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-Meet The Sheriffs... -My name is Mr Grix, my colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:05 | |
It's to do with a High Court order... | 0:00:05 | 0:00:07 | |
They work for the High Court, and if it says you're owed money, | 0:00:07 | 0:00:10 | |
it's their job to go and get it. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
I'm here for £6,072.18. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
They can demand payment on the spot... | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
I'm here for the full balance. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
How are you going to pay it? | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
..or remove assets, instead. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:23 | |
The car will be going unless you can pay it. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
You'll have a week to pay in full, before it gets sold at auction. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Obstructing their work can be a criminal offence. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:32 | |
I wouldn't do that if I were you. | 0:00:32 | 0:00:34 | |
The door needs to stay open. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:36 | |
Every year in England and Wales, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
unpaid debts totalling more than £80 million are recovered by | 0:00:40 | 0:00:44 | |
the sheriffs. | 0:00:44 | 0:00:45 | |
Coming up... Kate Killick is owed three months rent after her student | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
lodger suddenly left without warning. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:57 | |
He rang me one day to say he'd been kicked off the course, | 0:00:57 | 0:01:00 | |
and basically said "tough", | 0:01:00 | 0:01:01 | |
and had no sense that he was ever going to pay the money back. | 0:01:01 | 0:01:05 | |
But when Tommy and Craig confront the man, | 0:01:05 | 0:01:08 | |
he's reluctant to face the facts. | 0:01:08 | 0:01:10 | |
You need to address this, Mr Akbar, otherwise it will be going. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:16 | |
Lawrence is on the trail of £30,000 owed by a financial adviser. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:21 | |
Hello there, sir, looking for Joseph Miller, would that be yourself? | 0:01:21 | 0:01:25 | |
He might not have the cash, but he does have a car. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:28 | |
Silver Citroen, have a look round the corner, | 0:01:28 | 0:01:31 | |
see if he drives off in it. | 0:01:31 | 0:01:32 | |
In the Midlands, enforcement agents Tommy Coyle and Craig Wild are up | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
early. They're in pursuit of a debtor who Craig is convinced has | 0:01:41 | 0:01:45 | |
been avoiding him, and they're about to knock on his door. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:49 | |
On this very damp morning, we're over to Birmingham. | 0:01:49 | 0:01:52 | |
We're off to go and see a Mr Ali Akbar, | 0:01:52 | 0:01:56 | |
who has had several visits from ourselves and notifications have | 0:01:56 | 0:01:59 | |
been left on every single time. | 0:01:59 | 0:02:01 | |
He's failed to respond to it. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:03 | |
Mr Akbar has been taken to court for unpaid rent. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:08 | |
The claimant is Kate Killick, | 0:02:08 | 0:02:10 | |
a beauty therapist and a single mum with two children. | 0:02:10 | 0:02:14 | |
She first met Mr Akbar when she was hoping to make some extra cash by | 0:02:14 | 0:02:18 | |
renting out a spare room in the family home. | 0:02:18 | 0:02:21 | |
The extra income is really important, | 0:02:21 | 0:02:24 | |
because it's whether or not you have a really nice Christmas, | 0:02:24 | 0:02:26 | |
you haven't got to worry about presents for the children. | 0:02:26 | 0:02:30 | |
Kate lives in Shoreham in Sussex, | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
and to find a lodger, she contacted the local airport. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:36 | |
They have a flying school and are often looking for host families | 0:02:36 | 0:02:40 | |
to accommodate trainee pilots. | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
The college put her in touch with Mr Akbar, and she agreed to take him in. | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
Initially he was paying £125 a week, with breakfast, | 0:02:46 | 0:02:51 | |
but he never got up for breakfast, so I just dropped it to 100, | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
it seemed fairer. | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
And in many ways Mr Akbar was the ideal lodger. | 0:02:56 | 0:03:00 | |
He was hardly ever here. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:02 | |
So I never really saw him, it was perfect, really, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:05 | |
from that point of view. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:07 | |
What wasn't so perfect was that after several months, | 0:03:07 | 0:03:10 | |
he began to fall behind with his rent. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
But at first, Kate wasn't worried. | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
When I questioned him, | 0:03:15 | 0:03:17 | |
he said his mum was out the country and he'd have to wait till she got | 0:03:17 | 0:03:20 | |
