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-Meet the Sheriffs. -Let's go and introduce ourselves. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:04 | |
-We're High Court Enforcement Officers. -We're here today to execute a High Court writ. | 0:00:04 | 0:00:08 | |
Their job is to get you your money back. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:11 | |
It's an arrestable offence to stop me doing my job. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
If you've been ripped off and don't know where to turn... | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
-I'm not waiting any more. -I'm ordered to seize goods to clear this debt, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
which would be clearing this place out. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
..if you've been to court but still not been paid what you're owed... | 0:00:21 | 0:00:25 | |
Why don't you just tell me who you are? This is an absolute crock. You need to pay this. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:29 | |
..it's time to call the Sheriffs. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
-I've seized your car, sir. -You can have a letter through the door, or we'll go through the window. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:36 | |
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. | 0:00:36 | 0:00:37 | |
They're Enforcement Officers of the High Court, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
and the law says... | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
they're on your side. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
Just collected 42 grand. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:44 | |
Coming up - fitness instructor Qamar Ahmed plunged into debt | 0:00:49 | 0:00:53 | |
when the company he worked for didn't pay him for months. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:56 | |
'I was behind on mortgage payments. It just became impossible to hold on to my property,' | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
and it was repossessed. | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
Can Sheriff Lawrence Grix weigh in and get him what he's owed? | 0:01:02 | 0:01:06 | |
I'm ordered here to seize goods to clear the debt. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
I'm starting to lose patience, to be honest. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
When Lawrence and Kev visit a man with many identities... | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
You could call yourself Basil Brush. We can enforce against an alias. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
..which one doesn't want them in his house? | 0:01:18 | 0:01:20 | |
Don't put your hands on me! | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
Yeah, what?! What?! | 0:01:26 | 0:01:27 | |
And tempers fray when the Sheriffs visit a tissue factory. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
-Don't -(BLEEP) -touch my bloody stuff again! | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
Will the Sheriffs be soft or strong as they battle to recover an unpaid debt? | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
I don't want to stop your business from trading, but that's where we're at. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
It's 6.30am, and Enforcement Officers Lawrence Grix | 0:01:47 | 0:01:50 | |
and Kev McNally are on the road. | 0:01:50 | 0:01:52 | |
They're in Hayling Island, near Portsmouth, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:56 | |
on their way to meet a man of many names. | 0:01:56 | 0:01:58 | |
We've got a defendant by the name of Mr Joseph White. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
The Sheriffs have visited the address before, but the man | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
living there claimed not to be Joseph White, but Joseph McVeigh. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:12 | |
What's more, vehicles there belonged to a Joseph Mayday. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
Lawrence, however, believes all these Josephs are one | 0:02:16 | 0:02:19 | |
and the same person, and intends to prove it so he can enforce the writ. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:24 | |
He's given us the runaround a bit, but hopefully today, we've got sufficient paperwork with us, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:29 | |
sufficient evidence to shut the man up, basically. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:32 | |
The total due is £28,605.32. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:38 | |
Lawrence and Kev are visiting on behalf of two former tenants | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
who've been awarded substantial sums by the court | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
after falling into dispute with landlord Joseph White over their tenancy deposit. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:53 | |
Arriving at the substantial premises, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
it's looking hopeful there'll be seizable assets on site. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:01 | |
No-one's up. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
It gives Lawrence plenty of time to list vehicles to potentially seize. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:10 | |
There was a noise there. There's definitely someone in. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:15 | |
Finally, they manage to raise someone from inside the house. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
-Hello there, sir. -Hi. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:21 | |
I'm looking for Joseph White AKA Joseph McVeigh, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
formerly known as Joseph Mayday - would that be yourself, sir? | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
Who? | 0:03:27 | 0:03:29 | |
Joseph White AKA Joseph McVeigh, formerly known as Joseph Mayday... | 0:03:29 | 0:03:35 | |
No. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:37 | |
Recognise him from the photo. | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
At this point, our cameraman is asked to leave. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:47 | |
The man says he IS Joseph McVeigh. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
You were formerly Joseph Mayday, is that correct? | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
Did you change your name by deed poll, did you? | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
Mr McVeigh confirms he WAS known as Joseph Mayday | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
but denies he has ever been known as Joseph White. | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
This is a problem for Lawrence, as Joseph White is the name on his writ. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
Lawrence is convinced Mr McVeigh IS Mr White, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
but he has to prove it. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:11 | |
Yeah, it's you, sir, and we're here today to seize goods | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
to the value of £28,605.32. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
The man says he knows nothing about the case | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
and continues to insist he's not Mr White. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
Right, who owns the Nissan Navara? | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
Lawrence threatens to remove the car. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:29 | |
Mr McVeigh says he can't, because it belongs to his son. | 0:04:29 | 0:04:33 | |
If your son doesn't live here, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
why does he leave all his vehicles here...and where's your vehicle? | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
These are your vehicles, aren't they? | 0:04:38 | 0:04:40 | |
They're registered in your son's name. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
Well, we require proof otherwise, sir. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:44 | |
He needs to come down with proof of ownership, sir, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:46 | |
or we're going to remove, OK? | 0:04:46 | 0:04:47 | |
Mr McVeigh goes inside to contact his son. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
Meanwhile, Lawrence and Kev have found something interesting in the paperwork. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:57 | |
Who does a "J" like that? | 0:04:57 | 0:04:59 | |
That's him. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
Comparing two signatures, | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
Lawrence believes the distinctive "J"s | 0:05:03 | 0:05:05 | |
are a dead giveaway that they're signed by one person. | 0:05:05 | 0:05:09 | |
He believes he's got his man. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
Look at that "J". | 0:05:12 | 0:05:14 | |
That is you, sir. There is the "J" of J White, you have signed that. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
