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Meet the sheriffs... | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
I'm a High Court enforcement officer. We're here to execute a High Court writ. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:07 | |
Their job is to get you your money back. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
It's an arrestable offence to stop me doing my job. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
If you've been ripped off and don't know where to turn... | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
-I'm not waiting. -I'm ordered to seize goods to clear this debt, | 0:00:16 | 0:00:19 | |
which would mean clearing this place out. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:21 | |
If you've been to court but still not been paid what you're owed... | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
Why don't you just tell me who you are? | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
This is an absolute crock, you need to pay this. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
..it's time to call the sheriffs. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
I've seized your car, sir. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:33 | |
Either let us in the door, or we'll go by the window. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa... | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
They're enforcement officers of the High Court | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
and the law says they're on your side. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:43 | |
I've just collected 42 grand. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:44 | |
Coming up... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:49 | |
Open the door. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
In East London, a building owned by a charity has been occupied by squatters. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:55 | |
Can the sheriffs get the squatters out | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
and return the building to its owners? | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
-Enforcement officers! -You have an hour to get your stuff together. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:04 | |
Just keep your dog under control. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:06 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:01:06 | 0:01:07 | |
Ian Allen created some much-loved children's TV characters. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:12 | |
Welcome to Button Moon! | 0:01:12 | 0:01:14 | |
He was shocked when someone stole and sold his designs. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:18 | |
Someone coming along and altering your creation. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
I was heartbroken... | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
Angry... | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
Will the sheriffs get Ian the money he's owed. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
I have been sent here today with a High Court writ to seize goods. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
And Graeme Maznik's motor had seriously faulty locks. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:35 | |
I couldn't even take the key out of the ignition barrel. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
At the time I was very angry. | 0:01:38 | 0:01:39 | |
Graeme had to shell out for the repair. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:42 | |
Morning... | 0:01:42 | 0:01:43 | |
Can sheriffs Lawrence and Kev get him his money back? | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
We are ordered here today to seize goods and the only way to prevent further action is to pay in full. | 0:01:46 | 0:01:50 | |
The sheriffs are most often seen seizing goods | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
on behalf of the High Court so that claimants | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
get the money they're due. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
But they also enforce other High Court writs. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
Today, they're in Hackney, East London, | 0:02:06 | 0:02:08 | |
where a property belonging to the Hackney Joint Estate Charity | 0:02:08 | 0:02:12 | |
has been occupied by squatters. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
The charity rents out buildings to finance its work with | 0:02:15 | 0:02:18 | |
disadvantaged people in the borough | 0:02:18 | 0:02:20 | |
but, with the squatters in place, there's no income. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:24 | |
That is your hat, I believe. You must have mine. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
Enforcement officers, Lawrence Grix and Kev McNally, | 0:02:26 | 0:02:29 | |
are part of a team who must get the squatters out. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
And they're being a bit quieter than usual. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
It's just coming up for six in the morning. We're in Hackney. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
We're at the rendezvous point, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:40 | |
we're just waiting for some of the others to arrive. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
We'll be moving in... | 0:02:43 | 0:02:45 | |
..covertly. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
We go in nice and early, hopefully we'll catch them in bed. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
They won't have time to respond, we'll catch them unawares. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
We just get copies of the writ, just to hand out, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
if any of the squatters want to see, while we're there, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
what the legal paperwork is and we've got these to show them. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
So there is no dispute about anything. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:03 | |
Lawrence and Kev have done this sort of thing before. | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
They're not normally aggressive. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
You do get aggressive ones | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
but there's all sorts of hazards you've got to be aware of. | 0:03:12 | 0:03:15 | |
You've got to be aware of needles, contamination, electricity, water. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:19 | |
You want to just try and keep the situation quite calm. | 0:03:19 | 0:03:22 | |
Once one of them starts getting quite lairy, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
it can generally have a knock-on effect and gains a bit of momentum. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:29 | |
No, we try and keep it all peaceful enough. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:32 | |
If they don't want to go and want to be obstructive, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
then they will be forcefully thrown out. | 0:03:34 | 0:03:37 | |
For now, the team is sticking to the softly, softly approach. | 0:03:38 | 0:03:42 | |
Job one is to enter the building, | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
quietly, if possible. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:46 | |
We don't want to be shouting and hollering and making loads of noise. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:51 | |
You know, alert them to us, barricade themselves in, or anything. | 0:03:51 | 0:03:55 | |
The easiest way in, is the way they go in. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
That is always the easiest way. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:02 | |
I don't think we can get a crowbar in this. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:04 | |
Slip it in there. | 0:04:04 | 0:04:06 | |
They can't budge the lock, so they're going to force the door. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
WOOD CREAKS | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
As expected, the noise attracts attention. | 0:04:16 | 0:04:18 | |
Can you open the door, please? | 0:04:24 | 0:04:25 | |
Good morning. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:34 | |
One of the squatters has come down to open the door. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:37 | |
How many of you guys are in here? | 0:04:37 | 0:04:39 | |
Can you wake up your friends and tell them to start backing up, yeah. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:42 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:43 | |
I've got one guy in there, he's getting his stuff. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
He's all right, no problem at the moment. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
