Episode 6 The Sheriffs Are Coming


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If you're owed money but aren't getting paid,

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it's time to call the sheriffs.

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My name's Mr Grix, my colleague and I are Enforcement Agents.

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I'm here to issue a High Court writ.

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I've got to do what I'm instructed to by the courts.

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They're Enforcement Agents of the High Court.

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And if a court's ruled in your favour - they're on your side.

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-If the debtor doesn't want to pay...

-You currently owe £9,461.80.

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..the law says the sheriffs can get you what you're owed.

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If you don't come to the door, we have to remove

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the vehicle off the drive.

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You'll have a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction.

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-Whether it's a small company...

-Can I speak to the person in charge, please?

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..or a household name...

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We're here to see somebody from G4S.

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..if they owe you money, the sheriffs get it paid.

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I'm not going anywhere, you get him to come in here.

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We're not going to be waiting around like that. It needs to be done now.

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I just collected 42 grand.

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Coming up -

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Mandy Springer was sold a car with a dangerous flaw...

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This was the one where the wheel came off.

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My grandson and I definitely could have been killed that day.

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..but the dealership which sold it to her isn't keen

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to pay for the repairs.

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£1,140.62 pays us, gets her paid and we're gone.

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Er, no.

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A shop which sells mobility scooters owes a customer a refund.

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The sheriffs plan to get it, whatever it takes.

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The goods will be going,

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because there's no evidence that they belong to anybody else.

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It's 10am and Lawrence and Kev are in Windsor,

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on the trail of a second-hand car salesman with a debt.

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This morning, we are going to see a Mr Howard Bridgman,

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trading as Primavera Cars.

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He owes £1,140.

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This is expenses incurred.

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Four days after the purchase of a Land Rover Freelander

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and the wheel fell off it.

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Not ideal.

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No, it's not good to have a wheel fall off any vehicle, really.

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So, yeah, that's who we're after now. We're a couple of miles away.

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Lawrence and Kev are working on behalf of Mandy Springer.

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She was driving with her grandchild, Dante, in the car

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when the incident happened.

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She'd only just bought the Land Rover from a local dealer

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she'd found on the internet called Primavera Cars.

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The salesman seemed fairly helpful, he was quite a friendly fellow

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and he didn't seem to know very much about the car, actually.

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When I was asking him had the car been serviced? He said, "Oh, no."

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Nevertheless, it seemed to be what she was looking for.

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My husband and I looked over the car,

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we did pop the bonnet as well, we looked underneath for any

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kind of mysterious rusting

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and you know, it seemed sound to look at.

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The Land Rover had a new MOT and Mandy negotiated a discount

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to pay for a service she'd arrange later.

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Thinking she had a good deal, she paid £3,600 and drove it away.

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Only a few days later, disaster struck.

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I'd come off the motorway and as I pressed the brake, the car shook,

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I just about held it...

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..and you could hear

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something, like, it snapped.

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I was very fortunate that the guy behind me

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didn't actually smash into me.

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Another guy came out and was knocking on the window,

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shouting, "Your wheel's come off the car!"

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The wheel had come almost completely detached.

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And the car was stranded in the middle of the road.

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We're in two lanes of traffic because the car had slightly swerved

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into the other lane,

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so we could have been hit by any car coming down.

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I think my grandson and I definitely could have been killed that day.

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It wasn't safe to stay in the car,

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so Mandy took 22-month-old Dante onto the verge

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and called Primavera Cars.

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There was no footway to stand, so we were standing in brambles.

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I was trying to get help from the garage.

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In the end, it was kind of like I was just arguing

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and wasting my time. He refused to help me.

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He didn't care, he didn't care at all.

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So Mandy called the police who helped recover the car.

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But Primavera wouldn't take it back.

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They said no, they didn't want to help at all.

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Instead, it was delivered to a Land Rover specialist.

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When he examined it, Mandy was shocked by what he found.

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He gave me four of these, these are spacers.

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I didn't know anything about spacers until he told me.

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It's to make the wheels look bigger, make the car look bulkier,

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so maybe a boy racer might have stuff like this on their cars.

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The spacer sits between the hub and the wheel,

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and on this one, four of the five connecting bolts had failed.

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This was the one where the wheel came off,

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it was just by the grace of God that that one held on.

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Using wheel spacers isn't illegal in the UK, but should be declared

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to insurance companies as an after-market modification.

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Mandy feels she ought to have been warned.