Yes, you have, sir. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:18 | |
It's very identifiable, isn't it? | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
Highly identifiable. You are also known as Joseph White. | 0:05:21 | 0:05:25 | |
That's quite...that's quite an unmistakable "J". | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
Even faced with Lawrence's evidence, Mr McVeigh insists | 0:05:30 | 0:05:33 | |
he is not Mr White. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:35 | |
But Lawrence is convinced. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
-You're known as J White, Joseph White. -No. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
Yes, you are, sir. We can enforce against an alias. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:43 | |
If you're the person... You could call yourself Basil Brush. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
If you're the person known as Basil Brush, | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
then we can enforce against you or Basil Brush. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
With negotiations going nowhere, Kev decides to step things up. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
Determined to get the former tenants the money they're owed, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:00 | |
he heads to the van to get the clamp for the Navara. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:04 | |
Meanwhile, and much to his surprise... | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
Oh, he's gone in. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:08 | |
..Lawrence is invited into the house. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
Perhaps Mr McVeigh doesn't realise that once inside, | 0:06:12 | 0:06:16 | |
Lawrence can get listing assets, and not even the police can remove him. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:21 | |
I'm surprised he's been invited in, to be fair. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
'You've now let me into your house, so I will be clearing it out. | 0:06:24 | 0:06:28 | |
'That is how it goes.' | 0:06:28 | 0:06:30 | |
This is not what the man expected | 0:06:30 | 0:06:32 | |
when he invited Lawrence into the house. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:34 | |
He begins to take exception to Lawrence's presence. | 0:06:34 | 0:06:38 | |
'We're not bouncers with a clipboard - | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
'we're authorised to come here by the High Court. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
'I'm not leaving the premises, sir. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
'I'm within my rights to be here, and I will be removing goods today | 0:06:44 | 0:06:49 | |
'unless you clear this debt.' | 0:06:49 | 0:06:50 | |
Suddenly, tempers fray. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
'No, don't try and push me out of the house, sir.' | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
With the temperature rising inside, Kev goes to Lawrence's aid. | 0:06:55 | 0:07:00 | |
Come in, mate. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:01 | |
Don't put your hands on me! | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
Don't...don't put your hands on me! | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
Don't put your hands on me! | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
I've gained peaceful entry, which entitles my colleague | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
and anybody else I invite in... | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
With things turning nasty, the police are called. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
While they wait for them to arrive, Lawrence ramps up the pressure. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:24 | |
I'll need a truck to take away a Nissan Navara. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:27 | |
It's already on the file - 57 plate, Nissan Navara. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:34 | |
And Lawrence's tactics have an immediate effect. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:37 | |
Despite continuing to insist he's not the debtor Mr White, | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
Mr McVeigh agrees to pay off some of the debt - £5,000. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:45 | |
But Lawrence is holding out for more. | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
I might be able to take half. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
The debt, as it stands at the moment, is not what's on there obviously, | 0:07:51 | 0:07:55 | |
cos we've had lots of visits. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:58 | |
With Lawrence standing firm, | 0:07:58 | 0:07:59 | |
Mr McVeigh ups his payment to £7,000 of the 28,000 owed. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:05 | |
With matters reaching a conclusion for today, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
the police car is cancelled. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
My colleague's in the process of taking the clamp off your van. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:14 | |
That's your copy of the receipt. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:15 | |
And with a part payment, it's over for today. | 0:08:15 | 0:08:18 | |
Lawrence's canny detective work | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
and tenacious arguing has once again come up trumps. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
As far as I'm concerned, that was a result | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
because there's not a lot of evidence that Joseph McVeigh | 0:08:28 | 0:08:31 | |
is or was Joseph White. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:34 | |
I'm pretty sure he is, | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
and the fact that he volunteered to pay some money sort of implies that. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
That will keep the wolf from the door for the time being. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:44 | |
And he can take whatever legal action he needs to take, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
and obviously we'll go by whatever the court says. | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
After we filmed, Joseph White AKA Joseph McVeigh... | 0:08:55 | 0:08:59 | |
He and his former tenants attended court, where they... | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
..in full and final settlement. | 0:09:08 | 0:09:10 | |
It's early morning, and Enforcement Officers Lawrence and Kev | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
are in the van again and coming into Watford. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:31 | |
They're here to settle a debt with a local gym, Fitness4Less, | 0:09:31 | 0:09:34 | |
whose relationship with a personal trainer hasn't...worked out. | 0:09:34 | 0:09:39 | |
With a gym, I would think you'd find sufficient assets there to clear | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
the debt, so we'll be looking for full payment. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
The man they're on their way to help is Qamar Ahmed, from Watford. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
His personal fitness is everything to him, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
and working out is his passion. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
But it's not just a hobby - it's also his livelihood, | 0:09:56 | 0:09:59 | |
as a professional personal trainer. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
After deciding to make personal training his career seven years ago, | 0:10:04 | 0:10:08 | |
Qamar took a job with a local gym, Sports Academy. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
It's the best job I've had, it was fantastic. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:14 | |
But Sports Academy ran into financial problems, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
with wages paid only sporadically. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
The company was taken over by a new firm, Fitness4Less. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:27 | |
They inherited the Sports Academy wage bill | 0:10:27 | 0:10:29 | |
and Qamar and the other staff | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
hoped they'd finally get paid what they were owed. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
Two breaths, let's go. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
But at a meeting with staff, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
the new owner had some hugely disappointing news. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
They categorically said that they're not going to pay our wages | 0:10:41 | 0:10:44 | |
in front of the previous owner who had, five minutes before, | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
just said that the new owners will pay us our backdated wages. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:51 | |
Qamar was owed just over £4,000 in unpaid wages, | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