Just one of you in here? | 0:04:50 | 0:04:51 | |
OK, you need to pack your stuff up. We'll give you some time to pack. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
There's one in here, as well. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:56 | |
We'll give you a little bit of time to pack. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
You have about an hour to get your stuff together. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
-OK, one in there and one in there. -One here, as well. | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
There's four, in all. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
It was a bit of an effort getting in. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:08 | |
A solid, steel security door. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:11 | |
It was on the verge of giving in when the young lady came | 0:05:11 | 0:05:14 | |
and opened it. It does sound like they were expecting us. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
We'll give them an hour or so to get their stuff out now. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
The squatters have hacked into the electricity supply | 0:05:22 | 0:05:25 | |
and it's a serious risk. | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
You know, you don't want to get an electric shock. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:29 | |
-I go nowhere near this. -I don't know if it's been earthed here. It's all been jumped. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
You can see bare electrics everywhere. | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
Potentially, you do not know what is live, and what isn't. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
You don't touch anything, really. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
This is their gardening. | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
The home grown cannabis plants suggest that at least | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
some of the squatters have been here a while. | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
The priority is making sure they're all accounted for, | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
then getting them to pack up their things and move out. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
Is everyone packing? | 0:05:57 | 0:05:58 | |
There are four people on this floor | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
and they're packing their stuff up. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
-You've got an hour, mate. -I've told them. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:05 | |
The tall geezer is a bit out of it. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
He's fine but keep a bit of an eye on him, as well. | 0:06:08 | 0:06:11 | |
Everyone here, at the moment, is OK. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:12 | |
Just trying to keep it all on a level. | 0:06:12 | 0:06:15 | |
The eviction is going well | 0:06:15 | 0:06:18 | |
but this is only half the job. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
The writ includes the adjoining property, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
also occupied by squatters. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
Open the door! | 0:06:25 | 0:06:27 | |
They aren't co-operating and won't open the door. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
The sheriffs take action. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:33 | |
We will return to Hackney to see what happens | 0:06:38 | 0:06:41 | |
when the sheriffs get in. | 0:06:41 | 0:06:43 | |
DOG BARKS | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
On a bright, autumn morning, sheriffs Chris Pearson | 0:06:54 | 0:06:57 | |
and Steve Hockborn | 0:06:57 | 0:06:58 | |
are outside an industrial estate near the East coast. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
We're in Carnaby, East Yorkshire. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
Looking for a Mr Robert Redshaw on behalf of a Mr Ian Richard Allen, | 0:07:04 | 0:07:09 | |
for the amount of £8,968.79. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:12 | |
The person they're on their way to help is Ian Allen from Norfolk. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
You might not recognise him | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
but if you're one of the millions of children he has inspired | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
and entertained over the years, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
you'd certainly recognise one or two of his creations. | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
# Button Moon... # | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
This is Mr Spoon. | 0:07:30 | 0:07:32 | |
He's called Mr Spoon because he's got wooden spoons for his arms. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:37 | |
This is his wife, Mrs Spoon. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:39 | |
This is their daughter Tina Tea-Spoon | 0:07:39 | 0:07:41 | |
and this is their best friend, Eggbert. | 0:07:41 | 0:07:44 | |
Ian's a puppeteer and the man responsible for the all-time | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
children's classic series, Button Moon. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
# Button Moon... # | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
Oh, hello, Mr Spoon. Welcome to Button Moon! | 0:07:53 | 0:07:57 | |
I did lots of things like Playschool, Rainbow, Spitting Image | 0:07:57 | 0:08:02 | |
but my name to fame is Button Moon. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:06 | |
Climb into your spaceship. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:07 | |
Go on! | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
We can all get ready for the countdown. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Someone asked me, "How did you get the ideas?" | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
I was in Blackpool, looked up at the sky, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
saw a bright, yellow moon and thought, that could be a button. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:21 | |
Are you ready? | 0:08:22 | 0:08:24 | |
In each episode, Mr Spoon would travel to Button Moon | 0:08:25 | 0:08:28 | |
in his home-made rocket ship. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:30 | |
Five, four, three, two, one... | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
Blast off! | 0:08:33 | 0:08:34 | |
Whey! | 0:08:34 | 0:08:36 | |
And, of course, all of the characters on the show | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
were based on kitchen utensils. | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
At the time I didn't realise it was going to be such a hit. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:47 | |
It was a low-budget TV series. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
# Button Moon... # | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Although still regularly repeated on TV around the world, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:57 | |
the last of its 91 episodes was made in 1988. | 0:08:57 | 0:09:01 | |
Since then, people have regularly approached Ian about ways | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
of capitalising on its success. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
Among them was Robert Redshaw, | 0:09:06 | 0:09:09 | |
who runs a TV and film merchandise company near Bridlington. | 0:09:09 | 0:09:13 | |
I said, "No" to Mr Redshaw | 0:09:13 | 0:09:14 | |
because I've already got Button Moon T-shirts out there | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
and if I do any work with you at all, | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
I've got to approve the designs for the mugs | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
and I didn't hear anything. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:28 | |
So there was no-one more shocked when, some months later, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:33 | |
his attention was drawn to a range of Button Moon-inspired merchandise | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
being sold by Mr Redshaw's company. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
I switched on the computer, | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
I saw they were being sold all over the Internet. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
I contacted Trading Standards. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
They were very sympathetic and said, "Yes, it's truly Button Moon." | 0:09:47 | 0:09:51 | |
I was heartbroken, angry. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
Someone coming along and altering your creation | 0:09:55 | 0:09:59 | |
for their own means, was just awful. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
Ian contacted Mr Redshaw who claimed the merchandise | 0:10:02 | 0:10:06 | |
