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Halifax and Santander - are they charging you more? Is Vauxhall

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giving you less? Plus, Boots, Odeon, Argos and Ariel - it is Watchdog,

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the programme you cannot afford to Yes, hello and good evening.

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Welcome to Watchdog. We are live from Television Centre. Tonight,

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Halifax, Santander, small cuts in mortgage rates, but huge rises in

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fees. Don't get caught out. It's quite deceptive and for people

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struggling already, they then are hit by these big charges.

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Also, Vauxhall, Ford, Renault - spare tyres no longer included.

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Plus Thomson getting customers' names wrong and making those same

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customers pay the price. And shrinking once, shrinking twice -

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Ariel does it again. Forget about shrinking, it is

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expansion we are into. An expansion vessel to be exact. This plumber

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broke the one on our boiler and then overcharged us for a

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replacement. A nasty surprise. So we thought we would give his boss a

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bit of a shock. Matt Allwright, BBC Rogue Traders. It is interesting...

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Can you leave? The company is called ERS Nationwide Limited and

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it is run by Jazz! Tonight it is time for him to face the music.

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First, Halifax and Santander, two mortgage lenders who signed up to a

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scheme to make home loans cheaper. Watch out. They have cut rates but

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their arrangement fees have rocketed.

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When the "credit crunch" struck in 2008, lending froze. It was

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impossible to get a mortgage. High interest rates and the banks were

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reluctant to take risks and it has kept the housing market in the

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doldrums ever since. Now, the eye- catching deals are back. You can

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get a loan at rates below 3%. Good value. There is a catch. Mortgage

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interest rates have tumbled since 2008, but since then, the average

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mortgage arrangement fee has soared by 70%. This is despite 13 banks

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and building societies all joining the Funding for Lending Scheme,

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which is supposed to make mortgages more affordable. Since the Bank of

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England launched it in August, some lenders have upped some of their

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fees again. While the Halifax offers a two-year mortgage with

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interest fixed, you will have to pay �1,995 in fees. Santander have

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slashed their five-year mortgage deal from 3.79% to 3.19%. But they

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have raised their fee by a third leaving buyers with a �1,495 bill.

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Which means that although some lenders say they are trying to make

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it easy for us to buy, it is just as difficult as it's ever been.

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First-time buyer Vicky Gray is struggling. We see a lot of lower

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rates trying toen ties you in. We don't see any benefit from it. When

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you've got a deposit to think about, you have to set aside another

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couple of thousands of pounds in fees. These fees go by lots of

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different names. Some lenders charge an arrangement fee. Others a

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product fee. Booking fee. Completion fee. Administration fee.

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But whatever they are called, does anyone know what they are for? Tell

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me what you think about arrangement fees? Well, they are costly.

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seem to pay lots of money for not a lot. It is another hidden cost.

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guess it is administration. It seems to be particularly high if

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all they are doing is extending your mortgage or adding to it.

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charge a lot for all of those things that don't seem to take time

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or effort. It is not surprising that buyers are so confused what

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these fees are for. The lenders are so vague. Look at some of the

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explanations. From Santander - by choosing a product with a booking

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fee you will normally secure a lower monthly payment during the

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benefit period. Normally doesn't mean always. Lower - how much

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lower? You will notice they don't tell you what they do for this fee.

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So let's try NatWest instead. Well, not much joy here. They tell us

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that lenders sometimes charge arrangement fees, also sometimes

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known as product fees, for setting up a mortgage. Thanks for that(!)

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When you consider that in August and September alone the average fee

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for taking out a mortgage increased by �42, you would expect there to

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be some form of explanation. But if the banks and building societies

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aren't being clear about what we are getting in return, we need to

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speak to somebody who can. Like Claire Francis from the financial

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services comparison site MoneySupermarket. They will run

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credit checks and there is paperwork involved. There is an

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element of cost. We have seen fees increase so much over recent years

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that it's becoming harder to justify how the fee is

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representative of the cost of the administration involved. Actually,

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what the fee is being used as now it is almost a pricing lever and a

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way for lenders to be able to have greater flexibility in what rate

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they offer because if they offer a lower interest rate, they can hike

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their fee a bit so it doesn't cost them any more to offer that

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mortgage. So generally speaking, the lower the rate, the higher the

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fee. And this isn't a one-off payment. Every time you want to

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change your mortgage, it is likely you will have to pay a fee again

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and the average person changes their mortgage once every seven

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years. Because people don't tend to factor in the impact of the fee,

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they are led by the headline rate and they ignore the fee and they

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ignore the fact that one product could have a �1,500 arrangement fee

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and another could have a �500 fee. So I think that is where

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potentially it can catch people out when the lenders talk about the

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fact they are cutting their mortgage rates. So if you want to

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avoid being stung, you need to work out what's cheaper - a high

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interest mortgage with a low fee, or a low interest mortgage with a

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high fee. There can be a big difference. Ask Oxford University

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maths genius Dr Kitt Yates. have two options. They are both

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fixed for two years. So your first option from lender A is an eye-

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catching low 2.44% mortgage but it does have a hefty arrangement fee

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of �1,995. Your second option from lender B is a higher rate of 2.99%

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but there is no arrangement fee. However, once you have factored in

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the fee, and worked out the true cost like this, so lender A had the

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lower rate, but once you factor in the fee from lender A and done the

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maths, it turns out that you end up spending �1,320.84 on lender A's

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mortgage than lender B's over the course of two years.

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differences aren't so clear-cut. It may take most of us a little longer

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to work out which is best. But the lesson is clear - before being

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tempted by a low rate, check the fees and do your sums.

