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Hello, I'm Lucy Owen. You are watching X-Ray.

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On tonight's programme... This man sold worthless car warranties

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costing hundreds of pounds. We ask him why.

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How our evidence helped convict this bogus doctor. One of his

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victims speaks out. And MP Nick Smith asks why private

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parking companies are not better Hello. Tonight we are in Swansea.

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My hometown! Later on, we will be hearing why some people around here

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are very annoyed with Sainsbury's at the moment.

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But first, Rachel investigates a car warranty company that has left

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customers across the UK seriously out of pocket.

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This is Porthcawl's Grand Pavilion, a truly historic Welsh venue which

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has played host to everyone from Gerry & The Pacemakers to Katherine

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Jenkins. But how rich would you have to be

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to turn it into the Moulin Rouge and hold your daughter's 15th

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birthday party here? About this rich.

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My house is on six acres we have a hot tub with full entertainment

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system. Mum, can we take the Porche?

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And I also have a lot of cars. These pictures come from a cable TV

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show where rich teenagers get a party to die for.

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That is �1,318, please. The family here are the Panasears,

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from the Vale of Glamorgan. And the cash comes from dad, Harby Panesear.

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But where did the money come from? This lane in Llantwit Major used to

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be the hub of his business empire. He took over a company called

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Motorcare Warranties from his father-in-law, around 2004.

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Then, four years ago, he set up another company, Motorcare Elite,

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which operated from offices in this house.

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The company sold warranties to car dealers, who then sold them on to

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their customers, offering peace of mind in case the car broke down.

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Andrew Rafferty from Hirwaun needed a reliable car to get to work.

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It had done 80,000 miles, so the garage advised me to get one, as a

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peace of mind. I took out the Motorcare warranty,

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which, as the garage advised me, was probably one of the best on the

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market at the time. Andrew paid the garage �200 for a

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one-year warranty, but in January last year, he faced a big repair

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bill. But Motorcare seemed slow to pay up.

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I was �675 out of pocket. It was just after Christmas and I have two

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kids. It is a dear time of the year and I was in and out of work.

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The cash never arrived and, by March, Motorcare had gone out of

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business. But they were just the middlemen. Andrew's policy says it

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was backed by an insurance company called Alpha Insurance. Surely they

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would pay out? We received a letter saying that,

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when they have looked at the records, Motorcare had in fact paid

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out on this claim on January 5. I can show them bank statements

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showing I have not had this money. Alpha Insurance say they have

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evidence other customers are in the same situation. Andrew is furious

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with Harby Panesar. It makes me very angry to think I

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actually work for a living and earn money and there is people like him

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out there taking money from working class people who have worked for

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this money. Adrian and Beverly Reynolds, from

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Cwmcarn, bought their pick-up at auction, together with a �700

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Motorcare Elite warranty, which would last as long as they kept the

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vehicle. It seemed like money well spent

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when the car did go wrong. So how much was the repair?

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The repairs came to �1,260 in total. Quite a lot of money to pay out.

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But I guess you were reassured because, hey-ho, you had the

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warranty? Exactly.

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But it was not that simple. Motorcare had gone out of business,

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so they turned to the underwriters named on the warranty, Alpha

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Insurance. We contacted Alpha group and they

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did not seem to have any record of the policy that we had paid for.

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In fact, Alpha say they have never provided insurance for life-of-

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It seems Llantwit Major-based Motorcare had some other tricks up

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its sleeve. We have been sent lots of Motorcare

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warranties by viewers. This policy here mentions the name

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of a company called Belmonte Limited. We have been in touch with

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them and they say they've never had a contract with Motorcare.

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When you look closely, you see the actual insurance underwriters are

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London-based Marine & General Insurance Company. We cannot find

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any trace of this company fills stop

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While Motorcare boss Harby Panesar was issuing these policies he was

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living the dream, spending a reported �20,000 on his daughter's

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party. But his warranties were not such a

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hot ticket. The Financial Services Authority is investigating - and

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warning all custumers that their policies may be worthless.