so, together with the other disgruntled staff, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:58 | |
he agreed to help bring legal action to fight their case. | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
They had already made it pretty obvious | 0:11:02 | 0:11:04 | |
they had no intention of paying us that money. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:06 | |
So that was the only sensible thing to do. | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
We had to take it through the courts, | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
so we had to stick together | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
and we had to take this to the tribunal. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
When the judge heard the case, | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
he ruled that when the business was sold, | 0:11:19 | 0:11:21 | |
the new owner should take on the responsibility | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
for the previous company's unpaid debts, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
including backdated wages. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
It was vindication for Qamar. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
Justice. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
Justice has been done. Absolutely. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:34 | |
It was a great feeling. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
But getting the money he was owed wasn't quite as simple as that. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
Fitness4Less began to settle with Sports Academy's former employees, | 0:11:39 | 0:11:44 | |
but a signed agreement for Qamar wasn't forthcoming. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
A lot of my colleagues at this point started to get paid off. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
I was still being positive, I was thinking, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
OK, maybe they're going through reverse alphabetical order | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
and I'm going to get paid right at the end. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:58 | |
So I was waiting and waiting and waiting | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
and that money just did not come through. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
The stress of the legal fight | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
and failure to pay him the money he was owed | 0:12:06 | 0:12:08 | |
took its toll on Qamar. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:10 | |
He was diagnosed with acute depression | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
and signed off work. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:13 | |
That was the beginning of my dark path | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
that I had to go down. I found myself alone, | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
I found myself often spending days | 0:12:20 | 0:12:23 | |
with the curtains shut... | 0:12:23 | 0:12:25 | |
and I just didn't want to be seen by anyone, really. | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
Without his unpaid wages, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
Qamar's financial situation went from bad to worse. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
Eventually, it cost him his home. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
That's where I used to live. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:40 | |
As soon as I stopped getting paid by Fitness4Less | 0:12:40 | 0:12:43 | |
I was behind on mortgage payments. | 0:12:43 | 0:12:45 | |
It just became impossible to hold on to my property | 0:12:45 | 0:12:48 | |
and it was repossessed. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:50 | |
I've been put up by good friends | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
and they've helped me through a lot. | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
Finally, a few months after the tribunal hearings, | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
Qamar received a part payment from Fitness4Less. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
He was promised the rest would follow, but it didn't, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:07 | |
so he went back to the employment tribunal. | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
I'm very stubborn. There was no way I was going to give up on that, no way. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:14 | |
No way. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:15 | |
Fitness4Less didn't attend the latest tribunal hearing, | 0:13:17 | 0:13:21 | |
and a judgment was issued in Qamar's favour. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:23 | |
But, despite this, Qamar still hasn't been paid. | 0:13:23 | 0:13:27 | |
So now it's up to Lawrence and Kev | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
to get Qamar the money and the closure he so desperately wants. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:34 | |
Back in Watford, Lawrence and Kev | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
have finally found a place to park up. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
So we can't stop here, though. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
With a deep-seated fear of traffic wardens, | 0:13:46 | 0:13:48 | |
Lawrence leaves Kev with the van - | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
this is going to be one writ | 0:13:50 | 0:13:53 | |
he'll have to enforce alone. | 0:13:53 | 0:13:55 | |
He's stayed with the van | 0:13:55 | 0:13:56 | |
because it's got clamping signs and tow-away signs and things. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
Hello there. My name's Mr Grix. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
I'm an Enforcement Officer. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:08 | |
I'm here to execute a High Court writ against Fitness4Less Watford Ltd. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:13 | |
Basically I'm ordered here by the court today | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
to seize goods to the value of £5,399.58 | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
with a view to selling them at public auction | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
to clear this debt. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:23 | |
Yeah. Qamar Ahmed. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:29 | |
While the manager gets on the phone to his superiors, | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
Lawrence gets to work making notes on equipment. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
If need be, he could seize and remove machinery | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
to pay off the debt. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:43 | |
Right, I'm ordered here, as I say, to seize goods to clear the debt - | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
it can be prevented by full payment. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:54 | |
So your manager, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:56 | |
your director, whoever... | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
The manager runs off to call his boss again | 0:14:59 | 0:15:03 | |
while Lawrence tries to work out which exercise machine is which. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
Handily, it's all labelled up with what it is! | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
The manager is back, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
and this time he's got a message for Lawrence. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
His boss says the Sheriffs can't take a thing. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
No. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
No. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:25 | |
Unfortunately, it's a line Lawrence has heard many times before. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:29 | |
I'll draw your attention to that bit. | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
"You are now commanded to seize in execution | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
"the goods chattels and other property of the defendant." | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
It doesn't order us to give notice, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
it orders us to seize the goods to be sold at auction. | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
The manager gets back on the phone, | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
but he's soon back to update Lawrence. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:49 | |
Yeah. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
Yeah. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:57 | |
If he normally starts at ten and he's sorting out his private life | 0:15:57 | 0:16:01 | |
then that's entirely down to him. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:04 | |
Yeah, I think we're going to get paid in full. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