was just a parody, but this didn't satisfy Ian. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
He went back to Trading Standards, who told Mr Redshaw | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
to stop selling it and destroy what stock he still had. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
When he was told by Trading Standards to destroy them, he sold them on. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:22 | |
I found one ad on Amazon, another ad on eBay. | 0:10:22 | 0:10:27 | |
He decided to take legal action to protect his creations | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
and stop the sale of the merchandise. The case went to court. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
It's a painful experience to have to go to court. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:38 | |
I can't say I enjoyed it. I was very scared. Stage fright. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:42 | |
It's theatre, court. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:45 | |
I didn't have this script. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:46 | |
It was a new experience and I don't want to have to go through it again. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:50 | |
Robert Redshaw contested the case, maintaining it was | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
a parody of the brand and not infringing Ian's copyright. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
The judge disagreed and was unimpressed by Mr Redshaw's failure | 0:10:57 | 0:11:01 | |
to prove how much money he had made from the merchandise. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
You just can't come along and take someone's creation and use it. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:09 | |
It is stealing. | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
The judge agreed it was a clear infringement | 0:11:13 | 0:11:16 | |
and awarded Ian the judgement, | 0:11:16 | 0:11:18 | |
ordering Mr Redshaw to pay him £7,158.12. | 0:11:18 | 0:11:24 | |
Hurray! | 0:11:24 | 0:11:26 | |
However, despite this order, Ian still hasn't been paid. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:30 | |
He's now had to bring in some other stars of TV | 0:11:30 | 0:11:33 | |
to help get him what's rightfully his. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:35 | |
In East Yorkshire, Chris and Steve are paying a surprise visit | 0:11:42 | 0:11:45 | |
to the man who produced the offending merchandise, | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
Robert Redshaw. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:49 | |
-Redshaw House. -It's not really a lot of help. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:52 | |
In Button Moon, Mr Spoon went to the moon in a baked bean can rocket. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
Equipped only with a van, Chris and Steve aren't doing quite as well, | 0:11:57 | 0:12:02 | |
failing to find Mr Redshaw's business. | 0:12:02 | 0:12:05 | |
This is where we went before. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
The trouble is, all of the units on the estate look the same. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:11 | |
Honestly, mate, it could be anything around here. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
We could be driving around all day, to be honest. | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
I'll tell you what, we'll pull in here. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:20 | |
I'll run in and see if I can find out. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:22 | |
Even the locals don't seem aware of Mr Redshaw. | 0:12:22 | 0:12:25 | |
I'm looking for a Robert Redshaw, Redshaw House? | 0:12:25 | 0:12:28 | |
-No idea. -Thanks for your time, anyway. Cheers, buddy. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:31 | |
That postcode covers most of the trading estate. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:34 | |
Nobody seems to know where it is. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:38 | |
Steve's gone to the bakery over there. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:40 | |
He's either getting some information, | 0:12:40 | 0:12:42 | |
or he's eating them out of house and home! | 0:12:42 | 0:12:45 | |
Returning, baked potato free, Steve instead has some hot information. | 0:12:45 | 0:12:50 | |
Down here on the right it's called Kapow Gifts, or something. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:53 | |
A few more minutes driving around and it's starting | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
to get frustrating. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
She just said it's on this side. | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
-So you've verified it's on the trading estate, then? -Yeah, it is. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
Why didn't you get an exact place to where it was when you asked? | 0:13:03 | 0:13:06 | |
You'll have to ask her again. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:07 | |
Say, "Sorry, I'm that stupid I didn't get all the information last time I came in." | 0:13:07 | 0:13:11 | |
What are you stopping for? | 0:13:11 | 0:13:13 | |
Because I'm going to have to do what you didn't do. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
Right, let me out. | 0:13:16 | 0:13:17 | |
I'll go and have a walk. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:22 | |
We'll just have to wait and see what he comes up with. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
As Steve heads off, | 0:13:26 | 0:13:28 | |
the location of Kapow Gifts hits Chris between the eyes. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:32 | |
There it is! Redshaw House. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:36 | |
There you go, we'll just leave him. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:40 | |
Where's he going? | 0:13:42 | 0:13:44 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:13:44 | 0:13:45 | |
I'm talking to Mr Redshaw, can you get down here. | 0:13:45 | 0:13:47 | |
I'm here now. | 0:13:47 | 0:13:48 | |
Right... | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
Not only has Steve found Mr Redshaw, | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
he's got himself inside his premises | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
and once a sheriff is inside your commercial premises, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
by law, you can't get him out. | 0:14:00 | 0:14:02 | |
OK, it's to do with Mr Ian Richard Allen. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
-Yeah, I thought it might be. -You know what it's about? | 0:14:05 | 0:14:08 | |
-I've e-mailed him countless times. -Right... | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
-"Can't you send me an invoice on where to send the money." -Right. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:14 | |
What we need to do, I've been sent today with a High Court writ | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
to seize goods to clear the debt. | 0:14:17 | 0:14:19 | |
I can show you the e-mail right now if you want to look at it. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
I've actually e-mailed him, "Where do you want the money?" | 0:14:22 | 0:14:24 | |
Can you pay it off in full, first of all? | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
Yeah, so long as it's now... | 0:14:27 | 0:14:28 | |
£8,968 in total. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:32 | |
-I've got a bit... I'd like to dispute that... -Right. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
-..extras that he's going to charge for you. -Absolutely. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
He just never asked me for the money. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
Far from disputing the case, | 0:14:40 | 0:14:41 | |
Mr Redshaw claims he has tried to pay Mr Allen the money. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:45 | |
But, it hasn't been paid and Mr Allen has gone to the High Court, | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
so Mr Redshaw's bill has gone up. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
That was your original bill with your judgement costs, | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
which I believe was around about what you said you had to pay him. | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
This is the interest accrued. This is the sheriffs' fees. | 0:14:57 | 0:15:01 | |
But, but... | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
On what basis... | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
-How can -I -dispute that. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
I can't give too much advice because I'm working on his behalf. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