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And they say Motorcare sold warranties through more than 400

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garages. There must be thousands of people who could be out of pocket.

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Harby Panesar says he is unable to speak to us because of the FSA

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investigation. Whilst the Motorcare money machine

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has hit the buffers, the man in charge is still living in his

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luxury home. He has been declared bankrupt, but does not seem to be

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on the bread line. We were still keen to speak to Mr

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Panesar. Can you tell us why you have been

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selling worthless warranties? Sorry, I have not sold any policies.

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You have. You have sold worthless warranties to your customers. What

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exactly has happened to their money when you have taken it?

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I am sorry, but I think you will find the garages have sold the

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policies, not myself. Yes, but they were your warranties,

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weren't they? No, they were were underwritten by

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underwriters. Talking of underwriters, why were

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you making up the names of underwriters on your policies?

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Er, I haven't. You have - Belmonte.

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Yes well, I have been told... Were Belmonte underwriting your

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policies? It is a simple question. Yes, they were.

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That is not what they told us. We actually asked them and they said

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they had never underwritten any of your policies.

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The documentation has been given in and that is basically it.

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What have you got to say to your customers? You have basically left

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them hundreds of pounds out of pocket and you are living in a

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place like this. Right. And?

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But you have taken their money when they cannot afford it. Don't you

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think you owe them answers? Right, No, all the answers will be

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given by the authorities. Have you got nothing to say to your

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customer? At this point, no.

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Why not? Don't you think you owe them an answer?

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When the time is right, I will. You will answer questions?

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When the time is right. Why not now?

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Because now is not the right time. Thank you.

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Not the right time, eh? Funny that... He was happy enough to

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shock officer will fontina he, but no one came to answering our

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questions. But if you are a former customer,

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there might be some good news. You may be able to claim back any money

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you have lost through the Financial Services Compensation Scheme, who

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say they aRE currently looking into scheme on our website, so if you

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have had any problems take a look. And if you want to get in touch

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with us, click on that Get in Touch button or give us a call. The lines

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Now, last year a lot of you got in touch about the carrier bag charge,

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especially when Tesco stopped giving out Green Clubcard points

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for using your own bags. Well, this time, it is Sainsburys you are

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complaining about. Maggie Tiltman who lives just down

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the road in Aberafan certainly is not pleased with Sainsbury's

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decision to charge a flat fee of 40p for bags with each online

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delivery. It is very unfair. I always go back a carrier bags to

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the delivery man. I do not need them. I know what is just 40p, but

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it just seems wrong that they cannot find another system.

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Not a happy lady. And it is not just Maggie who's been in touch.

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Trissy Williams from Newport says Tesco have offered the option of a

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bag free delivery for years and she does not understand why Sainsbury's

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cannot do the same. And here in Swansea, Elaine

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Williams is so annoyed that she is stopped shopping at Sainsbury's

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altogether. Sainsbury's say they decided to

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charge 40p because online customers use, on average, eight bags each.

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And they have done it so customers know exactly how much their online

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shop will cost. But they are going to look at this policy again in the

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next few months. We will be watching. Now, regular

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viewers will know all about the problems at The Walk car park in

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Ebbw Vale. Dozens of people complained to us after getting

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parking charge notices from a company called Excel Parking. The

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town's MP Nick Smith even mentioned us in the House of Commons.

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BBC Cymru Wales is on a story about car parking management in my

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constituency. This follows a high number of customer complaints.

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Mr Smith was as concerned as we were. He started looking into the

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way in which private parking companies like Excel operate. We

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asked him to share his findings with us.

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I have been outraged by some of the stories people have told me about

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what's gone on at The Walk. Councillors Mostyn Lewis and John

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Rogers are up in arms, too. They say the council has received more

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than 90 complaints. Nick, I can tell you story after

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story and I am sure Mostyn can as well, about this sort of situation.

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Disabled people have been treated disgracefully.

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Mostyn's angry because Excel Parking tried to charge David

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Hambley �120, because it took him too long to get a ticket from the

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new machines. It is disgraceful.

