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If you're owed money, but aren't getting paid, | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
it's time to call the sheriffs. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
My name's Mr Grix. My colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:00:07 | 0:00:09 | |
I'm here to issue a High Court writ. | 0:00:09 | 0:00:11 | |
I've got to do what I'm instructed to by the courts. | 0:00:11 | 0:00:13 | |
They're enforcement agents of the High Court. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:15 | |
KNOCK ON DOOR | 0:00:15 | 0:00:16 | |
And if a court's ruled in your favour, they're on your side. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:20 | |
If the debtor doesn't want to pay... | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
You currently owe ?9,461.80. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
..the law says the sheriffs can get you what you're owed. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:30 | |
If you don't come to the door, we have to remove the vehicle off the drive. | 0:00:30 | 0:00:33 | |
You're allowed a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Whether it's a small company... | 0:00:36 | 0:00:37 | |
Can I speak to the person in charge, please? | 0:00:37 | 0:00:39 | |
..or a household name... | 0:00:39 | 0:00:41 | |
We're here to see somebody from G4S. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:42 | |
..if they owe you money, the sheriffs get it paid. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:45 | |
I'm not going anywhere. You get him to come in here. | 0:00:45 | 0:00:48 | |
We're not going to be waiting round like that. It needs to be done now. | 0:00:48 | 0:00:51 | |
Just collected 42 grand. | 0:00:51 | 0:00:52 | |
Coming up... | 0:00:55 | 0:00:56 | |
Simon Pruce wasn't told the whole story | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
when he bought a second-hand car. | 0:00:59 | 0:01:01 | |
The fuse box was damaged and the instrument panel was also damaged. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:06 | |
I wasn't prepared to drive a car that was unsafe. | 0:01:06 | 0:01:08 | |
It was sold to him by a limo hire firm. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Can Lawrence and Kev get them to pay? | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
There's hundreds of thousands of pounds' worth here. | 0:01:13 | 0:01:15 | |
If not going into the millions. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:17 | |
Sheriff Chris Pearson visits a mattress company which owes | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
compensation to a former worker. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
Not as far as I'm aware. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
And a clothing business is trying Lawrence's patience. | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
No, I know somebody's in there. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:32 | |
If nobody comes out and speaks to me, I will effect entry into the building. | 0:01:32 | 0:01:36 | |
But can he get the owner's attention? | 0:01:36 | 0:01:38 | |
Anybody here capable of backing up the computers? | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
Because I'm going to start unplugging them. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
In the south-east, enforcement agents Lawrence Grix and Kev McNally | 0:01:47 | 0:01:51 | |
are en route to their first job of the day. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
They're looking for a company specialising in limousine hire, | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
which has an unpaid debt. | 0:01:57 | 0:01:59 | |
This morning, we are in Northfleet, in Kent. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:02 | |
We're going to Wild Stretch Limousines Limited. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:05 | |
The amount we're looking for is ?1,982. | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
So, we're getting there early-ish, eight o'clock. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:13 | |
Should be open then, hopefully. | 0:02:13 | 0:02:15 | |
The debt actually stems from a matter unrelated to the company's | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
luxury transport fleet. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
Its boss sold a second-hand car, | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
which later turned out to have problems. | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
The buyer was Simon Pruce, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
a physiotherapist with a keen interest in motor racing. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:33 | |
I started motor racing in karts. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
And I moved into Formula Ford racing. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:38 | |
But I'm very fond of anything that has a motor in it. | 0:02:41 | 0:02:44 | |
Motorbikes or cars, both on the track and off. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:49 | |
Mr Pruce came across Wild Stretch Limousines | 0:02:49 | 0:02:51 | |
when he was looking for a newer Ford C-Max car, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
to replace the one he'd been using to tow his racing car. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
He found one advertised on eBay, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
and went to see it at the home of the seller, a Mr Hunt. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
When I first saw the car, I had some misgivings. | 0:03:04 | 0:03:06 | |
Erm...the first thing I noted was that the seat was wet, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:11 | |
and that there certainly seemed to be water coming through the sunroof. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:14 | |
I mentioned this, and it was explained that the car had | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
