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If you're owed money, but aren't getting paid, it's time to call the sheriffs. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
My name's Mr Grix. My colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:08 | |
I'm here to issue a High Court writ. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:09 | |
I've got to do what I'm instructed to by the courts. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
They're enforcement agents of the High Court, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:14 | |
and if a court's ruled in your favour, they're on your side. | 0:00:14 | 0:00:18 | |
If the debtor doesn't want to pay... | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
You currently owe £9,461.80. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
..the law says the sheriffs can get you what you're owed. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
If you don't come to the door, | 0:00:28 | 0:00:29 | |
we have to remove the vehicle off the drive. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:31 | |
You'll have a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
-Whether it's a small company... -Can I speak to the person in charge? | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
..or a household name... | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
We're here to see somebody from G4S. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:40 | |
..if they owe you money, the sheriffs get it paid. | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
I'm not going anywhere. Get him to come in here. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:46 | |
We're not going to be waiting around. It needs to be done now. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
I just collected 42 grand. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:51 | |
Coming up, David Goddard was sold a family car | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
with more faults than features. | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
Coil springs at the back were gone, | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
the exhaust manifold nuts were missing, | 0:01:01 | 0:01:03 | |
so that was leaking, um...gases. | 0:01:03 | 0:01:05 | |
Can Lawrence and Kev get his money back? | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
Is the owner about? | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
The only way to prevent further action today is to pay in full. | 0:01:10 | 0:01:13 | |
A care provider which owes thousands of pounds in unpaid wages | 0:01:13 | 0:01:17 | |
doesn't want the sheriffs in its office. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:19 | |
We'll come and have a look because obviously... | 0:01:19 | 0:01:22 | |
-We can, sir. -We can. -We have a legal right to do so. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:25 | |
His attitude was that we're going to leave some letters and walk away, but we don't. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
Sheriff Ken Warby is playing the waiting game at the Post Office HQ. | 0:01:28 | 0:01:33 | |
I'm starting to lose my patience now. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
I'm just going to dig my heels in and insist on full payment. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
If they don't, I'm just going to march around their offices, | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
list their items with a view to remove their goods. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
It's a bright spring morning | 0:01:47 | 0:01:49 | |
and Lawrence and Kev are in South London | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
on the trail of a car dealership which owes a debt to their client. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
What is it, 11.30 in the morning? | 0:01:55 | 0:01:57 | |
We are in South Norwood, South London. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
We are going to Prestige Car Sales. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:03 | |
They owe £3,958. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:06 | |
Prestige Car Sales of South Norwood, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
not to be confused with any other company of a similar name, | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
was taken to court by painter and decorator David Goddard. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
His dealings with the business began | 0:02:16 | 0:02:18 | |
when he was looking for a family-sized car for his wife. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:22 | |
I have actually got about 13 grandchildren | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
and six great-grandchildren. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
And my wife takes them, especially in the summer holidays, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
takes them down, we've got a caravan in Selsey Bill. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
So, it was always ideal to have a bigger car | 0:02:33 | 0:02:37 | |
to carry the children around. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
They hadn't been looking for long | 0:02:41 | 0:02:43 | |
before they found a car which seemed to fit the bill. | 0:02:43 | 0:02:46 | |
My wife looked through the internet and found a Vauxhall Zafira, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:51 | |
um...at Prestige Cars of South Norwood. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:56 | |
So they went to have a look | 0:02:56 | 0:02:57 | |
and took the car for a test-drive. | 0:02:57 | 0:02:59 | |
We'd taken it out on the Saturday and it sounded quite nice. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:03 | |
It was fine. The MOT was only 3-4 weeks old, the MOT. | 0:03:03 | 0:03:07 | |
And unfortunately, I left my bag there, in the back of the car, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
after test-driving the vehicle. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
Um...and when we got home, my wife said, "Well, that's an omen. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:18 | |
"You know, that car must be for me." | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
So, they bought it for £2,290. | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
But the problems began immediately. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:28 | |
The next day, there was a puncture, | 0:03:28 | 0:03:30 | |
so we put a new tyre on the vehicle. | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
Um...then I said, "Well, you'd best go down to the tyre place | 0:03:34 | 0:03:39 | |