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While we were filming, I was shocked by how many people had

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stories about their bad experiences. I am six foot and I am finding it

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difficult trying to make sense of these signs here and there is a lot

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of information there. The signs are not lit, which means

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if it is dark or dusky, it is difficult to make sense of them.

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And I am concerned about the positioning of some of the signs.

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If you're reading them, you are standing in the road. There is

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always the chance you could get winged by a passing car.

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Since X-Ray first looked into problems at The Walk and I started

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writing to the company, the landowners who have engaged Excel

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got involved. There are some new signs up, but

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that is not enough. I have been trying to find out how many notices

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have been issued and who's making the money.

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I got in touch with the company and asked them to explain that to me,

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but they will not. I also understand that the owners

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get money from the machines here, but the car park managers get money

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from the parking charge notices. A cynic would say in their interest

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for more notices to be issued. It seems they are making a tidy

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profit. They are managed by a guy called

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Simon Renshaw Smith. Last year, he paid himself a �100,000 bonus - on

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top of a near �400,000 salary. Nice work if you can get it.

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A lot of people have been asking me how Excel got hold of their contact

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details to send out these parking charge notices.

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In last six years, the DVLA here have given Excel details of 200,000

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drivers for penalty notices for They tell me that they have to

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provide registered keeper details to those with a valid reason to ask

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for it. That includes parking companies, although the DVLA says

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there are strict controls. So the DVLA provide this data to

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Excel because they abide by the British Parking Association Code of

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Practice. But the Code of Practice was in part decided by Mr Simon

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Renshaw Smith, the managing director of Excel.

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That is because he sits on the Approved Operators board of the BPA.

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Funny that....! At the moment, people who feel they

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have had an unfair parking charge from a private company like Excel

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can only appeal to that firm. The British Parking Association will

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not get involved, so that firm is the judge, the jury and the

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executioner. But there is another way appeals

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could be run and it is a model council-owned car parks have to

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follow. An independent adjudicator, the Traffic Penalty Tribunal,

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decides whether appeals are justified there.

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I have come to meet Linda Sparks from Port Talbot. She successfully

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appealed against her local council when they tried to charge her for

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not paying to park in a disabled space, despite the fact she had

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displayed a valid blue badge. The adjudicator accepted the point

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that I made that the signs were unclear in their wording. They said

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there were no concessions when there clearly were some concessions

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and she accepted that these signs did not have the blue badge logo on

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them in order that people would know it was relative to them.

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Many of the people that have come to me are very happy to pay for

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parking, absolutely compliant and want to do the right thing, been

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caught out and they think unfairly treated. That is why they are cross,

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that is why they are angry. We need to reduce the penalty. That way

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everybody is doing the right thing - people pay to park and the

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landowner gets money for people Well, Excel Parking Services insist

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that they've always acted properly. But the good news is things are

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about to change. The British Parking Association has just

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announced they will be setting up a new appeals system. We caught up

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with Patrick Troy of the BPA to find out what that will mean for

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motorists? When it comes into being, what it will mean is that it will

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be very similar to the way that members of public who get parking

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tickets from local authorities are able to appeal now. So in simple

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terms, if you get a parking ticket and you're not happy with it, you

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will write to the person who's issued it to you, just as you would

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to the local authority. They will consider your case and either

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cancel your ticket or ask you to pay it. If they ask you to pay it

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then they will tell you to whom you can go to have your case

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independently considered. That scheme should come into being in

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October. We'll be watching how it works. Now lots of you have also

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been in touch asking why they shouldn't just rip up those parking

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charge notices. We asked barrister Christopher Rees, who visited The

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Walk in Ebbw Vale for us last year, what he thinks. It's not a fine,

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it's a charge, which means Excel would have to take you to court if

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you didn't pay. Most parking companies don't bother, but they

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could if they wanted to. So it is up to the individual to decide

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whether they want to take that risk. So now you know. Next, Lucy's On

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Mike Thane from Cardiff thought he'd found a great deal when he

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bought a second hand Peugeot. But the car has developed a major

