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If you're owed money but aren't getting paid, | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
it's time to call the sheriffs. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
-My name is Mr Griggs. My colleague and I are enforcement agents. -I'm here to issue a High Court writ. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:09 | |
I've got to do what I'm instructed to by the court. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
They're enforcement agents of the High Court, | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
and if a court's ruled in your favour, they're on your side. | 0:00:15 | 0:00:18 | |
If the debtor doesn't want to pay... | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
You currently owe £9,461.80. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:25 | |
..the law says the sheriffs can get you what you're owed. | 0:00:25 | 0:00:28 | |
If you don't come to the door, we have to remove the vehicle off the drive. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
You are allowed a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
-Whether it's a small company... -Can I speak to the person in charge, please? | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
..or a household name... | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
We're here to see somebody from G4S. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
..if they owe you money, the sheriffs get it paid. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:43 | |
I'm not going anywhere. You get him to come in here. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:46 | |
We're not going to be waiting around like that. It needs to be done now. | 0:00:46 | 0:00:49 | |
Just collected 42 grand. | 0:00:49 | 0:00:50 | |
Coming up - sheriffs Lawrence and Kerr visit a shop | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
selling mobility scooters | 0:00:57 | 0:00:59 | |
who owe a customer a refund and they plan to get it whatever it takes. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
The goods will be going because there is no evidence that they | 0:01:02 | 0:01:05 | |
belong to anybody else. | 0:01:05 | 0:01:07 | |
Estate agent Karen Vaughan was left on the brink of financial ruin | 0:01:07 | 0:01:11 | |
after a building project went wrong. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
The snowball effect was catastrophic. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
I was over £20,000 further in debt. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
Tommy and Craig track down a man who owes her money. | 0:01:20 | 0:01:23 | |
But will he pay up? | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
Ken pays a visit to a jeweller's shop. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:29 | |
But can he get his hands on the gold and silver? | 0:01:29 | 0:01:32 | |
Sorry, can you come to the door, please? | 0:01:32 | 0:01:34 | |
Unfortunately, she's not letting us in. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
I can't shout through the letterbox, that's ridiculous. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
And in Burnley, a car yard is suffering an identity crisis. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:44 | |
If you're trading as East Lancs Van Sales, | 0:01:44 | 0:01:46 | |
you will have a Companies House number, won't you? | 0:01:46 | 0:01:49 | |
But will the sheriffs get paid? | 0:01:49 | 0:01:51 | |
This morning, enforcement agents Lawrence Griggs and Kevin McNally | 0:01:54 | 0:01:58 | |
are taking a trip to the seaside. | 0:01:58 | 0:02:00 | |
We are heading to East Wittering. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
Down on the south coast. | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
We're going to Non Stop Mobility Ltd for a total of £1,903. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:11 | |
So it's a commercial premises we're going to, a shop. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
The writ's in favour of a customer who bought a mobility scooter and | 0:02:16 | 0:02:20 | |
wasn't happy with it. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
I quote, "It was not fit for purpose." | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
After being refused a refund, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
the customer took the company to court and won by default | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
after it didn't enter a defence. | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
The sheriffs are hopeful they'll be able to get their money back. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
I imagine there's going to be plenty of assets at this shop, as long as the shop's still trading. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:41 | |
We can fill this thing up with mobility scooters, if need be. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
It shouldn't be too much of a problem, I don't think. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
But...famous last words. | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
Famous last words, indeed, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
as this job's about to throw up some surprises. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
-There. -Just there. -The sheriffs head in. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
Inside, they find the company director's husband, Mr McWilliam. | 0:02:57 | 0:03:02 | |
We've got a High Court writ against Non Stop Mobility Ltd. | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
-They've set it aside? -Yeah. -When was this? | 0:03:10 | 0:03:12 | |
It's a familiar story. | 0:03:16 | 0:03:17 | |
Mr McWilliam claims the judgment has been overturned. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
But when he starts getting out his paperwork, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
a different picture emerges. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:25 | |
His appeal hasn't yet been heard, | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
so the only thing which will stop the sheriffs enforcing the writ today | 0:03:28 | 0:03:32 | |
is if he's been granted a stay of execution, which he thinks he has. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:37 | |
Have you got a copy of the order staying the writ? | 0:03:37 | 0:03:39 | |
Because I haven't. Obviously, if it's stayed, | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
then we'll leave you in peace. | 0:03:41 | 0:03:43 | |
But we've got no evidence, at the moment, that it is. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
But unless we can see that, then we have to carry on. | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
The shopkeeper should have a court order confirming what he's saying, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:54 | |
but he can't seem to find it and it's becoming increasingly obvious | 0:03:54 | 0:03:59 | |
he hasn't understood the court process. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
There's two separate things. There's a set-aside and there's a stay. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:05 | |
And each incurs its own fee. How many application forms did you send? | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
And what did the application ask for, a set-aside or a stay? | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
They won't give you a stay without a set-aside. And the fact that you've got a hearing date, | 0:04:16 | 0:04:20 | |
that is when your set-aside hearing is. Well, if you've only paid 150... One lot of £155... | 0:04:20 | 0:04:24 | |
If Mr McWilliam had got a stay of execution, | 0:04:27 | 0:04:30 | |
then he would have had to pay a second court fee. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
It sounds like he didn't. | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
If you can't find the paperwork, have you got the money to pay this today? | 0:04:35 | 0:04:38 | |
Right, then we'll be removing goods. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
The man insists he does have a stay of execution, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
but his paperwork's in disarray. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
No, this was the original judgment. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
He's showing Lawrence various letters from the court. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
This is a notice that it's been transferred to Chichester. | 0:04:55 | 0:04:59 | |
But none are the right one. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:00 | |
So we're getting there, but you hadn't even opened that. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:05 | |
Mr McWilliam says, because it's his wife's business, | 0:05:05 | 0:05:08 | |
he doesn't know where the court order is. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
Are you able to give her a ring and see if she knows where she's put it? | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
Well, she might know where it is, sir. And with all due respect, | 0:05:16 | 0:05:19 | |
your paperwork seems to be a bit of a shambles. | 0:05:19 | 0:05:21 | |
You've got letters you haven't opened and you don't seem to be able | 0:05:21 | 0:05:23 | |
to find anything. It might be worth giving her a call to see if she knows where it is. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:28 | |
Then, amongst a pile of letters, it's Lawrence that strikes gold. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:33 | |
-Oh, here it is. -It's the court order, | 0:05:33 | 0:05:36 | |
confirming there's a hearing in a few weeks' time. | 0:05:36 | 0:05:39 | |
But it's what it doesn't say that's crucial. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:41 | |
There's nothing there that says enforcement action is stayed in the interim. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
That's because you didn't send in... | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
It's the smoking gun Lawrence needs. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
He can now press on to try to get the claimant her money back. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
It doesn't stay execution in the meantime. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
So the amount outstanding is £1903.03, | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
which needs to be paid immediately or goods will be removed. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:04 | |
Is there no-one that can lend you the money? | 0:06:07 | 0:06:09 | |
No. Right, well, goods will be removed to clear the debt, then, sir. | 0:06:09 | 0:06:12 | |
Lawrence wastes no time in ordering a removal van. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:17 | |
All right. Can I have a Luton van? | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