back in the country and he'd get the rent. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:22 | |
But after Kate hadn't received her rent for three months, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:25 | |
Mr Akbar suddenly pulled the plug on their arrangement. | 0:03:25 | 0:03:28 | |
He rang me one day to say he'd gone into college | 0:03:28 | 0:03:31 | |
and he'd been kicked off the course. | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
So, he'd literally packed his stuff up and gone, | 0:03:33 | 0:03:36 | |
and basically said "Tough", I wouldn't be able to get the rent | 0:03:36 | 0:03:40 | |
money, the arrears. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:42 | |
I did say I would go through the small claims court and he just | 0:03:42 | 0:03:45 | |
basically said, "Good luck with that". | 0:03:45 | 0:03:48 | |
For Kate, it was an upsetting end to the relationship. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
I am very angry with Ali, | 0:03:52 | 0:03:54 | |
because you welcome someone into your home and treat them almost like | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
a member of the family, | 0:03:58 | 0:03:59 | |
give them a lot of trust and believe in their honesty, | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
and they let you down. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
And it's a lot of money to lose, £1,500. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
So, just as she'd promised to do, | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
Kate pursued Mr Akbar through the courts - | 0:04:12 | 0:04:14 | |
a process she found straightforward. | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
And she wasn't surprised at the outcome. | 0:04:17 | 0:04:19 | |
There was a court date set to explain his side and he didn't turn up. | 0:04:19 | 0:04:25 | |
A default judgment was awarded in her favour, | 0:04:25 | 0:04:28 | |
but Kate suspected that wouldn't be the end of it. | 0:04:28 | 0:04:31 | |
Just because someone's told they've got to pay you the money, | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
they're not going to do it. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
So I went online to see what my options were, | 0:04:36 | 0:04:40 | |
and that's when I found out about the sheriffs. | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
It's now down to the sheriffs to get back her lost | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
rent, plus costs and fees. | 0:04:45 | 0:04:47 | |
100%, the sheriffs are my last hope, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:49 | |
because I know he's not going to pay the money. | 0:04:49 | 0:04:52 | |
He just seems to have buried his head in the sand, | 0:04:52 | 0:04:54 | |
he doesn't think he owes me the money. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
He doesn't think there's a legal way that I can get the money, | 0:04:56 | 0:04:59 | |
so he's going to have a surprise. | 0:04:59 | 0:05:01 | |
In Birmingham, enforcement agents Tommy and Craig are arriving at | 0:05:08 | 0:05:12 | |
Mr Akbar's home. They've been here many times before without any joy, | 0:05:12 | 0:05:17 | |
and are now hoping all the legwork they've put in | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
is finally about to pay off. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:22 | |
We've noted a vehicle a couple of times that has been there, | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
it's a sporty Vauxhall. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:29 | |
The DVLA check has come back on that vehicle, | 0:05:29 | 0:05:32 | |
the registered keeper is down to him. | 0:05:32 | 0:05:34 | |
So today's job is to go there, knock the door again, if the car's there, | 0:05:34 | 0:05:38 | |
we'll clamp it straightaway, and we'll try and raise him to the door. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:43 | |
And if he wants to pay it, then that's fine, we'll deal with that, | 0:05:43 | 0:05:46 | |
and if not, unfortunately his car's got to go. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:48 | |
The sheriffs approach Mr Akbar's house with anticipation... | 0:05:48 | 0:05:52 | |
Go right at the end, it'll be on the left-hand side. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:56 | |
..their eyes peeled for the prize asset. | 0:05:56 | 0:05:58 | |
-There it is, that white car there. -That's his car? -That's his car. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:01 | |
I'll park behind it, then. | 0:06:01 | 0:06:03 | |
That's a really good look. | 0:06:03 | 0:06:05 | |
There's the white car, there's the VXR. | 0:06:05 | 0:06:08 | |
Tommy blocks the car in | 0:06:08 | 0:06:10 | |
and they get straight to work. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:12 | |
-Right, that's on. -You done? -Done. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:21 | |
This is what I get all the time here, just no answer. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
They're in, but they just don't answer the door. | 0:06:39 | 0:06:42 | |
And after a few more minutes of trying with no response, | 0:06:42 | 0:06:45 | |
Craig sets the wheels in motion. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
I'm just going to phone the tow truck now. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:51 | |
