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-Meet The Sheriffs. -My name's Mr Grix, my colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
It's to do with a High Court order. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:06 | |
They work for the High Court, and if it says you're owed money, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:10 | |
it's their job to go and get it. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
I'm here for £6,072.18. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
They can demand payment on the spot. | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
I'm here for the full balance. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
How are you going to pay it? | 0:00:20 | 0:00:22 | |
Or remove assets instead. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:24 | |
The car will be going unless you can pay it. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
You'll have a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Obstructing their work can be a criminal offence. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
-I wouldn't do that if I were you. -The door needs to stay open. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:36 | |
Every year in England and Wales, | 0:00:37 | 0:00:40 | |
unpaid debts totalling more than £80 million | 0:00:40 | 0:00:43 | |
are recovered by The Sheriffs. | 0:00:43 | 0:00:44 | |
Coming up... | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
Neil Cummings bought an eco-friendly heating system, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:53 | |
which turned out to be dangerous. | 0:00:53 | 0:00:55 | |
I paid over £10,500. | 0:00:55 | 0:00:57 | |
I ended up with a system that was completely unsafe. | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
There's a dramatic intervention from Lawrence to stop assets disappearing | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
from the business that sold it. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
They were literally engines running, | 0:01:07 | 0:01:08 | |
I just had to swing the van across and block them in. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:11 | |
Tommy's looking for a result at a football club with a debt to pay. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:15 | |
I won't leave here today without payment or taking stuff with me. | 0:01:15 | 0:01:20 | |
Lawrence confronts a car dealer who owes a £12,000 refund | 0:01:20 | 0:01:25 | |
to a customer. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:26 | |
I will ask the question again, what can you pay? | 0:01:26 | 0:01:30 | |
It's eight o'clock in the morning, | 0:01:34 | 0:01:36 | |
and enforcement agent Lawrence Grix is already on the road. | 0:01:36 | 0:01:40 | |
He's heading into Surrey for an unpaid debt | 0:01:40 | 0:01:42 | |
owed by a business specialising in eco-friendly heating systems. | 0:01:42 | 0:01:47 | |
We're down near Guildford today, | 0:01:47 | 0:01:48 | |
just coming into a place called Gomshall. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:52 | |
We've got the Green Shop and Jan Aukstolis. | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
I believe it's a shop that sells wood-burning stoves and things, | 0:01:56 | 0:02:00 | |
and there was an issue with a wood-burning stove. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
We're here today for just under £8,500. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:07 | |
The claimant in the case is Neil Cummings, | 0:02:10 | 0:02:12 | |
a self-employed builder who came across the company | 0:02:12 | 0:02:15 | |
after embarking on a labour of love, building his own family home. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:19 | |
The idea of actually building a house specifically for us | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
was a lifelong ambition. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
There's no gas supply, there's no oil here, | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
so I decided that I wanted to go the green route. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
After researching his options, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:32 | |
Neil found a local supplier and installer, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
the Green Shop in Gomshall. | 0:02:35 | 0:02:37 | |
He went to meet the man in charge, Jan Aukstolis. | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
He gave me a quote, which I accepted. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:43 | |
He talked the talk, | 0:02:43 | 0:02:44 | |
he seemed to certainly know what he was talking about. | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
At the heart of the whole system was a wood-burning stove, | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
and initially Neil was very pleased with the installation. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:55 | |
All of the work proceeded well and everything was installed. | 0:02:55 | 0:02:59 | |
Everything seemed to be fine and above board. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:02 | |
That was until Neil wanted to add a new feature on to the system, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:06 | |
and when he couldn't get hold of Mr Aukstolis, | 0:03:06 | 0:03:09 | |
called in another plumber. | 0:03:09 | 0:03:10 | |
He came along and had a look at the system that we had here | 0:03:10 | 0:03:14 | |
for a couple of hours, and he turned round and said, | 0:03:14 | 0:03:17 | |
"I'm really not happy". | 0:03:17 | 0:03:18 | |
He said that in his opinion, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
the system didn't have enough safety features within it. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