I think it will all fit in a Luton. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:24 | |
The sheriffs get to work deciding which items to take. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:29 | |
In particular, they've got their eyes on the mobility scooters, | 0:06:29 | 0:06:32 | |
which are the most valuable things in the shop. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:36 | |
But now faced with their removal, | 0:06:36 | 0:06:37 | |
Mr McWilliam claims they are not the shop's. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
Right, have you got paperwork to that effect? | 0:06:44 | 0:06:46 | |
Paperwork where you enter into a contract with people to sell goods on their behalf. | 0:06:46 | 0:06:50 | |
Well, then the goods will be going, because there is no evidence that they belong to anybody else. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:01 | |
But just when it looks like this job is only going one way, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:04 | |
events take a surprising turn. | 0:07:04 | 0:07:07 | |
Mr McWilliam has phoned the courts and is asking them to intervene on his behalf. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:13 | |
He appears to have found a sympathetic ear and hands the phone to Lawrence. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:32 | |
What I've said to the gentleman, | 0:07:32 | 0:07:34 | |
he's obviously applied for a set-aside because he's got the hearing date, | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
but he hasn't an applied for a stay in the interim. | 0:07:38 | 0:07:40 | |
I've got a truck on the way to remove the contents of the shop. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:43 | |
He should have applied for a stay, he hasn't. He hasn't got one. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:47 | |
So the writ is live and we're here to execute it today. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:50 | |
But the woman at the court wants to double-check. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
She's gone. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:54 | |
She is going to go and speak to the judge. | 0:07:56 | 0:07:58 | |
A few minutes later, she rings back. | 0:07:58 | 0:08:00 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
And it's just what Lawrence had feared. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:09 | |
I need a copy of that revised order e-mailing to me, please. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
A judge has revised the court order | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
and even though he hasn't paid for it, | 0:08:17 | 0:08:19 | |
Mr McWilliam has now been granted a stay of execution. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:22 | |
As it is the sheriffs' job to carry out the court's wishes, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
they have to leave empty-handed. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:29 | |
But later in the programme, | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
we'll find out what happens when they're back two months later. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:34 | |
If you've been ripped off and the person or company responsible refuses to | 0:08:39 | 0:08:43 | |
pay you back, the first step is to make a claim in the County Court. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:48 | |
It's simple to do this online | 0:08:48 | 0:08:50 | |
for a small fee, depending on the size of the claim. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:53 | |
The court will review the evidence, and if it finds in your favour, | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
the debtor will be ordered to pay up. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
If they don't, then for a further £60, the High Court will grant a writ, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:04 | |
authorising the sheriffs to act on your behalf. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
If they're successful, you get all your money back. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
In the Midlands, enforcement agents Tommy Coyle and Craig Wilde are on | 0:09:16 | 0:09:20 | |
their way to Solihull. | 0:09:20 | 0:09:22 | |
They're looking to try to recover a debt resulting from a business deal | 0:09:22 | 0:09:26 | |
gone sour. | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
The judgment's against a Mr Alan Beale. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
It's a home address, for just over £15,000. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
So it's a lot of money. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:34 | |
The money is owed to Karen Vaughan, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
an independent estate agent who also dabbles in property development. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:42 | |
Her involvement with Mr Beale began when she was looking for a new project | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
to invest her savings. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
I've done a few projects. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:49 | |
I've bought land, I've done some refurbishments on properties. | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
And what I was really hoping to do is to actually do a build. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:58 | |
That was really the next stage, the natural progression for me. | 0:09:58 | 0:10:01 | |
A suitable site in Wolverhampton had come up, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
perfect to build four houses. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
Karen could afford to buy the land but needed help to see the project | 0:10:07 | 0:10:11 | |
through, so teamed up with a local builder, Alan Beale. | 0:10:11 | 0:10:14 | |
I was providing the finance for the project, and Alan was dealing with all the building aspects. | 0:10:16 | 0:10:23 | |
I'd seen some properties that had already been built with Alan. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:28 | |
He's a likeable person. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:31 | |
He seemed very knowledgeable on what he was doing, so, yeah, | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
I thought that we were starting a good working relationship | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
and it was the start of things to come, really. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:42 | |
Before they could buy the plot, | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
the pair got surveys done and plans drawn up. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
But then the project started to drag | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
and Karen began to realise there was a problem. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
Alan was quite a busy person and it would appear that he wasn't | 0:10:52 | 0:10:58 | |
getting back to architects, | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
solicitors, the vendor of the site, etc, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
within the timescales that they required, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
and eventually the vendor decided that he couldn't wait any longer. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:11 | |
The seller pulled out and sold the land to someone else. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:15 | |
That meant all their work so far was down the drain. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
Alan started to forward to me the invoices for the work that he'd | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
instructed. For example, the architects, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:26 | |
the site investigation works, etc. | 0:11:26 | 0:11:28 | |
And I think it was at that point that the realisation hit that we | 0:11:28 | 0:11:32 | |
were somewhere in the region of 20,000 in debt. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:38 | |
And those bills needed paying. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
So Karen paid them, all £20,000 of it. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:44 | |
She assumed her business partner would chip in, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:46 | |
but she was in for a shock. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:48 | |
Alan's attitude was that we had set up a limited company and the idea of | 0:11:48 | 0:11:53 | |
a limited company is to protect you personally from any debt, | 0:11:53 | 0:11:57 | |
if the company fails. | 0:11:57 | 0:11:59 | |
He felt that there was no legal need to have to pay that debt | 0:11:59 | 0:12:03 | |
and, therefore, if I wanted to pay them, that was my choice. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
Karen had been counting on the income from the completion of the project | 0:12:08 | 0:12:12 | |
to honour other financial commitments and was now plunged into crisis. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
Personally, I was devastated that I was over £20,000 further in debt | 0:12:17 | 0:12:23 | |
than I was to start with. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
The snowball effect, financially, was catastrophic. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
She missed loan payments, and her business was nearly repossessed. | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
So when she finally managed to persuade Mr Beale to pay back half of the money, it was a huge relief. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:42 | |
He drew up a loan agreement and agreed to pay an amount each month | 0:12:42 | 0:12:47 | |
to clear that debt. He made the first payment | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
and so I thought everything was great, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
we were moving forward at last. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:54 | |
But unfortunately when the second payment was due, | 0:12:54 | 0:12:56 | |
there was no money forthcoming. | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
Despite phone calls, messages, texting and e-mails, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:04 | |
Alan never came forward with any further payments. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:07 | |
As he had broken a signed agreement, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
Karen was able to pursue him through the courts. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:15 | |
She won a County Court judgment against Mr Beale, | 0:13:15 | 0:13:18 | |
and when he still didn't pay, took it to the High Court. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:21 | |
I've given him every opportunity to make this payment, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