Hello, it's Craig. Yes, my friend, not too bad. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:55 | |
When we clamp a vehicle and immobilise it, we have to wait | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
two hours, giving them a chance, really, to resolve it, | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
even though we've been knocking at the door. | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
Yeah, we want you here about quarter past ten. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:05 | |
All right, my friend, cheers, thanks a lot, bye-bye. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:08 | |
Contractors are all booked now, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:10 | |
so the cost of that will go on top of their bill. | 0:07:10 | 0:07:13 | |
In our experience, once the tow truck turns up with its amber lights | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
flashing and the engine revving, that usually brings them to the door. | 0:07:16 | 0:07:20 | |
Later, it's a reality check for Mr Akbar, | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
as Tommy and Craig lay down the law. | 0:07:23 | 0:07:25 | |
She's gone to court because... | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
I'm not mad, blud. No, I'm not mad, I'm not mad. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:30 | |
I'm not a bailiff, no, I'm a High Court enforcement agent. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Success for the sheriffs is often down to the value of goods they can | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
find that are owned by the debtor. | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
Even with a court order in hand, demanding large sums without | 0:07:45 | 0:07:49 | |
expensive assets to use as leverage can be very difficult. | 0:07:49 | 0:07:52 | |
This afternoon, Lawrence Grix is alone in South London. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
He might not have sidekick Kev with him, but he does have | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
a High Court writ for a substantial amount of money. | 0:08:03 | 0:08:06 | |
I'm just off to Thornton Heath at the moment, | 0:08:06 | 0:08:09 | |
to a gentleman called Joseph Miller | 0:08:09 | 0:08:12 | |
who's got an estate agents, financial services type office. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:17 | |
He owes just over £30,000. | 0:08:19 | 0:08:21 | |
The claimant said she gave her savings to Mr Miller to put in an | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
investment scheme, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:28 | |
but later when she wanted to withdraw the money, he wouldn't give it back. | 0:08:28 | 0:08:32 | |
She took him to court and won and now Lawrence is on his way to | 0:08:32 | 0:08:36 | |
collect £30,250. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:39 | |
It's a business address, | 0:08:44 | 0:08:46 | |
so we're coming during the working day... | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
Unfortunately, being an estate agents-cum-investment place, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:54 | |
all they're likely to have is a couple of desks and a couple of computers. | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
Hopefully we'll find Mr Miller there and we'll be able to put some kind | 0:08:58 | 0:09:01 | |
of squeeze on him, find some assets to give us some leverage. | 0:09:01 | 0:09:04 | |
If he's got a car and it's been re-financed, | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
then that might be up for grabs. | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
Mr Miller's high street office is certainly unlikely to contain | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
£30,000 worth of assets. Lawrence has got his work cut out. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:18 | |
He finds the shop and parks nearby. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:22 | |
The door is locked, but someone is inside. | 0:09:22 | 0:09:25 | |
Hello, sir. I'm looking for Joseph Miller, would that be yourself? | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
It is indeed Mr Miller, but that's as far as our camera gets. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
Can I show you some ID, sir? | 0:09:39 | 0:09:42 | |
Inside, Lawrence gets to work and explains to Mr Miller that he's here | 0:09:42 | 0:09:46 | |
for his customer's money. | 0:09:46 | 0:09:48 | |
All of it. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:50 | |
Mr Miller's not keen to pay up and just as Lawrence expected, | 0:09:50 | 0:09:54 | |
the goods in the office aren't worth very much. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:56 | |
However, behind the office, | 0:09:59 | 0:10:00 | |
Lawrence has spotted a car with Mr Miller's branding on it. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:05 | |
Mr Miller doesn't deny it belongs to him, but insists it's a tool of the | 0:10:05 | 0:10:08 | |
trade, meaning it's essential for him to carry on his business | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
and Lawrence isn't legally allowed to remove it. | 0:10:12 | 0:10:15 | |
But Lawrence makes a phone call and discovers that the car doesn't have | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
business insurance. Satisfied it can't therefore be for business use, | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
