailed. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:33 |