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-Meet the sheriffs. -My name's Mr Grix. | 0:00:02 | 0:00:03 | |
My colleague and I are enforcement agents. | 0:00:03 | 0:00:06 | |
We're here with a court order today. | 0:00:06 | 0:00:08 | |
They work for the High Court, and if a judge says you're owed money, | 0:00:08 | 0:00:10 | |
it's the sheriffs' job to go and get it. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:13 | |
-Hey, all the keys. -I'm going to be calling a locksmith. | 0:00:13 | 0:00:16 | |
-They can demand payment on the spot... -What can you pay us now? | 0:00:17 | 0:00:20 | |
-You're going to get the cash, are you? -Are you paying the bill? | 0:00:20 | 0:00:23 | |
-..or remove assets instead. -You've got 30 minutes to make the payment. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
We will start removing stuff from the building. | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
You'll have a week to pay in full before it gets sold at auction. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:31 | |
Obstructing their work can be a criminal offence. | 0:00:31 | 0:00:34 | |
-I wouldn't do that if I were you. -Don't lie to me. -No messing. | 0:00:34 | 0:00:37 | |
Every year, sheriffs in England and Wales recover unpaid debts | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
totalling more than £80 million. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:44 | |
Coming up, the Clark family paid | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
thousands of pounds to have an extension built on their home, | 0:00:50 | 0:00:54 | |
but the work was never completed. | 0:00:54 | 0:00:56 | |
We'd got dust everywhere, we'd got water coming through when it rained. | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
I felt like he was taking me for a bit of a fool, | 0:01:00 | 0:01:02 | |
and I didn't like that. | 0:01:02 | 0:01:04 | |
Now Tracy and Adam have tracked down the builder responsible, | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
and are out to make him pay. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:08 | |
He's going to be given 20 minutes to open that door and make a noise like | 0:01:08 | 0:01:12 | |
£3,917, otherwise I'll be removing this and it'll cost him more. | 0:01:12 | 0:01:17 | |
Rob puts his foot in the door to prevent a bar owner from locking him | 0:01:17 | 0:01:21 | |
-out. -I'm a High Court enforcement agent | 0:01:21 | 0:01:23 | |
Don't shut the door, all right? | 0:01:23 | 0:01:25 | |
My foot is staying in the door, it's not going anywhere. | 0:01:25 | 0:01:27 | |
-Walk off my property now! -And what are you going to do? | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
And when tempers run high over a clamped 4x4, | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
the sheriffs call for backup. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:35 | |
If you get any closer, sir, I'm going to use reasonable force... | 0:01:35 | 0:01:38 | |
-Are you? Go on, then! -..to remove you from me. -Go on, then, do it! | 0:01:38 | 0:01:40 | |
We've got an aggressive male in one of our agent's faces. | 0:01:40 | 0:01:43 | |
-I need police assistance urgently. -Go on! | 0:01:43 | 0:01:46 | |
It's a bitterly cold early start for High Court enforcement agents | 0:01:53 | 0:01:57 | |
-Adam Crossley and Tracy Lee. -Very icy this morning. | 0:01:57 | 0:02:00 | |
It was treacherous, coming down. | 0:02:00 | 0:02:02 | |
It's 7am, and Tracy and Adam are in Yorkshire, pursuing an unpaid debt. | 0:02:02 | 0:02:07 | |
It's a residential address we've got for an individual, | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
I do believe a builder. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
Hopefully, there's going to be | 0:02:11 | 0:02:14 | |
vehicles there, possibly vans etc, that can be used as leverage. | 0:02:14 | 0:02:19 | |
The builder in question is Mr Shaw. | 0:02:19 | 0:02:22 | |
He let down a young family when he abandoned the job, | 0:02:22 | 0:02:24 | |
despite being paid thousands of pounds. | 0:02:24 | 0:02:27 | |
Now the sheriffs are going to pay him a visit. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:30 | |
And this is the family he let down. | 0:02:32 | 0:02:35 | |
Richard and Laura Clark had wanted more room for their growing family, | 0:02:35 | 0:02:39 | |
and rather than move, they decided to add a dining room extension. | 0:02:39 | 0:02:44 | |
We got quite excited, we got some plans drawn together, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
and, you know, we decided to have a dining room built. | 0:02:47 | 0:02:51 | |
Among those invited to quote for the job was Mr Shaw. | 0:02:51 | 0:02:54 | |
Mr Shaw, a very nice chap, came | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
round, knew what he was talking about, | 0:02:56 | 0:02:58 | |
said that he could start within a timeframe that we were happy with. | 0:02:58 | 0:03:02 | |
We'd got several quotes in, | 0:03:02 | 0:03:04 | |
and his was roughly roundabout the same price, | 0:03:04 | 0:03:07 | |
so we decided to go with him. He was enthusiastic to take the job on. | 0:03:07 | 0:03:11 | |
The price was just over £15,000, for the building, plasterwork, | 0:03:13 | 0:03:17 | |
and electrics. It was a big decision for the Clark family. | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
This is an area that we want to stay in, | 0:03:21 | 0:03:23 | |
we want our children to grow up here, | 0:03:23 | 0:03:24 | |
so getting the house right at this stage, for us, was really important | 0:03:24 | 0:03:27 | |
and we were really excited about this extension. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
It was something that we'd thought about for a while, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
and now the first brick was being laid. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:34 | |
Richard paid half the money upfront, and two weeks later, | 0:03:36 | 0:03:39 | |
work got underway. | 0:03:39 | 0:03:41 | |
On the first day, I wanted to take a day off work so I could actually | 0:03:41 | 0:03:45 | |
watch the first bit be done. | 0:03:45 | 0:03:46 | |
Initially, everything seemed to be going to plan. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
It started off reasonably well. | 0:03:49 | 0:03:50 | |
The porch was gone within half a day | 0:03:50 | 0:03:53 | |
and the lads that Mr Shaw had got to do the labouring work | 0:03:53 | 0:03:57 | |
worked really hard. And we thought, you know, | 0:03:57 | 0:04:00 | |
"We've got a good team here that's all pulling in the same direction." | 0:04:00 | 0:04:04 | |
But when building inspectors visited the site, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
they weren't happy with the foundations, | 0:04:07 | 0:04:09 | |
and plans had to be changed. | 0:04:09 | 0:04:11 | |
I expected Mr Shaw to deal with this. | 0:04:11 | 0:04:14 | |
When we originally sorted the contract out, | 0:04:14 | 0:04:17 | |
Mr Shaw put dealing with building inspector, | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
and all the background work that needed to be done with that. | 0:04:21 | 0:04:24 | |
So I assumed that this was going to be done through Mr Shaw, | 0:04:24 | 0:04:27 | |
but it seemed to lay more on my shoulders. | 0:04:27 | 0:04:31 | |
The extra work meant the project was running over time | 0:04:31 | 0:04:34 | |
and thousands of pounds over budget. | 0:04:34 | 0:04:36 | |
It was also taking its toll on the Clark family | 0:04:36 | 0:04:39 | |
and Richard in particular. | 0:04:39 | 0:04:41 | |
I was having to leave work early to make sure that certain things had | 0:04:41 | 0:04:44 | |
been done. I was spending a lot of time on the phone, | 0:04:44 | 0:04:47 | |
trying to organise materials to come at a certain day, | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
at a certain time, to coincide with when the builders were here. | 0:04:50 | 0:04:54 | |
What was supposed to be a six-eight week project was badly delayed, | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
but eventually the work on the | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