but he's ignored everything and I have put it in the hands of the sheriffs | 0:13:26 | 0:13:30 | |
and I hope that this will sort of evoke some sort of response and make him | 0:13:30 | 0:13:37 | |
see that this debt is not going away. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
Now, Tommy and Craig are on their way to see Mr Beale, | 0:13:47 | 0:13:50 | |
and Craig is feeling confident. | 0:13:50 | 0:13:52 | |
He is a director of four limited companies. | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
Building companies, a log home company. | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
He's obviously clearly a man of means so, hopefully, | 0:13:57 | 0:14:00 | |
we'll go and see Mr Beale | 0:14:00 | 0:14:01 | |
and try and get Miss Vaughan's money for her. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:05 | |
At the house, there is no sign of a builder's van on the drive, | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
but is Mr Beale home? | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:14:16 | 0:14:17 | |
Builder's boots. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:20 | |
Hello, my love. Sorry to disturb you. Trying to get in contact with Mr Alan Beale. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
Are you his wife, are you? | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
-My name is Mr Wilde, I'm from the High Court. -OK. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
If you can get him on the phone for me. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:33 | |
I'm here to execute a court order. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
Yes, no problem at all. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:37 | |
No, not you, Tommy. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:39 | |
No. I'm locked out. | 0:14:39 | 0:14:42 | |
Craig is inside at least, so... | 0:14:45 | 0:14:47 | |
Get some dialogue going. | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
Inside, the woman tells Craig that she is Mr Beale's partner. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
As he seems to live there, | 0:14:56 | 0:14:58 | |
the sheriffs could begin to list items to remove from the house to cover | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
the debt, but it would be much better if Mr Beale could pay in some other way, | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
so the woman manages to reach him by phone and Craig fills Tommy in | 0:15:06 | 0:15:10 | |
-via the window. -He's just phoned in. He's saying he hasn't got the money. | 0:15:10 | 0:15:14 | |
-Right. -So we'll wait until he turns up, anyway, | 0:15:14 | 0:15:16 | |
cos he's only about ten or 15 minutes away. | 0:15:16 | 0:15:18 | |
But there's another guy called Kevin turning up as well. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Mr Beale's apparently on his way back to the house, | 0:15:21 | 0:15:24 | |
so it looks like the sheriffs are going to get to speak to him | 0:15:24 | 0:15:27 | |
face to face. After a short wait, a truck pulls up. | 0:15:27 | 0:15:31 | |
Here we go. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:32 | |
Mr Beale has arrived alone. | 0:15:35 | 0:15:37 | |
He tells Tommy he can't afford to pay back his debt to Karen Vaughan | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
and he hasn't brought any money. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:43 | |
He doesn't want to be filmed and goes into the house, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
where Craig explains he's got a writ | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
from the High Court that empowers him | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
to remove goods to cover the debt, | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
and after some fraught discussions, there are some promising signs. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:56 | |
Craig's just come out now | 0:15:56 | 0:15:58 | |
and he just requested to get the card machine. | 0:15:58 | 0:16:01 | |
It looks like Craig has managed to negotiate at least some kind of | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
payment. Sure enough, before long, the sheriffs are on their way. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
So, nearly 18 months after signing the loan agreement with Mr Beale, | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
has Karen finally got her money? | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
The defendant turned up. He couldn't pay. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:20 | |
But his partner decided to | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
extend the hand of gratuity to him to get it paid off. | 0:16:23 | 0:16:27 | |
So that's what she's done, £15,000. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
There you go. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:31 | |
Another good day for the sheriffs. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:33 | |
Another good day, hopefully, for Miss Vaughan. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:36 | |
I have to say, I am actually surprised. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
Whilst I was hoping for a good outcome, I didn't expect this. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:42 | |
So, thank you, sheriffs. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:44 | |
You've done an amazing job. I can't thank you enough. | 0:16:44 | 0:16:47 | |
Earlier, Lawrence and Kev visited a shop called Non Stop Mobility in East Wittering. | 0:17:00 | 0:17:05 | |
They'd been taken to court by a customer who'd been refused | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
a refund after buying a faulty scooter. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:12 | |
The sheriffs had to walk away empty-handed after a judge granted the shop | 0:17:12 | 0:17:16 | |
a last-minute stay of execution to allow an appeal to take place. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
Now, two months later, | 0:17:23 | 0:17:24 | |
Lawrence and Kev are heading to the seaside town once again. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:28 | |
He's had his hearing. The case has been thrown out. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:30 | |
So we are on our way back here now. | 0:17:30 | 0:17:32 | |
And we're going to get payment. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:34 | |
Well, we're hoping to get payment. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:35 | |
But the sheriffs aren't banking on it being that simple. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
Last time, the shopkeeper said he didn't have the money. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
And now, with extra fees, the bill's gone up. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
Best-case scenario, he's expecting us and he's got the money sitting there, waiting for us, | 0:17:45 | 0:17:49 | |
-but I shouldn't think so. -One of the problems I foresee we're going to have | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
is the main stuff of value was the scooters he had in there, | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
the mobility scooters. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
Considering he knows he's lost his case, they might have gone. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:02 | |
Going to know we're going to be back. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:04 | |
Lawrence and Kev march up the street and into the shop. | 0:18:06 | 0:18:10 | |
Hello. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
At first, the shop looks to be unattended, | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
but then Mr McWilliam emerges from the back. | 0:18:16 | 0:18:18 | |
-Oh, hello. -Hello again, sir. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:21 | |
You lost your appeal, didn't you? So now the full total is due. | 0:18:21 | 0:18:24 | |
We're here today to take control of goods to the value of £3,268.36. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:30 | |
Were you not aware you lost? | 0:18:30 | 0:18:31 | |
This time he asks our cameraman to leave. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:42 | |
He tells Lawrence he thought he'd won his case. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
He gets out some paperwork from the court which he says will prove it. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
But it's a move that spectacularly backfires. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:52 | |
He's saying he doesn't know anything about it and then produces a letter | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
that is an order saying that his case has been dismissed and he also | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
has got an extra £1,500 on top of the judgment there. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
So, by producing this letter, his debt's got £1,500 added to it. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:09 | |
So he's not...he's not best pleased about that. | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
The sheriffs hadn't been told about the additional costs awarded by the | 0:19:12 | 0:19:16 | |
court. Now they've been added, the shop owes well over £4,500. | 0:19:16 | 0:19:21 | |
And Mr McWilliam isn't about to settle up. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
He's saying he hasn't got any money to pay, the same as he was last time. | 0:19:25 | 0:19:28 | |
And to be honest, I don't doubt him. His wife's got no money. He's got no money. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:32 | |
So, the only thing we've got of value, really, are the scooters. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
I think there's nine scooters in total. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:36 | |
He's saying he's signed a letter saying that his mate owns them. | 0:19:36 | 0:19:40 | |
But that is literally just a piece of paper. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
So we've decided we're going to take these scooters because there's no | 0:19:42 | 0:19:46 | |
other way we're going to get paid here at all. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
In fact, it's not just the scooters that will be going. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
To get the claimant her money back, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
they're going to have to pretty much clear out the shop. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
Lawrence has begun listing the goods one by one, and Kev reckons he's | 0:19:57 | 0:20:01 | |
rather enjoying it. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
He's got a bit of a glint in his eye looking at some of these scooters. | 0:20:03 | 0:20:07 | |
