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-Meet the Sheriffs... -Let's go and introduce ourselves. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
-We're High Court Enforcement Officers. -We're here today | 0:00:04 | 0:00:07 | |
-to execute a High Court Writ. -They're the men whose job it is | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
to get YOU your money back. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
It's an arrestable offence to stop me doing my job. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
If you've been ripped off and don't know where to turn... | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
-I'm not waiting any more. -I'm ordered to seize | 0:00:15 | 0:00:17 | |
goods to clear this debt, which would mean clearing this place out. | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
If you've been to court, but still not been paid what you're owed... | 0:00:20 | 0:00:24 | |
-Why don't you just tell me who you are? -This is an absolute crock - | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
-you need to pay this! -..the High Court Enforcement Officers | 0:00:28 | 0:00:30 | |
are charged by law to recover what a court says is rightfully yours. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:35 | |
-I've seized your car, sir. -You can have a letter through the door | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
-or we'll go through the window. -Whoa, whoa, whoa! | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
It's time to call...the Sheriffs. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
I've collected 42 grand... | 0:00:42 | 0:00:43 | |
Coming up... | 0:00:47 | 0:00:49 | |
Lawrence and Kev head to Savile Row, | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
to give a world-famous tailor a dressing-down. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:54 | |
I carry with me the power of arrest and I'll call the police down | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
to have you arrested... | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
Liz Greaves' ex-boyfriend promised to pay her | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
for the £2,000 sofa she bought. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
But instead, she's been left seriously out of pocket. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
Felt quite helpless at the time, because I just thought, | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
"Am I ever going to get my money back?" | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
Can the Sheriffs get her what she's owed? | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
Look - we'll look to come back with locksmiths, that's all. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:20 | |
There's no point damaging the front door. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
And Emma Crook was unfairly dismissed by the pub she worked at. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:26 | |
Basically, I was sacked for making a comment on Facebook. | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
Can the Sheriffs get her the £4,600 she's owed? | 0:01:30 | 0:01:34 | |
Just to explain - enforcement officer, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
we've got a High Court Writ to attend here tonight... | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
London - | 0:01:41 | 0:01:42 | |
centre of the country's legal, financial and political business. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:46 | |
And the heart of one of the most exclusive shopping districts | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
in the world. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:53 | |
It's not often a place the Sheriffs visit... | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
Where am I going? | 0:01:59 | 0:02:00 | |
..but today, it's exactly where Sheriffs Lawrence Grix | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
and Kev McNally are headed. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
They're off to visit a shop | 0:02:07 | 0:02:08 | |
that hasn't paid a debt to one of its suppliers. | 0:02:08 | 0:02:11 | |
But it's not just any old shop. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:13 | |
I'm going to a call in Savile Row, | 0:02:13 | 0:02:16 | |
to a company called Nick Tentis Ltd. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
Don't know what the debt is about, | 0:02:19 | 0:02:21 | |
but they do appear to be a Savile Row tailor. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
Erm, quite a nice shop, with a couple of little bay trees outside. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:27 | |
We've got a debt of £7,376.78. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:31 | |
It's an Italian company, so I'm guessing, | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
by the fact that it's got a "tex" in the name, that they've provided | 0:02:38 | 0:02:42 | |
some kind of suit material or something like that... | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
that Nick Tentis has then gone on to make suits out of, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:49 | |
but not paid the supplier. | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
Savile Row, in Mayfair, is world famous for its tailors | 0:02:52 | 0:02:55 | |
and bespoke menswear. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:57 | |
It's outfitted everyone, from Winston Churchill and Admiral Nelson | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
to Michael Jackson and the Royal Family. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
It might not know it yet, but today, The Row is about to host | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
two unexpected new gentlemen customers. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:12 | |
I think that might be it on the right down there, | 0:03:12 | 0:03:14 | |
with the little trees outside. | 0:03:14 | 0:03:16 | |
-Nick Tentis, there it is. -Can I go in there, or that one? | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
Yeah, you're all right in there - maximum stay, four hours. | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
They found the shop and a parking space. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
They head in, to try and find tailor Nick Tentis. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:31 | |
-My name's Mr Grix, I'm an enforcement officer. -Right, OK. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
I've got a High Court Writ to execute against Nick Tentis Ltd. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:40 | |
I'm here today to seize goods to the value of £7,376.78, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
or collect payment in full. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
The man gets boss Nick Tentis on the phone. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
We've got a High Court Writ. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
OK. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:00 | |
While the staff try and sort out what to do, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
Lawrence and Kev take the opportunity to browse the garments. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
But they're not on a shopping trip. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
There you go... | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
See if you can get some information | 0:04:10 | 0:04:11 | |
off the labels or something, off them. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:13 | |
If the debt's not paid, these expensive suits | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
could be seized, removed and sold to pay off the debt. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
At this point, we're asked to leave. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:24 | |
However, boss Nick Tentis arrived soon after | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
to speak to Lawrence, who quickly gets him up to speed. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
We've got a High Court Writ to the tune of £7,376.78. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:36 | |
The man claims he's paid the debt, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
and can't understand why the Sheriffs are visiting. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
Lawrence asks for proof, but the man says | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
he won't be able to get any until tomorrow. | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
Lawrence makes some calls to see if the office can establish | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