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These should have been taken off the car prior to them selling it.

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They should have known about these.

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Mandy took Howard Bridgman to court.

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He didn't defend the case and was ordered to pay her back

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the money she spent on fixing the car and her costs.

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Bridgman offered to pay Mandy by bank transfer, but she was worried.

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I didn't trust their actions at all.

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There was no way I was going to give them my bank details.

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Wary of giving out her details, Mandy said she wanted a cheque,

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one of the other payment methods recommended by the court.

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But Bridgman refused.

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At one point, they called me eight times in one day,

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kept calling and calling and saying, "We want your bank details.

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"If you don't give us your bank details,

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"we're going to issue a counter action against you."

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They could have made payment at any time and they refused to do it.

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And then there were the text messages.

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"I'm still not happy about the way this has played out

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"and I would suggest you receive adequate training in car mechanics

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"before checking the vehicle over yourself in future instances."

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So I thought...

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..at the end of the day, you sold a car to somebody,

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it could have killed them.

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In fact, the law makes it clear that the dealer

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is responsible for the vehicle being fit for purpose.

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With the garage apparently unwilling to send her the cheque she wanted,

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Mandy was left with little choice.

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I had seen The Sheriff on telly before.

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Never thought in a million years that I'd have to use them.

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I was angry enough and I did want something to be done.

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I did want my money back.

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And so now Lawrence and Kev are on their way to get it for her.

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Since Mandy bought her car,

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Howard Bridgman has joined forces with a new business partner

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and they now trade as Primavera Cars Limited,

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operating from the same address as before.

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Howard Bridgman's partner is on site

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and he seems to know all about the case.

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Hello, there.

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Yeah, good, thank you.

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-Yeah.

-Yes.

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Right, well she's sent us out with a High Court writ.

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£1,140.62 pays us, gets her paid and we're gone.

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Lawrence isn't here to run messages around and it's now too late

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for the car dealer to make a payment directly to Mandy.

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Right, problem being she's now transferred it

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to the High Court for enforcement purposes.

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What you need to seek is independent legal advice, we're not here

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to advise you. We're here to obviously execute the writ

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on behalf of our claimant.

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The man doesn't want to pay the costs of the sheriffs' visit.

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But like it or not, the full amount is what he'll need to come up with.

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We hold the money for 14 days,

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it doesn't get disbursed straight away.

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So that gives you 14 days to get legal advice.

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Then if we're ordered to pay back the money,

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we pay back the money, simple as that.

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But at the moment, we've got a High Court writ

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that says this has got to be paid.

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The man doesn't want our camera in his office and we're asked to leave.

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He doesn't protest much longer however, and Kev soon comes out.

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Spoke to the guy. He knows all about it, to be fair.

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He's going to make payment now, so I've got the card machine,

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brought the van up and he's going to pay and off we go.

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The man does indeed pay

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and he invites our camera back in to tell his side of the story.

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He says he thought the accident might have happened

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because a friend of Mandy's had given the car a once over.

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She said that, "Two days ago, my brother in law, who's a mechanic,

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"was looking over the car", and all that and found some bits.

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Anyway, and then she's had the wheel came off two days after that.

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I said, "Well, sounds like something that he's probably done, then."

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He says Primavera offered to look at the car, but Mandy refused.

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They didn't defend the case because they didn't receive the paperwork.

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And he says, following the judgment, they tried to pay

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but the disagreements over the payment method was the problem.

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She wanted a cheque.

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We kept asking for... E-mails asking her, for her sort code

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and account number, so we could pay it.

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Cos we want evidence to show that we've done it.

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So we know it's been paid, so we can go to the court and let them know

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that it's all been done. Cos we don't want this going any further.

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Mandy was under no obligation to give out her details

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and cheque is one of the payment methods recommended by the courts.

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Refusing to send one has now cost Primavera Cars,

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though the man has come up with a way to make sure

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he gets his money's worth.

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We'll do a selfie.

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That was about as easy a job as you'll ever get, to be honest.

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The gentleman saw us, recognised us, invited us into the office,

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he knew exactly what case it was about.

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He's not overly happy that he's got our fees on top now, but he was half

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expecting a visit from us anyway

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and just paid us straightaway on a card. So...

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..all in all, another successful case for our client.

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Back in Reading, it's the news Mandy's been waiting for.

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It's been a really good result.

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I'm pleased that I did get in contact with the sheriffs cos

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they've helped take the stress out of a stressful situation.