There's a sort of wide scooter that he's got his eye on, I think. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:10 | |
He's coming to that sort of age. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:12 | |
Don't tell him that, though. | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
But Lawrence shouldn't get carried away too quickly, as Mr McWilliam | 0:20:14 | 0:20:19 | |
has again put in a call to the local court | 0:20:19 | 0:20:21 | |
in a bid to stop the sheriffs in their tracks. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:25 | |
They've advised him to fill in some different form | 0:20:25 | 0:20:27 | |
that she's going to submit to the judge. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
And in the meantime, the atmosphere inside the shop is heating up, | 0:20:31 | 0:20:35 | |
as a man has arrived with a large Alsatian dog. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:38 | |
It turns out he's got some sort of stake in this business, | 0:20:38 | 0:20:42 | |
so he's got money invested in it. | 0:20:42 | 0:20:44 | |
I think he's the guy that owns the scooters as well, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
or claims to own the scooters. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
But I think he's got actual more investment than just that. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:51 | |
He sort of bombed in here with his Alsatian, | 0:20:51 | 0:20:53 | |
telling us we're not going to do this and that, and what have you. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
But it's going to take more than a large dog to put the sheriffs off, | 0:20:57 | 0:21:01 | |
and the man soon leaves. | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
Meanwhile, Mr McWilliam has heard back from his latest appeal to the | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
courts and this time he hasn't been so lucky. | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
Surprisingly enough, the judge has seen it already, | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
but dismissed everything. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
So that avenue for him has gone now. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
He's insisting he's got no way to pay and he's phoned around his friends | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
and everyone else to see if anyone can help. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:24 | |
But no-one is going to do anything. | 0:21:24 | 0:21:26 | |
So the entire contents of the shop are going to be removed. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:30 | |
There's three scooters, I think, that we've seen paperwork for, | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
to show us that they don't belong to this limited company. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:36 | |
The rest of it's going to be going and the truck is on its way. | 0:21:36 | 0:21:40 | |
It's obvious the business is struggling, and emptying the shop isn't ideal for anyone. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:45 | |
So Lawrence and Kev do make one last-ditch attempt to get the man to make some kind of payment. | 0:21:45 | 0:21:51 | |
But it doesn't have quite the reaction they'd hoped for. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
Well, we basically said if he could get two-and-a-half grand together then we could | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
leave the stuff here and put an arrangement in place for him. | 0:21:59 | 0:22:02 | |
But he's not going for it, can't get any funds together, so he's gone. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:05 | |
He's given us the keys to the shop and he's off. Left us to it. So... | 0:22:05 | 0:22:09 | |
It's what he wants to do, it's up to him. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
The truck pulls up outside and Lawrence and Kev start loading. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:16 | |
Well, that's going to be the first one. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:19 | |
What's the best way to take 'em? | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
Because we don't want them going down those steps. | 0:22:22 | 0:22:24 | |
There's only one thing for it. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
Right, get up there. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
After all, Lawrence is at home on anything with four wheels, | 0:22:37 | 0:22:41 | |
even if it only goes 5mph. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:45 | |
I do have some knowledge of mobility scooters. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:49 | |
My mother got through a few in her latter years, God rest her. | 0:22:49 | 0:22:53 | |
Managed to fit a few in the back of my van when they'd broken down, | 0:22:53 | 0:22:56 | |
and I had to go and collect her. Cos she used to run out of batteries. | 0:22:56 | 0:23:00 | |
Kev, meanwhile, is wrestling with the complexity of the machines. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
What's going on here? What's he done to this one? | 0:23:04 | 0:23:07 | |
Has he broken this one? | 0:23:07 | 0:23:08 | |
This one's got something wrong with it, Lawrence. | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
Only Lawrence doesn't have the same problem. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
It's very slow, but I'll get there. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
Might have to push a bit. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
As for Kev, he's still struggling... | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
It's not neutral. What am I not doing right? | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
..and is ultimately beaten. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:32 | |
This one, Lawrence, it's broken. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
What have you done with it? | 0:23:34 | 0:23:36 | |
-It's just broke. -It's not broken. | 0:23:36 | 0:23:38 | |
You muppet. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
They fill up the van as much as they can and though it probably won't be | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
enough to cover the £4,500 the shop owes, every bit helps. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:51 | |
Mobility stuff has got a value. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:55 | |
There's a few bits in there that are worth a reasonable amount of money. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
But most of it is second-hand. | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
But it will have some value to it. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
And that means that the customer who took the shop to court will get at | 0:24:02 | 0:24:06 | |
least some of their money back. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:08 | |
Sheriff Ken Warby is battling the rain in Finchley, north London. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:23 | |
He's pursuing a debt owed by another small shop, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
but this is a very different kind of business. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
We're off to a place called Gina Jewellers. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
The debt is £1,600. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
The only thing I know about it is it's a... | 0:24:34 | 0:24:37 | |
it's unpaid invoices to a jewellery wholesaler's. | 0:24:37 | 0:24:41 | |
The wholesaler is a family firm called Jenny Brown Ltd. | 0:24:41 | 0:24:45 | |
After Gina Jewellers ran up an unpaid bill of over £1,000, | 0:24:45 | 0:24:48 | |
they took the matter to the County Court and won a judgment in their | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
favour. It's not been settled, | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
and now Ken is on his way to chase the debt. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
Ken's looking forward to the job. | 0:24:57 | 0:24:59 | |
It's not just diamonds that are a sheriff's best friend. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:02 | |
He'd settle for gold or silver, if it comes to it. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
They're very easy to remove goods from, jewellery shops. | 0:25:05 | 0:25:08 | |
You can usually demand the full amount straightaway. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:14 | |
So, yeah, pretty confident we could get a result on this one. | 0:25:14 | 0:25:17 | |
Oh, there it is. And it is Gina Jewellers, yes. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:23 | |
Ken parks up and heads for the door. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:32 | |
But it turns out he's not the only one | 0:25:32 | 0:25:33 | |
aware of how easily the shop's stock can be removed. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:37 | |
They've got a button-entry system, so Ken won't just be striding in. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
The lady's seen me standing here. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:43 | |
Hello. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
See if they'll come... | 0:25:48 | 0:25:49 | |
Hello! Sorry, can you come to the door, please? | 0:25:51 | 0:25:55 | |
The staff have decided they don't like the look of Ken and our camera | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
and they're not opening up. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
Instead, they're battening down the hatches. | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
It's an intercom to get into the door. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
Now they're behind the protective screen and they're on the phone to | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
someone now. Could be the police or anyone, I don't know. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Ken can't do anything unless he can get inside the shop | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
or at least speak to the staff. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
With no leverage, he's got to try and be diplomatic. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
I'll explain what this is about. I've got identification on me. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:27 | |
Can you not come to the door? | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
Well, I can't shout through the letterbox. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:32 | |
That's ridiculous. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:34 | |
That is, however, exactly what he'll have to do. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
Right, it's regarding a debt owed to someone called Jenny Brown Ltd. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:41 | |
