Episode 4 The Sheriffs Are Coming


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Meet the Sheriffs.

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My name's Mr Grix, my colleague and I are enforcement agents.

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It's to do with a High Court order.

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They work for the High Court,

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and if it says you are owed money, it's their job to go and get it.

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I am here for £6,072.18.

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They can demand payment on the spot...

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I'm here for the full balance.

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How are you going to pay it?

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..or remove assets instead.

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The car will be going unless you can pay it.

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You will have a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction.

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Obstructing their work can be a criminal offence.

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-I wouldn't do that, if I were you.

-The door needs to stay open.

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Every year in England and Wales,

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unpaid debts totalling more than £80 million

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are recovered by the sheriffs.

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Coming up - Rob Gallon took his car in for a repair

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and hasn't seen it since.

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The car's very important.

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It's a big part of my life, it's a hell of a big part of my life.

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He's now owed thousands of pounds -

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but will the sheriffs be able to get it?

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-Can you keep it shut, please?

-I've got every legal right.

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-Diligent search, they call it.

-No, you can't.

-Yes, I can.

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Ken won't take no for an answer at a hotel with a debt to pay.

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Please start making these phone calls now

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to get this money to me now, OK? I'll wait.

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Lawrence and Kev are on the hunt for a stables manager

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who owes money.

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Hello?

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No sign of anybody, is there?

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The place is deserted - but can they get the debtor's attention?

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HORN BEEPS

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Return to the stables immediately, please,

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so that we can deal with this.

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And Tommy and Craig remove not one but two vehicles

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from a debtor's driveway.

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Today, sheriff Craig Wild is flying solo

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without his trusted partner, Tommy Coyle.

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He's going to visit the director of a car garage

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specialising in engine refurbishments.

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We're off to go and see Nitin Kareer

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in the centre of Birmingham.

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It's to do with a car, just over £6,000.

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It all stems from a dispute over the repair of a 4x4, a Mitsubishi L200

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owned by Rob Gallon, who needs an off-road vehicle for work.

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Good boy.

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We install water mains and water services,

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it's a family-run business

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and it does require going off onto sites where I have to go off road,

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across fields. My personal life, I do some shooting,

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so the Mitsubishi L200 was absolutely perfect.

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But when the turbo failed, causing piston damage,

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Rob decided to get the engine replaced

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and started looking for a garage to do the work.

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Quality Engine Services from Birmingham,

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sounded like a company that knew what they were doing.

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I did explain to the guy that I would prefer another engine

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in the car and not to rebuild the one that I've got,

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and he convinced me that he was the one to put this car right.

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The man he dealt with called himself Nick.

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A week later, the repair was complete

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and Rob went to take a look.

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Started it up and it didn't sound right,

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and he said, "Oh, it just needs running in."

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Anyway, I drove the car home down the motorway,

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half a mile away from home it broke down

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and spilt all the oil all over the road.

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After handing over £2,000 Rob wasn't best pleased -

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especially when he inspected the engine

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and found it was still the same one.

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Nick was apologetic and took the car back for a second time.

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The car, again, was supposed to be in the garage

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for no more than seven days.

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I contacted Nick after nine days

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and he said they were having a few problems with a few of the belts

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and the auxiliaries,

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it should be ready for the weekend.

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I rang again at the weekend

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and it was Monday it was going to be finished,

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and then I rang on Monday and it would be Wednesday,

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and it just continued on and on and on.

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But some of Nick's reasons for the delay

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were difficult to argue with.

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He can't do anything for me at the minute

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because his wife had died over the last two weeks,

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and that's why the car hadn't been delivered back.

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So, Rob gave him some time -

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but as weeks became months,

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he got increasingly worried he was never going to get the car back -

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and it wasn't just about the money. It also had sentimental value.

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I owned a Mitsubishi L200 prior to this one

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that I had an accident in, in 2008, and it saved my life.

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If I was in any other vehicle, I wouldn't be here today -

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and I didn't drive from 2008 to 2012,

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and my wife went and bought me this L200 to get me back out on the road,

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get me driving again. So, the car is very important.

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It's a big part of my life, it's a hell of a big part of my life.

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That was the vehicle that got me back on track,

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it started getting our life back together.

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As Rob's hopes of ever seeing his beloved car again faded,

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he began to get desperate.

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I contacted Staffordshire Police and West Midlands Police

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a number of times to see if they would accompany me

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to the garage in Birmingham,

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so as I could recover my vehicle.

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At this point I was told by the police there was nothing they can do

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because this is a civil matter,

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and unless Nick hands over the keys to that car,

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I legally cannot take that car out of that garage,

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or else I'll be charged with theft.

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Eventually, the garage offered to sell his car on,

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and Rob reluctantly agreed,

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thinking it was the only way out -

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but he never received any money,

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apart from a refund of the £2,000 he'd already spent on the repair.

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His bank statement

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revealed the money came from Rocco Motor Solutions Limited.

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Presuming this to be the company behind the trading name

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Quality Engine Services,

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Rob took its director, Nitin Kareer, to court for the value of the car.

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My initial thoughts were, "I can't wait to get this guy in court,"

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but that never happened, because he never responded to any letter

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or any correspondence from the courts at all.

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Rob was awarded a County Court judgment in his favour by default,

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and when Mr Kareer didn't pay it,

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put the matter in the hands of the sheriffs.

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They're most certainly my last hope.

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I don't think there's any other way that I can get this sorted.

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In Birmingham, Craig is approaching the garage.

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There it is, on the left.

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There's no name above the door,

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and no mention of Quality Engine Services -

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but that's no concern to Craig.

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There's only one name on his writ, a Mr Nitin Kareer,

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and that's who he needs to find.

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Hello. Is the boss about?

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Can he be contacted at all?

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Is it a Nitin Kareer or something?

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If you can get him on the phone, mate, I'll have a chat with him.

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While the staff member goes off to phone the boss,

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Craig is pleased to have verification

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that this is indeed the debtor's business.

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He's confirmed that our guy is the boss.

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It just depends what... who owns the assets here,

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whether it's him personally or whether it's a limited company.

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We'll see how it goes.

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A few minutes later, the man returns

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and says the boss is on his way.

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-He's coming down.

-Oh, he's coming down.

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Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah.

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There's so far no indication

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of whether Mr Kareer is planning to pay -

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but if he isn't, then Craig's best hope of persuading him to do so

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will be threatening to remove his assets.

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The problem is, anything here owned by his company,

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rather than by him personally, would be off limits.

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So while he waits for him to arrive, Craig turns detective...

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I'm still going to try and look around the place,

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try and get some evidence that our guy, as an individual,

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trades from here, as opposed to his company.

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..and it doesn't take long

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before he stumbles across something of interest.

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I've located some of the invoices

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that they used for recent sort of parts

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and it's all in the name of his limited company,

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Rocco Motor Solutions, Limited,

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so, unfortunately, it's looking like our

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guy trades under a limited company here, so not as an individual.

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It's bad news for Craig,

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as it looks like he'll need to persuade the debtor to pay up

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without having any leverage to negotiate with.

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Mr Kareer hasn't shown up yet, either,

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and soon, one of the mechanics hands Craig a phone.

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Who's this? Nitin, yeah?

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Yash?

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I'm trying to get in contact with Nitin.

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It's an outstanding High Court writ.

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It's not Mr Kareer on the phone,

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so Craig can't go into the case details

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unless they are authorised by the defendant to do so.

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Craig emphasises that someone, preferably Mr Kareer,

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needs to come to the garage to sort it out...

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..and soon, a man arrives.

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-Can you come outside?

-I'm not coming outside, I'm waiting here,

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I'll have a discussion with you in the office, yeah.

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-Yeah, come inside my office.

-Yeah. What relation are you to Nitin?

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-I'm his friend.

