Episode 3 The Sheriffs Are Coming


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-Meet the sheriffs.

-My name's Mr Grix.

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My colleague and I are enforcement agents.

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We're here with a court order today.

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They work for the High Court, and if a judge says you're owed money,

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it's the sheriffs' job to go and get it.

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-Hey, all the keys.

-I'm going to be calling a locksmith.

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-They can demand payment on the spot...

-What can you pay us now?

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-You're going to get the cash, are you?

-Are you paying the bill?

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-..or remove assets instead.

-You've got 30 minutes to make the payment.

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We will start removing stuff from the building.

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You'll have a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction.

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Obstructing their work can be a criminal offence.

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-I wouldn't do that if I were you.

-Don't lie to me.

-No messing.

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Every year, sheriffs in England and Wales recover unpaid debts

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totalling more than £80 million.

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Coming up, the Clark family paid

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thousands of pounds to have an extension built on their home,

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but the work was never completed.

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We'd got dust everywhere, we'd got water coming through when it rained.

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I felt like he was taking me for a bit of a fool,

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and I didn't like that.

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Now Tracy and Adam have tracked down the builder responsible,

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and are out to make him pay.

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He's going to be given 20 minutes to open that door and make a noise like

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£3,917, otherwise I'll be removing this and it'll cost him more.

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Rob puts his foot in the door to prevent a bar owner from locking him

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-out.

-I'm a High Court enforcement agent

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Don't shut the door, all right?

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My foot is staying in the door, it's not going anywhere.

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-Walk off my property now!

-And what are you going to do?

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And when tempers run high over a clamped 4x4,

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the sheriffs call for backup.

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If you get any closer, sir, I'm going to use reasonable force...

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-Are you? Go on, then!

-..to remove you from me.

-Go on, then, do it!

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We've got an aggressive male in one of our agent's faces.

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-I need police assistance urgently.

-Go on!

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It's a bitterly cold early start for High Court enforcement agents

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-Adam Crossley and Tracy Lee.

-Very icy this morning.

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It was treacherous, coming down.

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It's 7am, and Tracy and Adam are in Yorkshire, pursuing an unpaid debt.

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It's a residential address we've got for an individual,

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I do believe a builder.

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Hopefully, there's going to be

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vehicles there, possibly vans etc, that can be used as leverage.

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The builder in question is Mr Shaw.

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He let down a young family when he abandoned the job,

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despite being paid thousands of pounds.

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Now the sheriffs are going to pay him a visit.

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And this is the family he let down.

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Richard and Laura Clark had wanted more room for their growing family,

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and rather than move, they decided to add a dining room extension.

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We got quite excited, we got some plans drawn together,

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and, you know, we decided to have a dining room built.

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Among those invited to quote for the job was Mr Shaw.

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Mr Shaw, a very nice chap, came

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round, knew what he was talking about,

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said that he could start within a timeframe that we were happy with.

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We'd got several quotes in,

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and his was roughly roundabout the same price,

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so we decided to go with him. He was enthusiastic to take the job on.

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The price was just over £15,000, for the building, plasterwork,

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and electrics. It was a big decision for the Clark family.

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This is an area that we want to stay in,

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we want our children to grow up here,

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so getting the house right at this stage, for us, was really important

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and we were really excited about this extension.

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It was something that we'd thought about for a while,

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and now the first brick was being laid.

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Richard paid half the money upfront, and two weeks later,

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work got underway.

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On the first day, I wanted to take a day off work so I could actually

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watch the first bit be done.

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Initially, everything seemed to be going to plan.

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It started off reasonably well.

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The porch was gone within half a day

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and the lads that Mr Shaw had got to do the labouring work

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worked really hard. And we thought, you know,

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"We've got a good team here that's all pulling in the same direction."

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But when building inspectors visited the site,

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they weren't happy with the foundations,

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and plans had to be changed.

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I expected Mr Shaw to deal with this.

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When we originally sorted the contract out,

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Mr Shaw put dealing with building inspector,

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and all the background work that needed to be done with that.

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So I assumed that this was going to be done through Mr Shaw,

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but it seemed to lay more on my shoulders.

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The extra work meant the project was running over time

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and thousands of pounds over budget.

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It was also taking its toll on the Clark family

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and Richard in particular.

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I was having to leave work early to make sure that certain things had

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been done. I was spending a lot of time on the phone,

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trying to organise materials to come at a certain day,

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at a certain time, to coincide with when the builders were here.

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What was supposed to be a six-eight week project was badly delayed,

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but eventually the work on the

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foundations was finished and signed off.

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Finally, after about a month, we started laying the first bricks,

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so a lot of the problems, we thought, had ended,

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and the bricks started to get laid,

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and we started having an extension that was slowly being built.

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But the project was beset by more problems,

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and the delays were very frustrating.

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Mr Shaw was starting to say that he was putting other jobs off to finish

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this, so there was almost a little bit of pressure to, you know,

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"Let's just keep going...

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"do what we have to do, but, you know, anything that's going to be

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"complicated, that's going to take a little bit more time..."

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There wasn't really an appetite for that.

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Eventually, with the basic structure in place,

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it was time to secure it against the elements.

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Mr Shaw had got some guys in to come and do the roof

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and they did a great job.

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They were up there for probably two full days,

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-and gave us a really nice roof.

-But that was too good to last.

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There was a fallout between Mr Shaw

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and the guys who were doing the roof, so they never came back.

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So that resulted in, probably, 90% of the roof being completed.

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However, the bits that weren't completed, when it rained,

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we started noticing water coming in.

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By this time, the Clarks were due to go on a family holiday to France.

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The timing couldn't have been worse.

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There was still some outstanding work to be done,

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the roof still needed to be fixed.

