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Meet the Sheriffs. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
My name's Mr Grix, my colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:05 | |
It's to do with a High Court order. | 0:00:05 | 0:00:06 | |
They work for the High Court, | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
and if it says you are owed money, it's their job to go and get it. | 0:00:08 | 0:00:12 | |
I am here for £6,072.18. | 0:00:12 | 0:00:16 | |
They can demand payment on the spot... | 0:00:16 | 0:00:18 | |
I'm here for the full balance. | 0:00:18 | 0:00:20 | |
How are you going to pay it? | 0:00:20 | 0:00:21 | |
..or remove assets instead. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
The car will be going unless you can pay it. | 0:00:24 | 0:00:26 | |
You will have a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:29 | |
Obstructing their work can be a criminal offence. | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
-I wouldn't do that, if I were you. -The door needs to stay open. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
Every year in England and Wales, | 0:00:38 | 0:00:40 | |
unpaid debts totalling more than £80 million | 0:00:40 | 0:00:42 | |
are recovered by the sheriffs. | 0:00:42 | 0:00:44 | |
Coming up - Rob Gallon took his car in for a repair | 0:00:48 | 0:00:52 | |
and hasn't seen it since. | 0:00:52 | 0:00:54 | |
The car's very important. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
It's a big part of my life, it's a hell of a big part of my life. | 0:00:56 | 0:00:59 | |
He's now owed thousands of pounds - | 0:00:59 | 0:01:02 | |
but will the sheriffs be able to get it? | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
-Can you keep it shut, please? -I've got every legal right. | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
-Diligent search, they call it. -No, you can't. -Yes, I can. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
Ken won't take no for an answer at a hotel with a debt to pay. | 0:01:11 | 0:01:13 | |
Please start making these phone calls now | 0:01:13 | 0:01:16 | |
to get this money to me now, OK? I'll wait. | 0:01:16 | 0:01:20 | |
Lawrence and Kev are on the hunt for a stables manager | 0:01:20 | 0:01:22 | |
who owes money. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:24 | |
Hello? | 0:01:24 | 0:01:25 | |
No sign of anybody, is there? | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
The place is deserted - but can they get the debtor's attention? | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
HORN BEEPS | 0:01:30 | 0:01:33 | |
Return to the stables immediately, please, | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
so that we can deal with this. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:36 | |
And Tommy and Craig remove not one but two vehicles | 0:01:36 | 0:01:39 | |
from a debtor's driveway. | 0:01:39 | 0:01:41 | |
Today, sheriff Craig Wild is flying solo | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
without his trusted partner, Tommy Coyle. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:54 | |
He's going to visit the director of a car garage | 0:01:54 | 0:01:57 | |
specialising in engine refurbishments. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
We're off to go and see Nitin Kareer | 0:02:00 | 0:02:04 | |
in the centre of Birmingham. | 0:02:04 | 0:02:06 | |
It's to do with a car, just over £6,000. | 0:02:06 | 0:02:10 | |
It all stems from a dispute over the repair of a 4x4, a Mitsubishi L200 | 0:02:10 | 0:02:17 | |
owned by Rob Gallon, who needs an off-road vehicle for work. | 0:02:17 | 0:02:21 | |
Good boy. | 0:02:21 | 0:02:22 | |
We install water mains and water services, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
it's a family-run business | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
and it does require going off onto sites where I have to go off road, | 0:02:27 | 0:02:32 | |
across fields. My personal life, I do some shooting, | 0:02:32 | 0:02:36 | |
so the Mitsubishi L200 was absolutely perfect. | 0:02:36 | 0:02:39 | |
But when the turbo failed, causing piston damage, | 0:02:39 | 0:02:42 | |
Rob decided to get the engine replaced | 0:02:42 | 0:02:45 | |
and started looking for a garage to do the work. | 0:02:45 | 0:02:48 | |
Quality Engine Services from Birmingham, | 0:02:48 | 0:02:51 | |
sounded like a company that knew what they were doing. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:53 | |
I did explain to the guy that I would prefer another engine | 0:02:53 | 0:02:57 | |
in the car and not to rebuild the one that I've got, | 0:02:57 | 0:03:01 | |
and he convinced me that he was the one to put this car right. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:05 | |
The man he dealt with called himself Nick. | 0:03:05 | 0:03:08 | |
A week later, the repair was complete | 0:03:08 | 0:03:11 | |
and Rob went to take a look. | 0:03:11 | 0:03:13 | |
Started it up and it didn't sound right, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:16 | |
and he said, "Oh, it just needs running in." | 0:03:16 | 0:03:18 | |
Anyway, I drove the car home down the motorway, | 0:03:18 | 0:03:21 | |
half a mile away from home it broke down | 0:03:21 | 0:03:24 | |
and spilt all the oil all over the road. | 0:03:24 | 0:03:26 | |
After handing over £2,000 Rob wasn't best pleased - | 0:03:26 | 0:03:31 | |
especially when he inspected the engine | 0:03:31 | 0:03:33 | |
and found it was still the same one. | 0:03:33 | 0:03:35 | |
Nick was apologetic and took the car back for a second time. | 0:03:35 | 0:03:39 | |
The car, again, was supposed to be in the garage | 0:03:39 | 0:03:42 | |
for no more than seven days. | 0:03:42 | 0:03:44 | |
I contacted Nick after nine days | 0:03:45 | 0:03:47 | |
and he said they were having a few problems with a few of the belts | 0:03:47 | 0:03:51 | |
and the auxiliaries, | 0:03:51 | 0:03:53 | |
it should be ready for the weekend. | 0:03:53 | 0:03:55 | |
I rang again at the weekend | 0:03:56 | 0:03:58 | |
and it was Monday it was going to be finished, | 0:03:58 | 0:04:00 | |
and then I rang on Monday and it would be Wednesday, | 0:04:00 | 0:04:03 | |
and it just continued on and on and on. | 0:04:03 | 0:04:06 | |
But some of Nick's reasons for the delay | 0:04:06 | 0:04:08 | |
were difficult to argue with. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
He can't do anything for me at the minute | 0:04:10 | 0:04:12 | |
because his wife had died over the last two weeks, | 0:04:12 | 0:04:15 | |
and that's why the car hadn't been delivered back. | 0:04:15 | 0:04:19 | |
So, Rob gave him some time - | 0:04:19 | 0:04:21 | |
but as weeks became months, | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
he got increasingly worried he was never going to get the car back - | 0:04:23 | 0:04:27 | |
and it wasn't just about the money. It also had sentimental value. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
I owned a Mitsubishi L200 prior to this one | 0:04:32 | 0:04:36 | |
that I had an accident in, in 2008, and it saved my life. | 0:04:36 | 0:04:42 | |
If I was in any other vehicle, I wouldn't be here today - | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
and I didn't drive from 2008 to 2012, | 0:04:45 | 0:04:49 | |
and my wife went and bought me this L200 to get me back out on the road, | 0:04:49 | 0:04:53 | |
get me driving again. So, the car is very important. | 0:04:53 | 0:04:57 | |
It's a big part of my life, it's a hell of a big part of my life. | 0:04:57 | 0:05:00 | |
That was the vehicle that got me back on track, | 0:05:00 | 0:05:02 | |
it started getting our life back together. | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
As Rob's hopes of ever seeing his beloved car again faded, | 0:05:04 | 0:05:08 | |
he began to get desperate. | 0:05:08 | 0:05:10 | |
I contacted Staffordshire Police and West Midlands Police | 0:05:10 | 0:05:14 | |
a number of times to see if they would accompany me | 0:05:14 | 0:05:17 | |
to the garage in Birmingham, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:18 | |
so as I could recover my vehicle. | 0:05:18 | 0:05:21 | |
At this point I was told by the police there was nothing they can do | 0:05:21 | 0:05:24 | |
because this is a civil matter, | 0:05:24 | 0:05:27 | |
and unless Nick hands over the keys to that car, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:32 | |
I legally cannot take that car out of that garage, | 0:05:32 | 0:05:35 | |
or else I'll be charged with theft. | 0:05:35 | 0:05:37 | |
Eventually, the garage offered to sell his car on, | 0:05:37 | 0:05:40 | |
and Rob reluctantly agreed, | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
thinking it was the only way out - | 0:05:42 | 0:05:44 | |
but he never received any money, | 0:05:44 | 0:05:46 | |
apart from a refund of the £2,000 he'd already spent on the repair. | 0:05:46 | 0:05:50 | |
His bank statement | 0:05:51 | 0:05:53 | |
revealed the money came from Rocco Motor Solutions Limited. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:56 | |
Presuming this to be the company behind the trading name | 0:05:56 | 0:05:59 | |
Quality Engine Services, | 0:05:59 | 0:06:00 | |
Rob took its director, Nitin Kareer, to court for the value of the car. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:05 | |
My initial thoughts were, "I can't wait to get this guy in court," | 0:06:05 | 0:06:09 | |
but that never happened, because he never responded to any letter | 0:06:09 | 0:06:13 | |
or any correspondence from the courts at all. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:16 | |
Rob was awarded a County Court judgment in his favour by default, | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
and when Mr Kareer didn't pay it, | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
put the matter in the hands of the sheriffs. | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
They're most certainly my last hope. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:27 | |
I don't think there's any other way that I can get this sorted. | 0:06:27 | 0:06:33 | |
In Birmingham, Craig is approaching the garage. | 0:06:40 | 0:06:44 | |
There it is, on the left. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:47 | |
There's no name above the door, | 0:06:47 | 0:06:49 | |
and no mention of Quality Engine Services - | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
but that's no concern to Craig. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
There's only one name on his writ, a Mr Nitin Kareer, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:57 | |
and that's who he needs to find. | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