It's looking promising, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:11 | |
but Lawrence knows better | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
than to count his pennies until they're firmly in his hand. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
Having agreed to wait, it seems he might not even need to - | 0:16:18 | 0:16:21 | |
the gym manager is back with good news. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:25 | |
Oh, right. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:26 | |
He's doing the transfer, is he? | 0:16:26 | 0:16:28 | |
All Lawrence needs to do | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
is wait to see that the funds have come through | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
and it's job done. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
Can you just keep your eye on the bank account for me? | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
Half an hour later, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:45 | |
Lawrence is still waiting for payment. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:47 | |
We, meanwhile, are asked to stop filming. | 0:16:47 | 0:16:50 | |
I'm starting to lose patience, to be honest. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:53 | |
Nearly an hour after he was explicitly told | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
that the money had been transferred, | 0:16:56 | 0:16:58 | |
Lawrence gets a call from the account manager | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
who is only now making the payment | 0:17:00 | 0:17:02 | |
and wants the account details - again. | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
I'm now charging the waiting time, OK? | 0:17:05 | 0:17:08 | |
So there's another £217.80 | 0:17:08 | 0:17:11 | |
to add to that bill. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:13 | |
That's what mucking about is. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:14 | |
Being told that a payment's being made | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
two hours before it is. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:19 | |
With Lawrence beginning to flex his muscles, | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
Fitness4Less are beginning to feel the burn. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:25 | |
They decide to cut their losses and pay up. | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
This time, the money does go through. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Payment at last. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:33 | |
But despite his success, | 0:17:33 | 0:17:34 | |
Lawrence is still feeling the frustration of his visit. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
I could have been gone from there probably two hours before I was, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
so in the end I did charge them an hour's waiting time. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
Let's get out of here. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:47 | |
And, most importantly, | 0:17:47 | 0:17:48 | |
they can report back | 0:17:48 | 0:17:50 | |
that Qamar will finally receive the money that's due to him. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
I'm very happy, and I'd like to say thank you to them. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
I think I made the right choice, for sure. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
With that money, I'm going to set up my own personal training business | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
and I'm going to make a difference in my life | 0:18:03 | 0:18:06 | |
and I'm going to make a difference in the lives of my clients as well. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:09 | |
Fitness4Less told us | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
that when they took over the Sports Academy gym | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
they did not know about unpaid staff wages | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
and that legal advice they were given at the time | 0:18:19 | 0:18:21 | |
indicated they should not be responsible. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:23 | |
They believe they made all reasonable effort | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
to get Qamar his money, | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
including writing him a cheque for him to collect from them. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
They said, however, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:32 | |
that despite numerous efforts to get in touch with Qamar | 0:18:32 | 0:18:35 | |
they were unable to reach him | 0:18:35 | 0:18:37 | |
and that he left them no forwarding contact details. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
Qamar's unpaid wage bill | 0:18:45 | 0:18:46 | |
is just one of 70,000 High Court writs | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
enforced by Sheriffs in England and Wales every year. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
We're Enforcement Officers. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
We've got a High Court writ to attend here today. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
We're higher than a bailiff. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:58 | |
Sheriffs have more power than County Court bailiffs, | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
and obstructing them in their work is a criminal offence. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
You've now trapped us in here, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
we're going to need to call the police. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
A High Court writ costs £60. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:11 | |
If the Sheriffs are successful, that's it. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
If they're unsuccessful, the only cost is a £60 admin fee. | 0:19:14 | 0:19:19 | |
We've removed one vehicle, we've seized all the other vehicles. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
It was £6,900 there. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
Paid it straightaway, so it's all good. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
Enforcement officers Craig Wilde and Tom Coyle | 0:19:37 | 0:19:39 | |
are on their way to help a business customer | 0:19:39 | 0:19:42 | |
recover a substantial unpaid debt. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
We're off to Wolverhampton today. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
The defendant in this case that we're going to see | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
is Alliance Paper & Tissue Ltd. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:52 | |
It's £10,750.19. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:56 | |
Alliance Paper & Tissue Ltd had some machinery installed, | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
but still haven't paid the supplier. | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
This is Tom's second visit | 0:20:04 | 0:20:06 | |
he was here a couple of weeks ago, | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
when Alliance Paper & Tissue Ltd | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
promised they would pay the debt. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
He ended up doing a part payment of £2,500 on the day. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
But this is one of the Sheriffs' more complex cases. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
There are two companies trading here. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:23 | |
Tom found it confusing last time, | 0:20:23 | 0:20:26 | |
and it's about to get even more so. | 0:20:26 | 0:20:28 | |
Tom runs for the open door to gain access to the building. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
Hello? | 0:20:37 | 0:20:38 | |
Now he's in, he can't be thrown out. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
Mr Patel about? | 0:20:41 | 0:20:42 | |
Tom met company boss Mr Patel when he was here before. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:48 | |
Do you want to talk in there? Yeah, no problem. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
What's the situation? | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
Yeah, yeah, no problem. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
While Tom waits for word from the accountant, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
Craig is looking for seizable property. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
The big warehouses are locked | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
and in the open one, there's not much of value. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
There's just a bit of tissue paper here that is worth some money, | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
clearly not £10,000. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
I'll go and help Tom now. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
With word back from the accountant, there's a problem - | 0:21:19 | 0:21:22 | |