been parked in Mr Hunt's garden over the winter, under the trees, | 0:03:17 | 0:03:23 | |
and it had gathered a lot of leaves and crud on the roof, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:26 | |
so they had jet-washed it prior to me looking at her. | 0:03:26 | 0:03:29 | |
Which seemed perfectly reasonable. | 0:03:29 | 0:03:31 | |
Satisfied with what he'd been told, | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
Simon thought the car might be what he was looking for. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
We test-drove her for probably no more than five to ten minutes. | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
The car wasn't perfect, but the price was reasonable. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:43 | |
I made a deal with the guy and bought it. | 0:03:43 | 0:03:45 | |
He gave me an invoice from a company called Wild Stretch Limousines, | 0:03:47 | 0:03:50 | |
and gave me a three-month warranty. | 0:03:50 | 0:03:52 | |
The car cost ?1,800 and, at first, Simon was pleased with his purchase. | 0:03:54 | 0:04:00 | |
But after only a few days he began to notice problems. | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
The handbrake warning light would either not go off | 0:04:05 | 0:04:08 | |
or wouldn't come on. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:09 | |
The radio worked when it felt like it. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:12 | |
I was concerned with the road safety element, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
because the indicators didn't seem to work when I wanted them to. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:18 | |
It subsequently turned out that the sunroof leaked very badly | 0:04:18 | 0:04:22 | |
and the inside of the car was very wet | 0:04:22 | 0:04:25 | |
and had clearly affected the electrics. | 0:04:25 | 0:04:27 | |
The car needed a lot of work, and Simon wasn't best pleased. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
This made me fairly angry | 0:04:31 | 0:04:33 | |
because I wasn't prepared to drive a car that was unsafe and dangerous | 0:04:33 | 0:04:37 | |
on the roads, both to myself and my family and to other road users. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:41 | |
But, nevertheless, in the initial stages, Mr Hunt seemed responsive | 0:04:41 | 0:04:45 | |
to my questions about the car and seemed willing to help. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
In fact, Mr Hunt offered to make the repairs at his expense. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
Only it wasn't that simple. | 0:04:52 | 0:04:55 | |
He had the car back, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:56 | |
returned it to me and said he'd fixed all the problems, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
but...nothing had changed. | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
The sunroof still leaked and the electrics still worked | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
when they felt like it. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:04 | |
He had it back a second time. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
This time, he did fix the leaking sunroof, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
but the electrics were still faulty. | 0:05:10 | 0:05:13 | |
He agreed with me to engage a professional auto electrician | 0:05:13 | 0:05:17 | |
to look at the car, and he said he would pay for that. | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
But I never heard from him again. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
It was only some time later that I suddenly realised that | 0:05:23 | 0:05:29 | |
he stopped communicating with me the moment 12 weeks had passed. | 0:05:29 | 0:05:34 | |
So, therefore, he obviously felt that he had complied | 0:05:34 | 0:05:37 | |
with his three-month warranty. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:39 | |
The auto electrician did inspect the car, although Simon paid for it. | 0:05:39 | 0:05:44 | |
The findings were even worse than he had feared. | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
The report stated that the fuse box was damaged | 0:05:47 | 0:05:51 | |
and the instrument panel was also damaged | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
and that both would need replacing. | 0:05:54 | 0:05:57 | |
The car would cost in the region of ?1,200 to repair. | 0:05:57 | 0:06:01 | |
With Mr Hunt no longer responding to | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
any of Simon's attempts to contract him, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
the only way he could recover his costs was through legal action. | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
I saw no reason why I shouldn't take him to court and recover the money | 0:06:10 | 0:06:16 | |
that was going to need to be spent in order to put the car right. | 0:06:16 | 0:06:19 | |
Simon found the process fairly simple, and made a claim against | 0:06:19 | 0:06:23 | |
Wild Stretch Limousines Limited for the full cost of repairs. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:27 | |
They responded by filing a defence to the court. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:30 | |
But for Simon, its contents were rather surprising. | 0:06:30 | 0:06:34 | |
It stated quite clearly that Wild Stretch Limousines | 0:06:34 | 0:06:37 | |
are a limousine hire company, and do not sell cars. | 0:06:37 | 0:06:40 | |
"We did not sell this car," and then he signed it at the bottom. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:45 | |
The signature on that form was exactly the same signature | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
as we'd got on the used car sales invoice. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
Simon wrote to Mr Hunt to point this out, but received no reply. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