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problem that's left Mike worried My engine keeps on cutting out when

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I'm driving my car and the garage can't seem to fix it. I'm on the

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Mike used to run his own garage here in Cardiff, but now it's his

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Hello Mike, lovely to see you. Show In March 2010, Mike decided to

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trade in his old car for a new model. Is it important to you then

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to have a reliable car? Yes if I've got to travel quite a lot cos I go

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see my family up north. My daughter is in Nottingham. Regular visits to

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see his children and grandchildren who all live far away are important

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to Mike. How old are the grandchildren? Six. Mike thought

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his �7,000 Peugeot would be just the job for family visits and

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motorway driving. Until he had a very frightening experience. I was

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within half a mile of home, and a warning light came on the dash. It

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just cut out like somebody switched the engine off. There was no power

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in the engine. There was cars behind me but they missed me

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luckily. The car was under warranty but the garage he'd bought it from

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was no longer a Peugeot dealership. They advised Mike to go to Griffin

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Mill garage in Pontypridd. They put a new fuel pump on it and then a

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week later it was the same. And you had quite a nasty experience didn't

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you on the motorway? Yes I was up on the M6, I'd done about 160 miles

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and it cut out then. It could have been dangerous then as it happened

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there were no cars around. Mike took the car back to Griffin Mill

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who carried on trying to diagnose the problem. But when it lost power

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again on a busy road last October, he decided enough was enough.

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want a car that's safe to drive and not be frightened when I go out

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that it's going to cut out on me and cause an accident. OK, Mike,

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I'm on the case! So what can you do if you keep taking your car to a

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garage and the problem just doesn't get fixed? It can be difficult to

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prove that a garage is at fault, but if a customer feels that their

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problem isn't being dealt with properly they can register their

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complaint with a motoring trade association. Motor Codes is

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government backed and has a free- of-charge service to help deal with

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disputes. But Mike had a manufacturer's warranty so he was

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covered for repairs and could have reported the issues directly to

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Peugeot. I've been in touch with Griffin Mill and Peugeot, and both

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have offered their apologies. Griffin Mill say they wanted to

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take the car in for more testing but Mr Thane refused this request.

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However Peugeot have offered to take the car away to carry out

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extensive tests at their main Technical Centre in Coventry.

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They've also offered �580 to pay for a hire car so Mike can continue

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to visit his family while the work is carried out. Thanks Lucy, the

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car is now fixed. I'm driving again and now I feel safe. And that's

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Mike's a happy man. He is indeed. Now, last March we brought you a

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shocking investigation into a supposed therapist working in

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Carmarthenshire who falsely claimed he could treat cancer. Our evidence,

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and the testimonies of two new victims, led to the arrest of Reg

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Gill and his wife Leila and they were finally brought to justice

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right here in Swansea Crown Court. Reg Gill is not a doctor. But he

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claims he can treat cancer, even though he knows that's illegal

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under The Cancer Act. I've been to prison for doing it. Really? Yeah.

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Well, it's illegal for me to cure you of cancer. The 77-year-old was

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running an alternative clinic here in Carmarthenshire. He advertised

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his bizarre treatments at health fairs, convincing sick people who'd

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lost faith in conventional medicine that he could treat their illnesses.

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Judith Green was one of his patients. He'd said he'd been a

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medical officer in the war, he seemed to be experienced, very

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knowledgeable, and I had no reason at that stage to doubt that he was

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a medical doctor. In 2004, Gill was jailed for fraud, after falsely

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claiming he could cure a Flintshire man of pancreatic cancer. But

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prison didn't stop Reg Gill from preying on desperate people. Early

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last year, we found out that he and his new wife Leila were still

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claiming they could cure cancer patients at their home in the small

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village of Cwmduad in Carmarthenshire. Our researcher

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phoned Reg Gill with a cover story, that she feared she had cancer and

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had been advised to have a biopsy. My real concern is that it is bowel

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cancer. Quite easily dealt with. sent two members of our team

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undercover to Gill's home where his 35-year-old wife Leila assists him

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in treating patients. His penchant for younger women soon becomes

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clear. I knew you'd be a pretty one. Before long, Gill is boasting about

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what he can do for our researcher. Put it like this, if you let me

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treat you, you'll walk away from here without cancer. I beg your

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pardon? You will go out of here without the cancer. Today? Today.