Mr Patel now says the company trading here is AP Paper & Tissue, | 0:21:22 | 0:21:27 | |
which is what the signs on the building say. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
He claims that the company on Tom's writ, | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
Alliance Paper & Tissue Ltd, | 0:21:32 | 0:21:34 | |
is in administration. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:35 | |
If Alliance Paper & Tissue IS in administration, | 0:21:46 | 0:21:49 | |
or all of the assets are owned by another company, | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
it's bad news for Craig and Tom. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
Craig checks with Companies House, the official register of companies. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
There is a company called Alliance Paper & Tissue Ltd, | 0:22:00 | 0:22:02 | |
and it is trading. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
The company that's going into administration | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
is nothing to do with their company. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:08 | |
Our company is still operating and trading | 0:22:08 | 0:22:10 | |
and you've liquidated the old company. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:12 | |
It now appears that the original company named on the writ | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
had its name changed | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
and was then put into administration. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
Another company with the same director, Ghanshyam Patel, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:23 | |
was later renamed Alliance Paper & Tissue Ltd. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
So when Craig searched on the company name, | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
it appeared to be trading. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:31 | |
Mr Patel gets his accountant on the line again | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
to try to explain. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
I've got the Sheriff here, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
do you want to speak to him? | 0:22:39 | 0:22:40 | |
It's a High Court writ of fi fa | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
for Alliance Paper & Tissue Ltd. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
The accountant again says Alliance Paper & Tissue | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
is in administration. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:51 | |
Craig's research shows it's alive and well. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
As a company called Alliance Paper Paper & Tissue | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
is still in business, | 0:22:57 | 0:22:58 | |
the Sheriffs will continue to list goods for seizure | 0:22:58 | 0:23:02 | |
and, if necessary, Mr Patel can contest the seizure in court. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
Well, we're going to carry on, unfortunately. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
As Craig digs up more evidence, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:17 | |
tempers fray in the tissue factory. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
If you start stopping me doing my job, | 0:23:20 | 0:23:22 | |
that is an criminal offence | 0:23:22 | 0:23:24 | |
and I'll have you arrested for that. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:25 | |
-What? -No need to get violent, is there? | 0:23:25 | 0:23:27 | |
We'll come back to Wolverhampton later | 0:23:27 | 0:23:29 | |
to see if the Sheriffs can get the debt paid. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
This morning, Sheriffs Marc Newton and Tony Smith | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
are heading down the M4 into Wales. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
We're going to the National Engine Centre in... | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
Cardiff. | 0:23:53 | 0:23:55 | |
Total amount outstanding is £4,164.83. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:59 | |
The Sheriffs are on their way | 0:24:01 | 0:24:03 | |
to help David Conway and his wife Dorothy | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
from Billingham, in Teesside. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
He's been retired for the past 20 years | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
and now loves to spend his spare time flying. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
This is me hangar, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
these are pride and joys. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
Noddy's my best. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
Yeah. The planes are part of my life. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
They're very important to me. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
If I didn't have the planes, | 0:24:25 | 0:24:27 | |
I would be just sat watching television all day. | 0:24:27 | 0:24:30 | |
I've crashed dozens and dozens. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
This is my latest. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
I'm known as Crasher Conway | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
because I've had so many crashes. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
As his enthusiasm for his hobby has grown, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
so has the size of his planes. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
If David wanted to keep his hobby on the straight and level | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
he needed to buy a car to transport the planes in. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
He decided the perfect vehicle was a Renault Grand Espace. | 0:24:50 | 0:24:54 | |
At the National Engine Centre in Cardiff, | 0:24:55 | 0:24:57 | |
David thought he had found the car he so desperately needed. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:01 | |
I'd seen the car online. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
The car was in good condition, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
one previous owner, and I really wanted this car, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
I didn't want any other car. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:10 | |
So I got on the train and went and got it. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
It was an exhausting 600-mile round trip from Billingham to Cardiff, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
but David really wanted the car. | 0:25:17 | 0:25:19 | |
When he arrived at National Engine Centre, | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
David wanted to try the Espace. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:24 | |
He was allowed to take it for a brief test drive. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
I thought it was a nice car, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:29 | |
so I went ahead and bought it. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
The Renault Espace cost David £2,500, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:36 | |
all the savings he and his wife had. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:38 | |
But it was only four miles down the road | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
when disaster struck. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
The car started losing power | 0:25:43 | 0:25:45 | |
and eventually it stopped. | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
Stranded with a barely working car | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
somewhere in Cardiff, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
David didn't know where to turn. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:55 | |
Fortunately, he was able to get the car back to the garage | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
and he asked for a refund. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:00 | |
But the garage said if he wanted one, | 0:26:00 | 0:26:03 | |
he'd have to leave the car in Cardiff | 0:26:03 | 0:26:05 | |
and wait till Monday when appropriate staff could process it. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:09 | |
I couldn't leave the car there and leave me money there. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:14 | |
So I had to bring the car back. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
With no refund, | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
David realised he would have to nurse the car 300 miles back home. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
It took me over seven hours to drive back home | 0:26:23 | 0:26:26 | |
and it really was horrendous. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
Desperate to find out what was wrong, | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
David took the car to a local garage. | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