whether the client's received any money. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
Hello, it's Lawrence - who's our client? Have we got solicitors? | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
Well, can you get them to pull their finger out? | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
Because we're here - you know what solicitors are like. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
All right! Cheers. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
Whatever the tailor is claiming, Lawrence needs to continue his work. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
We still need a list anyway, Kev, | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
because then we can bill the client if it's already been paid. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
He starts listing assets, and putting his own estimates | 0:05:15 | 0:05:18 | |
on what they might fetch at auction - | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
values to which the owner takes exception. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
It's my experience - not your experience of selling suits | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
at mark-up...at ticket price... | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
It's my experience of selling items at auction | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
that puts the value on these and dictates how much I take. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
The tailor says he won't allow Lawrence to remove any assets. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
You can't stop me. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
The tailor asks him how he expects to remove goods | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
without his permission. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:47 | |
I shall just pull up the van out here, and load it up. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
The man says he'll stop Lawrence doing this. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
You won't, because you'll be arrested for obstruction. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
I carry with me the power of arrest, | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
and I'll call the police down to have you arrested. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
The man says, if Lawrence can give him some time, he'll get him | 0:06:02 | 0:06:06 | |
the evidence he needs that this debt's already been paid. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
We won't be coming back. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
The only way we'd come back is to remove. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
If we left here today, it would either be a case of... | 0:06:15 | 0:06:19 | |
If it turns out you hadn't paid it, you'd need to pay the balance. | 0:06:19 | 0:06:24 | |
I can live with £3k. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:26 | |
Go and see what you can get and we'll deal with it once | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
we know what we're dealing with. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
While the man goes off to see how much money he can rustle up, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
Lawrence continues listing his assets. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
A few minutes later, he returns with £1,500 cash. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:42 | |
But it's still someway short of the £7,376 | 0:06:42 | 0:06:46 | |
that Lawrence has come to collect today. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
It's not really cutting the mustard, is it, on a debt of this size. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
The tailor says later today, he hopes to get proof that he's | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
paid the debt and if he can't, he'll just pay the outstanding balance. | 0:06:56 | 0:07:00 | |
You'll need to sign a walking possession agreement, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
which basically signs over the goods that I've seized to the court. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:07 | |
His point made, Lawrence relents. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:11 | |
He's got £1,500 cash for now, and a walking possession order | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
on clothing inside the store to protect the remainder of the debt. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:20 | |
-That's a walking possession. Bye-bye. -Ta-ra. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
I tend to think he has paid it, to be honest. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
Someone in his position in Savile Row, | 0:07:26 | 0:07:28 | |
they're not going to not pay a debt. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
And if he hadn't paid it, | 0:07:31 | 0:07:32 | |
I'm pretty sure he'd have found a way to pay us in full now. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:36 | |
Apparently, his bookkeeper's going to be at home this | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
evening at about 6.00pm. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
He's got all our contact details and he's going to ask him | 0:07:41 | 0:07:43 | |
to send it over to us. He's shown willing. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:46 | |
He's paid £1,500 and we'll see what happens on Tuesday. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:49 | |
And with that, the Sheriffs head off. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
If Mr Tentis can't prove he's paid the debt, | 0:07:52 | 0:07:55 | |
they'll be back to remove the garments they've seized. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
While the vast majority of the Sheriffs' cases | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
involve some sort of business, occasionally, | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
they have to enforce on writs relating to purely personal matters. | 0:08:13 | 0:08:18 | |
I believe it's apartments. That's the only information I've got. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:23 | |
On their way to one such case today | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
are Sheriffs Pete Spencer and Dave Crabtree. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
They're in Bolton on their way to try and find a particular address. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
This is a private individual versus a private individual. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:39 | |
Seemingly, the debt relates to purchases of some sofas | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
or something. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
The woman they're on their way to help is Liz Greaves from Bolton. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Two years ago, she split up with her then boyfriend. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
It's always a difficult time in anyone's life, | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
but it's left her with a most unexpected of problems, one that | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
means she's out of pocket and forced to go to the Sheriffs for help. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:08 | |
Before Liz and her ex-partner Michael Baglin broke up, | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
Liz bought new sofas intended for their new home. | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
It was a big investment, costing over £2,000, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
and one Liz hoped would be worth it in the long run. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
Liz paid for the sofas in full, and when they broke up, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
Mike agreed to keep the sofas in his flat and pay her | 0:09:33 | 0:09:36 | |
£55 a month for the next four years, until they were paid off. | 0:09:36 | 0:09:40 | |
At first, he did so. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
But after nine months, despite having the sofas in his possession, | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
the money dried up. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
It was a constant battle every month, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
you know, for a week or chasing him. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
"Have you paid? Have you paid? Are you going to pay?" | 0:09:53 | 0:09:55 | |
And I eventually got some, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