he threatens to remove it. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
Just as he's booking a tow truck, Mr Miller heads to the car. | 0:10:27 | 0:10:31 | |
Silver Citroen, have a look round the corner, see if he drives off in it. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
If he does, there's not a lot Lawrence can do to stop him, | 0:10:37 | 0:10:41 | |
but luckily, his fears are unfounded. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
Mr Miller has only gone to retrieve his briefcase from the boot | 0:10:43 | 0:10:47 | |
before returning inside. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:49 | |
After an hour in the shop, Lawrence is done. | 0:10:49 | 0:10:52 | |
He's paid me £1,000 in cash and I've signed him up for £1,000 a month. | 0:10:54 | 0:10:58 | |
Lawrence would prefer to have the debt paid in full, but under the | 0:10:58 | 0:11:02 | |
circumstances, he's satisfied a payment plan is a good result for the woman | 0:11:02 | 0:11:06 | |
-who is owed the money. -It's a fairly high arrangement, but it's still, | 0:11:06 | 0:11:09 | |
when you compare it to a £30,000 debt, | 0:11:09 | 0:11:12 | |
it'll still take a few years to pay it off with interest going on, | 0:11:12 | 0:11:15 | |
but really that's about the best I can do when you've got no assets to | 0:11:15 | 0:11:18 | |
use as leverage. Bit of a discussion over whether his car was a tool of | 0:11:18 | 0:11:22 | |
the trade. But it wasn't insured for business use, so it wouldn't be | 0:11:22 | 0:11:27 | |
classed as a tool of the trade. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
But that was only probably a few hundred pounds' worth. | 0:11:29 | 0:11:32 | |
It was an old Citroen, and other than that there was a few old | 0:11:32 | 0:11:36 | |
computers and desks and it's just not worth any money. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:39 | |
Without goods to remove, the bargaining powers of the sheriffs is limited. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
Lawrence has managed to get at least some money and an agreement to make | 0:11:46 | 0:11:49 | |
regular repayments. | 0:11:49 | 0:11:51 | |
Since filming Mr Miller has stuck to the arrangement so far and he's | 0:11:51 | 0:11:55 | |
gradually paying back the £30,000 he owes. | 0:11:55 | 0:11:59 | |
Mr Miller told us that his client's money had been invested in property. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:05 | |
He says a slow housing market had delayed the return of funds and the | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
court action resulted because she hadn't been prepared to wait for a | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
property sale to materialise. | 0:12:13 | 0:12:15 | |
In Birmingham, Tommy and Craig are waiting outside the home of | 0:12:25 | 0:12:29 | |
Ali Akbar, who owes a debt of £3,290. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:33 | |
They've clamped his car and a tow truck's on the way, but so far, | 0:12:34 | 0:12:38 | |
in keeping with Craig's previous visits, | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
Mr Akbar himself has yet to come to the door. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:44 | |
This does happen sometimes, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
they just completely go to ground inside and they won't come out until | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
the actual transport arrives to take the vehicle and then someone may | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
come to the door saying, "We didn't know nothing about it and want to | 0:12:55 | 0:12:59 | |
"resolve this", and it's too late, normally. | 0:12:59 | 0:13:02 | |
They have to find a large sum of money very quickly or it'll be going | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
on the back of a truck and away. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
But no sooner has Tommy spoken than a young man walks out of the house. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
-How's it going? -Hello, sir. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:16 | |
Mr Akbar, is it? | 0:13:16 | 0:13:18 | |
Mr Wild from the sheriff's office. | 0:13:18 | 0:13:20 | |
They've sent us out to obviously execute this court order. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:23 | |
Because you owe the money, there's a High Court order. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
The court thinks you do. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
You've had paperwork hand-delivered by the agent here. | 0:13:32 | 0:13:36 | |
No problem at all. | 0:13:36 | 0:13:38 | |
Craig obliges and shows Mr Akbar his writ. | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
And that's the commandment of the courts to endorse and obviously take | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
control of your assets today. | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
Faced with the documents, Mr Akbar finally has a moment of realisation. | 0:13:46 | 0:13:50 | |
Penny's dropped now, has it? | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
It's already been to court, sir. No, it's already been to court. | 0:13:59 | 0:14:03 | |
Exactly, she's gone to court because... | 0:14:04 | 0:14:06 | |
I'm not mad, blud. I'm not mad. | 0:14:06 | 0:14:09 | |
I'm not a bailiff, no, I'm a High Court enforcement agent. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:13 | |
