Episode 8 The Sheriffs Are Coming


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If you're owed money, but aren't getting paid, it's time to call the sheriffs.

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My name's Mr Grix. My colleague and I are enforcement agents.

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I'm here to issue a High Court writ.

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I've got to do what I'm instructed to by the courts.

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They're enforcement agents of the High Court,

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and if a court's ruled in your favour, they're on your side.

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If the debtor doesn't want to pay...

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You currently owe £9,461.80.

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..the law says the sheriffs can get you what you're owed.

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If you don't come to the door,

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we have to remove the vehicle off the drive.

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You'll have a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction.

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-Whether it's a small company...

-Can I speak to the person in charge?

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..or a household name...

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We're here to see somebody from G4S.

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..if they owe you money, the sheriffs get it paid.

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I'm not going anywhere. Get him to come in here.

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We're not going to be waiting around. It needs to be done now.

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I just collected 42 grand.

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Coming up, David Goddard was sold a family car

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with more faults than features.

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Coil springs at the back were gone,

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the exhaust manifold nuts were missing,

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so that was leaking, um...gases.

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Can Lawrence and Kev get his money back?

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Is the owner about?

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The only way to prevent further action today is to pay in full.

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A care provider which owes thousands of pounds in unpaid wages

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doesn't want the sheriffs in its office.

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We'll come and have a look because obviously...

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-We can, sir.

-We can.

-We have a legal right to do so.

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His attitude was that we're going to leave some letters and walk away, but we don't.

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Sheriff Ken Warby is playing the waiting game at the Post Office HQ.

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I'm starting to lose my patience now.

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I'm just going to dig my heels in and insist on full payment.

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If they don't, I'm just going to march around their offices,

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list their items with a view to remove their goods.

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It's a bright spring morning

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and Lawrence and Kev are in South London

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on the trail of a car dealership which owes a debt to their client.

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What is it, 11.30 in the morning?

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We are in South Norwood, South London.

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We are going to Prestige Car Sales.

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They owe £3,958.

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Prestige Car Sales of South Norwood,

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not to be confused with any other company of a similar name,

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was taken to court by painter and decorator David Goddard.

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His dealings with the business began

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when he was looking for a family-sized car for his wife.

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I have actually got about 13 grandchildren

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and six great-grandchildren.

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And my wife takes them, especially in the summer holidays,

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takes them down, we've got a caravan in Selsey Bill.

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So, it was always ideal to have a bigger car

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to carry the children around.

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They hadn't been looking for long

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before they found a car which seemed to fit the bill.

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My wife looked through the internet and found a Vauxhall Zafira,

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um...at Prestige Cars of South Norwood.

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So they went to have a look

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and took the car for a test-drive.

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We'd taken it out on the Saturday and it sounded quite nice.

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It was fine. The MOT was only 3-4 weeks old, the MOT.

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And unfortunately, I left my bag there, in the back of the car,

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after test-driving the vehicle.

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Um...and when we got home, my wife said, "Well, that's an omen.

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"You know, that car must be for me."

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So, they bought it for £2,290.

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But the problems began immediately.

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The next day, there was a puncture,

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so we put a new tyre on the vehicle.

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Um...then I said, "Well, you'd best go down to the tyre place

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"and get the tyres checked."

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Um...and it needed another two tyres.

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Um...and this is only two days after we bought the vehicle.

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And that was just the start.

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It was only a matter of days

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before it started misfiring about two cylinders.

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It started to rock all over, it was jumping all over the place,

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with misfiring, so on and so forth.

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And then, finally, it just gave up the ghost, basically.

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So we had to abandon the vehicle and get it back home.

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David called up Prestige Car Sales

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to report that the car had broken down.

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He said, "Well, can you get the vehicle to us?"

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I said, "No, we can't really because it's immobile."

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Instead, they agreed he'd take it to a local garage.

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Their inspection revealed a plethora of problems.

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The coil springs at the back were gone,

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the exhaust, um...manifold nuts were missing, so that was leaking gases.

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He said, "If I was you," he said, "I've got it running for you,

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"but you shouldn't really spend any more money," he said,

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"because the misfiring's still there

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"and diagnostically, it's telling me that it could be the engine,

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"it could be the gearbox or it could be a sensor."

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I mean, what do you do? Do you replace the three?

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It could have been anything up to about £2,000-£3,000.