So Neil had it disconnected. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:27 | |
When he contacted the manufacturer of one of the other main components | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
in his heating system, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
not only did they confirm what the plumber was saying, | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
they also forwarded an e-mail they'd sent to Mr Aukstolis. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:40 | |
And in the e-mail, it basically turned round and said that | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
the wood-burning stove used in conjunction with this particular | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
system MUST have an in-built quench coil." | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
The quench coil is designed to release energy from the system | 0:03:49 | 0:03:53 | |
in the event of a power cut or safety features failing. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:56 | |
While it's not necessary in every wood-burning stove, | 0:03:56 | 0:03:59 | |
Neil's particular system required one, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:02 | |
and without it he feared he was sitting on a potential time bomb. | 0:04:02 | 0:04:06 | |
What we've actually got is a pressurised system, | 0:04:06 | 0:04:10 | |
which is building up and up and up. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
It's like an old steam locomotive, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
if you can't release the energy, it's going to explode, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
and the idea of actually spending my life savings building this property, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
to potentially have, you know, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
my family in a dangerous situation, is scary. | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
Neil tried to get in touch with Jan Aukstolis to see what he had to say. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:32 | |
He didn't reply to any of my text messages, e-mails, I phoned him, | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
I went down to the shop, I couldn't get hold of him at all. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
Eventually, Neil decided the only option was to get quotes to rectify | 0:04:39 | 0:04:43 | |
the work and complete the installation, | 0:04:43 | 0:04:46 | |
and then take Mr Aukstolis and the Green Shop to court, | 0:04:46 | 0:04:49 | |
to cover the costs. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:51 | |
When they didn't defend the case, Neil won a default judgment. | 0:04:51 | 0:04:55 | |
Since then he hasn't paid any money at all, | 0:04:55 | 0:04:57 | |
so I've decided that I need to take this case further. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:01 | |
He's now escalated it to the High Court | 0:05:01 | 0:05:03 | |
and obtained a writ for the sheriffs to enforce. | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
So hopefully in their hands we'll see what they can do. | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
Lawrence is en route to the shop, | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
and his research in the office has painted a promising picture | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
of what he might find. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
It looks quite a reasonably large premises, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:30 | |
when you look at it on Google, | 0:05:30 | 0:05:32 | |
with a car park to the rear. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:33 | |
So hopefully they'll have assets there. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
There is money in wood-burning stoves. | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
Lawrence arrives at the Green Shop | 0:05:41 | 0:05:43 | |
just as some workers are about to get into their vans. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
I'm going to have to try and catch this fella here, I think. | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
So there's no hanging about. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:53 | |
Morning, gents. I'm looking for Jan Aukstolis. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:57 | |
-Is that you at all? -No. | 0:05:57 | 0:05:59 | |
Is he here? Is Mr Aukstolis here? | 0:05:59 | 0:06:01 | |
Our cameraman retreats to the road, | 0:06:05 | 0:06:07 | |
while Lawrence tries to find out where Mr Aukstolis is, | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
but the workers here appear to be installers or engineers. | 0:06:11 | 0:06:14 | |
They're keen to get off to their first job of the day | 0:06:16 | 0:06:18 | |
and don't want to wait. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:20 | |
When they start preparing to leave, Lawrence swings into action... | 0:06:21 | 0:06:25 | |
Repositioning his van... | 0:06:28 | 0:06:29 | |
..and blocking the entire entrance to the car park. | 0:06:32 | 0:06:35 | |
Sorry to have to do this to you, guys. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:41 | |
I fully appreciate that you're only just trying to earn a living | 0:06:41 | 0:06:44 | |
and do your job. | 0:06:44 | 0:06:45 | |
But as their vehicles are sign-written | 0:06:46 | 0:06:48 | |
and could belong to the debtor, | 0:06:48 | 0:06:50 | |
Lawrence can't let them leave until he has answers, | 0:06:50 | 0:06:53 | |
which seem to be hard to come by. | 0:06:53 | 0:06:56 | |
Mr Aukstolis isn't here. | 0:06:56 | 0:06:59 | |
The guys that are here say that they basically run the place, | 0:07:00 | 0:07:03 | |
