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I'm Lucy Owen. And I'm Rhodri Owen. You're watching X-Ray. Bringing you | :00:03. | :00:06. | |
all the stories that matter. They bought brand new bungalows for | :00:06. | :00:16. | |
�185,000, but now the homes and their value are on the slide. | :00:16. | :00:19. | |
Cathrine Lewis thought her car was in the garage, until she heard from | :00:19. | :00:24. | |
the police. And finding out the cost of college | :00:24. | :00:34. | |
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life: how teenage students are Hello. Well, by now we've all had | :00:47. | :00:51. | |
two weeks to get used to paying for our carrier bags. Later in the | :00:51. | :00:54. | |
programme, we'll be finding out how shoppers here in Newport think it's | :00:54. | :00:56. | |
going. And reporting back on your views from across Wales. First, | :00:56. | :00:59. | |
though, Rachel investigates why homes at a new development in West | :00:59. | :01:09. | |
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homes at a new development in West Wales appear to be falling apart. | :01:10. | :01:13. | |
Aberporth lies at the southern end of lovely Cardigan Bay, a haven for | :01:13. | :01:21. | |
those who dream of a life by the seaside. This housing estate was | :01:21. | :01:24. | |
built in 2007 by a builder called Ian Jones, from Rheidol | :01:24. | :01:29. | |
Developments in Aberystwyth. They're just a couple of minutes | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
walk from the beautiful sea front. But for the people who bought | :01:34. | :01:37. | |
properties on Clos y Fferm, their new homes soon turned out to be | :01:37. | :01:41. | |
less perfect than they'd hoped. Rob and Dods Arnold moved in to Number | :01:41. | :01:51. | |
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4 Clos y Fferm in 2007. It cost �185,000. Why did you decide to | :01:53. | :01:56. | |
move here? Well, it's a nice environment, it's close to the sea, | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
the beach is five minutes away, very natural, unspoilt. So what | :01:59. | :02:05. | |
changed, then? Well, shortly after we moved in, we found some cracks. | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
We asked the builder to come and have a look at them, and he said | :02:09. | :02:13. | |
he'd send his workman, who came with mastic, filled the cracks up. | :02:13. | :02:17. | |
But unfortunately, that wasn't enough. The cracks were getting | :02:17. | :02:19. | |
bigger, and more and more were appearing around the bungalow, | :02:19. | :02:26. | |
garage and garden. So when did you notice this? We noticed this about | :02:26. | :02:30. | |
18 months ago. The roof tiles are sort of spreading, as you can see. | :02:30. | :02:33. | |
They're parting company with the rest of the roof and it's getting | :02:33. | :02:39. | |
worse. This part of the garden is actually sloping away as well. | :02:39. | :02:43. | |
There's a ravine at the back, and I think the garden is sort of | :02:43. | :02:47. | |
slipping into the ravine. This is where we first discovered the | :02:47. | :02:53. | |
cracks, this one up here. Oh, my goodness! You can see the size of | :02:54. | :03:00. | |
that, it's way over an inch across. That metalwork is bent. Wow! That's | :03:00. | :03:04. | |
pretty. And it's got worse. It has got worse, and you can see the door | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
frame is moving away from the door there. And the same on the floor | :03:07. | :03:14. | |
line, the wall is moving away from the floor of the garage. Alarmed by | :03:14. | :03:16. | |
the deterioration, Rob asked neighbour at Number 5 if she was | :03:16. | :03:19. | |
having similar problems. We opened up our garage and we seen intensive | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
cracks, then the actual airing cupboard was starting to crack, and | :03:22. | :03:30. | |
then we see the bathroom in here, the tiles actually fell off. It's | :03:30. | :03:33. | |
been tiled four times since, but that crack there is actually on the | :03:33. | :03:40. | |
outer wall as well. Ah, ok. Rob, Dods and Jenny had heard that a few | :03:40. | :03:42. | |
doors down, their neighbours were having even bigger problems with | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
very large cracks appearing in their properties. Those properties | :03:46. | :03:51. | |
now sit empty on the estate. So how long's it been like this? | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
It's been boarded up for around 18 months or even two years. The lady | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
who lived here was only here around six months before all the problems | :03:58. | :04:03. | |
set in. And do you worry this is going to happen to your house? | :04:03. | :04:09. | |
indeed. As you can see this is another property that's been badly | :04:09. | :04:14. | |
affected, there's major cracking across the drive way. It looks like | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