but not anything like what I was supposed to get. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
I felt quite hopeless at the time cos I just thought, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:03 | |
"Am I ever going to get my money back?" | 0:10:03 | 0:10:05 | |
I was just really fed up of all the arguing | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
and the chasing every month. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
Getting nowhere with Mike, Liz decided to take her case to court. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:17 | |
My only option, really, was a small claims court, initially. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
I thought, "It's worth a try. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:21 | |
"I might not get anything but at least it's something." | 0:10:21 | 0:10:24 | |
Liz brought a County Court Action against Mike for the money | 0:10:25 | 0:10:29 | |
that was outstanding on the sofas. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
But when he got notice of the case, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:33 | |
Mike contacted Liz to sort the issue out. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
He then said he couldn't pay that but he'd sell the sofas | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
and give me £750, which I agreed to, because I just wanted an end to it. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:46 | |
Then I said to him, "Well, go back to the court | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
"and say you'll pay £750 and I'll agree to that." | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
But he didn't do. So he then had a month to make a £100 payment, | 0:10:51 | 0:10:56 | |
which would then be the start of the instalments to cover the £2,000. | 0:10:56 | 0:11:01 | |
He never paid that either. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:02 | |
By now, Liz had had enough. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
She didn't have the sofas or her money, and she needed it. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
It was £2,000. It is a lot of money, and money I could do with. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:15 | |
Liz went back to court. | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
It's unusual that the courts settle matters between ex-partners, | 0:11:18 | 0:11:21 | |
but when Mike didn't contest the case, the court judged | 0:11:21 | 0:11:25 | |
in favour of Liz and ordered him to pay her the £1,983 she was owed. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:31 | |
But he's still not paid up. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
Liz's only hope of getting her money back now rests with the Sheriffs. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:39 | |
Get back onto the main road and see if that's Manchester Road. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
But it's not proving easy. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:45 | |
We need to go back up to the top of the road, carry on down there | 0:11:45 | 0:11:48 | |
and it's just on the left-hand side, further down. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
Other than the address, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
the only distinguishing features they're aware of | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
are that they're looking for a block of apartments and an electric gate. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
Are there electric gates on these? That's the one. Oh, yeah. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
Bingo. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:05 | |
Finally. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:06 | |
As well as the address, they've got the gate code, | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
which means they can gain access to the block's car park. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:15 | |
But it's not just for the convenience of parking their van. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:18 | |
It means if there is a vehicle on the debtor's parking space, | 0:12:18 | 0:12:21 | |
they can locate and seize it, on paper at least, | 0:12:21 | 0:12:25 | |
to use as leverage to get the debt owed to Liz Greaves paid. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
See if this works. Nah. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
Might have changed it, Dave. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:33 | |
But Dave's having problems getting the code to work. | 0:12:33 | 0:12:37 | |
Must have changed it. | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
Green light comes on and it says "accept". | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Will Pete fare any better? | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
It's the skills that pay the bills. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
Number 22. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:52 | |
Probably round to the left, I think. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
They head in and moments later, Pete finds what he's after. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
-Anything there? -22, yeah? | 0:12:58 | 0:13:02 | |
Yeah, car. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:03 | |
So we've got a vehicle in the bay we're looking for, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
so we'll just make a note of that vehicle registration first. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:11 | |
That's a nice car, isn't it? | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
Head round to the intercom system, see if we can get anyone's attention. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
With the vehicle seized, they go to find the apartment itself. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:24 | |
Being a shared block, | 0:13:24 | 0:13:25 | |
getting access to the front door might not be that easy. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:29 | |
No-one's answering the intercom and they can't get access to | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
the flat on the top floor they're after. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
There's a vehicle in the bay, so you'd think they're potentially in. | 0:13:40 | 0:13:45 | |
Dark hair, average build. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:49 | |
You'd think it'd be second floor, as well. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:53 | |
Luckily, Pete manages to raise the block caretaker. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
We're looking for Mr Michael Baglin. | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
Right. Has he gone, moved out? | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
The caretaker says he's happy to pass on Pete's notice of seizure. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:11 | |
But Pete also wants him to pass on the fact that his powers | 0:14:11 | 0:14:15 | |
as a Sheriff go a lot further than just delivering notices of seizure. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
We'll look to come back with locksmiths. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:21 | |
Are you generally at number 2? | 0:14:21 | 0:14:23 | |
-Yeah. -There's no point in damaging the front door with a locksmith | 0:14:23 | 0:14:26 | |
and changing locks, it'll just create problems. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:28 | |
Ultimately, that's what we'll look to do | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
if we don't get any return off this, you see. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
Don't do this one. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:35 | |
You're number 2, aren't you? You're number 2. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:39 | |
-And you're generally here in the day or...? -I'm never far away. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
Right, OK. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
Pete hands the caretaker the seizure paperwork and | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
asks him to deliver it. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
Right, OK. If you can slide that under his door or something. | 0:14:50 | 0:14:54 | |
I'll wait to see if he gets back in touch. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
If he doesn't, we'll just chase it a bit further and see. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
-OK. Hopefully, he'll reply. Thanks. -Thanks for your time. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