When the court date came around, | 0:06:55 | 0:06:57 | |
no-one from Wild Stretch Limousines attended. | 0:06:57 | 0:07:00 | |
The judge simply awarded the sums required, plus the expenses, to me. | 0:07:00 | 0:07:07 | |
And gave Wild Stretch Limousines ten days to pay. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:10 | |
They didn't, and so Simon escalated the case to the High Court. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:15 | |
We've watched the programmes on television. | 0:07:15 | 0:07:17 | |
So I knew the process existed. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:19 | |
And now it's down to the sheriffs to collect. | 0:07:19 | 0:07:23 | |
The sheriffs are my last hope to get the money in order to fix the car. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:26 | |
Lawrence and Kev are on their way to Wild Stretch Limousines. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:35 | |
They've got a High Court writ, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
which empowers them to get Simon's money back. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
It turns out, Lawrence isn't normally a limousine kind of guy. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:44 | |
I've never been in a limousine. | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
Long, useless, cumbersome things. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:47 | |
No appeal to me, to be honest. | 0:07:47 | 0:07:49 | |
Though today might be different. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:51 | |
They're worth quite a bit of money, and... HE LAUGHS | 0:07:51 | 0:07:54 | |
..there might be some there for us to take control of, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
that's the appeal of 'em. | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
The sheriffs are approaching the address on their writ. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:02 | |
There it is. | 0:08:02 | 0:08:03 | |
And it looks like Lawrence is right about the assets. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
He's got loads of limousines, hasn't he? | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
Cars as long as trucks are parked all over the place. | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
Looks like he's taken the opportunity to park | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
the things everywhere, doesn't it? Anywhere and everywhere. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
He's got a lot of them, ain't there? | 0:08:17 | 0:08:20 | |
The sheriffs park up and head for the unit named on the writ. | 0:08:20 | 0:08:24 | |
Cheers, mate. | 0:08:25 | 0:08:26 | |
Morning. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:30 | |
Do you work here? Are you the owner, by any chance? No. | 0:08:30 | 0:08:33 | |
No? Is he in? Not at the moment. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
I'll show you some ID. My name's Mr Grix. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:37 | |
My colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:39 | |
We've got a High Court writ to execute against | 0:08:39 | 0:08:42 | |
Wild Stretch Limousines. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
The man's an employee, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:45 | |
so gets the boss on the phone and breaks the bad news. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:48 | |
I don't know. What's it for? The creditor is a Simon Pruce. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:57 | |
Yeah, yeah, hang on. It's Paul. | 0:08:57 | 0:08:59 | |
The man on the phone isn't Mr Hunt, but another of the company bosses. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:03 | |
Lawrence gives him the lowdown. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
We're here today to take control of goods to the value of ?1,982.49. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:12 | |
So, basically, to prevent that happening, somebody needs to pay in full. | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
So, just under two grand. | 0:09:17 | 0:09:19 | |
The boss asks for more time. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
Lawrence isn't having any of it. | 0:09:21 | 0:09:23 | |
It needs to be today, sir. | 0:09:23 | 0:09:25 | |
Unfortunately for you, | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
you've got loads of goods here that we can take control of | 0:09:27 | 0:09:29 | |
to sell to raise the money, | 0:09:29 | 0:09:31 | |
which is what we're commanded to do by the writ. | 0:09:31 | 0:09:33 | |
Faced with the threat of removal, the boss offers to pay, | 0:09:33 | 0:09:37 | |
but only half of the amount owed. | 0:09:37 | 0:09:39 | |
No, it needs to be all of it, sir. | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
No, sorry, sir. Has to be payment in full. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:45 | |
We're not bailiffs, sir. We're not bailiffs. | 0:09:45 | 0:09:47 | |
We're here with a High Court writ that commands us to take control | 0:09:47 | 0:09:50 | |
of goods that can be sold at auction to clear this debt, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:53 | |
because it wasn't paid when the County Court were dealing with it, | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
when the judge ordered it be paid. | 0:09:56 | 0:09:58 | |
So, it's deemed that... | 0:09:58 | 0:10:00 | |
It's deemed that you haven't got the money to pay, | 0:10:00 | 0:10:02 | |
therefore you have to have your goods removed. | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
It's got to be payment in full, sir. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:07 | |
OK. | 0:10:07 | 0:10:09 | |
All right. Bye-bye. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:12 | |
Cheers. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:13 | |
The gentleman, I believe, knows about the debt. | 0:10:13 | 0:10:16 | |
But he wanted to pay half today and half next week, | 0:10:16 | 0:10:19 | |