there's been a tremor or something? Yeah, it looks like an earthquake | :04:18. | :04:25. | |
or something. Yeah, it does. for both sets of home-owners, the | :04:25. | :04:28. | |
financial consequences have been devastating. It's now being valued | :04:28. | :04:30. | |
at around 10 or 20,000. This represents between us almost 60 | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
years of hard work and then to be told it's virtually worthless, this | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
was our retirement fund and now it's been wiped off the face of the | :04:37. | :04:43. | |
earth almost. We're stuck with a property we can't sell, we can't | :04:43. | :04:47. | |
rent, and we can't do nothing with. And we've got no money. And how | :04:47. | :04:52. | |
does that make you feel? Very depressed. Not all the houses in | :04:52. | :04:55. | |
the cul-de-sac have developed these problems. But it's not just | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
physical cracks in people's houses that are causing problems for the | :04:58. | :05:05. | |
residents of here. Rachael Shelly lives at Number 13 with her husband | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
and their son Isaac. Her property isn't damaged, but she's worried. | :05:09. | :05:11. | |
Because some on her neighbours, whose homes are also undamaged, | :05:11. | :05:18. | |
have seen the value of their properties drop by at least �30,000. | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
We're extremely concerned about it, we couldn't sell, we couldn't do | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
anything about it. So you feel you couldn't sell? Well, from what we | :05:25. | :05:28. | |
hear, we wouldn't be able to because the houses aren't being | :05:28. | :05:32. | |
valued at what the mortgage is. Obviously, we haven't got any | :05:32. | :05:35. | |
damage at the moment, but you're constantly looking for it, you're | :05:35. | :05:38. | |
watching minor settling cracks to see if they're going to be any | :05:38. | :05:45. | |
bigger or worse, and you know, it concerns us all, I think. So why | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
did these problems occur in the first place? We asked chartered | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
surveyor Kevin Thomas to take a look at the damaged houses and give | :05:51. | :05:57. | |
us his expert opinion. What do you think has happened here? I think | :05:57. | :06:00. | |
there's a combination of issues. One, the most important, I think, | :06:00. | :06:03. | |
is that there's ground movement, ongoing ground movement. It's | :06:03. | :06:08. | |
probably the worst ground movement I've seen in a long time. And it's | :06:08. | :06:11. | |
causing structural problems to the superstructure of these properties. | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
You don't have to be a surveyor or engineer to see it. We're talking | :06:15. | :06:19. | |
about cracks of 30-60 mm wide, which are very, very serious. | :06:19. | :06:23. | |
does the future hold really, for these houses? In one or two cases, | :06:23. | :06:28. | |
the most severe, I think it's demolition and rebuild. Rob, Dods | :06:28. | :06:31. | |
and Jenny have had endless problems working out who to turn to. They've | :06:31. | :06:34. | |
written countless letters to the builder Ian Jones, to Zurich, who | :06:34. | :06:37. | |
issued a ten-year house guarantee on their properties, and they've | :06:37. | :06:39. | |
tried to claim on their buildings insurance. So who is ultimately | :06:39. | :06:49. | |
responsible for sorting this mess out? Generally they'd have to take | :06:49. | :06:51. | |
this through their building insurers, and if they're not | :06:51. | :06:53. | |
getting any joy through those, employ their own professional | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
advisors, by way of surveyors, engineers, to take this forward | :06:56. | :07:02. | |
through them, and progress their claim. The Arnolds' building | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
insurers Zurich have installed monitoring devices in their homes. | :07:06. | :07:09. | |
These measurements have been going on for nearly 18 months, and have | :07:09. | :07:13. | |
you had any results from it? haven't really had any results, and | :07:13. | :07:16. | |
we haven't had any indications of what actions they're going to take | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
as a result of the movement. it's just sitting there? It's just | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
sitting there and we're just sitting there waiting for something | :07:23. | :07:26. | |
to happen. Zurich have now told us they're going to continue to | :07:26. | :07:29. | |
monitor the property over the winter in case there is more | :07:29. | :07:32. | |
movement. After completing their investigation they'll then consider | :07:32. | :07:38. | |
what the best course of action is and implement it. When the problems | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