I just explained it to you, I'm a High Court enforcement agent, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:17 | |
I've been here at least three times, left letters for you, | 0:14:17 | 0:14:20 | |
you've failed to respond to that. | 0:14:20 | 0:14:22 | |
Despite seeing the court order, | 0:14:23 | 0:14:25 | |
it seems Mr Akbar is unwilling to recognise the sheriff's authority. | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
Because the law says and the court says | 0:14:30 | 0:14:33 | |
we've got to come here to see you. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
And if you don't deal with it, we've got to deal with it for you. | 0:14:36 | 0:14:39 | |
We don't want to do that. We'd much rather get paid and be on our way. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
The car will be going unless you can pay it. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:49 | |
That's fine. But the law says, | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
you've got the seven days to seek your own legal advice, | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
try and raise the money and if you're successful, | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
then you're entitled to your goods back. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
Mr Akbar clearly doesn't want to pay, but it looks like the sheriff's | 0:15:03 | 0:15:07 | |
ultimatum of removing the car is finally sinking in. | 0:15:07 | 0:15:11 | |
After briefly heading inside to mull it over, | 0:15:11 | 0:15:14 | |
he returns and he's changed his tune. | 0:15:14 | 0:15:17 | |
It has to be the full balance, the reason for that is... | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
You could have before. | 0:15:24 | 0:15:26 | |
It's 8.40 now, you've got until 10.15, and hour and a half. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
If you want to stop the vehicle going. | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
-No problem. -No problem at all, Mr Akbar. | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
The defendant has indicated he might get some money, but the time is | 0:15:40 | 0:15:45 | |
ticking and we told him the deadline to get that money to us. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:48 | |
We've also told him that he has incurred the extra cost | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
of the contractor, because we've commenced them on their way. | 0:15:52 | 0:15:55 | |
So, unfortunately, it's been a very expensive day for Mr Akbar. | 0:15:55 | 0:15:59 | |
As they wait it out in the van, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:01 | |
Mr Akbar again comes to speak to them and he's got a fresh offer. | 0:16:01 | 0:16:05 | |
We can't, it's not a case of us | 0:16:12 | 0:16:15 | |
trying to not be helpful, we do as much as we can, | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
we leave the vehicle clamped for two hours. | 0:16:18 | 0:16:22 | |
This is clamped. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
It's clamped. | 0:16:24 | 0:16:25 | |
There's a clamp on the front. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
Once again, it's taking a while for reality to sink in. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:32 | |
But with his offer of payment gradually increasing, Tommy is | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
quietly confident. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:37 | |
Yeah, a bit more positive that time, | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
could be payment in full coming here, I've got a feeling, | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
I can feel it in the air, coming down the pipes. | 0:16:43 | 0:16:45 | |
But later on, there's another problem | 0:16:45 | 0:16:48 | |
as the car suddenly appears to have a new owner. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
The car's yours now, is it? When did you get it? | 0:16:54 | 0:16:57 | |
Using the county courts to try to recover money you're owed | 0:17:02 | 0:17:05 | |
isn't difficult. | 0:17:05 | 0:17:07 | |
1.5 million money claims are made every year in England and Wales, | 0:17:07 | 0:17:11 | |
involving anything from faulty goods or poor workmanship to unpaid invoices. | 0:17:11 | 0:17:16 | |
Claims can be filed by post or online for a small fee. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:21 | |
Both parties in the case will be asked to submit evidence, | 0:17:21 | 0:17:24 | |
and you may have to attend a court hearing. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
If you're successful, | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
a County Court Judgment, or CCJ, will be issued against the debtor. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:33 | |
And if they still don't pay, that's when you call the sheriffs. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:37 | |
In Birmingham, Tommy and Craig are still trying to recover debt owed by | 0:17:39 | 0:17:43 | |
a Mr Ali Akbar. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
He has finally realised that with a tow truck on the way, | 0:17:46 | 0:17:49 | |
he needs to come up with more than three grand, sharpish, | 0:17:49 | 0:17:52 | |
or else his car will be going. | 0:17:52 | 0:17:55 | |
So far, he's only managed to make offers of part payment, | 0:17:55 | 0:17:58 | |
which have been rejected. | 0:17:58 | 0:18:00 | |