-You're his friend?

-Yeah.

-Right.

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-What?

-I'm here under a High Court writ

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for a balance outstanding of £6,072.18.

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-The claimant is a Mr Robert Gallon.

-Oh, he's took us to court?

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-That's right.

-I don't know nothing about it.

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I have overtook from Nitin, and we are going to only just do parts,

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-we've got nothing else to do.

-Right.

-Or anything like that.

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Despite a staff member telling Craig that Nitin Kareer was the boss,

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this man is claiming he's in charge and Nitin no longer works here.

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If so, then Craig will have difficulty enforcing the debt -

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but later, he finds more clues which cast doubt on the man's story.

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I've got invoices proving that he's trading from here.

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I'll always try and help people out -

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but what I don't like being is being mugged off, do you know what I mean?

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Using the County Courts to try to recover money you're owed

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isn't difficult.

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One and a half million money claims are made every year

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in England and Wales,

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involving anything from faulty goods or poor workmanship,

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to unpaid invoices.

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Claims can be filed by post or online for a small fee.

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Both parties in the case will be asked to submit evidence,

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and you may have to attend a court hearing.

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If you're successful, a County Court judgment, or CCJ,

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will be issued against the debtor -

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and if they still don't pay, that's when you call the sheriffs.

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Sheriffs typically enforce over 1,000 writs every year,

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and while each one is different,

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enforcement agents often find diplomacy is more effective

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than simply threatening to remove everything in sight.

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If it's necessary to play the long game, Ken Warby is happy to do so.

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He just wants his clients' money back.

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We're going to visit a hotel called the Stuart Hotel in Luton.

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It's a sizeable hotel, by all accounts.

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The hotel has been taken to court by a linen company

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over unpaid invoices.

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I'd imagine it's for tablecloths and bed linen, et cetera.

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Dry cleaning.

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The hotel didn't defend the case in court

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so a default judgment was issued against it -

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but more than three months later it remains unpaid,

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and now Ken needs to collect £6,276.

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From the outside, the hotel does indeed seem sizeable,

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and so looks promising for a payment.

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I would imagined there's quite a few assets in there -

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bar area, wet stock.

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There's always an office, PC equipment, TVs in each room.

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So, hopefully, we'll get somewhere.

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Ken heads in to tell them those assets are in jeopardy

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unless they can pay up.

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Hello. I'd like to speak to the MD. Person in charge? If possible.

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He's not available at the moment.

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-Would you like to come back later on?

-Not really.

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-Is he in the building?

-No, he's not. He just left.

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-He will be here in one hour, probably.

-About an hour?

-Yeah.

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Is there any chance you can get him on the phone? It's quite important.

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The receptionist does just that,

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and moments later she's back with the manager on the line.

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What it's about...

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You're two minutes away? Brilliant.

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All right, I'll see you face-to-face.

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Thank you. Cheers, sir.

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With the manager on the way,

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Ken takes the opportunity to size up the assets on show -

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and after years in the trade,

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he knows exactly what he's looking for.

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Hotel's set out quite nice.

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Good-quality dining furniture.

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All proper heavy metal, chrome. Leather-backed.

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They've got some good equipment down here.

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It's always nice to see some assets as soon as you walk in.

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True to his word, the manager arrives moments later...

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Hello.

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..and Ken follows him into the office.

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Right, sir, this is regarding a High Court judgment.

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Ken is just about to explain his writ,

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but, refreshingly, this time it's not necessary.

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You know exactly what this is about, do you?

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The manager said the hotel is under new management

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and the debt was incurred by the previous owner.

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As the debt in the business's name it still needs paying,

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and luckily the new owners agree.

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Wonderful.

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Ooh, I was hoping you wouldn't say that.

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I was hoping you would say, "Right now".

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The court order was issued months ago,

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so it's Ken's job to get it paid as soon as possible.

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-We could...

-What can you get me now?

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That's fine. What can you pay tomorrow?

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It's a bit of a letdown for Ken -

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but given that they acknowledge the debt

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and seem to have a plan for its repayment,

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he doesn't feel the need to threaten to empty the rooms

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and force the hotel to close its doors.

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Your total due, including charges, £6,276.

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-What I need to do is I need to list the assets here.

-OK.

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So, what do you have other than what I've seen in the reception area?

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On the ground floor.

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-60 bedrooms?

-Yeah.

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Kitchen area?

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There's a kitchen area.

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When a debtor can't pay,

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sheriffs have the option of agreeing a repayment plan

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and taking control of their assets.

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As this is a sizeable debt, Ken's list needs to be long -

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but luckily there's no shortage of items here.

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Glass washer, ice machine.

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Bar chiller cabinets.

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His comprehensive list is also designed

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to make sure the manager knows he really does mean business...

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And now I'm just going to do the kitchen

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and then I'll do a rough guesstimate

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as to how much value we've got there,

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before making a decision of whether or not to go to the rooms

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and maybe look for the TV sets.

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..but by the time he's been through the hotel's kitchen,

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he's already got page after page of assets listed.

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Satisfied it's enough, he completes the paperwork...

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That's £1,000 tomorrow, followed by 5,276.56 next Wednesday.

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..and is on his way.

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Thanks very much.

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I'm sure you'll get that done.

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I look forward to it. Cheers.

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He hasn't been paid, but Ken's happy he's made the right call for now.

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He was really nice, and it's a lovely hotel.

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If I was to go in there and start unplugging things,

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it would basically shut the place down.

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So he's promised me £1,000 tomorrow,

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and the balance is going to be paid in six days' time.

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He's pretty confident of that, I'm confident that he's confident.

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Everyone's happy. I am for now.

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Ken's taken the man at his word,

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but later he's forced to visit the business for a second time.

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You have broken the controlled goods agreement.

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So the reason we're here now is for full payment

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or removal of goods.

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It's as black and as white as that.

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In Birmingham, Craig's chasing more than £6,000 at a garage.

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A customer, Rob Gallon, put his car in for repair but never got it back.

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When he first arrived, Craig thought he had confirmed

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that the man he's looking for is in charge here...

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Is the boss about?

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Is it a Nitin Kareer or something?

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-Come inside.

-Yeah, yeah.

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..but this man has since arrived, saying he's the boss -

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and he's called Mr Ali...

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I have overtook from Nitin and we are just going to do parts.

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..and now someone else is on the phone.

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-Is that Nitin?

-It's Ash.

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-This is Ash.

-Yeah.

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Hello, Ash. You're taking over the premises, yeah, to sell parts?

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Ash says he's Nitin's cousin and, along with Mr Ali,

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took over the business six months ago...

0:18:010:18:03

..but as Craig flicks through the paperwork on the desk,

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he finds Nitin Kareer's name is all over it.

0:18:080:18:11

Old letters?

0:18:120:18:13

Yeah, these are old letters, they're old letters.

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-How many other letters have they got?

-They are old letters.

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We haven't got any letters coming in yet.

0:18:170:18:19

-That's for the water.

-That's old.

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It's still the water, innit?

0:18:220:18:24

Their story isn't adding up.

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Everything I'm looking at now, at the moment,

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is obviously your cousin's details on it.

0:18:300:18:33

I know, I appreciate you're saying he's not,

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but if you were going to take over a premises,

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you'd change the water, you'd change the gas,

0:18:380:18:40

you'd change the electric as a matter of course, wouldn't you?

0:18:400:18:43

Ash, I'm looking at an invoice here, 27th of September,

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addressed to your cousin's company.

0:18:460:18:49

That isn't April, is it?

0:18:490:18:50

You took over in April, he shouldn't even be trading from here.

0:18:500:18:54

Yet I've got invoices proving that he's trading from here.

0:18:540:18:57

Although he still hasn't got any proof there are assets here

0:18:570:19:00

in the debtor's name personally,

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he has at least got the people he's dealing with on the back foot.