after his money's come in from next weekend. | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
But we're only on Tuesday today, | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
so he should have his money from last weekend, really. | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
You know, when you've got this much money tied up in stretch limousines. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
The boss is apparently now on his way here, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:32 | |
with a view to making the payment. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:34 | |
In the meantime, Lawrence and Kev are counting limos. | 0:10:34 | 0:10:37 | |
Hummers, to be precise. | 0:10:37 | 0:10:40 | |
12 of 'em. 12 Hummers. | 0:10:40 | 0:10:42 | |
These limo companies normally have, like, three or four. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
That's loads of money. Absolutely loads of money. | 0:10:44 | 0:10:47 | |
It turns out Kev has some experience of Hummers, | 0:10:47 | 0:10:50 | |
after hiring one in Las Vegas. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:52 | |
We went and saw the Grand Canyon in it. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
But we didn't find the Grand Canyon. | 0:10:55 | 0:10:57 | |
LAWRENCE LAUGHS | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
Got lost. | 0:10:59 | 0:11:00 | |
Grand Canyon's a long way from Vegas. | 0:11:00 | 0:11:02 | |
Yeah, we left about midday and never found it. It was dark. | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
Dark before we got anywhere near it. | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
I was giving directions. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:11:10 | 0:11:11 | |
That's about right, then. | 0:11:11 | 0:11:12 | |
The Hummers aren't the only assets here. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
There are plenty of other limos, too. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:19 | |
Not to mention the flashy motor Kev's just spotted. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
If you have a look at the back of the... | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
back of the old garage in here, | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
there's a pretty nice Ferrari sitting back there. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
Nice little asset. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:31 | |
That could only be removed if it belonged to the company, | 0:11:31 | 0:11:34 | |
which it probably doesn't. | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
Still, it's worth bearing in mind, just in case they don't get paid. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
Lawrence is confident, with the boss on his way, that they will. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:44 | |
If he hasn't got the money to pay in full, I'll be very surprised, | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
despite the fact that he was wrangling for half now, half next week. | 0:11:47 | 0:11:51 | |
There's hundreds of thousands of pounds' worth here, | 0:11:51 | 0:11:53 | |
if not going into the millions. | 0:11:53 | 0:11:55 | |
So, we'll just see if he comes up with the money, | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
and if he doesn't then we'll... | 0:11:58 | 0:12:00 | |
we'll start looking at what vehicle we're going to take. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:04 | |
After a short wait, a car pulls up. | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
Only it then turns around and drives off. | 0:12:08 | 0:12:11 | |
It seems whoever was in it didn't like the look of our camera. | 0:12:11 | 0:12:15 | |
Soon, the staff member comes out to say that it won't be the boss | 0:12:15 | 0:12:19 | |
that's making the payment after all. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:21 | |
Our transport manager's going to pay the bill off his card. OK. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
But he doesn't want the camera up there. OK. | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
He's got a card here, has he? Yeah. In here? | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
Our transport manager's going to do it off his private card. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
Then, obviously, the owner will pay him back. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:34 | |
The sheriffs head in to seal the deal. | 0:12:36 | 0:12:39 | |
All paid and on to the next job. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
Yeah, it's done now. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:44 | |
So...happy days. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:45 | |
Happy days, too, for Simon Pruce. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:50 | |
The great news is that I've just heard from the sheriffs | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
that they've been successful in recovering the money | 0:12:52 | 0:12:55 | |
on the enforcement, and I'm going to receive all of it. | 0:12:55 | 0:12:58 | |
I feel delighted that it's all over and done with now, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
and I can concentrate on my racing. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:03 | |
And Simon's got a message for anyone thinking of using the courts. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:09 | |
I'd advise anybody to go through this process if they need to. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:13 | |
It isn't complicated and, in this case, it was very successful. | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
If you've been ripped off and the person or company responsible | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
refuses to pay you back, | 0:13:23 | 0:13:26 | |
the first step is to make a claim in the County Court. | 0:13:26 | 0:13:29 | |
It's simple to do this online | 0:13:29 | 0:13:31 | |