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The Council of Mortgage Lenders say there is a distinction between

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charges that relate to administration and other charges.

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Santander and Halifax say that by charging these fees, they can offer

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a greater range of deals. They say that some customers do prefer to

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pay a higher upfront fee in return for a lower interest rate and lower

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monthly repayment. If you would like to comment on that, you can

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send an e-mail to [email protected]. Or send a text.

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Dial 83199. If you want to get involved in the discussion, our

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address are on your screens now. Have you bought a new car recently?

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Mind you don't have a blowout! In all it's taken 25 minutes for me

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to understand this bit of kit and although it's taken the sealant

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into the tyre, it has not fixed the problem. Now, we do like it when we

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find rogues with a musical connection. It means (a) a great

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soundtrack and (b) some terrible puns. Last series we had a team of

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gardeners called the Smiths causing panic on the streets of Kent. You

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see, I can't help it! We are featuring someone whose very name

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Jazz! Dictionary definition - a musical style that originated at

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the beginning of the 20th Century in the southern United States. My

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definition - the freedom to do as you please, to improvise, to take a

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piece of pipe in your hand and make something magical happen.

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Freestyling! You can get rich as a result! Jazz is also the name of

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the plumbing company boss we are featuring tonight. OK, it's a bit

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tenuous. Sarah Dunn doesn't like Jazz. She is more a Coldplay fan.

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She is not keen on Jazzdeep Randhawa Singh. Sarah had a DIY SOS.

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This is the picture that started it all? Yes, we finished decorating

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the lounge. My husband was putting some photos up of the children and

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he put a nail through the central heating pipe. Let's put that to one

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side. You ended up with wet carpets? Yeah. And needing to get

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it sorted as quickly as possible? Yeah. A big problem. But easy to

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fix. Not for ERS. You see, none of the pipes the engineer brought with

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him fitted. The part we are talking about is just a standard pipe

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that... It was a basic standard pipe. That seems strange. Yes.

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meant that ERS couldn't fix the fault that evening so they had to

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come back the next day with the right pipe. They hit Sarah with a

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bill for �274 but that wasn't the end of it. They couldn't get the

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central heating working at that point. They said they could get

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their central heating engineer out and that would be �65 an hour plus

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VAT. We were quite concerned they wanted to charge us more money and

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the costs were going up all the time. So concerned that she called

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the boss. So was Jazz laid-back, chilled out, maybe mellow? He said

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if we didn't pay immediately, we would incur further charges, that

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he would send debt collectors out and the police. He then hung up on

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me and phoned the plumber and asked him to remove the pipe from the

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wall that he had just fitted. At that point, we decided to pay

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because we just wanted them out. Sarah got a new plumber in. He

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found the problem within 30 minutes and charged just �50 to get the

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central heating going. I'm going to see another chap now, another

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customer of ERS. OK. You don't need to know that necessarily. But I'm

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going. Thank you, Sarah. That other chap is based all the way over in

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King's Lynn. His name is David Meek. When his boiler stopped working,

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his usual plumber was on holiday so he found ERS in the Yellow Pages.

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Hello. Hello. They sent a plumber called Jerry. He checked the fuse

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box and he then said, "We have some problems there." He said we needed

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a new fan. Dave paid a deposit of �740 and the fan was fitted, but

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the boiler still didn't work. So he called Jazz. Dave, he said, it's

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going to be costly. "We want three more parts for the boiler and they

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are going to come to �650. I tell you what, we'll forget the �740 and

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we will come and fit you a new heating system in." Hold on a

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second! So they have not got it right when it is just fitting your

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fan? No. Now they are suggesting gutting your house and putting in a

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completely new heating system? Right. When Dave's usual plumber

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looked at the boiler he came to a different conclusion to Jazz. The

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heating wasn't working because the fan had been wired wrongly. That

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sounds like a bodged job? Very much so, yes. I'm glad I didn't see it.

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No. I wish I hadn't! It sounds almost as though what we need is a

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house with lots of tiny cameras, an expert and an actor. Yes. That is

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how you roll! It is indeed how we roll! Yeah, we are not fibbing.

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Look, it is a house with a boiler and a team of rogue investigators.

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We are going to set up a job for ERS and Jazz! Nice! Had to come.

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Well, the job's not only nice, it is very simple, very cheap and

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should be very quick. Will it be? I wonder.

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Next, Ford, Vauxhall, Nissan, Renault, Fiat - nearly all the

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best-selling car brands in Britain. Have you bought one lately? Notice

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something missing? You need to look before it is too late. Throughout

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generations of motoring, drivers have had one constant companion -

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if you have ever been unlucky enough to have a flat, you could

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open the boot, safe in the knowledge it contained a spare tyre

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to get you back on the road. Times and cars are changing. Like the

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good old cassette player, the spare tyre is becoming a thing of the

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past. Almost all car manufacturers have decided to stop supplying them.

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So if you have bought a new car in the last few years, then check your

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boot. The chances are you will find it empty. Robert Griffiths did that

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on New Year's Day. Just after he felt one of his tyres go on a

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journey towards Sheffield. The car starts to vibrate, so I'm getting a

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bit concerned, so I start to pull over and I realise that I've got a

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problem. But instead of a spare, Robert's 2010 Vauxhall was fitted

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with a do it yourself repair kit complete with sealant. The tyre had

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been shredded. In fact, if I had a spare tyre, it would have taken me

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15 minutes to change. How long did it take you without a spare tyre?

