Episode 3 The Sheriffs Are Coming


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-Meet the sheriffs.

-Let's introduce ourselves.

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I'm a high court enforcement officer. We're here to execute a writ.

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They're the men whose job it is to get you your money back.

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It's an arrestable offence to stop me.

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-If you've been ripped off and don't know where to turn...

-I'm not waiting any more.

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I'm ordered to seize goods to clear this debt, which means clearing this place out.

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..if you've been to court, but still not been paid what you're owed...

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Why don't you tell me who you are? This is an absolute crock!

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..the high court enforcement officers are charged by law

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-to recover what a court says is rightfully yours.

-I've seized your car, sir.

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-Let us through the door or we'll go through the window.

-Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!

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-It's time to call the sheriffs.

-We've just collected 42 grand.

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Coming up...

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Ronnie Wright carried out £1,800 of electrical work for a builder who never paid him.

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If the work has been done and people are happy, I expect to be paid.

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The sheriffs go in search of his money.

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Hello?

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Marketing consultant Louisa Nightingale doesn't work for free.

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So, why didn't this college pay her for her work?

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You can't hire someone and you can't just not pay them!

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The sheriffs try to find out.

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Whether I kill off the business or not is irrelevant.

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I'm here to execute a writ on behalf of our claimant.

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And all doesn't go to plan

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when sheriffs Marc and Tony go off-road looking for a 4x4.

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That vehicle's going to be reported stolen.

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The latest person to need the help of the sheriffs is marketing consultant Louisa Nightingale,

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from the Docklands area of London.

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Her problem started when she left the company she was working for

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to go freelance.

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It was a big step for her to lose the safety net of a steady employer.

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When I decided to take the jump,

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I just told all my contacts that I was setting up.

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Everyone was like, "It's so brave."

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I've always wanted to do my own thing

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and try and make it on my own.

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Being self-employed, she takes it on trust

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that she'll get an honest day's pay for an honest day's work.

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That was certainly what she thought when, the day after turning freelance,

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she was approached for work by Jatinder Kaur

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of the College of Accountancy & Management Studies.

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They were looking for ways to get more students into the college.

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It was my first client. I was really excited.

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I went away and did loads of work for them.

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I thought of all these plans that we could draw up

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to help the college get more students in.

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I guess that's what freelance is. You never know when your next job is coming.

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You've got to be there to jump at the opportunities, haven't you? So I did.

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Louisa worked for the college for a month,

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putting in long hours and hard work.

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Then she submitted her first invoice to them.

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I sent it off but I didn't get a response.

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Normally, you would get a confirmation of receipt.

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So I called them up and they went, "Oh, yes, we did get it.

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"We're processing it." "OK! Great."

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So when the 14 days came and I hadn't received any money, I thought I'd chase them.

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They kept saying, "It's coming. Don't worry."

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Because I was a new client, new business,

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I didn't want to, you know, rock the apple cart, so I just thought, "I'll carry on."

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In the end, Louisa carried on for two more months,

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working for both the College of Accountancy & Management Studies

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and their sister business, Genius Tuition,

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still without getting a penny in payment.

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And then it got to the point where they started saying, "We don't have any money."

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So I just thought, "OK, this isn't good."

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I just thought, "How is this even possible?"

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You can't hire someone and you can't just not pay them!

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Erm... So that's when I started to think,

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"Right, OK, this might actually be a bit dodgy."

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At her wits' end, Louisa didn't know where to turn.

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Really, you can't make someone pay you.

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I'd done all the things - I had a contract,

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we'd signed everything, I did the invoices properly,

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I did late payment invoices, final reminders. There was nothing else I could do.

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I think they were hoping I would just forget about it.

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But I only had a handful of clients and not enough to live on, so I really needed the money.

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These are some of the invoices I sent to them.

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These are the final payment notices.

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It didn't do anything because they just ignored them.

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There's so many because I've had to issue them so many times!

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So a lot of work...

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The experience had a big impact on newly self-employed Louisa.

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After this whole experience,

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I really wasn't sure if I should carry on with the freelance work,

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because this could literally happen with every client that I had

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and I just thought, "I don't know if it's worth it."

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I felt like a bit of a mug that I had let them do that to me.

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Finally, Louisa got advice that her best option

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was to take the College of Accountancy & Management Studies

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and their sister business, Genius Tuition,

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to the small claims court.

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They didn't contest the case

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and the judge awarded in Louisa's favour.

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But still a month on, Louisa hasn't been paid.

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Her only option now lies with the sheriffs.

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I've got to have my fingers crossed I'll get at least some of it back,

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because even a few thousand, it's just so unjust.

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And all these months, I just want something to happen so that it has been worth it.

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Hoping to get Louisa her money back are Lawrence and Kev,

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fighting through traffic on their way to northwest London.

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Today, they're chasing two writs on Louisa's behalf

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from the two trading names that she worked for, both based at the college.

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We're in Hayes now,

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on our way to the next job.

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It's a bit strange. We've got two different debtors, one claimant and one address.

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One writ's for £6,200

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and the other one's for just under £3,000.

