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Fitness First, we expose their Fitness First, we expose their | :00:10. | :00:11. | |
shocking sales tactics. British shocking sales tactics. British | :00:11. | :00:15. | |
Airways, easyJet, we reveal the truth about their special offers. | :00:15. | :00:21. | |
Plus Holiday Inn, B&Q and the iPhone 4S. We've asked lots of questions; | :00:21. | :00:25. | |
so very odd answers. It's watchdog, the programme you cannot | :00:25. | :00:35. | |
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Yes, hello and good evening. Welcome Yes, hello and good evening. Welcome | :00:47. | :00:54. | |
to watchdog. We are live, as usual, from Television Centre. Tonight: | :00:54. | :00:57. | |
Undercover at Fitness First, how they break the rules when signing | :00:57. | :01:01. | |
you up. Consumers are not being given these contract terms to read | :01:01. | :01:06. | |
through and that's outrageous. Also tonight, when | :01:06. | :01:10. | |
sale not a sale? When British Airways advertise price cuts | :01:10. | :01:14. | |
this. Plus Crowne Plaza, Marriott, Holiday | :01:14. | :01:18. | |
Inn, staying with one of them over Easter? Best leave your laptop | :01:18. | :01:22. | |
home. And the iPhone 4S, Apple promised your own personal | :01:22. | :01:27. | |
assistant. Pity he can't answer even simple questions. Well, does he know | :01:27. | :01:31. | |
where we can find a decent gardener? Someone who comes with the | :01:31. | :01:35. | |
tools and doesn't have a fight a tree stump, because we could | :01:35. | :01:42. | |
certainly do with one. He is just laying on his back now and Kung Fu | :01:42. | :01:50. | |
kicking it. It's unbelievable. BLEEP. | :01:51. | :01:59. | |
Yes, you don't mess with Lawrence of Yes, you don't mess with Lawrence of | :01:59. | :02:00. | |
Arboria working for Buildline Arboria working for Buildline | :02:00. | :02:02. | |
Arboria working for Buildline Landscapes of north London, and be | :02:02. | :02:02. | |
Landscapes of north London, and be Landscapes of north London, and be | :02:02. | :02:03. | |
Yes, you don't very careful if you are dealing | :02:03. | :02:07. | |
the man in charge of that Chris Marino, because | :02:07. | :02:13. | |
Before that, British Airways, Before that, British Airways, | :02:14. | :02:17. | |
easyJet, Thomas Cook, they've all had sales on lately but if you took | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
advantage to get a good deal, prepared for a shock. I may not | :02:22. | :02:26. | |
an expert in all things linguistic but when I see the world "sale", | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
expect that to mean lower than usual prices for a limited period in | :02:29. | :02:34. | |
I can bag myself a bargain. Or, to put it another way, prices will be | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
cheaper during the sale than before or after. But when it comes to some | :02:38. | :02:43. | |
of our best known airlines, not always the case. | :02:43. | :02:47. | |
Graham Wright booked two flights in Graham Wright booked two flights in | :02:47. | :02:51. | |
the British Airways winter sale in January. That was for a trip to St | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
Petersburg this month. My wife has a landmark birthday in April. I | :02:56. | :02:59. | |
on the British Airways website because I knew the sale was on and | :02:59. | :03:04. | |
saw there were only five seats remaining to St Petersburg at �580, | :03:04. | :03:08. | |
so I thought I had better book them now because otherwise the price | :03:08. | :03:13. | |
be going up when the sale ends and these five seats have gone. But | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
week later, after the sale had finished, Graham looked at the | :03:16. | :03:23. | |
prices again. So then decided as it's a landmark birthday maybe we | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
should upgrade the flight to make it a bit more special so I went back | :03:27. | :03:33. | |
onto the website and saw that flights were now �200 cheaper. I was | :03:33. | :03:38. | |
angry and shocked, duped into buying them then because there were only | :03:38. | :03:44. | |
five remaining at that price. One angry customer, one strange sale. Is | :03:44. | :03:51. | |
BA allowed to do this? BA may be contravening the consumer protection | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
from unfair trading regulations that it is falsely suggesting that | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
product is only available reduced price for a limited period, | :04:00. | :04:04. | |
so that it encourages the to take an immediate decision to | :04:04. | :04:10. | |
purchase, rather than reflecting properly on the transaction. | :04:10. | :04:12. | |
We found other airlines potentially We found other airlines potentially | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
committing similar breaches, like Thomas Cook. Sharon Jackson | :04:17. | :04:23. | |
monitored the price of her flights to Turkey throughout its sale in | :04:23. | :04:27. | |
October. On the very day that sale ended she bagged herself a flight | :04:27. | :04:32. | |
for �201 only to discover, less than 24 hours later, a seat for the same | :04:32. | :04:38. | |
flight was more than �50 cheaper. But that's nothing compared with | :04:38. | :04:45. | |
Cricket lover Nicholas Waldock was Cricket lover Nicholas Waldock was | :04:45. | :04:46. | |
Cricket lover Nicholas Waldock was planning to watch England's Test | :04:46. | :04:47. | |
planning to watch England's Test planning to watch England's Test | :04:47. | :04:48. | |
Cricket lover Nicholas match in Sri Lanka in March. | :04:48. | :04:53. | |
there was a three-day global sale he began monitoring online prices with | :04:53. | :04:58. | |
Qatar Airways. The prices time were �510 to Colombo. The first | :04:59. | :05:01. | |
day of the sale we looked at the website, expecting prices | :05:01. | :05:07. | |
come down but in fact they had gone up to �573. Yep, you heard that | :05:07. | :05:12. | |
right, the price was �63 more expensive during the sale. We left | :05:12. | :05:16. | |
it for a couple of days towards end of the sale but realised the | :05:16. | :05:20. | |
prices weren't going to change so we took the plunge and bought the | :05:20. | :05:24. | |
tickets at that price. You can probably guess what happened next, | :05:24. | :05:30. | |
the sale ended and just hours later the ticket prices dropped by �78 to | :05:30. | :05:35. | |
�495 each. We were very, very angry. We did feel very misled. We felt the | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
promotion had misled consumers completely and we wanted some sort | :05:39. | :05:44. | |
of explanation. Sadly Qatar Airways didn't provide one. When Nick | :05:44. | :05:51. | |
contacted them, they simply replied: fares are subject to | :05:51. | :05:55. | |
depending on the seat availability. But should they be? The airlines | :05:55. | :06:01. | |
claim that the price may fluctuate due to supply and demand. It's not | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
applicable here. If demand has gone up during the sale then by the end | :06:05. | :06:10. | |
of the sale there will be fewer seats available and so logically the | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
price ought to go up even higher after the sale. In fact, the price | :06:14. | :06:19. | |
A trend we thought we would put to A trend we thought we would put to | :06:19. | :06:25. | |
A trend we thought we would put to To find out how volatile its prices | :06:25. | :06:26. | |
To find out how volatile its prices To find out how volatile its prices | :06:26. | :06:27. | |
A trend we can be, we monitored | :06:27. | :06:34. | |