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Judith Green went to Reg Gill concerned about an infection.

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Little did she know what would follow. He was waving his hands

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around, up and down my body as though he was scanning. And he said

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I was in a very bad way, he asked me to get undressed, and he would

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use an IFAS machine which would be able to re-energise the body.

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his treatment uses a device which the medical profession condemns as

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dangerous and unproven. Reg Gill used one of these on his patients.

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It's called an IFAS machine, and he claims it kills cancer cells by

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releasing high frequency waves and ozone into the body through various

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attachments. The machines aren't licensed to treat any illnesses.

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But Reg Gill sold them to vulnerable patients for up to

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$2,500 a time. Judith was devastated to be told she had

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cancer. Gill then used the machine to subject her to an uncomfortable,

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invasive treatment. He was the practitioner, I was the patient

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with basically nowhere to turn because I've now been told I've got

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cancer. Were you comfortable with what was happening? I knew he was

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being inappropriate anyway but I was trying to dismiss that at the

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time just to get a cure. Reg Gill persuaded Judith Green to stay the

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night at his bungalow and to return for another appointment. Alarmed by

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his behaviour, she reported him to the authorities. He was referring

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to his own sexual experiences with women that threw themselves at him

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because he'd saved their lives. I personally believe he's a sexual

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predator and he disguises that, creates a smokescreen, tells people

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they've got cancer when they haven't got cancer, so that can

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completely shake people's worlds and creates this dependency.

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April, a month after our report, another woman who can't be named

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came to the Gills home in Cwmduad. She too became a victim not just of

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fraud, but of sexual assault. The woman had gone to the Gills house

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with a friend who wanted to buy supplements. But Reg Gill shifted

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the focus to her health. Her words are spoken by an actor. Reg was

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looking at me. He started moving the palm of his hand over my

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midriff area and he said, you have big problems. He said you're going

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to have to take your clothes off for me to have a proper look. He

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started to press my lower abdomen then he moved his hand up from my

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tummy and started to feel my breasts. He looked me in the eye

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and said, well, my dear, I'm sorry to say but you have cancer. It was

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a massive shock. In the same breath he said, don't worry I can fix that.

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This machine doesn't just diagnose cancer it treats cancer. It was

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like the same person had told me I'm going to die then told me I

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could live. Reg Gill used the IFAS machine on the woman in an intimate

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way. His wife, Leila, assisted him. He was breathing on me, much too

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close, but I couldn't move away. Then he said it's all gone, he said

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he'd got it. I was so relieved. next day the woman went to her GP.

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Shocked at her story, he was able to confirm she did not have cancer.

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She searched the internet and after seeing X-Ray's report on the Gill's,

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she went to the police. Dyfed Powys Police investigated the claims made

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by both women and trawled through X-Ray's damning undercover footage.

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In May, officers swooped on the Gill's home to arrest them both.

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Detective Constable Nicola Williams led the investigation. We conducted

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searches of their home address and found machines and other items

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mentioned by both victims. This isn't a case you come across every

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day, its very unusual to tell someone they've got a disease in

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order to sexually abuse them. The X-Ray programme helped us because

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it put into pictures what was going on in the Gills household. Both

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complainants had come to us and given us their versions of events

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but this corroborated everything they were saying. Mr and Mrs Gill

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are a danger to the public, because they are telling people not to have

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conventional treatment and are also sexually abusing them. So it is a

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very pleasing result. The jury at Swansea Crown Court was unanimous

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in their verdict. Reg Gill was found guilty of three sexual

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assaults, six assaults by penetration and two counts of fraud.

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Leila Gill was convicted of one sexual assault and one count of

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fraud. Reg and Leila Gill will be sentenced in the next couple of

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weeks, we'll let you know what happens. That's all we've got time

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