But now, a family member has got involved and is about to throw the | 0:18:00 | 0:18:03 | |
sheriffs a curveball. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
The car's yours now, is it? | 0:18:08 | 0:18:09 | |
When, when did you get it? | 0:18:09 | 0:18:11 | |
You bought it yesterday, did you? | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
Oh, right, so he sold it to you yesterday? | 0:18:13 | 0:18:16 | |
-How much? -How much for, my love? | 0:18:16 | 0:18:17 | |
It is. Oh, it is. We need to see evidence. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:20 | |
Because we need to investigate it, you see, we need... | 0:18:20 | 0:18:23 | |
We can't just, unfortunately, take your word for it. | 0:18:23 | 0:18:26 | |
Moments later, Mr Akbar emerges with a change of registered keeper form. | 0:18:26 | 0:18:30 | |
Right, OK. It's still wet, though, this. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
Craig's having none of it. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
It won't prevent us from removing the vehicle, unfortunately, Ali. | 0:18:38 | 0:18:41 | |
Yeah, unfortunately... | 0:18:43 | 0:18:45 | |
We can speak to her, but the car's still going. | 0:18:45 | 0:18:48 | |
I don't think that's valid, unfortunately. | 0:18:48 | 0:18:50 | |
But the Akbars aren't giving up just yet. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:53 | |
The plot thickens when Craig | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
overhears a conversation in the doorway. | 0:18:55 | 0:18:58 | |
If you want to transfer the money into his account, that's fine. | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
I said, if you want to transfer the money into his... | 0:19:01 | 0:19:05 | |
Well, I can. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:06 | |
Well, it is my business. | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
But if they're thinking of making a bank transfer to complete the sale | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
now, it would be too late. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:18 | |
If there's a money transfer just happening just now, | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
that's going to be irrelevant because we've already took control | 0:19:20 | 0:19:23 | |
of the vehicle, prior to it being sold. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
Meanwhile, Mr Akbar has reappeared on the driveway, | 0:19:26 | 0:19:29 | |
and to Tommy's surprise, gets behind the wheel of another car. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:33 | |
Strange, isn't it? | 0:19:33 | 0:19:35 | |
Yeah, unusual, he seems to be going. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
Perhaps he's gone to get some money. | 0:19:38 | 0:19:40 | |
Perhaps not. But the tow truck's now well on its way, so Tommy and Craig | 0:19:40 | 0:19:45 | |
take the opportunity to do a damage report on his car. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:48 | |
-It's in all right nick, isn't it? -It's not too bad. | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
This wing is, there's something... | 0:19:54 | 0:19:56 | |
It's got, like, it's been pranged, that has. | 0:19:56 | 0:20:00 | |
Driver's side rear wing. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
Time is running out for Mr Akbar, | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
who soon returns, but has he come bearing cash? | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
You all right? Do we know what we're doing? | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
Are we paying it today or not? | 0:20:12 | 0:20:15 | |
Because they're literally ten minutes away. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:17 | |
Once it turns up, they're just going to hook it up. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
All right. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:29 | |
Mr Akbar seems to have given up any hope of hanging onto his car today. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:34 | |
And as the tow truck arrives to take it away, hands over his keys. | 0:20:34 | 0:20:38 | |
Are you going to get it back? Are you... | 0:20:38 | 0:20:40 | |
-In seven days? No? -Do you want to take your stuff out first? | 0:20:40 | 0:20:44 | |
Have you got any personal stuff in there, yeah? | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
Yeah, get your stuff out, mate. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:47 | |
Tommy removes the clamp. | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
Job's a good'un. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:54 | |
And the car's driven onto the back of the truck. | 0:20:54 | 0:20:57 | |
So, yeah, at least he's given the keys up. | 0:20:57 | 0:20:59 | |
Makes it a lot easier, both for himself and for us. | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
If it does go to auction, then at least they've got the key to it, | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
which increases its value. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
Yeah, it's seven days and then they | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
have to put it into a public auction. | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
You can. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:20 | |
Suddenly, it seems Mr Akbar wants to buy his car back at auction, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:24 | |