Do you see? But, at the end of the day, if you have any grievances, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
you take it up with him. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
If you have any grievances with the court, you take it up with them. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
If you're in a position to pay it, the best thing to do is pay it | 0:15:18 | 0:15:20 | |
and take it up in your own time. Pretty much straight away next week. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:23 | |
-What's the procedure if I don't? -We will seize everything until we get proof of ownership. | 0:15:23 | 0:15:28 | |
That's the route. Hopefully we don't have to go down that route | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
but that's what we would have to go down. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:33 | |
And with two sheriffs on-site, and the prospect of his property | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
being seized and removed, Mr Redshaw agrees to pay. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:40 | |
I think he's going to pay by credit card, | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
take it up with whoever he needs to take it up with later. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
That's all we need to do, get the payment, get out of here. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
Steve heads in with the card machine. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:53 | |
But in remote East Yorkshire, | 0:15:53 | 0:15:55 | |
the card machine struggles to make a connection with the bank | 0:15:55 | 0:15:58 | |
so the payment is done by direct transfer into the account. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:02 | |
As Chris tidies up the paperwork, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:07 | |
Steve gets nostalgic about children's TV. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
Oh, yeah, I watched it all the time! | 0:16:09 | 0:16:11 | |
No... | 0:16:13 | 0:16:14 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:16:14 | 0:16:15 | |
I can remember it being on. I had a little girl at that time. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:19 | |
She's 25 now, 24, so she doesn't still watch it. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
With the debt paid, Mr Redshaw wants to put his side of the story. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:28 | |
I could understand why, it's his creation. It's his baby. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:32 | |
He describes it as his baby and his children being kidnapped. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
He's a bit melodramatic. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
I can understand what he's saying. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:38 | |
It's his main creation, I'm not aware of anything else he's created | 0:16:38 | 0:16:41 | |
that's taken off like that. It was a big show at the time. | 0:16:41 | 0:16:45 | |
But he still thinks it's a big thing, 30 years later, | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
and that we've made a massive amount of money out of it. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
That's not the case. We only made a few hundred mugs. | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
The licensing he would've got off that, the royalty, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
would have been 10%, which would only have been £100, or something. | 0:16:57 | 0:17:01 | |
It's totally disproportionate to what was awarded. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
It's a good result for the sheriffs | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
and for Button Moon creator, Ian Allen. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:09 | |
I've done a bank transfer and he's cleared the full lot off, which is a result. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:13 | |
And, finally, in the interests of justice, a decision must be made. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:18 | |
Who was responsible for the hour it took to find the address? | 0:17:18 | 0:17:22 | |
So, really, it's more Steve's fault than mine, to be honest, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:27 | |
as is everything that goes wrong! | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
No-one is more delighted at the outcome | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
than Button Moon creator, Ian Allen. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
And, a couple of his friends. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:37 | |
Well done. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
The sheriffs got the money. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:40 | |
Yay! | 0:17:40 | 0:17:42 | |
In Hackney, East London, Lawrence and Kev are part of a team evicting | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
squatters from two buildings owned by the Hackney Joint Estate Charity. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:59 | |
Good morning. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:01 | |
The squatters opened the door to the first property and are co-operating with the sheriffs. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:05 | |
Open the door! | 0:18:05 | 0:18:06 | |
But in the second building it's a different story. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:11 | |
Lawrence applies his boot and then it's the same routine as next door. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:26 | |
Good morning, enforcement officers! | 0:18:26 | 0:18:29 | |
Do you speak English? | 0:18:29 | 0:18:30 | |
You don't speak English. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:32 | |
You do speak English? | 0:18:32 | 0:18:33 | |
You understand, yeah? OK. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:35 | |
Pack your belongings and leave. | 0:18:35 | 0:18:36 | |
Which room's the dog in? | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
-We're enforcement officers. -We know that. We're coming out now. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
We will give you an hour to get your stuff together, yeah. | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
Just keep your dog under control. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:48 | |
There's the one woman in the room downstairs with the dog. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:51 | |
We'll give her some time if she keeps the dog under control. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
They know the position. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
They know there's a repossession and they know they're going. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
Erm... | 0:18:58 | 0:18:59 | |
So we'll just give a bit of time and they'll go peacefully. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:02 | |
We're finding an increasing number that are actually employed. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
The squatters are co-operating, but there's a lot of kit to shift. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
-Have you got everything you need there? -Yes. -Yeah? | 0:19:10 | 0:19:13 | |
We want them to go as peacefully as possible. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:16 | |
No aggravation. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:18 | |
No, you'll have to make everyone a cup of tea if you're doing that. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
-How many is there? -15. -No, you're all right. | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
In this building, too, Lawrence spots the tell-tale signs | 0:19:31 | 0:19:33 | |
of horticultural activity. | 0:19:33 | 0:19:36 | |
This is a little hydroponic cupboard | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
for growing a cannabis plant. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
There's quite few cannabis plants being grown around the place. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
So, obviously, illegal activity is going on. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
Definitely a bit funky. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:52 | |
They have got a lot of stuff. | 0:19:56 | 0:19:59 | |
This guy reckons he's been here a year. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
Unless he's going to get removal trucks in, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
he's going to be here all day, which we're not going to be around for. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
Many of the squatters are now outside the building | 0:20:07 | 0:20:09 | |
and even the dog has been evicted. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
-What's the dog's name? -Killer. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
The issue now is how to get rid of their stuff. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:20 | |