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Perhaps that'll be enough to ramp up the pressure and get a payment.

0:19:060:19:10

You need to get your cousin,

0:19:100:19:12

talk to me, and then hopefully I can try and help him out.

0:19:120:19:14

I'll always try and help people out,

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but what I don't like being is being mugged off. Do you know what I mean?

0:19:160:19:20

He's going to call me.

0:19:200:19:21

While Craig waits to finally hear from Mr Kareer,

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he decides to do a bit more investigating.

0:19:240:19:27

I've got every legal right.

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Legal rights for what?

0:19:300:19:32

-Diligent search, they call it.

-No, you can't.

-Yes, I can.

0:19:320:19:35

-No, you can't.

-Yes, I can.

-Can't.

-Yes, I can.

0:19:350:19:37

Craig does have the law on his side,

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and any attempts to stop his diligent search

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could quickly become a matter for the police.

0:19:430:19:46

Luckily, the situation calms down,

0:19:460:19:49

Mr Ali lets Craig carry on, before again handing him his phone...

0:19:490:19:53

Is he on the phone, is he?

0:19:530:19:55

..but he is not the elusive Mr Kareer.

0:19:550:19:58

Once more, it's his cousin Ash.

0:19:580:20:01

Hiya, Ash.

0:20:010:20:03

He's still saying the debt's got nothing to do with him

0:20:030:20:06

and he doesn't want to pay.

0:20:060:20:08

As I explained, Ash,

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and as I explained to your business partner here, Mr Ali,

0:20:090:20:12

I'm here with a court order for six grand, mate,

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and my job today is to collect that money

0:20:140:20:16

under the terms of the High Court writ of control.

0:20:160:20:18

Because money talks, that's the thing.

0:20:180:20:21

Finally, Craig's persuasive techniques land on target.

0:20:210:20:24

Perhaps realising that he isn't going to go away,

0:20:240:20:27

Ash says he owes his cousin some money.

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He says he's willing to pay part of the debt for him

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and offers £1,000.

0:20:330:20:35

Yeah, I'll make a phone call first, yeah, and I'll come back to you.

0:20:350:20:39

If that's acceptable, then I'll leave a letter here for your cousin,

0:20:390:20:44

but he has to deal with it. This is a personal liability.

0:20:440:20:47

He needs to get in contact with our office,

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and then he can sort an arrangement out to pay the balance off

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over a period of time, if he can't pay it in one go.

0:20:520:20:55

Craig checks with his office, and the offer is accepted.

0:20:550:20:58

Mr Ali makes the payment on a card, and Craig issues a receipt,

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along with the letter for Mr Kareer, asking him to contact the sheriffs

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to pay the remainder of the debt.

0:21:060:21:09

-Thank you very much.

-Sorry for your...

-No problem at all.

0:21:090:21:12

It's not the perfect outcome,

0:21:120:21:14

but given that neither the debtor

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nor any sign of his assets were present,

0:21:160:21:18

Craig's satisfied he's done the best he can.

0:21:180:21:21

All in all, I think it's a good result

0:21:210:21:23

for the claimant at the moment.

0:21:230:21:24

Most of the assets there are in the limited company name,

0:21:240:21:27

not personal to our guy.

0:21:270:21:29

However, took the £1,000 and best result we could get out of that.

0:21:290:21:34

Back in Staffordshire,

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Rob Gallon is disappointed

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that the sheriffs weren't able to recover the full amount -

0:21:390:21:42

but is at least glad to see things moving in the right direction.

0:21:420:21:46

It's something I've been fighting this guy for well over 12 months.

0:21:460:21:50

We have had some luck.

0:21:500:21:51

We've recovered £1,000, so we are getting somewhere with it.

0:21:510:21:55

Mr Kareer did subsequently make contact with the sheriffs

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and offer to make payments of £40 a week to clear his debt.

0:22:000:22:04

However, Mr Gallon rejected this,

0:22:040:22:07

opting instead to hold out for a better offer or payment in full.

0:22:070:22:11

So far, the sheriffs haven't been able to recover

0:22:110:22:14

any more of his money.

0:22:140:22:16

Goods and services must meet expectations,

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or else the buyer is usually entitled to their money back.

0:22:210:22:25

Much of the sheriffs' work concerns cases like these,

0:22:250:22:28

and while they might feel they've seen it all,

0:22:280:22:31

there are still jobs that throw up surprises.

0:22:310:22:34

In the South-east, enforcement agents Lawrence Grix and Kev McNally

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are heading into the countryside.

0:22:400:22:42

We are in Horsham in West Sussex today.

0:22:430:22:45

We're going to West Sussex Livery.

0:22:460:22:49

The debt is relating to...

0:22:500:22:52

HE CHUCKLES

0:22:550:22:56

Is that a wind-up?

0:22:580:23:01

What is the debt relating to?

0:23:010:23:02

Kev can barely believe it,

0:23:040:23:05

but the dispute began with the purchase of some horse semen,

0:23:050:23:10

as Lawrence explains.

0:23:100:23:12

Apparently, our claimant's mare, um,

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was due to be impregnated by the debtor's stallion -

0:23:160:23:19

I don't know if it was artificial or if they actually covered the mare -

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but the mare didn't get pregnant.

0:23:220:23:25

Test results on the stallion's semen revealed it was substandard,

0:23:260:23:30

and was therefore unlikely to result in a pregnancy.

0:23:300:23:33

This is basically the money she paid for the...

0:23:330:23:36

..for the duff semen.

0:23:370:23:39

THEY LAUGH

0:23:400:23:41

It may not be your typical case, but the law works the same nonetheless.

0:23:430:23:47

After the mare's owner was refused a refund,

0:23:470:23:49

she took West Sussex Livery to court - and won.

0:23:490:23:53

That was six months ago, and with costs and fees,

0:23:530:23:56

the stables now owes £2,273.

0:23:560:24:00

Kev reckons he's got a pretty good idea

0:24:040:24:06

of what assets they're likely to find.

0:24:060:24:09

There's going to be stuff to remove at a stables, you presume.

0:24:090:24:13

I suppose, potentially, horses but, in reality,

0:24:140:24:18

that's not going to be happening.

0:24:180:24:19

But if that's the only asset they've got, we have to take it.

0:24:190:24:22

We're not going to take any horses.

0:24:220:24:24

THEY LAUGH

0:24:240:24:25

-Yeah.

-Oh, this is it, yeah, look, look, look.

0:24:260:24:29

They've found it, and they head in to look for the owner,

0:24:290:24:32

a woman called Anne Hawes.

0:24:320:24:33

Hello?

0:24:350:24:37

Hello?

0:24:370:24:39

-Hello?

-Anybody around?

0:24:390:24:41

But the only signs of life are either equine...

0:24:410:24:44

Horses. Big heads.

0:24:440:24:46

..or canine.

0:24:460:24:47

There's dogs here.

0:24:470:24:49

Hello, pups.

0:24:490:24:51

They might be cute, but the sheriffs didn't come here for puppies.

0:24:510:24:56

-Hello?

-There's no sign of anybody, is there?

0:24:560:24:59

Deserted.

0:24:590:25:01

Where is everyone, Lawrence?

0:25:010:25:03

-Don't know, mate.

-Do you not think that's odd?

0:25:030:25:06

Someone has been here recently. Everything's open,

0:25:060:25:10

there's half a dozen horses and the stables are clearly working.

0:25:100:25:13

Whether they've made themselves scarce

0:25:140:25:16

after seeing the sheriffs arrive, or just popped out for lunch,

0:25:160:25:19

without making contact, there's not much Lawrence and Kev can do.

0:25:190:25:23

Feel like we're in the Walking Dead.

0:25:240:25:27

I can't believe there's nobody here.