They diagnosed the problem as a dodgy engine control unit | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
and a faulty valve in the exhaust system. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:40 | |
They couldn't give me an exact price, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
but they said it could go into thousands. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
David immediately contacted the National Engine Centre | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
hoping for a quick resolution, but none could be agreed. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:54 | |
It left him with the undrivable Espace grounded outside his home, | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
constantly reminding him of the ordeal. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:01 | |
It's put so much pressure and stress on my wife and I. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
David was left with no option | 0:27:08 | 0:27:09 | |
but to take National Engine Centre to court. They failed to show up, | 0:27:09 | 0:27:13 | |
and a judgment was issued in David's favour. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:16 | |
The garage applied to have the case set aside | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
but once again were absent, and again David won the case. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
Despite victory, David still hasn't received a penny. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
I feel so annoyed that he's, he's got away with it. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:31 | |
With nobody left to help, it's now down to the Sheriffs to | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
answer David's distress signal. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
Tony and Marc have found National Engine Centre. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
There it is, there. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
Quite big, isn't it? | 0:27:55 | 0:27:56 | |
They head in to try and get David the money he's owed. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
-Hiya, mate. -Morning. -It's about the High Court writ that's been | 0:28:02 | 0:28:05 | |
issued by a David Knox Conway. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
The claimant sent us out to collect the money. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
-Can I speak to my boss? -Yeah, no worries. We'll wait here. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
While the man heads off to get his boss, | 0:28:13 | 0:28:15 | |
Marc is already getting a bad feeling about this job. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
I said, "Is that the National Engine Centre?" He said, "Yeah," and then he said he don't work here. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:23 | |
-You are after me? -National Engine Centre. -National Engine Centre. | 0:28:23 | 0:28:26 | |
Can I have a look? | 0:28:26 | 0:28:27 | |
-It's not us, mate, see you later. -Who's that? Who is it then? | 0:28:27 | 0:28:31 | |
That's not us. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:33 | |
Well, it says National Engine Centre up there. | 0:28:33 | 0:28:35 | |
-Yeah. What does it say on the end? -It says "Ltd". -Yeah. | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
The man claims that the name on the writ, National Engine Centre, isn't here. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:44 | |
The company trading at these premises is Nat Engine Centre Ltd. | 0:28:44 | 0:28:48 | |
Cheery-bye. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:49 | |
After a less than warm welcome, our camera is asked to leave. | 0:28:49 | 0:28:54 | |
The conversation carries on in the office, | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
where the man, Mr Peter Anderson, denies being the company director | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
of National Engine Centre, or Nat Engine Centre Ltd. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
But he refuses to find any proof. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:06 | |
The more info you can show us, the better it is. | 0:29:06 | 0:29:08 | |
You got your Companies House certificate? | 0:29:08 | 0:29:10 | |
Why would you not do that if it's nothing to do with you? | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
You're moaning we're here and then you're not willing to help out. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
It doesn't take long for Marc to find evidence contradicting the man's story. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:20 | |
You just had a delivery for the National Engine Centre. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
That box there. The one that says "National Engine Centre" on top. | 0:29:22 | 0:29:25 | |
If you don't show us proof, we're going to start seizing goods. | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
Then things start to rev up at the Engine Centre. | 0:29:29 | 0:29:32 | |
Get up, get everyone out the garage. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
I want these guys to leave, they won't go. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:37 | |
Yeah, yeah, they're going to be in breach of the peace now. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:40 | |
But it seems his staff aren't quite as keen to go toe to toe | 0:29:40 | 0:29:44 | |
with the Sheriffs as he thought. | 0:29:44 | 0:29:45 | |
So he calls the police instead. | 0:29:45 | 0:29:47 | |
He's actually being quite awkward at the moment. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
Unfortunately, he's not cooperating at all. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
He's called the police and said there's been a breach of the peace, which there hasn't, really, | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
but we're just waiting for them to arrive now. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
20 minutes later, the police arrive. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
With Mr Anderson talking to the police, Marc and Tony take stock. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:09 | |
The police are telling him he needs to pay or else we're going to start | 0:30:09 | 0:30:14 | |
removing the goods, so that's where we are, we're just waiting to see | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
what happens, whether we can budge him into getting to pay some money. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
It looks like the only way the Sheriffs will get | 0:30:21 | 0:30:24 | |
David his money is by seizing goods. | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
Marc's been looking at what's available, and phones | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
the office to tell them about the substantial stock of engines. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:33 | |
This is loads of engines, I mean, loads. | 0:30:33 | 0:30:35 | |
When I say loads, I mean loads. | 0:30:35 | 0:30:37 | |
There's loads of them out there. There's hundreds of them. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:40 | |
How did National Engine Centre Ltd gain all them engines? | 0:30:42 | 0:30:45 | |
They didn't just turn up one day with all them engines, did they, and put them in there? | 0:30:45 | 0:30:49 | |
They came from somewhere. | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
With the argument stalling, Marc offers the man an ultimatum - | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
provide receipts for each and every engine, pay the debt, | 0:30:54 | 0:30:58 | |
or say goodbye to the whole lot. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:01 | |
Every single thing that's in that workshop, | 0:31:01 | 0:31:03 | |
I need a receipt for, in the name of Nat Engine Centre Ltd. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:07 | |
Right, the situation is, my colleague is now on the phone. | 0:31:07 | 0:31:10 | |
Tony's ordering up a truck. It's going to be a big one. | 0:31:10 | 0:31:14 | |
Seven-and-a-half tonne will probably be enough, | 0:31:14 | 0:31:17 | |
but then you're going to need a forklift, | 0:31:17 | 0:31:18 | |
because he ain't going to let you use his forklift, tell you that now. | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
He's the most difficult person I've met. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:23 | |
If you pay now, it will be that price, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:25 | |
but I'm telling you, it will go up, and it will go up by thousands. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:28 | |
But with the tow truck on its way and his engines about to | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
leave the premises, Mr Anderson has a sudden change of heart. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:36 | |
-Marc... -What, money? -Yeah. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:40 | |
Though Mr Anderson isn't admitting who owns the engines, | 0:31:40 | 0:31:43 | |
he IS offering to pay. But he's not offering enough. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
-All right, what about half of it then? -Meet us halfway. -Two grand. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