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So, I'm really pleased.

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I just sincerely hope that doesn't happen again to somebody else.

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If you've been ripped off and the person or company responsible

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refuses to pay you back,

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the first step is to make a claim in the County Court.

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It's simple to do this online for a small fee,

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depending on the size of the claim.

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The court will review the evidence,

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and if it finds in your favour, the debtor will be ordered to pay up.

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If they don't, then for a further £66, the High Court will

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grant a writ, authorising the sheriffs to act on your behalf.

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If they're successful, you get all your money back.

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Lawrence and Kev are making a trip to the seaside.

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We are heading to East Wittering,

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down on the south coast.

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We're going to Non Stop Mobility Ltd for a total of £1,903.

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So it's a commercial premises we're going to, a shop.

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The writ's in favour of a customer, who bought a mobility scooter,

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and wasn't happy with it.

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I quote, "It was not fit for purpose."

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After being refused a refund, the customer took the company to court

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and won by default after it didn't enter a defence.

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The sheriffs are hopeful they'll be able to get their money back.

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I imagine there's going to be plenty of assets at this shop

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as long as the shop's still trading.

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We can fill this thing up with mobility scooters if need be.

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It shouldn't be too much of a problem, I don't think.

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But famous last words.

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Famous last words indeed,

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as this job's about to throw up some surprises.

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-There.

-Just there.

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The sheriffs head in.

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Inside, they find the company director's husband, Mr McWilliam.

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-We've got a High Court writ against Non Stop Mobility Ltd.

-Oh, yeah.

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They've set it aside?

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-Yeah.

-When was this?

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It's a familiar story.

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Mr McWilliam claims the judgment has been overturned.

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But when he starts getting out his paperwork,

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a different picture emerges.

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His appeal hasn't yet been heard.

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So the only thing which will stop the sheriffs enforcing

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the writ today is if he's been granted a stay of execution,

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which he thinks he has.

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Have you got a copy of the order staying the writ, because I haven't.

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Obviously, if it's stayed, then we'll leave you in peace.

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But we've got no evidence at the moment that it is.

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But unless we can see that, then we have to carry on.

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The shopkeeper should have a court order

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confirming what he's saying, but he can't seem to find it.

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And it's becoming increasingly obvious

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he hasn't understood the court process.

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There's two separate things. There's a set aside and there's a stay.

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And each incurs its own fee.

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How many application forms did you send?

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-One.

-And what did the application ask for, a set aside or a stay?

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They won't give you a stay without a set aside.

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The fact that you've got a hearing date,

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that is when your set aside hearing is.

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Well, if you've only paid one lot of £155...

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If Mr McWilliam had got a stay of execution, then

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he would have had to pay a second court fee.

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It sounds like he didn't.

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If you can't find the paperwork,

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-have you got the money to pay this today?

-No chance.

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Right, well, then we'll be removing goods.

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The man insists he does have a stay of execution,

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but his paperwork's in disarray.

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No, this was the original judgment.

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He's showing Lawrence various letters from the court...

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This is the notice that it's been transferred to Chichester.

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..but none are the right one.

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So, we're getting there, but you hadn't even opened that.

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Then amongst a pile of letters, it's Lawrence that strikes gold.

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Oh, here it is.

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It's the court order,

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confirming there's a hearing in a few weeks' time.

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But it's what it doesn't say that's crucial.

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There's nothing that says enforcement action

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is stayed in the interim.

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It's the smoking gun Lawrence needs.

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He can now press on to try to get the claimant her money back.

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It doesn't stay execution in the meantime,

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so the amount outstanding is £1,903.03,

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which needs to be paid immediately, or goods will be removed.

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-Is there no-one that could lend you the money?

-No.

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Right, well, goods will be removed to clear the debt then, sir.

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The sheriffs get to work deciding which items to take.

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In particular, they've got their eyes on the mobility scooters,

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which are the most valuable things in the shop.

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But now, faced with their removal, Mr McWilliam

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claims they're not the shop's.

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Right, have you got paperwork to that effect?

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You know, paperwork where you enter into a contract

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with people to sell goods on their behalf.

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Well, then, the goods will be going because there's no evidence that

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they belong to anybody else.

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But just when it looks like this job's only going one way,

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events take a surprising turn.

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Mr McWilliam has phoned the courts,

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and is asking them to intervene on his behalf.

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He appears to have found a sympathetic ear

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and hands the phone to Lawrence.