they don't see him very often. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
The three vehicles that I've managed to block in | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
are all clear of finance. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
If I can't get hold of him and the guys here can't get hold of him | 0:07:10 | 0:07:14 | |
then, yeah, I'll basically remove the vehicles. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:18 | |
But getting hold of Mr Aukstolis turns out to be quite simple after all. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:22 | |
One man who's here is showing more interest in the case. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
Mr Grix, G-R-I-X. | 0:07:26 | 0:07:29 | |
And Lawrence puts two and two together. | 0:07:29 | 0:07:31 | |
So, are you Mr Aukstolis, then? | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
It is indeed Mr Aukstolis - | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
the man who sold Neil his dangerous heating system. | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
Lawrence shows him his writ and explains he's here for £8,440. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:45 | |
Mr Aukstolis tells him nothing here is owned by him, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
but by his business, | 0:07:49 | 0:07:50 | |
which is registered as The Green Shop Gomshall Limited. | 0:07:50 | 0:07:53 | |
Lawrence demands proof of ownership, | 0:07:55 | 0:07:57 | |
but in the end he doesn't need to see it. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:00 | |
Perhaps mindful of his staff trapped in the car park | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
and unable to get to work, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
Mr Aukstolis manages to come up with some money. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
Lawrence moves his van out of the way and lets them go. | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
That didn't go too badly. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:14 | |
The gentleman there actually was Mr Aukstolis, | 0:08:14 | 0:08:16 | |
and he's managed to come up with just under £3,500 today, | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
and I've put him on a monthly arrangement of £1,000 a month for the rest. | 0:08:21 | 0:08:25 | |
All being well, he should clear his debt in five months. | 0:08:26 | 0:08:30 | |
In Sussex, | 0:08:31 | 0:08:33 | |
word of the payment has come as a welcome relief to Neil Cummings. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:37 | |
Really good news from the sheriffs. | 0:08:38 | 0:08:39 | |
We've actually finally managed to get hold of the first initial payment of just over £3,500, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:45 | |
so that's come in and that's brilliant. | 0:08:45 | 0:08:47 | |
So we've already got the new wood-burning stove, | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
which is just sitting in place, it's not actually connected. | 0:08:49 | 0:08:52 | |
Let's just hope that Jan is true to his word | 0:08:52 | 0:08:54 | |
and honours the agreement and it will be the end to a lot of stress | 0:08:54 | 0:08:59 | |
and anxiety that we've had over the last year. | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
Using the County Courts to try to recover money you're owed isn't difficult. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:15 | |
1.5 million money claims are made every year in England and Wales, | 0:09:15 | 0:09:19 | |
involving anything from faulty goods or poor workmanship, | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
to unpaid invoices. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
Claims can be filed by post or online for a small fee. | 0:09:25 | 0:09:29 | |
Both parties in the case will be asked to submit evidence | 0:09:29 | 0:09:32 | |
and you may have to attend a court hearing. | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
If you're successful, | 0:09:35 | 0:09:36 | |
a County Court Judgment, or CCJ, will be issued against the debtor, | 0:09:36 | 0:09:41 | |
and if they still don't pay, that's when you call the sheriffs. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:45 | |
Enforcement agent Tommy Coyle is in the East Midlands, | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
with an unusual case on his hands against a sports club. | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
We're on our way to Corby today. | 0:09:57 | 0:09:59 | |
We're visiting Corby Town Football Club. | 0:09:59 | 0:10:01 | |
I think they're quite a small club. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:03 | |
There's previously been an agent visit the property, | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
spoke to a Steve, who's the chairman, who promised payment. | 0:10:06 | 0:10:10 | |
The payment has not been forthcoming. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:13 | |
Corby Town FC has been taken to court for unpaid invoices | 0:10:13 | 0:10:17 | |
by a company which has done ground work on the pitch. | 0:10:17 | 0:10:20 | |
The club didn't defend the case and judgment was issued by default. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
It owes £10,965. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:28 | |
Tommy may not be much of a football fan, | 0:10:30 | 0:10:32 | |
but today he's hoping for a win. | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
Hopefully they'll have some assets there. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:36 | |
It could be a small bar, it could be some minivans, | 0:10:36 | 0:10:40 | |
for transporting the players round. It could be some trophies, | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