its leap year sale in February. The message in the ad was clear: get in | :06:34. | :06:38. | |
early as prices may rise during the sale period, and book before | :06:38. | :06:43. | |
midnight on Wednesday when the sale ends. | :06:43. | :06:45. | |
18 flights did go up after the sale, 18 flights did go up after the sale, | :06:45. | :06:50. | |
but two didn't. So, say I had wanted to book a flight from Manchester to | :06:50. | :06:55. | |
Tenerife on Saturday 2nd June 2012, well, if I booked early on day one, | :06:55. | :07:01. | |
because remember prices may rise, I would have paid �186.46. | :07:01. | :07:07. | |
have been a bargain? No, because by day four of the sale the price has | :07:07. | :07:14. | |
gone down to �140.99. So, have kept my nerve and seen if | :07:14. | :07:19. | |
price would drop any further, but it didn't. In fact, by the sixth | :07:19. | :07:24. | |
final day of the sale, the warning about price rises came true and | :07:24. | :07:33. | |
cost had shot back up to �191.99. So, should I have booked | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
before midnight when the sale ended? It's a good thing I didn't because | :07:37. | :07:43. | |
the very next day, with the sale now over, the price was �6 cheaper. It | :07:43. | :07:47. | |
is certainly confusing, airlines know it. When they | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
advertise a sale price, they tell us what the previous price was. | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
It means we don't know if we are getting a good deal or not and it | :07:55. | :08:02. | |
means they are potentially consumer law. Breach of regulation 6 | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
can lead to administrative sanctions being taken or even a prosecution | :08:06. | :08:11. | |
for a criminal offence. There is no reason at all for airline ticket | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
sellers not to have to comply with these provisions. They apply to | :08:15. | :08:22. | |
traders in general and airlines should comply with the requirements. | :08:22. | :08:24. | |
Rebecca Willcox reporting there. Rebecca Willcox reporting there. | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
Now, BA says it takes its legal obligations seriously and | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
to Graham Wright. It says: this was an isolated incident and not an | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
attempt to mislead. His should have cost more after the sale | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
ended but declining demand and competition meant they maintained | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
lower price. Thomas Cook says prices can vary at any | :08:42. | :08:47. | |
the number of seats left and the departure date but Sharon Jackson's | :08:47. | :08:50. | |
case was exceptional and they refunded the price difference and | :08:50. | :08:57. | |
provided her with free inflight meals. Qatar Airlines apologises and | :08:57. | :09:03. | |
says the confusion was due to two different sales promotions running | :09:03. | :09:10. | |
at the same time. Only a small number of passengers on the easyJet | :09:10. | :09:14. | |
flight will end up paying more, say, and the airline will now | :09:14. | :09:24. | |
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the difference. . | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
Coming up, Britain's health clubs Coming up, Britain's health clubs | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
under investigation by the government. Our cameras undercover | :09:37. | :09:43. | |
at Fitness First. Its boss has questions to answer. | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
Now, spring's here, the sap is Now, spring's here, the sap is | :09:46. | :09:51. | |
rising, the garden needs Feeling active? Whip out the mower | :09:51. | :09:55. | |
and shears. Feeling lazy? Call the professionals, but be careful | :09:55. | :10:05. | |
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who you choose because some have some very funny ideas. | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
It's the height of garden cool, It's the height of garden cool, | :10:15. | :10:20. | |
relaxing and tranquil, the contemporary Japanese style. This | :10:20. | :10:25. | |
goes down a storm with the smart set you know but some others have yet | :10:26. | :10:35. | |
catch up. What no landscape, based on Japanese | :10:35. | :10:41. | |
paintings of hillsides and reduced in size to fit the available space. | :10:41. | :10:46. | |
I wish they had done a painting of a barbecue and blownup arm chair. | :10:46. | :10:51. | |
That's what is missing. He might right. Tell you what, there's | :10:51. | :10:58. | |
personal touch there. That's better. Yes, another man with very different | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
garden ideas is Chris Marino, operating round north London he used | :11:02. | :11:11. | |
to run a company called Garden Base Ltd. Looks can be | :11:11. | :11:14. | |
Marino has no connection with a major retailer or any other | :11:14. | :11:19. | |
companies which may have similar names. He now runs Buildline | :11:19. | :11:24. | |
Landscapes, the trading name of Lloyds Mint Ltd, and he | :11:25. | :11:29. | |
connection with Jenny him and his team last August. | :11:29. | :11:33. | |
Right, what exactly did you want to have done? Well, I wanted new | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
pathways and a new patio area at the back and a wider path. At what | :11:38. | :11:42. | |
stage then did you start to think: hold on, this is not quite right. I | :11:42. | :11:45. | |
just said to my son, I think you ought to get over here and have a | :11:45. | :11:49. | |
look. He said: this isn't right. What have they done here? Oh, he | :11:50. | :11:55. | |
said, this is just rubbish. And no wonder he wasn't impressed. Partway | :11:55. | :11:59. | |
through the job, the walls weren't straight, bricks not cut properly | :11:59. | :12:03. | |
and the patio was a mess. Marino claimed there was nothing wrong with | :12:03. | :12:06. | |
the work carried out by his lads. However, after an argument with | :12:06. | :12:09. | |
Jenny's son he agreed to send so-called expert | :12:09. | :12:16. | |
right. The result? It was worse even than it was before. There were | :12:16. | :12:22. | |
bricks that were loose, not cut properly, some steps seemed to | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
higher than others. The walls up side of the path were not straight. | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
Nearly two months after they started work, and despite Jenny's concerns, | :12:30. | :12:38. | |
Chris Marino claimed the job was a good un, and the charge? �12,000. | :12:38. | :12:42. | |
Have you spoken to somebody else to get it right? Yes, I have spoken to | :12:42. | :12:45. | |
three other landscape gardeners and they've told me roughly what it | :12:45. | :12:49. | |
would cost to put it right. Which is what? Round about �6,000. | :12:49. | :12:51. | |
Jenny, would you like me Chris Marino and possibly | :12:51. | :13:00. | |
him? I would. Well that's will do. | :13:00. | :13:02. | |
�12,000? These gardens don't come �12,000? These gardens don't come | :13:02. | :13:06. | |
cheap. And Chris Marino is not just a shoddy noddy. It turns out | :13:06. | :13:10. | |
been taking money out of people's accounts without their say-so. | :13:10. | :13:18. | |
Trading Standards have investigated him twice. It's time to see the cut | :13:18. | :13:25. | |
of his jib. Hey? Let's secret film him. Oh that, yes, sorry. To | :13:25. | :13:29. | |
fair, it is what we always do. You know, secretly film, so we need an | :13:29. | :13:35. | |
old lady, a load of cameras, big garden and an expert | :13:35. | :13:44. | |