-Come on, come on. -You Welsh boys have all got loads of money. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:52 | |
Finally, the Sheriffs win the battle of wills | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
and head back to the office for payment. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
Take that, that's just to say he's paid us £1,250 in cash there. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:04 | |
Cheers, thank you. Bye-bye. | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
Let's go, get out of Wales. | 0:32:08 | 0:32:10 | |
Mr Anderson has paid £1,250 today, | 0:32:12 | 0:32:15 | |
and promises to put a payment plan in place to cover the rest. | 0:32:15 | 0:32:19 | |
Not as great as we wanted, but we've got £1,250 in cash off him here, | 0:32:19 | 0:32:24 | |
so it's a start. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:26 | |
But despite Tony and Marc's efforts, Mr Anderson failed to submit | 0:32:26 | 0:32:30 | |
a payment proposal for the outstanding amount. | 0:32:30 | 0:32:33 | |
Three weeks later, the Sheriffs returned | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
and collected the balance of £3,744. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:41 | |
David Conway is on cloud nine. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
The money has enabled him to settle his debt | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
and buy the car of his dreams - another Renault Grand Espace. | 0:32:50 | 0:32:54 | |
The Sheriffs have come along and really done the business. | 0:32:54 | 0:32:58 | |
Yeah, over the moon. | 0:32:58 | 0:32:59 | |
The National Engine Centre told us | 0:33:01 | 0:33:03 | |
they had offered David a refund the day he visited | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
and it was his decision to instead have them repair the car | 0:33:06 | 0:33:09 | |
and drive it home. | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
They said they'd later sent him a replacement part | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
and offered to pay for a local garage to fix the problems. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:18 | |
They'd also again offered him a refund if he returned the car. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:23 | |
They said it was Mr Conway's decision to turn down these options | 0:33:23 | 0:33:26 | |
and instead pursue court action. | 0:33:26 | 0:33:29 | |
They said they had tried to contest the case | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
but that the court had lost papers. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:34 | |
They said, following the Sheriffs' enforcement, | 0:33:34 | 0:33:37 | |
they'd again offered to pay the balance | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
if the car was returned to them - | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
an offer they say Mr Conway chose to reject. | 0:33:41 | 0:33:44 | |
At the paper company in Wolverhampton, | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
the management claims the company on Tom's writ is in administration, | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
and doesn't have to pay. | 0:33:59 | 0:34:01 | |
But while searching for goods to seize, Craig has found invoices | 0:34:01 | 0:34:05 | |
that seem to prove Alliance Paper & Tissue Ltd | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
HAS been trading here. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
That date, still taking orders as of this date. | 0:34:10 | 0:34:14 | |
-The day after... You are. -This is all scrap. It's off to bin. | 0:34:15 | 0:34:18 | |
It's not scrap, sir, that's the 30th August, | 0:34:18 | 0:34:20 | |
the day after you're saying this company goes into administration. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
-Listen to me... -This company has never gone into administration, sir. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
-Listen to me. -He will call you back now, won't he? | 0:34:26 | 0:34:29 | |
-Leave my personal things. -Now we're digging, aren't we? | 0:34:29 | 0:34:31 | |
-What? -No need to get violent, is there? | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
-Now I've found you out... -Don't you -BLEEP -touch my bloody stuff again. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:36 | |
Now I've found you out, we're going to carry on. | 0:34:36 | 0:34:40 | |
-Do you understand? -I do understand. -That's right. -What do you understand? | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
-I understand fully the situation, sir. -Yeah. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
-Old paperwork is it? -Yeah, yeah. There you are. | 0:34:47 | 0:34:49 | |
Rip it up, that's fine. I'll find some more here, to be fair. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:53 | |
Oh, we'll carry on. Not a problem at all. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
Mr Patel, that was the issue which I was explaining to you. | 0:34:56 | 0:34:59 | |
-There's paperwork everywhere. -Listen to me... -I've listened to you. | 0:34:59 | 0:35:04 | |
Why... Make a big deal about it? It's a High Court order. | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
It's not a case of making a big deal about it, sir. | 0:35:07 | 0:35:09 | |
-Here we go again, look. -Leave that stuff. Don't touch so many... Listen. | 0:35:09 | 0:35:12 | |
-It's called diligent search, sir. -Oh, "diligent search"? | 0:35:12 | 0:35:15 | |
This is none of your bloody paperwork. Don't touch it. | 0:35:15 | 0:35:18 | |
If you start stopping me doing my job, that is a criminal offence | 0:35:18 | 0:35:22 | |
-and I will have you arrested for that. -Right. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
You tell him, tell him, whose is this? AP, isn't it? | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
While Mr Patel argues with the Sheriffs, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
their HQ has been in touch. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
The administrator has sent through documents | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
about the company name change and administration. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
But as Craig has found paperwork that seems to show | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
Alliance Paper & Tissue Ltd still taking orders, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:44 | |
HQ says the evidence isn't completely convincing. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
The office have told us to crack on. | 0:35:48 | 0:35:50 | |
It would appear that they changed their name the day that Tom was here | 0:35:50 | 0:35:53 | |
so in absence of the proof of the goods belonging to the third party, | 0:35:53 | 0:35:57 | |
our instructions are from the office to carry on | 0:35:57 | 0:36:00 | |
and start unplugging everything, just to push it that extra further. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:03 | |
Do you need the computers? Do you need to back them up or anything? | 0:36:03 | 0:36:06 | |
I've said to the girls. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:08 | |
You need to do that very quickly, | 0:36:10 | 0:36:11 | |
because we need to start unplugging them. | 0:36:11 | 0:36:14 | |
As Tom prepares to take possession of the company's computers, | 0:36:14 | 0:36:17 | |
Craig has used his detective skills | 0:36:17 | 0:36:20 | |
to get into one of the big locked warehouses. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
If you look on the keypad you can see which buttons are pretty worn. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
I let myself in and as soon as I got in, yeah, they were a bit upset. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
While arguments continue about who owns it, | 0:36:32 | 0:36:35 | |
Craig seizes the stock and machinery in the warehouse. | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
The problem we've got with these, you know, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
I'm not a paper tissue guy. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:44 | |
I use plenty of it to be fair, but... | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
Over in the office, Tom is seizing the office equipment. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
Interesting day at work, isn't it? | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
To keep up the pressure, | 0:37:01 | 0:37:02 | |
Craig organises the trucks with the office. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
Marc, I've got quite a large-scale removal on, | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
if you're available for it. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:12 | |
With the greatest respect, | 0:37:13 | 0:37:15 | |
the only way forward is payment at the moment. | 0:37:15 | 0:37:17 | |
I don't want to stop your business from trading, | 0:37:17 | 0:37:19 | |
but that's where we're at. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
You're talking at least 50%. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
At least 50%, which is at least £5,000. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