but I don't know how many trophies Corby Town have won recently, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
but we'll have a look. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
We're hoping for a result today, possibly a 3-2 for Tommy. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:53 | |
Thankfully, it's not match day. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:57 | |
Welcome to Corby Town FC. | 0:10:57 | 0:10:58 | |
Although Tommy has no trouble getting into the grounds, | 0:11:00 | 0:11:03 | |
finding anyone to talk to might be another matter. | 0:11:03 | 0:11:06 | |
But he soon navigates his way into some kind of clubhouse, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:10 | |
where a team talk appears to be underway. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:12 | |
-Hi, you all right? -You all right? Is the chairman about? | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
Could you give him a call for me, it's quite urgent? | 0:11:20 | 0:11:22 | |
I'm an enforcement agent. | 0:11:22 | 0:11:24 | |
Tommy's stumbled on the club's youth academy, | 0:11:24 | 0:11:27 | |
and the man in charge offers to get the chairman on the phone. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
-Is it? -I don't know what else I can do. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:35 | |
Is there anyone else you can call? | 0:11:35 | 0:11:36 | |
The problem I have, I'm literally here, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
I'm going to start listing assets down straightaway. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
Once I've listed everything down, | 0:11:41 | 0:11:43 | |
I'll literally be getting contractors in | 0:11:43 | 0:11:45 | |
and start removing stuff. | 0:11:45 | 0:11:47 | |
Understandably, it's not what the man wants to hear, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
especially as he says the academy is separate and not part of the club. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:55 | |
Right, let's start listing everything down. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:58 | |
News that an enforcement agent is planning to remove the contents of | 0:11:58 | 0:12:01 | |
the clubhouse soon gets through to the right person. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
-You all right? -The chairman on the phone. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:07 | |
-Is this Steve, is it? -Steve, yeah. | 0:12:07 | 0:12:09 | |
Hello, sir. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
But club chairman Steve Noble hasn't called up to make a payment - | 0:12:12 | 0:12:17 | |
he instead has a different take on events. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
He's talking about a deal he's come to with the claimant. | 0:12:20 | 0:12:24 | |
I appreciate what you're saying, | 0:12:24 | 0:12:26 | |
but unless I'm instructed by a court, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:28 | |
I have to carry on with my actions today. | 0:12:28 | 0:12:30 | |
All right, speak to you in bit. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:32 | |
The chairman seems to think that he's come to an agreement with the claimant. | 0:12:34 | 0:12:37 | |
The claimant was going to pay our cost directly to us, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:40 | |
and then they was going to come to an agreement between themselves. | 0:12:40 | 0:12:44 | |
I've got no notes of that. | 0:12:44 | 0:12:46 | |
And a quick call to Tommy's office suggests that while | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
the claimant may be willing to accept a payment schedule, | 0:12:49 | 0:12:52 | |
he wants any such deal to be arranged through the sheriffs. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:56 | |
In the meantime, Tommy's search for assets continues. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:01 | |
In the bar, there's some alcohol. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:04 | |
Limited wet stock. | 0:13:04 | 0:13:06 | |
And a modest collection of silverware. | 0:13:06 | 0:13:08 | |
Three cups up there, and one large one there, | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
so I'll make a note of them. | 0:13:12 | 0:13:15 | |
Though the first aid room turns out to be of more interest. | 0:13:15 | 0:13:19 | |
Here we go. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:20 | |
Resuscitating machine, an electronic one. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:22 | |
I think you just put the paddles on, start her up and it saves your life, basically. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:27 | |
They're really good bits of kit. | 0:13:27 | 0:13:29 | |
Tommy takes the kit to the van and tries to reach the chairman again | 0:13:29 | 0:13:32 | |
to see if he's going to come up with the money. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:35 | |
Hello, Mr Noble, it's the enforcement agent. | 0:13:35 | 0:13:38 | |
Tommy wants at least £3,000 now, but the chairman says he can't pay. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:44 | |
If you're telling me it's impossible to make any kind of payment today, | 0:13:44 | 0:13:48 | |
then kind of our conversation's going to come to an end because | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
I'm just going to have to carry on with what I'm going to do here. | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
Mr Noble, I'll probably be here for the next three hours because | 0:13:54 | 0:13:57 | |
I'll get the contractors on their way. | 0:13:57 | 0:13:59 | |
If anything does get sorted, let me know, | 0:13:59 | 0:14:01 | |
but we're going to carry on with what we're going to do here. | 0:14:01 | 0:14:03 | |
Right. Not paying anything then. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:06 | |