0:25:290:25:31

They're in a sticky situation.

0:25:340:25:36

The animals and equipment here

0:25:360:25:37

could well belong to clients of the stables,

0:25:370:25:40

and there's no way of knowing what, if anything, belongs to the debtor.

0:25:400:25:44

-I don't think anyone's here, Lawrence.

-I don't.

0:25:440:25:47

Lawrence has a number for the woman who runs the place,

0:25:470:25:50

but gets no answer.

0:25:500:25:51

This is a message for Anne Hawes.

0:25:520:25:54

My name is Mr Grix. I'm an enforcement agent.

0:25:540:25:57

I've got a High Court writ against West Sussex Livery.

0:25:570:25:59

I'm actually at the stables at the moment.

0:25:590:26:02

Would you be able to ring me back, please,

0:26:020:26:04

or return to the stables immediately, please,

0:26:040:26:06

so that we can deal with this? Thank you.

0:26:060:26:08

Kev makes a final desperate plea to get someone's attention...

0:26:100:26:13

HE BEEPS HORN

0:26:140:26:16

..but even that goes unheard.

0:26:190:26:21

It appears deserted,

0:26:210:26:23

but you wouldn't expect them to just disappear,

0:26:230:26:25

so we're just going to sit here for a little while

0:26:250:26:28

in case somebody comes back -

0:26:280:26:30

or, as is sometimes the case, on jobs like this,

0:26:300:26:33

the first thing you know is the police turn up.

0:26:330:26:35

People put in a call to the police

0:26:350:26:37

saying "Oh, there's people on my land,

0:26:370:26:39

"there's people doing this, people doing that."

0:26:390:26:41

After waiting it out,

0:26:440:26:45

there's still no sign of either the police or the debtor,

0:26:450:26:48

and, eventually, they have to call it a day.

0:26:480:26:51

They take down the registration numbers of the vehicles here

0:26:510:26:55

so that they can run some checks.

0:26:550:26:57

Lawrence prepares some paperwork, and with nowhere better to leave it,

0:26:570:27:00

Kev tucks it under the gate latch as they leave.

0:27:000:27:03

Anyone getting in is seeing that.

0:27:040:27:07

The job might seem like it's a bit of a 'mare but, in fact,

0:27:070:27:11

it turns out to be quite the opposite.

0:27:110:27:13

While the sheriffs never managed to meet Ms Hawes in person,

0:27:140:27:18

the paperwork does have the desired effect.

0:27:180:27:21

Shortly after their visit, she paid the £2,273 owing,

0:27:210:27:25

and the claimant has finally got their money back.

0:27:250:27:29

Ken Warby is back in Luton.

0:27:340:27:36

He's on his way once again to the Stuart Hotel,

0:27:360:27:39

which owes more than £6,000 after failing to pay a linen company.

0:27:390:27:45

Last time, the manager told Ken he couldn't pay there and then,

0:27:450:27:49

and promised to do so within the week -

0:27:490:27:51

but the money hasn't arrived.

0:27:510:27:53

The original payment plan was

0:27:530:27:55

that he was going to pay me £1,000 the day after -

0:27:550:27:59

which he never did, that took about a week -

0:27:590:28:02

and the balance within six days.

0:28:020:28:04

Well, we are where we are now.

0:28:040:28:06

14 days later, he's only paid the £1,000.

0:28:060:28:10

Previously, Ken gave the manager the benefit of the doubt,

0:28:100:28:14

but this time Ken won't compromise.

0:28:140:28:17

The leverage we've got is that he's signed a controlled goods agreement.

0:28:170:28:22

If he doesn't pay, it's my intention to remove the items.

0:28:220:28:26

When a CGA is broken,

0:28:280:28:30

the sheriffs can return at any time to remove the assets -

0:28:300:28:34

no ifs, no buts.

0:28:340:28:36

Hello, again.

0:28:370:28:39

Once again, he's led into the office,

0:28:410:28:43

where, to his surprise, the manager hands him a payment receipt.

0:28:430:28:47

-This is a receipt you've got for online payment.

-Yeah.

0:28:470:28:50

You made yesterday, for £1,000.

0:28:500:28:52

The problem is...

0:28:520:28:54

you have broken the controlled goods agreement.

0:28:540:28:56

So the reason we're here now

0:28:570:29:00

is for full payment or removal of goods.

0:29:000:29:05

As black and as white as that.

0:29:050:29:07

And that's not the only bad news for the manager...

0:29:070:29:10

The problem you've also got is that because I'm here now

0:29:110:29:15

to remove goods, it's gone up.

0:29:150:29:17

So, with the £2,000 you've already paid...

0:29:190:29:22

..the amount you owe now is £5,901.09.

0:29:230:29:30

High Court costs. Very expensive.

0:29:300:29:32

..but the manager says he doesn't have £5,000

0:29:340:29:37

and hands his phone over to Ken.

0:29:370:29:39

Who am I talking to?

0:29:390:29:40

You're his friend?

0:29:410:29:43

The man on the phone says the hotel is trying to come to an arrangement

0:29:440:29:47

with the claimant to clear the debt.

0:29:470:29:50

The last contact we had with the claimant

0:29:500:29:53

was that he had given it to us to deal with.

0:29:530:29:57

It's in our hands and, as far as he's concerned,

0:29:570:30:00

he wants his payment.

0:30:000:30:01

But the man is still hoping to do a deal,

0:30:010:30:05

and says they can clear the debt in a couple of months.

0:30:050:30:07

No, it's not acceptable, sir.

0:30:080:30:10

No, sir. No, sir. We require payment in full now -

0:30:100:30:13

and unfortunately it's gone up, because we're here to remove goods.

0:30:130:30:18

Yeah, it has gone up to the tune of £5,901,

0:30:220:30:27

and it'll go up a further £300,

0:30:270:30:29

should a van turn up here to remove goods.

0:30:290:30:31

With a long list of hotel assets

0:30:310:30:33

that now technically belong to the court,

0:30:330:30:36

Ken wants full payment - and it's not up for negotiation.

0:30:360:30:40

I'm here now to remove goods now.

0:30:400:30:43

So rather than us waste any more time,

0:30:430:30:45

please start making these phone calls now

0:30:450:30:48

to get this money to me now. OK? I'll wait.

0:30:480:30:51

No, I'm not going to go away and come back again, I'm here now.

0:30:550:30:58

Please start making the phone calls,

0:30:580:31:00

I'll wait here for the payments.

0:31:000:31:03

Believe me, the last thing I want to do

0:31:040:31:06

is start removing goods from here.

0:31:060:31:08

But that's exactly what will happen if he doesn't pay -

0:31:080:31:11

and Ken reckons the threat is working.

0:31:110:31:14

It's gone from two months to four hours. Um...

0:31:140:31:18

So if he can get the money that quick,

0:31:180:31:21

I'm pretty confident we're going to get paid on this.

0:31:210:31:24

We'll wait around. He's going to make a few phone calls.

0:31:240:31:27

Ken makes himself comfortable in the dining room,

0:31:280:31:31

and just ten minutes later,

0:31:310:31:33

it seems things are moving in the right direction.

0:31:330:31:36

You've got three grand coming, you've got a grand in your pocket,

0:31:370:31:40

so you want just shy of two grand now.

0:31:400:31:42

-You are waiting for.

-Yeah.

-OK.

0:31:420:31:45

The problem is, that's not going to arrive for another few hours.

0:31:450:31:49

Ken's heard this man's promises before and is understandably wary...

0:31:560:32:00

..but it does seem like the threat

0:32:010:32:03

of imminent removal of goods has sunk in.

0:32:030:32:06

What he's saying to me is he's got £1,000 in his back pocket,

0:32:060:32:10

which I didn't know he had when I first got in here.