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Two-and-a-half hours. Why? Well, once I had established the kit

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wouldn't work, I had to get on to the rescue services. They take an

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hour to come out. They had to call a rescue vehicle out so that my

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vehicle could be carried away home. Such stories are becoming familiar.

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Recently, the rescue service Green Flag said the number of callouts to

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drivers stranded has leapt by 20%. Like Robert, the new cars were

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fitted with a repair kit instead of a spare. So this is a typical kit.

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You have your electric pump which connects to the see last night,

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which you have got to connect -- sealant, which you have got to

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connect to the valve of your tyre. It pushes the sealant in inflating

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the tyre and sealing the puncture. That is the theory. Let's put it to

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practice. I know how it is supposed to work, but I have never tried it

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before. To make it easier for myself, I am using a punctured

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wheel that is not attached to a car. This bottle of sealant has to be

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upside-down. Plug it in. What is that? I don't understand what that

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is! I put it on for two minutes. Then off for ten minutes? Let's do

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it! So I think it needs to get to two before we activate it. In spite

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of my best efforts, no sealant entered the tyre. Time for not

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tactic. I use this bit of kit to poke the entrance where the sealant

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comes out of so let's try it again. It is all disappearing. That bottle

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of sealant is now empty, so it's been pumped into the tyre. I will

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switch this off now. Let's have a look. So, in all, it's taken 25

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minutes for me to understand this bit of kit and although it's taken

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the sealan in, it has not fixed the problem. Imagine what it would be

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like if it was raining now, trying to do all of this would be tough. I

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tell you what, give me a spare tyre and a jack any day. And according

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to one of the biggest breakdown organisations, I'm not alone.

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have over 80,000 callouts a year for people who have no spare tyres.

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We have limited success with the sealant kits. In some cases, where

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the tyre is damaged, we are unable to use the kit. It is up to us to

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source the tyre. The kit will only repair tyres with small punctures.

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If you have side-wall damage, it won't work. It is very limited to

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what you can do with it. Even when the kit does what it is supposed to,

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you still may end up paying. When Tom Watkins had a flat on his

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brand-new Vauxhall Corsa, he used the sealant. When his dad asked the

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dealer to carry out a simple repair, the answer was no. They couldn't

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wash the sealant out and look at repairing the tyre. I wasn't very

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happy. It wasn't like a major puncture. It could have been

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repaired. I have forked out �13,000 and now I have to fork out for a

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brand-new tyre! Other drivers are getting similar bills. Whilst some

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repair kits are soluable, -- soluble, and more and more

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carmakers are getting rid of the spare. Of the top ten best-selling

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models, only the VW Golf and Polo came with spare tyres.

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Manufacturers want to make their cars lighter because it improves

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the fuel economy. There are lots of ways of making cars lighter. Some

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make them out of aluminium. Others re-design seats. For the drivers

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who have contacted us, such alternatives would be better,

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especially as Britain's roads are likely to deteriorate further

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during the coming winter. It is a simple solution - let's have a

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spare tyre back. With me now from the UK Society of Motor

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Manufacturers and Traders is Paul Everitt. When did you decide that

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none of us wanted spare tyres any more? I would challenge that that

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is what has happened. What is true is that there are a variety of

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safety systems available to deal with punctures. A traditional spare

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tyre is available. It is available on the majority of vehicles. But

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there are a number of other alternatives. You have identified

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the safety kit. We have space-saver tyres. Or we have run-flat tyres

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and self-sealing tyres. All of these are options that are

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available to the consumer. Underpinning all of that in the

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majority of cases, the vehicle manufacturer provides in the new

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car package and their warranty guarantee roadside assistance. In

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the event there is a problem, the consumer is taken care of one way

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or another. I have been driving since I was 17. I have no idea that

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I was not going to get a spare tyre with my new car. You didn't come

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and ask me? Well, that is true. I didn't come and ask you. What is

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true - and the film highlights three important points - things do

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change. When you are specifying your vehicle, you should be paying

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attention to what you are specifying. If you want a

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traditional spare tyre, then that is what you should be asking for.

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But I would say that a lot of people actually do find the repair

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kits more practical because the idea of being on a cold, windy, wet

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traffic verge trying to change a wheel is equally as scary. So for

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them, a repair kit provides them with a better option. Now, clearly,

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what is important is that the consumer firstly understands what

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that safety system is. I have to interrupt you. I have a new car

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arriving in November, not till this afternoon did I ring and discover

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that it is not coming with a spare tyre, and there is no room for one.

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So consumers don't know about it. They also are going to find that

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these kits are very unsatisfactory. If your tyre is shredded, they are

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no use. They are very fiddly. I don't want one on a main road. When

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you take your tyre to a garage, they don't want to repair one

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that's used a sealant? There are a range of issues there. Choice is

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important and people should understand what they are buying.

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Secondly, I think any puncture is inconvenient at the very least. I

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think the two circumstances you highlighted, it was exacerbated by

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the fact that what they were expecting to see wasn't there and

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again that comes with this is a complex and expensive product. We

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would expect people to have checked as to exactly how the safety

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systems work... Really? I hadn't checked. Am I wrong not to have

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checked? No. That is one of the highlights, or the advantage of

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being able to talk about this issue. It's to bring to the public

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attention there are questions and responsibilities on both sides and

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I'm sure - if you look... Do you mind there's 20% increase from

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Green Flag of people not having spare tyres, their rate has gone,

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20% more people are needing their help, are stranded because they

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find they don't have a spare tyre? Do you mind that? I would argue

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that they have a safety system in their vehicle to help them if they

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have a puncture. Now, it's a reasonable point. We have to stop

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you there. Those people need to ensure that we understand the

:24:29.:24:33.

vehicles that we are driving. you.