Hello, Mark. Hello. Good to see Hello, Mark. Hello. Good to see | :13:45. | :13:48. | |
you. Nice bike. Thanks, mate. You've had a look at the garden | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
then, what do you make of it? It's very straightforward, a big garden, | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
needs a lot of work doing to it we've identified three projects that | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
need doing straightaway. There's a hazel stump to take out, right in | :14:00. | :14:02. | |
the middle of the garden. There's an old fruit tree on the right-hand | :14:02. | :14:09. | |
side, and a laurel that needs cutting down to ground level. A bit | :14:09. | :14:15. | |
more scrub, some rubble, plastic guttering, a steady day's work for | :14:15. | :14:25. | |
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one man. In terms of cost? I would say max350. OK, we will crack | :14:25. | :14:33. | |
then. Can I give you anywhere? No, that's very kind but | :14:33. | :14:39. | |
he gets a bit funny. Cheers, Mark. No problem. OK, we are teeing off. | :14:39. | :14:44. | |
Home owner Alison is practising her swing. Coming up the drive is Chris | :14:44. | :14:49. | |
Marino, check out his little buggy. He is charging us �12 just for a | :14:49. | :14:54. | |
quote. Par for the course apparently. He is coming! That's | :14:54. | :15:01. | |
enough about golf. My name is Chris. Formalities out of the way, | :15:01. | :15:06. | |
Alison shows him the garden. Everything tidied up | :15:06. | :15:10. | |
horticulturally? See all this rubble stuff over there - OK. | :15:10. | :15:17. | |
Could you clear that away for me? We can do, yes. Go on, show him our | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
stump. We will cut it down to ground level, then inject a poison | :15:21. | :15:27. | |
into it. Nice. Who is he getting to tackle this monumental challenge? | :15:27. | :15:36. | |
it Titchmarsh? Lawrence is a great horticulturalist, grade | :15:36. | :15:42. | |
been doing it all his life. Now for the all-important price. | :15:42. | :15:52. | |
waste removal, which is 165. Squeeze my sectures, including VAT that's a | :15:52. | :15:59. | |
whopping �1,100 for a simple tidyup. Pay by credit card. You have to | :15:59. | :16:04. | |
pay before? Half before and half when the job is done. OK, we agree | :16:04. | :16:09. | |
to pay him �550 but guess what, later that day he takes the entire | :16:09. | :16:16. | |
sum from our account. He is not just for hire, he is a very naughty boy. | :16:16. | :16:19. | |
Yes, actually he is a bit worse than Yes, actually he is a bit worse than | :16:19. | :16:22. | |
naughty because the courts have already warned him not to take money | :16:22. | :16:24. | |
from people's accounts without their approval, so it seems Chris | :16:24. | :16:30. | |
is up to his old tricks, where payment is concerned. But has he | :16:30. | :16:35. | |
learned a lesson when it comes to workmanship? Join us in the garden | :16:35. | :16:39. | |
in about ten minutes. Next, Fitness First, LA Fitness, | :16:39. | :16:43. | |
between them more than 600,000 members in the UK. Now, the | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
of Fair Trading is currently investigating gym chains to make | :16:47. | :16:50. | |
sure they are not breaking the law when it comes | :16:50. | :16:55. | |
procedures but surely the biggest chain is playing it by the book. | :16:55. | :17:02. | |
Well, you would hope so. First each year and we have been | :17:02. | :17:06. | |
hearing from members who wish they hadn't. I signed up to Fitness | :17:06. | :17:09. | |
First, they were promoting a summer deal for four months which suited | :17:09. | :17:12. | |
really well because I the end of that period. I spoke to | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
them over the phone originally and then went in and signed up, | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
the paperwork, and away I went. I went to join Fitness First in | :17:20. | :17:24. | |
autumn and I wanted a four-month contract. I specifically was | :17:24. | :17:27. | |
after four months, which the end of January, your | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
will be over, and if you want can renew it. So as far as I was | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
concerned, at the end of January, that would be it. But for these | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
members neither contracts they believed it had. Four | :17:38. | :17:44. | |
after the end date, the gym took another payment from her bank. I | :17:44. | :17:49. | |
called and spoke to the Fitness First representative and he said I | :17:49. | :17:54. | |
was supposed to give one month's notice if I wanted | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
cancelled which was never made clear. So I agreed to that, said OK | :17:58. | :18:02. | |
I give my one month's notice, then he said now because it extends | :18:02. | :18:08. | |
1st March you will have to pay for the rest of March. So Katia had to | :18:08. | :18:17. | |
pay another two months' fees, �90, to get out of her contract but for | :18:17. | :18:21. | |
Charlotte it was even worse. It was only after about a year that I | :18:21. | :18:25. | |
realised they had taken almost �450 out of my account. Both had been | :18:25. | :18:29. | |
caught out by Fitness First's strict cancellation policy but they | :18:29. | :18:34. | |
got to know about that policy after they had signed up. When I was | :18:34. | :18:37. | |
signing up I wasn't shown any terms and conditions. I was quickly given | :18:37. | :18:41. | |
the contract to sign. The employee filled in all my details so I didn't | :18:41. | :18:45. | |
get any time to look at it at all. A gym chain signing people up | :18:45. | :18:48. | |
without showing them the terms and conditions first? Aren't there rules | :18:48. | :18:56. | |
about that? Actually, yes, and here they are, the guidance of unfair | :18:56. | :18:59. | |
terms agreement. This was published by the Office of Fair Trading in | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
2002 and when you read through it, it clearly says that the gym should | :19:03. | :19:05. | |
give any potential member the opportunity to read and understand | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
their terms before they come bound by them. Now, we've already heard of | :19:09. | :19:14. | |
two cases where Fitness to do that. Will we find anymore? | :19:14. | :19:18. | |
Time for a watchdog undercover investigation. Welcome to Fitness | :19:18. | :19:27. | |
First. Two researchers, ten branches and a road trip around the UK. | :19:27. | :19:31. | |
We wanted to find out just how We wanted to find out just how | :19:31. | :19:35. | |
upfront staff are about all that contractual small print. The answer? | :19:35. | :19:42. | |
In fact, none of the ten branches In fact, none of the ten branches | :19:42. | :19:44. | |
offered to show us the details. | :19:45. | :19:51. | |
We had to ask for them. At the We had to ask for them. At the | :19:51. | :19:52. | |
We had to ask for them. At the Hammersmith branch in London, we | :19:52. | :19:53. | |
Hammersmith branch in London, we Hammersmith branch in London, we | :19:53. | :19:57. | |
We had to were told no such thing existed. | :19:58. | :20:07. | |
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He did eventually produce them. He He did eventually produce them. He | :20:09. | :20:19. | |
then expected us to read the entire 2,295 words in just 33 seconds. | :20:19. | :20:25. | |
Incredibly, in five of the branches staff ticked the box on our behalf, | :20:25. | :20:28. | |
certifying that we had read the terms and conditions, even | :20:28. | :20:34. | |