With no-one in the flat and unable to gain entry, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
there's nothing more Pete and Dave can do today. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
While it's far from the ideal outcome, | 0:15:12 | 0:15:15 | |
it's also certainly not a failure. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:17 | |
Pete has a strong sense | 0:15:17 | 0:15:19 | |
Mr Baglin will get the message he asked the caretaker to pass on. | 0:15:19 | 0:15:23 | |
They've seized one vehicle on paper, established where Mr Baglin lives | 0:15:23 | 0:15:27 | |
and made sure he'll get their notice of seizure. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
And indeed, Pete was proved right. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
Sometimes the Sheriffs' paperwork alone is enough to make | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
people think twice about ignoring court debts. | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
Some days after Pete and Dave's visit, Mr Baglin contacted | 0:15:41 | 0:15:44 | |
the Sheriffs and arranged payment for Liz, in instalments. | 0:15:44 | 0:15:49 | |
For her, it's a huge relief to finally get her money. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:52 | |
I was really, really relieved when this letter arrived because it | 0:15:54 | 0:15:57 | |
was actually... I never thought I would see this day. | 0:15:57 | 0:16:00 | |
So now to have actual proof that they have received the money, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
and to receive the cheque as well, | 0:16:03 | 0:16:05 | |
was the end to a very long, drawn-out process. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:07 | |
You all right? Guv'nor about? | 0:16:14 | 0:16:16 | |
We're Sheriffs from the High Court. | 0:16:16 | 0:16:18 | |
The Sheriffs enforce over 70,000 High Court Writs every year. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
We're here today to seize goods to the value of £42,000. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:26 | |
It's a job that takes them all over England and Wales, | 0:16:27 | 0:16:33 | |
from country villages and seaside towns | 0:16:33 | 0:16:37 | |
to the heart of the major towns and cities. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:41 | |
But with such a vast territory to cover, one challenge | 0:16:41 | 0:16:44 | |
the Sheriffs constantly face is finding the addresses they're after. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
-Where am I going? -I don't know. It hasn't found a satellite yet. | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
I just love numbers that go - 4, 15, 2. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:56 | |
-That's 2. -What we after? -20. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Armed with little more than a writ and a sat nav, | 0:16:59 | 0:17:02 | |
this can be difficult at the best of times. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
Could be anywhere, couldn't it? | 0:17:05 | 0:17:06 | |
We still can't find it. Is it here somewhere? | 0:17:06 | 0:17:08 | |
Are you the guys from earlier? You've not found it? | 0:17:08 | 0:17:10 | |
What a debacle. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
But no matter how convoluted their route... | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
-Where are we? -There, I think. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:16 | |
..or tucked away the address they're looking for... | 0:17:16 | 0:17:19 | |
Country lane. Named house. Brilliant. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:21 | |
..they always find it in the end. | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
-Got it. -That's it. I'm telling you. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
Oh, yeah. There. Look. We found it and we're here. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:30 | |
These days a High Court Writ costs £60. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
If the Sheriffs are successful, there's nothing more to pay. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:37 | |
If they're unsuccessful, the only cost is a £60 admin fee. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:41 | |
You take some finding! | 0:17:42 | 0:17:44 | |
On the road again, Lawrence and Kev are back in London, but this | 0:17:54 | 0:17:58 | |
time dealing with an assignment more in their neck of the woods. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:01 | |
They're on their way to a south London car garage, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:05 | |
called in to collect a debt owed by one business to another. | 0:18:05 | 0:18:09 | |
We're on our way to Camberwell at the moment. | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
To a company called SP Fleet Ltd for a debt of £5,880.80. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:18 | |
Where's it gone? Where is it? | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
Arriving at the street listed, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
finding the right premises is the first challenge. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
SP MOT. | 0:18:31 | 0:18:32 | |
That's it. | 0:18:32 | 0:18:34 | |
Lawrence spots a familiar name but with a twist. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:38 | |
They're looking for SP Fleet Ltd. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
They've found SP MOT Ltd. | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
It's got to be that MOT place, I would think. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
While Lawrence is sure they're at the right place, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
the difference in the name on the writ could prove | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
a major stumbling block in getting this debt paid. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
It's time to find out. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
-Hello there. SP Fleet Ltd? -Yeah. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
My names Mr Grix, I'm an enforcement officer. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
I'm here today to execute a High Court Writ. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:04 | |
I'm here today to seize goods to the value of £5,880.80. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:09 | |
The lady on reception says they're aware of the debt | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
and have offered to pay it off monthly. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
Lawrence explains this doesn't change what they've come to do. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:20 | |
The claimant's entitled to transfer it to | 0:19:20 | 0:19:22 | |
the High Court for enforcement purposes at any time. | 0:19:22 | 0:19:25 | |
It doesn't matter what appeals are going on. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
If they want to execute it in the meantime, they can do. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:31 | |
SP Fleet's boss isn't there but the woman gets him on the phone. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
You're able to get him on the phone, though, aren't you? | 0:19:35 | 0:19:39 | |
She puts him on to Lawrence, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:40 | |
who's more than happy to explain the situation. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
We're been sent here today to execute this High Court Writ. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:47 | |
We're here to seize goods to the value of £5,880.80. | 0:19:47 | 0:19:51 | |
So we're not actually here for money today. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
We're actually ordered here by the court to seize goods | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
to clear the debt. | 0:19:58 | 0:19:59 | |
Goods that can be removed and sold at auction. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
However, if you want to pay it in full, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
that would obviously prevent the need to remove your goods and sell them. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
The company boss doesn't seem keen on either option | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
and immediately throws a spanner in the works. | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
So you're saying everything here is SP MOT? | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
He says all the goods in the garage belong to SP MOT Ltd | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