The rear forecourt is getting absolutely full. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:22 | |
Really they could do with removal lorries. | 0:20:22 | 0:20:25 | |
I don't know how they're going to get it away from here | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
but there's an awful lot of stuff going out. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
Some of the squatters have organised a truck. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
It's soon full. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:36 | |
Others opt for a less legal solution to moving out. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:40 | |
Yeah, there's been a little bit of a dispute at the moment | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
because the squatters have been going to the local supermarket, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
paying their £1 for their trolley, wheeling them back, filling them with stuff and taking them away. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:52 | |
The lady from the supermarket has come round demanding her | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
trolleys back. That's what they've been up. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:57 | |
Paying their £1 for their trolley and filling it up with stuff. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:02 | |
But what do the squatters themselves think? | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
They've given us time to get things out and, you know, that's awesome. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:17 | |
At the end of the day, we've had a good run, we're happy. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
We know you need the building back, to renovate. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
That's OK, that's how the process goes. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
It's not worth fighting for a building that'll be used. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
But it is for a building that's going to be left abandoned. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
What happens now? Standard procedure is, we get all our stuff to a safe place | 0:21:29 | 0:21:33 | |
and then we go find another building. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
Luckily, there's plenty around. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
The sheriffs believe there could have been over 25 squatters | 0:21:39 | 0:21:43 | |
in the two properties. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
We have to search every bit of it. You do get people hiding. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:49 | |
It's been known before. You come into the most grotty bit | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
and you find somebody hiding in a corner. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
Thinking they're going to get away with it and let their friends back in later on. | 0:21:54 | 0:21:58 | |
Now they've all gone and the building can be handed back. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
Yeah, they've have their time now. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
All the stuff's gone that they need. | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
We're going to shut up now and give our client a bit of a tour round, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
make sure he's happy with everything and get everything signed off | 0:22:11 | 0:22:15 | |
and we're done here. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:16 | |
The manager of the demolition firm | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
contracted to strip the property isn't impressed. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
It's really bad. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
There's graffiti everywhere, there's rubbish. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
The basement is full up to the ceiling. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:30 | |
It's dangerous. | 0:22:30 | 0:22:32 | |
You couldn't live in it, it's beyond belief, really. | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
It took us a little while to get in | 0:22:36 | 0:22:39 | |
because one of them was very secure, metal door. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:42 | |
Once we were in, they just left. | 0:22:42 | 0:22:45 | |
Locksmiths are securing the building to make sure it can't be reoccupied. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:50 | |
The owners say it will be redeveloped very soon | 0:22:50 | 0:22:53 | |
with rental income paying for the work of the charity. | 0:22:53 | 0:22:57 | |
It's been a textbook operation for the sheriffs. | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
Thanks, in part, to the co-operation of the now former squatters. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:05 | |
High Court enforcement officers, known as sheriffs, | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
have collected almost £200 million of unpaid court judgements | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
in the last three years. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
We're here to seize goods from the property. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:28 | |
Now we do at this stage have our locksmith if needs be. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
If you get a county court judgement of over £600, | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
you pay £60 to take it to the High Court | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
so that the sheriffs can enforce it. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
We're in enforcement officers, we've got a High Court writ. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
We've come to take 12,056.76 | 0:23:42 | 0:23:44 | |
If the sheriffs succeed, there's no more to pay. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:49 | |
If they don't, there's a £60 admin fee. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:52 | |
I'm not leaving, no, I'm an enforcement officer with a High Court writ. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
It's a breakfast time start for the sheriffs. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
Enforcement officers Lawrence and Kev are heading east out of London. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
We're on our way to Royston in Hertfordshire, at the moment. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
It's 8:20. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:21 | |
We're going to a car dealer, Ash Vehicle Sales. | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
It is a limited company. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:25 | |
We haven't got limited on our paperwork, we've got Ash Vehicle Sales. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
The man the sheriffs are on their way to help | 0:24:32 | 0:24:33 | |
is bright, young spark, Graeme Maznik. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:36 | |
He currently lives in Ryde on the Isle of Wight. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
I've been training for an electrician for about a year and a half now. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
I'm about halfway into a three-year course. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
Graeme's ambition is to become a fully qualified electrician. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:50 | |
He's been working and studying hard, as an apprentice, | 0:24:50 | 0:24:53 | |
to learn his trade. | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
As well as qualifications, he also needs a vehicle to get him from job to job. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:59 | |
It's essential to get my own transport to get myself into business, really. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:04 | |
I've saved up about 3,600 and had a part exchange on my old car. | 0:25:04 | 0:25:09 | |
Graeme spent over two months searching online | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
before finding Ash Vehicle Sales, a garage run by Ashley Smith, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
who was selling the ideal vehicle, a Mitsubishi L200. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
I looked through his website and it seemed pretty genuine. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
It quotes on there that I'm trustworthy salesman dealer | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
and he's always there to help. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:30 | |
Graeme made the journey to Cambridge to check out the vehicle. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:36 | |
He was thrilled with the Mitsubishi 4x4. | 0:25:36 | 0:25:39 | |