hadn't. You have already ticked terms and conditions. In two | :20:34. | :20:39. | |
branches, Bristol and London Embankment, they said they would | :20:39. | :20:46. | |
send the contract to us, but we had signed up. | :20:46. | :20:48. | |
In terms of presenting the terms as In terms of presenting the terms as | :20:48. | :20:51. | |
a whole to customers, the should have an opportunity to | :20:51. | :20:54. | |
through those terms. Consumers are not being given these | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
to read through. The people trying to sell them the memberships are | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
pretending that they've read them by ticking the box themselves, in place | :21:01. | :21:06. | |
of the person signing up. That's fairly outrageous. So we've seen | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
the OFT guidance on terms and conditions isn't being followed but | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
what about another section in this document, the one that says that | :21:12. | :21:16. | |
gyms should make an effort to highlight and explain important | :21:16. | :21:22. | |
contractual provisions? Now, if you have a direct debit with Fitness | :21:22. | :21:25. | |
First your membership will continue beyond the expiry date unless you | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
contact them to cancel it, plus have to get in touch with them | :21:29. | :21:33. | |
whole month before you want it to end. Pretty important parts of the | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
contract, I would say, but not all the staff shared that view. | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
Only five branches volunteered the Only five branches volunteered the | :21:41. | :21:44. | |
fact our membership would automatically roll over. One gym, | :21:44. | :21:49. | |
Cardiff, failed to tell us at all, and four only told us after we had | :21:49. | :21:54. | |
asked them about it. . | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
Two branches didn't mention anything Two branches didn't mention anything | :21:57. | :21:57. | |
Two branches didn't mention anything about the month's notice we would | :21:57. | :21:58. | |
about the month's notice we would about the month's notice we would | :21:58. | :22:00. | |
Two branches didn't have to give to cancel. One of the | :22:00. | :22:04. | |
things the consumer protection from unfair trading regulations says is | :22:04. | :22:09. | |
that you can't material information. If the company | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
doesn't show any terms and conditions or doesn't run through | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
the main important points verbally then they are actually deceiving in | :22:16. | :22:20. | |
terms of the overall presentation. Gym membership doesn't come cheap. | :22:20. | :22:26. | |
At Fitness First there's a joining fee of �34.95, although sometimes | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
they waive that fee so you sign up there and then. Then you have the | :22:30. | :22:36. | |
monthly subscriptions ranging from �14.95 to �67.95. No surprise then | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
that some people have second thoughts once they've signed up. The | :22:39. | :22:45. | |
OFT says all gyms should provide a cooling-off period during which time | :22:45. | :22:47. | |
would-be members are allowed change their mind. The | :22:47. | :22:52. | |
contract does allow you ten days, but two branches didn't tell us | :22:52. | :22:57. | |
about this and at Hammersmith, well, let's just say they were reluctant. | :22:57. | :23:07. | |
:23:07. | :23:09. | ||
So if I sign up now, is there a cooling-off period? | :23:09. | :23:19. | |
:23:19. | :23:33. | ||
So after all that, what's the legal So after all that, what's the legal | :23:34. | :23:37. | |
verdict? Well, there are a lot of issues here. The regulators | :23:37. | :23:40. | |
obviously looked at this about ten years ago. I think in light of | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
this footage they should be taking quite a close look at it | :23:43. | :23:47. | |
years later. Some of the practices we've seen seem to be very shoddy at | :23:47. | :23:51. | |
best, and potentially those are breaches of the consumer protection | :23:51. | :23:56. | |
from unfair trading regulations. OK, our cameras have also been inside LA | :23:56. | :24:00. | |
Fitness. We will show you that in a minute, but with me now the chief | :24:00. | :24:03. | |
executive of Fitness First, Chris Stone. Thank you for coming in, Mr | :24:03. | :24:09. | |
Stone. So, hiding information, falsely ticking boxes, failing to | :24:09. | :24:14. | |
mention the cooling-off period. You saw the lawyer there describe it as | :24:14. | :24:19. | |
deception. What would you call it? Well, I would say that it is not in | :24:19. | :24:23. | |
line with the policies or behaviours that we expect of any our members | :24:23. | :24:27. | |
or, sorry, any of our employees Fitness First, and it's a very sad | :24:27. | :24:30. | |
day for us to see that behaviour in one of our clubs. | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
not just in one of your clubs though, is it? We went to ten clubs. | :24:34. | :24:39. | |
Not a single one of them offered us and volunteered the terms and | :24:39. | :24:44. | |
conditions, so we are not talking random here. Well, again, I would | :24:44. | :24:49. | |
apologise on behalf of the to any of our members that feels | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
that they have been sold a membership without the full | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
information they need to make correct decision. If you had | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
treated like we were in one of those gyms, would you | :24:59. | :25:07. | |
mis-sold? A membership? I wouldn't have thought that the treatment that | :25:07. | :25:10. | |
they received in the club entirely to mis-selling, but clearly | :25:11. | :25:14. | |
what did happen was they were given all of the information they | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
should have been given to be able to make the full decision about | :25:17. | :25:22. | |
to join. Mr Stone, ten gyms are not one of them - and not one of them | :25:23. | :25:26. | |
volunteered the terms and conditions. Well, as I watched | :25:26. | :25:32. | |
video earlier, I didn't see that all ten gyms behaved in that way but | :25:32. | :25:36. | |
it's certainly clear that the gyms that you visited did not treat the | :25:36. | :25:40. | |
prospective member in the way we expect them to be treated. Are | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
your people on commission? Every salesperson in our business does | :25:44. | :25:49. | |
receive a commission, yes. Is that the reason that - no. - They are | :25:49. | :25:54. | |
ignoring and hiding detail? We changed the conditions and | :25:54. | :25:58. | |
for all of our employees a couple of years ago, to move to a balanced | :25:58. | :26:02. | |
scorecard way of paying them so that they get more of their - But it's | :26:02. | :26:08. | |
clearly not working and why does it take watchdog - this abuse is | :26:08. | :26:12. | |
clearly widespread - why has it taken us to show it to you? We | :26:12. | :26:15. | |
started a programme over a year ago of mystery shopping on our own. | :26:15. | :26:19. | |
It's not working though, is it? would say it is working. As your | :26:19. | :26:25. | |
tape showed, we have 190,000 people that joined our gyms last year, | :26:25. | :26:33. | |
we received less than about the membership-joining | :26:33. | :26:37. | |
process. I will have to stop you there, I am sorry, our time is up, | :26:37. | :26:43. | |