for a small fee, depending on the size of the claim. | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
The court will review the evidence, and if it finds in your favour, | 0:13:34 | 0:13:38 | |
the debtor will be ordered to pay up. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:40 | |
If they don't, then for a further ?60 the High Court will grant | 0:13:40 | 0:13:44 | |
a writ, authorising the sheriffs to act on your behalf. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
If they're successful, you get all your money back. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
160 miles away, Sheriff Chris Pearson is in Huddersfield, | 0:13:55 | 0:13:59 | |
on the road and chasing another unpaid debt. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:02 | |
We're going to see a company, Kayflex Limited, | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
for an amount of ?11,919.52. | 0:14:05 | 0:14:10 | |
Kayflex Limited is a mattress supplier, | 0:14:11 | 0:14:13 | |
which hired a sales agent called Karen Saunders. | 0:14:13 | 0:14:16 | |
When the company terminated the relationship, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:18 | |
under industry regulations she was due compensation, | 0:14:18 | 0:14:21 | |
which hasn't been paid. | 0:14:21 | 0:14:24 | |
She's taken them to court, she's won the case. | 0:14:24 | 0:14:26 | |
It's been progressed to the High Court and they've asked us to attend today with a writ. | 0:14:26 | 0:14:31 | |
But when Chris approaches the address he's been given | 0:14:31 | 0:14:34 | |
for the company, it looks like there could be a problem. | 0:14:34 | 0:14:37 | |
That's locked. | 0:14:37 | 0:14:38 | |
It's not clear whether the business is even open. | 0:14:38 | 0:14:41 | |
So Chris tries their number. | 0:14:41 | 0:14:42 | |
Hello. I'm stood at the gates looking directly at your factory. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:48 | |
I can't get in. They're all locked up. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:50 | |
Someone's in and comes out to speak to him. | 0:14:52 | 0:14:56 | |
I'm just here to come and speak to | 0:14:56 | 0:14:57 | |
somebody at Kayflex, if I can, please. | 0:14:57 | 0:14:59 | |
How do I get round? | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
The man seems surprised Chris needs to ask - although there's a padlock | 0:15:01 | 0:15:05 | |
hanging on the gate, it looks like it was open all along. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
Chris drives through | 0:15:10 | 0:15:13 | |
and parks up. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:14 | |
Are you an employee at Kayflex, are you, mate? Yeah. Yeah, it's to do with Karen Saunders. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
Yeah, yeah. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:21 | |
Shall we go in and sort it out, yeah? | 0:15:23 | 0:15:25 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:26 | |
Chris explains he's come looking for nearly ?12,000. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
Although the man's cooperative, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:31 | |
he says he doesn't think Chris should be enforcing today. | 0:15:31 | 0:15:35 | |
Not as far as I'm aware. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
No problem. Yeah. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:42 | |
The man says the matter's still in legal dispute and tries to get his solicitor on the phone. | 0:15:42 | 0:15:47 | |
Meanwhile, Chris checks his file. | 0:15:47 | 0:15:50 | |
Are you Mr Khan, are you, sir? Sorry? | 0:15:50 | 0:15:52 | |
Are you Mr Khan? No, Iqbal. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
Mr Iqbal, yeah? Yeah. | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
Far from being an employee, Mr Iqbal is one of the company directors and | 0:15:57 | 0:16:02 | |
the file also reveals some unwelcome information about the business. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
They're trying to dissolve the old company, Kayflex Limited, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:10 | |
and trying to set up a new company, Kayflex UK Limited. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:14 | |
An application for a voluntary strike-off, a form of liquidation, has been made by the company. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:19 | |
If it goes through, it will officially no longer exist and Chris won't be able to collect. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:25 | |
He needs to finish the job today. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
It could be a messy one, this. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:29 | |
They'll probably try and play for more time. | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
Unfortunately, time's ran out today, so we're here to collect. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:34 | |
A member of staff comes through a security door | 0:16:34 | 0:16:36 | |
and Chris takes the opportunity to explore. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
There's a large warehouse full of mattress supplies. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
It would take all day to clear the place out | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
but Chris has the bargaining chip he needs. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
He can now tell Mr Iqbal that time is up. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
PHONE RINGS | 0:16:51 | 0:16:53 | |
Can you not? | 0:16:53 | 0:16:55 | |
OK. Well, somebody needs to pay the outstanding debt, mate. | 0:16:55 | 0:16:59 | |
Will you just wait in here? | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
I appreciate your solicitor's probably dealing with it | 0:17:03 | 0:17:06 | |
but the writ is still live, | 0:17:06 | 0:17:07 | |
which means we need to continue with enforcement. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