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And it's not too long before they find the address they're after.

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There it is - College of Accountancy & Management Studies.

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They park up and head in.

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The name's Mr Grix. I'm an enforcement officer. I'm here to execute a writ.

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What is it? Which company is it?

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College of Accountancy & Management Studies Ltd, and Genius Tuition.

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There's a CCJ against each company.

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We're here today to seize assets

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sufficient to clear that debt.

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The reception staff tell Lawrence

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that the college director is currently seeking a company voluntary arrangement,

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a form of insolvency.

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They think this should stop the enforcement.

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But unless the company is insolvent, it won't stop Lawrence and his writ.

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It doesn't mean anything to us at the moment.

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Just because she's got an insolvency practitioner involved two days ago

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to prepare a voluntary arrangement, that doesn't stop us enforcing today.

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It might not stop him enforcing,

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but a CVA does present Lawrence with problems.

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If a company is insolvent, they won't be able to pay him.

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His only option would be to seize goods - a laborious and expensive process.

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With that in mind, he sends Kev off to see what assets are on the site.

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Whether he seizes them or gets any payment,

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we'll find out later.

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Sheriffs can travel far and wide

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in search of the money people are owed.

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Today, Marc Newton and Tony Smith are crossing the border to help James Riley,

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who, after leaving his job at a building company,

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waited patiently for his final month's paycheck, which never arrived.

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We're off to Wales, to...

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er,

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Mid Glamorgan.

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The defendant's DTM Construction Ltd.

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James took legal action against DTM Construction.

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The company fought the case at an employment tribunal.

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But the judge agreed with James and ordered DTM to pay him the month's wages.

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He was awarded £3,500.

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But DTM Construction has still failed to pay.

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The sheriffs have been on this company's trail for a while.

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In August, Lawrence and Kev found assets, including several vehicles, at the business address,

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but no sign of its director.

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He's leaving that here.

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Yes.

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They carried out a full seizure,

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allowing the vehicles to remain on the premises,

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but now the property of the court on paper.

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They left the director a notice, explaining he had five days to prove they didn't belong to his company

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or the sheriffs would be back to remove them,

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to settle the money owed to James Riley.

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So today, Marc and Tony are going back to DTM Construction

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to finish what Lawrence and Kev started.

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And this time, there is someone around.

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Are you from DTM?

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-Who are you looking for?

-DTM Construction Ltd. We've got a high court writ.

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It's the man they've come to see,

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the elusive company director Darrell Matthews.

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Since Lawrence and Kev's visit, the sheriffs have received paperwork from him

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he claims proves none of the vehicles they seized belong to his company.

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It's a story he's sticking to.

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It has got no assets at all, DTM.

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Well, it's got some, hasn't it?

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-It hasn't got any.

-It's got a vehicle.

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But the sheriffs ran their own DVLA checks on the seized vehicles and found something different.

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There's one vehicle Lawrence previously seized

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that's still registered to the company - a Toyota Hilux.

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But it doesn't appear to be on the property any more.

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Marc demands to see this vehicle's logbook

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and calls Lawrence to discuss his next move.

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He's saying DTM's gone. There's no DTM. It has nothing.

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Right. And there's stuff up there.

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All right, I'll have a look around and say, "We're going to start looking at stuff."

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Moments later, Darrell Matthews produces the Toyota's logbook

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and immediately Tony notices something.

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The vehicle is registered in the name of a new owner,

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but the date this log was issued suggests Mr Matthews sold it after the sheriffs seized it.

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That's because he must've had stuff at the time.

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-He's changed them over. But they're not here, anyway.

-No.

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It's still active now.

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It's illegal to sell or move any vehicle seized by a high court sheriff.

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Marc wants answers from Mr Matthews.

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-Our guy came here on the 8th August and listed the vehicle.

-Yes.

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This logbook was printed on the 14th of September.

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This can't be changed. Once it's seized, it's seized. It's no longer your property.

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Mr Matthews maintains the vehicle was sold to his partner in June,

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well before the sheriffs' visit.

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But the dates on the paperwork he sent through

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don't match the official DVLA records

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of when the vehicle was transferred into the new name.

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Marc thinks he knows why.

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It was seized prior to it being changed.

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If it states it was in your name in June...

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It doesn't state it was in our name in June. It was in our name from the 14th September, 2012.

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That's when it states.

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Well, I disagree with it.

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-You can disagree, but it's there, from the DVLA.

-I disagree.

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-It's there. The date's quite clearly there, isn't it?

-OK.

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Marc isn't buying Mr Matthews' story.

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He thinks he's broken the law and sold a seized vehicle,

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which should rightly be removed

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and sold to pay off the debt owed to disgruntled former employee James Riley.

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You need to show me where the money was transferred to.

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-I'll show you.

-OK.

-I can't show you at the moment. Give me time.

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No. You've had time,

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because you've had since the 8th of August!

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With Darrell Matthews unable to prove he sold the Toyota before it was seized,

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it remains the property of the court, on paper.

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The sheriffs know if they can find the vehicle, they can tow it away

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and sell it to settle the debt.