foundations was finished and signed off. | 0:05:00 | 0:05:03 | |
Finally, after about a month, we started laying the first bricks, | 0:05:03 | 0:05:07 | |
so a lot of the problems, we thought, had ended, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:10 | |
and the bricks started to get laid, | 0:05:10 | 0:05:12 | |
and we started having an extension that was slowly being built. | 0:05:12 | 0:05:15 | |
But the project was beset by more problems, | 0:05:17 | 0:05:20 | |
and the delays were very frustrating. | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
Mr Shaw was starting to say that he was putting other jobs off to finish | 0:05:23 | 0:05:27 | |
this, so there was almost a little bit of pressure to, you know, | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
"Let's just keep going... | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
"do what we have to do, but, you know, anything that's going to be | 0:05:34 | 0:05:36 | |
"complicated, that's going to take a little bit more time..." | 0:05:36 | 0:05:40 | |
There wasn't really an appetite for that. | 0:05:40 | 0:05:42 | |
Eventually, with the basic structure in place, | 0:05:42 | 0:05:45 | |
it was time to secure it against the elements. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
Mr Shaw had got some guys in to come and do the roof | 0:05:48 | 0:05:51 | |
and they did a great job. | 0:05:51 | 0:05:54 | |
They were up there for probably two full days, | 0:05:54 | 0:05:56 | |
-and gave us a really nice roof. -But that was too good to last. | 0:05:56 | 0:06:00 | |
There was a fallout between Mr Shaw | 0:06:00 | 0:06:02 | |
and the guys who were doing the roof, so they never came back. | 0:06:02 | 0:06:07 | |
So that resulted in, probably, 90% of the roof being completed. | 0:06:07 | 0:06:11 | |
However, the bits that weren't completed, when it rained, | 0:06:11 | 0:06:15 | |
we started noticing water coming in. | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
By this time, the Clarks were due to go on a family holiday to France. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:21 | |
The timing couldn't have been worse. | 0:06:21 | 0:06:23 | |
There was still some outstanding work to be done, | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
the roof still needed to be fixed. | 0:06:26 | 0:06:28 | |
There was some construction work that still needed to be done. | 0:06:28 | 0:06:31 | |
Mr Shaw told them he'd finish the job while they were away, | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
so they put their faith in him, | 0:06:34 | 0:06:35 | |
paid him the balance and left him to it. | 0:06:35 | 0:06:38 | |
He put our mind to ease. He said, "Go off on your holiday. | 0:06:38 | 0:06:40 | |
"While you're away, I'll get the work done, | 0:06:40 | 0:06:43 | |
"I'll make sure that the roofers come back and finish the roofing." | 0:06:43 | 0:06:45 | |
You know, and he gave us his word that that would be done. | 0:06:45 | 0:06:48 | |
They returned with high hopes, but those hopes were quickly dashed. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:52 | |
We knew when we saw the skip that, you know, | 0:06:52 | 0:06:55 | |
we'd just pulled outside in the car...we saw the skip and | 0:06:55 | 0:06:58 | |
we just knew that they'd not been round to finish it off. | 0:06:58 | 0:07:01 | |
And that feeling that you get when you've just come back off holiday, | 0:07:01 | 0:07:05 | |
and you're really excited to see the | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
work and the finished article, and...yeah. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:12 | |
We walked round the back, and... | 0:07:12 | 0:07:14 | |
it was how it was left. | 0:07:14 | 0:07:17 | |
For Richard, it was the final straw. | 0:07:17 | 0:07:20 | |
At that point, I was very angry. | 0:07:20 | 0:07:23 | |
It was the middle of the morning, we'd had a long trip back, | 0:07:23 | 0:07:27 | |
and I tried to phone Mr Shaw and there was no answer. | 0:07:27 | 0:07:32 | |
So I sent him a text message and he failed to respond. | 0:07:32 | 0:07:35 | |
Mr Shaw did eventually call back, saying he'd broken his arm, | 0:07:35 | 0:07:39 | |
but as far as Richard was concerned, it was one excuse too many. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
He told me that he'd provide us with an extension that we'd be proud of, | 0:07:43 | 0:07:48 | |
and he failed to deliver. | 0:07:48 | 0:07:50 | |
The roof was still unfinished, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
as was some of the rendering and plasterwork. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
We'd got dust everywhere, we'd got water coming through when it rained. | 0:07:54 | 0:07:59 | |
At this point, Emma was, you know, she was five months old. | 0:07:59 | 0:08:03 | |
We work full-time, we had an unsecured property, | 0:08:03 | 0:08:07 | |
and it was not what we wanted when we came back off holiday. | 0:08:07 | 0:08:11 | |
Mr Shaw never completed the work, | 0:08:11 | 0:08:14 | |
so Richard had to find more money to pay someone else to finish the job. | 0:08:14 | 0:08:18 | |
This work needed to be done. | 0:08:18 | 0:08:20 | |
Every time it rained, I was at work, looking out of the window, thinking, | 0:08:20 | 0:08:23 | |
"Please, don't rain." We had nothing left. | 0:08:23 | 0:08:25 | |
So we relied on my wife's parents to lend us the money, | 0:08:25 | 0:08:29 | |
so we could get the remedial work done. | 0:08:29 | 0:08:32 | |
Richard then decided to take Mr Shaw to court, | 0:08:32 | 0:08:34 | |
to try and get back the extra money he'd paid out to complete the work. | 0:08:34 | 0:08:39 | |
I felt like he was almost taking me for a bit of a fool, | 0:08:39 | 0:08:41 | |
and I didn't like that, you know? | 0:08:41 | 0:08:43 | |
When you're doing building work on | 0:08:43 | 0:08:44 | |
somebody's house, it's...it's a major thing, you know? | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
You've got a lot of responsibility with that. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:49 | |
Mr Shaw failed to turn up at court, | 0:08:49 | 0:08:51 | |
and a County Court judgment was issued against him, | 0:08:51 | 0:08:54 | |
but he still didn't pay Richard the money for the remedial work, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:58 | |
so Richard escalated the case to the High Court | 0:08:58 | 0:09:00 | |
and called in the sheriffs. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:02 | |
Hopefully the sheriffs | 0:09:02 | 0:09:03 | |
will get a good conclusion from our perspective, | 0:09:03 | 0:09:06 | |
but also teach him that he can't just treat people like this. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
The amount owed today is £3,917. | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
Tracy and Adam are in Yorkshire, on their way to see Mr Shaw. | 0:09:19 | 0:09:23 | |
But it seems there may be a problem ahead. | 0:09:24 | 0:09:28 | |
The sheriffs have been notified that | 0:09:28 | 0:09:30 | |
Mr Shaw has moved out of his family home. | 0:09:30 | 0:09:32 | |
We're getting there early to see if we can catch him in, | 0:09:32 | 0:09:35 | |
cos the claimant believes he does live at the house. | 0:09:35 | 0:09:39 | |
If he does live there, the sheriffs | 0:09:39 | 0:09:41 | |
are hoping that any vehicles parked outside will give them | 0:09:41 | 0:09:44 | |
sufficient leverage to clear the debt. | 0:09:44 | 0:09:46 | |
If there's a van there, and we're looking to seize the van... | 0:09:46 | 0:09:51 | |
he's not going to want that to happen, is he? | 0:09:51 | 0:09:54 | |
-All right, we're somewhere here? -Yeah, to the left. | 0:09:54 | 0:09:57 | |
Yeah, there's a van outside, but... | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
it's, er, it's very old. | 0:10:00 | 0:10:03 | |
There's also a second car parked on the driveway. | 0:10:03 | 0:10:06 | |
But before clamping them, | 0:10:06 | 0:10:08 | |
Tracy wants to see if she can get a response from inside the property. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:12 | |
-You all right? -Yeah, just watch your footing. | 0:10:14 | 0:10:17 | |