As we said, we also took our cameras As we said, we also took our cameras | :26:43. | :26:45. | |
into LA Fitness, that's the third largest gym chain in the | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
more than 200,000 members and we found OFT guidance being ignored | :26:50. | :26:56. | |
Six out of ten branches didn't tell Six out of ten branches didn't tell | :26:56. | :26:56. | |
Six out of ten branches didn't tell us our contract would be | :26:56. | :26:57. | |
us our contract would be us our contract would be | :26:57. | :26:58. | |
automatically renewed if we failed automatically renewed if we failed | :26:58. | :27:00. | |
Six out of to cancel. Half of them failed to | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
warn us we had to give a month's notice before leaving. Four failed | :27:03. | :27:06. | |
to show us the terms and conditions before we signed up and four | :27:07. | :27:10. | |
actually ticked the box on our behalf, which is all bad enough, but | :27:10. | :27:14. | |
it gets worse. Staff at LA Fitness | :27:14. | :27:18. | |
forgetting to tell people things, they've also been breaking their | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
promises and misleading customers like Caroline. I went into LA | :27:22. | :27:27. | |
Fitness, I wanted a three-month membership because I was finishing | :27:27. | :27:30. | |
uni and moving house. He said to me after three months that I could | :27:30. | :27:35. | |
bring in proof that I was home and he would cancel it | :27:35. | :27:39. | |
straightaway. When I queried this, he said "I am the manager of | :27:39. | :27:44. | |
memberships and it's not a problem, I promise you". Two months | :27:44. | :27:50. | |
Caroline did bring in proof that she was moving away but the assurance | :27:50. | :27:56. | |
was worthless. They were rude to me and were bankrupt about it that you | :27:56. | :28:01. | |
had to be further than 20 miles away from the LA Fitness branch in order | :28:01. | :28:07. | |
to cancel. One time the guy told me to cancel my direct debit as they | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
to cancel my direct debit as wouldn't be able to take any more | :28:10. | :28:15. | |
money out of my account. I did this and in turn had debt collectors | :28:15. | :28:20. | |
calling me at all hours. Caroline had received false information | :28:20. | :28:23. | |
signing up. LA Fitness' terms and conditions don't allow you to | :28:23. | :28:28. | |
if you move, but if a salesperson makes a verbal promise that induces | :28:28. | :28:32. | |
you to join then as far as the is concerned that's as binding as | :28:32. | :28:37. | |
anything in writing. If a consumer is clearly told they will have the | :28:37. | :28:40. | |
opportunity to cancel if they move away, it doesn't matter that's | :28:40. | :28:44. | |
in the contract. It must be followed through. If a consumer wouldn't have | :28:44. | :28:48. | |
signed up if they weren't told that, that is potentially a breach of the | :28:48. | :28:55. | |
Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations. LA Fitness has | :28:55. | :28:58. | |
since introduced a pledge which does spell out members' rights, | :28:58. | :29:02. | |
the right to cancel if you move away. As a rule of thumb this should | :29:02. | :29:06. | |
be at least ten miles nearest branch. Clear and simple | :29:06. | :29:10. | |
enough, so why did three gyms tell us this? | :29:10. | :29:20. | |
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Here is something else that might Here is something else that might | :29:25. | :29:35. | |
:29:35. | :29:41. | ||
Here is something else that might Reassuring, but is it true? | :29:41. | :29:42. | |
Reassuring, but is it true? Reassuring, but is it true? | :29:42. | :29:43. | |
Here is something else According to the new company | :29:43. | :29:48. | |
LA Fitness will "work with you if you lose your job". There's no | :29:48. | :29:52. | |
guarantee that you will be able to cancel your membership. It even says | :29:52. | :29:57. | |
it might "freeze it" instead. If somebody going in to sign up was | :29:57. | :30:00. | |
told that they can contract if they lose their | :30:00. | :30:04. | |
that is a promise with no caveats, no carve-outs, it is what it is. | :30:04. | :30:07. | |
company policy is actually different to what they were told, if | :30:07. | :30:11. | |
untrue, it's a breach of the Consumer Protection from Unfair | :30:11. | :30:16. | |
Trading Regulations. And what about a cooling-off period? | :30:16. | :30:20. | |
pledge couldn't be clearer. If you want to leave within ten days of | :30:20. | :30:26. | |
joining, you can. No hassle. Have these staff actually read it? No | :30:26. | :30:36. | |
:30:36. | :30:39. | ||
cooling-off period. . | :30:39. | :30:41. | |
The problem is they are giving The problem is they are giving | :30:41. | :30:43. | |
information to the consumer which is just wrong or missed out or | :30:43. | :30:47. | |
inaccurate. If you go in and sign up because you are told something | :30:47. | :30:52. | |
misleading, you can look to get that contract set aside. It's also | :30:52. | :30:57. | |
separately possibly a criminal offence under | :30:57. | :31:00. | |
Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations. You shouldn't have to | :31:00. | :31:04. | |
put up with that. LA Fitness they are disappointed by findings | :31:04. | :31:09. | |
which are not typical of what members can expect. They say they | :31:09. | :31:12. | |
followed the industry code of conduct, their Member Pledge goes | :31:12. | :31:16. | |
above and beyond their contractual commitments and has helped | :31:16. | :31:19. | |
their service and sign-up procedures. They say 50% of new | :31:19. | :31:22. | |
members stay for more than 12 months, the average length | :31:22. | :31:27. | |
membership is 22 months. They accept that mistakes can happen and | :31:27. | :31:32. | |
they do they address them. Still to come, the iPhone 4S, it has | :31:32. | :31:38. | |
personal assistant. Good job he doesn't work for me. | :31:38. | :31:42. | |
Time to catch up with Buildline Time to catch up with Buildline | :31:42. | :31:46. | |
Landscapes of north London now. Their boss, Chris Marino, has quoted | :31:46. | :31:50. | |
us �1,100 to tackle our garden and, although he was only supposed to | :31:50. | :31:54. | |
take half that sum from our account before work gets underway we know | :31:54. | :32:00. | |
has already taken the lot. So that work had better be good. | :32:00. | :32:03. | |
Well, it should be because he is Well, it should be because he is | :32:03. | :32:07. | |
sending round one of his best men, Lawrence Phillips, and we are | :32:07. | :32:15. | |
expecting the best manicure this side of Kew Gardens. Here he is. | :32:15. | :32:19. | |
Home owner Alison shows him round Home owner Alison shows him round | :32:19. | :32:24. | |
while expert Mark gets in position. Right then, first up, Lawrence is | :32:24. | :32:29. | |
taking on our tree stump. Immediately Mark spots a problem. He | :32:29. | :32:36. | |
has actually got a panel saw. That's a carpentery saw as opposed to a | :32:36. | :32:40. | |
garden saw. He has the wrong piece of kit. If you have the wrong kit, | :32:40. | :32:46. | |
the job will be a toughie and a lot more time-consuming. He is just | :32:46. | :32:56. | |
:32:56. | :32:58. | ||
laying on his back now and Kung Fu kicking it. It's unbelievable. | :32:58. | :33:00. | |
After much huff and puff, Lawrence After much huff and puff, Lawrence | :33:01. | :33:10. | |
finally kicks out our stump. Now onto our fruit tree. OK, we will | :33:10. | :33:18. | |
Now we are back, and it looks like Now we are back, and it looks like | :33:18. | :33:22. | |
we are heading for a rumble in the jungle. I believe he is psyching | :33:22. | :33:31. | |