Hello. Is the boss about? | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
Can he be contacted at all? | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
Is it a Nitin Kareer or something? | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
If you can get him on the phone, mate, I'll have a chat with him. | 0:07:11 | 0:07:13 | |
While the staff member goes off to phone the boss, | 0:07:13 | 0:07:16 | |
Craig is pleased to have verification | 0:07:16 | 0:07:18 | |
that this is indeed the debtor's business. | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
He's confirmed that our guy is the boss. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
It just depends what... who owns the assets here, | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
whether it's him personally or whether it's a limited company. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:31 | |
We'll see how it goes. | 0:07:31 | 0:07:33 | |
A few minutes later, the man returns | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
and says the boss is on his way. | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
-He's coming down. -Oh, he's coming down. | 0:07:37 | 0:07:40 | |
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah. | 0:07:40 | 0:07:42 | |
There's so far no indication | 0:07:43 | 0:07:45 | |
of whether Mr Kareer is planning to pay - | 0:07:45 | 0:07:47 | |
but if he isn't, then Craig's best hope of persuading him to do so | 0:07:47 | 0:07:52 | |
will be threatening to remove his assets. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
The problem is, anything here owned by his company, | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
rather than by him personally, would be off limits. | 0:07:57 | 0:08:01 | |
So while he waits for him to arrive, Craig turns detective... | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
I'm still going to try and look around the place, | 0:08:05 | 0:08:07 | |
try and get some evidence that our guy, as an individual, | 0:08:07 | 0:08:10 | |
trades from here, as opposed to his company. | 0:08:10 | 0:08:13 | |
..and it doesn't take long | 0:08:13 | 0:08:14 | |
before he stumbles across something of interest. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:17 | |
I've located some of the invoices | 0:08:17 | 0:08:18 | |
that they used for recent sort of parts | 0:08:18 | 0:08:21 | |
and it's all in the name of his limited company, | 0:08:21 | 0:08:23 | |
Rocco Motor Solutions, Limited, | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
so, unfortunately, it's looking like our | 0:08:25 | 0:08:27 | |
guy trades under a limited company here, so not as an individual. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:32 | |
It's bad news for Craig, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
as it looks like he'll need to persuade the debtor to pay up | 0:08:34 | 0:08:37 | |
without having any leverage to negotiate with. | 0:08:37 | 0:08:41 | |
Mr Kareer hasn't shown up yet, either, | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
and soon, one of the mechanics hands Craig a phone. | 0:08:43 | 0:08:46 | |
Who's this? Nitin, yeah? | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
Yash? | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
I'm trying to get in contact with Nitin. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
It's an outstanding High Court writ. | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
It's not Mr Kareer on the phone, | 0:08:59 | 0:09:00 | |
so Craig can't go into the case details | 0:09:00 | 0:09:03 | |
unless they are authorised by the defendant to do so. | 0:09:03 | 0:09:07 | |
Craig emphasises that someone, preferably Mr Kareer, | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
needs to come to the garage to sort it out... | 0:09:10 | 0:09:13 | |
..and soon, a man arrives. | 0:09:14 | 0:09:16 | |
-Can you come outside? -I'm not coming outside, I'm waiting here, | 0:09:16 | 0:09:19 | |
I'll have a discussion with you in the office, yeah. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:21 | |
-Yeah, come inside my office. -Yeah. What relation are you to Nitin? | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
-I'm his friend. -You're his friend? -Yeah. -Right. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:26 | |
-What? -I'm here under a High Court writ | 0:09:26 | 0:09:28 | |
for a balance outstanding of £6,072.18. | 0:09:28 | 0:09:31 | |
-The claimant is a Mr Robert Gallon. -Oh, he's took us to court? | 0:09:31 | 0:09:35 | |
-That's right. -I don't know nothing about it. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:37 | |
I have overtook from Nitin, and we are going to only just do parts, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
-we've got nothing else to do. -Right. -Or anything like that. | 0:09:40 | 0:09:43 | |
Despite a staff member telling Craig that Nitin Kareer was the boss, | 0:09:43 | 0:09:48 | |
this man is claiming he's in charge and Nitin no longer works here. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:53 | |
If so, then Craig will have difficulty enforcing the debt - | 0:09:53 | 0:09:56 | |
but later, he finds more clues which cast doubt on the man's story. | 0:09:56 | 0:10:01 | |
I've got invoices proving that he's trading from here. | 0:10:01 | 0:10:04 | |
I'll always try and help people out - | 0:10:04 | 0:10:06 | |
but what I don't like being is being mugged off, do you know what I mean? | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Using the County Courts to try to recover money you're owed | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
isn't difficult. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:22 | |
One and a half million money claims are made every year | 0:10:22 | 0:10:24 | |
in England and Wales, | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
involving anything from faulty goods or poor workmanship, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
to unpaid invoices. | 0:10:29 | 0:10:30 | |
Claims can be filed by post or online for a small fee. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:35 | |
Both parties in the case will be asked to submit evidence, | 0:10:35 | 0:10:39 | |
and you may have to attend a court hearing. | 0:10:39 | 0:10:41 | |
If you're successful, a County Court judgment, or CCJ, | 0:10:41 | 0:10:45 | |
will be issued against the debtor - | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
and if they still don't pay, that's when you call the sheriffs. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:51 | |
Sheriffs typically enforce over 1,000 writs every year, | 0:10:55 | 0:10:59 | |
and while each one is different, | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
enforcement agents often find diplomacy is more effective | 0:11:01 | 0:11:04 | |
than simply threatening to remove everything in sight. | 0:11:04 | 0:11:08 | |
If it's necessary to play the long game, Ken Warby is happy to do so. | 0:11:10 | 0:11:14 | |
He just wants his clients' money back. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:17 | |
We're going to visit a hotel called the Stuart Hotel in Luton. | 0:11:17 | 0:11:21 | |
It's a sizeable hotel, by all accounts. | 0:11:21 | 0:11:24 | |
The hotel has been taken to court by a linen company | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
over unpaid invoices. | 0:11:28 | 0:11:31 | |
I'd imagine it's for tablecloths and bed linen, et cetera. | 0:11:31 | 0:11:36 | |
Dry cleaning. | 0:11:36 | 0:11:37 | |
The hotel didn't defend the case in court | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
so a default judgment was issued against it - | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
but more than three months later it remains unpaid, | 0:11:43 | 0:11:46 | |
and now Ken needs to collect £6,276. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
From the outside, the hotel does indeed seem sizeable, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:57 | |
and so looks promising for a payment. | 0:11:57 | 0:12:00 | |
I would imagined there's quite a few assets in there - | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
bar area, wet stock. | 0:12:03 | 0:12:05 | |
There's always an office, PC equipment, TVs in each room. | 0:12:05 | 0:12:10 | |
So, hopefully, we'll get somewhere. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:12 | |
Ken heads in to tell them those assets are in jeopardy | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
unless they can pay up. | 0:12:17 | 0:12:19 | |
Hello. I'd like to speak to the MD. Person in charge? If possible. | 0:12:19 | 0:12:23 | |
He's not available at the moment. | 0:12:23 | 0:12:26 | |
-Would you like to come back later on? -Not really. | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
-Is he in the building? -No, he's not. He just left. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
-He will be here in one hour, probably. -About an hour? -Yeah. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
Is there any chance you can get him on the phone? It's quite important. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:39 | |
The receptionist does just that, | 0:12:39 | 0:12:42 | |
and moments later she's back with the manager on the line. | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
What it's about... | 0:12:46 | 0:12:47 | |
You're two minutes away? Brilliant. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:50 | |
All right, I'll see you face-to-face. | 0:12:50 | 0:12:52 | |
Thank you. Cheers, sir. | 0:12:52 | 0:12:53 | |
With the manager on the way, | 0:12:55 | 0:12:56 | |
Ken takes the opportunity to size up the assets on show - | 0:12:56 | 0:13:00 | |
and after years in the trade, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:02 | |
he knows exactly what he's looking for. | 0:13:02 | 0:13:05 | |
Hotel's set out quite nice. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
Good-quality dining furniture. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:11 | |
All proper heavy metal, chrome. Leather-backed. | 0:13:11 | 0:13:17 | |
They've got some good equipment down here. | 0:13:17 | 0:13:19 | |
It's always nice to see some assets as soon as you walk in. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
True to his word, the manager arrives moments later... | 0:13:24 | 0:13:28 | |
Hello. | 0:13:29 | 0:13:30 | |
..and Ken follows him into the office. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:32 | |
Right, sir, this is regarding a High Court judgment. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:38 | |
Ken is just about to explain his writ, | 0:13:38 | 0:13:41 | |
but, refreshingly, this time it's not necessary. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:44 | |