When I turned up he was a friendly guy. He gave me the chatter, as a car dealer would. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:44 | |
The vehicle already had the key in it. I took it for a test drive. I was happy with it. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
The guy took the cash and a couple of moments after that he left. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
Graeme was happy with the vehicle and having paid £5,050, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:57 | |
made the journey back home. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
He wasn't expecting what was to happen next. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
I went to lock it, I couldn't take the key out of the ignition barrel. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
Me and my dad were there for about half an hour. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
Pretty frustrated, and, at the time, was very angry. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:12 | |
With no way of removing the key from the ignition, | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
Graeme couldn't lock the doors to secure the vehicle, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:19 | |
rendering it unusable. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:20 | |
He desperately needed the car for work, | 0:26:20 | 0:26:23 | |
so contacted Ash Vehicle Sales many times to get the 4x4 fixed. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
Mr Smith wasn't interested. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
It was pretty wrong really because he sold me the car | 0:26:30 | 0:26:34 | |
and at no point tried to rectify the situation. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:36 | |
I mean, if I was an electrician, I went to someone's job | 0:26:36 | 0:26:39 | |
and they had a problem, I'd say, "Look, don't worry about it, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:42 | |
"I'll be around as soon as I can to fix it." | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
It's bang out of order. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:46 | |
Mr Smith didn't acknowledge any of Graeme's letters, or phone calls. | 0:26:46 | 0:26:51 | |
Graeme's only option was to get the vehicle fixed himself at a Mitsubishi garage. | 0:26:51 | 0:26:56 | |
The bill after we'd taken it to the Mitsubishi garage was £526. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
I sent Mr Smith the invoice for the work to be done. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
He couldn't have done the work because it had to be done by a Mitsubishi dealer. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
Ash Vehicle Sales didn't acknowledge the invoice, or respond. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:14 | |
Graeme had to borrow the money for the repairs from his dad. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
Graeme wasn't willing to stand for this and decided to take his case to court. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:24 | |
I thought the best way to take it to county court | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
and get the situation done, like, the legal way. | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
It's Mr Smith's responsibility to have the car | 0:27:30 | 0:27:33 | |
in a roadworthy condition. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:36 | |
Why should it be my responsibility to fix it | 0:27:36 | 0:27:38 | |
when he sold it to me as it is? | 0:27:38 | 0:27:42 | |
Mr Smith didn't attend court. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:45 | |
In his absence judgement was issued in Graeme's favour | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
and he was awarded £695.67. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:53 | |
Since the judgement, Graeme hasn't heard from Ash Vehicle Sales. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
Now he has one last hope... | 0:27:57 | 0:27:59 | |
..the sheriffs. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:01 | |
On their way to Royston, Lawrence is optimistic it that he will be | 0:28:09 | 0:28:12 | |
able to get Graeme his money. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:14 | |
If he's a bona fide car dealer, | 0:28:14 | 0:28:16 | |
they should have plenty of stock there. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
One car would probably cover that so I would hope we would find | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
sufficient assets to clear this quite easily. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
It is AVS? | 0:28:25 | 0:28:26 | |
-Ash Vehicle Services. -That's it, there. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:30 | |
Except we're Ash Vehicle Sales. | 0:28:30 | 0:28:32 | |
-We have been warned. -What have we been warned about? | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
-I don't know, satellite dishes? -Satellite dishes? | 0:28:35 | 0:28:39 | |
I always watch out for a satellite dish. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:41 | |
When they arrive at Ash Vehicles Sales, the gates are locked. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:45 | |
There isn't anyone to clock us just yet. | 0:28:45 | 0:28:47 | |
-Right, it's a bit. -It's on us. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:49 | |
Lawrence was hoping there would be assets | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
and some promising vehicles are parked outside. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:57 | |
He knows from bitter experience they'll be of no use | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
unless he can prove they are owned by the company. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:03 | |
Morning. | 0:29:03 | 0:29:05 | |
-I'm looking for Ash Vehicle Sales. -Yeah. -That yourself, is it? | 0:29:05 | 0:29:10 | |
Just show you some ID. | 0:29:11 | 0:29:12 | |
We've got a High Court writ to execute against Ash Vehicle Sales | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
on behalf of a Graeme Manzik. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:17 | |
We're ordered here today to seize goods to the value of £1640.95. | 0:29:17 | 0:29:23 | |
The only way to prevent further action is to pay in full. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
-Graeme Mansik? -Yeah. Sorry Maznik. M-AZ-N-I-K. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
-Do you know him? -Come in the office, I don't know. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
He has a writ against you. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
Ashley Smith, the owner of AVS, asks our camera to stay outside. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:48 | |
At first, he doesn't remember the case. | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
I've got a copy of the actual judgement | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
and it says that you didn't send a response. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:01 | |
Mr Smith says he's recently moved house | 0:30:01 | 0:30:04 | |
and that the paperwork must been delivered to his old address. | 0:30:04 | 0:30:07 | |
Lawrence isn't buying the story. | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
This is the address we've got. | 0:30:10 | 0:30:11 | |
I would imagine if he came here to deal with you, | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
then that's the address he would have put on it | 0:30:14 | 0:30:17 | |
and that's the address that all the paperwork would have come to. The simplest thing to do is pay it. | 0:30:17 | 0:30:21 | |
Lawrence points out that with a live writ | 0:30:23 | 0:30:25 | |
he has to either collect money, or assets, today. | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
He's gone through the county court, it's been transferred to the High Court | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
so that we've got a live writ and that's it. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
Mr Smith realises that his only option is to pay the money | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
today and he offers Lawrence a cheque. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
Don't take cheques. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
It's cleared funds, so credit card, debit card, cash, bank transfer... | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
He's going to pay on a card now and get this out of the way. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:50 | |
We're just going to list down some goods. | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
He's got this Porsche out the front here so we'll put that down on our paperwork. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:55 | |
Erm, he's going to pay anyway. No, it's all good. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
I'll write you out one of our receipts, yeah. | 0:30:58 | 0:31:02 | |