himself up. Grrr. Now, I like Buildline's Lawrence but then I like | :33:31. | :33:35. | |
this small fruit tree. Which one is better? There's only one way to find | :33:35. | :33:45. | |
:33:45. | :33:48. | ||
out. Fight! He is actually wrestling the thing | :33:48. | :33:56. | |
on the floor now. It's more like WWWF really. | :33:56. | :33:59. | |
Yes, you could say that. Anyway, end Yes, you could say that. Anyway, end | :33:59. | :34:02. | |
of round 1, small fruit tree ahead on points. It's time | :34:02. | :34:09. | |
phone break. When you are ready, mate. And round 2. He is really | :34:09. | :34:17. | |
The tree is on the floor. It looks The tree is on the floor. It looks | :34:17. | :34:18. | |
The tree is on the floor. It looks like a second round knockout. It | :34:18. | :34:24. | |
like a second round knockout. It like a second round knockout. It | :34:24. | :34:26. | |
The tree is on could be all over. Boom indeed, | :34:26. | :34:34. | |
Lawrence. He has really got beaver up now. Take that. Oh. BLEEP. | :34:34. | :34:38. | |
Ouch. Well, the fight is over, but there's still work to be done. It's | :34:38. | :34:43. | |
time to move a whole ton of but Lawrence hasn't brought a | :34:43. | :34:48. | |
wheelbarrow so he is going to have to use this old rickety one that he | :34:48. | :34:56. | |
found lying around. You don't use clients' tools, it's completely the | :34:56. | :35:04. | |
wrong wheelbarrow for this. He is going to ruin the grass. Oh no. He | :35:04. | :35:14. | |
:35:14. | :35:20. | ||
is kind of struggling a little. Oops, don't worry about that one. | :35:20. | :35:22. | |
Right, after all the rubble, it's Right, after all the rubble, it's | :35:22. | :35:29. | |
time to dispose of the green waste. There he is, and - no, no, Lawrence, | :35:29. | :35:37. | |
that's the wrong way. Didn't we pay them to take that away? | :35:37. | :35:40. | |
certainly did. He is dumping more green waste down the bottom of the | :35:41. | :35:46. | |
garden. Run Lawrence, content with hiding waste at the | :35:46. | :35:49. | |
bottom of our garden he has got a present for someone else too. Oh no. | :35:49. | :35:53. | |
He is chucking it in the neighbour's garden. At least it's not our | :35:53. | :35:59. | |
garden. Dan! He has messed all day long, hasn't a clue what he | :35:59. | :36:04. | |
is doing, running out of light, just dumping stuff to get off the job. | :36:04. | :36:08. | |
The job isn't finished but Lawrence is and before leaving he calls his | :36:08. | :36:12. | |
boss, Chris Marino. Remember, Marino has already taken the full | :36:12. | :36:22. | |
from our account. It seems he even more. | :36:22. | :36:29. | |
would be another �550 which we definitely not going to give him. I | :36:30. | :36:33. | |
will just have to tell him I haven't got a cheque. Not many | :36:33. | :36:37. | |
now. So Lawrence goes, we are with an unfinished job, a mess of a | :36:37. | :36:45. | |
garden, all for 1100 quid. Do you realise that works out at | :36:45. | :36:51. | |
about �107 an hour. For that money you can get almost anyone to work | :36:51. | :36:55. | |
your garden for you. That's Keith. Can you take a bit more off | :36:55. | :37:01. | |
the top? Yeah. I reckon we should call Chris Marino back out, give him | :37:01. | :37:06. | |
another go. Yes, in the name of value for money. Oi, I've got | :37:06. | :37:14. | |
change for you by the way. Cheers, Cheggers. Chris finally agrees to | :37:14. | :37:23. | |
send his man over to finish the job off for free. How kind. This is | :37:23. | :37:26. | |
Lawrence, he has got rid of some rubble but how is he going to get | :37:26. | :37:31. | |
rid of the rest of our waste? Looks like we are about to find out. This | :37:31. | :37:34. | |
is actually unbelievable now, he is doing. He is looking to stash | :37:35. | :37:40. | |
the plastic that he is contracted to take away. It's dreadful. Absolutely | :37:40. | :37:49. | |
dreadful. Is he playing hide and seek with our stuff? Dan? | :37:49. | :37:53. | |
A quick cut and blow dry and he is A quick cut and blow dry and he is | :37:54. | :37:59. | |
out of there. Now Lawrence, tell us what you've done. Trees, plastic, | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
everything has gone now. very much. You are more than | :38:02. | :38:09. | |
welcome. Turns out Lawrence is a grade one porky-culturallist. | :38:09. | :38:14. | |
he goes. Time for an expert's opinion. Chaotic and shambolic. | :38:14. | :38:19. | |
didn't dig out the stump, he ripped half of it out, Kung Fu kicked | :38:19. | :38:24. | |
He has left us a trip hazard, a badly cut down stump, then he left | :38:24. | :38:29. | |
some really bad pruning at eye level. The rubbish, he kind of | :38:29. | :38:33. | |
it under the bushes in little piles so we wouldn't see it. He has | :38:33. | :38:36. | |
brick rubble and all the dust and rubbish. Bits of plastic that he | :38:36. | :38:40. | |
should have took away, it was like a comedy act. It would have been | :38:40. | :38:44. | |
quicker just to take it away. work for that money, what | :38:44. | :38:48. | |
make of it? It didn't stack the | :38:48. | :38:52. | |
in the viewing. He could easily have done it within seven hours with | :38:53. | :38:58. | |
right equipment. He made a lash of it. Buildline Landscapes are taking | :38:59. | :39:03. | |
the Mick with the plastic in garden and in your wallet. Chris | :39:03. | :39:08. | |
Marino has dug himself a hole so it's time to fill him in. We've | :39:08. | :39:12. | |
arranged another call-out for and instead of a little old lady | :39:12. | :39:22. | |
being there to meet him, it will be me. Next, the iPhone 4S, the most | :39:22. | :39:27. | |
amazing yet because of its intelligent assistant, Siri, | :39:27. | :39:36. | |
help. Did Mum email that recipe? Here is a recipe from Mum. Tell me | :39:36. | :39:40. | |
Paris will be nice this weekend. Should be pretty nice this weekend | :39:40. | :39:45. | |
in Paris. Sounds impressive. Does it work? Let's get close. We will | :39:45. | :39:50. | |
ask it a deep question, ready? know some, do you? What's the | :39:50. | :39:58. | |
meaning of life? Life, a principle or force that is considered to | :39:58. | :40:05. | |
underlie the distinctive quality of animate beings, I guess that | :40:05. | :40:09. | |
includes me. And me. It gave me deep answer there, but there are | :40:09. | :40:16. | |
things that it can't tell you. When Apple launched Siri in America they | :40:16. | :40:22. | |
made play of the fact it can help you find landmarks and things like | :40:22. | :40:27. | |
petrol stations. What's the Pacific like around here? Here's the | :40:27. | :40:32. | |
traffic. Trouble is, if you live here in the UK that feature doesn't | :40:32. | :40:40. | |
work. Ready? Try it. OK, what's the traffic like in West London? BLEEP. | :40:40. | :40:43. | |
Sorry Chris, I can only look for businesses, maps and traffic | :40:43. | :40:49. | |
United States, and when you are using US English. If I said it | :40:49. | :40:54. | |
an American accent? Yes, or shouted at it as you did there, I don't | :40:54. | :40:57. | |
think it helps. Exactly disappointed customers have told | :40:57. | :41:02. | |
watchdog. I saw the advert where it showed - the fellow on the phone | :41:02. | :41:07. | |
asked is his brother nearly here yet and it brought his brother up on a | :41:07. | :41:10. | |
map at Nottingham football and I thought that's pretty good. | :41:10. | :41:16. | |
I'm a one-man band electrical company, | :41:16. | :41:21. | |
ask if there's a local wholesaler a little village, get what I need | :41:21. | :41:24. | |
from there rather than having to drive to a major town in order to | :41:24. | :41:30. | |
get a light bulb or something similar. Can I buy | :41:30. | :41:36. | |