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-None of these are on here, mate. Oh, that is.

-Huh?

-That is.

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But that's not... That's not in his name.

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-There's only that Hilux.

-Which ain't here.

-Which ain't here.

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Right.

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They still can't find the Toyota.

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None of the other vehicles are registered to DTM and so can't be seized.

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It's now time to widen this search.

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Unfortunately, wellies aren't part of a sheriff's normal attire.

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Bit muddy here!

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There's a gym in here!

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Not a bad little gym, is it?

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Having your own gym doesn't suggest a lack of money.

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But there's still no sign of the crucial Toyota.

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A frustrated Marc calls Lawrence again

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to tell him the vehicle he previously seized has vanished.

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I'll tell him that we'll report that.

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I said, "You had no right to sell that on at that stage

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"because it wasn't your property."

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That's what I'll tell him.

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Theft of it, yes.

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If it was here, I'd be clamping it up.

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See you, mate. Bye-bye.

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Marc wants Mr Matthews to know how serious this has now become.

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That vehicle's going to be reported stolen.

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It'll go onto the ANPR database for the police as a stolen vehicle.

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Preventing a person getting the money they're rightfully owed by breaking a court order

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isn't something the sheriffs take lying down.

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If Marc's right, the case has now changed from a civil to a criminal matter.

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-All right. Cheers. Thank you.

-I hope things pick up.

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Let's cut to the chase. He's got the money to pay

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and he obviously doesn't want to pay.

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We can't find assets that belong to that company,

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and, er, as long as we can't find assets,

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there's not a lot we can do.

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Over a month on from their visit,

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the ownership of the missing Toyota is still being disputed by Darrell Matthews.

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The car has now been declared off-road, its location still unknown.

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Until it is found, Mr Riley will have to wait for the money a court awarded him.

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Back in north London,

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Lawrence and Kev are still at the College of Accountancy & Management Studies,

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trying to get over £9,000 on behalf of marketing consultant Louisa Nightingale.

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She carried out work for the college but was never paid.

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Our job is to seize assets and that's what we're here to do.

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With the college so far not producing any payment,

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Kev's looking for assets to list and seize on paper

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which, if push came to shove, he could remove and sell to pay off the debt.

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They haven't got very much stuff. Nothing of any value, really.

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Kev's not finding much of value. But one item does catch his eye -

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a full set of the Encyclopaedia Britannica.

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I don't know what they are, but I imagine a full set are quite desirable.

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I imagine they're more than any of the computers.

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Second-hand computers are worth next to nothing at auction.

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Lawrence is equally pleased at protege Kev's find.

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-That's a good little spot.

-Excellent.

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They're whole editions, one to 25 or something.

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The only knowledge Lawrence seeks is how much it's worth.

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He hot-foots it to eBay to find out.

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There's loads of them on here.

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1984 complete set, £700.

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It is a full set, as well, because it's giving 25 as a full set.

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1994 - £318.

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Soon after, a consultant for the college arrives to talk to Lawrence.

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He says they're planning on challenging the court award,

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which should prevent Lawrence seizing goods.

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I believe there is a, erm,

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defence being put through, as well,

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that you can't take anything away without anything, er...

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We can if we believe the goods are in jeopardy, erm,

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which, to be fair, I do.

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Two days ago, wheels have been put in motion for a CVA.

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So basically,

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the company is trying to get out of the majority of its debts, by the sound of it.

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The man says the college is hoping to get accreditation from the local council,

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which would enable them to get funding

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to pay off all their creditors.

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Because of this, he says the sheriffs should hold off their enforcement.

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Lawrence disagrees.

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That's something that is, as it were, in the pipeline.

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It doesn't prevent us enforcing today.

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The bottom line is, it needs paying. It should've been paid before now.

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It's got to the stage where CCJs have been issued and not paid.

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The college's solicitor is brought in to discuss the situation with Lawrence on the phone.

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He warns that enforcing payment might mean the end for the company.

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But with a live writ,

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it's not something that will stop Lawrence.

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Whether I kill off the business is irrelevant.

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I'm here to execute a writ on behalf of our claimant.

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If that kills the business off, then so be it. That's not my responsibility.

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It's the responsibility of the directors of the business.

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My belief is, the only way to satisfy this writ is to remove the goods today

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unless payment is received in full,

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and that is the route I'll be going down.

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Dissatisfied with what the college has told him so far,

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Lawrence is getting worried they're not going to pay up.

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So, has the college got funds to settle certainly one of these today,

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the one in the name of the limited company, College of Accountancy & Management Studies Ltd?

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Is there sufficient funds - £6,212.26 - to clear this today?

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Right. Then, we'll be removing goods.

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Having been at the college for nearly an hour and getting increasingly frustrated,

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Lawrence decides to up the ante

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in the hope that it might provoke the college into paying up.

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He calls in the removal truck, or rather removal trucks.

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Can you tell Kathy I need her, erm...

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We're going to need a few 7.5 tonners, aren't we?

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Erm, at least four 7.5 tonners.

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And the four trucks seem to be helping to grease the wheels towards payment.