Is that making any sense? | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
Right, OK. You've got an amount outstanding | 0:26:44 | 0:26:48 | |
as at today's date of £1,668.88. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
The staff member says the shop has recently changed hands | 0:26:52 | 0:26:56 | |
and that the debt dates back to the previous owners. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:59 | |
What Ken will need to find out is whether any of the assets inside | 0:26:59 | 0:27:03 | |
actually belong to the company named on the writ. | 0:27:03 | 0:27:06 | |
But that's going to be tricky, as the woman still won't open the door. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
Unfortunately, she's not letting us in, and the owner isn't back until | 0:27:10 | 0:27:15 | |
later on this afternoon. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:17 | |
She's told me to wait for an hour or so. | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
I'm wondering what she is going to come back to the door and talk about. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
But at the moment she's only talking to me through the other side. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:26 | |
A bit of a shame, because there's certainly plenty of assets in there. | 0:27:26 | 0:27:31 | |
But unless the woman is willing to open the door, | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
he won't be getting his hands on any of those assets today. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
Faced with little alternative, Ken decides to call it quits for now. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:41 | |
Would you take this? All right? | 0:27:42 | 0:27:43 | |
This just explains what the debt is about. That's the breakdown. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:47 | |
All I will suggest, OK, because this is our first attendance, | 0:27:48 | 0:27:53 | |
is that this gets paid today. | 0:27:53 | 0:27:56 | |
Because failing that, we will be back again. | 0:27:56 | 0:27:59 | |
And when we come back, there will be extra charges on there. | 0:27:59 | 0:28:04 | |
All right, thank you. Bye. Cheers. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:08 | |
Ken's hoping the threat of a growing bill will prompt the company | 0:28:09 | 0:28:13 | |
to respond, and that's the best he can do. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
I'm hoping that she's going to give me a call later on today, | 0:28:16 | 0:28:18 | |
or get the debt paid. | 0:28:18 | 0:28:20 | |
We'll be back another day. It doesn't bother me that much. | 0:28:20 | 0:28:24 | |
Ken heads off to the next job. | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
But a couple of hours later, he gets a phone call. | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
Hello. There are two ways you can pay that. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
You can either go online and pay it by card | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
or you can do a bank transfer. | 0:28:36 | 0:28:39 | |
Ken's presence at the shop earlier clearly had an effect. | 0:28:39 | 0:28:42 | |
Even though the shop's being taken over by a different company, | 0:28:42 | 0:28:46 | |
the sale hasn't yet completed and in the meantime the new boss is willing | 0:28:46 | 0:28:50 | |
to settle the debt on the previous owner's behalf. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:53 | |
Thank you. Bye-bye. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:54 | |
Apparently they're under new ownership but the guy that's bought | 0:28:54 | 0:28:58 | |
the jeweller's still wants to clear the debts. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:03 | |
The debt outstanding is £1,668 as at today's date. | 0:29:04 | 0:29:08 | |
He said he can pay the 600. | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
I said, if you can pay the £1,000 today, | 0:29:12 | 0:29:14 | |
I'll give him two weeks to pay the balance. | 0:29:14 | 0:29:18 | |
He's going to give me a call back. | 0:29:18 | 0:29:20 | |
So, hopefully, that will get sorted soon as well. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:22 | |
Later that day, the boss did pay the £1,000 | 0:29:25 | 0:29:28 | |
and cleared the remaining balance within two weeks. | 0:29:28 | 0:29:32 | |
Jenny Brown Ltd have now got their money back. | 0:29:32 | 0:29:35 | |
It's a bright spring morning, and Lawrence and Kev are in south London | 0:29:47 | 0:29:51 | |
on the trail of a car dealership which owes a debt to their client. | 0:29:51 | 0:29:54 | |
It's 11.30 in the morning. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:57 | |
We are in South Norwood, south London. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
We are going to Prestige Car Sales. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:03 | |
They owe £3,958. | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
Prestige Car Sales of South Norwood, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
not to be confused with any other company of a similar name, | 0:30:10 | 0:30:12 | |
was taken to court by painter and decorator David Goddard. | 0:30:12 | 0:30:16 | |
His dealings with the business began when he was looking for | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
a family-sized car for his wife. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:20 | |
I've actually got about 13 grandchildren | 0:30:22 | 0:30:25 | |
and six great-grandchildren, | 0:30:25 | 0:30:27 | |
and my wife takes them, especially in summer holidays, takes them down... | 0:30:27 | 0:30:31 | |
We've got a caravan in Selsey Bill. | 0:30:31 | 0:30:34 | |
So it was always ideal to have a bigger car | 0:30:34 | 0:30:38 | |
to carry the children around. | 0:30:38 | 0:30:40 | |
They hadn't been looking for long | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
before they found a car which seemed to fit the bill. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:46 | |
My wife looked through the internet | 0:30:46 | 0:30:48 | |
and found a Vauxhall Zafira | 0:30:48 | 0:30:52 | |
at Prestige Cars of South Norwood. | 0:30:52 | 0:30:56 | |
So they went to have a look and took the car for a test drive. | 0:30:56 | 0:30:59 | |
We'd taken it out on the Saturday and it sounded quite nice. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:03 | |
It was fine. The MOT was only three to four weeks old, the MOT. | 0:31:03 | 0:31:08 | |
Unfortunately, I left my bag there in the back of the car after | 0:31:08 | 0:31:12 | |
test-driving the vehicle, | 0:31:12 | 0:31:14 | |
and when we got home my wife said, "Well, that's an omen." | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
She said, "That car must be for me." | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
So they bought it for £2,290. | 0:31:23 | 0:31:26 | |
But the problems began immediately. | 0:31:26 | 0:31:28 | |
The next day, there was a puncture. | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
So we put a new tyre on the vehicle. | 0:31:31 | 0:31:34 | |
Then I said, "Well, you best go down to the tyres place | 0:31:35 | 0:31:39 | |
"and get the tyres checked." | 0:31:39 | 0:31:40 | |
It needed another two tyres and this is only sort of | 0:31:42 | 0:31:46 | |
two days after we bought the vehicle. | 0:31:46 | 0:31:49 | |
And that was just the start. | 0:31:49 | 0:31:51 | |
It was only a matter of days | 0:31:51 | 0:31:52 | |
before it started misfiring about two cylinders, | 0:31:52 | 0:31:55 | |
it rocking... It was jumping all over the place, | 0:31:55 | 0:31:59 | |
misfiring, so on and so forth. | 0:31:59 | 0:32:01 | |
And then, finally, it just gave up the ghost, basically. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:05 | |
David called up Prestige Car Sales to report the car had broken down. | 0:32:05 | 0:32:10 | |
He said, "Well, can you get the vehicle to us?" | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
I said, "No, we can't really because it's immobile." | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
Instead, they agreed he'd take it to a local garage. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
Their inspection revealed a plethora of problems. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
The core springs at the back were gone, the exhaust manifold nuts were missing, | 0:32:23 | 0:32:28 | |
so that was leaking gases. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:30 | |
He said, "If I was you... I've got it running for you | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
"but you shouldn't really spend any more money. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:36 | |
"It could be the engine, | 0:32:36 | 0:32:38 | |
"it could be the gearbox or it could be a sensor." | 0:32:38 | 0:32:42 | |
It could have been anything up to about £2,000 to £3,000. | 0:32:42 | 0:32:45 | |
It was very, very frustrating that | 0:32:45 | 0:32:48 | |
they'd sent the vehicle out in that sort of condition. | 0:32:48 | 0:32:52 | |
David spent £600 fixing just enough to get the car back on the road and | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
contacted Prestige Car Sales about the remaining problems. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:02 | |
He said, "Well, bring the vehicle back and we'll sort it out for you." | 0:33:02 | 0:33:07 | |
So David returned the car to the dealers. | 0:33:07 | 0:33:09 | |
But while he waited for it to be repaired, | 0:33:09 | 0:33:11 | |
he took a closer look at the service history documents, | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
which he still had. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:15 | |
He found a cylinder head had previously been replaced | 0:33:15 | 0:33:18 | |
and the car had experienced recurring issues | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
with the engine misfiring. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:23 | |
I said to my wife... | 0:33:23 | 0:33:25 | |
I said, "This car isn't any good." | 0:33:25 | 0:33:29 | |
I said, "It's just not fit for purpose, basically." | 0:33:29 | 0:33:32 | |
David decided he no longer wanted it and asked Prestige Car Sales to keep | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
the car and give him a refund. | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
They told him to put it in writing, so he did. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
I said I'd forgo the 600 and 200 I spent on tyres. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:47 | |
"Just pay me the £2,290." | 0:33:47 | 0:33:50 | |
I said, "All I want is my money back, basically, | 0:33:50 | 0:33:54 | |
"so that we can get another vehicle." | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
No reply, nothing at all. | 0:33:58 | 0:34:00 | |
I couldn't believe that someone could think they could just take | 0:34:00 | 0:34:05 | |
£2,000-plus off of somebody, | 0:34:05 | 0:34:08 | |