You know exactly what this is about, do you? | 0:13:44 | 0:13:46 | |
The manager said the hotel is under new management | 0:13:53 | 0:13:56 | |
and the debt was incurred by the previous owner. | 0:13:56 | 0:13:58 | |
As the debt in the business's name it still needs paying, | 0:13:58 | 0:14:02 | |
and luckily the new owners agree. | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
Wonderful. | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
Ooh, I was hoping you wouldn't say that. | 0:14:12 | 0:14:14 | |
I was hoping you would say, "Right now". | 0:14:14 | 0:14:16 | |
The court order was issued months ago, | 0:14:16 | 0:14:19 | |
so it's Ken's job to get it paid as soon as possible. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
-We could... -What can you get me now? | 0:14:22 | 0:14:25 | |
That's fine. What can you pay tomorrow? | 0:14:29 | 0:14:31 | |
It's a bit of a letdown for Ken - | 0:14:33 | 0:14:36 | |
but given that they acknowledge the debt | 0:14:36 | 0:14:38 | |
and seem to have a plan for its repayment, | 0:14:38 | 0:14:40 | |
he doesn't feel the need to threaten to empty the rooms | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
and force the hotel to close its doors. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:45 | |
Your total due, including charges, £6,276. | 0:14:45 | 0:14:51 | |
-What I need to do is I need to list the assets here. -OK. | 0:14:51 | 0:14:55 | |
So, what do you have other than what I've seen in the reception area? | 0:14:55 | 0:14:59 | |
On the ground floor. | 0:14:59 | 0:15:01 | |
-60 bedrooms? -Yeah. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:04 | |
Kitchen area? | 0:15:04 | 0:15:05 | |
There's a kitchen area. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
When a debtor can't pay, | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
sheriffs have the option of agreeing a repayment plan | 0:15:09 | 0:15:12 | |
and taking control of their assets. | 0:15:12 | 0:15:14 | |
As this is a sizeable debt, Ken's list needs to be long - | 0:15:14 | 0:15:18 | |
but luckily there's no shortage of items here. | 0:15:18 | 0:15:21 | |
Glass washer, ice machine. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:23 | |
Bar chiller cabinets. | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
His comprehensive list is also designed | 0:15:27 | 0:15:30 | |
to make sure the manager knows he really does mean business... | 0:15:30 | 0:15:33 | |
And now I'm just going to do the kitchen | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
and then I'll do a rough guesstimate | 0:15:37 | 0:15:39 | |
as to how much value we've got there, | 0:15:39 | 0:15:42 | |
before making a decision of whether or not to go to the rooms | 0:15:42 | 0:15:45 | |
and maybe look for the TV sets. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:46 | |
..but by the time he's been through the hotel's kitchen, | 0:15:48 | 0:15:51 | |
he's already got page after page of assets listed. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
Satisfied it's enough, he completes the paperwork... | 0:15:54 | 0:15:59 | |
That's £1,000 tomorrow, followed by 5,276.56 next Wednesday. | 0:15:59 | 0:16:06 | |
..and is on his way. | 0:16:06 | 0:16:07 | |
Thanks very much. | 0:16:07 | 0:16:09 | |
I'm sure you'll get that done. | 0:16:09 | 0:16:10 | |
I look forward to it. Cheers. | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
He hasn't been paid, but Ken's happy he's made the right call for now. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:17 | |
He was really nice, and it's a lovely hotel. | 0:16:17 | 0:16:22 | |
If I was to go in there and start unplugging things, | 0:16:22 | 0:16:25 | |
it would basically shut the place down. | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
So he's promised me £1,000 tomorrow, | 0:16:28 | 0:16:30 | |
and the balance is going to be paid in six days' time. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:35 | |
He's pretty confident of that, I'm confident that he's confident. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:39 | |
Everyone's happy. I am for now. | 0:16:39 | 0:16:41 | |
Ken's taken the man at his word, | 0:16:42 | 0:16:45 | |
but later he's forced to visit the business for a second time. | 0:16:45 | 0:16:50 | |
You have broken the controlled goods agreement. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
So the reason we're here now is for full payment | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
or removal of goods. | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
It's as black and as white as that. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
In Birmingham, Craig's chasing more than £6,000 at a garage. | 0:17:13 | 0:17:17 | |
A customer, Rob Gallon, put his car in for repair but never got it back. | 0:17:17 | 0:17:22 | |
When he first arrived, Craig thought he had confirmed | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
that the man he's looking for is in charge here... | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
Is the boss about? | 0:17:27 | 0:17:28 | |
Is it a Nitin Kareer or something? | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
-Come inside. -Yeah, yeah. | 0:17:33 | 0:17:35 | |
..but this man has since arrived, saying he's the boss - | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
and he's called Mr Ali... | 0:17:38 | 0:17:40 | |
I have overtook from Nitin and we are just going to do parts. | 0:17:40 | 0:17:45 | |
..and now someone else is on the phone. | 0:17:45 | 0:17:48 | |
-Is that Nitin? -It's Ash. | 0:17:48 | 0:17:51 | |
-This is Ash. -Yeah. | 0:17:51 | 0:17:52 | |
Hello, Ash. You're taking over the premises, yeah, to sell parts? | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
Ash says he's Nitin's cousin and, along with Mr Ali, | 0:17:57 | 0:18:01 | |
took over the business six months ago... | 0:18:01 | 0:18:03 | |
..but as Craig flicks through the paperwork on the desk, | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
he finds Nitin Kareer's name is all over it. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
Old letters? | 0:18:12 | 0:18:13 | |
Yeah, these are old letters, they're old letters. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
-How many other letters have they got? -They are old letters. | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
We haven't got any letters coming in yet. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
-That's for the water. -That's old. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
It's still the water, innit? | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
Their story isn't adding up. | 0:18:24 | 0:18:26 | |
Everything I'm looking at now, at the moment, | 0:18:28 | 0:18:30 | |
is obviously your cousin's details on it. | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
I know, I appreciate you're saying he's not, | 0:18:34 | 0:18:36 | |
but if you were going to take over a premises, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
you'd change the water, you'd change the gas, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:40 | |
you'd change the electric as a matter of course, wouldn't you? | 0:18:40 | 0:18:43 | |
Ash, I'm looking at an invoice here, 27th of September, | 0:18:43 | 0:18:46 | |
addressed to your cousin's company. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:49 | |
That isn't April, is it? | 0:18:49 | 0:18:50 | |
You took over in April, he shouldn't even be trading from here. | 0:18:50 | 0:18:54 | |
Yet I've got invoices proving that he's trading from here. | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
Although he still hasn't got any proof there are assets here | 0:18:57 | 0:19:00 | |
in the debtor's name personally, | 0:19:00 | 0:19:02 | |
he has at least got the people he's dealing with on the back foot. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:06 | |
Perhaps that'll be enough to ramp up the pressure and get a payment. | 0:19:06 | 0:19:10 | |
You need to get your cousin, | 0:19:10 | 0:19:12 | |
talk to me, and then hopefully I can try and help him out. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:14 | |
I'll always try and help people out, | 0:19:14 | 0:19:16 | |
but what I don't like being is being mugged off. Do you know what I mean? | 0:19:16 | 0:19:20 | |
He's going to call me. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:21 | |
While Craig waits to finally hear from Mr Kareer, | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
he decides to do a bit more investigating. | 0:19:24 | 0:19:27 | |
I've got every legal right. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:30 | |
Legal rights for what? | 0:19:30 | 0:19:32 | |
-Diligent search, they call it. -No, you can't. -Yes, I can. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:35 | |
-No, you can't. -Yes, I can. -Can't. -Yes, I can. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:37 | |
Craig does have the law on his side, | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
and any attempts to stop his diligent search | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
could quickly become a matter for the police. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:46 | |
Luckily, the situation calms down, | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
Mr Ali lets Craig carry on, before again handing him his phone... | 0:19:49 | 0:19:53 | |
Is he on the phone, is he? | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
..but he is not the elusive Mr Kareer. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:58 | |
Once more, it's his cousin Ash. | 0:19:58 | 0:20:01 | |
Hiya, Ash. | 0:20:01 | 0:20:03 | |
He's still saying the debt's got nothing to do with him | 0:20:03 | 0:20:06 | |
and he doesn't want to pay. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:08 | |
As I explained, Ash, | 0:20:08 | 0:20:09 | |
and as I explained to your business partner here, Mr Ali, | 0:20:09 | 0:20:12 | |
I'm here with a court order for six grand, mate, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:14 | |
and my job today is to collect that money | 0:20:14 | 0:20:16 | |
under the terms of the High Court writ of control. | 0:20:16 | 0:20:18 | |
Because money talks, that's the thing. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:21 | |
Finally, Craig's persuasive techniques land on target. | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
Perhaps realising that he isn't going to go away, | 0:20:24 | 0:20:27 | |
Ash says he owes his cousin some money. | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
He says he's willing to pay part of the debt for him | 0:20:30 | 0:20:33 | |