:24:33.:24:37.

A full statement from the SMMT is on our website. Now you may

:24:37.:24:43.

remember a couple of weeks ago a smooth, devilishly handsome man

:24:43.:24:48.

explaining how a certain clothes washing liquid had shrunk. Take a

:24:48.:24:58.
:24:58.:24:59.

look at this. Ariel with Actilift. Now it's gone down to 925ml. Can

:24:59.:25:03.

you tell the difference? If you put them side by side, they are

:25:03.:25:10.

virtually the same. As you can see, just over one litre there and 925ml

:25:10.:25:14.

there. Even though the volume inside is less.

:25:15.:25:17.

Good, wasn't he? Who?

:25:17.:25:21.

I'm still waiting for George! Ariel is back. That is because

:25:21.:25:25.

after shrinking it once, Procter & Gamble have done it again. Reducing

:25:25.:25:30.

the contents to 888ml. It is now good for 24 washes instead of the

:25:30.:25:38.

28 it said on the old bottle. And 25 washes specified on the 925ml

:25:38.:25:42.

bottle. Once more, they have been very clever with the packaging. It

:25:42.:25:44.

doesn't look like it's changed at all.

:25:44.:25:48.

What about the price? No, that hasn't changed either. Nor

:25:48.:25:52.

has Procter & Gamble's position. Once again, they are blaming rising

:25:52.:25:57.

commodity costs for this latest content reduction. They say the new

:25:57.:25:58.

volume is clearly identified on the pack.

:25:58.:26:03.

The price stays the same. But what it doesn't say is this. These two

:26:03.:26:08.

reductions mean you are paying 5p more per wash than you used to!

:26:08.:26:15.

Next, Argos. More than 700 stores, a 1,700-page catalogue, a website,

:26:15.:26:19.

TV ads, even its own TV channel, so many ways of tempting us, so many

:26:19.:26:29.
:26:29.:26:31.

ways of getting it wrong. You know how it works - you order

:26:31.:26:34.

your item, you wait for it to appear and then you collect it at

:26:34.:26:39.

the desk. Shopping at Argos is a novel experience, made more fun

:26:39.:26:44.

when you save money with one of their numerous special offers. I

:26:44.:26:49.

say "special" but according to some of you, bagging that bargain isn't

:26:49.:26:57.

as easy as they make it look. Meet Christine Carr, a few months ago

:26:57.:27:05.

she got an e-mail offering up to 60% off all indoor furniture.

:27:05.:27:10.

60% off deal was amazing. It was perfect. Having just moved into a

:27:10.:27:14.

new home, it was wonderful. I had been looking for some book cases to

:27:14.:27:18.

fit my dining room. It just all fell into place perfectly. At least

:27:18.:27:24.

it would have fallen into place if the deal had turned out to be real.

:27:24.:27:29.

I tried to order some book cases online, found out they weren't

:27:29.:27:33.

included in the deal. They weren't reduced at all. It was selected

:27:33.:27:38.

lines only. It was a real let down to find out they weren't included.

:27:38.:27:42.

I think they need to drastically rethink their marketing strategies.

:27:42.:27:48.

They shouldn't be deceiving their customers in this way especially

:27:48.:27:52.

people like myself that don't have a large budget to spend on

:27:52.:27:57.

furniture. So, that deal wasn't quite what it seemed. How about

:27:57.:28:02.

this one? Half price on selected outdoor toys. And the one I want is

:28:02.:28:08.

featured in the banner itself. I should have no problems getting

:28:08.:28:12.

these rollerskates. Right? Wrong. The rollerskates are nowhere to be

:28:12.:28:17.

seen when you click on the banner. Look elsewhere on the website, and

:28:17.:28:25.

you will find them with only a �3 reduction. Nowhere near half price.

:28:25.:28:30.

That's just one example of sale banners not delivering on what they

:28:30.:28:37.

seem to be offering. In fact, we found nine other instances, so can

:28:37.:28:43.

Argos be accused of misleading customers? Not only is this

:28:43.:28:48.

misleading because the actual offer doesn't exist, it's an untruth, so

:28:48.:28:52.

it is not truthful advertising. So that is much worse than being

:28:52.:28:56.

misleading. OK. No luck so far in enjoying life for less. What if I

:28:56.:29:01.

know that the item that I really want is definitely in the sale

:29:01.:29:07.

promoted? Surely then I can get my hands on it? Not always. In

:29:07.:29:13.

December last year, the Advertising Standards Authority found Argos

:29:13.:29:17.

offering this toy at half price when they had insufficient stock to

:29:17.:29:21.

meet demand. They continued to advertise when it was sold out.

:29:21.:29:25.

Eight months later, they were caught at it again, this time

:29:25.:29:30.

offering a camera for sale when there were none in stock. So with

:29:30.:29:35.

the advertising regulators ruling against them not once but twice,

:29:35.:29:40.

surely we can believe what they are telling us? I think we better check

:29:40.:29:50.
:29:50.:29:54.

it out. This is Elaine. In August, she found this offer for a happy

:29:54.:30:03.

land toy rocket. A great deal and something her daughter would love.

:30:03.:30:08.