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Back again.

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I just had a call from the accountant.

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-Yeah.

-They're trying to raise something and they'll get back to you in a few minutes.

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-OK.

-Trying to raise something? Funds?

0:19:400:19:44

The signs are that at least one of the named companies is going to pay up.

0:19:440:19:48

But Lawrence wants to keep the pressure up until the money's in his hands.

0:19:480:19:52

Have you managed to, erm, find four trucks?

0:19:520:19:57

Good, good.

0:19:590:20:01

Good, good. Let me know how long they'll be.

0:20:010:20:04

-Are we getting full payment on this or...?

-Yes.

0:20:040:20:07

Right. Just hold off on the trucks for 15 minutes or so,

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because we might be getting full payment.

0:20:130:20:16

Lawrence's generous 15-minute offer gives him time to check back in with the office.

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He wants them to let him know as soon as the money's transferred. But there's a problem.

0:20:210:20:27

I just need to check a payment, so Sophe or Bev or somebody, please?

0:20:270:20:31

What about Frankie?

0:20:310:20:34

Oh, God! What about... Is Dave in?

0:20:340:20:37

To Lawrence's frustration...

0:20:370:20:39

You're having a laugh!

0:20:390:20:41

..the office is out to lunch.

0:20:410:20:44

-No-one?

-No.

0:20:440:20:46

Mike's on holiday, Dave's not in,

0:20:460:20:48

Bev's on holiday, Frankie's at lunch, Sophie's not in today.

0:20:480:20:53

Finally, 20 minutes later, someone's back in the office to check on the payment.

0:20:530:20:58

All right. Cheers, Frankie. Bye.

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Yes, they're all in the account.

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It's a sparkling result for Lawrence.

0:21:050:21:08

I'll do you a receipt.

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Of the two court orders, he's collected payment in full for the main one

0:21:100:21:14

and seized goods on paper with a view to collecting the second at a later date.

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We eventually collected full payment on one of the cases. It was the larger one.

0:21:190:21:23

Genius Tuition is still outstanding.

0:21:230:21:26

We weren't going to get that out of them today.

0:21:260:21:28

A successful afternoon's work for the sheriffs

0:21:290:21:32

and, more importantly, for Louisa Nightingale.

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While the second writ against Genius Tuition is still being disputed in the courts,

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she's got the money she was owed by the College of Accountancy & Management Studies in full.

0:21:410:21:47

She's come with her sister to celebrate.

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I did expect it to be quite hard for them

0:21:500:21:52

because I wasn't sure what assets they actually had, or if they would pay there and then.

0:21:520:21:57

Really massive weight off my shoulders. I can't believe it. I'm so happy.

0:21:570:22:01

All this hard work's been worth it. It's just great news.

0:22:010:22:04

-So cheers!

-Cheers.

-Cheers to the money!

0:22:040:22:08

I'm an enforcement officer. I've got a high court writ.

0:22:100:22:13

Would you like to send somebody down to speak to me?

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Sheriffs are one of the oldest law-enforcement offices in Britain, dating back to Saxon times.

0:22:160:22:21

But they've come a long way since then.

0:22:210:22:24

They can now enforce wherever and whenever they want...

0:22:240:22:27

We've seized every vehicle on here.

0:22:270:22:30

..to get people back money that's rightfully theirs.

0:22:300:22:33

We are here today to collect £20,741 and a penny.

0:22:330:22:38

Their fees are added to the debtor's bills,

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so if they're successful, there's no more for the client to pay.

0:22:410:22:44

Thank you.

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If they're unsuccessful, the only cost is a £60 admin fee.

0:22:450:22:49

They'll accept debit cards, credit cards, bank transfers

0:22:490:22:52

and cold, hard cash.

0:22:520:22:55

But it must be cleared funds, so they don't take cheques.

0:22:550:22:58

-You won't take a cheque, will you?

-No.

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We cannot leave until that money hits our bank account.

0:23:010:23:04

About to wrestle with the thorny issue of payment methods once again

0:23:160:23:19

are sheriffs Darryl Oreton and Mark Povey.

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They're on their way to Stoke to try and help someone else get back what's rightfully theirs.

0:23:230:23:29

The defendant is from AG Plant Hire Ltd.

0:23:290:23:34

The claimant is a colleague.

0:23:340:23:37

A wall at the home of Colin, who doesn't want us to use his full name,

0:23:370:23:41

was damaged by one of AG Plant Hire's vehicles,

0:23:410:23:43

which was mistakenly driven down the narrow road where he lives.

0:23:430:23:47

Colin took legal action, AG Plant Hire didn't contest it.

0:23:470:23:51

Despite a court ordering the company to pay him £1,018.76,

0:23:510:23:56

he's not received anything.

0:23:560:23:59

So Darryl and Mark arrive at AG Plant Hire's headquarters,

0:23:590:24:03

determined to get Colin what he's owed.

0:24:030:24:06

It's out of the van and inside for the sheriffs.

0:24:100:24:16

-I'm looking for a Mr Gimbert.

-Mr Gimbert?

-Yes.