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There was some construction work that still needed to be done.

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Mr Shaw told them he'd finish the job while they were away,

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so they put their faith in him,

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paid him the balance and left him to it.

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He put our mind to ease. He said, "Go off on your holiday.

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"While you're away, I'll get the work done,

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"I'll make sure that the roofers come back and finish the roofing."

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You know, and he gave us his word that that would be done.

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They returned with high hopes, but those hopes were quickly dashed.

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We knew when we saw the skip that, you know,

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we'd just pulled outside in the car...we saw the skip and

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we just knew that they'd not been round to finish it off.

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And that feeling that you get when you've just come back off holiday,

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and you're really excited to see the

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work and the finished article, and...yeah.

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We walked round the back, and...

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it was how it was left.

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For Richard, it was the final straw.

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At that point, I was very angry.

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It was the middle of the morning, we'd had a long trip back,

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and I tried to phone Mr Shaw and there was no answer.

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So I sent him a text message and he failed to respond.

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Mr Shaw did eventually call back, saying he'd broken his arm,

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but as far as Richard was concerned, it was one excuse too many.

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He told me that he'd provide us with an extension that we'd be proud of,

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and he failed to deliver.

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The roof was still unfinished,

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as was some of the rendering and plasterwork.

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We'd got dust everywhere, we'd got water coming through when it rained.

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At this point, Emma was, you know, she was five months old.

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We work full-time, we had an unsecured property,

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and it was not what we wanted when we came back off holiday.

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Mr Shaw never completed the work,

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so Richard had to find more money to pay someone else to finish the job.

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This work needed to be done.

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Every time it rained, I was at work, looking out of the window, thinking,

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"Please, don't rain." We had nothing left.

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So we relied on my wife's parents to lend us the money,

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so we could get the remedial work done.

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Richard then decided to take Mr Shaw to court,

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to try and get back the extra money he'd paid out to complete the work.

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I felt like he was almost taking me for a bit of a fool,

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and I didn't like that, you know?

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When you're doing building work on

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somebody's house, it's...it's a major thing, you know?

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You've got a lot of responsibility with that.

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Mr Shaw failed to turn up at court,

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and a County Court judgment was issued against him,

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but he still didn't pay Richard the money for the remedial work,

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so Richard escalated the case to the High Court

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and called in the sheriffs.

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Hopefully the sheriffs

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will get a good conclusion from our perspective,

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but also teach him that he can't just treat people like this.

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The amount owed today is £3,917.

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Tracy and Adam are in Yorkshire, on their way to see Mr Shaw.

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But it seems there may be a problem ahead.

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The sheriffs have been notified that

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Mr Shaw has moved out of his family home.

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We're getting there early to see if we can catch him in,

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cos the claimant believes he does live at the house.

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If he does live there, the sheriffs

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are hoping that any vehicles parked outside will give them

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sufficient leverage to clear the debt.

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If there's a van there, and we're looking to seize the van...

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he's not going to want that to happen, is he?

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-All right, we're somewhere here?

-Yeah, to the left.

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Yeah, there's a van outside, but...

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it's, er, it's very old.

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There's also a second car parked on the driveway.

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But before clamping them,

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Tracy wants to see if she can get a response from inside the property.

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-You all right?

-Yeah, just watch your footing.

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SHE KNOCKS ON DOOR

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At first, there's no answer...

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SHE KNOCKS ON DOOR

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..then someone comes to the door.

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He won't open it, and he asks Tracy if she can come back later.

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No. Is it Mr Shaw? Pardon?

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I'm looking for a Mr Shaw.

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Sorry?

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Can you open the door?

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The man seems reluctant to open up,

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but Tracy isn't going to give up that easily.

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Well, I've got this address for a Mr Shaw.

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It's Miss Lee speaking, from the Sheriffs Office, enforcement.

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The man behind the door tells Tracy Mr Shaw doesn't live here.

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He doesn't live here?

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So the vehicles outside don't belong to him?

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According to the man inside, they don't belong to Mr Shaw,

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but because the sheriffs believe the vehicles are Mr Shaw's,

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they have the power to remove them.

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If they're wrong, the onus will then be on the owner to prove the

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vehicles are theirs.

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The van's been left unlocked, so Adam checks inside.

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There's plenty of paperwork, but nothing to indicate who owns it.

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Meanwhile, Tracy's getting nowhere

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with the man who's apparently not Mr Shaw.

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He's shot up back upstairs, he's not having it.

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I think it's him, do you?

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-Yeah.

-Yeah, he wasn't prepared to open the door to speak to me.

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He said his name's Mr Lowe.

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Well, it's coincidental, isn't it?

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-Should we just clamp that up?

-Yeah.

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Let me go and see if I can speak to the neighbours.

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While Tracy goes to talk to other residents in the street,

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Adam decides to clamp the builder's van.

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There's no documentation, so I'm just going to clamp it,

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to see if we can get this gentleman to...

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show his identity to us.

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Adam goes ahead and clamps the van...

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..and then the second vehicle that's parked on the driveway.

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He's hoping that, by clamping both vehicles,

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he will persuade the man inside the property to open up and provide some

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evidence that he is or isn't Mr Shaw.

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Neighbours have told Tracy Mr Shaw does live at the address,

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and as far as they're aware, he hasn't moved out.

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I've just spoken to the neighbour -

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they've confirmed he lives here and that's his van.

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The two rules are, don't lie to me and don't ignore me.

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He's broken one, he's ignoring me,

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so he's getting off on the wrong foot.

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So the car's been clamped.

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He's going to be given 20 minutes to open that door

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and make a noise like...

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£3,917, otherwise I'll be removing this and it'll cost him more.

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With both vehicles clamped,

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the man finally opens the front door and admits he is Mr Shaw.