not SP Fleet Ltd, and so can't be seized by the Sheriffs | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
to pay the debt. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:30 | |
Is there any paperwork here showing that goods belong to SP MOT Ltd? | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
The main thing I'm looking at, at the moment, | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
is your recovery truck sitting outside. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
That's leased, is it? Is the lease paperwork here? | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
In situations like these, the responsibility to prove who owns what | 0:20:45 | 0:20:49 | |
lies with the defendant, not the Sheriffs. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:53 | |
Unless the proof is forthcoming, | 0:20:53 | 0:20:55 | |
this enforcement will be going ahead. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
What I'll have to do, I'll have to seize everything | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
and you'll have to, on behalf of SP MOT, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:03 | |
submit a third party claim to those goods. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:06 | |
The boss asks to speak to the receptionist again. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
Yeah, sure. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:10 | |
He wants to speak to you. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
Has Lawrence done enough to convince him it's best to pay up? | 0:21:12 | 0:21:16 | |
-How much is it? -£5,880.80. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
The boss wants to talk to Lawrence again | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
and offers to pay £5,000. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
I can live with that. Fair play to you, that's showing willing. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
When can you pay the other 880? | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
I can live with that. How you going to pay that? | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
Lady's got a debit card. OK, we'll do that, sir. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
With the man offering to pay the bulk of the debt, | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
Lawrence is more than happy. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
It's now simply a case of PIN number in, | 0:21:45 | 0:21:47 | |
and home and dry for the Sheriffs. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:50 | |
Call authorisation centre. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:52 | |
Or maybe not. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:54 | |
The machine tells Lawrence he must call the card company. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
Right, so he needs to speak to the bank and I need to keep the card. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
So close to getting the payment they came for. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
They've told me to retain the card | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
Mr Powell's got to get in touch with his bank. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
Lawrence must now find another means of getting the money | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
from SP Fleet Ltd. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
You can do it by bank transfer. £5,000. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:22 | |
That's it. Excellent. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
Luckily, this time, the payment, made by bank transfer, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:30 | |
does go through. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:31 | |
36741. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
Lawrence double checks with the office | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
that they've received the £5,000, and they're on their way. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
Thanks. Bye-bye. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
It's a nice way to end the day. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
We've got £5,000. Only 880 left. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:49 | |
I did see the bank statement to show there was only £5,000 available, | 0:22:51 | 0:22:56 | |
so they paid what they could, effectively. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
And with that, they head off, with the money in the bank and the | 0:23:01 | 0:23:05 | |
business that's owed it soon to get what's rightfully theirs, in full. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
Back on the road and heading for another car dealership, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
are Sheriffs Lawrence and Kev. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
But this time, | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
they're on their way to a classic car showroom in central London. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
They've got a Bugatti Veyron, they've got just about every top | 0:23:32 | 0:23:35 | |
make of car you'd expect to find at a really high quality car dealer. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:40 | |
The man they're trying to help is himself a car dealer. | 0:23:40 | 0:23:44 | |
He paid a £16,000 deposit to CSFLPM Ltd. | 0:23:44 | 0:23:50 | |
Formerly called Clive Sutton Premier Marques Ltd. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
It was for a Porsche 911. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
But he never got the car or his deposit returned. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
The case went to court. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
CSFLPM Ltd did not contest it | 0:24:03 | 0:24:07 | |
and a judge awarded the car dealer £16,000. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
A later appeal for set aside was also judged to be without merit. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:16 | |
Since then, the car dealer has yet to receive any money. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
Given the quality of stock we're expecting to find on the forecourt, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:28 | |
we should have a fairly good chance of clearing this up. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:32 | |
Intending to get the car dealer his money back, | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
five minutes later, | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
Lawrence and Kev arrive at the imposing garage showroom. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
-SAT NAV: -'You have reached your destination.' | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
That's it. Clive Sutton. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
And immediately, Kev's getting excited. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
Mate, you see that Mustang they've got at the front? | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
That's the old... | 0:24:49 | 0:24:50 | |
-The old 350 Shelby GT. -The one from that film. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
-Eleanor. -Yeah, that's it. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
Time to park up and head in. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
Let's go and introduce ourselves. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
It looks like Lawrence and Kev are a bit early. | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
With the garage deserted, they take the opportunity to have | 0:25:09 | 0:25:13 | |
a closer look at a classic Mustang sports car. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
Lawrence is confident it would easily pay the debt all on its own. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:21 | |
What are they worth, then? | 0:25:23 | 0:25:25 | |
That, that's on the internet at 174. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:28 | |
-174 grand?! -Yeah. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:30 | |
It's gorgeous, though, innit? | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
Let's go sit in the van for a minute, then, eh? | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
There's nothing to do but sit tight and hope the garage opens up. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:42 | |
It should opening any time now. | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
9 o'clock it opens, apparently. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
Lawrence is right. Bang on time, a salesman appears. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