a working person, and think they'd forget all about it. | 0:34:08 | 0:34:12 | |
David took Prestige Car Sales to court. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:15 | |
They didn't defend the case, | 0:34:15 | 0:34:17 | |
so he won a default judgment for the full cost of the car and the repairs | 0:34:17 | 0:34:21 | |
he'd made at his own expense. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:23 | |
They still haven't paid. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
So now David's put the sheriffs on the case. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
It's a necessity and it's got to be done, | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
otherwise I've no other way of getting the money back anyway. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:36 | |
In south London, Lawrence and Kev are about to pay Prestige Car Sales a visit. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
I'm hoping the dealers are still here, for a start, | 0:34:47 | 0:34:50 | |
and I'm hoping they have some assets and some cars worth some value. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:54 | |
As they approach, it appears the garage is tucked away behind the main high street. | 0:34:56 | 0:35:00 | |
They head in to make their introductions. | 0:35:02 | 0:35:05 | |
Are you all right, mate? | 0:35:05 | 0:35:06 | |
Are you the owner? | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
-Is the owner about? -Sorry? | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
Is the owner about? My colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
We've got a High Court writ against Prestige Car Sales. | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
We are ordered out by the High Court today to take control of goods | 0:35:19 | 0:35:22 | |
to be sold at auction and clear the debt. | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
Sorry, are you the owner, are you? | 0:35:25 | 0:35:27 | |
Sorry, he just said you weren't here. | 0:35:27 | 0:35:29 | |
So... I'll show you some ID. My name is Mr Griggs. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:35 | |
The boss is here after all. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
Now Lawrence has to explain the whole thing all over again. | 0:35:37 | 0:35:40 | |
We are ordered out by High Court today to take control of goods to the value of £3,958.28 | 0:35:40 | 0:35:46 | |
Those goods can be sold at auction to clear the debt. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
The boss leads them into the back. | 0:35:50 | 0:35:52 | |
Basically, the only way to prevent further action today is to pay in full. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
The garage extends behind the row of shops and is actually much larger | 0:35:57 | 0:36:01 | |
than it appeared from the street. | 0:36:01 | 0:36:03 | |
But we don't get to admire the stock for long. | 0:36:03 | 0:36:05 | |
-CAMERAMAN: -We'll wait outside. -All right. -Our camera is sent outside. | 0:36:10 | 0:36:13 | |
Indoors, Lawrence explains that if the owner doesn't come up with the | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
nearly £4,000 the court demands, | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
then he'll have no choice but to leave with at least one of Prestige Cars Sales' vehicles. | 0:36:23 | 0:36:28 | |
The boss isn't happy and says he has applied to get the judgment set aside | 0:36:29 | 0:36:34 | |
but he doesn't yet even have a court date. | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
-He knows all about it. -He's actually got the car here. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:39 | |
So I don't know why he's got the car here and hasn't paid it. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
He's actually going back to court at some point. | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
He hasn't got a date for that yet but he will be going back to court. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:50 | |
Lawrence has told him the best course of action is to pay up now | 0:36:50 | 0:36:54 | |
and try to challenge it later. | 0:36:54 | 0:36:56 | |
It sounds like that's what he's going to do. | 0:36:56 | 0:36:58 | |
He knows he's got to pay it, so he's going to get a card from one of his | 0:36:58 | 0:37:02 | |
colleagues in there and they're going to pay for it. | 0:37:02 | 0:37:05 | |
The sheriffs have been on site for a mere 20 minutes | 0:37:06 | 0:37:10 | |
when associates of the owner arrive. | 0:37:10 | 0:37:13 | |
Between them they produce a card, and Lawrence takes a payment for the full £3,958 owed. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:21 | |
It all went fairly smoothly. | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
They will, undoubtedly, take some legal action, I would think, | 0:37:24 | 0:37:27 | |
to stop the money being paid out until they've had the hearing. | 0:37:27 | 0:37:30 | |
At the end of the day, we've been paid and that's all we're worried about. | 0:37:30 | 0:37:34 | |
In the end, Prestige Car Sales' application to get the judgment set aside | 0:37:34 | 0:37:39 | |
came to nothing. The case never did go back to court, | 0:37:39 | 0:37:42 | |
and five months after buying the car, | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
David Goddard has got his money back. | 0:37:44 | 0:37:47 | |
I'm very pleased that the outcome is in our favour and we have received | 0:37:47 | 0:37:52 | |
our money back. It is great. Brilliant. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:56 | |
Sheriffs are now officially known as High Court enforcement agents, | 0:37:56 | 0:38:00 | |
and they'll collect the money you're owed. | 0:38:00 | 0:38:03 | |
My job is to collect in full or remove goods. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:06 | |
They've got more powers of entry than bailiffs. | 0:38:06 | 0:38:08 | |
We don't have to take any notice of your security protocol, I'm afraid. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
And there's no limit on the size of the debts they can pursue. | 0:38:11 | 0:38:15 | |
£1.6 million. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:17 | |
Their fees are set by the government, | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
which debtors have to pay on top of what they already owe. | 0:38:19 | 0:38:23 | |
Thank you very much. See you later. | 0:38:23 | 0:38:25 | |
If the sheriffs can't recover any of your money, | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
there's a fee of £75 plus VAT. | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
Ken is in Dunstable, near Luton, on his way to a trading estate. | 0:38:41 | 0:38:46 | |
We're going to visit a large furniture store, SCS. | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
The original debt is just over £2,000. | 0:38:52 | 0:38:55 | |
Ken's attending on behalf of a customer who bought a recliner sofa, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:01 | |
but the leather finish began to peel off. | 0:39:01 | 0:39:04 | |
When she asked the store for her money back, | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
she was instead offered an alternative sofa at a reduced prize. | 0:39:08 | 0:39:12 | |
She wasn't happy and despite the Citizens Advice Bureau intervening on her behalf, | 0:39:13 | 0:39:17 | |
they couldn't come to an agreement. | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
So she took SCS to court, and when they didn't offer a defence, | 0:39:21 | 0:39:25 | |
was awarded a default judgment. | 0:39:25 | 0:39:28 | |
Ken's not expecting them to remember. | 0:39:28 | 0:39:31 | |
I'll give them enough time to try and find out exactly who the claimant is. | 0:39:31 | 0:39:35 | |
The chances are, they'll need to speak to the head office because this is just one of their branches. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:41 | |
But given the stock he knows will be on site, | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
he's not going to take no for an answer. | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
They'll have more than enough assets to cover the debt here. | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
Pick one of about 40 three-piece suites, if you like. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:53 | |
Sometimes, sheriffs go direct to the company's head office. | 0:39:53 | 0:39:57 | |
But they're entitled to enforce anywhere the debtor has assets. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:03 | |
This is one of a dozen or so stores they've got up and down the country. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:07 | |
However, the notice of enforcement would have come to this address. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:12 | |
-It's the address on the writ, so Ken heads on. -Hello. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
SCS, I'd like to speak to the person in charge. | 0:40:20 | 0:40:22 | |
My name's Mr Warby. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
It doesn't take the man long to realise he's not about to make a sale. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
We're asked to leave while Ken starts the process of getting | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
through to someone with the power to pay up. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
This is as I thought it would be. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:38 | |
A big company, just spoken to the store manager. | 0:40:38 | 0:40:41 | |
He doesn't know who this person is. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
So he's now contacting his head office. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:46 | |
It's a small-ish debt, really, to a company this size | 0:40:46 | 0:40:49 | |
and I'll give them a bit of time. | 0:40:49 | 0:40:51 | |
There's only going to be one outcome, I want the money for my client, that's it. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:57 | |
The manager is off the phone and Ken heads back inside to talk to him. | 0:40:57 | 0:41:01 | |
Do you want me up there? I'll come up there. | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
How do I get up there? | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
Some progress has been made. | 0:41:08 | 0:41:09 | |
The company's head office in Sunderland are now aware of Ken eyeing up | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
their sofas and have said they're looking into it. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:16 | |
I spoke to a lady, nice lady. | 0:41:17 | 0:41:19 | |
I did tell her we need to get this resolved today. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:23 | |
This manager is going to fax over a copy of the actual | 0:41:23 | 0:41:29 | |
writ of control. So... | 0:41:29 | 0:41:31 | |
..it's just a question of waiting at the moment. | 0:41:33 | 0:41:35 | |
With nothing else he can do, | 0:41:37 | 0:41:38 | |