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What I've said to the gentleman,

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he's obviously applied for a set aside because he's got

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the hearing date, but he hasn't applied for a stay in the interim.

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I've got a truck on the way to remove the contents of the shop.

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He should have applied for a stay. He hasn't, he hasn't got one,

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so the writ is live and we're here to execute it today.

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But the woman at the court wants to double-check.

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She's gone.

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Well, she's going to go and speak to the judge.

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A few minutes later, she rings back.

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PHONE RINGS

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And it's just what Lawrence had feared.

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I need a copy of that revised order e-mailing to me, please.

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A judge has revised the court order and even though he hasn't

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paid for it, Mr McWilliam has now been granted a stay of execution.

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As it's the sheriff's job to carry out the court's wishes,

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they have to leave empty-handed.

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But later in the programme, we'll find out what happens

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when they're back two months later.

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Sheriff Ken Warby is in Dunstable, near Luton,

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on his way to a trading estate.

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We're going to visit a large furniture store, SCS,

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the original debt is just over £2,000.

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Ken's attending on behalf of a customer who bought

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a recliner sofa, but the leather finish began to peel off.

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When she asked the store for her money back,

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she was instead offered an alternative sofa at a reduced price.

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She wasn't happy, and despite the Citizens' Advice Bureau

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intervening on her behalf, they couldn't come to an agreement.

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So she took SCS to court

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and when they didn't offer a defence,

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was awarded a default judgment.

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Ken's not expecting them to remember.

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I'll give them enough time to try

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and find out exactly who the claimant is, chances are they'll

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need to speak to the head office

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because this is just one of their branches.

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But given the stock he knows will be on site,

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he's not going to take no for an answer.

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They'd have more than enough assets to cover the debt here,

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pick one of about 30 or 40 three-piece-suites if you like.

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Sometimes, Sheriffs go direct to the company's head office,

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but they're entitled to enforce anywhere the debtor has assets.

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This is one of a dozen or so stores they've got up and down the country.

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However, the notice of enforcement would have come to this address.

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It's the address on the writ, so Ken heads in.

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SCS, I'd like to speak to the person in charge. My name's Mr Warby.

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It doesn't take the man long

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to realise he's not about to make a sale.

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We're asked to leave while Ken starts the process

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of getting through to someone with the power to pay up.

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This is as I thought it would be, big company,

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I've just spoken to the store manager,

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so he's now contacting his head office.

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He's going to fax over a copy of the actual

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writ of control, so it's just a question of waiting at the moment.

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There's only going to be one outcome,

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I want the money for my client. That's it.

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With nothing else he can do, Ken has a quick sit down

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and his thoughts turn momentarily to his own living room.

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The sofa's really nice, actually, it reclines a treat.

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The one I'm looking for really is on a button, electric, on a button,

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if I can get one like that.

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I'm not sure I'd get a discount here, somehow.

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Finally, however, the manager is back

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and an hour and a half after he arrived, Ken's done.

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Head office are going to pay,

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a control goods agreement has been signed, and yeah, successful job.

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The customer's finally got her money back.

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SCS might be a few thousand down on the day,

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but after Ken spent the morning trying out every sofa in the shop,

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they might have a new customer to make up for it.

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Grey one was rather nice,

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so I did say to them next time I come in,

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if I'm not holding my clipboard, maybe we can do some business.

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SCS told us -

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Earlier, Lawrence and Kev visited a shop

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called Non Stop Mobility in East Wittering.

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The sheriffs had to walk away empty-handed after a judge

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granted the shop a last-minute stay of execution

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to allow an appeal to take place.

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Now two months later,

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Lawrence and Kev are heading to the seaside town once again.

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He's had his hearing. The case has been thrown out,

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so we're on our way back here now

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and going to get payment. Well, we're hoping to get payment.

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But the sheriffs aren't banking on it being that simple.

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Last time the shopkeeper said

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he didn't have the money

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and now with extra fees,

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the bill's gone up.

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Best case scenario, he's expecting us and he's got the money

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sitting there waiting for us, but I shouldn't think so.

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He's going to know we're going to be back.

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Hello?

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At first the shop looks to be unattended.

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But then Mr McWilliam emerges from the back.

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-Oh, hello.

-Hello again, sir.

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You lost your appeal, didn't you? So now the full total is due.

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We're here today to take control of goods to the value of £3,268.36.

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Were you not aware you lost?

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This time he asks our cameraman to leave.