It looks like removal is Tommy's only option, | 0:14:09 | 0:14:12 | |
and he takes his search for assets pitch-side. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
Two goalposts... | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
Which, believe it or not, could be removed, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
although they're not as useful as what's in the outbuildings. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:24 | |
That's the one. This is exactly what I'm looking for, | 0:14:24 | 0:14:27 | |
something with a bit of monetary value. | 0:14:27 | 0:14:30 | |
I'll have the keys, as well. | 0:14:30 | 0:14:32 | |
But before he can get too carried away, | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
he's interrupted by a groundsman. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
Aren't they? Whose are they? | 0:14:42 | 0:14:44 | |
They're yours? | 0:14:44 | 0:14:46 | |
Have you got any evidence? Who are you? | 0:14:49 | 0:14:51 | |
In terms of assets, the football club isn't proving to be rich pickings. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
Tommy's running out of places to look, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
and thoughts wander to Sheriffs FC. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
I'll be a forward, Kev on the wing. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:06 | |
We'll have Wild in defence, with Ken. | 0:15:06 | 0:15:09 | |
Alan in goal, Grixy will be our manager. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
Tommy returns to the van to start organising the removal, | 0:15:15 | 0:15:18 | |
but is interrupted by another phone call. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
You hold the lease for the grounds here and the building? Yeah. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
There's been a substitution and a new player is on the pitch. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:30 | |
It's the landlord, who's got wind that the club's goalposts, | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
among other things, might be about to be removed, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
and it sounds like he could be willing to make a payment. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
OK, sir. All right, speak to you in a bit. Bye. | 0:15:40 | 0:15:43 | |
He's willing to pay on their behalf the 3,000, | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
and he'll have it paid by midday tomorrow. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
With limited assets here, | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
and other multiple claims over their ownership, | 0:15:51 | 0:15:53 | |
it's a deal Tommy's prepared to agree to. | 0:15:53 | 0:15:56 | |
The landlord soon arrives at the club, | 0:15:57 | 0:15:59 | |
where he meets with Tommy off-camera. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:02 | |
A controlled goods agreement is signed for the assets listed down. | 0:16:02 | 0:16:06 | |
With the complexities we had there, | 0:16:06 | 0:16:08 | |
I think it's a good result, getting the CGA £1,500 per month, | 0:16:08 | 0:16:12 | |
with the £3,000 paid tomorrow. | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
The £3,000 arrived as promised, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
and the company which did the work on the pitch | 0:16:18 | 0:16:20 | |
has started to receive its money. | 0:16:20 | 0:16:23 | |
Lawrence and Kev are in Sevenoaks in Kent. | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
They've got another High Court writ to enforce, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
this time against a business which specialises in classic cars. | 0:16:37 | 0:16:42 | |
We are heading to a car garage called Karden Europe. | 0:16:42 | 0:16:46 | |
They owe £12,963. | 0:16:46 | 0:16:50 | |
This debt is relating to the sale of a Porsche, I believe. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
The garage they're going to looks well-stocked, | 0:16:55 | 0:16:58 | |
and the sheriffs are feeling confident. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:00 | |
Little do they know that today is not going to go as well | 0:17:00 | 0:17:03 | |
as they would hope. | 0:17:03 | 0:17:05 | |
The case began when taxi driver Nick Lewthwaite from Durham | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
was looking to buy a new car for him and his wife. | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
After saving up some money and taking a loan, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
they decided to treat themselves to the car of their dreams. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:20 | |
It was always my ideal thing to have a Porsche 911, | 0:17:20 | 0:17:23 | |
the most iconic car. | 0:17:23 | 0:17:26 | |
And when Nick found one on Auto Trader, | 0:17:26 | 0:17:28 | |
it seemed to be everything they wanted. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:31 | |
Light metallic blue, matching blue leather. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
It had so many upgrades, it made the car really special. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
Absolutely perfect for what we were looking for. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
The car was some distance away in Kent, | 0:17:40 | 0:17:43 | |
at a dealers called Karden Europe Limited. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
But Nick made the trip to have a look and met the company director, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
-Andrew Austin. -He seemed very knowledgeable. | 0:17:49 | 0:17:51 | |
On his website he'd been in the trade for 30 years. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:54 | |