and offers £1,000. | 0:20:33 | 0:20:35 | |
Yeah, I'll make a phone call first, yeah, and I'll come back to you. | 0:20:35 | 0:20:39 | |
If that's acceptable, then I'll leave a letter here for your cousin, | 0:20:39 | 0:20:44 | |
but he has to deal with it. This is a personal liability. | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
He needs to get in contact with our office, | 0:20:47 | 0:20:49 | |
and then he can sort an arrangement out to pay the balance off | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
over a period of time, if he can't pay it in one go. | 0:20:52 | 0:20:55 | |
Craig checks with his office, and the offer is accepted. | 0:20:55 | 0:20:58 | |
Mr Ali makes the payment on a card, and Craig issues a receipt, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:02 | |
along with the letter for Mr Kareer, asking him to contact the sheriffs | 0:21:02 | 0:21:06 | |
to pay the remainder of the debt. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:09 | |
-Thank you very much. -Sorry for your... -No problem at all. | 0:21:09 | 0:21:12 | |
It's not the perfect outcome, | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
but given that neither the debtor | 0:21:14 | 0:21:16 | |
nor any sign of his assets were present, | 0:21:16 | 0:21:18 | |
Craig's satisfied he's done the best he can. | 0:21:18 | 0:21:21 | |
All in all, I think it's a good result | 0:21:21 | 0:21:23 | |
for the claimant at the moment. | 0:21:23 | 0:21:24 | |
Most of the assets there are in the limited company name, | 0:21:24 | 0:21:27 | |
not personal to our guy. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
However, took the £1,000 and best result we could get out of that. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:34 | |
Back in Staffordshire, | 0:21:36 | 0:21:37 | |
Rob Gallon is disappointed | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
that the sheriffs weren't able to recover the full amount - | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
but is at least glad to see things moving in the right direction. | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
It's something I've been fighting this guy for well over 12 months. | 0:21:46 | 0:21:50 | |
We have had some luck. | 0:21:50 | 0:21:51 | |
We've recovered £1,000, so we are getting somewhere with it. | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
Mr Kareer did subsequently make contact with the sheriffs | 0:21:56 | 0:22:00 | |
and offer to make payments of £40 a week to clear his debt. | 0:22:00 | 0:22:04 | |
However, Mr Gallon rejected this, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:07 | |
opting instead to hold out for a better offer or payment in full. | 0:22:07 | 0:22:11 | |
So far, the sheriffs haven't been able to recover | 0:22:11 | 0:22:14 | |
any more of his money. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
Goods and services must meet expectations, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
or else the buyer is usually entitled to their money back. | 0:22:21 | 0:22:25 | |
Much of the sheriffs' work concerns cases like these, | 0:22:25 | 0:22:28 | |
and while they might feel they've seen it all, | 0:22:28 | 0:22:31 | |
there are still jobs that throw up surprises. | 0:22:31 | 0:22:34 | |
In the South-east, enforcement agents Lawrence Grix and Kev McNally | 0:22:36 | 0:22:40 | |
are heading into the countryside. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:42 | |
We are in Horsham in West Sussex today. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
We're going to West Sussex Livery. | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
The debt is relating to... | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
HE CHUCKLES | 0:22:55 | 0:22:56 | |
Is that a wind-up? | 0:22:58 | 0:23:01 | |
What is the debt relating to? | 0:23:01 | 0:23:02 | |
Kev can barely believe it, | 0:23:04 | 0:23:05 | |
but the dispute began with the purchase of some horse semen, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:10 | |
as Lawrence explains. | 0:23:10 | 0:23:12 | |
Apparently, our claimant's mare, um, | 0:23:12 | 0:23:16 | |
was due to be impregnated by the debtor's stallion - | 0:23:16 | 0:23:19 | |
I don't know if it was artificial or if they actually covered the mare - | 0:23:19 | 0:23:22 | |
but the mare didn't get pregnant. | 0:23:22 | 0:23:25 | |
Test results on the stallion's semen revealed it was substandard, | 0:23:26 | 0:23:30 | |
and was therefore unlikely to result in a pregnancy. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:33 | |
This is basically the money she paid for the... | 0:23:33 | 0:23:36 | |
..for the duff semen. | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:23:40 | 0:23:41 | |
It may not be your typical case, but the law works the same nonetheless. | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
After the mare's owner was refused a refund, | 0:23:47 | 0:23:49 | |
she took West Sussex Livery to court - and won. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:53 | |
That was six months ago, and with costs and fees, | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
the stables now owes £2,273. | 0:23:56 | 0:24:00 | |
Kev reckons he's got a pretty good idea | 0:24:04 | 0:24:06 | |
of what assets they're likely to find. | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
There's going to be stuff to remove at a stables, you presume. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:13 | |
I suppose, potentially, horses but, in reality, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:18 | |
that's not going to be happening. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:19 | |
But if that's the only asset they've got, we have to take it. | 0:24:19 | 0:24:22 | |
We're not going to take any horses. | 0:24:22 | 0:24:24 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:24:24 | 0:24:25 | |
-Yeah. -Oh, this is it, yeah, look, look, look. | 0:24:26 | 0:24:29 | |
They've found it, and they head in to look for the owner, | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
a woman called Anne Hawes. | 0:24:32 | 0:24:33 | |
Hello? | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
Hello? | 0:24:37 | 0:24:39 | |
-Hello? -Anybody around? | 0:24:39 | 0:24:41 | |
But the only signs of life are either equine... | 0:24:41 | 0:24:44 | |
Horses. Big heads. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:46 | |
..or canine. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:47 | |
There's dogs here. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:49 | |
Hello, pups. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
They might be cute, but the sheriffs didn't come here for puppies. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:56 | |
-Hello? -There's no sign of anybody, is there? | 0:24:56 | 0:24:59 | |
Deserted. | 0:24:59 | 0:25:01 | |
Where is everyone, Lawrence? | 0:25:01 | 0:25:03 | |
-Don't know, mate. -Do you not think that's odd? | 0:25:03 | 0:25:06 | |
Someone has been here recently. Everything's open, | 0:25:06 | 0:25:10 | |
there's half a dozen horses and the stables are clearly working. | 0:25:10 | 0:25:13 | |
Whether they've made themselves scarce | 0:25:14 | 0:25:16 | |
after seeing the sheriffs arrive, or just popped out for lunch, | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
without making contact, there's not much Lawrence and Kev can do. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:23 | |
Feel like we're in the Walking Dead. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:27 | |
I can't believe there's nobody here. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
They're in a sticky situation. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:36 | |
The animals and equipment here | 0:25:36 | 0:25:37 | |
could well belong to clients of the stables, | 0:25:37 | 0:25:40 | |
and there's no way of knowing what, if anything, belongs to the debtor. | 0:25:40 | 0:25:44 | |
-I don't think anyone's here, Lawrence. -I don't. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
Lawrence has a number for the woman who runs the place, | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
but gets no answer. | 0:25:50 | 0:25:51 | |
This is a message for Anne Hawes. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
My name is Mr Grix. I'm an enforcement agent. | 0:25:54 | 0:25:57 | |
I've got a High Court writ against West Sussex Livery. | 0:25:57 | 0:25:59 | |
I'm actually at the stables at the moment. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:02 | |
Would you be able to ring me back, please, | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
or return to the stables immediately, please, | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
so that we can deal with this? Thank you. | 0:26:06 | 0:26:08 | |
Kev makes a final desperate plea to get someone's attention... | 0:26:10 | 0:26:13 | |
HE BEEPS HORN | 0:26:14 | 0:26:16 | |
..but even that goes unheard. | 0:26:19 | 0:26:21 | |
It appears deserted, | 0:26:21 | 0:26:23 | |
but you wouldn't expect them to just disappear, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:25 | |
so we're just going to sit here for a little while | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
in case somebody comes back - | 0:26:28 | 0:26:30 | |
or, as is sometimes the case, on jobs like this, | 0:26:30 | 0:26:33 | |
the first thing you know is the police turn up. | 0:26:33 | 0:26:35 | |
People put in a call to the police | 0:26:35 | 0:26:37 | |
saying "Oh, there's people on my land, | 0:26:37 | 0:26:39 | |
"there's people doing this, people doing that." | 0:26:39 | 0:26:41 | |
After waiting it out, | 0:26:44 | 0:26:45 | |
there's still no sign of either the police or the debtor, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
and, eventually, they have to call it a day. | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
They take down the registration numbers of the vehicles here | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
so that they can run some checks. | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
Lawrence prepares some paperwork, and with nowhere better to leave it, | 0:26:57 | 0:27:00 | |
Kev tucks it under the gate latch as they leave. | 0:27:00 | 0:27:03 | |
Anyone getting in is seeing that. | 0:27:04 | 0:27:07 | |
The job might seem like it's a bit of a 'mare but, in fact, | 0:27:07 | 0:27:11 | |
it turns out to be quite the opposite. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
While the sheriffs never managed to meet Ms Hawes in person, | 0:27:14 | 0:27:18 | |
the paperwork does have the desired effect. | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