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He tells Lawrence he thought he'd won his case.

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He gets out some paperwork from the court, which he says will

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prove it, but it's a move that spectacularly backfires.

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He's saying he doesn't know anything about it.

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And then produces a letter that is an order saying

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that his case has been dismissed

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and he also has got an extra £1,500

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on top of the judgment debt.

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So he's not best pleased about that.

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The sheriffs hadn't been told about the additional costs

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awarded by the court.

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Now they've been added, the shop owes well over £4,500.

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And Mr McWilliam isn't about to settle up.

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He's saying he hasn't got any money to pay,

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the same as he was last time, and to be honest, I don't doubt him.

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His wife's got no money, he's got no money.

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So the only thing we've got of value really are the scooters.

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I think there's nine scooters in total.

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He's saying he's signed a letter saying that his mate owns them,

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but it's literally, just a bit of paper.

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So we've decided we're going to take these scooters,

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cos there's no other way we're going to get paid here at all.

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In fact, it's not just the scooters that will be going.

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To get the claimant her money back,

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they're going to have to pretty much clear out the shop.

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Lawrence has begun listing the goods one by one.

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And Kev reckons he's rather enjoying it.

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He's got a bit of a glint in his eye

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looking at some of these scooters,

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There's a sort of wide scooter that he's got his eye on, I think.

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He's sort of coming to that sort of age.

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Don't tell him that, though.

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But Lawrence shouldn't get carried away too quickly

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as Mr McWilliam has again put in a call to the local court

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in a bid to stop the sheriffs in their tracks.

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They've advised him to fill in some different form

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that she's going to submit to the judge.

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And in the meantime, the atmosphere inside the shop is heating up

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as a man has arrived with a large Alsatian dog.

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It turns out he's got some sort of stake in this business,

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so he's got money invested in it.

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I think he's the guy that owns the scooters as well

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or claims to own the scooters.

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But I think he's got actual more investment than just that.

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He sort of bombed in here with his Alsatian,

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telling us we're not going to do this and that and what have you.

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But it's going to take more than a large dog to put

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the sheriffs off and the man soon leaves.

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Meanwhile, Mr McWilliam has heard back from his latest

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appeal to the courts

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and this time, he hasn't been so lucky.

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Surprisingly enough, the judge has seen it already

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but dismissed everything.

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So that avenue for him has gone now.

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The entire contents of the shop are going to be removed.

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There's three scooters, I think, that we've seen paperwork for

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to show us that they don't belong to this Limited Company.

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The rest of it's going to be going and the truck is on its way.

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It's obvious the business is struggling,

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and emptying the shop isn't ideal for anyone.

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So Lawrence and Kev do make one last-ditch attempt to get the man

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to make some kind of payment,

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but it doesn't have quite the reaction they'd hoped for.

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We basically said if he could get two and half grand together, then

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we could leave his stuff here and put an arrangement in place for him.

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But he's not going for it, can't get any funds together, so he's gone.

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He's given us the keys to the shop and he's off, left us to it.

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If that's what he wants to do, it's up to him.

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The truck pulls up outside and Lawrence and Kev start loading.

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That's going to be the first one.

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What's the best way to take them?

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Cos we don't want them going down those steps.

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There's only one thing for it.

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After all, Lawrence is at home on anything with four wheels

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even if it only goes 5mph.

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I do have some knowledge of mobility scooters.

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My mother got through a few in her latter years, God rest her.

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Managed to fit a few in the back of my van

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when they'd broken down and I had to go and collect her.

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She used to run out of batteries.

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Kev, meanwhile, is wrestling with the complexity of the machines.

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What's going on here? What's he done to this one? Has he broken this one?

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This one's got something wrong with it, Lawrence.

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Only Lawrence doesn't have the same problem.

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It's very slow, but I'll get there.

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Might have to push a bit.

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As for Kev,

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-he's still struggling...

-It's not neutral. What am I not doing right?

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..and is ultimately beaten.

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This one, Lawrence, is broken.

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What have you done with it?

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-It's just broke.

-It's not broken.

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You muppet. What's the matter with you?

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They fill up the van as much as they can

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and though it probably won't be enough to cover the £4,500

0:27:450:27:49

the shop owes, every bit helps.

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Mobility stuff has got a value.

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There's a few bits in there that are worth a reasonable amount of money,

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but most of it's second-hand.

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It'll have some value to it.

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And that means that the customer who took the shop to court

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will get at least some of their money back.

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