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It was very, very frustrating that they'd sent the vehicle out

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in that sort of condition after me telling them

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and explaining to them what the vehicle was going to be used for.

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David spent £600 fixing just enough to get the car back on the road

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and contacted Prestige Car Sales about the remaining problems.

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He said, "Well, bring the vehicle back", he said,

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"and we'll sort it out for you."

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So, David returned the car to the dealers.

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But while he waited for it be repaired, he took a closer look

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at the service history documents which he still had.

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He found a cylinder head had previously been replaced

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and the car had experienced recurring issues

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with the engine misfiring.

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I said to my wife, I said, "Look,"

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I said, "this car isn't any good."

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I said, "It's just not fit for purpose, basically."

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David decided he no longer wanted it

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and asked Prestige Car Sales to keep the car and give him a refund.

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They told him to put it writing, so he did.

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I just said I'd forgo the £600 and £200 I spent on tyres,

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just pay me that, I think, £2,290.

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I said, "All I want is my money back, basically,

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"so we can get another vehicle."

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Um...no reply. Nothing. Nothing at all.

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I couldn't believe that someone could think that they could

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just take £2,000-plus off somebody, a working person,

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and seem to think they'd forget all about it.

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David took Prestige Car Sales to court.

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They didn't defend the case, so he won a default judgment

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for the full cost of the car

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and the repairs he'd made at his own expense.

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They still haven't paid.

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So, now David's put the sheriffs on the case.

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It's a necessity and it's got to be done.

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Otherwise, um...I don't know,

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I've no other way of getting the money back, anyway.

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In South London, Lawrence and Kev

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are about to pay Prestige Car Sales a visit.

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Hoping the dealers are still here, for a start.

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Hoping they've got some assets,

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some cars worth some value.

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As they approach, it appears

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the garage is tucked away behind the main high street.

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They head in to make their introductions.

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Hello, mate.

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-Are you the owner, by any chance?

-No, mate.

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-Is the owner about?

-Sorry?

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Is the owner about?

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My colleague and I are enforcement agents.

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We've got a High Court writ against Prestige Car Sales.

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We're ordered out by the High Court

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to take control of goods to be sold at auction and clear the debt.

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Sorry, are you the owner, are you?

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Sorry, he just said you weren't here, so...

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I'll show you some ID, my name's Mr Grix.

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The boss is here after all.

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Now Lawrence has to explain the whole thing all over again.

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We're ordered out by the High Court

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to take control of goods to the value of £3,958.29.

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Those goods can be sold at auction to clear the debt.

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The boss leads them into the back.

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The only way to prevent further action today is to pay in full.

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The garage extends behind the row of shops

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and is actually much larger than it appeared from the street.

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But we don't get to admire the stock for long.

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-We'll wait outside.

-All right.

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Our camera is sent outside.

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Indoors, Lawrence explains that if the owner

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doesn't come up with the nearly £4,000 the court demands,

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then he'll have no choice but to leave

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with at least one of Prestige Car Sales' vehicles.

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The boss isn't happy

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and says he's applied to get the judgment set aside,

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but he doesn't yet even have a court date.

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He knows all about it. He's actually got the car here,

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so I don't know why he's got the car here and hasn't paid it.

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He's actually going back to court at some point.

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He hasn't got a date for that yet, but he will be going back to court.

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Lawrence has told him the best course of action is to pay up now

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and try to challenge it later.

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It sounds like that's what he's going to do.

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He knows he's got to pay it, so he's going to get a card

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from one of his colleagues in there and they're going to pay for it.

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The sheriffs have been on site for a mere 20 minutes

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when associates of the owner arrive.

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Between them, they produce a card and Lawrence takes a payment

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for the full £3,958 owed.

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All went fairly smoothly.

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They will undoubtedly take some kind of legal action, I would think,

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to stop the money being paid out until they've had the hearing,

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but at the end of the day, we've been paid

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and that's all we're worried about.

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In the end, Prestige Car Sales' application

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to get the judgment set aside came to nothing.

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The case never did go back to court.

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Five months after buying the car,

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David Goddard has got his money back.

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I'm very pleased that the outcome is in our favour

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and we've received our money back.

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It's great, brilliant.

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If you've been ripped off

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and the person or company responsible refuses to pay you back,

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the first step is to make a claim in the county court.

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It's simple to do this online.