0:32:100:32:13

He's also contacted someone that is just about to transfer

0:32:130:32:17

£3,000 into his account.

0:32:170:32:20

So, in effect, he's got around about four.

0:32:200:32:24

He needs another £1,900,

0:32:240:32:27

and he's going to get someone else to help him out,

0:32:270:32:32

transfer it to his account.

0:32:320:32:33

However, that person is not going to be able to get that sorted

0:32:330:32:36

for a few hours yet, so I think it's a question of waiting around.

0:32:360:32:40

If I leave now then the pressure's off,

0:32:400:32:43

so I'm going to stay around and have a coffee, I think.

0:32:430:32:47

But in the end Ken doesn't even get the chance to enjoy a cappuccino.

0:32:490:32:53

A few minutes later,

0:32:530:32:54

the manager calls him back into the office once more

0:32:540:32:57

to tell him he has raised the full amount.

0:32:570:33:00

That didn't take long, did it?

0:33:000:33:02

Thank you very much.

0:33:030:33:05

When he arrived this morning, it didn't look like the hotel

0:33:050:33:08

was going to be able to come up with the money today -

0:33:080:33:11

but Ken's tough stance has been rewarded

0:33:110:33:14

and he's leaving with payment in full.

0:33:140:33:16

It's gone from £2,000 tomorrow, and the balance in a couple of months,

0:33:160:33:21

to immediate payment on a debit card.

0:33:210:33:24

I thought I'd get paid.

0:33:240:33:25

I didn't quite think I'd get paid as quick as that.

0:33:250:33:28

In Kent, enforcement agents Lawrence Grix and Kev McNally

0:33:390:33:43

are on the road. They have got a High Court writ

0:33:430:33:45

to collect a debt owed by a car dealer.

0:33:450:33:48

Right, today we're in Sittingbourne.

0:33:480:33:51

We're going to West Car Sales.

0:33:510:33:54

We're looking for £1,452.

0:33:540:33:57

I presume the debt is relating to the sale of a second-hand vehicle.

0:33:570:34:01

The claimant in the case is Kieron Kelly.

0:34:030:34:06

He first came across West Car Sales

0:34:060:34:08

when he was looking for a cheap second-hand car

0:34:080:34:10

and checked out the stock

0:34:100:34:12

at a few of his local dealers.

0:34:120:34:14

I saw a car that was appealing to me, it was within my price range.

0:34:140:34:19

The car was a Renault Megane.

0:34:190:34:21

It was black, it was a five-door car.

0:34:210:34:25

We have four grandchildren,

0:34:250:34:26

so of course, from time to time we pick the children up from school.

0:34:260:34:30

So what we needed was a car that would be able to accommodate

0:34:300:34:34

both myself and my partner and the grandkids.

0:34:340:34:36

Kieron went to the dealers and met the salesman there, a Mr Jeff Lee.

0:34:380:34:42

He seemed quite trustworthy, so I took the car out on a test drive

0:34:420:34:45

It wasn't great, but, at the end of the day, for £850, you know,

0:34:450:34:50

you are not going to get a great, great car -

0:34:500:34:52

but it seemed to be good value for money.

0:34:520:34:54

Kieron may not have been looking for a top-of-the-range car,

0:34:540:34:57

but there was one thing he was adamant about.

0:34:570:35:00

He didn't want anything

0:35:000:35:01

that had previously been in an accident or written off.

0:35:010:35:04

I had had a bad experience with a previous car,

0:35:040:35:08

so I asked the dealer specifically,

0:35:080:35:10

"Was the car that I was buying subject to a write-off?"

0:35:100:35:13

He just quite simply said no.

0:35:130:35:15

So Kieron bought it and drove it happily for several months,

0:35:160:35:20

until one day he scraped the front of the car

0:35:200:35:22

on the curb while parking

0:35:220:35:24

and was surprised by the amount of damage it caused.

0:35:240:35:28

The whole front end, ie the whole bumper,

0:35:280:35:31

was detached and it was hanging.

0:35:310:35:33

When Kieron got home he called the AA,

0:35:330:35:36

and when they took a look they found clues

0:35:360:35:38

that the car had in fact been in a previous accident after all.

0:35:380:35:41

They knocked the door and said,

0:35:410:35:43

"Look, I think you need to get your logbook."

0:35:430:35:45

So I came back into my home,

0:35:450:35:46

got the logbook and clearly on the logbook

0:35:460:35:49

it had stated that the car was subject to a write-off.

0:35:490:35:53

I was stunned, absolutely stunned.

0:35:530:35:56

Stunned, shocked, angry, annoyed.

0:35:560:36:00

The obvious thing to do was get in touch with West Car Sales.

0:36:000:36:04

I wanted to reject the vehicle and seek a full refund.

0:36:040:36:07

For some weeks, Kieron chased for a refund, but it wasn't forthcoming.

0:36:080:36:13

The car, meanwhile, was marooned on the driveway,

0:36:130:36:16

where it still remains...

0:36:160:36:17

Having been told that this car was potentially dangerous,

0:36:170:36:21

I didn't drive the car any more.

0:36:210:36:23

..and after still getting nowhere with West Car Sales,

0:36:230:36:26

Kieron took the company to court...

0:36:260:36:28

I supplied 15-19 pages' worth of correspondence,

0:36:280:36:32

together with text messages and all the communication.

0:36:320:36:36

So I was extremely confident of the outcome.

0:36:360:36:38

No concerns.

0:36:380:36:40

..but just moments before the hearing, Mr Lee arrived,

0:36:400:36:44

wanting to make a deal to pay Kieron back in instalments.

0:36:440:36:47

Kieron accepted, and the agreement was rubber-stamped by the judge.

0:36:470:36:52

His first payment was due to myself of £100 on the 1st of December.

0:36:520:36:57

He failed to pay it, and he said he had family issues.

0:36:570:37:00

So I decided to extend that for a week to give him a bit of grace,

0:37:000:37:04

and, lo and behold, he failed again.

0:37:040:37:06

Kieron's now had enough of being messed about

0:37:060:37:09

and has transferred his case up to the High Court.

0:37:090:37:12

Having seen the programme on the TV

0:37:120:37:14

I'm just really hopeful that they get the outcome I need.

0:37:140:37:18

Lawrence and Kev are about to arrive at West Car Sales -

0:37:230:37:26

and, ever the optimist,

0:37:260:37:28

Kev is hopeful of getting Mr Kelly's money...

0:37:280:37:31

I've had a look at the site online while I was doing my research,

0:37:310:37:35

and there's quite a few cars on the front here, cars and vans.

0:37:350:37:39

So hopefully they'll be owned by our debtor company

0:37:390:37:43

and we'll be able to get this debt paid.

0:37:430:37:46

..and as they pull into the garage,

0:37:460:37:49

it seems Kev's research was spot on...

0:37:490:37:51

There are a lot of vehicles here.

0:37:510:37:53

It goes a way back, doesn't it?

0:37:530:37:56

..and before they even manage to park,

0:37:560:37:58

a man pulls up alongside wanting to know why the sheriffs are here.

0:37:580:38:03

-West Car Sales, we're here for.

-Yeah.

0:38:030:38:05

It is you, is it?

0:38:050:38:06

It's the man who sold Kieron his car,

0:38:100:38:12

and it seems he doesn't dispute he owes the money.

0:38:120:38:15

In fact, he says he wants to pay.

0:38:150:38:18

The problem is, you've got assets.

0:38:250:38:27

We're not ordered out to collect your money,

0:38:270:38:29

we're ordered by the writ to take control of your goods.

0:38:290:38:31

All you can do is pay in full, because you've got the stock.