SHE KNOCKS ON DOOR | 0:10:19 | 0:10:21 | |
At first, there's no answer... | 0:10:21 | 0:10:23 | |
SHE KNOCKS ON DOOR | 0:10:23 | 0:10:25 | |
..then someone comes to the door. | 0:10:25 | 0:10:28 | |
He won't open it, and he asks Tracy if she can come back later. | 0:10:28 | 0:10:32 | |
No. Is it Mr Shaw? Pardon? | 0:10:32 | 0:10:35 | |
I'm looking for a Mr Shaw. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
Sorry? | 0:10:38 | 0:10:40 | |
Can you open the door? | 0:10:40 | 0:10:43 | |
The man seems reluctant to open up, | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
but Tracy isn't going to give up that easily. | 0:10:45 | 0:10:48 | |
Well, I've got this address for a Mr Shaw. | 0:10:48 | 0:10:50 | |
It's Miss Lee speaking, from the Sheriffs Office, enforcement. | 0:10:50 | 0:10:53 | |
The man behind the door tells Tracy Mr Shaw doesn't live here. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:57 | |
He doesn't live here? | 0:10:57 | 0:10:59 | |
So the vehicles outside don't belong to him? | 0:10:59 | 0:11:01 | |
According to the man inside, they don't belong to Mr Shaw, | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
but because the sheriffs believe the vehicles are Mr Shaw's, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
they have the power to remove them. | 0:11:08 | 0:11:10 | |
If they're wrong, the onus will then be on the owner to prove the | 0:11:10 | 0:11:13 | |
vehicles are theirs. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
The van's been left unlocked, so Adam checks inside. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:19 | |
There's plenty of paperwork, but nothing to indicate who owns it. | 0:11:19 | 0:11:23 | |
Meanwhile, Tracy's getting nowhere | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
with the man who's apparently not Mr Shaw. | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
He's shot up back upstairs, he's not having it. | 0:11:27 | 0:11:30 | |
I think it's him, do you? | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
-Yeah. -Yeah, he wasn't prepared to open the door to speak to me. | 0:11:32 | 0:11:37 | |
He said his name's Mr Lowe. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:40 | |
Well, it's coincidental, isn't it? | 0:11:40 | 0:11:42 | |
-Should we just clamp that up? -Yeah. | 0:11:42 | 0:11:44 | |
Let me go and see if I can speak to the neighbours. | 0:11:44 | 0:11:47 | |
While Tracy goes to talk to other residents in the street, | 0:11:47 | 0:11:50 | |
Adam decides to clamp the builder's van. | 0:11:50 | 0:11:54 | |
There's no documentation, so I'm just going to clamp it, | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
to see if we can get this gentleman to... | 0:11:56 | 0:12:00 | |
show his identity to us. | 0:12:00 | 0:12:01 | |
Adam goes ahead and clamps the van... | 0:12:04 | 0:12:06 | |
..and then the second vehicle that's parked on the driveway. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:12 | |
He's hoping that, by clamping both vehicles, | 0:12:14 | 0:12:17 | |
he will persuade the man inside the property to open up and provide some | 0:12:17 | 0:12:21 | |
evidence that he is or isn't Mr Shaw. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
Neighbours have told Tracy Mr Shaw does live at the address, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:29 | |
and as far as they're aware, he hasn't moved out. | 0:12:29 | 0:12:32 | |
I've just spoken to the neighbour - | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
they've confirmed he lives here and that's his van. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
The two rules are, don't lie to me and don't ignore me. | 0:12:41 | 0:12:45 | |
He's broken one, he's ignoring me, | 0:12:45 | 0:12:47 | |
so he's getting off on the wrong foot. | 0:12:47 | 0:12:49 | |
So the car's been clamped. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
He's going to be given 20 minutes to open that door | 0:12:51 | 0:12:55 | |
and make a noise like... | 0:12:55 | 0:12:57 | |
£3,917, otherwise I'll be removing this and it'll cost him more. | 0:12:57 | 0:13:02 | |
With both vehicles clamped, | 0:13:03 | 0:13:05 | |
the man finally opens the front door and admits he is Mr Shaw. | 0:13:05 | 0:13:09 | |
He says he denied it earlier because he was startled by the early wake-up | 0:13:10 | 0:13:14 | |
-call. -Right, this is in relation to an outstanding debt on Mr Clark. | 0:13:14 | 0:13:19 | |
We're here today to get this paid in full. | 0:13:19 | 0:13:22 | |
£3,917. | 0:13:22 | 0:13:25 | |
He says he's been off work and has no money. | 0:13:25 | 0:13:28 | |
Right, Mr Shaw, I'm not accepting that. Do you want to just go inside? | 0:13:28 | 0:13:31 | |
I'll give you 20 minutes to see what you can get together, and come out, | 0:13:31 | 0:13:34 | |
before we take this any further. I'm giving you some time to... | 0:13:34 | 0:13:37 | |
Whose are these vehicles? | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
He says the van's his, but the car on the driveway belongs to his wife, | 0:13:39 | 0:13:42 | |
and in any case, it has a loan secured against it. | 0:13:42 | 0:13:45 | |
He's claiming that there's a loan on the vehicle that's on the drive, | 0:13:45 | 0:13:48 | |
so he's gone to go and get that documentation to prove that. | 0:13:48 | 0:13:51 | |
He still maintains there's absolutely no money available today, | 0:13:51 | 0:13:54 | |
and I'm looking to put forward an | 0:13:54 | 0:13:56 | |
offer of repayment via monthly instalments. | 0:13:56 | 0:14:00 | |
The sheriffs know the van won't fetch much at auction | 0:14:00 | 0:14:03 | |
and isn't worth removing. | 0:14:03 | 0:14:05 | |
With no other assets in sight, | 0:14:05 | 0:14:07 | |
a payment plan is looking like the best option for the sheriffs. | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
They decide to wait and see what sort of offer Mr Shaw comes up with. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
-Let him sweat a bit. -It's still freezing outside, but thankfully | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
Adam's dressed for the occasion. | 0:14:19 | 0:14:20 | |
Thermal underwear, thick-soled boots | 0:14:20 | 0:14:25 | |
and occasionally... | 0:14:25 | 0:14:28 | |
maybe two or three T-shirts under this shirt. | 0:14:28 | 0:14:31 | |
Then a jumper, then a fleece, and then a coat. | 0:14:31 | 0:14:35 | |
Tracy finds Adam's hat inside the van, and can't resist trying it on. | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
-What do you think? -Nice, isn't it? | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
-Suits you. -Does it suit me? -SHE LAUGHS | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
Mr Shaw reappears, with proof of the logbook loan against his | 0:14:48 | 0:14:52 | |
wife's car. He offers to pay the | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
money he owes at a rate of £200 a month. | 0:14:55 | 0:14:58 | |
Right, the only way we're going to accept that is if we enter the | 0:14:58 | 0:15:01 | |
property to do a controlled goods agreement. | 0:15:01 | 0:15:03 | |
That's to list your items to secure the debt. | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
Mr Shaw reluctantly agrees. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:07 | |
Tracy goes inside to list assets | 0:15:07 | 0:15:09 | |
and draw up a controlled goods agreement. | 0:15:09 | 0:15:11 | |
The items listed will technically become the property of | 0:15:11 | 0:15:15 | |
-the court until the debt's cleared. -Thanks, bye-bye. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:19 | |
-Bye-bye. -Tracy remerges with a payment plan in place, | 0:15:19 | 0:15:22 | |
but this has been a challenging enforcement for the sheriffs. | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
Yes, a difficult one, this. | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
I've done a controlled goods agreement, the van's gone on it, | 0:15:29 | 0:15:32 | |
bits and pieces from within, | 0:15:32 | 0:15:34 | |
and then the arrangement's been put forward for monthly payments. | 0:15:34 | 0:15:37 | |