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He says he denied it earlier because he was startled by the early wake-up

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-call.

-Right, this is in relation to an outstanding debt on Mr Clark.

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We're here today to get this paid in full.

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£3,917.

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He says he's been off work and has no money.

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Right, Mr Shaw, I'm not accepting that. Do you want to just go inside?

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I'll give you 20 minutes to see what you can get together, and come out,

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before we take this any further. I'm giving you some time to...

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Whose are these vehicles?

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He says the van's his, but the car on the driveway belongs to his wife,

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and in any case, it has a loan secured against it.

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He's claiming that there's a loan on the vehicle that's on the drive,

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so he's gone to go and get that documentation to prove that.

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He still maintains there's absolutely no money available today,

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and I'm looking to put forward an

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offer of repayment via monthly instalments.

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The sheriffs know the van won't fetch much at auction

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and isn't worth removing.

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With no other assets in sight,

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a payment plan is looking like the best option for the sheriffs.

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They decide to wait and see what sort of offer Mr Shaw comes up with.

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-Let him sweat a bit.

-It's still freezing outside, but thankfully

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Adam's dressed for the occasion.

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Thermal underwear, thick-soled boots

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and occasionally...

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maybe two or three T-shirts under this shirt.

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Then a jumper, then a fleece, and then a coat.

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Tracy finds Adam's hat inside the van, and can't resist trying it on.

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-What do you think?

-Nice, isn't it?

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-Suits you.

-Does it suit me?

-SHE LAUGHS

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Mr Shaw reappears, with proof of the logbook loan against his

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wife's car. He offers to pay the

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money he owes at a rate of £200 a month.

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Right, the only way we're going to accept that is if we enter the

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property to do a controlled goods agreement.

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That's to list your items to secure the debt.

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Mr Shaw reluctantly agrees.

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Tracy goes inside to list assets

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and draw up a controlled goods agreement.

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The items listed will technically become the property of

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-the court until the debt's cleared.

-Thanks, bye-bye.

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-Bye-bye.

-Tracy remerges with a payment plan in place,

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but this has been a challenging enforcement for the sheriffs.

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Yes, a difficult one, this.

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I've done a controlled goods agreement, the van's gone on it,

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bits and pieces from within,

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and then the arrangement's been put forward for monthly payments.

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Unfortunately, that's...that's the best that we can do today.

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Richard Clark is relieved to finally be getting the money back

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that he paid out to complete the building work.

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I've heard from the sheriffs and it's good news.

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£200 a month, apparently, with a controlled goods agreement.

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I just hope he sticks to the agreement that he's made with the

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sheriffs, and...you know, we can

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move forward, and hopefully he'll learn a lesson.

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Richard has since got another builder in to finish the extension,

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and as far as he's concerned, it's all ended well.

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I'm relieved to be stood in here now, not having damp coming through

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the walls, not having leaks.

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It's a nice extension, and it's what we wanted.

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Using the County Courts to try

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and recover money you're owed isn't difficult.

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1.5 million money claims are paid every year in

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England and Wales,

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involving anything from faulty goods or poor workmanship,

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to unpaid invoices.

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Claims can be filed online, or by post for a small fee.

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Both parties in the case will be asked to submit evidence,

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and you may have to attend a court hearing.

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If you're successful, the County Court judgment, or CCJ,

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will be issued against the debtor.

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If they still don't pay, that's when you call the sheriffs.

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Today, High Court enforcement agents Mike Perkins and John Farley are

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heading to Nuneaton in Warwickshire.

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They're looking for a Mr Leonard Lippitt,

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who has unpaid legal fees dating back more than a year.

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Today won't be the first time Mr Lippitt's had a

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visit from the sheriffs.

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Tommy's already been on this case previously,

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and he met with the defendant who

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wasn't being very helpful at the time.

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In fact, following that, Mr Lippitt

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failed to pay back any of the money he owed.

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Now, Mike and John are determined to finally sort it out.

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Mike has a bad throat and is losing his voice,

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but he's not going to let that stop him.

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We all know what I'm like.

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I don't like to mess about, I'm going to get the job done.

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There is a vehicle that we're going to be looking for.

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Tommy's done the relevant checks and whatnot.

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The vehicle is free from finance,

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so the sheriffs have got a simple plan.

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They'll clamp Mr Lippitt's car

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and use that as leverage to get the debt cleared.

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The vehicle we're going to go and seize is a 4x4,

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good condition, by all accounts,

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and we'll immobilise it as soon as we get there,

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and hopefully that'll prompt payment.

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At least that's the theory.

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The sheriffs know from experience

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that enforcements don't always go to plan.

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By the sounds of it, I think the guy...

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may try and put up a bit of a fight.

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Either way, if it's free from finance and he's not going to pay,

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we'll just uplift it straightaway.

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If the vehicle's not there, then we're going to struggle.

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Fingers crossed it's going to be on the drive,

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and we can execute the High Court writ.

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The amount owed today is £6,794.

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It's just down here, John.

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-Hopefully it'll be on the drive, so...

-It's silver, isn't it?

-Yes.

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The sheriffs edge their van slowly forward.

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They want to see if there's a vehicle in Mr Lippitt's driveway

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-without raising the alarm.

-Go on, be here, please.

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And it's here. Look at that.

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That is what we wanted to see.

0:19:050:19:07

Mike's keen to get the vehicle clamped before anyone realises

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-they're there.

-Let's crack on. Where's your padlocks, mate?

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In the back.

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Once the vehicle is immobilised,

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the sheriffs will have the leverage they need to get the debt cleared.

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In a sense, we're holding all the aces...at the moment.

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I've got my Aladdin's rug today, so that'll keep me...keep me dry.