I went online, saw it advertised. Then decided to see where it was in

:30:08.:30:12.

stock. There is nowhere in stock, so I have checked all the local

:30:12.:30:16.

stores and ten are out of stock. I checked up in Yorkshire because we

:30:16.:30:20.

have family up there and we were visiting last week. It was out of

:30:20.:30:23.

stock there, too. It's happened to me before. Friends have mentioned

:30:23.:30:27.

it happens to them all the time. It is like when they have these offers

:30:27.:30:34.

on, they don't have the stock to give it to the people at that price.

:30:34.:30:37.

We phoned Argos and they said it was out of stock throughout the

:30:37.:30:42.

country. As was this, the Jamie Oliver three-burner gas barbecue

:30:42.:30:50.

with a price reduced to �159.99. Unfortunately, it was also out of

:30:50.:30:54.

stock. Argos told us they didn't know when they will be getting any

:30:54.:30:59.

more. So there you go. All-inclusive

:30:59.:31:03.

sales that don't include everything. Banners advertising goods that

:31:03.:31:07.

aren't included in the sale they are promoting. Special offers that

:31:07.:31:13.

are not in stock. So, the next time you see a special offer at Argos,

:31:13.:31:23.
:31:23.:31:24.

be warned - you could be waiting some time. Argos says it is

:31:25.:31:28.

concerned that some customers are unhappy at the way it presents

:31:28.:31:31.

promotions. It refutes there is a company policy to mislead. It has

:31:31.:31:35.

apologised for excluding a product from an all-inclusive sale blaming

:31:35.:31:40.

human error. The wording on the banner ad was legal but it accepts

:31:40.:31:45.

it may not have been completely clear. It appreciates customers can

:31:45.:31:49.

get frustrated when sale goods are no longer available and says it is

:31:49.:31:52.

making efforts to ensure future promotions don't continue once

:31:52.:31:55.

stocks run out. Still to come: They make the

:31:55.:32:01.

mistakes, you pay the price. Thanks, Thomson(!)

:32:01.:32:08.

ERS short for Emergency Repair Services Nationwide. JRS short for

:32:08.:32:15.

Jazzdeep Randhawa Singh who runs it. AHEB short for actor, house, expert

:32:15.:32:20.

and boiler. RT - short for roll tape!

:32:20.:32:24.

Let's ditch the acronyms. Here is the house, here is the actor, the

:32:24.:32:29.

expert, Mike, he is setting a fault on the boiler so what is the fault?

:32:29.:32:34.

I'm going to use the pressure relief valve to reduce the pressure

:32:34.:32:38.

so the boiler fails to operate. There is a red light which will

:32:38.:32:42.

tell ERS what the problem is because it flashes. If that is not

:32:42.:32:47.

enough, we have provided an extra clue, a leaking pipe outside the

:32:47.:32:52.

boiler room. What would a competent plumber do? They would check to see

:32:52.:32:56.

there is no obvious places where there is a leak. That is because

:32:56.:33:00.

the leak shows there is something wrong with the pressure relief

:33:00.:33:04.

valve? It is cheap and easy to do. I don't see why it should take very

:33:05.:33:10.

long. Mike goes and hides upstairs, leaving the on the blink boiler

:33:10.:33:16.

downstairs and now ERS are on the front stairs, or steps. Hello.

:33:16.:33:26.
:33:26.:33:27.

Laszlo, your friendly neighbourhood plumber. He is from Hungary. Jim

:33:27.:33:32.

points Laszlo towards the boiler and leaves him to it. The same

:33:32.:33:36.

boiler with the flashing red light alerting all good plumbers to the

:33:36.:33:43.

problem with water pressure. Seems to have passed this plumber by,

:33:43.:33:53.
:33:53.:33:58.

though. He looks lost. The clue is on the front, a flashing red light,

:33:58.:34:08.
:34:08.:34:16.

The cylinder? OK. After missing the flashing light, Laszlo asks to go

:34:16.:34:26.
:34:26.:34:35.

You see, that is not a lot of pipes. This is a lot of pipes! However

:34:35.:34:39.

many there are, they have confused him. He is not doing much better

:34:39.:34:43.

back at the boiler. He is struggling. He is touching things

:34:43.:34:50.

all the time. No constructive diagnostics. OK, maybe the boss can

:34:50.:34:54.

help him with some constructive diagnostics. He is on the line to

:34:54.:34:58.

Jazz, several times in fact, now he is talking to the head engineer in

:34:58.:35:07.

his native language. Maybe he is Hungarian, too? Time for a quick

:35:07.:35:16.

fag break, I presume? Yeah. After all that talking, it's left him

:35:16.:35:21.

gasping, or is it because he is charging us �90 an hour? The thing

:35:21.:35:31.
:35:31.:35:33.

is, you can get a lot done in an hour. OK, seeing as Laszlo still

:35:34.:35:37.

hasn't managed to iron out our boiler problem, it is time for our

:35:37.:35:43.

actor to give him a nudge. Our producer sends a message to his

:35:43.:35:53.
:35:53.:36:02.

Hello? Laszlo's missed the earlier smaller clue so now what is known

:36:02.:36:09.

as a dead giveaway! Is it anything to do with that? Yeah, I think.

:36:09.:36:13.