"and get the tyres checked." | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
Um...and it needed another two tyres. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
Um...and this is only two days after we bought the vehicle. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:49 | |
And that was just the start. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
It was only a matter of days | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
before it started misfiring about two cylinders. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
It started to rock all over, it was jumping all over the place, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
with misfiring, so on and so forth. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:01 | |
And then, finally, it just gave up the ghost, basically. | 0:04:01 | 0:04:06 | |
So we had to abandon the vehicle and get it back home. | 0:04:06 | 0:04:11 | |
David called up Prestige Car Sales | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
to report that the car had broken down. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:16 | |
He said, "Well, can you get the vehicle to us?" | 0:04:16 | 0:04:19 | |
I said, "No, we can't really because it's immobile." | 0:04:19 | 0:04:22 | |
Instead, they agreed he'd take it to a local garage. | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
Their inspection revealed a plethora of problems. | 0:04:26 | 0:04:29 | |
The coil springs at the back were gone, | 0:04:29 | 0:04:31 | |
the exhaust, um...manifold nuts were missing, so that was leaking gases. | 0:04:31 | 0:04:36 | |
He said, "If I was you," he said, "I've got it running for you, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
"but you shouldn't really spend any more money," he said, | 0:04:38 | 0:04:41 | |
"because the misfiring's still there | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
"and diagnostically, it's telling me that it could be the engine, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:48 | |
"it could be the gearbox or it could be a sensor." | 0:04:48 | 0:04:53 | |
I mean, what do you do? Do you replace the three? | 0:04:53 | 0:04:56 | |
It could have been anything up to about £2,000-£3,000. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
It was very, very frustrating that they'd sent the vehicle out | 0:04:59 | 0:05:03 | |
in that sort of condition after me telling them | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
and explaining to them what the vehicle was going to be used for. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:11 | |
David spent £600 fixing just enough to get the car back on the road | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
and contacted Prestige Car Sales about the remaining problems. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:22 | |
He said, "Well, bring the vehicle back", he said, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:24 | |
"and we'll sort it out for you." | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
So, David returned the car to the dealers. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
But while he waited for it be repaired, he took a closer look | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
at the service history documents which he still had. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
He found a cylinder head had previously been replaced | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
and the car had experienced recurring issues | 0:05:38 | 0:05:41 | |
with the engine misfiring. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
I said to my wife, I said, "Look," | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
I said, "this car isn't any good." | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
I said, "It's just not fit for purpose, basically." | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
David decided he no longer wanted it | 0:05:52 | 0:05:55 | |
and asked Prestige Car Sales to keep the car and give him a refund. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
They told him to put it writing, so he did. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
I just said I'd forgo the £600 and £200 I spent on tyres, | 0:06:02 | 0:06:07 | |
just pay me that, I think, £2,290. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
I said, "All I want is my money back, basically, | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
"so we can get another vehicle." | 0:06:14 | 0:06:16 | |
Um...no reply. Nothing. Nothing at all. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:20 | |
I couldn't believe that someone could think that they could | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
just take £2,000-plus off somebody, a working person, | 0:06:24 | 0:06:29 | |
and seem to think they'd forget all about it. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
David took Prestige Car Sales to court. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
They didn't defend the case, so he won a default judgment | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
for the full cost of the car | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
and the repairs he'd made at his own expense. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:42 | |
They still haven't paid. | 0:06:42 | 0:06:44 | |
So, now David's put the sheriffs on the case. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:47 | |
It's a necessity and it's got to be done. | 0:06:47 | 0:06:50 | |
Otherwise, um...I don't know, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
I've no other way of getting the money back, anyway. | 0:06:52 | 0:06:56 | |
In South London, Lawrence and Kev | 0:07:02 | 0:07:05 | |
are about to pay Prestige Car Sales a visit. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
Hoping the dealers are still here, for a start. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
Hoping they've got some assets, | 0:07:10 | 0:07:12 | |
some cars worth some value. | 0:07:12 | 0:07:15 | |
As they approach, it appears | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
the garage is tucked away behind the main high street. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
They head in to make their introductions. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:24 | |
Hello, mate. | 0:07:24 | 0:07:26 | |
-Are you the owner, by any chance? -No, mate. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
-Is the owner about? -Sorry? | 0:07:31 | 0:07:32 | |
Is the owner about? | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
My colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:07:34 | 0:07:36 | |
We've got a High Court writ against Prestige Car Sales. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