Unfortunately, that's...that's the best that we can do today. | 0:15:37 | 0:15:40 | |
Richard Clark is relieved to finally be getting the money back | 0:15:43 | 0:15:46 | |
that he paid out to complete the building work. | 0:15:46 | 0:15:49 | |
I've heard from the sheriffs and it's good news. | 0:15:49 | 0:15:51 | |
£200 a month, apparently, with a controlled goods agreement. | 0:15:51 | 0:15:54 | |
I just hope he sticks to the agreement that he's made with the | 0:15:54 | 0:15:58 | |
sheriffs, and...you know, we can | 0:15:58 | 0:16:00 | |
move forward, and hopefully he'll learn a lesson. | 0:16:00 | 0:16:04 | |
Richard has since got another builder in to finish the extension, | 0:16:04 | 0:16:08 | |
and as far as he's concerned, it's all ended well. | 0:16:08 | 0:16:10 | |
I'm relieved to be stood in here now, not having damp coming through | 0:16:10 | 0:16:13 | |
the walls, not having leaks. | 0:16:13 | 0:16:15 | |
It's a nice extension, and it's what we wanted. | 0:16:15 | 0:16:18 | |
Using the County Courts to try | 0:16:25 | 0:16:27 | |
and recover money you're owed isn't difficult. | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
1.5 million money claims are paid every year in | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
England and Wales, | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
involving anything from faulty goods or poor workmanship, | 0:16:35 | 0:16:38 | |
to unpaid invoices. | 0:16:38 | 0:16:40 | |
Claims can be filed online, or by post for a small fee. | 0:16:40 | 0:16:44 | |
Both parties in the case will be asked to submit evidence, | 0:16:44 | 0:16:48 | |
and you may have to attend a court hearing. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
If you're successful, the County Court judgment, or CCJ, | 0:16:50 | 0:16:54 | |
will be issued against the debtor. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
If they still don't pay, that's when you call the sheriffs. | 0:16:56 | 0:17:00 | |
Today, High Court enforcement agents Mike Perkins and John Farley are | 0:17:05 | 0:17:09 | |
heading to Nuneaton in Warwickshire. | 0:17:09 | 0:17:11 | |
They're looking for a Mr Leonard Lippitt, | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
who has unpaid legal fees dating back more than a year. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:18 | |
Today won't be the first time Mr Lippitt's had a | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
visit from the sheriffs. | 0:17:20 | 0:17:22 | |
Tommy's already been on this case previously, | 0:17:22 | 0:17:24 | |
and he met with the defendant who | 0:17:24 | 0:17:27 | |
wasn't being very helpful at the time. | 0:17:27 | 0:17:29 | |
In fact, following that, Mr Lippitt | 0:17:29 | 0:17:31 | |
failed to pay back any of the money he owed. | 0:17:31 | 0:17:34 | |
Now, Mike and John are determined to finally sort it out. | 0:17:34 | 0:17:38 | |
Mike has a bad throat and is losing his voice, | 0:17:38 | 0:17:41 | |
but he's not going to let that stop him. | 0:17:41 | 0:17:43 | |
We all know what I'm like. | 0:17:43 | 0:17:44 | |
I don't like to mess about, I'm going to get the job done. | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
There is a vehicle that we're going to be looking for. | 0:17:47 | 0:17:50 | |
Tommy's done the relevant checks and whatnot. | 0:17:50 | 0:17:53 | |
The vehicle is free from finance, | 0:17:53 | 0:17:55 | |
so the sheriffs have got a simple plan. | 0:17:55 | 0:17:57 | |
They'll clamp Mr Lippitt's car | 0:17:57 | 0:17:59 | |
and use that as leverage to get the debt cleared. | 0:17:59 | 0:18:02 | |
The vehicle we're going to go and seize is a 4x4, | 0:18:02 | 0:18:06 | |
good condition, by all accounts, | 0:18:06 | 0:18:08 | |
and we'll immobilise it as soon as we get there, | 0:18:08 | 0:18:11 | |
and hopefully that'll prompt payment. | 0:18:11 | 0:18:13 | |
At least that's the theory. | 0:18:13 | 0:18:15 | |
The sheriffs know from experience | 0:18:15 | 0:18:17 | |
that enforcements don't always go to plan. | 0:18:17 | 0:18:19 | |
By the sounds of it, I think the guy... | 0:18:19 | 0:18:22 | |
may try and put up a bit of a fight. | 0:18:22 | 0:18:24 | |
Either way, if it's free from finance and he's not going to pay, | 0:18:24 | 0:18:27 | |
we'll just uplift it straightaway. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:29 | |
If the vehicle's not there, then we're going to struggle. | 0:18:29 | 0:18:32 | |
Fingers crossed it's going to be on the drive, | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
and we can execute the High Court writ. | 0:18:36 | 0:18:39 | |
The amount owed today is £6,794. | 0:18:39 | 0:18:43 | |
It's just down here, John. | 0:18:44 | 0:18:46 | |
-Hopefully it'll be on the drive, so... -It's silver, isn't it? -Yes. | 0:18:46 | 0:18:51 | |
The sheriffs edge their van slowly forward. | 0:18:51 | 0:18:54 | |
They want to see if there's a vehicle in Mr Lippitt's driveway | 0:18:54 | 0:18:57 | |
-without raising the alarm. -Go on, be here, please. | 0:18:57 | 0:19:01 | |
And it's here. Look at that. | 0:19:02 | 0:19:05 | |
That is what we wanted to see. | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
Mike's keen to get the vehicle clamped before anyone realises | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
-they're there. -Let's crack on. Where's your padlocks, mate? | 0:19:12 | 0:19:15 | |
In the back. | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
Once the vehicle is immobilised, | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
the sheriffs will have the leverage they need to get the debt cleared. | 0:19:19 | 0:19:23 | |
In a sense, we're holding all the aces...at the moment. | 0:19:23 | 0:19:26 | |
I've got my Aladdin's rug today, so that'll keep me...keep me dry. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
With Mike busy securing the clamp, Mr Lippitt appears at the door. | 0:19:35 | 0:19:40 | |
-John Farley, from High Court enforcement. -Yeah? | 0:19:40 | 0:19:42 | |
Looking for a Leonard Lippitt? | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
You're clamping somebody else's vehicle there, pal. | 0:19:44 | 0:19:47 | |
Mr Lippitt tells the sheriffs that the car parked on his driveway | 0:19:47 | 0:19:50 | |
doesn't belong to him, and he's off to find proof. | 0:19:50 | 0:19:53 | |
-We'd need to see proof of sale as well, John. -Yeah. | 0:19:53 | 0:19:58 | |
So, would you like to remove that now, please? | 0:19:58 | 0:20:00 | |
-Let's have a look. -All right. | 0:20:00 | 0:20:02 | |
-What's this? -"You are no longer the registered keeper of the vehicle." | 0:20:02 | 0:20:05 | |
That's not proof of ownership. | 0:20:05 | 0:20:06 | |
There's the receipt...from the guy that bought it. | 0:20:06 | 0:20:10 | |
-Let's have a look. -But the sheriffs don't think the receipt looks very | 0:20:10 | 0:20:14 | |
convincing. They want to see proof that the vehicle really has been | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
sold, and that the money has gone into his account. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:20 | |
-All right, all you need to do... -You need to remove that vehicle... | 0:20:20 | 0:20:23 | |
-No. Sir... -..or you're going to lose a clamp, pal, all right? | 0:20:23 | 0:20:27 | |
-Am I? -Yes, you are. -Mike doesn't take kindly to the threat to damage | 0:20:27 | 0:20:30 | |
or remove his clamp, | 0:20:30 | 0:20:32 | |
and says he intends to go ahead and get the vehicle removed. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:36 | |
John, do us a favour, bring a recovery truck. | 0:20:36 | 0:20:38 | |
-Sir... -You need to check your details out! | 0:20:38 | 0:20:41 | |
You need to calm yourself down. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:42 | |
-I don't need to calm myself down at all! -Yes, you do. -OK, and what... | 0:20:42 | 0:20:46 | |
Mr Lippitt tells Mike the owner of the vehicle is on his way round. | 0:20:46 | 0:20:50 | |
-I need to see transfer of funds. -You don't need to see nothing! | 0:20:50 | 0:20:53 | |
-Yes, I do. -Pal, you are nothing! You're just civil, pal, so you take | 0:20:53 | 0:20:58 | |
that away from that vehicle, | 0:20:58 | 0:21:01 | |