It is the bleeding obvious! It would be OK if he did something

:36:13.:36:17.

about it. But he doesn't. He goes back inside, takes a screwdriver

:36:17.:36:21.

out and uses it on a part of the boiler that has been working just

:36:21.:36:27.

fine. He's interfered with the expansion vessel. Letting the

:36:27.:36:30.

pressure out of it and making it look like the system pressure is

:36:30.:36:37.

too high. He seems to be breaking it. Now, we are going to have to

:36:37.:36:41.

pay for a new expansion vessel, which we don't need in the first

:36:41.:36:46.

place. There is nothing wrong with it. Once it's regassed, it will

:36:46.:36:56.
:36:56.:37:12.

work perfectly. Not according to That's the one, Jim. It won't be

:37:12.:37:22.

cheap to fix. The cost he's put down for the parts is far over what

:37:22.:37:27.

you would take as being reasonable charging for a reasonable profit

:37:27.:37:31.

margin. And there is more bad news to come. They won't be able to get

:37:31.:37:41.
:37:41.:37:45.

hold of the part for another 24 Is the part really that difficult

:37:45.:37:55.
:37:55.:37:56.

to find? Cue that familiar music. Hello, would you have an expansion

:37:56.:38:02.

vessel for a boiler? You do? How much is it? Just �92? I'll take it!

:38:03.:38:12.
:38:13.:38:30.

Oh, my name? It's JR Hartley. Over # I've been waiting

:38:30.:38:37.

# All this time for you. # Where have they been? It is under

:38:38.:38:47.
:38:48.:38:48.

an hour. Is that what you want? Yes! Despite what ERS told us, we

:38:48.:38:56.

managed to find three within one hour's drive of our house, all

:38:56.:39:00.

between �92�135. This job has definitely expanded! Yes, our faith

:39:00.:39:04.

in ERS Nationwide Limited to do it has contracted, especially as

:39:04.:39:08.

Laszlo is about to suffer an identity crisis. He will be talking

:39:08.:39:12.

a whole load more boilers later. Right now, feels like someone else

:39:12.:39:18.

has put the heating on! This is nice.

:39:18.:39:21.

Wonderful. On holiday with you. A dream come true(!)

:39:21.:39:26.

You can put some cream on my back later. Now, it is quite warm here

:39:26.:39:36.
:39:36.:39:37.

on the Watchdog beach, but Thomson have been making mistakes and

:39:37.:39:44.

demanding their customers pay for them. Brian Dinsdale and his wife

:39:44.:39:50.

booked a holiday to Gran Canaria. They noticed their names had been

:39:50.:39:55.

spelt wrongly - Mr and Mrs BINSdale. Easy to correct?

:39:55.:39:59.

First Choice said it would cost �100 to do it. If it wasn't

:39:59.:40:02.

corrected, the couple would lose their deposit. Even though it was

:40:02.:40:06.

the company's fault, it said they had to pay for the correction.

:40:06.:40:10.

This is a holiday outrage. It is. Here is another one

:40:10.:40:14.

involving Matt Brighton. Thomson spelt the name of one of his fellow

:40:14.:40:17.

passengers wrongly. Because he had also made a mistake on his booking

:40:17.:40:24.

form, it said he had to pay for all the corrections - �70.

:40:24.:40:27.

Thomson say? TUI, owners of Thomson and First

:40:27.:40:32.

Choice, says it is common industry practice for airlines to charge for

:40:32.:40:35.

amendments near departure time. Matt signed documents to confirm

:40:35.:40:38.

all the details were correct. As he contacted them about the error more

:40:38.:40:46.

than 14 days later, the standard charge applied. As the Dinsdales

:40:46.:40:50.

received their documents late, it has refunded their �100 and

:40:50.:40:53.

apologised. Here is another holiday company to

:40:53.:40:57.

look out for, On The Beach. If you have a complaint about them, the

:40:57.:41:02.

very best of luck! Cheap holidays booked online, but

:41:02.:41:05.

with all the protection you would expect from an established travel

:41:05.:41:09.

agent. At least that is what you think you are getting with On The

:41:09.:41:14.

Beach. According to our viewers, if you book with them, you might want

:41:14.:41:19.

to pack a few extra things, like a map to find a new hotel, something

:41:19.:41:24.

to clean your room with and even a spare pair of airline tickets, just

:41:24.:41:29.

in case. If you are going with On The Beach, you need to be prepared

:41:29.:41:37.

for anything. These two took their three daughters to Sharm el-Sheikh.

:41:37.:41:41.

It wasn't an ordinary family holiday. This was a two-week

:41:41.:41:48.

honeymoon and they paid more than � �2,300. We went to the reception

:41:48.:41:52.

desk to be shown to our room. We were told that we had to leave,

:41:52.:41:56.

that our reservation wasn't with that hotel. We had got paperwork in

:41:56.:42:01.

front of us saying otherwise and were asking this is just ridiculous,

:42:01.:42:04.

we have paid this money. Although On The Beach offered them another

:42:04.:42:09.

hotel, this was the one they had set their heart on, but they

:42:09.:42:12.

couldn't afford to. The hotel manager said if they were going to

:42:12.:42:16.

stay, it would cost them another �2,000. We received an e-mail

:42:16.:42:20.

telling us it was the booking agent's fault and they weren't

:42:20.:42:25.

going to take responsibility for it, but they would pass it on. So what

:42:25.:42:28.

makes On The Beach think they aren't responsible when things go

:42:28.:42:33.

wrong? They say it's because the trips they sell are not package

:42:33.:42:38.

holidays. While they do book your flights and accommodation, it is

:42:38.:42:42.

done through a range of separate third party booking agents. That

:42:42.:42:46.

means holiday-makers enter into contracts with those agents rather

:42:46.:42:50.

than On The Beach themselves. Problem is, you might not realise

:42:50.:42:54.

that when you book. That is because the information is buried away in

:42:54.:42:59.

the terms of business section on its website. Here you will discover

:42:59.:43:02.

that On The Beach accept no responsibility or liability for the

:43:02.:43:09.

acts or services provided by travel suppliers. As they don't sell

:43:09.:43:13.

packages, you are not covered by a crucial piece of protection, the

:43:13.:43:19.