We're ordered out by the High Court | 0:07:39 | 0:07:40 | |
to take control of goods to be sold at auction and clear the debt. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
Sorry, are you the owner, are you? | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
Sorry, he just said you weren't here, so... | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
I'll show you some ID, my name's Mr Grix. | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
The boss is here after all. | 0:07:55 | 0:07:56 | |
Now Lawrence has to explain the whole thing all over again. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
We're ordered out by the High Court | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
to take control of goods to the value of £3,958.29. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
Those goods can be sold at auction to clear the debt. | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
The boss leads them into the back. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:11 | |
The only way to prevent further action today is to pay in full. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
The garage extends behind the row of shops | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
and is actually much larger than it appeared from the street. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:23 | |
But we don't get to admire the stock for long. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
-We'll wait outside. -All right. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:31 | |
Our camera is sent outside. | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
Indoors, Lawrence explains that if the owner | 0:08:37 | 0:08:40 | |
doesn't come up with the nearly £4,000 the court demands, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:43 | |
then he'll have no choice but to leave | 0:08:43 | 0:08:45 | |
with at least one of Prestige Car Sales' vehicles. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:49 | |
The boss isn't happy | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
and says he's applied to get the judgment set aside, | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
but he doesn't yet even have a court date. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
He knows all about it. He's actually got the car here, | 0:08:56 | 0:08:58 | |
so I don't know why he's got the car here and hasn't paid it. | 0:08:58 | 0:09:02 | |
He's actually going back to court at some point. | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
He hasn't got a date for that yet, but he will be going back to court. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
Lawrence has told him the best course of action is to pay up now | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
and try to challenge it later. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
It sounds like that's what he's going to do. | 0:09:16 | 0:09:18 | |
He knows he's got to pay it, so he's going to get a card | 0:09:18 | 0:09:20 | |
from one of his colleagues in there and they're going to pay for it. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:24 | |
The sheriffs have been on site for a mere 20 minutes | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
when associates of the owner arrive. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
Between them, they produce a card and Lawrence takes a payment | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
for the full £3,958 owed. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
All went fairly smoothly. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:43 | |
They will undoubtedly take some kind of legal action, I would think, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:46 | |
to stop the money being paid out until they've had the hearing, | 0:09:46 | 0:09:50 | |
but at the end of the day, we've been paid | 0:09:50 | 0:09:52 | |
and that's all we're worried about. | 0:09:52 | 0:09:54 | |
In the end, Prestige Car Sales' application | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
to get the judgment set aside came to nothing. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
The case never did go back to court. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
Five months after buying the car, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:04 | |
David Goddard has got his money back. | 0:10:04 | 0:10:07 | |
I'm very pleased that the outcome is in our favour | 0:10:07 | 0:10:10 | |
and we've received our money back. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
It's great, brilliant. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:15 | |
If you've been ripped off | 0:10:23 | 0:10:24 | |
and the person or company responsible refuses to pay you back, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
the first step is to make a claim in the county court. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
It's simple to do this online. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:33 | |
For a small fee, depending on the size of the claim, | 0:10:33 | 0:10:36 | |
the court will review the evidence | 0:10:36 | 0:10:38 | |
and, if it finds in your favour, the debtor will be ordered to pay up. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:43 | |
If they don't then, for a further £60, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
the High Court will grant a writ, | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
authorising the sheriffs to act on your behalf. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
If they're successful, you get all your money back. | 0:10:51 | 0:10:54 | |
Sheriffs Lawrence Grix and Kev McNally | 0:10:58 | 0:11:00 | |
are heading to Ashford in Kent. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
We are going to SBE Ltd. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
We're looking for a total of £2,325 today. | 0:11:07 | 0:11:09 | |
Our claimant is Extreme Clean Commercial Ltd. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:14 | |
The cleaning company successfully took SBE Ltd to the county court | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
over an unpaid invoice. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:22 | |
After the debt still wasn't settled, | 0:11:22 | 0:11:23 | |
they've now transferred up to the High Court and got a writ. | 0:11:23 | 0:11:27 | |
The sheriffs don't know much about the details of the case, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:31 | |
but it does gives the pair the opportunity | 0:11:31 | 0:11:33 | |
to reflect on their own cleaning abilities. | 0:11:33 | 0:11:36 | |
I am quite tidy, actually, yeah. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