0:38:320:38:35

Although Mr Lee admits he sold Mr Kelly a car,

0:38:410:38:44

he's now saying he sold it under his own name,

0:38:440:38:47

not the garage's, where he's just an employee -

0:38:470:38:50

but that's not what it says on Mr Kelly's receipt,

0:38:500:38:53

nor on Lawrence's writ.

0:38:530:38:55

West Car Sales have got all the cars that are here?

0:38:550:38:58

Unfortunately, that's who we're here for.

0:38:580:39:01

It's their name on the writ,

0:39:010:39:02

so any of these cars that belong to West Car Sales

0:39:020:39:05

are likely to go to clear the debt.

0:39:050:39:06

At the moment it stands at £1,452.

0:39:060:39:09

You know, one of these cars would cover it.

0:39:100:39:13

The owner of West Car Sales is away, is he?

0:39:140:39:16

Mr Lee might not want his employer's cars to be taken,

0:39:170:39:20

but the sheriffs can't just ignore the paperwork from the courts.

0:39:200:39:23

Fair play to you for sticking your hands up and saying,

0:39:230:39:26

"Right, it should actually be me,"

0:39:260:39:27

but we can't deal with it as being you.

0:39:270:39:29

So if you want to pay it on their behalf, again, fair play to you.

0:39:290:39:33

No.

0:39:350:39:36

We can give you a little bit of time

0:39:360:39:38

to try and cobble the money together.

0:39:380:39:39

While Mr Lee is cooperating,

0:39:400:39:42

so far he still isn't showing any indication

0:39:420:39:45

that he's about to come up with the money -

0:39:450:39:47

so Lawrence ups the ante.

0:39:470:39:49

If it comes to removal, there's another 1,300 quid going on it.

0:39:490:39:52

It's going to virtually double.

0:39:520:39:54

No, we don't want that.

0:39:550:39:56

So that's what I'm saying,

0:39:560:39:57

I can give you a little bit of time to get this money together.

0:39:570:40:00

Yeah, we're not talking days.

0:40:030:40:05

Lawrence's strategy works.

0:40:050:40:07

Mr Lee suddenly produces the company's card

0:40:070:40:10

and offers to make a payment.

0:40:100:40:12

Right, let's see if we've got a signal.

0:40:130:40:15

You have to know your PIN number or you can't do it.

0:40:170:40:19

Unless you can go do it online.

0:40:190:40:21

Have you got online facilities here?

0:40:210:40:23

Mr Lee can't use the card, and heads into his office,

0:40:230:40:26

leaving Lawrence and Kev to ponder their next move.

0:40:260:40:29

Yeah, it's a bit of a shame he hasn't got the PIN number

0:40:310:40:33

to the account here,

0:40:330:40:35

otherwise we would have had a big part of it paid off.

0:40:350:40:37

So we'll just see what developments there are now.

0:40:370:40:39

The development is that Mr Lee immediately returns,

0:40:390:40:42

and this time he's brought cash.

0:40:420:40:45

-Do you want to hop in the other side and count this, Kev?

-Yeah.

0:40:450:40:47

-What's there?

-1,500.

0:40:470:40:50

-1,500, yeah?

-Yeah.

0:40:530:40:55

Mr Lee has settled the balance in full,

0:40:550:40:58

and he gives his side of the story.

0:40:580:41:00

I sold a car to a chap, it must have been about eight or nine months ago.

0:41:000:41:03

Chap had it for six months.

0:41:030:41:05

It had been involved in an accident, I wasn't aware of this.

0:41:050:41:08

The chap then came back and saw us,

0:41:080:41:09

and obviously gave us the point of view that he wanted a refund.

0:41:090:41:12

Wasn't in a position to do so at the time,

0:41:120:41:14

because obviously we wanted to have the car checked.

0:41:140:41:16

He didn't allow us to do so, and here we are today.

0:41:160:41:19

Thank you.

0:41:190:41:20

If you've done wrong, you've got to pay for it.

0:41:200:41:22

That's yours.

0:41:220:41:24

That went very well, really.

0:41:240:41:26

There was a point where we didn't think

0:41:260:41:27

he was going to be able to come up with the money

0:41:270:41:29

cos he didn't have the PIN number for the credit card he had,

0:41:290:41:32

but then he went off and appeared with cash.

0:41:320:41:34

So...happy days. Another job done.

0:41:340:41:36

And Lawrence isn't the only one who's pleased.

0:41:360:41:39

Excellent result, it's been a great day.

0:41:390:41:41

I'm just pleased to say it's all done, it's all dusted.

0:41:410:41:44

We can now just move on and enjoy the rest of our lives.

0:41:440:41:47

If you've won a County Court judgment and haven't been paid,

0:41:510:41:54

for £66 you can get the case transferred up to the High Court,

0:41:540:41:58

which will issue a writ for enforcement by the sheriffs.

0:41:580:42:01

My job is to collect in full or remove goods.

0:42:010:42:06

They've got special powers of entry...

0:42:060:42:08

We don't have to take any notice of your security protocol, I'm afraid.

0:42:080:42:11

..and there's no limit on the size of the debts they can pursue.

0:42:110:42:14

£1.6 million.

0:42:140:42:16

If they're successful,

0:42:180:42:19

they'll recover your money and costs from the debtor...

0:42:190:42:22

Have you got the cash now, then?

0:42:220:42:24

..as well as their own fees, which are set by the government.

0:42:240:42:27

She's paid, the judgment is settled.

0:42:270:42:29

Thank you very much.

0:42:290:42:30

If the sheriffs can't get your money,

0:42:300:42:33

they'll ask you to pay a fee of £75 plus VAT.

0:42:330:42:37

It's mid-morning,

0:42:410:42:42

and Tommy and Craig are on the outskirts of Birmingham.

0:42:420:42:45

They are looking for a man who runs a sandwich business

0:42:450:42:48

and who owes thousands of pounds to a former worker.

0:42:480:42:52

We're off to go and see Mr Trevor Johnson.

0:42:530:42:55

He trades as TJ's Sandwiches.

0:42:550:42:58

This one's an employment tribunal case,

0:42:580:43:01

so it's clearly a dispute between employer and employee.

0:43:010:43:04

The claimant says she'd worked for Mr Johnson for ten years

0:43:050:43:09

before he made her redundant without notice.

0:43:090:43:12

He also made unauthorised deductions from her wages

0:43:120:43:15

and owes her holiday pay.

0:43:150:43:17

Mr Johnson didn't attend the hearing

0:43:170:43:19

and the tribunal ruled against him by default.

0:43:190:43:24

He still hasn't paid, and owes £4,036.

0:43:240:43:27

As the address on the writ appears to be

0:43:320:43:34

for some kind of industrial unit,

0:43:340:43:36

rather than Mr Johnson's home address,

0:43:360:43:38

the sheriffs are hopeful of finding suitable assets.

0:43:380:43:41

I think this is actually where they prep and make the sandwiches.

0:43:410:43:45

Hopefully, we'll get the employee the money

0:43:450:43:47

that the court has said that she deserves.

0:43:470:43:49

The sheriffs reach their destination,

0:43:490:43:51

and head in in search of Mr Johnson.

0:43:510:43:53

Hello.

0:43:540:43:55

-Hello.

-Is Mr Johnson about?

0:43:560:43:58

Can he be contacted at all?

0:44:000:44:01

Has anybody got his number?

0:44:040:44:06

No?

0:44:060:44:07

Who's in charge whilst he's not here?

0:44:070:44:10

Nobody has got his telephone number at all?

0:44:110:44:13

Who would you phone in an emergency?

0:44:130:44:15

You just deal with it yourselves?

0:44:170:44:19

My name is Mr Wild, and we are High Court enforcement agents.

0:44:200:44:23

We're here today to execute a court order, a High Court writ of control.

0:44:240:44:29

So we need to get in contact with Mr Johnson,

0:44:300:44:32

as a matter of urgency.