and this guy will tell you the owner of it, and you'll remove it! | 0:21:01 | 0:21:04 | |
Mr Lippitt suddenly decides he doesn't want filming on his | 0:21:04 | 0:21:07 | |
-driveway. -Goodbye. Move your camera. -If I don't see... | 0:21:07 | 0:21:11 | |
If I don't see the relevant documentation... | 0:21:11 | 0:21:13 | |
Move the camera off my property, now! Get off that property, now! | 0:21:13 | 0:21:16 | |
We retreat to the public highway, but carry on filming. | 0:21:16 | 0:21:20 | |
The sheriffs are enforcing a High Court writ, | 0:21:20 | 0:21:22 | |
-and are entitled to stay put. -Now, off my property! | 0:21:22 | 0:21:25 | |
-No. -Now! Now! -No. -I'm telling you, walk off my property... | 0:21:25 | 0:21:28 | |
-Do me a favour, stay put... -Walk off my property! | 0:21:28 | 0:21:30 | |
-Walk off my property now! -And what are you going to do? | 0:21:30 | 0:21:33 | |
I'm telling you to get off, pal! I'm telling you to get off, pal! | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
Tempers are running high, | 0:21:37 | 0:21:38 | |
and Mike's worried things are about to boil over. | 0:21:38 | 0:21:41 | |
-Ring the police. -Move off my property now! | 0:21:41 | 0:21:44 | |
-Ring the police. -Get the -BLEEP -police! Move off my property now! | 0:21:44 | 0:21:47 | |
-Police, please. -If you get any closer, sir, | 0:21:47 | 0:21:49 | |
I'm going to use reasonable force... | 0:21:49 | 0:21:50 | |
-Are you? Go on, then. -..to remove you from me. -Go on, then! Do it! | 0:21:50 | 0:21:53 | |
We've got an aggressive male in one of our agent's faces. I need | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
-police assistance urgently. -Go on! Go on! Do it! | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
Later, with the police on their way, the vehicle immobilised and the | 0:22:01 | 0:22:05 | |
sheriffs standing their ground, a man turns up | 0:22:05 | 0:22:08 | |
claiming he owns the vehicle parked in Mr Lippitt's driveway. | 0:22:08 | 0:22:12 | |
-You can't take the truck though, can you? -We can. -There's nothing to say | 0:22:12 | 0:22:15 | |
that truck belongs to him. That truck belongs to me. | 0:22:15 | 0:22:17 | |
We can remove the truck if we've got reason to believe it's his. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:20 | |
It's my truck! | 0:22:20 | 0:22:21 | |
Today, High Court enforcement agents, | 0:22:34 | 0:22:36 | |
Rob Foster and Gerald Anderson, | 0:22:36 | 0:22:38 | |
are in central London, taking in the sights. | 0:22:38 | 0:22:41 | |
There's Big Ben there on the right. | 0:22:41 | 0:22:43 | |
Or Quiet Ben, as he's now known. | 0:22:43 | 0:22:45 | |
It's an icon. It's known throughout the world. | 0:22:45 | 0:22:47 | |
The sheriffs are looking for a company called | 0:22:47 | 0:22:50 | |
Matrix Office Furniture Limited. | 0:22:50 | 0:22:52 | |
A former employee claimed Matrix dismissed her without notice or | 0:22:52 | 0:22:55 | |
holiday pay. She took a case to an employment tribunal, and an award | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
was made in her favour. | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
The total amount owed today is £4,546. | 0:23:02 | 0:23:07 | |
We have had a telephone call from the director, who has stated | 0:23:07 | 0:23:11 | |
he can't pay this debt off in full. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:13 | |
He'd like a long-term arrangement. | 0:23:13 | 0:23:15 | |
But the sheriffs aren't interested in a long-term arrangement. | 0:23:15 | 0:23:19 | |
They want a much shorter term arrangement - | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
immediate payment in full. | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
Gerald has been doing his homework, and has found out some interesting | 0:23:23 | 0:23:26 | |
facts about Matrix Office Furniture. | 0:23:26 | 0:23:29 | |
I've done a little bit of background on the company. | 0:23:29 | 0:23:31 | |
I can see that the company has changed names on several occasions, | 0:23:31 | 0:23:35 | |
back and forth, to different company names. | 0:23:35 | 0:23:37 | |
Matrix Office Furniture is the name on the High Court writ, and is | 0:23:37 | 0:23:41 | |
liable for the debt. | 0:23:41 | 0:23:43 | |
But the director, in his call to the Sheriffs Office, claimed it no | 0:23:43 | 0:23:47 | |
longer exists, and a new company has taken its place. | 0:23:47 | 0:23:50 | |
If that's the case, the sheriffs may not be able to remove assets. | 0:23:50 | 0:23:55 | |
At least the sign above the door looks hopeful. | 0:23:55 | 0:23:58 | |
Hello. Is this Matrix? | 0:23:58 | 0:24:01 | |
Gerald asks for the director, a Mr Simon Lo Gatto. | 0:24:01 | 0:24:05 | |
-Hello, Simon. -Hi. -My name's Mr Anderson. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:08 | |
Mr Lo Gatto doesn't look particularly pleased to see the | 0:24:10 | 0:24:12 | |
sheriffs, and even less pleased to see our camera. | 0:24:12 | 0:24:15 | |
We leave the shop and continue to film from the street. | 0:24:18 | 0:24:21 | |
How are we going to sort this, then? | 0:24:21 | 0:24:23 | |
Mr Lo Gatto tells the sheriffs he can't clear the debt, and the assets | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
in the shop belong to a different company - | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
Trinity Office Furniture Limited. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
Luckily, Rob and Gerald have already checked his story out. | 0:24:31 | 0:24:34 | |
-It doesn't exist. -We've been on Companies House. | 0:24:34 | 0:24:36 | |
There's no sign of that company at all. | 0:24:36 | 0:24:38 | |
Mr Lo Gatto has an explanation. | 0:24:38 | 0:24:40 | |
Apparently, Trinity has also changed its name and is now called | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
Matrix Office Interiors Limited. All very confusing. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:48 | |
Essentially, all we're interested in is payment in full or removal of | 0:24:48 | 0:24:51 | |
-goods. -Mr Lo Gatto says they can't remove the goods because they don't | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
belong to Matrix Office Furniture. | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
Apparently, ownership has been transferred to the new company. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:00 | |
Give your accountant a ring. See if you can get the paperwork through on | 0:25:00 | 0:25:03 | |
proof of transfer. For a limited company, it'll be your accountant, | 0:25:03 | 0:25:05 | |
-won't it? -But Mr Lo Gatto doesn't produce the necessary paperwork, | 0:25:05 | 0:25:09 | |
and Rob's starting to lose patience. | 0:25:09 | 0:25:11 | |
At the moment, your balance is £4,546. | 0:25:11 | 0:25:14 | |
I'll give you one last chance to pay it now, or we'll go to the next | 0:25:14 | 0:25:18 | |
stage and start listing goods. It'll go to 5,140. | 0:25:18 | 0:25:21 | |
You'll then have a further couple of minutes once we've finished that | 0:25:21 | 0:25:24 | |
paperwork. If you don't, it'll go up to over £6,000. | 0:25:24 | 0:25:26 | |
Rob and Gerald believe Matrix Office Furniture is trading here. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:30 | |
They're entitled to carry out a diligent search of the premises in | 0:25:30 | 0:25:34 | |
order to find assets or establish who owns them. | 0:25:34 | 0:25:37 | |
Rob decides to start with Mr Lo Gatto's office. | 0:25:37 | 0:25:41 | |
Now, I'm going to go through paperwork and I'm going to see what | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
information you've got here relating to this company. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:47 | |
But Mr Lo Gatto doesn't seem happy with the development. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:50 | |
As per a High Court writ, I'm entitled to search the office, | 0:25:50 | 0:25:52 | |
-all right? -Mr Lo Gatto wants Rob to leave his office. | 0:25:52 | 0:25:56 | |
Rob tells him that obstructing a sheriff in the course of his duty is | 0:25:56 | 0:25:59 | |
a criminal offence. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:01 | |