I'm afraid my cleaning doesn't come up to scratch at home. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
My garage is always tidy, everything's in its place. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:48 | |
That's my domain and people aren't allowed in there. | 0:11:48 | 0:11:51 | |
And it's not just Lawrence's garage that's spick and span. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:56 | |
In the van, too, his orderliness has impressed Kev. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
We've got a first-aid kit, we've got a hammer around here | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
just in case the van turns upside down | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
and we need to smash a windscreen to get out. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
-Doesn't have to be my van, does it? -In case of a werewolf(!) | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
Could come across an accident on the road | 0:12:09 | 0:12:11 | |
and somebody needs busting out their car. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:13 | |
If the apocalypse was to hit now, | 0:12:15 | 0:12:17 | |
we'd be all right in this van, that's all I'm saying. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
There's everything in here you'd ever need. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
Ha-ha! | 0:12:21 | 0:12:22 | |
Fortunately, the apocalypse hasn't arrived | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
by the time they reach the business's premises. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
There it is. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:30 | |
They don't know what SBE Ltd does, | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
or whether there'll be any assets to take. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
The signs on the building don't give much away. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
"Global Electronic Service Logistics Management." | 0:12:38 | 0:12:42 | |
Whatever that means. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
But they'll soon find out. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
-Oh, good morning. -Morning. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
Name's Mr Grix. My colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:12:48 | 0:12:52 | |
We've got a High Court writ to execute against SBE Ltd | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
so we probably need to speak to somebody in legal or accounts. | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
But before reception can call anyone, a woman comes down the stairs. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:04 | |
-Hi, there. -Oh, hello. -We're High Court enforcement agents. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
We have a High Court writ against SBE Ltd on behalf of | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
Extreme Clean Commercial Ltd. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:14 | |
We are here today to take control of goods to the value of £2,325.53. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
Unfortunately, the bottom line is we have a High Court writ which | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
commands us to come here and take control of goods to clear the debt. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
And the only way to prevent further action is to pay in full. | 0:13:28 | 0:13:30 | |
Pay. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:33 | |
-Transfer. -Transfer. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:35 | |
Yeah, sure. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:37 | |
The woman takes them upstairs but our camera is asked to leave. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
Inside, things start to get complicated. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:49 | |
They've been joined by the managing director | 0:13:49 | 0:13:51 | |
and it seems the company isn't willing to just pay up after all. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
The sheriffs have also realised there's a factory | 0:13:56 | 0:13:59 | |
at the back of the building, full of potential assets, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
only the MD won't let them in. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
When Lawrence demands access, the staff set off the alarms. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:11 | |
ALARM BLARES | 0:14:11 | 0:14:12 | |
Moments later, the police arrive. | 0:14:14 | 0:14:17 | |
What should have been a simple job | 0:14:17 | 0:14:18 | |
has turned into a headache for the sheriffs. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
After explaining themselves to the officers, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
Kev comes outside to fill us in on what's been happening. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:30 | |
Yeah, it's a big, old company. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
Out the back, the workings of the factory, | 0:14:32 | 0:14:34 | |
they're repairing mobile phones. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:36 | |
There are machines and other assets worth thousands. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
No wonder the managing director doesn't want to let the sheriffs in. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:44 | |
But it seems light-footed Lawrence has managed to give the MD the slip. | 0:14:44 | 0:14:48 | |
Lawrence, in his nimbleness, went through a door | 0:14:50 | 0:14:53 | |
and we were into the workshop. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:55 | |
With the sheriffs listing assets in the back, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:59 | |
it was game over for SBE Ltd. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:02 | |
We're back dealing with the lady we were initially dealing with. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
She has her debit card and she will be paying. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
So, we've got the card machine here, we're going in, getting payment, | 0:15:08 | 0:15:12 | |
full payment, and we should be on our way soon. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
Kev heads back in with the machine | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
and, true to their word, the company finally pay up. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Debtors' assets are the leverage sheriffs need to get paid | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
and they have the right to explore a premises to find them. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:28 | |
We were dealing with it quite sensibly | 0:15:28 | 0:15:31 | |