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For a small fee, depending on the size of the claim,

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the court will review the evidence

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and, if it finds in your favour, the debtor will be ordered to pay up.

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If they don't then, for a further £60,

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the High Court will grant a writ,

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authorising the sheriffs to act on your behalf.

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If they're successful, you get all your money back.

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Sheriffs Lawrence Grix and Kev McNally

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are heading to Ashford in Kent.

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We are going to SBE Ltd.

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We're looking for a total of £2,325 today.

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Our claimant is Extreme Clean Commercial Ltd.

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The cleaning company successfully took SBE Ltd to the county court

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over an unpaid invoice.

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After the debt still wasn't settled,

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they've now transferred up to the High Court and got a writ.

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The sheriffs don't know much about the details of the case,

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but it does gives the pair the opportunity

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to reflect on their own cleaning abilities.

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I am quite tidy, actually, yeah.

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I'm afraid my cleaning doesn't come up to scratch at home.

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My garage is always tidy, everything's in its place.

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That's my domain and people aren't allowed in there.

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And it's not just Lawrence's garage that's spick and span.

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In the van, too, his orderliness has impressed Kev.

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We've got a first-aid kit, we've got a hammer around here

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just in case the van turns upside down

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and we need to smash a windscreen to get out.

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-Doesn't have to be my van, does it?

-In case of a werewolf(!)

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Could come across an accident on the road

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and somebody needs busting out their car.

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If the apocalypse was to hit now,

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we'd be all right in this van, that's all I'm saying.

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There's everything in here you'd ever need.

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Ha-ha!

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Fortunately, the apocalypse hasn't arrived

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by the time they reach the business's premises.

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There it is.

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They don't know what SBE Ltd does,

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or whether there'll be any assets to take.

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The signs on the building don't give much away.

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"Global Electronic Service Logistics Management."

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Whatever that means.

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But they'll soon find out.

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-Oh, good morning.

-Morning.

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Name's Mr Grix. My colleague and I are enforcement agents.

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We've got a High Court writ to execute against SBE Ltd

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so we probably need to speak to somebody in legal or accounts.

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But before reception can call anyone, a woman comes down the stairs.

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-Hi, there.

-Oh, hello.

-We're High Court enforcement agents.

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We have a High Court writ against SBE Ltd on behalf of

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Extreme Clean Commercial Ltd.

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We are here today to take control of goods to the value of £2,325.53.

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Unfortunately, the bottom line is we have a High Court writ which

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commands us to come here and take control of goods to clear the debt.

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And the only way to prevent further action is to pay in full.

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Pay.

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-Transfer.

-Transfer.

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Yeah, sure.

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The woman takes them upstairs but our camera is asked to leave.

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Inside, things start to get complicated.

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They've been joined by the managing director

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and it seems the company isn't willing to just pay up after all.

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The sheriffs have also realised there's a factory

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at the back of the building, full of potential assets,

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only the MD won't let them in.

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When Lawrence demands access, the staff set off the alarms.

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ALARM BLARES

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Moments later, the police arrive.

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What should have been a simple job

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has turned into a headache for the sheriffs.

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After explaining themselves to the officers,

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Kev comes outside to fill us in on what's been happening.

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Yeah, it's a big, old company.

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Out the back, the workings of the factory,

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they're repairing mobile phones.

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There are machines and other assets worth thousands.

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No wonder the managing director doesn't want to let the sheriffs in.

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But it seems light-footed Lawrence has managed to give the MD the slip.

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Lawrence, in his nimbleness, went through a door

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and we were into the workshop.

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With the sheriffs listing assets in the back,

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it was game over for SBE Ltd.

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We're back dealing with the lady we were initially dealing with.

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She has her debit card and she will be paying.

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So, we've got the card machine here, we're going in, getting payment,

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full payment, and we should be on our way soon.

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Kev heads back in with the machine

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and, true to their word, the company finally pay up.

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Debtors' assets are the leverage sheriffs need to get paid

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and they have the right to explore a premises to find them.

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We were dealing with it quite sensibly

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and calmly initially with the young lady,

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but then the managing director came down and started getting himself

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involved, telling us we couldn't do this, we couldn't do that,

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we were required to stay in reception.

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We said we weren't going to so he instructed the receptionist to press

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the panic alarm but I managed to nip through a door

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when somebody went through it so the young lady came back

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and said she would pay it on her card.