Shortly after their visit, she paid the £2,273 owing, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:25 | |
and the claimant has finally got their money back. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
Ken Warby is back in Luton. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:36 | |
He's on his way once again to the Stuart Hotel, | 0:27:36 | 0:27:39 | |
which owes more than £6,000 after failing to pay a linen company. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:45 | |
Last time, the manager told Ken he couldn't pay there and then, | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
and promised to do so within the week - | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
but the money hasn't arrived. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:53 | |
The original payment plan was | 0:27:53 | 0:27:55 | |
that he was going to pay me £1,000 the day after - | 0:27:55 | 0:27:59 | |
which he never did, that took about a week - | 0:27:59 | 0:28:02 | |
and the balance within six days. | 0:28:02 | 0:28:04 | |
Well, we are where we are now. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:06 | |
14 days later, he's only paid the £1,000. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:10 | |
Previously, Ken gave the manager the benefit of the doubt, | 0:28:10 | 0:28:14 | |
but this time Ken won't compromise. | 0:28:14 | 0:28:17 | |
The leverage we've got is that he's signed a controlled goods agreement. | 0:28:17 | 0:28:22 | |
If he doesn't pay, it's my intention to remove the items. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:26 | |
When a CGA is broken, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:30 | |
the sheriffs can return at any time to remove the assets - | 0:28:30 | 0:28:34 | |
no ifs, no buts. | 0:28:34 | 0:28:36 | |
Hello, again. | 0:28:37 | 0:28:39 | |
Once again, he's led into the office, | 0:28:41 | 0:28:43 | |
where, to his surprise, the manager hands him a payment receipt. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:47 | |
-This is a receipt you've got for online payment. -Yeah. | 0:28:47 | 0:28:50 | |
You made yesterday, for £1,000. | 0:28:50 | 0:28:52 | |
The problem is... | 0:28:52 | 0:28:54 | |
you have broken the controlled goods agreement. | 0:28:54 | 0:28:56 | |
So the reason we're here now | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
is for full payment or removal of goods. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:05 | |
As black and as white as that. | 0:29:05 | 0:29:07 | |
And that's not the only bad news for the manager... | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
The problem you've also got is that because I'm here now | 0:29:11 | 0:29:15 | |
to remove goods, it's gone up. | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
So, with the £2,000 you've already paid... | 0:29:19 | 0:29:22 | |
..the amount you owe now is £5,901.09. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:30 | |
High Court costs. Very expensive. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:32 | |
..but the manager says he doesn't have £5,000 | 0:29:34 | 0:29:37 | |
and hands his phone over to Ken. | 0:29:37 | 0:29:39 | |
Who am I talking to? | 0:29:39 | 0:29:40 | |
You're his friend? | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
The man on the phone says the hotel is trying to come to an arrangement | 0:29:44 | 0:29:47 | |
with the claimant to clear the debt. | 0:29:47 | 0:29:50 | |
The last contact we had with the claimant | 0:29:50 | 0:29:53 | |
was that he had given it to us to deal with. | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
It's in our hands and, as far as he's concerned, | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
he wants his payment. | 0:30:00 | 0:30:01 | |
But the man is still hoping to do a deal, | 0:30:01 | 0:30:05 | |
and says they can clear the debt in a couple of months. | 0:30:05 | 0:30:07 | |
No, it's not acceptable, sir. | 0:30:08 | 0:30:10 | |
No, sir. No, sir. We require payment in full now - | 0:30:10 | 0:30:13 | |
and unfortunately it's gone up, because we're here to remove goods. | 0:30:13 | 0:30:18 | |
Yeah, it has gone up to the tune of £5,901, | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
and it'll go up a further £300, | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
should a van turn up here to remove goods. | 0:30:29 | 0:30:31 | |
With a long list of hotel assets | 0:30:31 | 0:30:33 | |
that now technically belong to the court, | 0:30:33 | 0:30:36 | |
Ken wants full payment - and it's not up for negotiation. | 0:30:36 | 0:30:40 | |
I'm here now to remove goods now. | 0:30:40 | 0:30:43 | |
So rather than us waste any more time, | 0:30:43 | 0:30:45 | |
please start making these phone calls now | 0:30:45 | 0:30:48 | |
to get this money to me now. OK? I'll wait. | 0:30:48 | 0:30:51 | |
No, I'm not going to go away and come back again, I'm here now. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:58 | |
Please start making the phone calls, | 0:30:58 | 0:31:00 | |
I'll wait here for the payments. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:03 | |
Believe me, the last thing I want to do | 0:31:04 | 0:31:06 | |
is start removing goods from here. | 0:31:06 | 0:31:08 | |
But that's exactly what will happen if he doesn't pay - | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
and Ken reckons the threat is working. | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
It's gone from two months to four hours. Um... | 0:31:14 | 0:31:18 | |
So if he can get the money that quick, | 0:31:18 | 0:31:21 | |
I'm pretty confident we're going to get paid on this. | 0:31:21 | 0:31:24 | |
We'll wait around. He's going to make a few phone calls. | 0:31:24 | 0:31:27 | |
Ken makes himself comfortable in the dining room, | 0:31:28 | 0:31:31 | |
and just ten minutes later, | 0:31:31 | 0:31:33 | |
it seems things are moving in the right direction. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:36 | |
You've got three grand coming, you've got a grand in your pocket, | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
so you want just shy of two grand now. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
-You are waiting for. -Yeah. -OK. | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
The problem is, that's not going to arrive for another few hours. | 0:31:45 | 0:31:49 | |
Ken's heard this man's promises before and is understandably wary... | 0:31:56 | 0:32:00 | |
..but it does seem like the threat | 0:32:01 | 0:32:03 | |
of imminent removal of goods has sunk in. | 0:32:03 | 0:32:06 | |
What he's saying to me is he's got £1,000 in his back pocket, | 0:32:06 | 0:32:10 | |
which I didn't know he had when I first got in here. | 0:32:10 | 0:32:13 | |
He's also contacted someone that is just about to transfer | 0:32:13 | 0:32:17 | |
£3,000 into his account. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
So, in effect, he's got around about four. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
He needs another £1,900, | 0:32:24 | 0:32:27 | |
and he's going to get someone else to help him out, | 0:32:27 | 0:32:32 | |
transfer it to his account. | 0:32:32 | 0:32:33 | |
However, that person is not going to be able to get that sorted | 0:32:33 | 0:32:36 | |
for a few hours yet, so I think it's a question of waiting around. | 0:32:36 | 0:32:40 | |
If I leave now then the pressure's off, | 0:32:40 | 0:32:43 | |
so I'm going to stay around and have a coffee, I think. | 0:32:43 | 0:32:47 | |
But in the end Ken doesn't even get the chance to enjoy a cappuccino. | 0:32:49 | 0:32:53 | |
A few minutes later, | 0:32:53 | 0:32:54 | |
the manager calls him back into the office once more | 0:32:54 | 0:32:57 | |
to tell him he has raised the full amount. | 0:32:57 | 0:33:00 | |
That didn't take long, did it? | 0:33:00 | 0:33:02 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:05 | |
When he arrived this morning, it didn't look like the hotel | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
was going to be able to come up with the money today - | 0:33:08 | 0:33:11 | |
but Ken's tough stance has been rewarded | 0:33:11 | 0:33:14 | |
and he's leaving with payment in full. | 0:33:14 | 0:33:16 | |
It's gone from £2,000 tomorrow, and the balance in a couple of months, | 0:33:16 | 0:33:21 | |
to immediate payment on a debit card. | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
I thought I'd get paid. | 0:33:24 | 0:33:25 | |
I didn't quite think I'd get paid as quick as that. | 0:33:25 | 0:33:28 | |
In Kent, enforcement agents Lawrence Grix and Kev McNally | 0:33:39 | 0:33:43 | |
are on the road. They have got a High Court writ | 0:33:43 | 0:33:45 | |
to collect a debt owed by a car dealer. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
Right, today we're in Sittingbourne. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:51 | |
We're going to West Car Sales. | 0:33:51 | 0:33:54 | |
We're looking for £1,452. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
I presume the debt is relating to the sale of a second-hand vehicle. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:01 | |
The claimant in the case is Kieron Kelly. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
He first came across West Car Sales | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
when he was looking for a cheap second-hand car | 0:34:08 | 0:34:10 | |
and checked out the stock | 0:34:10 | 0:34:12 | |
at a few of his local dealers. | 0:34:12 | 0:34:14 | |
I saw a car that was appealing to me, it was within my price range. | 0:34:14 | 0:34:19 | |
The car was a Renault Megane. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:21 | |
It was black, it was a five-door car. | 0:34:21 | 0:34:25 | |
We have four grandchildren, | 0:34:25 | 0:34:26 | |
so of course, from time to time we pick the children up from school. | 0:34:26 | 0:34:30 | |
So what we needed was a car that would be able to accommodate | 0:34:30 | 0:34:34 | |
both myself and my partner and the grandkids. | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
Kieron went to the dealers and met the salesman there, a Mr Jeff Lee. | 0:34:38 | 0:34:42 | |
He seemed quite trustworthy, so I took the car out on a test drive | 0:34:42 | 0:34:45 | |
It wasn't great, but, at the end of the day, for £850, you know, | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
you are not going to get a great, great car - | 0:34:50 | 0:34:52 | |
but it seemed to be good value for money. | 0:34:52 | 0:34:54 | |
Kieron may not have been looking for a top-of-the-range car, | 0:34:54 | 0:34:57 | |
but there was one thing he was adamant about. | 0:34:57 | 0:35:00 | |
He didn't want anything | 0:35:00 | 0:35:01 | |