around here? Sorry, I can only find businesses in the United States. It | :41:36. | :41:44. | |
wasn't worth paying the hundreds of pounds to upgrade it. What do Apple | :41:44. | :41:48. | |
say? They insist they never said location services would work in | :41:48. | :41:56. | |
UK. The ASA has rejected complaints about the ads also. Listen to this: | :41:56. | :42:06. | |
:42:06. | :42:07. | ||
what date is Easter Sunday? BLEEP. I have no idea what the date is in 11 | :42:07. | :42:13. | |
minus 48 Wide City Close. How is that? Yes, how silly is that. | :42:14. | :42:18. | |
What do you think of that? You are rubbish. Now, now. Is he telling me | :42:18. | :42:24. | |
off? I think so, I think he was saying: calm down, dear. Sort it | :42:24. | :42:31. | |
out, Apple. These phones cost up to �699. Earlier we looked at holiday | :42:31. | :42:39. | |
flights. Cheaper perhaps to stay a hotel at home. But don't take your | :42:39. | :42:44. | |
laptop. I love surfing the web. Email is | :42:44. | :42:47. | |
fantastic and these social sites are a great way of | :42:47. | :42:56. | |
communicating with friends and complete strangers. | :42:56. | :43:04. | |
Oh well, there's a downside to Oh well, there's a downside to | :43:04. | :43:07. | |
everything. What's good though is that, if you do want to go online | :43:07. | :43:11. | |
with one of these, you don't have to be tied to your home or office. | :43:11. | :43:16. | |
There are wi-fi hot spots all over the place and lots of places like | :43:16. | :43:22. | |
this one now offer free access, so for the price of a latte, you can | :43:22. | :43:30. | |
So here is my question: if some So here is my question: if some | :43:30. | :43:30. | |
So here is my question: if some restaurants, fast food joints and | :43:30. | :43:31. | |
restaurants, fast food joints and restaurants, fast food joints and | :43:31. | :43:32. | |
So here is my coffee shops now let you go online | :43:32. | :43:37. | |
for free, why don't more of our hotels, which are already charging | :43:37. | :43:42. | |
us a fortune to stay there? And when I say "fortune", just listen to some | :43:42. | :43:49. | |
of these top of the range London deals. The Sheraton Park Lane hotel, | :43:49. | :43:58. | |
�149 per room for a night. internet access. The Dorchester, | :43:58. | :44:08. | |
:44:08. | :44:08. | ||
cheapest room �235; the cost of going online, �19.50. | :44:08. | :44:12. | |
The Ritz, rooms start at �255 a day. The Ritz, rooms start at �255 a day. | :44:12. | :44:19. | |
Want to get connected? That will be an extra �26 per day. | :44:19. | :44:22. | |
Of course most people will never set Of course most people will never set | :44:22. | :44:25. | |
foot inside such swanky hotels but that doesn't mean we won't get stung | :44:25. | :44:30. | |
because many of the less expensive ones are at it too, charging for | :44:30. | :44:35. | |
service which these days lots of guests regard as a basic essential. | :44:35. | :44:39. | |
That's all very well, I hear hotel owners say, but we are running | :44:39. | :44:44. | |
a bit here, how can you expect us to give you something for free when it | :44:44. | :44:49. | |
costs us to provide it? Well, I don't know how much it costs them | :44:49. | :44:57. | |
do this, but this fella does. Sinclair runs a London hotel where | :44:57. | :45:01. | |
wi-fi access is free for all guests. What's the damage? Internet access | :45:01. | :45:09. | |
costs us, I don't know, �300 a month, we've got 150 rooms so that's | :45:10. | :45:14. | |
�1.50 per room per month. Blimey, what about installation costs then? | :45:14. | :45:20. | |
It costs quite a bit to put internet access throughout the whole hotel | :45:20. | :45:24. | |
but it costs a lot to put flushing toilets in too. There you have it, | :45:24. | :45:29. | |
5p per room per night. No wonder Sinclair can afford to provide it | :45:29. | :45:34. | |
for free. Like other hotels, including the Langham, | :45:34. | :45:40. | |
and all Best Western hotels. Why don't the rest follow suit? Here | :45:40. | :45:45. | |
an even bigger mystery. Why do some chains charge you one price in some | :45:45. | :45:51. | |
of their hotels, but a in others? Take Crowne Plaza. | :45:51. | :45:55. | |
wi-fi in your room at their Birmingham branch? That will be �5 | :45:55. | :45:59. | |
for the day, please. But stay at their St James London branch and | :45:59. | :46:06. | |
it's �10 a day. And if you are booked into their New Bridge Street | :46:06. | :46:10. | |
hotel a few minutes' walk away will be stung for �15.45 for the | :46:10. | :46:16. | |
same service from the same chain. It's a similar story with Holiday | :46:16. | :46:21. | |
Inn. Fancy their Poole hotel Bank Holiday? Internet access is | :46:21. | :46:26. | |
a day. A bargain compared to their Cheltenham branch where the daily | :46:26. | :46:31. | |
charge is �12. Call me cynical, I think these charges have something | :46:31. | :46:37. | |
to do with these things. Hotels to make a mint from guests who made | :46:37. | :46:43. | |
their calls from their bedside phones. But thanks to mobiles, not | :46:43. | :46:49. | |
many of us use them anymore. They've got to make up for lost profits | :46:49. | :46:53. | |
somehow. I am sure every hotel will deny that, of course. | :46:53. | :46:57. | |
some of them are coming up with more imaginative ways to get money from | :46:57. | :47:02. | |
us. Take Marriott. They not only charge for internet usage in their | :47:02. | :47:07. | |
rooms, they also slap on an additional cost per device. So, if | :47:07. | :47:14. | |
you want to connect on your laptop and phone, brace yourself for the | :47:14. | :47:18. | |
bill! What wheeze will they come up with next, hey? Internet access | :47:19. | :47:23. | |
as essential as a bed or a sink in a hotel today. My guests | :47:23. | :47:27. | |
function without it. Some take advantage of this. I think | :47:27. | :47:34. | |
that's short-sighted. I did find a good deal at Firmdale hotels, or | :47:34. | :47:38. | |
least I thought I had. You see, here they don't insist on you having to | :47:38. | :47:42. | |
pay for a whole day of access. Instead, they let you pay by the | :47:42. | :47:50. | |
minute. 30p a pop. Hold up, that means if I want to spend just one | :47:50. | :47:57. | |
hour online, it's going to cost me 18 quid! And are! | :47:57. | :48:01. | |
18 quid! And 18 quid! | :48:01. | :48:07. | |
OK a few responses. Holiday Inn Crowne Plaza do offer free wi-fi at | :48:07. | :48:13. | |
some hotels. Marriott told us the prices reflect the competition, | :48:13. | :48:16. | |
loyalty programme members get wi-fi for free and they say the | :48:16. | :48:19. | |
costs of providing access greater than we said in our film. | :48:19. | :48:24. | |
for the others, The Dorchester say their prices reflect the high level | :48:24. | :48:28. | |
of broadband service. The Sheraton's owners say they are looking at | :48:28. | :48:34. | |
offering free access in public areas and Firmdale say not all customers | :48:34. | :48:39. | |
use the service so they've chosen to charge rather than inflate the | :48:39. | :48:44. | |
prices. Thanks for been in touch about that story. Here | :48:44. | :48:48. | |
are a few more. Flight taxes have gone up, just in | :48:48. | :48:53. | |
time for the Easter break. How handy is that? British flyers already pay | :48:53. | :48:57. | |
the highest taxes in Europe but week's hike in air passenger | :48:57. | :49:04. | |
or APD, will add another 8% onto the cost of a ticket. As the duty is | :49:04. | :49:09. | |
loosely calculated on miles flown it means domestic passengers won't be | :49:09. | :49:13. | |
hit too hard but a family of four travelling to Florida will pay | :49:13. | :49:22. | |
total of �260. Airlines like Bosnia, Virgin - BA, have all condemned it | :49:22. | :49:29. | |