He explained that he shipped cars all over the world. | 0:17:54 | 0:17:57 | |
He was a very convincing man. | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
Nick met the £34,000 asking price with | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
the part exchange of his previous car, a BMW, and £15,000 on top. | 0:18:02 | 0:18:08 | |
He then drove away as the proud owner of a Porsche 911. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:13 | |
Dream come true. It was an absolute dream come true. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
But not everything about the car was perfect. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
After about 100 miles, the clutch started getting slightly heavier | 0:18:21 | 0:18:25 | |
and it was starting to struggle to go into gear. | 0:18:25 | 0:18:28 | |
And Nick's wife found it even more difficult. | 0:18:28 | 0:18:31 | |
She said it was undriveable for her, | 0:18:31 | 0:18:34 | |
and that's when I rang them up and told them straightaway, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
I said, "There's something not quite right here." | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
Mr Austin advised Nick to take it to a specialist who made some repairs, | 0:18:39 | 0:18:44 | |
but they also made an alarming discovery - | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
the car was still on a finance agreement, | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
which its previous owner hadn't paid off. | 0:18:49 | 0:18:51 | |
That means it was still technically owned by the bank. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:55 | |
I don't know how much was owing on the car, | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
but it still had four and a half years to run. | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
So I'm effectively paying for a car that I don't own. | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
Mr Austin claimed he'd taken out the finance arrangement himself as | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
the dealer and would soon clear it, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
but when that didn't happen after a week, | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
Nick lost faith and arranged to return the car | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
and get his old one back. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
He looked round the car and he says, "I'll give you £12,500." | 0:19:17 | 0:19:21 | |
Which, along with the return of his BMW, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:23 | |
was £2,500 less than what he paid. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:27 | |
I said, "Well, you haven't mentioned this on the phone." | 0:19:27 | 0:19:30 | |
He said, "I've got my loss of profit." | 0:19:30 | 0:19:33 | |
Eventually Mr Austin offered to reimburse £13,000, | 0:19:33 | 0:19:37 | |
and Nick decided to accept it for the time being, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
in the form of a cheque. | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
I thought, I'll take his cheque for £13,000, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
and I'll take him to the small claims court for the £2,000. | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
I'm not going to get into a fist fight over a car. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:54 | |
Put his cheque into the bank, and unfortunately it bounced, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:58 | |
it was stopped. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
Mr Austin later made a bank transfer for £3,000, | 0:20:01 | 0:20:05 | |
but despite Nick chasing time and time again for the rest, | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
it never came. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:10 | |
Eventually he made a claim through the County Courts. | 0:20:10 | 0:20:13 | |
The judge ruled against Karden Europe, | 0:20:13 | 0:20:15 | |
in favour of Nick's wife Nicola, | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
as the purchase was originally made from her bank account. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
But that judgment hasn't been paid either. | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
Now the Lewthwaites have taken the next logical step. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:28 | |
So we've involved the sheriffs, | 0:20:28 | 0:20:29 | |
and basically they're probably the last hope to get any money. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:34 | |
Back in Kent, Lawrence and Kev are about to arrive at Karden Europe. | 0:20:43 | 0:20:47 | |
Kev's notes suggest Mr Austin wants to come to a deal. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:50 | |
The debtor has actually been in touch with us | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
and tried to make an arrangement... | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
..but we're going to head over there now and look for full payment. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:01 | |
I believe that the garage we're going to has got quite a lot of stock, | 0:21:01 | 0:21:05 | |
of particularly high-value cars. | 0:21:05 | 0:21:08 | |
So we're hoping that although 12,900 is quite a lot of money, | 0:21:08 | 0:21:13 | |
probably it would only take one of these cars to cover the debt entirely. | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
I just hope they're not owned by someone else. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
The sheriffs pull into the garage and park up. | 0:21:21 | 0:21:24 | |
A man is on the forecourt. | 0:21:25 | 0:21:27 | |
-Hi sir, you work here? -Yes. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