that had previously been in an accident or written off. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
I had had a bad experience with a previous car, | 0:35:04 | 0:35:08 | |
so I asked the dealer specifically, | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
"Was the car that I was buying subject to a write-off?" | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
He just quite simply said no. | 0:35:13 | 0:35:15 | |
So Kieron bought it and drove it happily for several months, | 0:35:16 | 0:35:20 | |
until one day he scraped the front of the car | 0:35:20 | 0:35:22 | |
on the curb while parking | 0:35:22 | 0:35:24 | |
and was surprised by the amount of damage it caused. | 0:35:24 | 0:35:28 | |
The whole front end, ie the whole bumper, | 0:35:28 | 0:35:31 | |
was detached and it was hanging. | 0:35:31 | 0:35:33 | |
When Kieron got home he called the AA, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:36 | |
and when they took a look they found clues | 0:35:36 | 0:35:38 | |
that the car had in fact been in a previous accident after all. | 0:35:38 | 0:35:41 | |
They knocked the door and said, | 0:35:41 | 0:35:43 | |
"Look, I think you need to get your logbook." | 0:35:43 | 0:35:45 | |
So I came back into my home, | 0:35:45 | 0:35:46 | |
got the logbook and clearly on the logbook | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
it had stated that the car was subject to a write-off. | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
I was stunned, absolutely stunned. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:56 | |
Stunned, shocked, angry, annoyed. | 0:35:56 | 0:36:00 | |
The obvious thing to do was get in touch with West Car Sales. | 0:36:00 | 0:36:04 | |
I wanted to reject the vehicle and seek a full refund. | 0:36:04 | 0:36:07 | |
For some weeks, Kieron chased for a refund, but it wasn't forthcoming. | 0:36:08 | 0:36:13 | |
The car, meanwhile, was marooned on the driveway, | 0:36:13 | 0:36:16 | |
where it still remains... | 0:36:16 | 0:36:17 | |
Having been told that this car was potentially dangerous, | 0:36:17 | 0:36:21 | |
I didn't drive the car any more. | 0:36:21 | 0:36:23 | |
..and after still getting nowhere with West Car Sales, | 0:36:23 | 0:36:26 | |
Kieron took the company to court... | 0:36:26 | 0:36:28 | |
I supplied 15-19 pages' worth of correspondence, | 0:36:28 | 0:36:32 | |
together with text messages and all the communication. | 0:36:32 | 0:36:36 | |
So I was extremely confident of the outcome. | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
No concerns. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:40 | |
..but just moments before the hearing, Mr Lee arrived, | 0:36:40 | 0:36:44 | |
wanting to make a deal to pay Kieron back in instalments. | 0:36:44 | 0:36:47 | |
Kieron accepted, and the agreement was rubber-stamped by the judge. | 0:36:47 | 0:36:52 | |
His first payment was due to myself of £100 on the 1st of December. | 0:36:52 | 0:36:57 | |
He failed to pay it, and he said he had family issues. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
So I decided to extend that for a week to give him a bit of grace, | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
and, lo and behold, he failed again. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
Kieron's now had enough of being messed about | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
and has transferred his case up to the High Court. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:12 | |
Having seen the programme on the TV | 0:37:12 | 0:37:14 | |
I'm just really hopeful that they get the outcome I need. | 0:37:14 | 0:37:18 | |
Lawrence and Kev are about to arrive at West Car Sales - | 0:37:23 | 0:37:26 | |
and, ever the optimist, | 0:37:26 | 0:37:28 | |
Kev is hopeful of getting Mr Kelly's money... | 0:37:28 | 0:37:31 | |
I've had a look at the site online while I was doing my research, | 0:37:31 | 0:37:35 | |
and there's quite a few cars on the front here, cars and vans. | 0:37:35 | 0:37:39 | |
So hopefully they'll be owned by our debtor company | 0:37:39 | 0:37:43 | |
and we'll be able to get this debt paid. | 0:37:43 | 0:37:46 | |
..and as they pull into the garage, | 0:37:46 | 0:37:49 | |
it seems Kev's research was spot on... | 0:37:49 | 0:37:51 | |
There are a lot of vehicles here. | 0:37:51 | 0:37:53 | |
It goes a way back, doesn't it? | 0:37:53 | 0:37:56 | |
..and before they even manage to park, | 0:37:56 | 0:37:58 | |
a man pulls up alongside wanting to know why the sheriffs are here. | 0:37:58 | 0:38:03 | |
-West Car Sales, we're here for. -Yeah. | 0:38:03 | 0:38:05 | |
It is you, is it? | 0:38:05 | 0:38:06 | |
It's the man who sold Kieron his car, | 0:38:10 | 0:38:12 | |
and it seems he doesn't dispute he owes the money. | 0:38:12 | 0:38:15 | |
In fact, he says he wants to pay. | 0:38:15 | 0:38:18 | |
The problem is, you've got assets. | 0:38:25 | 0:38:27 | |
We're not ordered out to collect your money, | 0:38:27 | 0:38:29 | |
we're ordered by the writ to take control of your goods. | 0:38:29 | 0:38:31 | |
All you can do is pay in full, because you've got the stock. | 0:38:32 | 0:38:35 | |
Although Mr Lee admits he sold Mr Kelly a car, | 0:38:41 | 0:38:44 | |
he's now saying he sold it under his own name, | 0:38:44 | 0:38:47 | |
not the garage's, where he's just an employee - | 0:38:47 | 0:38:50 | |
but that's not what it says on Mr Kelly's receipt, | 0:38:50 | 0:38:53 | |
nor on Lawrence's writ. | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
West Car Sales have got all the cars that are here? | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
Unfortunately, that's who we're here for. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
It's their name on the writ, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:02 | |
so any of these cars that belong to West Car Sales | 0:39:02 | 0:39:05 | |
are likely to go to clear the debt. | 0:39:05 | 0:39:06 | |
At the moment it stands at £1,452. | 0:39:06 | 0:39:09 | |
You know, one of these cars would cover it. | 0:39:10 | 0:39:13 | |
The owner of West Car Sales is away, is he? | 0:39:14 | 0:39:16 | |
Mr Lee might not want his employer's cars to be taken, | 0:39:17 | 0:39:20 | |
but the sheriffs can't just ignore the paperwork from the courts. | 0:39:20 | 0:39:23 | |
Fair play to you for sticking your hands up and saying, | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
"Right, it should actually be me," | 0:39:26 | 0:39:27 | |
but we can't deal with it as being you. | 0:39:27 | 0:39:29 | |
So if you want to pay it on their behalf, again, fair play to you. | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
No. | 0:39:35 | 0:39:36 | |
We can give you a little bit of time | 0:39:36 | 0:39:38 | |
to try and cobble the money together. | 0:39:38 | 0:39:39 | |
While Mr Lee is cooperating, | 0:39:40 | 0:39:42 | |
so far he still isn't showing any indication | 0:39:42 | 0:39:45 | |
that he's about to come up with the money - | 0:39:45 | 0:39:47 | |
so Lawrence ups the ante. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:49 | |
If it comes to removal, there's another 1,300 quid going on it. | 0:39:49 | 0:39:52 | |
It's going to virtually double. | 0:39:52 | 0:39:54 | |
No, we don't want that. | 0:39:55 | 0:39:56 | |
So that's what I'm saying, | 0:39:56 | 0:39:57 | |
I can give you a little bit of time to get this money together. | 0:39:57 | 0:40:00 | |
Yeah, we're not talking days. | 0:40:03 | 0:40:05 | |
Lawrence's strategy works. | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
Mr Lee suddenly produces the company's card | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
and offers to make a payment. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:12 | |
Right, let's see if we've got a signal. | 0:40:13 | 0:40:15 | |
You have to know your PIN number or you can't do it. | 0:40:17 | 0:40:19 | |
Unless you can go do it online. | 0:40:19 | 0:40:21 | |
Have you got online facilities here? | 0:40:21 | 0:40:23 | |
Mr Lee can't use the card, and heads into his office, | 0:40:23 | 0:40:26 | |
leaving Lawrence and Kev to ponder their next move. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:29 | |
Yeah, it's a bit of a shame he hasn't got the PIN number | 0:40:31 | 0:40:33 | |
to the account here, | 0:40:33 | 0:40:35 | |
otherwise we would have had a big part of it paid off. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
So we'll just see what developments there are now. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:39 | |
The development is that Mr Lee immediately returns, | 0:40:39 | 0:40:42 | |
and this time he's brought cash. | 0:40:42 | 0:40:45 | |
-Do you want to hop in the other side and count this, Kev? -Yeah. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:47 | |
-What's there? -1,500. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:50 | |
-1,500, yeah? -Yeah. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
Mr Lee has settled the balance in full, | 0:40:55 | 0:40:58 | |
and he gives his side of the story. | 0:40:58 | 0:41:00 | |
I sold a car to a chap, it must have been about eight or nine months ago. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:03 | |
Chap had it for six months. | 0:41:03 | 0:41:05 | |
It had been involved in an accident, I wasn't aware of this. | 0:41:05 | 0:41:08 | |
The chap then came back and saw us, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:09 | |
and obviously gave us the point of view that he wanted a refund. | 0:41:09 | 0:41:12 | |
Wasn't in a position to do so at the time, | 0:41:12 | 0:41:14 | |
because obviously we wanted to have the car checked. | 0:41:14 | 0:41:16 | |
He didn't allow us to do so, and here we are today. | 0:41:16 | 0:41:19 | |
Thank you. | 0:41:19 | 0:41:20 | |
If you've done wrong, you've got to pay for it. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:22 | |
That's yours. | 0:41:22 | 0:41:24 | |
That went very well, really. | 0:41:24 | 0:41:26 | |
There was a point where we didn't think | 0:41:26 | 0:41:27 | |
he was going to be able to come up with the money | 0:41:27 | 0:41:29 | |
cos he didn't have the PIN number for the credit card he had, | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
but then he went off and appeared with cash. | 0:41:32 | 0:41:34 | |
So...happy days. Another job done. | 0:41:34 | 0:41:36 | |
And Lawrence isn't the only one who's pleased. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
Excellent result, it's been a great day. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:41 | |
I'm just pleased to say it's all done, it's all dusted. | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
We can now just move on and enjoy the rest of our lives. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