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With Mike busy securing the clamp, Mr Lippitt appears at the door.

0:19:350:19:40

-John Farley, from High Court enforcement.

-Yeah?

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Looking for a Leonard Lippitt?

0:19:420:19:44

You're clamping somebody else's vehicle there, pal.

0:19:440:19:47

Mr Lippitt tells the sheriffs that the car parked on his driveway

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doesn't belong to him, and he's off to find proof.

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-We'd need to see proof of sale as well, John.

-Yeah.

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So, would you like to remove that now, please?

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-Let's have a look.

-All right.

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-What's this?

-"You are no longer the registered keeper of the vehicle."

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That's not proof of ownership.

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There's the receipt...from the guy that bought it.

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-Let's have a look.

-But the sheriffs don't think the receipt looks very

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convincing. They want to see proof that the vehicle really has been

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sold, and that the money has gone into his account.

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-All right, all you need to do...

-You need to remove that vehicle...

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-No. Sir...

-..or you're going to lose a clamp, pal, all right?

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-Am I?

-Yes, you are.

-Mike doesn't take kindly to the threat to damage

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or remove his clamp,

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and says he intends to go ahead and get the vehicle removed.

0:20:320:20:36

John, do us a favour, bring a recovery truck.

0:20:360:20:38

-Sir...

-You need to check your details out!

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You need to calm yourself down.

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-I don't need to calm myself down at all!

-Yes, you do.

-OK, and what...

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Mr Lippitt tells Mike the owner of the vehicle is on his way round.

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-I need to see transfer of funds.

-You don't need to see nothing!

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-Yes, I do.

-Pal, you are nothing! You're just civil, pal, so you take

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that away from that vehicle,

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and this guy will tell you the owner of it, and you'll remove it!

0:21:010:21:04

Mr Lippitt suddenly decides he doesn't want filming on his

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-driveway.

-Goodbye. Move your camera.

-If I don't see...

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If I don't see the relevant documentation...

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Move the camera off my property, now! Get off that property, now!

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We retreat to the public highway, but carry on filming.

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The sheriffs are enforcing a High Court writ,

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-and are entitled to stay put.

-Now, off my property!

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-No.

-Now! Now!

-No.

-I'm telling you, walk off my property...

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-Do me a favour, stay put...

-Walk off my property!

0:21:280:21:30

-Walk off my property now!

-And what are you going to do?

0:21:300:21:33

I'm telling you to get off, pal! I'm telling you to get off, pal!

0:21:330:21:37

Tempers are running high,

0:21:370:21:38

and Mike's worried things are about to boil over.

0:21:380:21:41

-Ring the police.

-Move off my property now!

0:21:410:21:44

-Ring the police.

-Get the

-BLEEP

-police! Move off my property now!

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-Police, please.

-If you get any closer, sir,

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I'm going to use reasonable force...

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-Are you? Go on, then.

-..to remove you from me.

-Go on, then! Do it!

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We've got an aggressive male in one of our agent's faces. I need

0:21:530:21:57

-police assistance urgently.

-Go on! Go on! Do it!

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Later, with the police on their way, the vehicle immobilised and the

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sheriffs standing their ground, a man turns up

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claiming he owns the vehicle parked in Mr Lippitt's driveway.

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-You can't take the truck though, can you?

-We can.

-There's nothing to say

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that truck belongs to him. That truck belongs to me.

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We can remove the truck if we've got reason to believe it's his.

0:22:170:22:20

It's my truck!

0:22:200:22:21

Today, High Court enforcement agents,

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Rob Foster and Gerald Anderson,

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are in central London, taking in the sights.

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There's Big Ben there on the right.

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Or Quiet Ben, as he's now known.

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It's an icon. It's known throughout the world.

0:22:450:22:47

The sheriffs are looking for a company called

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Matrix Office Furniture Limited.

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A former employee claimed Matrix dismissed her without notice or

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holiday pay. She took a case to an employment tribunal, and an award

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was made in her favour.

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The total amount owed today is £4,546.

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We have had a telephone call from the director, who has stated

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he can't pay this debt off in full.

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He'd like a long-term arrangement.

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But the sheriffs aren't interested in a long-term arrangement.

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They want a much shorter term arrangement -

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immediate payment in full.

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Gerald has been doing his homework, and has found out some interesting

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facts about Matrix Office Furniture.

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I've done a little bit of background on the company.

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I can see that the company has changed names on several occasions,

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back and forth, to different company names.

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Matrix Office Furniture is the name on the High Court writ, and is

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liable for the debt.

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But the director, in his call to the Sheriffs Office, claimed it no

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longer exists, and a new company has taken its place.

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If that's the case, the sheriffs may not be able to remove assets.

0:23:500:23:55

At least the sign above the door looks hopeful.

0:23:550:23:58

Hello. Is this Matrix?

0:23:580:24:01

Gerald asks for the director, a Mr Simon Lo Gatto.

0:24:010:24:05

-Hello, Simon.

-Hi.

-My name's Mr Anderson.

0:24:050:24:08

Mr Lo Gatto doesn't look particularly pleased to see the

0:24:100:24:12

sheriffs, and even less pleased to see our camera.

0:24:120:24:15

We leave the shop and continue to film from the street.

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How are we going to sort this, then?

0:24:210:24:23

Mr Lo Gatto tells the sheriffs he can't clear the debt, and the assets

0:24:230:24:26

in the shop belong to a different company -

0:24:260:24:28

Trinity Office Furniture Limited.

0:24:280:24:31

Luckily, Rob and Gerald have already checked his story out.

0:24:310:24:34

-It doesn't exist.

-We've been on Companies House.

0:24:340:24:36

There's no sign of that company at all.

0:24:360:24:38

Mr Lo Gatto has an explanation.