So if we can't get the debt paid today, | 0:17:10 | 0:17:12 | |
we need to take control and remove goods from the property. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:15 | |
No problem. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:19 | |
The man's off to make another phone call. | 0:17:19 | 0:17:22 | |
But Chris has made his point. | 0:17:22 | 0:17:23 | |
When Mr Iqbal comes back, he wants to pay up. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
Yeah. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:29 | |
Do a bank transfer. That's fine, yeah. | 0:17:29 | 0:17:33 | |
I'll give you the details. No problem. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
Mr Iqbal has had enough of being filmed and asks us to leave. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
20 minutes later, Chris is out, too. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
He decided quite easily, to be honest, to pay in full - | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
clear the debt off | 0:17:49 | 0:17:50 | |
and then speak to his solicitor at a later date. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:54 | |
Kayflex Limited did go back to court to challenge the judgment | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
but their application was dismissed. | 0:17:57 | 0:18:00 | |
After a long legal fight, the sales agent Karen Saunders has finally got the money she was owed. | 0:18:00 | 0:18:06 | |
Sheriffs are now officially known as High Court enforcement agents | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
and they'll collect the money you're owed. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:14 | |
My job is to collect in full or remove goods. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
They've got more powers of entry than bailiffs. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
We don't have to take any notice of your security protocol, I'm afraid. | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
And there's no limit on the size of the debts they can pursue. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
?1.6 million. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:28 | |
Their fees are set by the Government, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
which debtors have to pay on top of what they already owe. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:34 | |
Thank you very much. See you later. | 0:18:34 | 0:18:37 | |
If the sheriffs can't recover any of your money, | 0:18:37 | 0:18:39 | |
there's a fee of ?75, plus VAT. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:41 | |
It's half past 12, and on the orders of the court, | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
Lawrence and Kev are on their way to collect another unpaid debt. | 0:18:53 | 0:18:56 | |
We're in London, going up to NW10. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
We're going to go and find Supreme London Limited. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:04 | |
They owe ?13,869. | 0:19:04 | 0:19:10 | |
So, big debt on this one. | 0:19:10 | 0:19:11 | |
The address on the writ leads them to a trading estate. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:19 | |
Is it in here? Is this where we're going? Yeah. Down here. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
11 and 12, Supreme. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
There's a sign on the wall, but no clue as to what goes on inside. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
For Lawrence, forewarned is forearmed, and he checks the file. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:32 | |
Involved in the sale of textiles, clothing, fur, footwear | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
and leather goods. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
Manufacture, importing and distribution of eco-friendly bags. | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
It's not my bag. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
The unit door is locked. Lawrence rings the bell. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:48 | |
Hello, the Supreme London Limited? | 0:19:48 | 0:19:51 | |
My name's Mr Grix, my colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:19:51 | 0:19:54 | |
We need to speak to somebody about a High Court writ. | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
OK. | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
The sheriffs are asked to wait. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:01 | |
Lawrence has already got a feeling about this job. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:04 | |
Always suspicious of businesses that don't have an open door. | 0:20:04 | 0:20:08 | |
Yeah. | 0:20:08 | 0:20:10 | |
He might be right. As five minutes later, no-one's let them in. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:15 | |
Becoming of the opinion that there's nobody rushing down to see us. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
Lawrence doesn't take kindly to being made to hang around. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:22 | |
He's got the Supreme London office phone number in the file. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
Good afternoon, my name's Mr Grix, I'm an enforcement agent. | 0:20:28 | 0:20:31 | |
I've just buzzed up outside about five minutes ago and spoke to | 0:20:31 | 0:20:34 | |
a young man, who I believe was going to try and contact somebody. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
Nobody's come to speak to us at the door yet. | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
I have a High Court writ to execute against Supreme London Limited. | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
Somebody needs to come to the door and speak to me now, | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
because I have the power to force entry to commercial premises. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