though it'd make a lot more sense to pay now, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
and just as the truck prepares to drive off, | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
that's exactly what he starts talking about. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:32 | |
If you've got the full balance now... You need it this second. | 0:21:35 | 0:21:39 | |
It's gone. | 0:21:43 | 0:21:44 | |
Mr Akbar has missed his chance. | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
The sheriffs leave their paperwork. | 0:21:49 | 0:21:52 | |
-There you go, my friend. -All right? | 0:21:52 | 0:21:54 | |
Take it easy. Take care of yourself, yeah? | 0:21:54 | 0:21:55 | |
-Ta-ra. -See you later, mate. -And their work is done. | 0:21:55 | 0:21:58 | |
He tried his best to negotiate his way out of us not taking the vehicle | 0:21:58 | 0:22:02 | |
today by trying to transfer ownership. | 0:22:02 | 0:22:04 | |
Even by his own admission, he said, "You've got to try it". | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
-But, unfortunately, it didn't work this time. -Yeah, it's just a classic case of, | 0:22:06 | 0:22:10 | |
don't bury your head in the sand because it won't go away. | 0:22:10 | 0:22:14 | |
The sheriffs are on their way. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
Later the same day, Mr Akbar paid the balance in full | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
and his car was subsequently returned. | 0:22:20 | 0:22:23 | |
Back in Shoreham, Kate Killick has finally got the money she was owed. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:28 | |
Really, really good news. The sheriffs went round. | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
They finally caught up with Ali, and I was able to get my money back, | 0:22:31 | 0:22:35 | |
and it's just really, really nice to know that the law is there to help | 0:22:35 | 0:22:40 | |
people out. I couldn't be happier. Thank you. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
And Kate has some advice for anyone else with an unpaid debt. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:47 | |
Definitely, definitely go through the Small Claims Court because | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
that's why they are there, to help you. You know, it was quite a long process. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
It's been over a year, but we got there in the end. | 0:22:55 | 0:22:58 | |
Today in the West Midlands, Tommy Coyle and Craig Wild's | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
skills are about to be tested. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
So we're in the suburbs of Birmingham again today. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:17 | |
We're off to go and see a Mr Kev Dooley. | 0:23:17 | 0:23:21 | |
Mr Dooley was taken to court by another man several months ago. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:25 | |
He didn't defend the case and a judgment was issued against him by default. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
He now owes £7,381. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:33 | |
The sheriffs have been trying | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
to contact Mr Dooley, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:38 | |
but with no success. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:40 | |
We've been there numerous times before, | 0:23:40 | 0:23:42 | |
had no response at all to our letters, | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
however there's a number of vehicles... | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
..in our guy's name, | 0:23:49 | 0:23:50 | |
so the intention is today to go and remove them, | 0:23:50 | 0:23:54 | |
if he's not going to pay the bill or play ball with us. | 0:23:54 | 0:23:58 | |
They reach Mr Dooley's home address, | 0:23:59 | 0:24:01 | |
and sure enough two of the vehicles they were hoping to find are there. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
Yeah, so that van, which has got four grand's worth of value... | 0:24:06 | 0:24:10 | |
There's a Volkswagen van... | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
That's free of finance. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:14 | |
So we need to get a clamp on that. | 0:24:14 | 0:24:16 | |
And also the CA61 on the drive, yeah? | 0:24:16 | 0:24:18 | |
..and a Vauxhall hatchback. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:20 | |
That's 3,200 quid, that car. | 0:24:20 | 0:24:22 | |
The sheriffs get straight to work. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:25 | |
Tommy clamps the van, while Craig tries the door. | 0:24:25 | 0:24:29 | |
As usual, there's no answer. | 0:24:30 | 0:24:33 | |
There's got to be someone here, hasn't there? | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
There's all these cars here. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
The main rubbish bin's completely empty. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:42 | |
The post is still in the door. | 0:24:42 | 0:24:44 | |
I've got a phone number. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
-Try ringing him. -He does, but it goes straight to answerphone. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:50 | |
Hello, this is a message for Mr Kev Dooley. | 0:24:52 | 0:24:55 | |
I need you to contact me as soon as possible, Mr Dooley. Thank you. | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