0:24:380:24:40

Apparently, Trinity has also changed its name and is now called

0:24:400:24:44

Matrix Office Interiors Limited. All very confusing.

0:24:440:24:48

Essentially, all we're interested in is payment in full or removal of

0:24:480:24:51

-goods.

-Mr Lo Gatto says they can't remove the goods because they don't

0:24:510:24:54

belong to Matrix Office Furniture.

0:24:540:24:57

Apparently, ownership has been transferred to the new company.

0:24:570:25:00

Give your accountant a ring. See if you can get the paperwork through on

0:25:000:25:03

proof of transfer. For a limited company, it'll be your accountant,

0:25:030:25:05

-won't it?

-But Mr Lo Gatto doesn't produce the necessary paperwork,

0:25:050:25:09

and Rob's starting to lose patience.

0:25:090:25:11

At the moment, your balance is £4,546.

0:25:110:25:14

I'll give you one last chance to pay it now, or we'll go to the next

0:25:140:25:18

stage and start listing goods. It'll go to 5,140.

0:25:180:25:21

You'll then have a further couple of minutes once we've finished that

0:25:210:25:24

paperwork. If you don't, it'll go up to over £6,000.

0:25:240:25:26

Rob and Gerald believe Matrix Office Furniture is trading here.

0:25:260:25:30

They're entitled to carry out a diligent search of the premises in

0:25:300:25:34

order to find assets or establish who owns them.

0:25:340:25:37

Rob decides to start with Mr Lo Gatto's office.

0:25:370:25:41

Now, I'm going to go through paperwork and I'm going to see what

0:25:410:25:44

information you've got here relating to this company.

0:25:440:25:47

But Mr Lo Gatto doesn't seem happy with the development.

0:25:470:25:50

As per a High Court writ, I'm entitled to search the office,

0:25:500:25:52

-all right?

-Mr Lo Gatto wants Rob to leave his office.

0:25:520:25:56

Rob tells him that obstructing a sheriff in the course of his duty is

0:25:560:25:59

a criminal offence.

0:25:590:26:01

What has happened is Rob's gone into the office and started rooting

0:26:010:26:04

around through the paperwork.

0:26:040:26:06

The director of the defending company has got certainly annoyed

0:26:060:26:09

with this. He's got into Rob's personal space.

0:26:090:26:12

Rob has told him that if he does not pay, he will escalate this.

0:26:120:26:15

Back in the showroom,

0:26:150:26:17

Rob and Gerald notice some boxes stacked up right by the open door.

0:26:170:26:22

They walk over to investigate.

0:26:220:26:24

-"Matrix Office Furniture."

-Yeah.

-"Matrix Office Furniture Limited."

0:26:240:26:28

-Yeah. "Client, Matrix Office Furniture."

-It's vital evidence.

0:26:280:26:32

-Invoices here. "Delivery address, Matrix Office Furniture."

-Yeah.

0:26:320:26:36

These packages have only recently been delivered, and they're

0:26:360:26:40

addressed to Matrix Office Furniture Limited -

0:26:400:26:43

the company on the writ.

0:26:430:26:45

So we've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,

0:26:450:26:49

about ten boxes here, all addressed to...

0:26:490:26:52

Matrix Office Furniture Limited.

0:26:540:26:56

That tells us that the company is still trading.

0:26:560:27:00

Mr Lo Gatto says he's trying to

0:27:010:27:02

raise funds to clear the debt, but needs more time. He also claims

0:27:020:27:06

these goods have already been bought and paid for by clients, so can't be

0:27:060:27:11

removed by the sheriffs.

0:27:110:27:13

Rob doesn't agree.

0:27:130:27:14

It's got your company name on it, delivered to this address.

0:27:140:27:17

You said these have been sold to whoever they sell...

0:27:170:27:19

-Show us the invoice.

-The sheriffs have now escalated the enforcement

0:27:190:27:23

to stage two, and are starting to list assets for removal.

0:27:230:27:27

One, two, three, four, five, six,

0:27:270:27:30

seven, eight, nine, ten.

0:27:300:27:32

What do you call them? Counters, desks?

0:27:320:27:34

-Office tables.

-Yeah.

0:27:340:27:37

Gerald comes outside to give us another update.

0:27:370:27:39

Rob has escalated it to enforcement stage two.

0:27:390:27:42

He's still denying things belong to him, but he is in the process now of

0:27:420:27:47

speaking to accountants, friends,

0:27:470:27:49

family etc, to raise funds so he

0:27:490:27:51

can make payment in full of this debt.

0:27:510:27:54

Finally, Mr Lo Gatto announces he

0:27:540:27:57

can clear the debt - a total of £5,140.

0:27:570:28:01

That includes the extra costs incurred during today's enforcement.

0:28:010:28:05

Hello. I just want to find out if a payment has entered our account.

0:28:050:28:10

Lovely, perfect. Yeah, brilliant. Thank you very much.

0:28:100:28:13

-OK, sir.

-Cheers, bye-bye.

-Bye-bye. Thank you.

0:28:130:28:16

Payment confirmed, the sheriffs leave.

0:28:160:28:19

All in all, a great result. Absolutely chuffed. We've sent him a

0:28:190:28:22

payment link and he's paid it in full.

0:28:220:28:25

Reluctantly, but he has settled the balance in full.

0:28:250:28:29

The former Matrix Office Furniture employee,

0:28:290:28:32

who was dismissed without notice will now get the money she's owed.

0:28:320:28:35

If you've won a County Court judgment and haven't been paid,

0:28:450:28:48

for £66 you can get the case transferred up to the High Court,

0:28:480:28:53

which will issue a writ for enforcement by the sheriffs.

0:28:530:28:56

-Hello.

-I'm an enforcement agent enforcing a High Court writ.