as a tax as a tax tourism. A family of four | :49:29. | :49:37. | |
flying to Australia by 2016 will be paying �500 in taxes. Strewth. | :49:37. | :49:41. | |
Feed a family of four for seven days Feed a family of four for seven days | :49:41. | :49:45. | |
for 50 quid. Not as easy as Sainsbury's made out. It launched | :49:45. | :49:49. | |
its cheap eating campaign last May, claiming you could serve up a total | :49:49. | :49:53. | |
of 84 meals for the specified amount but it didn't make clear those meals | :49:53. | :49:56. | |
provided just three quarters of a family's recommended calorie intake | :49:56. | :50:00. | |
and you would need to buy additional drinks and snacks to make up the | :50:00. | :50:05. | |
other 25%. Also, the �50 worth of goods didn't include store cupboard | :50:05. | :50:09. | |
ingredients that you needed to make the recommended meals. The | :50:09. | :50:13. | |
Advertising Standards Authority now banned the ads for being | :50:13. | :50:18. | |
misleading but Sainsbury's said they were providing nutritious, | :50:18. | :50:20. | |
cost-effective meals surprised by the judgment. | :50:20. | :50:26. | |
surprised too. Only 25% of my calories come from snacks? | :50:26. | :50:35. | |
B&Q, Britain's leading DIY chain, orange logo, green pledges about | :50:35. | :50:39. | |
helping the planet and recycling, but not so eco-friendly after | :50:39. | :50:42. | |
say environmental groups. They've criticised the chain for increasing | :50:42. | :50:48. | |
the amount of peat in its own brand top soil and say draining peat bogs | :50:48. | :50:52. | |
not only threatens wildlife habitats, it releases carbon | :50:52. | :51:00. | |
the atmosphere. As the biggest seller of top soil, accuses B&Q of | :51:00. | :51:07. | |
setting a bad example. B&Q admit it contains peat but that doesn't | :51:07. | :51:14. | |
explain the website's promise to try to eliminate peat altogether. | :51:14. | :51:16. | |
Final call for Buildline Landscapes Final call for Buildline Landscapes | :51:16. | :51:20. | |
of north London now, not to confused with companies of similar | :51:20. | :51:26. | |
Chris Marino is his name. He took Chris Marino is his name. He took | :51:27. | :51:30. | |
our money, more than he should, and even when he said he wouldn't. | :51:30. | :51:34. | |
Meanwhile, our garden got sliced and diced and our stuff was stashed, all | :51:34. | :51:41. | |
when we weren't looking. And he charges more than Cheggers, talking | :51:41. | :51:47. | |
of which, come on. Keith, you can knock off now. Cheers. You remember | :51:48. | :51:52. | |
I told you Trading Standards made Marino sign an undertaking not | :51:52. | :51:55. | |
rip people off anymore? Yeah. With that came a suspended prison | :51:55. | :51:59. | |
sentence. If he carries on doing what he is doing, that's where he | :51:59. | :52:04. | |
likely to end up, behind bars. didn't he overcharge us, do | :52:04. | :52:09. | |
rubbish job and take money from without asking? Exactly. We've | :52:09. | :52:13. | |
called Marino out to garden in Enfield, north London. He | :52:13. | :52:18. | |
is now on his way to give us a quote for work. Which costs �12, of | :52:18. | :52:21. | |
course, but we are not really interested in the quote. What we are | :52:21. | :52:25. | |
interested in doing is Marino what could be a vision of his | :52:25. | :52:30. | |
future. And this is the vision. Remember what I said about that | :52:30. | :52:34. | |
suspended prison sentence? Well, he continues taking people's money | :52:35. | :52:37. | |
without permission, it could an actual one, so we thought we | :52:37. | :52:44. | |
would get him used to the idea. We've brought this lot in to help | :52:44. | :52:49. | |
with our garden tidy-up, just as boss of Buildline Landscapes | :52:49. | :52:54. | |
arrives. It's Chris Marino, isn't it? This is the garden, as you can | :52:54. | :52:59. | |
see it's a bit tired looking. Looks in quite good condition. I was | :52:59. | :53:03. | |
thinking of having that rounded. Here comes our chain gang, ready to | :53:03. | :53:13. | |
:53:13. | :53:30. | ||
start work. . | :53:30. | :53:32. | |
All right, Chris, here is a bit of a All right, Chris, here is a bit of a | :53:32. | :53:35. | |
vision for you. If you carry on the way you are going, that's the sort | :53:35. | :53:43. | |
of thing you could end up doing, a bit of gardening at Her Majesty's | :53:43. | :53:50. | |
pleasure. Matt from Rogue Traders, as I think you may be aware. | :53:50. | :53:53. | |
have taken the money out of our account without our author, it was | :53:53. | :53:59. | |
supposed to be 50% down, 50% when it was finished. You took the lot out. | :53:59. | :54:03. | |
She authorised it. No, she didn't and we have records of you | :54:03. | :54:08. | |
that previously. That was the undertaking, you did exactly what | :54:08. | :54:12. | |
Trading Standards asked you not You are going to end up in | :54:12. | :54:15. | |
You have already had a suspended sentence for doing this. | :54:15. | :54:19. | |
stripes? No, I don't. What you saying is absolutely correct, I did | :54:19. | :54:22. | |
receive a two-year suspended service, through the civil courts, | :54:22. | :54:27. | |
not the criminal courts, and since then we've adhered to do everything | :54:27. | :54:32. | |
correctly to that undertaking. What you've said is nonsense. That's | :54:32. | :54:40. | |
your opinion. When we have it on film, Matt from the BBC, we have on | :54:40. | :54:44. | |
film that the work your guy did was terrible. He ended up hiding bits of | :54:44. | :54:48. | |
plastic around the garden. Come you know that's not accurate. It's | :54:48. | :54:54. | |
on tape. You managed to charge an hour for Lawrence's time. Do you | :54:54. | :54:59. | |
want me to write the figures down for you? He doesn't even come with | :54:59. | :55:04. | |
his own wheelbarrow. For nearly 45 minutes Chris tries to defend his | :55:04. | :55:08. | |
actions. I really don't see what we've done wrong, honestly, hand on | :55:08. | :55:13. | |
heart, we've done nothing here. It was clear there was no | :55:13. | :55:18. | |
getting through to Chris Marino. Time to call it a day. You can | :55:18. | :55:21. | |
on standing here. You've got the allegations, if you want to come | :55:21. | :55:25. | |
back to us you know exactly where we are but we are finished here. All | :55:25. | :55:35. | |
:55:35. | :55:36. | ||
done. Bye. Bye-bye, Chris. See you later. That's Chris Marino of | :55:36. | :55:41. | |
Buildline, and there's not much I can add to that because it's | :55:41. | :55:46. | |
pretty encyclopaedic. Well, Chris Marino still denies our allegations | :55:46. | :55:51. | |
but points out that he didn't do the work and that if he had known we | :55:51. | :55:54. | |
were still unhappy he would have things right. He says he has | :55:54. | :55:56. | |
been pleased with Lawrence's previous work and that it was | :55:56. | :56:00. | |
mistake that some of the money was asked for twice. He says he has been | :56:00. | :56:04. | |
responsive to Jenny's complaints and has offered her some of the | :56:04. | :56:09. | |
back and he will decide whether we will get any money back once he has | :56:09. | :56:16. | |
seen the programme. Well, evening Chris. You can see yourself on our | :56:16. | :56:20. | |
rogue's gallery. Thanks, Matt. A big reaction to our | :56:20. | :56:25. | |
story on gyms. Lots of you are saying you weren't given terms and | :56:25. | :56:30. | |
conditions before signing up and loads are saying it was difficult | :56:30. | :56:38. | |
cancel. The problems on the iPhone, Kurt says it keeps calling him | :56:38. | :56:48. | |
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"curious". A lot of love in for Cheggers tonight too. | :56:48. | :56:52. | |
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