0:44:320:44:34

But just then a man emerges from the back.

0:44:350:44:38

Hello, sir.

0:44:380:44:40

Are you Mr Johnson?

0:44:400:44:41

Hello, Mr Johnson.

0:44:410:44:43

My name's Mr Wild.

0:44:430:44:45

It seems Mr Johnson was here all along -

0:44:450:44:48

and he now excuses himself momentarily to switch off a machine.

0:44:480:44:52

Well, there you go.

0:44:530:44:54

All of a sudden, he turns up at the back.

0:44:540:44:57

When Mr Johnson returns, he asks our cameraman to leave.

0:44:570:45:01

Inside, Tommy and Craig explain

0:45:060:45:09

they're here on behalf of his former employee,

0:45:090:45:12

and their writ empowers them to collect just over £4,000,

0:45:120:45:16

otherwise, they'll have to remove goods to cover the value instead.

0:45:160:45:19

Thankfully, Mr Johnson knows all about the debt,

0:45:190:45:22

and the sheriffs are spared the task

0:45:220:45:24

of working out whether any of the vehicles outside belong to him.

0:45:240:45:28

He agrees to pay, and half an hour later, Tommy and Craig are leaving,

0:45:280:45:32

slightly surprised about how straightforward it was

0:45:320:45:35

considering the reception they got when they arrived.

0:45:350:45:38

We've gained peaceable access,

0:45:380:45:40

met the workers who initially said that our guy wasn't there -

0:45:400:45:44

but, like the Scarlet Pimpernel, he appeared from the back.

0:45:440:45:47

His wife was actually in the office at the front of the building,

0:45:470:45:49

so explained the situation and ultimately we got paid in full.

0:45:490:45:54

Every year, 3.9 million motor insurance claims

0:46:040:46:07

are made in the UK as a result of accidents, theft or damage.

0:46:070:46:12

99% of these claims are accepted and subsequently paid out,

0:46:120:46:17

but occasionally claimants find themselves

0:46:170:46:19

unable to get the money they're owed.

0:46:190:46:22

Lawrence and Kev are heading towards the Sussex coast,

0:46:230:46:26

to deal with one of these cases.

0:46:260:46:28

We're off to Hastings Insurance Services Limited.

0:46:290:46:33

We are looking for £4,575.

0:46:330:46:38

The claimant is Bill Young from Ashington in Northumberland.

0:46:400:46:44

It all began with an outing to the local takeaway

0:46:440:46:47

with wife Christine and their kids.

0:46:470:46:50

We got in the car, headed down the road,

0:46:500:46:52

and just as I was approaching the roundabout,

0:46:520:46:55

the guy came out from the left.

0:46:550:46:56

I did see it coming,

0:46:560:46:57

but it was right at the last second

0:46:570:46:59

and there was no way I could get out of the way.

0:46:590:47:01

The other driver smashed into the side of Bill's car,

0:47:010:47:04

writing it off and leaving the family shaken and hurt.

0:47:040:47:08

Christine suffered whiplash,

0:47:080:47:10

and it soon became clear that so did their 15-year-old daughter, Elise.

0:47:100:47:15

My daughter realised at school when she was sitting

0:47:150:47:18

on the high chairs in the science lab,

0:47:180:47:21

cos she had no back support.

0:47:210:47:23

She had to go through physio and stuff like that.

0:47:230:47:26

But the good news

0:47:260:47:28

was that the Youngs' insurance policy was supportive.

0:47:280:47:30

They said they would claim costs and compensation

0:47:300:47:33

from the other driver's insurers, Hastings.

0:47:330:47:36

The driver had said it was his fault,

0:47:360:47:38

so we had nothing really to worry about -

0:47:380:47:41

but as it went on, it started to drag on and drag on.

0:47:410:47:43

It seemed that Hastings wasn't going to pay out just like that.

0:47:430:47:47

I was quite surprised,

0:47:470:47:49

because it's quite a big insurance company

0:47:490:47:50

and I thought it would just be...

0:47:500:47:52

they would pay up straightaway, sort of thing.

0:47:520:47:54

Weeks became months, and the situation

0:47:540:47:56

was becoming increasingly worrying for the family.

0:47:560:47:59

I was just stressed all the time,

0:47:590:48:01

ringing up the insurance company just about every other day.

0:48:010:48:05

I would send one thing

0:48:050:48:06

and then they would say, "We need something else."

0:48:060:48:08

Well, I thought, "Well why didn't you say that in the first place?"

0:48:080:48:11

A few months after the accident,

0:48:120:48:14

the Youngs did receive the pay-out for their written-off car,

0:48:140:48:18

but it took a year before Christine got compensation for her injuries -

0:48:180:48:22

and Elise's whiplash was even less straightforward.

0:48:220:48:25

It turned out she'd have to go to court.

0:48:250:48:28

The guy who was representing the other company,

0:48:280:48:31

he basically just agreed they would pay out.

0:48:310:48:34

There was no questions asked.

0:48:340:48:36

It just seemed to be a waste of time.

0:48:360:48:38

The Youngs could at least expect the matter to finally be resolved -

0:48:400:48:44

but 18 months after the accident, they're still waiting.

0:48:440:48:47

Now the Youngs' insurers have decided to take the final step.

0:48:480:48:52

They've obtained a High Court writ against Hastings Insurance

0:48:520:48:56

and engaged the sheriffs.

0:48:560:48:57

We didn't expect this, so we'll see what happens from here,

0:48:570:49:00

but hopefully we'll finally get what...

0:49:000:49:02

-What we deserve.

-..what we need. Yeah.

0:49:020:49:04

Lawrence and Kev are soon to arrive

0:49:110:49:12

at Hastings Insurance Services Limited.

0:49:120:49:15

It's up this road somewhere, I believe.

0:49:150:49:18

There it is - Conquest House, Hastings Direct.

0:49:180:49:21

Lawrence and Kev park up and head into the building...

0:49:210:49:25

-Hi there.

-They'll rumble you, Pete, straight away.

0:49:250:49:27

..but our cameraman doesn't get far.

0:49:270:49:30

Morning, yeah.

0:49:300:49:31

We wait outside, while Lawrence explains.

0:49:310:49:34

My name's Mr Grix. My colleague and I are enforcement agents.

0:49:340:49:37

We've got a High Court writ against Hastings Insurance Services Limited.

0:49:370:49:40

The sheriffs' unannounced arrival causes some confusion.

0:49:440:49:47

Lawrence and Kev don't know any of the specifics of the case,

0:49:470:49:51

all they've got is a writ against the company

0:49:510:49:53

with Mr Young's name on it, and no-one here knows who he is.

0:49:530:49:57

One of the issues they've got at the moment

0:49:580:50:01

is looking for the person in the claim.

0:50:010:50:03

Once they find out who that is,

0:50:030:50:05

they'll be back down and sorting out.

0:50:050:50:07

They're familiar with these scenarios.

0:50:070:50:09

I think with such a big company,

0:50:090:50:11

they must get a few of these things sort of slip through the net.

0:50:110:50:14

The sheriffs can demand the writ is paid regardless,

0:50:150:50:18

but companies are usually reluctant to reach for their credit cards

0:50:180:50:21

until they know what they're paying for -

0:50:210:50:24

so Lawrence is prepared to give them a bit of time,

0:50:240:50:27

rather than threatening to remove assets from the office.

0:50:270:50:30

Another 45 minutes passes before, eventually, he's out.

0:50:320:50:36

Apparently they'd already agreed a settlement

0:50:360:50:39

and the solicitor should have paid it,

0:50:390:50:41

so it's actually the solicitors that have paid it now.

0:50:410:50:43

It took a bit longer than we would've liked, really,

0:50:430:50:46

but sometimes it does.

0:50:460:50:47

They've been paid the full £4,575.