0:28:560:29:00

I'm here just to execute the court order.

0:29:000:29:02

They've got more powers than County Court bailiffs.

0:29:020:29:05

We're going to force entry into the shop in about the next ten,

0:29:050:29:08

-15 minutes.

-I have the right, under the writ, to investigate.

0:29:080:29:12

If you obstruct myself or my colleague, it is a criminal offence.

0:29:120:29:16

And there's no limit to the size of the debts they can pursue.

0:29:160:29:19

£14 million. It's the largest job I've ever done.

0:29:200:29:23

You can pay it directly into our account from Spain.

0:29:230:29:26

If they're successful,

0:29:260:29:27

they will recover your money and costs from the debtor...

0:29:270:29:30

-Thanks.

-Thank you.

-..as well as their own fees that are

0:29:300:29:33

set by the government.

0:29:330:29:35

It was that amount there until 5:30.

0:29:350:29:38

I don't stand here for three hours for nothing.

0:29:380:29:41

If the sheriffs can't get your money,

0:29:410:29:43

they'll ask you to pay a fee of £75 plus VAT.

0:29:430:29:47

Back in Nuneaton, the car in Leonard Lippitt's driveway has been clamped.

0:29:540:29:59

He claims the car's not his...

0:29:590:30:01

You're clamping somebody else's vehicle there, pal.

0:30:010:30:03

-..but the sheriffs aren't convinced.

-Yeah, we need to see proof of whose

0:30:030:30:06

-it is.

-And with tempers boiling over...

0:30:060:30:08

Walk off my property! Walk off my property now!

0:30:080:30:11

-And what are you going to do?

-..the police are on their way.

0:30:110:30:14

If you get any closer, sir, I'm going to use reasonable force...

0:30:140:30:16

-Are you? Go on, then!

-..to remove you from me.

-Go on, then! Do it!

0:30:160:30:19

We've got an aggressive male in one of our agent's faces.

0:30:190:30:22

I need police assistance urgently.

0:30:220:30:24

Go on! Go on, go on! Do it!

0:30:240:30:27

Mike's determined to enforce the writ and is entitled to remain on

0:30:270:30:30

-the driveway.

-I'm asking you to move now!

-I'm not going to move anywhere.

0:30:300:30:34

-You are.

-I'm not.

-You are, pal, you are.

-I'm not.

0:30:340:30:37

Are the police en route now? Perfect, OK.

0:30:370:30:39

With John on the phone to the police,

0:30:410:30:43

the man who Mr Lippitt says owns the vehicle turns up.

0:30:430:30:47

I've sold it to this guy. Now move!

0:30:470:30:49

We need to see proof, mate, all right?

0:30:490:30:51

We need to see the transfer of funds, please.

0:30:510:30:54

He hands Mike the vehicle registration document,

0:30:540:30:57

which names him as the registered keeper, but that doesn't necessarily

0:30:570:31:00

mean he's the owner.

0:31:000:31:02

-I'm sorry, a V5 doesn't prove ownership.

-What do you mean?

0:31:020:31:04

-The document's not...

-You can't take the truck, though, can you?

0:31:040:31:08

-We can.

-Mike explains to the man

0:31:080:31:09

that if the vehicle is removed today,

0:31:090:31:11

he can make what's known as a third-party claim, and if he can

0:31:110:31:14

prove ownership, he'll get it back.

0:31:140:31:16

But Mike isn't convinced he is the owner.

0:31:160:31:20

We can remove the truck if we've got reason to believe it's his.

0:31:200:31:22

-It's my truck!

-And you'll have seven days to get all the relevant

0:31:220:31:25

documentation into the office, OK, to prove that that vehicle is yours.

0:31:250:31:30

As things stand, the sheriffs are planning to remove the vehicle.

0:31:300:31:33

We've seen a typed-up invoice - invoice number one -

0:31:330:31:37

just saying that vehicle's been sold.

0:31:370:31:40

It's not good enough proof, and they're saying it's a cash sale.

0:31:400:31:42

Then let's see proof of those funds actually being transferred into

0:31:420:31:45

someone's bank account, then. If not, they can put all that

0:31:450:31:48

relevant proof to the courts and go down the full,

0:31:480:31:51

official third-party claim route.

0:31:510:31:53

If you're going to take his vehicle illegally,

0:31:530:31:55

we're going to call the police to say that you've nicked it.

0:31:550:31:57

-That's fine.

-All right?

-We've got a High Court writ.

-Right.

0:31:570:32:00

In fact, the police are already on their way.

0:32:000:32:02

There's an uneasy truce on the driveway,

0:32:040:32:07

but the call handler has asked John to stay on the line and keep them

0:32:070:32:11

-updated.

-In the house, there's the male, Leonard,

0:32:110:32:14

and then there's also another male in the property.

0:32:140:32:17

And then another three males have turned up in another vehicle.

0:32:170:32:20

Minutes later, the police arrive.

0:32:200:32:23

Thank you for your attendance as quick as you could.

0:32:230:32:25

-There's my identification.

-Yeah.

-How are you doing?

0:32:250:32:28

OK, there's my High Court writ, stamped, sealed and whatnot.

0:32:280:32:31

Mike gives the officers some background.

0:32:310:32:34

They've shown us an invoice, 001, that's been written out.

0:32:340:32:38

They haven't shown us a transfer of sale.

0:32:380:32:41

The vehicle is going to be going.

0:32:410:32:43

So, are you getting rid of that vehicle today, are you?

0:32:430:32:45

Yeah, unless they pay the bill.

0:32:450:32:47

The police go inside to talk to Mr Lippitt.

0:32:470:32:50

I'm hoping the police have calmed him down so we can have a decent

0:32:500:32:53

chat with the gentleman and give him the opportunity to pay the balance

0:32:530:32:58

before it goes any further.