What has happened is Rob's gone into the office and started rooting | 0:26:01 | 0:26:04 | |
around through the paperwork. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:06 | |
The director of the defending company has got certainly annoyed | 0:26:06 | 0:26:09 | |
with this. He's got into Rob's personal space. | 0:26:09 | 0:26:12 | |
Rob has told him that if he does not pay, he will escalate this. | 0:26:12 | 0:26:15 | |
Back in the showroom, | 0:26:15 | 0:26:17 | |
Rob and Gerald notice some boxes stacked up right by the open door. | 0:26:17 | 0:26:22 | |
They walk over to investigate. | 0:26:22 | 0:26:24 | |
-"Matrix Office Furniture." -Yeah. -"Matrix Office Furniture Limited." | 0:26:24 | 0:26:28 | |
-Yeah. "Client, Matrix Office Furniture." -It's vital evidence. | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
-Invoices here. "Delivery address, Matrix Office Furniture." -Yeah. | 0:26:32 | 0:26:36 | |
These packages have only recently been delivered, and they're | 0:26:36 | 0:26:40 | |
addressed to Matrix Office Furniture Limited - | 0:26:40 | 0:26:43 | |
the company on the writ. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:45 | |
So we've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, | 0:26:45 | 0:26:49 | |
about ten boxes here, all addressed to... | 0:26:49 | 0:26:52 | |
Matrix Office Furniture Limited. | 0:26:54 | 0:26:56 | |
That tells us that the company is still trading. | 0:26:56 | 0:27:00 | |
Mr Lo Gatto says he's trying to | 0:27:01 | 0:27:02 | |
raise funds to clear the debt, but needs more time. He also claims | 0:27:02 | 0:27:06 | |
these goods have already been bought and paid for by clients, so can't be | 0:27:06 | 0:27:11 | |
removed by the sheriffs. | 0:27:11 | 0:27:13 | |
Rob doesn't agree. | 0:27:13 | 0:27:14 | |
It's got your company name on it, delivered to this address. | 0:27:14 | 0:27:17 | |
You said these have been sold to whoever they sell... | 0:27:17 | 0:27:19 | |
-Show us the invoice. -The sheriffs have now escalated the enforcement | 0:27:19 | 0:27:23 | |
to stage two, and are starting to list assets for removal. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:27 | |
One, two, three, four, five, six, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:30 | |
seven, eight, nine, ten. | 0:27:30 | 0:27:32 | |
What do you call them? Counters, desks? | 0:27:32 | 0:27:34 | |
-Office tables. -Yeah. | 0:27:34 | 0:27:37 | |
Gerald comes outside to give us another update. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:39 | |
Rob has escalated it to enforcement stage two. | 0:27:39 | 0:27:42 | |
He's still denying things belong to him, but he is in the process now of | 0:27:42 | 0:27:47 | |
speaking to accountants, friends, | 0:27:47 | 0:27:49 | |
family etc, to raise funds so he | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
can make payment in full of this debt. | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
Finally, Mr Lo Gatto announces he | 0:27:54 | 0:27:57 | |
can clear the debt - a total of £5,140. | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
That includes the extra costs incurred during today's enforcement. | 0:28:01 | 0:28:05 | |
Hello. I just want to find out if a payment has entered our account. | 0:28:05 | 0:28:10 | |
Lovely, perfect. Yeah, brilliant. Thank you very much. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:13 | |
-OK, sir. -Cheers, bye-bye. -Bye-bye. Thank you. | 0:28:13 | 0:28:16 | |
Payment confirmed, the sheriffs leave. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:19 | |
All in all, a great result. Absolutely chuffed. We've sent him a | 0:28:19 | 0:28:22 | |
payment link and he's paid it in full. | 0:28:22 | 0:28:25 | |
Reluctantly, but he has settled the balance in full. | 0:28:25 | 0:28:29 | |
The former Matrix Office Furniture employee, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:32 | |
who was dismissed without notice will now get the money she's owed. | 0:28:32 | 0:28:35 | |
If you've won a County Court judgment and haven't been paid, | 0:28:45 | 0:28:48 | |
for £66 you can get the case transferred up to the High Court, | 0:28:48 | 0:28:53 | |
which will issue a writ for enforcement by the sheriffs. | 0:28:53 | 0:28:56 | |
-Hello. -I'm an enforcement agent enforcing a High Court writ. | 0:28:56 | 0:29:00 | |
I'm here just to execute the court order. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:02 | |
They've got more powers than County Court bailiffs. | 0:29:02 | 0:29:05 | |
We're going to force entry into the shop in about the next ten, | 0:29:05 | 0:29:08 | |
-15 minutes. -I have the right, under the writ, to investigate. | 0:29:08 | 0:29:12 | |
If you obstruct myself or my colleague, it is a criminal offence. | 0:29:12 | 0:29:16 | |
And there's no limit to the size of the debts they can pursue. | 0:29:16 | 0:29:19 | |
£14 million. It's the largest job I've ever done. | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
You can pay it directly into our account from Spain. | 0:29:23 | 0:29:26 | |
If they're successful, | 0:29:26 | 0:29:27 | |
they will recover your money and costs from the debtor... | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
-Thanks. -Thank you. -..as well as their own fees that are | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
set by the government. | 0:29:33 | 0:29:35 | |
It was that amount there until 5:30. | 0:29:35 | 0:29:38 | |
I don't stand here for three hours for nothing. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
If the sheriffs can't get your money, | 0:29:41 | 0:29:43 | |
they'll ask you to pay a fee of £75 plus VAT. | 0:29:43 | 0:29:47 | |
Back in Nuneaton, the car in Leonard Lippitt's driveway has been clamped. | 0:29:54 | 0:29:59 | |
He claims the car's not his... | 0:29:59 | 0:30:01 | |
You're clamping somebody else's vehicle there, pal. | 0:30:01 | 0:30:03 | |
-..but the sheriffs aren't convinced. -Yeah, we need to see proof of whose | 0:30:03 | 0:30:06 | |
-it is. -And with tempers boiling over... | 0:30:06 | 0:30:08 | |
Walk off my property! Walk off my property now! | 0:30:08 | 0:30:11 | |
-And what are you going to do? -..the police are on their way. | 0:30:11 | 0:30:14 | |
If you get any closer, sir, I'm going to use reasonable force... | 0:30:14 | 0:30:16 | |
-Are you? Go on, then! -..to remove you from me. -Go on, then! Do it! | 0:30:16 | 0:30:19 | |
We've got an aggressive male in one of our agent's faces. | 0:30:19 | 0:30:22 | |
I need police assistance urgently. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:24 | |
Go on! Go on, go on! Do it! | 0:30:24 | 0:30:27 | |
Mike's determined to enforce the writ and is entitled to remain on | 0:30:27 | 0:30:30 | |
-the driveway. -I'm asking you to move now! -I'm not going to move anywhere. | 0:30:30 | 0:30:34 | |
-You are. -I'm not. -You are, pal, you are. -I'm not. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:37 | |
Are the police en route now? Perfect, OK. | 0:30:37 | 0:30:39 | |
With John on the phone to the police, | 0:30:41 | 0:30:43 | |
the man who Mr Lippitt says owns the vehicle turns up. | 0:30:43 | 0:30:47 | |
I've sold it to this guy. Now move! | 0:30:47 | 0:30:49 | |
We need to see proof, mate, all right? | 0:30:49 | 0:30:51 | |
We need to see the transfer of funds, please. | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
He hands Mike the vehicle registration document, | 0:30:54 | 0:30:57 | |
which names him as the registered keeper, but that doesn't necessarily | 0:30:57 | 0:31:00 | |
mean he's the owner. | 0:31:00 | 0:31:02 | |
-I'm sorry, a V5 doesn't prove ownership. -What do you mean? | 0:31:02 | 0:31:04 | |
-The document's not... -You can't take the truck, though, can you? | 0:31:04 | 0:31:08 | |
-We can. -Mike explains to the man | 0:31:08 | 0:31:09 | |
that if the vehicle is removed today, | 0:31:09 | 0:31:11 | |
he can make what's known as a third-party claim, and if he can | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
prove ownership, he'll get it back. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
But Mike isn't convinced he is the owner. | 0:31:16 | 0:31:20 | |