If you've won a County Court judgment and haven't been paid, | 0:41:51 | 0:41:54 | |
for £66 you can get the case transferred up to the High Court, | 0:41:54 | 0:41:58 | |
which will issue a writ for enforcement by the sheriffs. | 0:41:58 | 0:42:01 | |
My job is to collect in full or remove goods. | 0:42:01 | 0:42:06 | |
They've got special powers of entry... | 0:42:06 | 0:42:08 | |
We don't have to take any notice of your security protocol, I'm afraid. | 0:42:08 | 0:42:11 | |
..and there's no limit on the size of the debts they can pursue. | 0:42:11 | 0:42:14 | |
£1.6 million. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:16 | |
If they're successful, | 0:42:18 | 0:42:19 | |
they'll recover your money and costs from the debtor... | 0:42:19 | 0:42:22 | |
Have you got the cash now, then? | 0:42:22 | 0:42:24 | |
..as well as their own fees, which are set by the government. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:27 | |
She's paid, the judgment is settled. | 0:42:27 | 0:42:29 | |
Thank you very much. | 0:42:29 | 0:42:30 | |
If the sheriffs can't get your money, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:33 | |
they'll ask you to pay a fee of £75 plus VAT. | 0:42:33 | 0:42:37 | |
It's mid-morning, | 0:42:41 | 0:42:42 | |
and Tommy and Craig are on the outskirts of Birmingham. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:45 | |
They are looking for a man who runs a sandwich business | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
and who owes thousands of pounds to a former worker. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:52 | |
We're off to go and see Mr Trevor Johnson. | 0:42:53 | 0:42:55 | |
He trades as TJ's Sandwiches. | 0:42:55 | 0:42:58 | |
This one's an employment tribunal case, | 0:42:58 | 0:43:01 | |
so it's clearly a dispute between employer and employee. | 0:43:01 | 0:43:04 | |
The claimant says she'd worked for Mr Johnson for ten years | 0:43:05 | 0:43:09 | |
before he made her redundant without notice. | 0:43:09 | 0:43:12 | |
He also made unauthorised deductions from her wages | 0:43:12 | 0:43:15 | |
and owes her holiday pay. | 0:43:15 | 0:43:17 | |
Mr Johnson didn't attend the hearing | 0:43:17 | 0:43:19 | |
and the tribunal ruled against him by default. | 0:43:19 | 0:43:24 | |
He still hasn't paid, and owes £4,036. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:27 | |
As the address on the writ appears to be | 0:43:32 | 0:43:34 | |
for some kind of industrial unit, | 0:43:34 | 0:43:36 | |
rather than Mr Johnson's home address, | 0:43:36 | 0:43:38 | |
the sheriffs are hopeful of finding suitable assets. | 0:43:38 | 0:43:41 | |
I think this is actually where they prep and make the sandwiches. | 0:43:41 | 0:43:45 | |
Hopefully, we'll get the employee the money | 0:43:45 | 0:43:47 | |
that the court has said that she deserves. | 0:43:47 | 0:43:49 | |
The sheriffs reach their destination, | 0:43:49 | 0:43:51 | |
and head in in search of Mr Johnson. | 0:43:51 | 0:43:53 | |
Hello. | 0:43:54 | 0:43:55 | |
-Hello. -Is Mr Johnson about? | 0:43:56 | 0:43:58 | |
Can he be contacted at all? | 0:44:00 | 0:44:01 | |
Has anybody got his number? | 0:44:04 | 0:44:06 | |
No? | 0:44:06 | 0:44:07 | |
Who's in charge whilst he's not here? | 0:44:07 | 0:44:10 | |
Nobody has got his telephone number at all? | 0:44:11 | 0:44:13 | |
Who would you phone in an emergency? | 0:44:13 | 0:44:15 | |
You just deal with it yourselves? | 0:44:17 | 0:44:19 | |
My name is Mr Wild, and we are High Court enforcement agents. | 0:44:20 | 0:44:23 | |
We're here today to execute a court order, a High Court writ of control. | 0:44:24 | 0:44:29 | |
So we need to get in contact with Mr Johnson, | 0:44:30 | 0:44:32 | |
as a matter of urgency. | 0:44:32 | 0:44:34 | |
But just then a man emerges from the back. | 0:44:35 | 0:44:38 | |
Hello, sir. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
Are you Mr Johnson? | 0:44:40 | 0:44:41 | |
Hello, Mr Johnson. | 0:44:41 | 0:44:43 | |
My name's Mr Wild. | 0:44:43 | 0:44:45 | |
It seems Mr Johnson was here all along - | 0:44:45 | 0:44:48 | |
and he now excuses himself momentarily to switch off a machine. | 0:44:48 | 0:44:52 | |
Well, there you go. | 0:44:53 | 0:44:54 | |
All of a sudden, he turns up at the back. | 0:44:54 | 0:44:57 | |
When Mr Johnson returns, he asks our cameraman to leave. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:01 | |
Inside, Tommy and Craig explain | 0:45:06 | 0:45:09 | |
they're here on behalf of his former employee, | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
and their writ empowers them to collect just over £4,000, | 0:45:12 | 0:45:16 | |
otherwise, they'll have to remove goods to cover the value instead. | 0:45:16 | 0:45:19 | |
Thankfully, Mr Johnson knows all about the debt, | 0:45:19 | 0:45:22 | |
and the sheriffs are spared the task | 0:45:22 | 0:45:24 | |
of working out whether any of the vehicles outside belong to him. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:28 | |
He agrees to pay, and half an hour later, Tommy and Craig are leaving, | 0:45:28 | 0:45:32 | |
slightly surprised about how straightforward it was | 0:45:32 | 0:45:35 | |
considering the reception they got when they arrived. | 0:45:35 | 0:45:38 | |
We've gained peaceable access, | 0:45:38 | 0:45:40 | |
met the workers who initially said that our guy wasn't there - | 0:45:40 | 0:45:44 | |
but, like the Scarlet Pimpernel, he appeared from the back. | 0:45:44 | 0:45:47 | |
His wife was actually in the office at the front of the building, | 0:45:47 | 0:45:49 | |
so explained the situation and ultimately we got paid in full. | 0:45:49 | 0:45:54 | |
Every year, 3.9 million motor insurance claims | 0:46:04 | 0:46:07 | |
are made in the UK as a result of accidents, theft or damage. | 0:46:07 | 0:46:12 | |
99% of these claims are accepted and subsequently paid out, | 0:46:12 | 0:46:17 | |
but occasionally claimants find themselves | 0:46:17 | 0:46:19 | |
unable to get the money they're owed. | 0:46:19 | 0:46:22 | |
Lawrence and Kev are heading towards the Sussex coast, | 0:46:23 | 0:46:26 | |
to deal with one of these cases. | 0:46:26 | 0:46:28 | |
We're off to Hastings Insurance Services Limited. | 0:46:29 | 0:46:33 | |
We are looking for £4,575. | 0:46:33 | 0:46:38 | |
The claimant is Bill Young from Ashington in Northumberland. | 0:46:40 | 0:46:44 | |
It all began with an outing to the local takeaway | 0:46:44 | 0:46:47 | |
with wife Christine and their kids. | 0:46:47 | 0:46:50 | |
We got in the car, headed down the road, | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
and just as I was approaching the roundabout, | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
the guy came out from the left. | 0:46:55 | 0:46:56 | |
I did see it coming, | 0:46:56 | 0:46:57 | |
but it was right at the last second | 0:46:57 | 0:46:59 | |
and there was no way I could get out of the way. | 0:46:59 | 0:47:01 | |
The other driver smashed into the side of Bill's car, | 0:47:01 | 0:47:04 | |
writing it off and leaving the family shaken and hurt. | 0:47:04 | 0:47:08 | |
Christine suffered whiplash, | 0:47:08 | 0:47:10 | |
and it soon became clear that so did their 15-year-old daughter, Elise. | 0:47:10 | 0:47:15 | |
My daughter realised at school when she was sitting | 0:47:15 | 0:47:18 | |
on the high chairs in the science lab, | 0:47:18 | 0:47:21 | |
cos she had no back support. | 0:47:21 | 0:47:23 | |
She had to go through physio and stuff like that. | 0:47:23 | 0:47:26 | |
But the good news | 0:47:26 | 0:47:28 | |
was that the Youngs' insurance policy was supportive. | 0:47:28 | 0:47:30 | |
They said they would claim costs and compensation | 0:47:30 | 0:47:33 | |
from the other driver's insurers, Hastings. | 0:47:33 | 0:47:36 | |
The driver had said it was his fault, | 0:47:36 | 0:47:38 | |
so we had nothing really to worry about - | 0:47:38 | 0:47:41 | |
but as it went on, it started to drag on and drag on. | 0:47:41 | 0:47:43 | |
It seemed that Hastings wasn't going to pay out just like that. | 0:47:43 | 0:47:47 | |
I was quite surprised, | 0:47:47 | 0:47:49 | |
because it's quite a big insurance company | 0:47:49 | 0:47:50 | |
and I thought it would just be... | 0:47:50 | 0:47:52 | |
they would pay up straightaway, sort of thing. | 0:47:52 | 0:47:54 | |
Weeks became months, and the situation | 0:47:54 | 0:47:56 | |
was becoming increasingly worrying for the family. | 0:47:56 | 0:47:59 | |
I was just stressed all the time, | 0:47:59 | 0:48:01 | |
ringing up the insurance company just about every other day. | 0:48:01 | 0:48:05 | |
I would send one thing | 0:48:05 | 0:48:06 | |
and then they would say, "We need something else." | 0:48:06 | 0:48:08 | |
Well, I thought, "Well why didn't you say that in the first place?" | 0:48:08 | 0:48:11 | |
A few months after the accident, | 0:48:12 | 0:48:14 | |
the Youngs did receive the pay-out for their written-off car, | 0:48:14 | 0:48:18 | |
but it took a year before Christine got compensation for her injuries - | 0:48:18 | 0:48:22 | |
and Elise's whiplash was even less straightforward. | 0:48:22 | 0:48:25 | |
It turned out she'd have to go to court. | 0:48:25 | 0:48:28 | |
The guy who was representing the other company, | 0:48:28 | 0:48:31 | |
he basically just agreed they would pay out. | 0:48:31 | 0:48:34 | |
There was no questions asked. | 0:48:34 | 0:48:36 | |
It just seemed to be a waste of time. | 0:48:36 | 0:48:38 | |
The Youngs could at least expect the matter to finally be resolved - | 0:48:40 | 0:48:44 | |
but 18 months after the accident, they're still waiting. | 0:48:44 | 0:48:47 | |
Now the Youngs' insurers have decided to take the final step. | 0:48:48 | 0:48:52 | |
They've obtained a High Court writ against Hastings Insurance | 0:48:52 | 0:48:56 | |
and engaged the sheriffs. | 0:48:56 | 0:48:57 | |
We didn't expect this, so we'll see what happens from here, | 0:48:57 | 0:49:00 | |
but hopefully we'll finally get what... | 0:49:00 | 0:49:02 | |
-What we deserve. -..what we need. Yeah. | 0:49:02 | 0:49:04 | |
Lawrence and Kev are soon to arrive | 0:49:11 | 0:49:12 | |
at Hastings Insurance Services Limited. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:15 | |
It's up this road somewhere, I believe. | 0:49:15 | 0:49:18 | |
There it is - Conquest House, Hastings Direct. | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
Lawrence and Kev park up and head into the building... | 0:49:21 | 0:49:25 | |
-Hi there. -They'll rumble you, Pete, straight away. | 0:49:25 | 0:49:27 | |
..but our cameraman doesn't get far. | 0:49:27 | 0:49:30 | |
Morning, yeah. | 0:49:30 | 0:49:31 | |
We wait outside, while Lawrence explains. | 0:49:31 | 0:49:34 | |
My name's Mr Grix. My colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:49:34 | 0:49:37 | |