I know somebody's in there. If nobody comes out and speaks to me, | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
I will be getting a locksmith and I will effect entry into the building. | 0:20:53 | 0:20:57 | |
No, I won't be waiting out here that long. | 0:20:57 | 0:21:00 | |
Apparently they're on the phone to directors, | 0:21:00 | 0:21:02 | |
and somebody will call me in about ten or 15 minutes. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:04 | |
I'm not happy about that. | 0:21:04 | 0:21:06 | |
Debtors don't always know the sheriffs will let themselves in | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
if need be. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:10 | |
It's a powerful bargaining tool against anyone who hopes | 0:21:10 | 0:21:13 | |
they might just go away if ignored. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
We've confirmed that the company we're looking for is here, and there | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
are people from that company inside, and they're not coming to the door. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:23 | |
So, if necessary, I will call out a locksmith | 0:21:23 | 0:21:26 | |
and we'll force entry to the building. | 0:21:26 | 0:21:28 | |
This time, however, his threat seems to have fallen on deaf ears. | 0:21:28 | 0:21:33 | |
Then, just when it's looking like they really might need to | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
force the door... | 0:21:35 | 0:21:37 | |
an employee has arrived. | 0:21:37 | 0:21:40 | |
How are you doing, mate? | 0:21:40 | 0:21:41 | |
All right, buddy. | 0:21:41 | 0:21:43 | |
And Lawrence and Kev follow him in. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:45 | |
They head upstairs to Supreme London's office, which is | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
a vast improvement on what Kev had expected. | 0:21:52 | 0:21:57 | |
Different to the outside. | 0:21:57 | 0:21:58 | |
The outside looks pretty run-down and not much is going on, but... | 0:21:58 | 0:22:01 | |
yeah, it's all happening up here. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
A note pinned to the wall gives a hint of why they've had | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
so much trouble getting in the door. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
But even now he's appeared unannounced in their office, | 0:22:10 | 0:22:13 | |
Lawrence is struggling to get anyone's attention. | 0:22:13 | 0:22:16 | |
Sorry, who is it that's actually in charge? | 0:22:18 | 0:22:21 | |
So, who's in charge? | 0:22:24 | 0:22:27 | |
Somebody must be in charge at the moment. | 0:22:27 | 0:22:29 | |
None of the people present seem sure what to do. | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
So there's no managers here at all? | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
Right, so who's been trying to contact the director on the phone? | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
Who did I speak to from outside on the intercom? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
But someone does get the company director on the phone. | 0:22:56 | 0:22:59 | |
Hello? | 0:23:05 | 0:23:06 | |
Lawrence is hoping that finally the message will sink in. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:09 | |
I have a High Court writ of control, which orders me to come | 0:23:09 | 0:23:13 | |
here today and take control of goods to the value of | 0:23:13 | 0:23:16 | |
?13,869.92, | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
goods that can be sold at auction to clear this debt. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
But even he doesn't seem to understand the importance of the writ. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
No, I don't want to come back at all. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:28 | |
I will be executing the writ today. | 0:23:28 | 0:23:30 | |
The only way to prevent further action is to pay in full. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
The man doesn't want to come to the office. | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
You don't have to be here to pay, you can log on to your bank | 0:23:36 | 0:23:40 | |
and pay by online transfer...or... | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
He doesn't want to do that either. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:47 | |
OK, then. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:48 | |
OK, I will carry on executing the writ and call some lorries. OK. | 0:23:48 | 0:23:52 | |
I'll take things. Thank you, bye-bye. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
Not going to pay. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
Having been locked outside the front door and kept waiting by the staff | 0:23:58 | 0:24:02 | |
in the office, Lawrence isn't in the mood to waste any more time, | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
and gets straight on the phone. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
Can you see if Rob's available with his 7.5-tonner with the tail lift, please? | 0:24:08 | 0:24:12 | |
Kev, meanwhile, is on the hunt for goods they could remove. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
Unfortunately, there's not a great deal of assets here. | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
There's a lot going on in the office and a lot of computers and | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
sort of furniture, but value-wise it's not particularly great. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:27 | |
Removal isn't ideal, so Kev tries to make the staff realise | 0:24:27 | 0:24:31 | |
they really do mean business, in the hope the director will reconsider. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
Everything you see will be gone. From stock to this, everything. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:41 | |
Literally, I mean, | 0:24:41 | 0:24:42 | |