We can remove the truck if we've got reason to believe it's his. | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
-It's my truck! -And you'll have seven days to get all the relevant | 0:31:22 | 0:31:25 | |
documentation into the office, OK, to prove that that vehicle is yours. | 0:31:25 | 0:31:30 | |
As things stand, the sheriffs are planning to remove the vehicle. | 0:31:30 | 0:31:33 | |
We've seen a typed-up invoice - invoice number one - | 0:31:33 | 0:31:37 | |
just saying that vehicle's been sold. | 0:31:37 | 0:31:40 | |
It's not good enough proof, and they're saying it's a cash sale. | 0:31:40 | 0:31:42 | |
Then let's see proof of those funds actually being transferred into | 0:31:42 | 0:31:45 | |
someone's bank account, then. If not, they can put all that | 0:31:45 | 0:31:48 | |
relevant proof to the courts and go down the full, | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
official third-party claim route. | 0:31:51 | 0:31:53 | |
If you're going to take his vehicle illegally, | 0:31:53 | 0:31:55 | |
we're going to call the police to say that you've nicked it. | 0:31:55 | 0:31:57 | |
-That's fine. -All right? -We've got a High Court writ. -Right. | 0:31:57 | 0:32:00 | |
In fact, the police are already on their way. | 0:32:00 | 0:32:02 | |
There's an uneasy truce on the driveway, | 0:32:04 | 0:32:07 | |
but the call handler has asked John to stay on the line and keep them | 0:32:07 | 0:32:11 | |
-updated. -In the house, there's the male, Leonard, | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
and then there's also another male in the property. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
And then another three males have turned up in another vehicle. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:20 | |
Minutes later, the police arrive. | 0:32:20 | 0:32:23 | |
Thank you for your attendance as quick as you could. | 0:32:23 | 0:32:25 | |
-There's my identification. -Yeah. -How are you doing? | 0:32:25 | 0:32:28 | |
OK, there's my High Court writ, stamped, sealed and whatnot. | 0:32:28 | 0:32:31 | |
Mike gives the officers some background. | 0:32:31 | 0:32:34 | |
They've shown us an invoice, 001, that's been written out. | 0:32:34 | 0:32:38 | |
They haven't shown us a transfer of sale. | 0:32:38 | 0:32:41 | |
The vehicle is going to be going. | 0:32:41 | 0:32:43 | |
So, are you getting rid of that vehicle today, are you? | 0:32:43 | 0:32:45 | |
Yeah, unless they pay the bill. | 0:32:45 | 0:32:47 | |
The police go inside to talk to Mr Lippitt. | 0:32:47 | 0:32:50 | |
I'm hoping the police have calmed him down so we can have a decent | 0:32:50 | 0:32:53 | |
chat with the gentleman and give him the opportunity to pay the balance | 0:32:53 | 0:32:58 | |
before it goes any further. | 0:32:58 | 0:33:01 | |
The sheriffs have held off calling a removal vehicle, because that would | 0:33:01 | 0:33:05 | |
incur costs and increase the size of the debt. | 0:33:05 | 0:33:08 | |
With the police still in attendance, | 0:33:08 | 0:33:10 | |
Mike tries talking to Mr Lippitt one more time. | 0:33:10 | 0:33:13 | |
Mr Lippitt. | 0:33:13 | 0:33:15 | |
OK, you've got two options, OK? | 0:33:15 | 0:33:17 | |
You can either pay the balance at the moment... | 0:33:18 | 0:33:21 | |
If we can't get that, OK, then the vehicle will be going and | 0:33:21 | 0:33:24 | |
then you have seven days to put in the relevant third-party claim to | 0:33:24 | 0:33:28 | |
prove ownership. OK, so, at the moment, | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
the balance is £6,794.06. | 0:33:32 | 0:33:37 | |
OK, can you pay that now? | 0:33:37 | 0:33:39 | |
I can give you ten, 15 minutes to have a think about it. | 0:33:39 | 0:33:42 | |
It quickly becomes clear Mr Lippitt is still refusing to pay the money he owes. | 0:33:42 | 0:33:45 | |
-We'll remove the... -Right, I don't know why you're standing there, pal. | 0:33:45 | 0:33:48 | |
-Go. -We'll remove the vehicle, then, because you're refusing to pay. OK, that's fine. | 0:33:48 | 0:33:53 | |
I tried to negotiate with the gentleman. | 0:33:54 | 0:33:57 | |
He's being...not very forthcoming. | 0:33:57 | 0:33:59 | |
He's not...not helping the situation and whatnot, so, yeah, | 0:33:59 | 0:34:03 | |
we're just going to remove the vehicle. | 0:34:03 | 0:34:06 | |
But there's a problem - | 0:34:06 | 0:34:08 | |
snow has fallen across much of the Midlands, | 0:34:08 | 0:34:11 | |
causing chaos on the roads and all their usual recovery firms are busy. | 0:34:11 | 0:34:15 | |
Hi there. Just wondering what your availability is for a recovery? | 0:34:16 | 0:34:19 | |
John's on the line to a recovery firm when events take a sudden turn. | 0:34:19 | 0:34:23 | |
John, John. Hold the line. | 0:34:23 | 0:34:25 | |
Mr Lippitt calls Mike over. | 0:34:25 | 0:34:28 | |
I need £6,794, and then we'll stop the recovery. | 0:34:28 | 0:34:31 | |
He's on the phone to the recovery. | 0:34:31 | 0:34:33 | |
I need to know in the next ten minutes. | 0:34:33 | 0:34:35 | |
I need to know in ten minutes. | 0:34:35 | 0:34:37 | |
It seems Mr Lippitt has decided he may be prepared to pay after all. | 0:34:37 | 0:34:41 | |
John. | 0:34:41 | 0:34:43 | |
Hold fire. | 0:34:43 | 0:34:45 | |
He's offered to pay £5,500, but Mike wants payment in full. | 0:34:45 | 0:34:50 | |
-It hits home when they know it's happening. -Yeah. | 0:34:50 | 0:34:53 | |
Just then the sheriffs are called over a second time. | 0:34:53 | 0:34:58 | |
This time Mr Lippitt says he's | 0:34:58 | 0:35:01 | |
arranged to make payment in full, all £6,794. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:05 | |
John gets the necessary paperwork from the van. | 0:35:05 | 0:35:08 | |
Yeah, it looks like we're in business. | 0:35:08 | 0:35:10 | |
Just trying to get the bank details together. | 0:35:10 | 0:35:13 | |
Eventually, after two visits from the sheriffs and a stand-off | 0:35:13 | 0:35:16 | |
on Mr Lippitt's driveway... | 0:35:16 | 0:35:19 | |
-'How much is he looking for?' -£6,794.06. | 0:35:19 | 0:35:24 | |
-..he finally clears the debt. -'Yep, we've got that.' | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
-Thank you very much. -The payment's confirmed, | 0:35:27 | 0:35:30 | |
so out comes Mike's magic carpet. | 0:35:30 | 0:35:33 | |
He's worried about getting dirty, | 0:35:33 | 0:35:35 | |
and he thinks he's Aladdin, so this is his flying rug. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:38 | |
And off comes the clamp. | 0:35:41 | 0:35:42 | |
Ta-ta for now. | 0:35:43 | 0:35:46 | |
Thank you very much. See you later. | 0:35:46 | 0:35:49 | |
I love being abused. | 0:35:52 | 0:35:54 | |
Excellent. Flying the carpet. | 0:35:56 | 0:35:58 | |
All in all, a good result, good job, happy claimant. | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
The writ's there to be enforced and that's what got done. | 0:36:09 | 0:36:13 | |
Move on to the next one. | 0:36:13 | 0:36:14 | |
It's midday, and Rob and Gerald are in Streatham, South London, | 0:36:31 | 0:36:35 | |
heading for the Hamlet bar and restaurant | 0:36:35 | 0:36:38 | |
in pursuit of an unpaid debt. | 0:36:38 | 0:36:39 | |
The claimant has given us some information. | 0:36:39 | 0:36:43 | |
He's told us the address that we're attending | 0:36:43 | 0:36:46 | |
is the trading address for the defendant. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:49 | |
The claimant is a former employee who wasn't paid the | 0:36:49 | 0:36:53 | |
wages he was due. He took his boss, Bukurie Ibro, | 0:36:53 | 0:36:57 | |
to court, and a judgment was issued in his favour. | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
Miss Ibro was ordered to pay the money at a rate of £300 | 0:37:00 | 0:37:04 | |
a month, but she didn't make the payments. | 0:37:04 | 0:37:07 | |
So the case was escalated to the High Court, and now the sheriffs are | 0:37:07 | 0:37:11 | |
on their way to track her down. | 0:37:11 | 0:37:13 | |
The amount owed today is £3,121. | 0:37:13 | 0:37:17 | |
Oh, there it is. | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
It doesn't open until 2pm, so... | 0:37:21 | 0:37:24 | |
The shutters are down and it looks like it's not due to open for a | 0:37:24 | 0:37:26 | |