Ken has a quick sit down and his thoughts turn momentarily to his own living room. | 0:41:38 | 0:41:43 | |
This sofa is really nice, actually. | 0:41:45 | 0:41:47 | |
It reclines a treat. | 0:41:47 | 0:41:49 | |
The one I'm looking for, really, is on a button, an electric button. | 0:41:49 | 0:41:53 | |
If I can get one like that... | 0:41:53 | 0:41:55 | |
I'm not sure I'll get a discount here, somehow. | 0:41:55 | 0:41:58 | |
Finally, however, the manager is back | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
and an hour-and-a-half after he arrived, Ken's done. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:04 | |
Head office are going to pay. | 0:42:04 | 0:42:06 | |
A controlled goods agreement has been signed and, yeah, a successful job. | 0:42:06 | 0:42:11 | |
The customer has finally got her money back. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:13 | |
SCS might be a few thousand down on the day, | 0:42:14 | 0:42:17 | |
but after Ken spent the morning trying out every sofa in the shop, | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
they might have a new customer to make up for it. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:23 | |
The grey one was rather nice. | 0:42:25 | 0:42:28 | |
I did say to them, next time I come in, if I'm not holding my clipboard, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:30 | |
maybe we can do some business. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
SCS told us the customer's sofa was inspected by... | 0:42:33 | 0:42:38 | |
The sheriffs are used to dealing with all manner of obstacles | 0:43:06 | 0:43:09 | |
in order to get debts paid, | 0:43:09 | 0:43:11 | |
but once in a while their mettle is really tested and it's not always | 0:43:11 | 0:43:14 | |
possible to get the outcome they want. | 0:43:14 | 0:43:17 | |
In Burnley, Alan Pennington is on his way to see a second-hand car business | 0:43:17 | 0:43:22 | |
called East Lancs Cars and Commercials Ltd, | 0:43:22 | 0:43:25 | |
who've been taken to court by a customer. | 0:43:25 | 0:43:28 | |
The claimant had stated that they'd bought a Suzuki, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:33 | |
and they've had nothing but faults on the car, | 0:43:33 | 0:43:37 | |
and a new MOT was promised and that didn't happen. | 0:43:37 | 0:43:41 | |
The claimant won her case by default | 0:43:42 | 0:43:44 | |
after the dealer didn't offer a defence. | 0:43:44 | 0:43:47 | |
Now Alan's on his way there to see if he can recover £2,285 owed. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:52 | |
But when he arrives, | 0:43:54 | 0:43:55 | |
there's a different name on the signs outside the business. | 0:43:55 | 0:43:58 | |
East Lancs Van Sales. | 0:43:58 | 0:44:00 | |
As this is the address on his writ, | 0:44:00 | 0:44:02 | |
and where the claimant bought their car, he heads in anyway. | 0:44:02 | 0:44:06 | |
There are certainly assets here. | 0:44:06 | 0:44:08 | |
Now all he needs to do is find the boss, Shaun Cosgrove. | 0:44:08 | 0:44:12 | |
Hello. Mr Cosgrove? | 0:44:13 | 0:44:16 | |
Is he here? | 0:44:17 | 0:44:18 | |
No matter, Alan's here to do his job whether the boss is in or not. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:25 | |
I'm an enforcement agent. I'm here with a High Court writ. | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
For East Lancs Car and Commercials Ltd. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:30 | |
East Lancs Vans? | 0:44:33 | 0:44:34 | |
It might sound similar, but it's not who Alan's looking for, | 0:44:35 | 0:44:39 | |
so he needs to find out whether East Lancs Vans is just a trading name | 0:44:39 | 0:44:43 | |
the debtor uses, or if it really is a different company. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:47 | |
Is Shaun Cosgrove still in charge, is he? | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
Brian? | 0:44:51 | 0:44:52 | |
And Brian is soon on the phone. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:56 | |
My name's Mr Pennington from the High Court Sheriffs Office. | 0:44:56 | 0:44:59 | |
I'm looking for a Shaun Cosgrove. | 0:44:59 | 0:45:01 | |
The man says that's not him. | 0:45:02 | 0:45:05 | |
Yeah, but what's your name, then? | 0:45:05 | 0:45:07 | |
Alan's told he doesn't need to know. | 0:45:07 | 0:45:09 | |
Well, I do want to get the bottom of it, don't I? | 0:45:11 | 0:45:14 | |
Brian is refusing to give his full name. | 0:45:14 | 0:45:17 | |
He also says none of the vehicles here belong to East Lancs Car and Commercials Ltd. | 0:45:17 | 0:45:22 | |
Who are they owned by? Who are they owned by? | 0:45:23 | 0:45:25 | |
Again, Brian won't say. | 0:45:25 | 0:45:28 | |
You're trading as East Lancs Van Sales, aren't you? | 0:45:28 | 0:45:30 | |
So you're going to have some paperwork. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:32 | |
If you're trading as East Lancs Van Sales, | 0:45:32 | 0:45:34 | |
you will have a Companies House number, won't you? | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
Brian isn't giving anything away. | 0:45:37 | 0:45:39 | |
So Alan tries to find out for himself. | 0:45:39 | 0:45:41 | |
He heads into their office and begins examining their paperwork. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
As a High Court enforcement agent, Alan is acting well within his powers. | 0:45:50 | 0:45:54 | |
Right. High Court writ, all stamped, OK? | 0:45:58 | 0:46:01 | |
All I want him to do - Brian - is to be helpful to me and I'll go away. | 0:46:06 | 0:46:10 | |
But then Alan finds a clue. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:13 | |
I've just seen one of your receipts. | 0:46:13 | 0:46:16 | |
East Lancs Car and Commercials. | 0:46:16 | 0:46:18 | |
That suggests the debtor company is still trading here, | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
but unfortunately the receipt isn't for a vehicle, | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
so it isn't much help in terms of finding valuable assets. | 0:46:25 | 0:46:29 | |
Receipts for those are apparently with Brian. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:31 | |
Why don't you bring them down and show me so I can go away? | 0:46:33 | 0:46:37 | |
-Why are you being awkward? -Awkward is an understatement. | 0:46:37 | 0:46:40 | |
Brian tells Alan to go ahead and order a low-loader to remove vehicles to | 0:46:40 | 0:46:44 | |
cover the debt. But he says when it arrives he'll turn up with proof | 0:46:44 | 0:46:49 | |
they don't belong to the debtor company, so can't be taken. | 0:46:49 | 0:46:53 | |
The only way Alan can find out if he's telling the truth is to call his bluff. | 0:46:53 | 0:46:58 | |
It might well prove to be a waste of time, | 0:46:58 | 0:47:01 | |
but Alan's job is to do whatever he can to get the claimant's money back. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:05 | |
So it's the only option left. | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
The office is ringing for a low-loader now, | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
so I'm just going to check the size of the vehicles | 0:47:10 | 0:47:12 | |
to see which ones we can take. | 0:47:12 | 0:47:15 | |
Calling the low-loader unleashes | 0:47:15 | 0:47:17 | |
a bout of activity inside the car yard. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:20 | |
The staff are removing car keys from the office, | 0:47:20 | 0:47:23 | |
the shutters to the unit have been rolled down | 0:47:23 | 0:47:25 | |
and they're blocking the exit to the yard. | 0:47:25 | 0:47:28 | |
-OVER PHONE: -'Welcome to Lancashire Police.' | 0:47:28 | 0:47:31 | |
Alan's calling for back-up. | 0:47:31 | 0:47:33 | |
I need some police assistance, please. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:35 | |
The atmosphere is getting tense. | 0:47:38 | 0:47:40 | |
A large number of people are gathering, and the barricade | 0:47:40 | 0:47:43 | |
to the car yard is growing. Even a dog has been added to the mix. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:47 | |
The low-loader arrives. | 0:47:49 | 0:47:50 | |
This thing here, will that take that bollard away? | 0:47:52 | 0:47:55 | |
So do the police. | 0:47:58 | 0:48:00 | |
Basically, there's the High Court writ with the stamp on it, OK? | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
And then this guy turns up. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:06 | |
What's your name? | 0:48:08 | 0:48:10 | |
Is your name Shaun Cosgrave? | 0:48:10 | 0:48:11 | |
Which vans? | 0:48:17 | 0:48:19 | |
I'm not taking them. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:21 | |
There's a van inside. | 0:48:21 | 0:48:23 | |
This is what I asked | 0:48:29 | 0:48:30 | |
over an hour-and-a-half ago and no-one bothered... | 0:48:30 | 0:48:33 | |
So Brian's rang you, has he? | 0:48:35 | 0:48:36 | |
Alan can only take control of assets if they belong to the debtor. | 0:48:39 | 0:48:43 | |
So if the man really does have invoices in a different company name, | 0:48:43 | 0:48:47 | |
then the vans can't be removed. | 0:48:47 | 0:48:49 | |
Soon another man arrives with a bundle of paperwork. | 0:48:51 | 0:48:55 | |
Shall we go in the office, Mr Whatever-Your-Name-Is? | 0:48:55 | 0:48:58 | |
Inside the office, it's just as Alan feared it would be. | 0:48:59 | 0:49:03 | |
The invoices show that the cars belong not the debtor, | 0:49:03 | 0:49:06 | |
East Lancs Car and Commercials Ltd, but to a company called | 0:49:06 | 0:49:10 | |
Used-car Sales (Colne) Ltd. | 0:49:10 | 0:49:12 | |
Shaun Cosgrove is the director of both, | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
but they're separate legal entities. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:17 | |
Alan is going to have to leave without payment, and the frustration shows. | 0:49:19 | 0:49:23 | |
I think he just basically wanted to waste my time. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
He knew what he was going to do. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
He basically said to me, "You do what you need to do and when you arrive, | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
"I'll show you the paperwork." | 0:49:32 | 0:49:34 | |
He's messed my time, he's messed the police's time, | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
simply because he knew it was going to cost the sheriffs money | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
and not cost him anything. | 0:49:40 | 0:49:43 | |
On this occasion, persistence hasn't paid off, | 0:49:43 | 0:49:46 | |
but for the sheriffs, a thick skin is part of the job description. | 0:49:46 | 0:49:49 | |
I suppose it's the way things happen. You win some, you lose some. | 0:49:49 | 0:49:53 | |
As East Lancs Cars and Commercials Ltd doesn't appear to have any | 0:49:53 | 0:49:57 | |
assets that can be removed to cover its debt, | 0:49:57 | 0:50:00 | |
there's nothing more that can be done to get the claimant's money back. | 0:50:00 | 0:50:04 | |