We'll leave you in peace. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
Ashley Smith has paid the sheriffs in full. | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
Now he wants to put his side of the case. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
His issue was he bought a vehicle, | 0:31:11 | 0:31:13 | |
a week later, he had a problem with the lock, | 0:31:13 | 0:31:16 | |
which he sent me a letter to say he'd already decided | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
to have it fixed without letting me know about it. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:23 | |
He referred it to a Small Claims Court and, erm, | 0:31:23 | 0:31:27 | |
it's gone on from there. | 0:31:27 | 0:31:30 | |
I've sent paperwork back to the court | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
for resolution and I haven't heard anything back | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
and then this is his why it has resulted like it has today. | 0:31:36 | 0:31:39 | |
£1,645.95... | 0:31:39 | 0:31:43 | |
I had no other option than to just to pay it. | 0:31:43 | 0:31:46 | |
It shouldn't have gone as far as it has today. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:48 | |
As I say, it's down to the court's fault, not mine. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
It's been another good result for the sheriffs | 0:31:54 | 0:31:56 | |
and for Mr Maznik, who will get his money back. | 0:31:56 | 0:31:59 | |
Even though they won't need to seize vehicles today, | 0:31:59 | 0:32:02 | |
Kev can't help taking a professional view of Mr Smith's Porsche. | 0:32:02 | 0:32:07 | |
'95 Boxster, 4,500, five grand? | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
Fairly quick, in-out, got the payment, onto the next job, | 0:32:09 | 0:32:13 | |
couldn't be better really for a car dealer. | 0:32:13 | 0:32:16 | |
Sheriffs have special powers to seize goods, | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
they can then sell at auction to settle a debt. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:35 | |
Often the threat of seizure is enough to make the debtor pay | 0:32:35 | 0:32:38 | |
but if the individual, or company, has no assets to seize, | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
it may leave the sheriffs powerless. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:44 | |
That's the challenge facing High Court enforcement officers, | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
Mark Newton and Tony Smith, as they head into Essex, | 0:32:49 | 0:32:52 | |
hoping to enforce a claim against a company with a somewhat confusing name. | 0:32:52 | 0:32:57 | |
We're going to Betterview Windows and Conservatories Kent Ltd | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
in Wickford, in Essex, | 0:33:00 | 0:33:03 | |
for the amount of £36,126.40. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:09 | |
Betterview Windows Kent Ltd is based in Essex | 0:33:09 | 0:33:13 | |
and the claim is being brought by former employee, David Steel, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:18 | |
who was made redundant after 17 years. | 0:33:18 | 0:33:20 | |
He rejected the company's redundancy offer | 0:33:20 | 0:33:23 | |
and the case went to court, where it was not contested. | 0:33:23 | 0:33:27 | |
Mr Steel was awarded £30,000 for unfair dismissal | 0:33:27 | 0:33:31 | |
and loss of earnings. | 0:33:31 | 0:33:33 | |
The company appealed and lost, | 0:33:33 | 0:33:36 | |
but the claimant has not received his money. | 0:33:36 | 0:33:39 | |
Can Tony and Mark get him paid? | 0:33:39 | 0:33:41 | |
Hiya. I'm after Betterview Windows and Conservatories. | 0:33:47 | 0:33:51 | |
We're from the sheriffs, | 0:33:51 | 0:33:53 | |
for Mr D K Steel. | 0:33:53 | 0:33:55 | |
I'll see if I can get someone to come out to you. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:01 | |
-Yeah, we'll wait here then. -Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:34:01 | 0:34:03 | |
Minutes later Tony and Mark are invited inside. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
One of Betterview's doors is shut on our camera. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
Then it's through more doors as they cross to another building | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
to meet the general manager. He doesn't want to be filmed. | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
Our cameraman is asked to leave the building. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:26 | |
The man they're meeting is Barry Noad. | 0:34:29 | 0:34:32 | |
He claims the company has no assets and is unable to pay. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:35 | |
You have no way of paying anything at all? All right. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:38 | |
He says that any assets on site are owned by his wife. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
If you can't afford to pay, we'll need to see proof | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
that the stuff is not yours. We need to see proof of that, then. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:49 | |
Mark asks for proof about who owns what. | 0:34:49 | 0:34:52 | |
Mr Noad heads off to get the paperwork. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:55 | |
Meanwhile, Tony and Mark list assets | 0:34:55 | 0:34:58 | |
in case there is anything they can seize. | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
Say he drives a Range Rover, which is probably one of these two. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
At the end of the day, it isn't going to be registered to the company, is it? | 0:35:04 | 0:35:07 | |
He's got a truck and some vans that are quite good, worth a bit of money. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
We don't know whether they're on finance, or belong to the company | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
but, as it stands at the moment, we have seized them on paper. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
We're just waiting for some documents to arrive now. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
The boss explains that the original company, Betterview Windows Essex | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
went into administration in 2008 | 0:35:28 | 0:35:30 | |
when the bank called in their loan. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
They kept trading through another company, Betterview Windows Kent. | 0:35:33 | 0:35:37 | |
All the assets of the Essex company, including the vans | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
the sheriffs seized, were bought personally by Mr Noad's wife. | 0:35:40 | 0:35:45 | |
Basically all the assets you and your wife personally own, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:49 | |
because you lent the money to the company. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:51 | |
This is bad news. | 0:35:51 | 0:35:53 | |
With no assets to seize, the sheriffs have no way of getting the £30,000. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:58 | |
Can Mark get anything for the unfairly dismissed David Steel? | 0:35:58 | 0:36:02 | |
This is quite a complicated case. | 0:36:02 | 0:36:04 | |
Mr Noad says he let five men go and two rejected the redundancy package. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:09 | |
One of those has since accepted a payment plan of £500 a month | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
but David Steel didn't, leaving him with nothing. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
What we're going to need to do is get an arrangement going | 0:36:16 | 0:36:20 | |
if there isn't an arrangement in place. | 0:36:20 | 0:36:23 | |
Mark tries to speak to the company accountant about putting | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
a plan in place, but he's not there today. | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
With no cash on the table, and no assets to seize, reluctantly Tony | 0:36:30 | 0:36:34 | |
and Mark depart with the promise the accountant will call within a week. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:38 | |
-Cheers! -See you later. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
Meanwhile, Mr Noad wants to put his point of view | 0:36:40 | 0:36:43 | |
and explains that he was ill when the case went to court. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:47 | |
I had a stroke and I made an agreement to pay £500 a month | 0:36:47 | 0:36:53 | |
and it was accepted, but David Steel wants his money in full | 0:36:53 | 0:36:56 | |
because I drive around in a reasonably nice car and I work | 0:36:56 | 0:37:00 | |
average 16 hour days and he said that we're very wealthy. | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
Unfortunately, that's not the case. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
Where does that leave David Steel? | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