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And that's what happened. So, we got paid in full.

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And with that, the sheriffs head off to the next job.

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The cleaning company will now get the £2,325 they were owed.

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This morning, sheriffs Tommy Coyle and Craig Wild

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are in the Black Country.

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So, we're off to West Bromwich this morning with regards

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to two employment tribunal cases against the same company.

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The company itself is Enable UK Midlands Limited.

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The director of the company is an Amjad Mahmood.

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One's for £5,100 and the other one is for £11,700.

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Enable UK Midlands Limited provides supported living services

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for the disabled and elderly.

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In 2015, the Care Quality Commission described its services

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as "not always safe" and the leadership as "inadequate."

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Now, two former staff members have won employment tribunal cases

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for breaches of contract and unpaid wages.

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Today, the sheriffs are instructed

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to collect a total of nearly £17,000.

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Whatever amount we collect today,

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we will split the money equally to each case so they both get a share

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and, hopefully, also, we'll have an arrangement in place

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to pay the rest off for them.

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The job's the same with two writs as with one

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and the first step, as always, is to find the boss.

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-Hello.

-Hi.

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I'm trying to get in contact with Enable UK Ltd.

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Can I help you?

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-Take a seat...

-In the waiting room? OK?

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They said, can we just wait in the waiting room for a minute.

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Bit of courtesy, we will do that,

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but once we've explained the situation to them,

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they need to pay it or we carry on doing our job

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which is taking control of goods.

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After a minute's wait, a man comes in to talk to them.

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Hello, sir.

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Is Amjad about?

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My name is Mr Wild.

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We're here today with two High Court writs for employment

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tribunal liabilities. The total outstanding is £16,962.03.

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We're not leaving until we are paid.

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We can give you some account details to pay it now. If you want them.

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Speak to Amjad first and I will have a chat with him.

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-He ain't got the money.

-They ain't got the money, no.

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Although happy to wait if it looks like they are going to get paid,

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Craig's patience isn't going to last long.

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I think his attitude was that we would leave them letters

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and walk away, but we don't. Not when it gets to this stage.

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We have the power and authority to walk around these premises

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and that's what we will be doing.

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The man comes back but he has not been able to get

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through to the director, Amjad Mahmood.

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We've come up because we need to see where you're trading from.

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No, we're not going to sit here.

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Where are you trading from, office-wise?

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We will come and have a look.

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-We can, we have the authority.

-We have a legal right to do so.

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-I've shown you my identification.

-I showed you mine.

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-I can show you again. We're not waiting here now.

-We can't wait.

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While Craig investigates what's upstairs,

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Tommy heads into the office.

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Before he can do anything, however,

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our camera attracts the attention of the men present.

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We leave and continue filming from the road.

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Inside, staff tell Craig and Tommy

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that they haven't seen Amjad Mahmood for three weeks

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and that there are three other companies in the building

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who, between them, own all the goods.

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Sheriffs are entitled to carry out a diligent search

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for information pertaining to their writ

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and, as they hunt through paperwork in the office,

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Craig and Tommy discover that not only is Mr Mahmood a director

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of at least one of the other companies in the building,

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but they also find a document listing many of the office goods

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as the property of Enable UK Midlands Limited.

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Yeah, it got a bit heated initially inside the building.

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They're all claiming not to know the director of our company

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which we started to find out is not true.

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We started finding more and more paperwork of our company.

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Obviously got them a bit irate.

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They started to realise we're not just going to go away.

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So, the game's more or less up at this point.

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The more information we gather, you see them breaking down

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and they've come to a deal which is they're going to pay 6,900.

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They'll do a controlled goods agreement

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until the rest of the balance is paid on both orders.

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Tommy heads back inside with the card machine and he and Craig

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take payment. It's not long before they're back.

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We have a part payment today of £6,900 which brought

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the balance down to £10,000 exactly.

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As time went by, we kept finding more and more information

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sort of contradicting what they were telling us.

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They ended up looking a bit silly in the end

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and I think they realised and we got the result we did.

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They haven't seen Amjad since Christmas,

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they don't know where he is, he's uncontactable

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and, ultimately, Mr Amjad has 48 hours

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in which to get in contact with our office otherwise we

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will be back to execute and complete the execution of the court order.

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Following the sheriffs' visit, Enable UK Midlands Limited

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entered into a payment plan to clear the outstanding balance.