Disputes between landlords and tenants are all too common. | 0:50:15 | 0:50:19 | |
Today, Lawrence and Kev are about to enforce a writ in a case where a | 0:50:21 | 0:50:25 | |
disagreement over a property | 0:50:25 | 0:50:27 | |
ended up being decided by the courts. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
It's ten o'clock in the morning. | 0:50:30 | 0:50:33 | |
Romford, we're heading to. | 0:50:33 | 0:50:34 | |
We're going to go and find a Dr Soumyo Gorai. | 0:50:34 | 0:50:39 | |
Dr Gorai was taken to court by a former tenant who claims they were | 0:50:40 | 0:50:44 | |
unfairly evicted from the property. | 0:50:44 | 0:50:46 | |
And according to the information we have, | 0:50:47 | 0:50:50 | |
he proceeded to rent the property out to someone else | 0:50:50 | 0:50:53 | |
with all our client's property and personal belongings still in there. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
The tenant claims they never got their stuff back, and took the case | 0:50:58 | 0:51:02 | |
to court to recover their costs. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:04 | |
They won a default judgment in their favour for £5,000, | 0:51:04 | 0:51:08 | |
some of which has now been paid. | 0:51:08 | 0:51:10 | |
But Kev and Lawrence are here for the rest. | 0:51:10 | 0:51:13 | |
He owes £1,670. | 0:51:13 | 0:51:16 | |
The sheriffs are arriving at what they believe | 0:51:20 | 0:51:22 | |
is Dr Gorai's home address | 0:51:22 | 0:51:24 | |
and they've spotted a black BMW they think is his. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:27 | |
Yeah, that's it, yeah. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:31 | |
The sheriffs have already done checks on a licence plate number | 0:51:31 | 0:51:34 | |
they've been supplied to confirm the BMW was free from finance | 0:51:34 | 0:51:38 | |
and so could be removed. | 0:51:38 | 0:51:40 | |
-But there is a problem. -We have got it slightly wrong. | 0:51:40 | 0:51:42 | |
We were given the wrong number, were we? | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
One of the digits is different from what the sheriffs have been told. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:49 | |
Right, so we haven't got a result on it, then, have we? | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
That means they don't know whether | 0:51:53 | 0:51:55 | |
this car is clear of finance after all. | 0:51:55 | 0:51:58 | |
Lawrence heads to the house to see if the doctor is home. | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
They try the bell but there's no answer. | 0:52:04 | 0:52:07 | |
Lawrence looks for any sign of life. | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
Anything in the letterbox that could confirm that he lives here. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:14 | |
-There's one for him. -It's addressed here, is it? | 0:52:14 | 0:52:18 | |
And another one and another one. And another one. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:22 | |
So the sheriffs are in the right place, but is the debtor here today? | 0:52:22 | 0:52:26 | |
With barbed wire on top of the wall, they won't be climbing over. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:35 | |
While Lawrence takes a closer look at the car, | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
Ken tries the neighbours. | 0:52:38 | 0:52:39 | |
I wonder if you could help me. Do you know if it's Dr Gorai living next door? | 0:52:39 | 0:52:43 | |
But they don't seem to know. | 0:52:43 | 0:52:45 | |
All right, no worries. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
It looks like this could be a wasted trip. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
We've just had to leave paperwork. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
It's unfortunate | 0:52:52 | 0:52:54 | |
that we were given the wrong registration for the vehicle. | 0:52:54 | 0:52:57 | |
It wouldn't have mattered whether they were in or not, | 0:52:57 | 0:53:00 | |
we'd have taken the car. | 0:53:00 | 0:53:02 | |
So we'll have to hope now that either he gets in touch and pays, | 0:53:02 | 0:53:06 | |
or the car is still here when we come back, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
if he doesn't get in touch. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:10 | |
-Hold up. -I have my suspicions about that... Ah. | 0:53:10 | 0:53:13 | |
But just as hope of getting debt paid is fading, | 0:53:14 | 0:53:18 | |
a car pulls into the drive. | 0:53:18 | 0:53:21 | |
It's Dr Gorai. | 0:53:21 | 0:53:23 | |
Once he's stepped out of the car, | 0:53:23 | 0:53:25 | |
Lawrence takes the opportunity to acquire his car keys. | 0:53:25 | 0:53:28 | |
It won't be worth as much as the BMW, but it's something. | 0:53:28 | 0:53:33 | |
My name is Mr Griggs, my colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:53:33 | 0:53:36 | |
We're here today with a High Court writ. | 0:53:36 | 0:53:38 | |
The total outstanding is £1,670.16 | 0:53:38 | 0:53:42 | |
We're ordered here today by the High Court to take control of goods | 0:53:42 | 0:53:45 | |
to clear that debt, unless you pay in full. | 0:53:45 | 0:53:48 | |
-I can pay in full. -If you give me the account details, | 0:53:48 | 0:53:50 | |
-I will transfer it straight away. -OK. | 0:53:50 | 0:53:54 | |
Dr Gorai has immediately offered to settle the bill, | 0:53:54 | 0:53:57 | |
so why didn't he pay earlier? | 0:53:57 | 0:53:59 | |
Your letters don't give us any account details. | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
No, but it gives you details of how you can get in touch with us to make | 0:54:02 | 0:54:05 | |
-the payment, doesn't it? -But without account details, how can I make a payment? | 0:54:05 | 0:54:08 | |
Right, that's something you need to take up with the Ministry of Justice, sir, | 0:54:08 | 0:54:12 | |
because the forms are prescribed forms by the Ministry of Justice. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
-Yeah? -Yeah. | 0:54:15 | 0:54:16 | |
And Lawrence is happy to provide all the details Dr Gorai needs. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:21 | |
It's that sort code, that account number. | 0:54:21 | 0:54:24 | |
It needs to be done as an immediate payment. | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
If you do that, then I'll check with my office, and providing | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
the money has gone into the account, we will issue you a receipt, | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
you can have your keys back and we'll be on our way. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:35 | |
Without my keys, I can't get into my property. | 0:54:35 | 0:54:37 | |
-That's a car key, sir. -My house key is in the boot of the car. | 0:54:37 | 0:54:41 | |
Lawrence doesn't want to give the car keys back, | 0:54:41 | 0:54:45 | |
but opens the boot for him. | 0:54:45 | 0:54:47 | |
Dr Gorai unlocks the house | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
and starts to get some things from the car. | 0:54:52 | 0:54:54 | |
But he's left the front door open, so Kev steps in, | 0:54:54 | 0:54:58 | |
closely followed by Lawrence. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:00 | |
-Can you wait outside? -No, my colleague is already inside, sir. | 0:55:00 | 0:55:03 | |
We'll come in while you make the payment. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:06 | |
Is that what you... | 0:55:06 | 0:55:08 | |
The sheriffs are legally allowed to walk through an open door | 0:55:08 | 0:55:11 | |
into a residential premises. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
Once inside, they can't be told to leave. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:15 | |
But ten minutes later, | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
the sheriffs are back out of their own accord | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
with their every move filmed by the debtor, | 0:55:22 | 0:55:25 | |
who is also willing to volunteer his side of the story. | 0:55:25 | 0:55:28 | |
This was regarding a tenant of mine | 0:55:30 | 0:55:33 | |
who stayed in my property for seven months without paying rent, | 0:55:33 | 0:55:38 | |
trashed my property, | 0:55:38 | 0:55:40 | |
kept a snake in the property, | 0:55:40 | 0:55:42 | |
kept rats in the property, | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
completely trashed my garden. | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
Dr Gorai claims the tenants left of their own accord | 0:55:47 | 0:55:50 | |
when he chased them for the rent. | 0:55:50 | 0:55:52 | |
Then I used my keys to get into the property and there | 0:55:52 | 0:55:55 | |
were some goods left in the property. | 0:55:55 | 0:55:59 | |
When we changed the locks for the front door, | 0:55:59 | 0:56:01 | |
they then went to the court and tried to get money back | 0:56:01 | 0:56:04 | |
for the £5,000 of goods that they thought I had stolen from them, | 0:56:04 | 0:56:09 | |
which we had kept for them for some time | 0:56:09 | 0:56:11 | |
but they didn't come to collect it, | 0:56:11 | 0:56:12 | |
and when they didn't come to collect it, | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
we had to dispose of the goods | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
because we didn't want to touch their goods. | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
But the court ruled in the tenants' favour, and ordered Dr Gorai | 0:56:19 | 0:56:23 | |
to pay them £5,000, which he hasn't done. | 0:56:23 | 0:56:26 | |
Dr Gorai admits he received a demand for payment | 0:56:26 | 0:56:29 | |
from the sheriffs, | 0:56:29 | 0:56:31 | |
but didn't think he'd been given enough information. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:34 | |
There was no bank account, | 0:56:34 | 0:56:36 | |
there was no address to where the payment had to be made, | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
there was just a telephone number, | 0:56:39 | 0:56:42 | |
and our experience of telephone numbers is very bad. | 0:56:42 | 0:56:45 | |
He gave me the details today and I paid within ten minutes. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:50 | |
It's a much better outcome than the sheriffs anticipated. | 0:56:51 | 0:56:55 | |
That went very well. We were basically about to leave because we couldn't get an answer. | 0:56:57 | 0:57:02 | |
But he did pay fairly quickly. | 0:57:02 | 0:57:05 | |
He was a bit awkward, as some people tend to be. | 0:57:05 | 0:57:08 | |
We showed him ID when he pulled up on his driveway | 0:57:08 | 0:57:11 | |
but then he was wanting to see it again. | 0:57:11 | 0:57:13 | |
He didn't want to sign the receipt, either. | 0:57:13 | 0:57:16 | |
It doesn't matter to us, we've got the payment. So job done. | 0:57:16 | 0:57:20 | |
And that means the tenant whose property went missing | 0:57:20 | 0:57:23 | |
will get the money the court said they were owed. | 0:57:23 | 0:57:27 |