-He's not here at the minute.

0:24:160:24:21

-I could tell you who could help you.

-Who?

0:24:210:24:24

-The girls in the office.

-Is that through there?

0:24:240:24:27

Cheers.

0:24:270:24:29

-Hiya.

-Hiya.

0:24:290:24:31

We're enforcement officers from the high court, here to see Mr Gimbert.

0:24:310:24:35

I've got a high court writ to execute against Mr Gimbert.

0:24:350:24:39

-You'll have to bear with me.

-That's fine.

0:24:390:24:42

-Wait in reception.

-Yes, no worries.

0:24:420:24:47

While the office worker tries to get in touch with Mr Gimbert,

0:24:470:24:50

Darryl and Mark size up anything they might be able to seize.

0:24:500:24:55

Soon after, Mr Gimbert comes on the phone for Darryl.

0:24:550:24:58

He says the legal case is ongoing and he therefore shouldn't have to pay the money.

0:24:580:25:04

But Darryl's not there to be convinced.

0:25:040:25:07

He's got a writ, and the director's legal action

0:25:070:25:10

won't stop him getting Colin the money he's owed.

0:25:100:25:12

The problem is now, he's gone through the county courts and he's won his case.

0:25:120:25:18

Now it's gone through the high court.

0:25:180:25:20

Our job is to collect full payment or to seize goods to the value of.

0:25:200:25:24

As far as we're concerned, we've got a live writ. It needs to be paid now, sir.

0:25:240:25:29

I can appreciate your situation

0:25:290:25:32

but, as I said, my hands are tied. I need full payment now.

0:25:320:25:36

Understanding Darryl's situation,

0:25:360:25:39

Mr Gimbert accepts he's got to make a payment.

0:25:390:25:42

He asks to pay by cheque.

0:25:420:25:44

I can't accept a cheque. If I could, I would, but I can't.

0:25:440:25:48

No, I'm not being awkward. It's just our office's procedure.

0:25:480:25:53

The director says he'll try and pay by card.

0:25:530:25:56

He goes to try and find some funds and says he'll ring Darryl back.

0:25:560:26:01

15 minutes later, things are looking good for Darryl.

0:26:010:26:04

The company boss rings back to say he's happy to pay.

0:26:040:26:06

The only problem is, he wants to do it by card, over the phone.

0:26:060:26:11

Darryl needs to have the card to physically put in his machine

0:26:110:26:15

and someone to put in the PIN to go with it.

0:26:150:26:20

Despite his displeasure, the owner finally calls back

0:26:220:26:26

with a PIN for a card that's in the office.

0:26:260:26:29

-The only problem is...

-It's blocked.

0:26:290:26:32

It's blocked.

0:26:320:26:34

..it's not exactly what Mr Gimbert wanted to hear.

0:26:340:26:38

I daren't ask what he said!

0:26:390:26:42

The director finally agrees to do the online transfer.

0:26:420:26:47

Darryl gets back in touch with his office to confirm whether it's gone through.

0:26:470:26:51

Can you check on a payment for me, please?

0:26:510:26:55

Thank you.

0:26:560:26:57

And...

0:26:570:26:59

the payment's gone through.

0:26:590:27:02

Job done for Darryl and Mark.

0:27:030:27:07

All paid. He wasn't very happy.

0:27:070:27:10

We had a few differences over the method of payment.

0:27:100:27:13

Obviously, we can't accept payment over the phone

0:27:130:27:16

so he was having a bit of a moan, but eventually we got it paid via an online transfer.

0:27:160:27:20

So all done. Balance nil.

0:27:200:27:23

It's a great result for Darryl

0:27:230:27:25

and, more importantly, for Colin,

0:27:250:27:27

meaning he'll finally get the money a court says is rightfully his.

0:27:270:27:33

AG Plant Hire told us...

0:27:330:27:35

They added...

0:27:390:27:40

It's 7am on the Norfolk coast.

0:27:510:27:54

Sheriffs Lawrence and Kev are on their way to settle a case

0:27:540:27:58

brought to court after a disgruntled electrician saw this programme.

0:27:580:28:02

Lawrence and Kev have already been up for four hours

0:28:020:28:06

and have driven 130 miles.

0:28:060:28:08

I don't like early starts. I don't like it.

0:28:080:28:12

We're looking for a gentleman by the name of Martin Tayt, from HMH Maintenance Ltd.

0:28:120:28:18

The writ's got his name on it, so we're going to his address

0:28:180:28:20

and we'll see what we find when we get there.

0:28:200:28:23

The person they're crossing the country to help

0:28:280:28:30

is electrical engineer Ronnie Wright.

0:28:300:28:33

Ronnie has been running his own business for over 40 years,

0:28:330:28:37

and at the age of 73 it's still a job he loves.

0:28:370:28:41

I still enjoy the work I'm doing,

0:28:410:28:44

although my wife keeps pressuring me to stop and retire.

0:28:440:28:47

But I think if I retire I don't know where I'd be going to, so I still carry on working.

0:28:470:28:53

It's just myself and young Adam, my electrician,

0:28:530:28:57

who's been with me for 28 years.