0:32:580:33:01

The sheriffs have held off calling a removal vehicle, because that would

0:33:010:33:05

incur costs and increase the size of the debt.

0:33:050:33:08

With the police still in attendance,

0:33:080:33:10

Mike tries talking to Mr Lippitt one more time.

0:33:100:33:13

Mr Lippitt.

0:33:130:33:15

OK, you've got two options, OK?

0:33:150:33:17

You can either pay the balance at the moment...

0:33:180:33:21

If we can't get that, OK, then the vehicle will be going and

0:33:210:33:24

then you have seven days to put in the relevant third-party claim to

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prove ownership. OK, so, at the moment,

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the balance is £6,794.06.

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OK, can you pay that now?

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I can give you ten, 15 minutes to have a think about it.

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It quickly becomes clear Mr Lippitt is still refusing to pay the money he owes.

0:33:420:33:45

-We'll remove the...

-Right, I don't know why you're standing there, pal.

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-Go.

-We'll remove the vehicle, then, because you're refusing to pay. OK, that's fine.

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I tried to negotiate with the gentleman.

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He's being...not very forthcoming.

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He's not...not helping the situation and whatnot, so, yeah,

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we're just going to remove the vehicle.

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But there's a problem -

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snow has fallen across much of the Midlands,

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causing chaos on the roads and all their usual recovery firms are busy.

0:34:110:34:15

Hi there. Just wondering what your availability is for a recovery?

0:34:160:34:19

John's on the line to a recovery firm when events take a sudden turn.

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John, John. Hold the line.

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Mr Lippitt calls Mike over.

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I need £6,794, and then we'll stop the recovery.

0:34:280:34:31

He's on the phone to the recovery.

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I need to know in the next ten minutes.

0:34:330:34:35

I need to know in ten minutes.

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It seems Mr Lippitt has decided he may be prepared to pay after all.

0:34:370:34:41

John.

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Hold fire.

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He's offered to pay £5,500, but Mike wants payment in full.

0:34:450:34:50

-It hits home when they know it's happening.

-Yeah.

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Just then the sheriffs are called over a second time.

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This time Mr Lippitt says he's

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arranged to make payment in full, all £6,794.

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John gets the necessary paperwork from the van.

0:35:050:35:08

Yeah, it looks like we're in business.

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Just trying to get the bank details together.

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Eventually, after two visits from the sheriffs and a stand-off

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on Mr Lippitt's driveway...

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-'How much is he looking for?'

-£6,794.06.

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-..he finally clears the debt.

-'Yep, we've got that.'

0:35:240:35:27

-Thank you very much.

-The payment's confirmed,

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so out comes Mike's magic carpet.

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He's worried about getting dirty,

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and he thinks he's Aladdin, so this is his flying rug.

0:35:350:35:38

And off comes the clamp.

0:35:410:35:42

Ta-ta for now.

0:35:430:35:46

Thank you very much. See you later.

0:35:460:35:49

I love being abused.

0:35:520:35:54

Excellent. Flying the carpet.

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All in all, a good result, good job, happy claimant.

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The writ's there to be enforced and that's what got done.

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Move on to the next one.

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It's midday, and Rob and Gerald are in Streatham, South London,

0:36:310:36:35

heading for the Hamlet bar and restaurant

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in pursuit of an unpaid debt.

0:36:380:36:39

The claimant has given us some information.

0:36:390:36:43

He's told us the address that we're attending

0:36:430:36:46

is the trading address for the defendant.

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The claimant is a former employee who wasn't paid the

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wages he was due. He took his boss, Bukurie Ibro,

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to court, and a judgment was issued in his favour.

0:36:570:37:00

Miss Ibro was ordered to pay the money at a rate of £300

0:37:000:37:04

a month, but she didn't make the payments.

0:37:040:37:07

So the case was escalated to the High Court, and now the sheriffs are

0:37:070:37:11

on their way to track her down.

0:37:110:37:13

The amount owed today is £3,121.

0:37:130:37:17

Oh, there it is.

0:37:190:37:21

It doesn't open until 2pm, so...

0:37:210:37:24

The shutters are down and it looks like it's not due to open for a

0:37:240:37:26

couple of hours.

0:37:260:37:29

Right, there's no doorbell, no way in.

0:37:290:37:32

Because it's a commercial premises, the sheriffs could force entry,

0:37:320:37:36

but they have a contact number for Bukurie Ibro,

0:37:360:37:39

so Rob gives her a call.

0:37:390:37:40

Hi, it's Mr Foster from the Sheriffs Office, it is.

0:37:420:37:45

He starts to explain the reason for his call, then, suddenly,

0:37:450:37:48

-he loses the connection.

-Hello, can you hear me?

0:37:480:37:52

BLEEPING

0:37:520:37:55

-Oooh.

-Rob calls her back straightaway...

0:37:550:37:57

INTERNAL RINGTONE

0:37:570:38:01

..but this time there's no answer.

0:38:010:38:03

He suspects she's put the phone down on him,

0:38:040:38:07

so he leaves a message on her voicemail.

0:38:070:38:09

Miss Ibro, as soon as I identified who I was, you hung up the phone.

0:38:100:38:14

Just to advise, we are currently outside The Hamlet.

0:38:140:38:17

Ring me back to rectify this matter

0:38:170:38:19

or we will just go ahead and get a locksmith and force entry to your

0:38:190:38:22

restaurant and remove the goods inside, whether you are here or not.

0:38:220:38:26

Please give me a call back immediately. Thank you.

0:38:260:38:29

Gerald then tries to call from his phone, because she won't recognise

0:38:310:38:34

his number, but he can't get an answer either.