As Kev moves the van onto the garage forecourt, Lawrence explains | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
the purpose of their visit to the staff member inside. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
My name's Mr Grix, I'm an enforcement officer. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
So, would you like to let me in and I'll speak to you about it? | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
The salesman invites Lawrence in and grudgingly opens up for Kev, too, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
but isn't prepared to let us follow him. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
If you've seen us on the telly, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
you know what the score is. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:19 | |
This needs paying in full or we'll be taking stock. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:25 | |
We continue filming from outside as the salesman promptly disappears... | 0:26:25 | 0:26:29 | |
Where's he gone? | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
..leaving two excited sheriffs to prowl his showroom. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
These vehicles may be easy on the eye | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
but, more importantly, they're assets that could, if necessary, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
be seized and sold to pay the debt owed to the car dealer. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:47 | |
I just want a car with a button in it that just says "launch". | 0:26:47 | 0:26:52 | |
Absolutely awesome car. | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
-Is it a Shelby Mustang what...? -500 GT. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
Absolutely beautiful. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
You're going to get in it in a minute. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
Petrol-heads Lawrence and Kev are in their element. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
Still waiting for the salesman to return, | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
Lawrence decides it's time for a test drive. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
Jeez. There's just so much space, ain't there? | 0:27:11 | 0:27:15 | |
-A ton, isn't there? -Yeah. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
Absolutely awesome. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:19 | |
How much leg room have you got? | 0:27:21 | 0:27:22 | |
While sitting in the car of his dreams is certainly | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
a pleasant way to spend the morning, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:27 | |
Lawrence's priority is getting the car dealer his money back. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:31 | |
He calls the Clive Sutton office number | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
in search of the vanished salesman. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
Hello there. My name's Mr Grix. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
I'm at your shop in St John's Wood. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
I'm an enforcement officer. | 0:27:42 | 0:27:44 | |
I saw the sales guy and he disappeared about 15 minutes ago and hasn't come back. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
Thanks, bye. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:50 | |
That was a woman. There must be an office upstairs. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
This call soon has the desired effect, as another man appears | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
and introduces himself as the garage's financial controller. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:03 | |
He invites the sheriffs to follow him upstairs to his office. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
Mr Grix. We didn't even realise this was here. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:09 | |
We realised the other guy had gone somewhere. We didn't realise where he'd gone. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
After having to wait for over 40 minutes, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
Lawrence wants to get things moving. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
I don't know if you know how a High Court Writ works. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
We're ordered out to seize goods to clear the debt, basically. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
The only way to prevent that is to pay in full. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:27 | |
The cars downstairs are the main things now. | 0:28:28 | 0:28:32 | |
The man claims all the luxury cars are being sold | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
on behalf of customers, and aren't owned by the garage. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
He has documents he says prove this and wants to show Lawrence. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
This not a sale and return document. This is a buyer's document. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:47 | |
So far, I'm not happy with that at all, what I've seen there. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
There's absolutely no evidence whatsoever | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
that that car is on a sale-or-return basis. | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
The water just gets muddy, doesn't it? | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
But just when it looks like Lawrence has the upper hand, | 0:28:57 | 0:28:59 | |
the man uses his laptop to show him something else - | 0:28:59 | 0:29:03 | |
proof on the Companies House website that the business named on his writ - | 0:29:03 | 0:29:08 | |
CSFLPM Ltd, formerly called Clive Sutton Premier Marques Ltd - | 0:29:08 | 0:29:13 | |
is in liquidation. | 0:29:13 | 0:29:15 | |
It's a body blow for chances of getting the money owed. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:20 | |
With the company liquidated, | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
Lawrence now knows there's nothing at the garage they can seize, | 0:29:22 | 0:29:26 | |
and no chance of payment. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:28 | |
We'll be on our way. OK. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:31 | |
Cheers. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:34 | |
For Lawrence, it's doubly frustrating. | 0:29:36 | 0:29:39 | |
They can't get the car dealer his money back | 0:29:39 | 0:29:41 | |
and have wasted their morning. | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
We were going all through the paperwork for the vehicles, | 0:29:43 | 0:29:46 | |
and then he shows us that they are actually liquidated, so... | 0:29:46 | 0:29:50 | |
You know, we could have been in and out, really. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
There's now a new company running this garage | 0:29:55 | 0:29:57 | |
which isn't responsible for the liquidated company's debts. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
There's nothing to do on this at all. That's it. Gone. | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
Clive Sutton told us the company was unable to contest the original judgment | 0:30:06 | 0:30:10 | |
because the director with knowledge of it was abroad. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
They latterly made an appeal to have the judgment set aside, | 0:30:14 | 0:30:18 | |
but because of the financial collapse of CSFLPM Ltd, | 0:30:18 | 0:30:23 | |
they were unable to proceed with the application. | 0:30:23 | 0:30:26 | |
They said the collapse of CSFLPM Ltd was due to the activities of a since convicted fraudster, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:34 | |
which had led to a number of trade creditors incurring losses. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
Sheriffs can go to any address in England and Wales | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
to enforce a writ, and at any time they want. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
They frequently work unsocial hours... | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
..often surprising debtors with an early-morning house call. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
But today, it's an evening callout for sheriffs Pete Spencer | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
and Dave Crabtree. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:09 | |
They're winding their way through Preston in Lancashire | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