It's Andrew Austin, the garage owner, | 0:21:33 | 0:21:35 | |
but he's interrupted before Lawrence can find out any more. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
In the meantime, he eyes up the stock. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
That's the TR6 that's on the website for 19,995, I believe. Lovely. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:48 | |
Not all the cars on display here are classics, | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
but there's certainly enough to get their teeth into. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
The next question is, who owns them? | 0:21:54 | 0:21:56 | |
Mr Austin is off the phone, so it's time to find out. | 0:21:56 | 0:22:01 | |
My name's Mr Grix. My colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
We've got a High Court writ against Karden Europe | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
in favour of a Mrs Nicola Lewthwaite. | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
-Oh, right, yeah. -You've been in touch about it. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:11 | |
We're here today to take control of goods to the value of £12,963.19. | 0:22:11 | 0:22:17 | |
-OK. -The only way to prevent further action is to pay in full. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
OK, well we haven't got... Karden Europe wouldn't have that, | 0:22:20 | 0:22:24 | |
that amount of goods. | 0:22:24 | 0:22:26 | |
Well, there's plenty of stock on here. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:28 | |
Yeah... But Karden Europe works as a commission-based company. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:32 | |
-It sells... -Right, so everything's on SOR? | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
-Yeah. -Have you got paperwork to that effect? | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
-Yeah, pretty much, yeah. -Yeah, if I can see, that's what I need to see. | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
Mr Austin says all his cars are sale or return - in other words, | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
he's selling them on behalf of their owners for a fee. | 0:22:44 | 0:22:47 | |
It's exactly what Lawrence and Kev had feared might be the case, | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
and Mr Austin seems to have the paperwork to prove it. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Basically, these are sale or return documents | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
for every vehicle that we've got here. | 0:22:58 | 0:23:00 | |
-Can I have a quick look through? -Yeah, sure. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:03 | |
Right, we need to go out and check these. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
I'll give you half, I'll have half. | 0:23:06 | 0:23:08 | |
They head outside and begin checking | 0:23:08 | 0:23:10 | |
the documents against every car here. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:13 | |
Right, I've got the Kangoo... | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
I've got the Maserati... | 0:23:17 | 0:23:19 | |
And one by one, they rule them out. | 0:23:20 | 0:23:23 | |
There's the Zafira. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:24 | |
-Polo. -I've got the Merc. | 0:23:24 | 0:23:27 | |
-You've got the Merc, yeah. -I've got the TR6 and I've got that Morris. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
But there are a few cars which don't seem to be accounted for. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
There's still other vehicles that are on the forecourt that aren't there, | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
which is the Alfa... | 0:23:37 | 0:23:40 | |
the Focus RS... | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
The Focus RS is my own personal vehicle. | 0:23:42 | 0:23:45 | |
-Right. -That's all financed, on finance. | 0:23:45 | 0:23:48 | |
Right. The Audi? | 0:23:48 | 0:23:50 | |
-The Audi... -And the black BM 3-Series out the back. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:52 | |
It's on sale or return. | 0:23:52 | 0:23:54 | |
Right, so we need to see the paperwork for that. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:56 | |
I haven't got that at this moment in time. | 0:23:56 | 0:23:58 | |
So you didn't give the person a receipt? | 0:23:58 | 0:24:00 | |
No. | 0:24:00 | 0:24:02 | |
That's very... | 0:24:02 | 0:24:03 | |
Very trusting of him. | 0:24:03 | 0:24:05 | |
Mr Austin produces more paperwork, to rule out his car and the Alfa, | 0:24:07 | 0:24:12 | |
leaving just two within Lawrence's reach. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
They're not worth that much, and so he now knows he's not in a position | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
to insist on full payment after all. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
His best chance of recovering Nick Lewthwaite's missing money | 0:24:21 | 0:24:24 | |
might now rest on Mr Austin coming up with a decent offer. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:28 | |
Mr Austin says the company has no money at all at the moment, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:33 | |
but Lawrence is sceptical. | 0:24:33 | 0:24:35 | |
As a business, you can't not be able to get your hands on some kind of money. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:39 | |
Have you got a bank statement you can show me | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
that shows your current financial state for the company? | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
No, not physically here. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
He does, however, manage to produce a recent e-mail from his bank. | 0:24:48 | 0:24:52 | |