and calmly initially with the young lady, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:34 | |
but then the managing director came down and started getting himself | 0:15:34 | 0:15:38 | |
involved, telling us we couldn't do this, we couldn't do that, | 0:15:38 | 0:15:41 | |
we were required to stay in reception. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
We said we weren't going to so he instructed the receptionist to press | 0:15:43 | 0:15:48 | |
the panic alarm but I managed to nip through a door | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
when somebody went through it so the young lady came back | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
and said she would pay it on her card. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
And that's what happened. So, we got paid in full. | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
And with that, the sheriffs head off to the next job. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
The cleaning company will now get the £2,325 they were owed. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:07 | |
This morning, sheriffs Tommy Coyle and Craig Wild | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
are in the Black Country. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
So, we're off to West Bromwich this morning with regards | 0:16:24 | 0:16:28 | |
to two employment tribunal cases against the same company. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
The company itself is Enable UK Midlands Limited. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
The director of the company is an Amjad Mahmood. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
One's for £5,100 and the other one is for £11,700. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:43 | |
Enable UK Midlands Limited provides supported living services | 0:16:49 | 0:16:53 | |
for the disabled and elderly. | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
In 2015, the Care Quality Commission described its services | 0:16:55 | 0:17:00 | |
as "not always safe" and the leadership as "inadequate." | 0:17:00 | 0:17:04 | |
Now, two former staff members have won employment tribunal cases | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
for breaches of contract and unpaid wages. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
Today, the sheriffs are instructed | 0:17:12 | 0:17:14 | |
to collect a total of nearly £17,000. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:17 | |
Whatever amount we collect today, | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
we will split the money equally to each case so they both get a share | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
and, hopefully, also, we'll have an arrangement in place | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
to pay the rest off for them. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
The job's the same with two writs as with one | 0:17:30 | 0:17:33 | |
and the first step, as always, is to find the boss. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
-Hello. -Hi. | 0:17:37 | 0:17:39 | |
I'm trying to get in contact with Enable UK Ltd. | 0:17:39 | 0:17:42 | |
Can I help you? | 0:17:42 | 0:17:43 | |
-Take a seat... -In the waiting room? OK? | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
They said, can we just wait in the waiting room for a minute. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
Bit of courtesy, we will do that, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
but once we've explained the situation to them, | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
they need to pay it or we carry on doing our job | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
which is taking control of goods. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
After a minute's wait, a man comes in to talk to them. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
Hello, sir. | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
Is Amjad about? | 0:18:11 | 0:18:12 | |
My name is Mr Wild. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:14 | |
We're here today with two High Court writs for employment | 0:18:14 | 0:18:18 | |
tribunal liabilities. The total outstanding is £16,962.03. | 0:18:18 | 0:18:24 | |
We're not leaving until we are paid. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
We can give you some account details to pay it now. If you want them. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:33 | |
Speak to Amjad first and I will have a chat with him. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
-He ain't got the money. -They ain't got the money, no. | 0:18:37 | 0:18:41 | |
Although happy to wait if it looks like they are going to get paid, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
Craig's patience isn't going to last long. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
I think his attitude was that we would leave them letters | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
and walk away, but we don't. Not when it gets to this stage. | 0:18:52 | 0:18:55 | |
We have the power and authority to walk around these premises | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
and that's what we will be doing. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
The man comes back but he has not been able to get | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
through to the director, Amjad Mahmood. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:06 | |
We've come up because we need to see where you're trading from. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:14 | |
No, we're not going to sit here. | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
Where are you trading from, office-wise? | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
We will come and have a look. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:25 | |
-We can, we have the authority. -We have a legal right to do so. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:29 | |
-I've shown you my identification. -I showed you mine. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:31 | |
-I can show you again. We're not waiting here now. -We can't wait. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:34 | |
While Craig investigates what's upstairs, | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
Tommy heads into the office. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:39 | |
Before he can do anything, however, | 0:19:39 | 0:19:41 | |
our camera attracts the attention of the men present. | 0:19:41 | 0:19:44 | |
We leave and continue filming from the road. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:02 | |