0:38:340:38:37

Despite this, they decide to give Miss Ibro time to turn up in person

0:38:390:38:43

-and clear the debt.

-If those shutters aren't open at 2pm,

0:38:430:38:47

then I think that's the point at which we'll call a locksmith and

0:38:470:38:49

just crack on, otherwise it could be a bit of a wasted journey.

0:38:490:38:53

INTERNAL RINGTONE

0:38:530:38:55

Gerald gives her one more chance to answer the phone.

0:38:550:38:58

This time, to his surprise, she does.

0:38:580:39:01

Hi, my name's Mr Anderson,

0:39:010:39:02

I'm an enforcement agent around at The Hamlet.

0:39:020:39:06

Are you on your way here now?

0:39:060:39:08

If you're not going to come here and sort this out,

0:39:080:39:11

I've got a writ of control that I will execute.

0:39:110:39:15

I'm hoping to sort this out with you before you open,

0:39:150:39:19

so if you could make your way here, we can get this resolved.

0:39:190:39:23

She tells Gerald she's an employee at the bar, and he needs to talk to

0:39:230:39:26

the owner of the company. But Gerald's done his homework and he

0:39:260:39:30

-knows different.

-You are the director of that company.

0:39:300:39:34

I have a writ against you personally.

0:39:340:39:38

Gerald wants the debtor to understand just how serious the

0:39:380:39:41

situation is.

0:39:410:39:43

I would suggest, if you are on a day off or not, I would come here,

0:39:430:39:47

because if the place doesn't open, I will open it.

0:39:470:39:50

I'm giving you the chance of coming here to sort this debt out.

0:39:500:39:54

If you do not come here, I will open up this place.

0:39:540:39:58

It's your choice. You've got a debt, you need to sort it.

0:39:580:40:01

Eventually, Bukurie Ibro says she'll be there in 15 minutes.

0:40:010:40:05

The sheriffs sit in their van,

0:40:050:40:07

parked a few yards up the road, and wait.

0:40:070:40:10

Yeah, at the moment, I'm sat here people-watching.

0:40:100:40:13

I'm actually trying to look and see if I can spot her before she arrives

0:40:130:40:17

-at the property.

-Right on cue, they see Bukurie Ibro opening up...

0:40:170:40:22

-Is that the one we're after, is it?

-Yeah.

-..and they leap into action.

0:40:220:40:26

Hello.

0:40:260:40:27

Rob gets to her just in time, and puts his foot in the door to prevent

0:40:280:40:32

-her locking them out.

-Hello.

0:40:320:40:35

I'm a High Court enforcement agent.

0:40:350:40:37

I'm a High Court enforcement agent, don't shut the door on me.

0:40:370:40:40

I don't understand, no.

0:40:400:40:41

My foot is staying in the door, it's not going anywhere.

0:40:410:40:43

She's on the phone to her solicitor.

0:40:430:40:45

Rob explains again the reason for their visit.

0:40:450:40:48

There's my identification.

0:40:480:40:51

We're here, we're here with a High Court writ.

0:40:510:40:53

She says she'll talk to the sheriffs but doesn't want to let the camera

0:40:530:40:56

-inside.

-I can come in and speak to you, he can stay out here if you

0:40:560:40:59

want, that's fine. Yeah. All right?

0:40:590:41:01

Yeah, he'll stay out here. He'll film from out here, then, all right?

0:41:010:41:05

Well, can you let me in, then, please?

0:41:050:41:07

Can you let me in, then, please? Thank you.

0:41:070:41:09

She lets Rob and Gerald in, and hands Rob the phone so he can speak

0:41:090:41:13

to her solicitor.

0:41:130:41:14

Rob explains to the solicitor that Bukurie Ibro had previously failed

0:41:160:41:20

to keep to a payment plan to clear the debt.

0:41:200:41:23

She had the arrangement through the court. She failed to maintain that

0:41:230:41:26

arrangement, and that was an arrangement that she was aware of.

0:41:260:41:29

He tells the solicitor the best option now is to clear

0:41:290:41:32

-the debt in full.

-As of today, the balance, if you pay it now

0:41:320:41:36

and agree to pay now, it's £3,120.73.

0:41:360:41:39

And that will be the end of it, gone, finished.

0:41:390:41:42

But that's as long as she agrees to pay it now.

0:41:420:41:44

If I've got to start walking around and listing assets, it goes up.

0:41:440:41:47

Rob hands the phone back to Miss Ibro, and shortly afterwards,

0:41:470:41:50

she agrees to clear the debt.

0:41:500:41:52

Gerald emerges with an update.

0:41:520:41:54

It's going to plan at the moment.

0:41:540:41:57

No real readies in my hand yet,

0:41:570:41:59

but she's trying to do half the

0:41:590:42:02

payment on the automated payment line,

0:42:020:42:05

and she's going to do the other half by card.

0:42:050:42:09

I'm just going to get my PDQ machine

0:42:090:42:12

and hopefully should be out of there within the next ten.

0:42:120:42:16

Gerald's prediction turns out to be correct.

0:42:180:42:21

Ten minutes later, the sheriffs have secured payment in full.

0:42:210:42:24

-Thanks now, bye-bye.

-Cheers, thank you. Take care, ta-ra.

0:42:240:42:28

A successful outcome on this one.

0:42:300:42:32

They weren't too happy with us at the beginning, as you saw with

0:42:320:42:35

the foot in the door, however they did eventually let us in.

0:42:350:42:38

We have now had settlement.

0:42:380:42:40

They made a fast BACS payment into our account,

0:42:400:42:42

settling the balance in full.

0:42:420:42:44

That's a total payment of £3,121,

0:42:440:42:49

which means the former employee will finally get his unpaid wages.

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