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Further money was received, however two months later, the company

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was wound up, leaving its debt to its former workers part-paid.

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From multinationals to dodgy car dealers,

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for the sheriffs it's all the same.

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And on the edge of London's financial district,

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enforcement agent Ken Warby is looking for a household name.

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We're going to see Post Office Ltd and they are the debtors.

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The claimant is a small-time landlord who owns

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a shop which provided postal services.

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When the sub-postmaster left, fixtures and fittings

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belonging to the Post Office were left behind for months,

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which the landlord claims prevented him from renting the property out.

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He took the company to court for storage costs and won

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a default judgment after the company didn't defend the case.

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Now it's down to Ken to get more than £11,000 owed.

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That's our building on the left there,

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I think, where the scaffolding is outside.

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But there's no parking outside

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and a road closure sends him on a long detour.

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You couldn't make this up.

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By the time he's found somewhere to park, he's got a mile-long

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walk back to the Post Office.

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Just trying to find the job now.

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When he gets there, the offices look like a building site.

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Nevertheless, this is the address on the writ so Ken heads in.

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Hi there. Sorry to bother you.

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I want to speak to someone at the Post Office Ltd.

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They're not here any more?

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The man says the building is being converted into a hotel.

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It was 20 minutes to walk from the car to here and they're not here.

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Wonderful.

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Satisfied that the Post Office Ltd have moved out,

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Ken leaves and the claimant won't get their money today.

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There's nothing we can do there because it's totally empty.

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They've got no forwarding information on the company.

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They've set up somewhere else around here. I'm sure they would have.

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So we just have to find them and go from there.

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It's not quite as simple as finding the new office and marching in.

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The sheriffs are legally obliged to give debtors seven days' notice

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of their arrival and it's now looking like the letter they sent

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would have gone to the wrong address.

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A couple of weeks later, though, and Ken is back on the hunt.

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Just like last time, there's been no response to the letter

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the sheriffs have sent, but Ken has a theory.

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It must have got lost in the post. Don't know.

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This time he finds a spot nearby and heads straight in.

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But our cameraman isn't allowed to follow him.

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We continue filming from the street while Ken explains

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he's there to collect more than £11,000.

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He's then left to sit in reception while the staff try

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to figure out what's going on.

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A succession of different people come to talk to him but

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so far none of them have offered any payment.

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The woman dealing with it in the legal department has left me

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sitting in reception now for the best part of an hour.

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They're contacting other people at a different legal department,

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I believe somewhere in Bolton.

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I'm getting a bit bored.

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Ken goes back inside where the waiting game continues.

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After more conversations with the staff,

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the Post Office still haven't agreed to pay up.

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Ken could demand to go upstairs and start making

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a list of assets to take away.

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He doesn't want to escalate the situation unless it's necessary

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but, after three hours, that moment is getting closer.

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I'm starting to lose my patience now.

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Just going to dig my heels in and insist on full payment.

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If they don't, then I'm just going to march around their offices,

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list their items, call up a van, with a view to remove their goods.

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So that's where we are at the moment.

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The waiting might be getting on his nerves but to recover 11 grand,

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Ken would have to remove a lot of office equipment so,

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on this occasion, playing the long game

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is the best way to get a result.

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It's quite frustrating because they've got about six magazines

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in there and I've read them cover to cover so far.

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But that's this job sometimes.

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You have to wait around quite a long time for payments.

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Sure enough, the Mexican stand-off soon reaches its finale.

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The Post Office Ltd appears to be on the brink of paying up.

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But before the deal is sealed,

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Ken has to evade some additional expenses of his own.

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Well, the fat lady hasn't sung yet.

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But I'm about to take my seat and get in the audience.

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Payment is imminent but I just need to relocate this car

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otherwise I'll get a ticket.

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With his car safe from traffic wardens,

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Ken makes his way back to Post Office's HQ.

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This time he only has to wait another ten minutes.

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Right, well, after just over four hours of waiting,

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the sheriff finally got his man.

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£11,947.42 -

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exactly what I came for to begin with.

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Great result and the claimant's got his money.

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It's been a long day but it was worth it.

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Ken's persistence and patience has got the claimant back

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the money they were owed.

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The Post Office Ltd subsequently applied to have the judgment

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against them set aside but discontinued their appeal.

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The Post Office told us they...

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And they later reached

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an out of court settlement

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with the claimant.

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