Package Travel Regulations. They say the tour operator, the company

:43:19.:43:22.

that's organising your holiday, has complete responsibility for

:43:22.:43:25.

delivering that holiday from the moment you turn up at Manchester or

:43:25.:43:31.

Gatwick Airport to the moment you come home. If anything goes wrong,

:43:31.:43:36.

they are responsible. Contrast that with On The Beach and they will say

:43:36.:43:40.

no, we are only acting as an agent for these different companies. If

:43:40.:43:45.

anything goes wrong, you are on your own. Dealing with a middleman

:43:45.:43:49.

company can complicate the simplest request as Russell Hill found out.

:43:49.:43:52.

When he discovered his rowing club had won a place on the Thames

:43:52.:43:56.

Pageant, he asked On The Beach to postpone his holiday flight by 24

:43:56.:44:03.

hours. On The Beach wouldn't let me because they said the airline,

:44:03.:44:10.

their terms and conditions wouldn't allow me to do that. So I contacted

:44:10.:44:14.

the airline, they told me there was plenty of availability. They needed

:44:14.:44:18.

On The Beach to make the change for me. On The Beach failed to do that.

:44:18.:44:22.

Russell spent �1,000 on two separate flights just so that he

:44:22.:44:28.

could take his holiday. I was passed between on On The Beach,

:44:28.:44:32.

their booking agent and the airline and although the airline and the

:44:32.:44:35.

booking agent were happy to make the change, On The Beach blamed

:44:35.:44:39.

them for not wanting to make the change. All On The Beach had to do

:44:39.:44:42.

was say, yeah, that is fine. That was it. Job done. Instead, months

:44:42.:44:47.

and months of them not doing their job and I end up spending over

:44:47.:44:51.

�1,000. It is not all right. even if the flight goes according

:44:51.:44:55.

to plan and the hotel has a record of your reservation, you are still

:44:55.:45:00.

not necessarily in the clear. It seems On The Beach is not always

:45:00.:45:06.

bothered about the standard of the place they have booked you into.

:45:06.:45:11.

Just ask Sally Warren who took her daughters to kurky. This was how

:45:11.:45:16.

the hotel looked from the outside, but once inside... My eldest

:45:16.:45:24.

daughter burst into tears. She was appalled. Filthy dirty, no self-

:45:24.:45:28.

catering equipment. We had one chipped cup. The rest of the

:45:28.:45:34.

cupboards were empty. No patio furniture. Appalling electrics.

:45:34.:45:40.

Sockets hanging out of the wall. Light switches taped over. Dirty

:45:40.:45:45.

sheets. Broken furniture. Nothing pleasant about it whatsoever.

:45:45.:45:49.

thought On The Beach's credentials meant they would be safe to book

:45:49.:45:53.

with. We assumed it was a package. It's a tour company, you assume the

:45:53.:45:59.

whole lot is with them. Quite clearly states they are ABTA

:45:59.:46:03.

recognised. If you book a package holiday, you can be sure that the

:46:03.:46:07.

tour operator has sent someone round before the season starts to

:46:07.:46:10.

check a list of a hundred different things to make sure that it is safe

:46:10.:46:15.

for you. They will of course be responsible for delivering a decent

:46:15.:46:20.

standard of accommodation. But if you go through an online travel

:46:20.:46:23.

agent, which says we are only acting as an agent, then if there

:46:23.:46:26.

is something wrong with the accommodation, if it is not fit for

:46:27.:46:31.

human habitation, you are on your own. There are some things they

:46:31.:46:36.

can't blame others for, like using photos of the wrong hotel on their

:46:36.:46:42.

website. Tom booked the five-star Kos Imperial Hotel. When he arrived,

:46:42.:46:48.

staff had no idea who he was. On The Beach had booked him into the

:46:48.:46:54.

three-star Imperial Hotel in Kos Town, similar name, different hotel

:46:54.:46:59.

and definitely not five-star. On The Beach do offer cheap holidays,

:46:59.:47:04.

but they can come at a price. Leaving you with a dream holiday

:47:04.:47:11.

you can't wait to forget. On The Beach says customer

:47:11.:47:15.

satisfaction is of paramount importance. They have more than

:47:15.:47:19.

750,000 customers each year receiving satisfaction scores of

:47:19.:47:22.

over 95%. They stress that when booking with them your holiday and

:47:22.:47:28.

money is totally protected by the ATOL licence. Anyone happy with any

:47:28.:47:33.

part of their holiday, they must contact them or their suppliers

:47:33.:47:36.

whilst in resort. They say when they make mistakes, they accept it

:47:36.:47:40.

and offer full refunds. We are happy to report they have offered

:47:40.:47:44.

refunds to all the contributors featured.

:47:44.:47:51.

Good. That was only after Watchdog contacted them. Here is a few more

:47:51.:47:56.

stories. Heard the one about the organic

:47:56.:48:03.

baby wash that is more than 95% non-organic? Here it was on the

:48:03.:48:13.
:48:13.:48:15.

Boots website. It contained pear, mall low and Aloe vera. The

:48:16.:48:19.

Advertising Standards Authority found the total organics

:48:19.:48:29.
:48:29.:48:29.

ingredients came to less than 5%. The ASA said they shouldn't include

:48:29.:48:38.

the product in future promotions without a disclaimer.

:48:38.:48:45.

# I can't get no... # Tickets for the Rolling Stones'

:48:45.:48:53.