0:28:570:28:59

But Ronnie came to regret taking on one particular job for a local Norfolk builder

0:29:020:29:06

that's left him stressed, out of pocket

0:29:060:29:09

and forced into legal action.

0:29:090:29:12

I felt let down because, erm, we'd done a good job for him,

0:29:120:29:16

we'd done it in time and we worked well with him,

0:29:160:29:19

we had no problems in working with them.

0:29:190:29:21

So if the work has been done and people are happy,

0:29:210:29:24

I expect to be paid.

0:29:240:29:26

Ronnie's troubles began when the builder,

0:29:330:29:35

Martin Tayt of HMH Maintenance Ltd, got in touch

0:29:350:29:39

needing some electrical work done in two office units he was refurbishing.

0:29:390:29:44

I felt he was a good contractor.

0:29:440:29:46

I gave him a quotation to do the work, which he accepted.

0:29:460:29:50

He did ask me if I could reduce the cost

0:29:500:29:52

and I said, "No, my prices would have to stand,"

0:29:520:29:56

so he accepted my quotation.

0:29:560:29:58

With the price agreed,

0:29:580:30:00

Ronnie and Adam worked hard for six long days,

0:30:000:30:05

completing the job to their usual high standards.

0:30:050:30:07

Basically, putting light fittings,

0:30:070:30:09

recess light fittings in the ceilings,

0:30:090:30:12

wiring them in and wiring in sockets,

0:30:120:30:15

moving sockets, putting new sockets in

0:30:150:30:18

and also IT equipment from the ceiling to the floor.

0:30:180:30:23

These were all installed by us.

0:30:230:30:25

With the job finished, bowls enthusiast Ronnie invoiced Martin Tayt

0:30:250:30:30

for the £1,800 he'd agreed to pay for the work.

0:30:300:30:34

That's where the problem started.

0:30:340:30:36

At this point, the builder seemed to vanish.

0:30:360:30:39

And while Ronnie continued to chase him,

0:30:390:30:42

as weeks and then months passed, his invoice went unacknowledged and unpaid.

0:30:420:30:48

It upset me to feel that I'd been let down in this way.

0:30:480:30:52

Had he contacted me to say that he'd got problems, he couldn't pay me,

0:30:520:30:56

we could've come to some arrangement,

0:30:560:30:58

but I didn't hear anything at all.

0:30:580:31:01

With the money already over two months late,

0:31:010:31:04

Ronnie finally received a call from Mr Tayt, promising to sort out payment.

0:31:040:31:09

But after this, Ronnie heard no more from the builder for some time.

0:31:090:31:13

Still thousands of pounds out of pocket,

0:31:130:31:15

Ronnie grew increasingly frustrated as his letters, calls and emails went unanswered.

0:31:150:31:21

I felt really that I'd been let down in the fact that I hadn't been paid and I wanted to be paid.

0:31:210:31:26

Had it been someone that was just starting business,

0:31:260:31:29

it could've finished them.

0:31:290:31:32

Months passed and Ronnie still didn't receive any payment from Martin Tayt.

0:31:330:31:38

Getting nowhere, he realised he needed to take action.

0:31:380:31:41

Luckily, he found a possible solution after watching TV one morning

0:31:410:31:45

and tuning into The Sheriffs Are Coming.

0:31:450:31:48

I made a decision, enough was enough.

0:31:480:31:51

And after seeing this programme on TV,

0:31:510:31:57

I thought, "I'll try it this way."

0:31:570:32:00

So with that, I got onto the sheriffs.

0:32:000:32:03

Using the internet, Ronnie sued Mr Tayt for the money he owed him.

0:32:030:32:08

When Tayt didn't contest the case, a judge ruled in Ronnie's favour

0:32:080:32:12

and awarded him £2,000,

0:32:120:32:14

which Mr Tayt still failed to pay.

0:32:140:32:17

It's now up to Lawrence and Kev

0:32:190:32:22

to get Ronnie back the money he worked hard to earn.

0:32:220:32:25

After their epic drive, happily they have little trouble finding Mr Tayt's address.

0:32:250:32:30

Well done, mate.

0:32:300:32:33

As the sheriffs make their way up a very lengthy driveway, they spot someone.

0:32:330:32:37

-Is there someone there?

-She's popped out of there.

-Did they?

-There she is, behind that gate.

0:32:370:32:42

However, it looks like they've been spotted, too.

0:32:420:32:45

She just dived into the doors behind there.

0:32:450:32:49

And her dog.

0:32:490:32:50

DOG BARKS

0:32:500:32:53

-Hello?

-By the time Lawrence gets to the gate,

0:32:560:33:00

the person is nowhere to be found.

0:33:000:33:02

Kev is already sensing defeat.

0:33:020:33:04

The figure Lawrence saw has vanished without a trace

0:33:120:33:16

and the rest of the house seems empty, too.

0:33:160:33:19

-You definitely saw someone?

-Huh?

-You definitely saw someone?

-There was a lady.

0:33:190:33:22

-The door was open.

-Was it?