We've got a High Court writ against Hastings Insurance Services Limited. | 0:49:37 | 0:49:40 | |
The sheriffs' unannounced arrival causes some confusion. | 0:49:44 | 0:49:47 | |
Lawrence and Kev don't know any of the specifics of the case, | 0:49:47 | 0:49:51 | |
all they've got is a writ against the company | 0:49:51 | 0:49:53 | |
with Mr Young's name on it, and no-one here knows who he is. | 0:49:53 | 0:49:57 | |
One of the issues they've got at the moment | 0:49:58 | 0:50:01 | |
is looking for the person in the claim. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:03 | |
Once they find out who that is, | 0:50:03 | 0:50:05 | |
they'll be back down and sorting out. | 0:50:05 | 0:50:07 | |
They're familiar with these scenarios. | 0:50:07 | 0:50:09 | |
I think with such a big company, | 0:50:09 | 0:50:11 | |
they must get a few of these things sort of slip through the net. | 0:50:11 | 0:50:14 | |
The sheriffs can demand the writ is paid regardless, | 0:50:15 | 0:50:18 | |
but companies are usually reluctant to reach for their credit cards | 0:50:18 | 0:50:21 | |
until they know what they're paying for - | 0:50:21 | 0:50:24 | |
so Lawrence is prepared to give them a bit of time, | 0:50:24 | 0:50:27 | |
rather than threatening to remove assets from the office. | 0:50:27 | 0:50:30 | |
Another 45 minutes passes before, eventually, he's out. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:36 | |
Apparently they'd already agreed a settlement | 0:50:36 | 0:50:39 | |
and the solicitor should have paid it, | 0:50:39 | 0:50:41 | |
so it's actually the solicitors that have paid it now. | 0:50:41 | 0:50:43 | |
It took a bit longer than we would've liked, really, | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
but sometimes it does. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:47 | |
They've been paid the full £4,575. | 0:50:51 | 0:50:55 | |
18 months after their car accident, | 0:50:55 | 0:50:58 | |
the Youngs have finally got the compensation they were owed. | 0:50:58 | 0:51:01 | |
Well, we finally heard from the sheriffs. | 0:51:04 | 0:51:06 | |
It's good news. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:07 | |
They're getting the money, so that's great. | 0:51:07 | 0:51:10 | |
We would have preferred that we didn't need to claim | 0:51:10 | 0:51:12 | |
and we didn't need it, but that's what these things are for. | 0:51:12 | 0:51:15 | |
Tommy and Craig are back in the van, on their way to another job. | 0:51:24 | 0:51:28 | |
they're about to visit a man who owes a substantial sum of money. | 0:51:28 | 0:51:32 | |
So we're in the suburbs of Birmingham again today. | 0:51:32 | 0:51:36 | |
We're off to go and see a Mr Kev Dooley. | 0:51:36 | 0:51:39 | |
Mr Dooley was taken to court by another man several months ago. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:43 | |
He didn't defend the case | 0:51:43 | 0:51:45 | |
and a judgment was issued against him by default. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:48 | |
He now owes £7,381. | 0:51:48 | 0:51:52 | |
The sheriffs have been trying to contact Mr Dooley, | 0:51:54 | 0:51:57 | |
but with no success. | 0:51:57 | 0:51:58 | |
We've been there numerous times before, | 0:51:58 | 0:52:01 | |
had no response at all to our letters, | 0:52:01 | 0:52:04 | |
however there's a number of vehicles... | 0:52:04 | 0:52:06 | |
..in our guy's name, | 0:52:07 | 0:52:09 | |
so the intention is today to go and remove them, | 0:52:09 | 0:52:12 | |
if he's not going to pay the bill. | 0:52:12 | 0:52:15 | |
They reach Mr Dooley's home address, | 0:52:15 | 0:52:17 | |
and sure enough, two of the vehicles they were hoping to find are there. | 0:52:17 | 0:52:22 | |
There's a Volkswagen van... | 0:52:22 | 0:52:24 | |
That's free of finance. | 0:52:24 | 0:52:25 | |
So we need to get a clamp on that. | 0:52:25 | 0:52:27 | |
..and a Vauxhall hatchback. | 0:52:27 | 0:52:29 | |
The sheriffs get straight to work. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:31 | |
Tommy clamps the van, while Craig tries the door. | 0:52:31 | 0:52:34 | |
As usual, there's no answer. | 0:52:36 | 0:52:39 | |
There's got to be someone here, hasn't there? | 0:52:40 | 0:52:42 | |
There's all these cars here. | 0:52:42 | 0:52:44 | |
I've got a phone number. | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
Try ringing him. | 0:52:47 | 0:52:48 | |
He does - but it goes straight to answerphone. | 0:52:48 | 0:52:51 | |
Hello, this is a message for Mr Kev Dooley. | 0:52:52 | 0:52:56 | |
I need you to contact me as soon as possible, Mr Dooley. Thank you. | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
Let's order the truck. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:03 | |
-It's all we can do. -It's all we can do, isn't it? | 0:53:03 | 0:53:05 | |
With Mr Dooley owing upwards of £7,000, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
Craig presses ahead and books in the removal of both vehicles. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:14 | |
It's done. Sending two vehicles. | 0:53:14 | 0:53:16 | |
The sheriffs retreat to the van to wait it out - | 0:53:16 | 0:53:20 | |
but soon Tommy spots a young man | 0:53:20 | 0:53:22 | |
who he thinks is taking an unusual amount of interest | 0:53:22 | 0:53:25 | |
in what they're up to... | 0:53:25 | 0:53:27 | |
See the red door? | 0:53:27 | 0:53:28 | |
He's been stood out the front of it watching us the whole time, | 0:53:28 | 0:53:30 | |
and he's only just gone in there. | 0:53:30 | 0:53:32 | |
-Could be the son. -Maybe. | 0:53:32 | 0:53:34 | |
..and shortly afterwards, | 0:53:34 | 0:53:36 | |
the person Tommy's seen comes over to speak to them, | 0:53:36 | 0:53:39 | |
accompanied by an older man. | 0:53:39 | 0:53:41 | |
Is it Mr Dooley? | 0:53:41 | 0:53:42 | |
-Is he? -Yeah, he is. | 0:53:44 | 0:53:46 | |
Right. | 0:53:48 | 0:53:49 | |
The man says he's just a neighbour | 0:53:49 | 0:53:51 | |
and the debtor is apparently away for another month. | 0:53:51 | 0:53:55 | |
Tommy explains he's a High Court enforcement agent | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
with a writ to execute. | 0:53:58 | 0:53:59 | |
The problem we've got at the moment, you see, | 0:53:59 | 0:54:02 | |
is they want us to remove vehicles today, which are registered to him, | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
which obviously we don't want to do, | 0:54:06 | 0:54:07 | |
we'd rather speak to him and get it sorted out, | 0:54:07 | 0:54:09 | |
but we need to talk to him, really. | 0:54:09 | 0:54:11 | |
The only way is money. | 0:54:14 | 0:54:16 | |
It's not a small amount. I can't discuss the details. | 0:54:17 | 0:54:19 | |
Is it your father? Oh, OK. | 0:54:19 | 0:54:22 | |
He would have had letters here. | 0:54:23 | 0:54:25 | |
Craig was right. | 0:54:25 | 0:54:27 | |
The young man is Mr Dooley's son - | 0:54:27 | 0:54:29 | |
but he's not in a position to stump up several thousand pounds | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
on his dad's behalf... | 0:54:32 | 0:54:34 | |
They can't really help out, to facilitate the payment, | 0:54:34 | 0:54:36 | |
to stop the vehicles going, | 0:54:36 | 0:54:38 | |
so unfortunately it's a bit of a bad situation | 0:54:38 | 0:54:41 | |
and it looks like they're still going to be going. | 0:54:41 | 0:54:43 | |
..but just as the sheriffs are gearing up for the removal, | 0:54:43 | 0:54:47 | |
a call comes through from the debtor's mother. | 0:54:47 | 0:54:50 | |
She says that she owns the van, | 0:54:50 | 0:54:52 | |
so doesn't think the sheriffs can remove it - | 0:54:52 | 0:54:55 | |
but she's not able to provide proof of her purchase right now. | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
She's saying that she's purchased the vehicle for him, | 0:54:59 | 0:55:02 | |
to put into his business - | 0:55:02 | 0:55:04 | |
but as we've said, in the absence of proof, | 0:55:04 | 0:55:06 | |
at this late stage it won't prevent the removal from taking place. | 0:55:06 | 0:55:09 | |
Before long, the first removal truck arrives | 0:55:11 | 0:55:13 | |
and the logistical challenge begins. | 0:55:13 | 0:55:16 | |
The van turns out to be harder than expected | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
thanks to its long wheelbase. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
I don't think it'll go on. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:22 | |
Backwards, it doesn't fit, so they try a new strategy... | 0:55:23 | 0:55:27 | |
If he takes it from the front, | 0:55:27 | 0:55:28 | |
it will be shorter at the front and you'll be able to get it on, | 0:55:28 | 0:55:31 | |
and have the back end sticking off the back. | 0:55:31 | 0:55:33 | |
..and this time, they have more success. | 0:55:33 | 0:55:35 | |
The car, on the other hand, is a different story altogether. | 0:55:38 | 0:55:42 | |
The issue is the wheel. | 0:55:42 | 0:55:44 | |
Obviously, with a steering lock on like that, to drag it, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:47 | |
it's going to be a nightmare. | 0:55:47 | 0:55:49 | |
Drag it from there, I think. | 0:55:49 | 0:55:51 | |
The Vauxhall is unceremoniously heaved up onto the truck. | 0:55:53 | 0:55:57 | |
It's not pretty, but it works - | 0:55:58 | 0:56:02 | |
and the car is also soon on its way. | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
-That's good. -Cheers, thanks. Take care, mate. | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
Both vehicles will be held for seven days. | 0:56:12 | 0:56:15 | |
If Mr Dooley doesn't come up with the money, | 0:56:15 | 0:56:17 | |
and provided the vehicles do belong to him, | 0:56:17 | 0:56:19 | |
then they'll be sold | 0:56:19 | 0:56:21 | |
and the claimant will finally receive the money they're owed. | 0:56:21 | 0:56:25 | |
Yeah, a bit of a result. | 0:56:25 | 0:56:27 | |
We've only been here just over the two hours. | 0:56:27 | 0:56:29 | |
We made some phone calls | 0:56:29 | 0:56:31 | |
and tried to make contact at the address, nothing. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
So it resulted in two vehicles going. | 0:56:33 | 0:56:36 | |
Following filming, Mr Dooley didn't pay any money towards his debt | 0:56:37 | 0:56:41 | |
and his Vauxhall has been sold at auction. | 0:56:41 | 0:56:45 | |
Mr Dooley told us that he believes he doesn't owe any money | 0:56:45 | 0:56:48 | |
and that the case against him was unfounded. | 0:56:48 | 0:56:51 | |
He says he didn't respond to the court paperwork | 0:56:51 | 0:56:54 | |
because his name was spelt incorrectly, | 0:56:54 | 0:56:56 | |
so he didn't believe the letters were for him. | 0:56:56 | 0:56:59 | |
He says he hasn't appealed the judgment | 0:56:59 | 0:57:01 | |
because of the costs involved. | 0:57:01 | 0:57:03 |