on their way...to the pub. | 0:31:12 | 0:31:15 | |
But they're not planning on a relaxing pint. | 0:31:15 | 0:31:19 | |
We're doing an evening visit for enforcement. | 0:31:19 | 0:31:22 | |
It's a public house, the Golden Cross public case. | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
Seemingly, this is an employment tribunal case | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
where the GC (LANCS) Ltd, which manages the pub, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:32 | |
the Golden Cross pub which we're going to, | 0:31:32 | 0:31:35 | |
has obviously had an issue with a member of staff | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
and ended up with an employment tribunal deemed against them. | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
The person Pete and Dave are on their way to help | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
is Emma Crook from Preston. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
When she took a job at a local pub, | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
she hoped she'd get experience in catering. | 0:31:53 | 0:31:56 | |
Instead, it's left her out of pocket | 0:31:57 | 0:31:59 | |
and forced to go to the sheriffs for help. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
Today, Emma is taking time out in her local pub, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
but two years ago, looking to develop her catering career, | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
she took a job at another pub, the Golden Cross in Preston, | 0:32:13 | 0:32:18 | |
run by Sharon Duxbury. | 0:32:18 | 0:32:19 | |
She hoped to eventually run the pub kitchen as a separate business. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:25 | |
However, with the kitchen space being used as storage, | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
this plan didn't come to fruition. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
Instead, she became a full-time member of staff, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:34 | |
working the bar and living in accommodation above the pub. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
Everything was fine. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:40 | |
We got along well, but Sharon wasn't working at the pub at the time. | 0:32:40 | 0:32:45 | |
She has another job. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
It was only later on, when she took over as full-time manager, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
that the problems began. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:52 | |
Emma worked hard and put in long hours. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:54 | |
It was a job that was far from glamorous. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
My duties at the pub - line cleans, cleaning the pub, | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
all the horrendous stuff that comes with the toilets in there. | 0:33:02 | 0:33:05 | |
Bank cheques. Got the floats. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
Started serving the customers. | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
I was happy for a while, yes, definitely. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
It was only in the latter stages that I wasn't really that happy. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
But after a year with the company, | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
Emma was unceremoniously sacked after the pub management took | 0:33:22 | 0:33:25 | |
exception to some posts she made on Facebook. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
I put a comment on Facebook saying that my head had turned to mush. | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
There were comments that followed off Sharon saying that | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
I was slagging off the customers, which was untrue. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:40 | |
The morning after, I hadn't read comments, | 0:33:42 | 0:33:46 | |
but I got a text message off her asking me to come in for a meeting. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
As I went in for a meeting that day, she sacked me on gross misconduct. | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
Yeah, basically, I was sacked for making a comment on Facebook. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:59 | |
I was numb, really, because I didn't think she would be able to do it, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
but there was not much I could say. It was her decision. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
And Emma had lost more than just her job. | 0:34:06 | 0:34:09 | |
I'd lost where I was living, I had to move back into my parents'. | 0:34:09 | 0:34:13 | |
It was hard. | 0:34:13 | 0:34:15 | |
Feeling wronged, Emma looked to take legal action. | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
She spoke to a solicitor. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:24 | |
Yeah, they thought I definitely had a case. | 0:34:24 | 0:34:27 | |
I showed her all the text messages and the messages on Facebook, | 0:34:27 | 0:34:32 | |
-and she definitely thought I had a case. -They went to court. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:36 | |
The pub didn't attend the case and, instead, wrote a letter in their defence. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:41 | |
The judge saw the letter that she sent in and, basically, | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
the letter had nothing to do with the case. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:46 | |
He dismissed letter and awarded in my favour. | 0:34:46 | 0:34:49 | |
Emma was awarded £4,700 but despite the court order, | 0:34:51 | 0:34:55 | |
this hasn't been paid. | 0:34:55 | 0:34:57 | |
The circumstances are just... | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
We were old friends at one point and now there is nothing there. | 0:35:00 | 0:35:04 | |
It's been traumatic. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:06 | |
I still owe my mum and dad money, because I borrowed off them | 0:35:06 | 0:35:11 | |
while I was out of work. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:13 | |
It's still not good. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
Feeling she had no other option if she was to get the money a court said she was rightfully owed, | 0:35:17 | 0:35:22 | |
Emma decided to call in the sheriffs. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
If Emma is to get any of her money back, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
she's relying on sheriff Pete's ability to convince the Golden Cross pub | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
their best interest is in paying this off here and now. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:39 | |
But as Pete knows only too well, | 0:35:40 | 0:35:42 | |
getting money out of a pub is never easy. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:45 | |
Yeah, I mean, we visit many pubs and, generally, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
the brewery will own the fixtures and fittings, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:52 | |
or will have a debenture over the fixtures and fittings, | 0:35:52 | 0:35:57 | |
so, potentially, the assets... | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
the assets of the defendant might be nothing, | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
or it's possibly stock and cash that's in the till, maybe. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:08 | |
We got the director's name, a Miss Sharon Duxbury. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:12 | |
She manages the pub and is also a director, seemingly, of the limited company, | 0:36:12 | 0:36:18 | |
so hopefully, she'll be there tonight when we attend. | 0:36:18 | 0:36:22 | |
Moments later, they locate what they are looking for. | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
Number six... Yep, Golden Cross. Pull up outside. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:29 | |
They park up and head in. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:33 | |
And before they've got anywhere near the bar, | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
-they get lucky and run into pub manager Sharon Duxbury. -Yeah? | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
Hiya. Is there somewhere we can have a chat, away from your customers? | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
We are enforcement officers. We've got a High Court Writ to attend here tonight. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:51 | |