couple of hours. | 0:37:26 | 0:37:29 | |
Right, there's no doorbell, no way in. | 0:37:29 | 0:37:32 | |
Because it's a commercial premises, the sheriffs could force entry, | 0:37:32 | 0:37:36 | |
but they have a contact number for Bukurie Ibro, | 0:37:36 | 0:37:39 | |
so Rob gives her a call. | 0:37:39 | 0:37:40 | |
Hi, it's Mr Foster from the Sheriffs Office, it is. | 0:37:42 | 0:37:45 | |
He starts to explain the reason for his call, then, suddenly, | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
-he loses the connection. -Hello, can you hear me? | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
BLEEPING | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
-Oooh. -Rob calls her back straightaway... | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
INTERNAL RINGTONE | 0:37:57 | 0:38:01 | |
..but this time there's no answer. | 0:38:01 | 0:38:03 | |
He suspects she's put the phone down on him, | 0:38:04 | 0:38:07 | |
so he leaves a message on her voicemail. | 0:38:07 | 0:38:09 | |
Miss Ibro, as soon as I identified who I was, you hung up the phone. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:14 | |
Just to advise, we are currently outside The Hamlet. | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
Ring me back to rectify this matter | 0:38:17 | 0:38:19 | |
or we will just go ahead and get a locksmith and force entry to your | 0:38:19 | 0:38:22 | |
restaurant and remove the goods inside, whether you are here or not. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:26 | |
Please give me a call back immediately. Thank you. | 0:38:26 | 0:38:29 | |
Gerald then tries to call from his phone, because she won't recognise | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
his number, but he can't get an answer either. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:37 | |
Despite this, they decide to give Miss Ibro time to turn up in person | 0:38:39 | 0:38:43 | |
-and clear the debt. -If those shutters aren't open at 2pm, | 0:38:43 | 0:38:47 | |
then I think that's the point at which we'll call a locksmith and | 0:38:47 | 0:38:49 | |
just crack on, otherwise it could be a bit of a wasted journey. | 0:38:49 | 0:38:53 | |
INTERNAL RINGTONE | 0:38:53 | 0:38:55 | |
Gerald gives her one more chance to answer the phone. | 0:38:55 | 0:38:58 | |
This time, to his surprise, she does. | 0:38:58 | 0:39:01 | |
Hi, my name's Mr Anderson, | 0:39:01 | 0:39:02 | |
I'm an enforcement agent around at The Hamlet. | 0:39:02 | 0:39:06 | |
Are you on your way here now? | 0:39:06 | 0:39:08 | |
If you're not going to come here and sort this out, | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
I've got a writ of control that I will execute. | 0:39:11 | 0:39:15 | |
I'm hoping to sort this out with you before you open, | 0:39:15 | 0:39:19 | |
so if you could make your way here, we can get this resolved. | 0:39:19 | 0:39:23 | |
She tells Gerald she's an employee at the bar, and he needs to talk to | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
the owner of the company. But Gerald's done his homework and he | 0:39:26 | 0:39:30 | |
-knows different. -You are the director of that company. | 0:39:30 | 0:39:34 | |
I have a writ against you personally. | 0:39:34 | 0:39:38 | |
Gerald wants the debtor to understand just how serious the | 0:39:38 | 0:39:41 | |
situation is. | 0:39:41 | 0:39:43 | |
I would suggest, if you are on a day off or not, I would come here, | 0:39:43 | 0:39:47 | |
because if the place doesn't open, I will open it. | 0:39:47 | 0:39:50 | |
I'm giving you the chance of coming here to sort this debt out. | 0:39:50 | 0:39:54 | |
If you do not come here, I will open up this place. | 0:39:54 | 0:39:58 | |
It's your choice. You've got a debt, you need to sort it. | 0:39:58 | 0:40:01 | |
Eventually, Bukurie Ibro says she'll be there in 15 minutes. | 0:40:01 | 0:40:05 | |
The sheriffs sit in their van, | 0:40:05 | 0:40:07 | |
parked a few yards up the road, and wait. | 0:40:07 | 0:40:10 | |
Yeah, at the moment, I'm sat here people-watching. | 0:40:10 | 0:40:13 | |
I'm actually trying to look and see if I can spot her before she arrives | 0:40:13 | 0:40:17 | |
-at the property. -Right on cue, they see Bukurie Ibro opening up... | 0:40:17 | 0:40:22 | |
-Is that the one we're after, is it? -Yeah. -..and they leap into action. | 0:40:22 | 0:40:26 | |
Hello. | 0:40:26 | 0:40:27 | |
Rob gets to her just in time, and puts his foot in the door to prevent | 0:40:28 | 0:40:32 | |
-her locking them out. -Hello. | 0:40:32 | 0:40:35 | |
I'm a High Court enforcement agent. | 0:40:35 | 0:40:37 | |
I'm a High Court enforcement agent, don't shut the door on me. | 0:40:37 | 0:40:40 | |
I don't understand, no. | 0:40:40 | 0:40:41 | |
My foot is staying in the door, it's not going anywhere. | 0:40:41 | 0:40:43 | |
She's on the phone to her solicitor. | 0:40:43 | 0:40:45 | |
Rob explains again the reason for their visit. | 0:40:45 | 0:40:48 | |
There's my identification. | 0:40:48 | 0:40:51 | |
We're here, we're here with a High Court writ. | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
She says she'll talk to the sheriffs but doesn't want to let the camera | 0:40:53 | 0:40:56 | |
-inside. -I can come in and speak to you, he can stay out here if you | 0:40:56 | 0:40:59 | |
want, that's fine. Yeah. All right? | 0:40:59 | 0:41:01 | |
Yeah, he'll stay out here. He'll film from out here, then, all right? | 0:41:01 | 0:41:05 | |
Well, can you let me in, then, please? | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
Can you let me in, then, please? Thank you. | 0:41:07 | 0:41:09 | |
She lets Rob and Gerald in, and hands Rob the phone so he can speak | 0:41:09 | 0:41:13 | |
to her solicitor. | 0:41:13 | 0:41:14 | |
Rob explains to the solicitor that Bukurie Ibro had previously failed | 0:41:16 | 0:41:20 | |
to keep to a payment plan to clear the debt. | 0:41:20 | 0:41:23 | |
She had the arrangement through the court. She failed to maintain that | 0:41:23 | 0:41:26 | |
arrangement, and that was an arrangement that she was aware of. | 0:41:26 | 0:41:29 | |
He tells the solicitor the best option now is to clear | 0:41:29 | 0:41:32 | |
-the debt in full. -As of today, the balance, if you pay it now | 0:41:32 | 0:41:36 | |
and agree to pay now, it's £3,120.73. | 0:41:36 | 0:41:39 | |
And that will be the end of it, gone, finished. | 0:41:39 | 0:41:42 | |
But that's as long as she agrees to pay it now. | 0:41:42 | 0:41:44 | |
If I've got to start walking around and listing assets, it goes up. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:47 | |
Rob hands the phone back to Miss Ibro, and shortly afterwards, | 0:41:47 | 0:41:50 | |
she agrees to clear the debt. | 0:41:50 | 0:41:52 | |
Gerald emerges with an update. | 0:41:52 | 0:41:54 | |
It's going to plan at the moment. | 0:41:54 | 0:41:57 | |
No real readies in my hand yet, | 0:41:57 | 0:41:59 | |
but she's trying to do half the | 0:41:59 | 0:42:02 | |
payment on the automated payment line, | 0:42:02 | 0:42:05 | |
and she's going to do the other half by card. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
I'm just going to get my PDQ machine | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
and hopefully should be out of there within the next ten. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:16 | |
Gerald's prediction turns out to be correct. | 0:42:18 | 0:42:21 | |
Ten minutes later, the sheriffs have secured payment in full. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
-Thanks now, bye-bye. -Cheers, thank you. Take care, ta-ra. | 0:42:24 | 0:42:28 | |
A successful outcome on this one. | 0:42:30 | 0:42:32 | |
They weren't too happy with us at the beginning, as you saw with | 0:42:32 | 0:42:35 | |
the foot in the door, however they did eventually let us in. | 0:42:35 | 0:42:38 | |
We have now had settlement. | 0:42:38 | 0:42:40 | |
They made a fast BACS payment into our account, | 0:42:40 | 0:42:42 | |
settling the balance in full. | 0:42:42 | 0:42:44 | |
That's a total payment of £3,121, | 0:42:44 | 0:42:49 | |
which means the former employee will finally get his unpaid wages. | 0:42:49 | 0:42:53 |