Basically I haven't got any money | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
and I don't think the claimant's going to be happy with that | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
but, unfortunately, if that's what he's offering, | 0:37:14 | 0:37:17 | |
our hands are a bit tied because there's nothing more we can do. | 0:37:17 | 0:37:20 | |
If Mr Steel agrees, at £500 a month, | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
the debt will take five years to settle. | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
With nothing to seize, for once, the only powers | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
the sheriffs could exercise are their powers of persuasion. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
And, since we filmed, | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
David Steel did receive payments of £6,500 from Betterview Windows Kent. | 0:37:38 | 0:37:44 | |
However, since then the company has gone into liquidation | 0:37:44 | 0:37:48 | |
with Mr Steel now unlikely to get back the remaining £26,000 he's owed. | 0:37:48 | 0:37:54 | |
On a sunny afternoon in the north-west of England, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
enforcement officers Pete Spencer and Graham Biggins are in Blackpool. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:11 | |
They're heading to the offices of an advertising company, Storemedia Plc. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:16 | |
Having run into financial difficulties, | 0:38:16 | 0:38:19 | |
the company was taken to court for unpaid solicitors' fees. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
They didn't contest the case and judgement was issued for them to pay up. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
Pete's previously visited the office where | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
he has seized goods on paper with the threat of removing them unless | 0:38:29 | 0:38:33 | |
the company stuck to a payment plan they set up for the debt. | 0:38:33 | 0:38:36 | |
Unfortunately, for Storemedia, payments have ceased | 0:38:36 | 0:38:40 | |
so now Pete's back and, if the money isn't raised today, | 0:38:40 | 0:38:43 | |
goods will be going with the sheriffs. | 0:38:43 | 0:38:46 | |
-Hiya, Storemedia? Enforcement officer. -OK, no problem. -Thank you. | 0:38:56 | 0:39:00 | |
-You dealt with me last time, in the office. -Yeah. I'll see to it. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
The staff clearly remember Pete and the debt. | 0:39:03 | 0:39:07 | |
They take him into a private office to discuss the next step. | 0:39:07 | 0:39:10 | |
-Hiya, are you OK? We spoke last time, didn't we? -Yeah. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
It's the same case, unfortunately. | 0:39:13 | 0:39:16 | |
The payment plan's not been kept up to, or it's not been accepted, | 0:39:16 | 0:39:19 | |
I don't think by the claimant. Yeah, they've rejected the offer. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:24 | |
We've come for full payment today, | 0:39:24 | 0:39:26 | |
or to remove those goods that we seized last time. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
-Which goods are them? -All the Dell computers. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:32 | |
They did last time I came when I seized them. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:36 | |
So where've they gone to now, then, if they belong to somebody else? | 0:39:36 | 0:39:39 | |
OK. | 0:39:39 | 0:39:41 | |
At this point, our cameraman is asked to leave the building. | 0:39:43 | 0:39:46 | |
Pete, meanwhile, keeps going inside. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:49 | |
In particular, he's interested in the items | 0:39:49 | 0:39:51 | |
he's seized on his previous visits, mainly computer equipment. | 0:39:51 | 0:39:55 | |
They're technically the property of the court | 0:39:55 | 0:39:57 | |
and if Storemedia won't pay, they'll be leaving with Pete. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:01 | |
The Dell computers were the property of Storemedia last time. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
But the member of staff gives Pete some worrying news. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:08 | |
He says Storemedia has gone into administration | 0:40:08 | 0:40:12 | |
and the equipment in the office has been sold to another company. | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
Pete explains to the staff that as the business is not yet officially in administration, | 0:40:16 | 0:40:21 | |
the items he listed are technically the property of the High Court, | 0:40:21 | 0:40:25 | |
so they couldn't be sold to another company. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:29 | |
Pete lays down the options to the office staff. | 0:40:29 | 0:40:32 | |
Pay up, or the computers go. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
Storemedia plc, are they able to pay that amount? | 0:40:35 | 0:40:39 | |
Are they able to pay any amount off that figure? | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
The staff say they can't afford to pay the debt, | 0:40:42 | 0:40:44 | |
as Storemedia's bank account is now frozen. | 0:40:44 | 0:40:47 | |
We will be removing goods today. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
Seizing and removing goods is a last resort for the sheriffs | 0:40:50 | 0:40:54 | |
but with this company in administration, | 0:40:54 | 0:40:57 | |
and unable to pay anything, the sheriffs have no choice. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
Yeah, we've got a few items. | 0:41:02 | 0:41:04 | |
We're just going to start loading them up now. | 0:41:04 | 0:41:06 | |
We've got quite a few computers and bits and bats. | 0:41:06 | 0:41:08 | |
The scenario is at the moment, we're seized all the items from our other visit. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:13 | |
That's what we're removing today. There's 20 items in total. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
Dell towers, Dell monitors and some keyboards and a mouse | 0:41:16 | 0:41:21 | |
and a data card machine. | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
While Pete and Graham get on with the heavy lifting, | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
someone comes out of the office to tell us things from his point of view. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:30 | |
The company, Storemedia, is going to into administration | 0:41:30 | 0:41:33 | |
so, unfortunately, the bank account is frozen at the moment. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:36 | |
Even if we did have the available funds, | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
we wouldn't have the capability to pay it, either way. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
I have explained that to the gentleman but, | 0:41:41 | 0:41:43 | |
unfortunately when they've got a warrant... | 0:41:43 | 0:41:46 | |
Unfortunately, they're coming to seize goods so there's not a lot we can do about that. | 0:41:46 | 0:41:49 | |
Printing has gone up over the years | 0:41:49 | 0:41:51 | |
so when your bad debt goes up | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
from maybe eight, ten, 12% to nearer 20-25%, | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
it has a big impact on the cash flow | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
and the day-to-day running of the company. | 0:41:59 | 0:42:01 | |
It's no real fault of the directors. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:03 | |
It's no-fault of the staff. It's just down to the economy, really. | 0:42:03 | 0:42:06 | |
That won't be enough, there's £7,800 outstanding. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:12 | |
Unfortunately, the assets have got very little value really | 0:42:12 | 0:42:15 | |
but to do our job we're taking the assets of the company that was here. | 0:42:15 | 0:42:19 | |
-Is that everything at 20 items? -That's it. -Sound. | 0:42:19 | 0:42:23 | |
Get some paperwork signed and we'll be on our way. | 0:42:23 | 0:42:26 | |
Yeah, it went all right. | 0:42:26 | 0:42:28 | |
I don't think they're going to bring much money but it's better than nowt, I suppose. | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
The position to wind up the PLC company, | 0:42:32 | 0:42:34 | |
which is going through on Monday, in the High Court, anyway. | 0:42:34 | 0:42:37 | |
After next week, the company probably won't exist, anyway. | 0:42:37 | 0:42:40 | |
And, with that, Pete and Graham head off. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
Although they're some way short of the amount they were after, | 0:42:43 | 0:42:47 | |
Pete's persistence means they don't leave with nothing. | 0:42:47 | 0:42:51 | |
Once the equipment is sold on behalf of the administrators, | 0:42:51 | 0:42:54 | |
the out of pocket solicitors firm should get some of the money they're owed. | 0:42:54 | 0:42:59 |