the whole place will be cleaned out for the amount it is. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:46 | |
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, right now. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
Lawrence adds his weight to the argument. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:52 | |
Is anybody here capable of backing up the computers? | 0:24:52 | 0:24:54 | |
Because I'm going to start unplugging them. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:56 | |
Because we're going to have to take them, | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
because your boss isn't going to pay this. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
With over 13,000 owed, they really will need to remove everything. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:07 | |
It's not the sheriffs' intent to stop a business trading, | 0:25:07 | 0:25:10 | |
but sometimes there's no other option. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
If it's...if it's all the company has got, | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
and they're not willing to pay, | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
then you have to take what they have got. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
And if it shuts them down, it shuts them down. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
He was quite adamant he wasn't going to pay, | 0:25:25 | 0:25:27 | |
so you have to do what you have to do. | 0:25:27 | 0:25:28 | |
Removal of office goods is the last resort for the sheriffs, | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
and the worst option for a debtor. | 0:25:32 | 0:25:34 | |
On top of their low value, they are bulky and expensive to remove | 0:25:34 | 0:25:38 | |
and will cost far more to replace | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
than they will ever sell for at auction. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
Lawrence's growing pile by the doorway seems to have finally | 0:25:44 | 0:25:48 | |
had the effect he wanted. | 0:25:48 | 0:25:49 | |
Yeah, so we've been told there's a director on his way down now, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:54 | |
not far away. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:56 | |
But this belated move doesn't put him off his stride. | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
No, we're going to carry on to save time. | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
He said on the phone he wasn't going to pay, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
so I'm not stopping what I'm doing just because he's turning up. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:10 | |
If he turns up and deals with it properly | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
then obviously there'll be no need for us to remove. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:16 | |
Moments later, the director arrives. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:18 | |
Are you the gentleman I spoke to on the phone? | 0:26:19 | 0:26:23 | |
My name's Mr Grix. | 0:26:23 | 0:26:24 | |
Where are we going to, sir? | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
All right. | 0:26:29 | 0:26:30 | |
Lawrence is led into a meeting room, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
while our cameraman's asked to wait outside. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
The director seems to now realise that the removal of the entire | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
contents of his office really is imminent | 0:26:41 | 0:26:44 | |
and that he'll need to find some money today to prevent it. | 0:26:44 | 0:26:47 | |
45 minutes later, the sheriffs reappear. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
Despite keeping him waiting, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
the director's managed to appease Lawrence. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:58 | |
As it happens, he was quite a nice chap. | 0:26:58 | 0:27:00 | |
Erm, there's photos of him with David Cameron, | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
Prince Charles, the Queen. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
So obviously, he's quite a well-to-do businessman | 0:27:06 | 0:27:10 | |
who mixes in the right circles. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:13 | |
He might have famous friends | 0:27:13 | 0:27:15 | |
but he didn't have the full ?13,869 that the sheriffs came for. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:20 | |
He did manage to pay us ?3,300, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:24 | |
and he's got money clearing into his account tomorrow, which he's going | 0:27:24 | 0:27:29 | |
to do by BACS over to us, so we'll have the balance by Friday. | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
I think he'll probably do it. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:36 | |
But either way, the ?3,300 we got was more than the value of anything in there. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
It was fairly old computers, which go for nothing at auction, | 0:27:41 | 0:27:46 | |
and other than that there really wasn't much at all. | 0:27:46 | 0:27:49 | |
Bits and pieces of furniture, | 0:27:49 | 0:27:50 | |
but it certainly wouldn't have raised ?3,300 at auction. | 0:27:50 | 0:27:54 | |
Plus you'd have had the costs of removing it, et cetera, et cetera. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
So it was best today just to get a controlled goods agreement, | 0:27:57 | 0:28:00 | |
get a partial payment and wait for the balance to come in on Friday. | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
In the end, it's a good result in difficult circumstances. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
Supreme London Limited later cleared the balance | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
and the claimant has got their money back. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 |