50th anniversary -- for the 50th anniversary gig next month. Well, I

:48:53.:48:59.

might be able to. Surprise to surprise, the fee includes hefty

:48:59.:49:09.
:49:09.:49:12.

booking fees. Still, the band aren't complaining as they are

:49:12.:49:16.

getting �16 million for their latest tour. Don't think

:49:16.:49:20.

Ticketmaster are doing too badly either!

:49:20.:49:25.

Odeon, two for one vouchers, valid every day from September 22nd to

:49:25.:49:31.

October 18th except the vouchers don't tell you certain blockbuster

:49:31.:49:36.

films are excluded, such as Taken 2, Madagascar 3 and Hotel Transylvania.

:49:36.:49:40.

Movie-goers complain they have been misled and they have taken to the

:49:40.:49:44.

internet to voice their anger. Odeon says the exclusions may not

:49:44.:49:47.

be on the voucher. If customers check the website, all is made

:49:48.:49:57.

clear, but why would you check the website? Ask Odeon.

:49:57.:50:06.

Final callout for ERS Nationwide Limited. Their plumber missed a

:50:06.:50:11.

boiler fault, he broke a perfect part, then said he couldn't get a

:50:11.:50:16.

replacement for 24 hours. He is on his way back now, in fact is that

:50:16.:50:26.
:50:26.:50:27.

him pulling up the driveway? Oh it is! It's, what's his name?

:50:27.:50:32.

Laszlo, remember that. He is two hours late, but at least he is

:50:32.:50:36.

working quicker than he was yesterday. Still, it takes him half

:50:36.:50:40.

an hour to fit the part, throw in yesterday's visit, that makes three.

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Remember, we are being charged by That can't be right. Jim is not

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having it. Can he speak to someone It is sack eventually. We didn't

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need it. ERS's total bill is 12 times what it should have cost to

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fix our fault. There is one last thing. Do you have a gas safety

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card? Yeah, yeah. Do you show it to me? Yeah. I thought your name was

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Your middle name is Laszlo, right? I can't take that at face value?

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The name on the gas safe card is Jerry for short. Is that Jerry?

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that is not him. Thanks. That has cleared that up. Laszlo lied. He

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showed us a gas safe card belonging to someone else, this man in fact.

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The Chief Engineer at ERS. This isn't right. This isn't legal. This

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isn't something I can tackle without time to think, somewhere to

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ponder and something very sweet with with with with with with with

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jam in the middle and sugar on top. So we have a gas fitter who is

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overcharging massively and using the gas safe card of another fitter.

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That's not the end of the world! is unacceptable, Val. The gas safe

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card is there to make sure that your gas fitter is safe to work on

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gas safely. Oh, I wondered what it was for. You need to ask a few

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questions. The problem is I don't speak Hungarian. I may need some

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I have found a teach yourself Hungarian book, but I didn't get to

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use it as we never saw Laszlo again. More importantly, we are off to

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find ERS boss, Jazz. We have heard he's left Cambridge and has headed

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north to Nottingham. The home of Robin Hood. Torvill and Dean. The

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lace market. And Brian Clough. None of whom are gas safe registered. He

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nicked this off Usain Bolt. We are here outside their HQ. We have

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heard that Jazz is in the house and we are ready to rock 'n' roll. Good

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luck, everyone. Hi, there. Come on in, guys. Matt Allwright, BBC Rogue

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Traders. It is interesting that your... Can you please leave?

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are wearing the Gas Safe logo, but you are sending out engineers who

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are not Gas Safe registered. That is not true. Like Laszlo, the guy

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you were on the phone to when he came to our place on the 14th

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June... Can you leave? You were sending them out. That is not even

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including the fact of course that you charged us �600 - could we have

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a chat? No. Jay? Hold on a sec. I have to get this little legal

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letter... There you go. So that's Jazzdeep Randhawa Singh. Jazz

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improvised as an art form. There is nothing with wrong with the

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expansion vessel. Do you have a gas safety card? Yes, yes. You couldn't

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make that up! ERS Nationwide Limit have said they told our interviewee

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Dave Meek they had no experience of his type of boiler and that they

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tried to fix it as best they could. They have now fully refunded him.

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In Sarah Dunn's case, they say the pipe needed wasn't standard pipe

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and they didn't have it on them at the time. They maintain that Laszlo

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didn't need a gas safe ID card because the work he did wasn't gas

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safety work. They say his English was poor. He thought he was showing

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the ID of the company not a gas safe ID. They don't explain how he

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came to show the card belonging to their head engineer. They say they

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have undertaken hundreds of repairs and have many satisfied customers

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who have been assisted facing emergency situations. We haven't

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heard from those customers. Because of what they have told us, Jazz

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Singh becomes the latest face on our Rogues' Gallery.

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Loads of you have been in touch about that story involving many new

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cars that no longer come with spare tyres. The sealant is useless.

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Another one, there is no substitute for a spare wheel. I'm a breakdown

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patrolman and a puncture with no spare is a total nightmare.

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Cadbury's have shrunk their Dairy Milk bar. Can you believe it? Is

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nothing sacred? Lots are saying it's gone from 49 to 45 grammes.

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Cadbury's have confirmed it is true. We are shocked! Do keep sending us

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more stories just like that and more top tip-offs. Go to our

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website. You will find it at bbc.co.uk/watchdog and please click

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on Your Story. There is the old- fashioned way as well. You can

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write at: Thanks. Coming up next week:

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British Gas, NPower, Scottish Power raising prices. Do their excuses

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add up? Indesit, sales have gone with a bang, so have these washing

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