-The side door was open, but the gate was locked.

0:33:220:33:27

Lawrence has the legal power to climb the gate,

0:33:270:33:30

but the dog seems to have put him off.

0:33:300:33:33

Hello? DOG BARKS

0:33:330:33:35

I don't know how aggressive it'd be. I'd rather make friends with it.

0:33:360:33:41

Lawrence looks for another way into the property.

0:33:420:33:45

-What have we got here?

-Look at him, he loves rummaging.

0:33:530:33:56

Rummage, rummage, rummage.

0:33:560:33:59

Nothing worth having in there.

0:33:590:34:02

-There's no movement.

-No Bentleys or Porsches in the garage.

0:34:020:34:05

Open the door!

0:34:050:34:07

Resigned to the fact that whoever Lawrence saw isn't going to talk to them...

0:34:070:34:12

-We'll just drop the paperwork off.

-There's not much we can do. There's no way of getting in.

0:34:120:34:17

..the sheriffs post their paperwork and retire to the van...

0:34:170:34:20

-It's freezing!

-Yes.

0:34:200:34:22

We'll just sit in the van so it looks like we're not going anywhere.

0:34:220:34:25

Brr!

0:34:250:34:28

..where Lawrence has another good idea.

0:34:280:34:31

Let's pretend we're making a phone call.

0:34:310:34:33

"Blah-blah-blah-blah..."

0:34:330:34:35

He pretends to be on the phone in the hope whoever's home

0:34:350:34:39

might think he's ordering tow trucks and decide to talk to him after all.

0:34:390:34:43

"..blah-blah-blah-blah, blah-blah, blah-blah, blah-blah-blah."

0:34:430:34:47

Cunning!

0:34:470:34:49

But even tactics like that aren't going to work.

0:34:500:34:55

What a pile of... Open the door!

0:34:550:34:59

The effort we've made to get here this morning...

0:34:590:35:03

The sheriffs would normally put a clamp on the Mini in the driveway

0:35:030:35:06

to try and elicit a response from inside,

0:35:060:35:09

but their information tells them it doesn't belong to Martin Tayt.

0:35:090:35:13

Whether he's inside, or anyone else today, they don't know.

0:35:130:35:16

But whoever's there isn't going to open up.

0:35:160:35:21

-She's not going to answer, is she?

-I don't think so.

-No chance.

0:35:230:35:27

She knows who we are and she's not answering the door.

0:35:270:35:30

Defeated for the moment, Lawrence and Kev leave the house,

0:35:310:35:34

which, since we filmed, Mr Tayt has now moved out from and sold.

0:35:340:35:39

Bye-bye, little dog. We'll be back!

0:35:390:35:42

But it turned out Lawrence and Kev's long journey wasn't in vain.

0:35:430:35:47

Sometimes, the mere presence of the sheriffs and the delivery of their paperwork

0:35:470:35:52

is enough to make a difference.

0:35:520:35:54

The day after their visit, Martin Tayt had the judgement against him annulled by the court,

0:35:560:36:02

which ruled it shouldn't have been brought against him personally.

0:36:020:36:05

The real debtor was HMH Maintenance Ltd,

0:36:050:36:08

the building company.

0:36:080:36:10

The company's director, one Martin Tayt,

0:36:100:36:13

contacted the sheriffs to pay the debt in full.

0:36:130:36:15

It means Ronnie finally gets the payment

0:36:170:36:19

he should've received all those months ago.

0:36:190:36:22

I had an email saying that everything had been settled by Martin Tayt.

0:36:220:36:28

As soon as I saw the photograph of the house, I was thinking

0:36:280:36:32

his own assets looked quite high -

0:36:320:36:35

why couldn't he afford to pay some of his debts off?

0:36:350:36:38

I was very pleased and relieved.

0:36:380:36:40

Mr Tayt reiterated to us that...

0:36:400:36:42

..but by HMH Maintenance Ltd,

0:36:470:36:50

of which he is a director.

0:36:500:36:52

Chris, navigate a postcode and...

0:37:090:37:10

This afternoon, sheriffs Lawrence and Kev are on the road again,

0:37:100:37:14

this time in Essex. They think.

0:37:140:37:18

It hasn't found the satellite. I've never known anything so bizarre!

0:37:180:37:22

-Stop going on about that and...

-I haven't even turned it on!

-Where am I going?

0:37:220:37:28

Lawrence and Kev are having a few teething problems

0:37:280:37:30

with their new sat-nav,

0:37:300:37:33

en route to a substantial new assignment.

0:37:330:37:36

We're looking for a company called Danimak Ltd at CMS House.

0:37:360:37:41

They're visiting this engineering firm's head office on behalf of a former employee

0:37:410:37:46

who took them to an employment tribunal after he was fired from his job.

0:37:460:37:51

The company didn't contest the case and a judge awarded him over £19,000 in compensation,

0:37:510:37:58

which Danimak Ltd of Dagenham has failed to pay.

0:37:580:38:02

But even with two sat-navs now on the case,

0:38:070:38:10

there's no sign of CMS House, where the company is based.