Inside, staff tell Craig and Tommy | 0:20:02 | 0:20:04 | |
that they haven't seen Amjad Mahmood for three weeks | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
and that there are three other companies in the building | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
who, between them, own all the goods. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
Sheriffs are entitled to carry out a diligent search | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
for information pertaining to their writ | 0:20:16 | 0:20:19 | |
and, as they hunt through paperwork in the office, | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
Craig and Tommy discover that not only is Mr Mahmood a director | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
of at least one of the other companies in the building, | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
but they also find a document listing many of the office goods | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
as the property of Enable UK Midlands Limited. | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
Yeah, it got a bit heated initially inside the building. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:37 | |
They're all claiming not to know the director of our company | 0:20:37 | 0:20:40 | |
which we started to find out is not true. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:42 | |
We started finding more and more paperwork of our company. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:45 | |
Obviously got them a bit irate. | 0:20:45 | 0:20:47 | |
They started to realise we're not just going to go away. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
So, the game's more or less up at this point. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:52 | |
The more information we gather, you see them breaking down | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
and they've come to a deal which is they're going to pay 6,900. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
They'll do a controlled goods agreement | 0:20:58 | 0:21:00 | |
until the rest of the balance is paid on both orders. | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
Tommy heads back inside with the card machine and he and Craig | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
take payment. It's not long before they're back. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
We have a part payment today of £6,900 which brought | 0:21:09 | 0:21:13 | |
the balance down to £10,000 exactly. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
As time went by, we kept finding more and more information | 0:21:16 | 0:21:19 | |
sort of contradicting what they were telling us. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
They ended up looking a bit silly in the end | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
and I think they realised and we got the result we did. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
They haven't seen Amjad since Christmas, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:28 | |
they don't know where he is, he's uncontactable | 0:21:28 | 0:21:32 | |
and, ultimately, Mr Amjad has 48 hours | 0:21:32 | 0:21:35 | |
in which to get in contact with our office otherwise we | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
will be back to execute and complete the execution of the court order. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:41 | |
Following the sheriffs' visit, Enable UK Midlands Limited | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
entered into a payment plan to clear the outstanding balance. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
Further money was received, however two months later, the company | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
was wound up, leaving its debt to its former workers part-paid. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:58 | |
From multinationals to dodgy car dealers, | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
for the sheriffs it's all the same. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
And on the edge of London's financial district, | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
enforcement agent Ken Warby is looking for a household name. | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
We're going to see Post Office Ltd and they are the debtors. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:27 | |
The claimant is a small-time landlord who owns | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
a shop which provided postal services. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
When the sub-postmaster left, fixtures and fittings | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
belonging to the Post Office were left behind for months, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:39 | |
which the landlord claims prevented him from renting the property out. | 0:22:39 | 0:22:44 | |
He took the company to court for storage costs and won | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
a default judgment after the company didn't defend the case. | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
Now it's down to Ken to get more than £11,000 owed. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
That's our building on the left there, | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
I think, where the scaffolding is outside. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
But there's no parking outside | 0:23:03 | 0:23:05 | |
and a road closure sends him on a long detour. | 0:23:05 | 0:23:08 | |
You couldn't make this up. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
By the time he's found somewhere to park, he's got a mile-long | 0:23:10 | 0:23:14 | |
walk back to the Post Office. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:16 | |
Just trying to find the job now. | 0:23:16 | 0:23:18 | |
When he gets there, the offices look like a building site. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
Nevertheless, this is the address on the writ so Ken heads in. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
Hi there. Sorry to bother you. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
I want to speak to someone at the Post Office Ltd. | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
They're not here any more? | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
The man says the building is being converted into a hotel. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
It was 20 minutes to walk from the car to here and they're not here. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
Wonderful. | 0:23:51 | 0:23:54 | |
Satisfied that the Post Office Ltd have moved out, | 0:23:54 | 0:23:57 | |