There you are, look. "I note that the account is overdrawn at 484. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:56 | |
"Can you please make arrangements to repay this sum." | 0:24:56 | 0:24:58 | |
-Which we haven't done yet. -Right. -OK? -Yeah. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:00 | |
As the two cars are the only leverage | 0:25:02 | 0:25:04 | |
the sheriffs have to squeeze any payment out of Mr Austin, | 0:25:04 | 0:25:08 | |
Lawrence calls his office to organise a tow truck. | 0:25:08 | 0:25:10 | |
All right... | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
Can you give Rob a buzz | 0:25:15 | 0:25:16 | |
and see what removal trucks he's got available? | 0:25:16 | 0:25:20 | |
Cheers, bye. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
But rather that than coming up with the money, | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
ten minutes later, Mr Austin pops into the back | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
and returns with signed SOR agreements for both cars. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
Lawrence can't quite understand it. | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
Right, but you didn't have them just now, | 0:25:38 | 0:25:39 | |
so how have you got signed copies? | 0:25:39 | 0:25:41 | |
-I got them sent through. -From where? -From my accounts woman. | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
Mr Austin is saying the woman who does his accounts has just sent | 0:25:45 | 0:25:49 | |
the documents remotely to his printer. | 0:25:49 | 0:25:51 | |
Lawrence doesn't believe him. | 0:25:51 | 0:25:53 | |
I believe you've just written these up yourself | 0:25:53 | 0:25:56 | |
and signed them yourself, | 0:25:56 | 0:25:57 | |
so I'll just leave the trucks on their way. | 0:25:57 | 0:26:00 | |
I haven't signed them myself, but there you go. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
At this point, Mr Austin says he needs to go and get a car MOTed | 0:26:02 | 0:26:07 | |
and starts to leave. | 0:26:07 | 0:26:08 | |
Right, I've got to go. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
-OK then, sir. -I can't leave you in here. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
You can't throw us out, either. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:15 | |
All right, look, what can I give you in the form of money...? | 0:26:17 | 0:26:20 | |
-You've just said... -No, no. | 0:26:20 | 0:26:21 | |
-From me personally, what...? -You said you couldn't do anything. | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
I will ask the question again, | 0:26:25 | 0:26:27 | |
which I've asked you repeatedly since I've been here - | 0:26:27 | 0:26:30 | |
-what can you pay? -Can I give you 500 quid? | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
-No, it's not enough. -Well, there you go, that's my personal account, | 0:26:33 | 0:26:36 | |
with 663 in it. | 0:26:36 | 0:26:38 | |
I can do you £500 now, | 0:26:38 | 0:26:39 | |
and then we can sort out the terms of the rest of the deal. | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
After seeing a near-empty bank account | 0:26:44 | 0:26:46 | |
and faced with the choice of either £500 | 0:26:46 | 0:26:49 | |
or removing some low-value cars, | 0:26:49 | 0:26:51 | |
which probably don't belong to him anyway, | 0:26:51 | 0:26:54 | |
Lawrence has finally pushed it as far as he can. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
He takes the £500 | 0:26:59 | 0:27:01 | |
and gets Mr Austin to sign up to a repayment plan for £1,000 a month. | 0:27:01 | 0:27:06 | |
There's your receipt and your card. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:10 | |
You've paid £500 today. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:12 | |
-Yep. -You've got to pay £1,000 a month. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
-Yep. -If you fail to stick to the arrangement, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:16 | |
we'll come back and take whatever cars are available at the time. | 0:27:16 | 0:27:19 | |
Yep. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:21 | |
It's not the outcome they wanted, but it's all they could do. | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
Unfortunately, Karden itself, even though it looks good on paper, | 0:27:25 | 0:27:31 | |
doesn't appear to really have any assets. | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
Basically every vehicle's on sale or return, | 0:27:33 | 0:27:35 | |
so Mr Austin paid £500 out of his own account, | 0:27:35 | 0:27:38 | |
basically just to get rid of us | 0:27:38 | 0:27:40 | |
and I've signed him up to £1,000 a month, | 0:27:40 | 0:27:42 | |
which, given that there isn't actually any leverage, | 0:27:42 | 0:27:45 | |
I don't think that was a bad, bad result. | 0:27:45 | 0:27:48 | |
But, you know, we pushed as hard as we could. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:51 | |
Hopefully he'll stick to it. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
Mr Austin told us that the finance on the Porsche was taken out by his company | 0:27:53 | 0:27:57 | |
and would have been cleared if the Lewthwaites hadn't returned the car. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
He says he deducted money from | 0:28:01 | 0:28:03 | |
the refund to cover his costs, | 0:28:03 | 0:28:05 | |
including extra mileage on the car | 0:28:05 | 0:28:07 | |
and a screw in one of the tyres. | 0:28:07 | 0:28:08 | |
He says he only stopped the cheque after | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
the Lewthwaites threatened further legal action, | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
and he says the company tries to act fairly at all times. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 |