0:50:510:50:55

18 months after their car accident,

0:50:550:50:58

the Youngs have finally got the compensation they were owed.

0:50:580:51:01

Well, we finally heard from the sheriffs.

0:51:040:51:06

It's good news.

0:51:060:51:07

They're getting the money, so that's great.

0:51:070:51:10

We would have preferred that we didn't need to claim

0:51:100:51:12

and we didn't need it, but that's what these things are for.

0:51:120:51:15

Tommy and Craig are back in the van, on their way to another job.

0:51:240:51:28

they're about to visit a man who owes a substantial sum of money.

0:51:280:51:32

So we're in the suburbs of Birmingham again today.

0:51:320:51:36

We're off to go and see a Mr Kev Dooley.

0:51:360:51:39

Mr Dooley was taken to court by another man several months ago.

0:51:390:51:43

He didn't defend the case

0:51:430:51:45

and a judgment was issued against him by default.

0:51:450:51:48

He now owes £7,381.

0:51:480:51:52

The sheriffs have been trying to contact Mr Dooley,

0:51:540:51:57

but with no success.

0:51:570:51:58

We've been there numerous times before,

0:51:580:52:01

had no response at all to our letters,

0:52:010:52:04

however there's a number of vehicles...

0:52:040:52:06

..in our guy's name,

0:52:070:52:09

so the intention is today to go and remove them,

0:52:090:52:12

if he's not going to pay the bill.

0:52:120:52:15

They reach Mr Dooley's home address,

0:52:150:52:17

and sure enough, two of the vehicles they were hoping to find are there.

0:52:170:52:22

There's a Volkswagen van...

0:52:220:52:24

That's free of finance.

0:52:240:52:25

So we need to get a clamp on that.

0:52:250:52:27

..and a Vauxhall hatchback.

0:52:270:52:29

The sheriffs get straight to work.

0:52:290:52:31

Tommy clamps the van, while Craig tries the door.

0:52:310:52:34

As usual, there's no answer.

0:52:360:52:39

There's got to be someone here, hasn't there?

0:52:400:52:42

There's all these cars here.

0:52:420:52:44

I've got a phone number.

0:52:450:52:47

Try ringing him.

0:52:470:52:48

He does - but it goes straight to answerphone.

0:52:480:52:51

Hello, this is a message for Mr Kev Dooley.

0:52:520:52:56

I need you to contact me as soon as possible, Mr Dooley. Thank you.

0:52:560:52:59

Let's order the truck.

0:53:010:53:03

-It's all we can do.

-It's all we can do, isn't it?

0:53:030:53:05

With Mr Dooley owing upwards of £7,000,

0:53:060:53:09

Craig presses ahead and books in the removal of both vehicles.

0:53:090:53:14

It's done. Sending two vehicles.

0:53:140:53:16

The sheriffs retreat to the van to wait it out -

0:53:160:53:20

but soon Tommy spots a young man

0:53:200:53:22

who he thinks is taking an unusual amount of interest

0:53:220:53:25

in what they're up to...

0:53:250:53:27

See the red door?

0:53:270:53:28

He's been stood out the front of it watching us the whole time,

0:53:280:53:30

and he's only just gone in there.

0:53:300:53:32

-Could be the son.

-Maybe.

0:53:320:53:34

..and shortly afterwards,

0:53:340:53:36

the person Tommy's seen comes over to speak to them,

0:53:360:53:39

accompanied by an older man.

0:53:390:53:41

Is it Mr Dooley?

0:53:410:53:42

-Is he?

-Yeah, he is.

0:53:440:53:46

Right.

0:53:480:53:49

The man says he's just a neighbour

0:53:490:53:51

and the debtor is apparently away for another month.

0:53:510:53:55

Tommy explains he's a High Court enforcement agent

0:53:550:53:58

with a writ to execute.

0:53:580:53:59

The problem we've got at the moment, you see,

0:53:590:54:02

is they want us to remove vehicles today, which are registered to him,

0:54:020:54:06

which obviously we don't want to do,

0:54:060:54:07

we'd rather speak to him and get it sorted out,

0:54:070:54:09

but we need to talk to him, really.

0:54:090:54:11

The only way is money.

0:54:140:54:16

It's not a small amount. I can't discuss the details.

0:54:170:54:19

Is it your father? Oh, OK.

0:54:190:54:22

He would have had letters here.

0:54:230:54:25

Craig was right.

0:54:250:54:27

The young man is Mr Dooley's son -

0:54:270:54:29

but he's not in a position to stump up several thousand pounds

0:54:290:54:32

on his dad's behalf...

0:54:320:54:34

They can't really help out, to facilitate the payment,

0:54:340:54:36

to stop the vehicles going,

0:54:360:54:38

so unfortunately it's a bit of a bad situation

0:54:380:54:41

and it looks like they're still going to be going.

0:54:410:54:43

..but just as the sheriffs are gearing up for the removal,

0:54:430:54:47

a call comes through from the debtor's mother.

0:54:470:54:50

She says that she owns the van,

0:54:500:54:52

so doesn't think the sheriffs can remove it -

0:54:520:54:55

but she's not able to provide proof of her purchase right now.

0:54:550:54:58

She's saying that she's purchased the vehicle for him,

0:54:590:55:02

to put into his business -

0:55:020:55:04

but as we've said, in the absence of proof,

0:55:040:55:06

at this late stage it won't prevent the removal from taking place.

0:55:060:55:09

Before long, the first removal truck arrives

0:55:110:55:13

and the logistical challenge begins.

0:55:130:55:16

The van turns out to be harder than expected

0:55:160:55:18

thanks to its long wheelbase.

0:55:180:55:20

I don't think it'll go on.

0:55:200:55:22

Backwards, it doesn't fit, so they try a new strategy...

0:55:230:55:27

If he takes it from the front,

0:55:270:55:28

it will be shorter at the front and you'll be able to get it on,

0:55:280:55:31

and have the back end sticking off the back.

0:55:310:55:33

..and this time, they have more success.

0:55:330:55:35

The car, on the other hand, is a different story altogether.

0:55:380:55:42

The issue is the wheel.

0:55:420:55:44

Obviously, with a steering lock on like that, to drag it,

0:55:440:55:47

it's going to be a nightmare.

0:55:470:55:49

Drag it from there, I think.

0:55:490:55:51

The Vauxhall is unceremoniously heaved up onto the truck.

0:55:530:55:57

It's not pretty, but it works -

0:55:580:56:02

and the car is also soon on its way.

0:56:020:56:05

-That's good.

-Cheers, thanks. Take care, mate.

0:56:050:56:07

Both vehicles will be held for seven days.

0:56:120:56:15

If Mr Dooley doesn't come up with the money,

0:56:150:56:17

and provided the vehicles do belong to him,

0:56:170:56:19

then they'll be sold

0:56:190:56:21

and the claimant will finally receive the money they're owed.

0:56:210:56:25

Yeah, a bit of a result.

0:56:250:56:27

We've only been here just over the two hours.

0:56:270:56:29

We made some phone calls

0:56:290:56:31

and tried to make contact at the address, nothing.

0:56:310:56:33

So it resulted in two vehicles going.

0:56:330:56:36

Following filming, Mr Dooley didn't pay any money towards his debt

0:56:370:56:41

and his Vauxhall has been sold at auction.

0:56:410:56:45

Mr Dooley told us that he believes he doesn't owe any money

0:56:450:56:48

and that the case against him was unfounded.

0:56:480:56:51

He says he didn't respond to the court paperwork

0:56:510:56:54

because his name was spelt incorrectly,

0:56:540:56:56

so he didn't believe the letters were for him.

0:56:560:56:59

He says he hasn't appealed the judgment

0:56:590:57:01

because of the costs involved.

0:57:010:57:03

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