They won't entertain anything less than that. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:33 | |
Having taken stock of the Sheriffs' position, | 0:37:33 | 0:37:35 | |
Mr Patel has agreed to find some money, and make a payment. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
Craig discusses terms with the accountant. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
5,000 today and he needs to put his proposal in. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
OK. | 0:37:46 | 0:37:47 | |
Can I just borrow that calculator? | 0:37:47 | 0:37:49 | |
-THEY CHUCKLE -How much, about five grand? | 0:37:52 | 0:37:54 | |
One of the employees heads down to the local bank, | 0:37:55 | 0:37:58 | |
and makes a cash transfer for £5,000. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:02 | |
-Thank you very much, Mr Patel. -All right, no hard feelings. -Take care. | 0:38:02 | 0:38:05 | |
No problem. Bye-bye now. | 0:38:05 | 0:38:07 | |
They've dismantled everything here, now we've got to put it all back. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:10 | |
We've paid some money out, £5,000, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:13 | |
which we're going to claim back now and in the meantime, | 0:38:13 | 0:38:17 | |
they've earned their fee, really. | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
We'll resolve these issues behind the scenes | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
and I'm sure we'll get it back. And...yeah, we'll just move on. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:27 | |
The naming of the companies was confusing. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:32 | |
The original Alliance Paper & Tissue Ltd went into administration. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:36 | |
Shortly after, another company was given the same name, | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
Alliance Paper & Tissue Ltd at the same registered address. | 0:38:40 | 0:38:44 | |
Exactly which company owns the assets | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
and whether it was in administration the day of the Sheriffs' visit | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
is due to be dealt with in court at a future hearing. | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
Mr Patel told us he thought the Sheriffs had interfered | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
with his business unnecessarily, but even he seems to agree | 0:38:58 | 0:39:02 | |
they did their job well. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:04 | |
At the end of the day, they always win, that's what I say. | 0:39:04 | 0:39:08 | |
They're in the business to win, all the time. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
And they've done their job today. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:13 | |
The gentleman got a bit irate at one point | 0:39:13 | 0:39:15 | |
when it was going to removal stage. | 0:39:15 | 0:39:17 | |
But I think it's a good resolution, all round, to be fair. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
Apart from leaving with the gentleman's calculator, | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
which I did by accident! So we'll have to try and get that back | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
in the post to him. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:27 | |
The Sheriffs' work isn't all about collecting debts | 0:39:38 | 0:39:40 | |
from small businesses. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
We're High Court Enforcement Officers. | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
Sometimes they're tasked with taking on | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
some of the biggest corporate names in the UK. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
And this afternoon, Lawrence and Kev are on just such a case. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
We're on our way to Luton at the moment, to Thomson Airways. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
It's to do with a delayed flight and the total due | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
is £1,727.82. | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
This passenger's case - and soon to be thousands more like it - | 0:40:12 | 0:40:16 | |
have come about due to a recent European Court of Justice ruling. | 0:40:16 | 0:40:20 | |
If your flight is delayed for more than three hours | 0:40:20 | 0:40:23 | |
without an adequate reason why, you can demand compensation | 0:40:23 | 0:40:27 | |
from the airline at fault. It's opening the floodgates | 0:40:27 | 0:40:31 | |
for passengers to get back what they deserve. | 0:40:31 | 0:40:34 | |
-That's their logo, isn't it? Is it that top one? -I believe so, yeah. | 0:40:34 | 0:40:39 | |
Thomson is part of the TUI Travel Group, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:41 | |
which in 2012 made £490 million in operating profit. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:46 | |
Will they be able to rustle up the £1,700 they need | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
to pay off this debt? | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
Hello there, I'm looking for somebody from Thomson's Airways | 0:40:51 | 0:40:54 | |
who can deal with a High Court writ. | 0:40:54 | 0:40:56 | |
Reception goes off to find someone more senior to deal with the issue. | 0:40:56 | 0:41:00 | |
How will Thomson's big brass react to having two Enforcement Officers | 0:41:00 | 0:41:04 | |
on site, with a High Court writ in hand? | 0:41:04 | 0:41:07 | |
Hello there. Oh, you're from legal, are you? I'll show you some ID. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:11 | |
Right, pop in. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:13 | |
At this point, our cameraman is asked to leave the building. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:18 | |
The firm's legal team get looking into the case. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:20 | |
While they do that, Kev gets on with listing goods he can seize | 0:41:20 | 0:41:25 | |
and remove if necessary to pay off the debt. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
'I'm making an inventory of your goods because | 0:41:27 | 0:41:30 | |
'we're here to seize goods, so I'm seizing them at the moment. | 0:41:30 | 0:41:32 | |
'I'll write a list of inventory of all the goods. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
'Yeah, I'm not going to sit down for a minute, thanks.' | 0:41:35 | 0:41:39 | |
'It's basically flight delays, | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
'because a CCJ was issued which still hasn't been paid | 0:41:42 | 0:41:46 | |
'so he's used his rights to transfer it up to the High Court for enforcement purposes.' | 0:41:46 | 0:41:51 | |
Kev comes out to fill us in on what's going on inside. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
There's obviously lots and lots of office space in there. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
Hundreds of computers, desks, sofas, tables and such forth. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
Televisions all round the place. We'll take the full inventory | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
of the place and they're just sorting out payment at the moment. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
Faced with Lawrence and Kev and a High Court writ, | 0:42:10 | 0:42:13 | |
Thomson agree to pay, there and then, in full. | 0:42:13 | 0:42:16 | |
Lawrence and Kev emerge with the money in the bank | 0:42:17 | 0:42:20 | |
and a smile on their faces. | 0:42:20 | 0:42:22 | |
It was a good outcome in the end. | 0:42:22 | 0:42:23 | |
We got paid in full on a credit card...as we expected to, really. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:27 | |
It wasn't a vast amount of money, £1,700. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:31 | |
A company like Thomson's can easily afford that. | 0:42:31 | 0:42:35 | |
It's good news for the Sheriffs, but much more importantly, | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
for the passenger who brought the claim and who'll finally get | 0:42:38 | 0:42:41 | |
the money they're owed paid in full and in good time. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:45 | |
Thomson Airways told us | 0:42:46 | 0:42:47 | |
they would like to apologise to the customer for the delay in paying | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
the compensation awarded. | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
They said they operate a fair and thorough process to deal with | 0:42:53 | 0:42:56 | |
EU delay claims in line with the regulation. | 0:42:56 | 0:42:59 | |
They said on this occasion, an administration error | 0:42:59 | 0:43:02 | |
meant that the payment was not processed, | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
but that it had now been made. | 0:43:04 | 0:43:06 | |
They said they'd like to reassure customers that they are committed | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
to maintaining on-time performance across their flying programme. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:13 |