0:38:100:38:14

This is a CSM truck, so you would hope that that would be a CSM House, wouldn't you?

0:38:140:38:19

Over there, around the bend a bit...

0:38:190:38:22

I don't think that's it. It's not CMS House or anything.

0:38:220:38:27

-Enough is enough for Lawrence.

-Pull over. This is getting stupid.

0:38:280:38:33

That's it. This'll do. It's nice and shady here.

0:38:330:38:37

Let me just do an internet search for Danimak and his house.

0:38:370:38:42

-Oh, CSM House. Right, he's up there.

-Right?

-Yes.

0:38:420:38:46

It's CSM, not CMS House,

0:38:460:38:50

they should've been looking for all along.

0:38:500:38:53

Now armed with the correct address, Kev's convinced he's found the mysterious Danimak.

0:38:530:38:58

-Two containers.

-Where?

-That's it. I'm telling you.

0:38:580:39:03

-Lawrence isn't so sure.

-That's Alloy Tyres, blah, blah, blah. Grand opening.

0:39:030:39:09

Still, with over 20 grand at stake, it's definitely worth checking out.

0:39:090:39:14

Hello?

0:39:140:39:16

Hello?!

0:39:210:39:22

HE JANGLES GATES

0:39:260:39:28

See if that brings somebody out.

0:39:290:39:31

But it soon becomes clear it's not the right address.

0:39:310:39:35

It looks like the sheriffs have had a wasted journey.

0:39:350:39:38

Time to fire up the sat-navs and head for home.

0:39:380:39:42

Just as they're leaving, Kev notices a familiar name on a neighbouring unit.

0:39:420:39:49

Danimak.

0:39:490:39:50

-That's it.

-Yeah. "CSM House" on the postbox.

0:39:500:39:54

At last, they've found it.

0:39:540:39:57

But will this business have the cash they're after?

0:39:570:39:59

Blimey, you take some finding!

0:39:590:40:02

My name's Mr Grix.

0:40:020:40:05

-I'm an enforcement officer.

-OK.

0:40:050:40:07

We're here to execute a high court writ on Danimak Ltd

0:40:070:40:10

for the sum of £22,535.96.

0:40:100:40:14

We're here to seize and, if necessary, remove goods to that value

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-to clear the debt if you can't pay in full.

-OK.

0:40:170:40:21

-My solicitor sent a set-aside claim.

-When was this?

0:40:210:40:27

My paperwork's just there.

0:40:270:40:29

The company director's paperwork confirms

0:40:290:40:31

he's applied to have the court's judgement set aside and is appealing the case.

0:40:310:40:36

But with a live high court writ, this changes little as far as Lawrence is concerned.

0:40:360:40:41

The original order would've said pay by whenever.

0:40:410:40:46

It's normally 28 days or 14 days.

0:40:460:40:49

-Sometimes it says immediately.

-That's why we appealed.

0:40:490:40:51

It doesn't matter what action you're taking,

0:40:510:40:54

until a judge has said, "This is what's going to happen," that judgement stands.

0:40:540:41:00

If you want to prevent further action, you need to pay us

0:41:000:41:03

£22,535.96 in cleared funds.

0:41:030:41:06

It's a large amount for any business to have available,

0:41:060:41:10

especially one based in a Portakabin.

0:41:100:41:13

Lawrence outlines the methods of payment he'll accept.

0:41:130:41:16

Bankers draft, building society cheque, direct transfer,

0:41:160:41:20

-cash, or credit or debit card with a Chip and PIN.

-Yes.

0:41:200:41:24

It can't be done over the phone. It has to be done in person.

0:41:240:41:27

-Have you got a Chip and PIN machine?

-Yes.

-We'll do it.

0:41:270:41:30

-Yes?

-Yes.

-Get the machine, Kev.

0:41:300:41:33

That was a lot easier than Lawrence was expecting.

0:41:340:41:38

But will the huge sum owed to the ex-employee actually go through?

0:41:380:41:43

You might not get a signal. You might have to hold it...

0:41:460:41:48

-No, it's looking good.

-OK.

0:41:480:41:51

Yes, done.

0:41:550:41:58

Five minutes in the office and over £22 grand in the bank. Result.

0:41:580:42:03

-You can't normally do a payment like that on a debit card!

-No!

0:42:030:42:06

Nice refreshing change!

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There you go. I'll write you out a receipt.

0:42:090:42:10

Transaction complete.

0:42:100:42:13

Lawrence is leaving with the full payment he came for.

0:42:130:42:16

-Okey-dokey.

-OK.

-We'll leave you in peace.

-Lovely. That's quite a slick operation!

0:42:160:42:21

-Thanks. Cheers, guys.

-Cheers. Bye.

0:42:210:42:23

That was about as straightforward and easy as you can get.

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Erm...

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We just went in and explained the situation to the man, who was a director,

0:42:300:42:34

gave him the payment options,

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and he just pulled out a company debit card and paid in full.

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-The A-Team are here!

-Dream Team!

-A-Team.

-Dream Team.

0:42:400:42:44

A-Team, BA!

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