Let's order the truck. | 0:25:00 | 0:25:02 | |
-It's all we can do. -It's all we can do, isn't it? | 0:25:02 | 0:25:05 | |
With Mr Dooley owing upwards of £7,000, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
both vehicles will need to be removed to cover the debt. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
But without keys for the car on the drive, | 0:25:13 | 0:25:15 | |
and another car blocking access for the tow truck, | 0:25:15 | 0:25:18 | |
it's not clear if it's going to be possible. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:20 | |
That's going to be a bit of a nightmare, | 0:25:20 | 0:25:22 | |
-getting through there, isn't it? On a flatbed. -More than a nightmare. | 0:25:22 | 0:25:26 | |
Tommy's sceptical, but ever the optimist, | 0:25:26 | 0:25:28 | |
Craig presses ahead and books in the removal of both vehicles. | 0:25:28 | 0:25:32 | |
But just as the sheriffs are gearing up for the removal, | 0:25:32 | 0:25:35 | |
a call comes through from the debtor's mother. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:38 | |
My name's Craig, Craig Wild, I'm an enforcement agent. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
She says that she owns the van, | 0:25:42 | 0:25:44 | |
so doesn't think the sheriffs can remove it, | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
but she's not able to provide proof of her purchase right now. | 0:25:46 | 0:25:50 | |
She's saying that she's purchased the vehicle for him, | 0:25:51 | 0:25:54 | |
to put into his business. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:55 | |
But as we've said, in the absence of proof, | 0:25:55 | 0:25:58 | |
at this late stage it won't prevent the removal from taking place. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
Before long, the first removal truck arrives | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
and the logistical challenge begins. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
Even the van, which was supposed to be the easier of the two, | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
turns out to be harder than expected, | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
thanks to its long wheelbase. | 0:26:13 | 0:26:16 | |
I don't think it'll go on. | 0:26:16 | 0:26:17 | |
Backwards, it doesn't fit, so they try a new strategy. | 0:26:18 | 0:26:22 | |
If he takes it from the front, | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
it will be shorter at the front and you'll be able to get it on, | 0:26:24 | 0:26:26 | |
and have the back end sticking off the back. | 0:26:26 | 0:26:28 | |
And this time, they have more success. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:31 | |
The car, on the other hand, is a different story altogether. | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
The issue is the wheel. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
Obviously with a steering lock on like that, to drag it, | 0:26:39 | 0:26:43 | |
it's going to be a nightmare. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:44 | |
We've conquered worse. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
Tommy's obviously caught Craig's optimism. | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
Drag it from there, I think. | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
And a plan does indeed come together. | 0:26:56 | 0:26:58 | |
The Vauxhall is unceremoniously heaved up onto the truck. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:04 | |
It's not pretty, but it works. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:09 | |
And the car is also soon on its way. | 0:27:09 | 0:27:12 | |
-That's good. -Cheers, thanks. Take care, mate. | 0:27:12 | 0:27:14 | |
Both vehicles will be held for seven days. | 0:27:19 | 0:27:22 | |
If Mr Dooley doesn't come up with the money, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:24 | |
and provided the vehicles do belong to him, | 0:27:24 | 0:27:26 | |
then they'll be sold | 0:27:26 | 0:27:28 | |
and the claimant will finally receive the money they're owed. | 0:27:28 | 0:27:32 | |
Yeah, a bit of a result. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
We've only been here just over the two hours. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
We made some phone calls and tried to make contact at the address, nothing. | 0:27:36 | 0:27:41 | |
So it resulted in two vehicles going. | 0:27:41 | 0:27:43 | |
Following filming, Mr Dooley didn't pay any money towards his debt | 0:27:44 | 0:27:48 | |
and his Vauxhall has been sold at auction. | 0:27:48 | 0:27:52 | |
Meanwhile, the ownership of the van is still in dispute | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
and the matter is with the courts. | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
Mr Dooley told us that he believes he doesn't owe any money | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
and that the case against him was unfounded. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
He says he didn't respond to the court paperwork because | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
his name was spelt incorrectly, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:09 | |
so he didn't believe the letters were for him. | 0:28:09 | 0:28:11 | |
He says he hasn't appealed the judgment | 0:28:11 | 0:28:14 | |
because of the costs involved. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:15 |