Ken leaves and the claimant won't get their money today. | 0:23:57 | 0:24:00 | |
There's nothing we can do there because it's totally empty. | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
They've got no forwarding information on the company. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
They've set up somewhere else around here. I'm sure they would have. | 0:24:07 | 0:24:10 | |
So we just have to find them and go from there. | 0:24:10 | 0:24:14 | |
It's not quite as simple as finding the new office and marching in. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
The sheriffs are legally obliged to give debtors seven days' notice | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
of their arrival and it's now looking like the letter they sent | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
would have gone to the wrong address. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:26 | |
A couple of weeks later, though, and Ken is back on the hunt. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
Just like last time, there's been no response to the letter | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
the sheriffs have sent, but Ken has a theory. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:38 | |
It must have got lost in the post. Don't know. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
This time he finds a spot nearby and heads straight in. | 0:24:43 | 0:24:47 | |
But our cameraman isn't allowed to follow him. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
We continue filming from the street while Ken explains | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
he's there to collect more than £11,000. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
He's then left to sit in reception while the staff try | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
to figure out what's going on. | 0:25:12 | 0:25:15 | |
A succession of different people come to talk to him but | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
so far none of them have offered any payment. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
The woman dealing with it in the legal department has left me | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
sitting in reception now for the best part of an hour. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
They're contacting other people at a different legal department, | 0:25:27 | 0:25:31 | |
I believe somewhere in Bolton. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
I'm getting a bit bored. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
Ken goes back inside where the waiting game continues. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
After more conversations with the staff, | 0:25:43 | 0:25:46 | |
the Post Office still haven't agreed to pay up. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:49 | |
Ken could demand to go upstairs and start making | 0:25:49 | 0:25:52 | |
a list of assets to take away. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
He doesn't want to escalate the situation unless it's necessary | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
but, after three hours, that moment is getting closer. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
I'm starting to lose my patience now. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:03 | |
Just going to dig my heels in and insist on full payment. | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
If they don't, then I'm just going to march around their offices, | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
list their items, call up a van, with a view to remove their goods. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:13 | |
So that's where we are at the moment. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
The waiting might be getting on his nerves but to recover 11 grand, | 0:26:17 | 0:26:21 | |
Ken would have to remove a lot of office equipment so, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:24 | |
on this occasion, playing the long game | 0:26:24 | 0:26:27 | |
is the best way to get a result. | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
It's quite frustrating because they've got about six magazines | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
in there and I've read them cover to cover so far. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:35 | |
But that's this job sometimes. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
You have to wait around quite a long time for payments. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
Sure enough, the Mexican stand-off soon reaches its finale. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
The Post Office Ltd appears to be on the brink of paying up. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:52 | |
But before the deal is sealed, | 0:26:52 | 0:26:54 | |
Ken has to evade some additional expenses of his own. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:58 | |
Well, the fat lady hasn't sung yet. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
But I'm about to take my seat and get in the audience. | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
Payment is imminent but I just need to relocate this car | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
otherwise I'll get a ticket. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:11 | |
With his car safe from traffic wardens, | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
Ken makes his way back to Post Office's HQ. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:21 | |
This time he only has to wait another ten minutes. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
Right, well, after just over four hours of waiting, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
the sheriff finally got his man. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
£11,947.42 - | 0:27:32 | 0:27:35 | |
exactly what I came for to begin with. | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
Great result and the claimant's got his money. | 0:27:38 | 0:27:41 | |
It's been a long day but it was worth it. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:44 | |
Ken's persistence and patience has got the claimant back | 0:27:44 | 0:27:47 | |
the money they were owed. | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
The Post Office Ltd subsequently applied to have the judgment | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
against them set aside but discontinued their appeal. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:56 | |
The Post Office told us they... | 0:28:00 | 0:28:02 | |
And they later reached | 0:28:09 | 0:28:10 | |
an out of court settlement | 0:28:10 | 0:28:11 | |
with the claimant. | 0:28:11 | 0:28:12 |