At this point, we're asked to leave the pub. | 0:36:51 | 0:36:54 | |
We film from outside, as Pete explains why he's there. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:57 | |
It's in connection with a Miss Crook. | 0:37:01 | 0:37:03 | |
Yeah, it's gone through Croydon County Court, | 0:37:03 | 0:37:06 | |
then moved up to High Court for our enforcement | 0:37:06 | 0:37:08 | |
which is the reason for our visit tonight. | 0:37:08 | 0:37:11 | |
It's £4,845.08. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
It was £4,642 originally. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
I've come to collect the full amount tonight. | 0:37:18 | 0:37:20 | |
I'm commanded by the High Court judge to attend to seize goods | 0:37:20 | 0:37:24 | |
to the value of, with the intention to remove or collect the full amount. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:28 | |
The manager questions | 0:37:28 | 0:37:29 | |
why she hasn't been given any notice of the Sheriffs' visit. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:33 | |
We don't tell you that we're coming out | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
cos if we tell you we're coming out, people move assets. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
So we don't tell you we're coming out. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:40 | |
This is the first you'll know of it being moved up to High Court, really. | 0:37:40 | 0:37:44 | |
The pub management are co-operative | 0:37:44 | 0:37:46 | |
but don't have the full amount owed there and then. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:50 | |
Pete explains the procedure for payment. | 0:37:50 | 0:37:52 | |
That's fine. What we've got to do, we've got to seize goods on site | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
so that's what he's gone off doing at the moment. | 0:37:56 | 0:37:59 | |
I've got to seize those items. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
You then have five days, | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
so you need to get in touch with any third parties that might own them | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
or have an interest in those goods | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
to tell them they've been seized by the High court. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:10 | |
They then must write to us with proof of ownership | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
and then we take them off. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:15 | |
Keen to help the pub management out, | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
Pete outlines ways they can pay off the debt | 0:38:18 | 0:38:20 | |
without losing the contents of the pub. | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
Other option would be, I can take a part payment tonight | 0:38:23 | 0:38:26 | |
and then you can go into a monthly agreement. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:28 | |
I'm quite happy to do that, but I must take a payment tonight. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:32 | |
We've got a card machine, so Visa, debit card... | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
And it looks like success is on the cards. | 0:38:36 | 0:38:38 | |
The pub agrees to pay. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:40 | |
The only question is, how much they can raise tonight? | 0:38:40 | 0:38:45 | |
Pete comes outside to fetch the card machine. | 0:38:45 | 0:38:47 | |
She can't afford the full amount of four-eight today | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
but what she's going to do is pay us something like £1,000 | 0:38:50 | 0:38:54 | |
and then potentially go into an arrangement. | 0:38:54 | 0:38:57 | |
The value of the goods within the pub is nowhere near the value of the debt | 0:38:57 | 0:39:02 | |
plus a lot of stuff from rental, etc, | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
so the best option in this case is to take the payment, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
give her the option to start paying monthly to clear it off | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
and at least then the debt's cleared. | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
The fact the pub want to pay the debt is great news for Pete. | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
They can't pay in full, | 0:39:19 | 0:39:21 | |
so he'll have to negotiate the best deal he can for Emma. | 0:39:21 | 0:39:24 | |
Obviously, you tell me you haven't got the 485 | 0:39:24 | 0:39:28 | |
so what can you pay me tonight? | 0:39:28 | 0:39:29 | |
The woman says she'll try and pay by card. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
There'll be £905 on that, yeah? | 0:39:33 | 0:39:36 | |
Could you enter your PIN and press the green button, please? Thank you. | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
Are you paying something off this one as well? | 0:39:39 | 0:39:42 | |
Can you do a bit more, or...? | 0:39:42 | 0:39:43 | |
Wipe £1,500 off that. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
It's a score for Pete. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:47 | |
And with that, it's time, gentlemen, please, for Pete and Dave. | 0:39:48 | 0:39:53 | |
'A debt card payment of £900,' | 0:39:53 | 0:39:55 | |
£100 in cash | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
and then she's had to borrow her partner's debit card | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
to pay another £200 on that. She didn't have the full amount. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:04 | |
There weren't really goods there to seize to the value of the full amount. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
So that's a good result, yeah, as far as I can see. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:11 | |
Yeah, initial payment plus an offer to pay monthly to pay it off | 0:40:12 | 0:40:17 | |
so yeah, good result. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:18 | |
With a healthy part of the debt collected | 0:40:18 | 0:40:21 | |
and more promised as part of a payment plan, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
it's a great result for Emma. | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
She'll have £1,200 coming her way soon | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
and regular payments promised to pay off the rest. | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
I've got a text from my solicitor | 0:40:32 | 0:40:34 | |
saying she's agreed to pay £100 a week, | 0:40:34 | 0:40:36 | |
so hopefully I will be getting something soon. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
I am very pleased with that. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:40 | |
The Golden Cross manager Sharon Duxbury told us... | 0:40:41 | 0:40:44 | |
..at a time when the pub industry was struggling. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
Since Lawrence and Kev visited Savile Row | 0:41:01 | 0:41:03 | |
and collected £1,500 from outfitter Nick Tentis, | 0:41:03 | 0:41:07 | |
despite the tailor's insistence that he'd already paid the debt, | 0:41:07 | 0:41:10 | |
he was unable to find any proof to back this up. | 0:41:10 | 0:41:13 | |
Instead, he paid off another £2,800 | 0:41:15 | 0:41:18 | |
with the remainder of the £7,376 debt promised to follow. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:24 | |
And if he doesn't pay it, | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
Lawrence still has a number of expensive suits seized on paper, | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
which he can remove and sell if this money isn't forthcoming. | 0:41:31 | 0:41:35 | |
And since the Sheriffs' visit to SP Fleet Ltd in South London, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:40 | |
the garage have now paid the final £880 of the debt owed, | 0:41:40 | 0:41:45 | |
settling it once and for all. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
But since we filmed, there's been no joy for the car dealer | 0:41:50 | 0:41:53 | |
and his attempts to recover the £16,000 he paid to CSFLPM Ltd | 0:41:53 | 0:41:59 | |
as a down payment on a car. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
As the company is now in liquidation, | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
it's unlikely he'll see any of his money, | 0:42:06 | 0:42:09 | |
although he's still investigating other avenues to try | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
to recover what a court says is rightfully his. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
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