first occurred, Jenny made a claim to her insurers, Barclays, which | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
was declined. Jenny no longer insurers her home with Barclays, | :07:46. | :07:51. | |
but we've asked them look again at the original claim. Barclays have | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
sent out loss adjusters and are reinvestigating her case. They also | :07:55. | :07:58. | |
say they're now liaising with Zurich to ensure the best outcome | :07:58. | :08:08. | |
for their customers. So what have your insurers been like? How have | :08:08. | :08:11. | |
they dealt with the situation? just don't seem to be responding to | :08:11. | :08:14. | |
us whatsoever, they should be looking after us, not putting up | :08:14. | :08:16. | |
barriers all the time. They're supposed to be supporting us, | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
they're supposed to be our safety net. We shouldn't have to be | :08:19. | :08:22. | |
attacking them to achieve a resolution. We feel completely let | :08:22. | :08:27. | |
down, and it's just like we don't exist. | :08:27. | :08:31. | |
A bad situation there. We'll keep you posted on any developments from | :08:31. | :08:34. | |
those insurers. We also asked the builder Ian Jones of Rheidol | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
Developments what he had to say. He's told us that he's spent | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
hundreds of thousands of pounds trying to find a solution and is | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
determined to put things right. He's also told us that he's taking | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
legal action against a company who he says failed to diagnose the | :08:46. | :08:52. | |
landslip early on in the process. Ian Jones says he deeply regrets | :08:52. | :08:55. | |
what has happened and will fix the problems whether or not he wins the | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
court case. New drainage and monitoring systems have been | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
installed, and he says he needs to be sure the land has stopped | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
sliding before any repair work starts. So hopefully, between the | :09:06. | :09:10. | |
insurers and the builder, the problems will be sorted out. We'll | :09:10. | :09:13. | |
be watching. Remember, if there's anything you'd like us to | :09:13. | :09:23. | |
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investigate, get in touch now. Our Now, last year, payday loan | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
companies lent their customers over �1 billion pounds. Lucy's been | :09:29. | :09:31. | |
finding out how students here in Newport and across Wales are | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
falling for the hype surrounding this type of loan. | :09:34. | :09:36. | |
Making friends, getting to grips with college life and taking those | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
first independent steps is a lot to deal with when students first head | :09:40. | :09:50. | |
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off to university. Then there is the extra challenge of managing a | :09:50. | :09:55. | |
budget, often for the first time. And payday loan companies seem to | :09:55. | :09:59. | |
be capitalising on this. Students are being bombared with text | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
messages, ads on Facebook and TV, mobile phone apps and websites all | :10:02. | :10:04. | |
offering high-interest short-term loans. Quick access to money, just | :10:04. | :10:14. | |
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a few clicks away. I get text messages, emails. They're pretty | :10:15. | :10:18. | |
much on every channel you watch, there are at least one or two | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
adverts about them. It's just everywhere, isn't it? Because I | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
opened a bank account for my student loan to go into, then I got | :10:25. | :10:29. | |
a couple of texts after that. President of Coleg Gwent's Student | :10:29. | :10:32. | |
Union Craig Thorne thought taking out a payday loan was the solution | :10:32. | :10:39. | |
to his cash problems. So what made you decide to go for a payday loan? | :10:39. | :10:43. | |
It was just a quick-fix option. I was struggling to find money for | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
Christmas, so I decided to take out a loan and repay it when I had more | :10:47. | :10:50. | |
money just to use it for Christmas presents, really. It was literally | :10:50. | :10:53. | |
just the easiest option for me. After borrowing a small amount last | :10:53. | :10:56. | |
year and missing early repayments, Craig became overwhelmed by the | :10:56. | :11:00. | |
debt. I thought I was going to be able to pay it, and if I could | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
repay it for whatever reason, I wasn't expecting the interest to be | :11:03. | :11:08. | |
so hefty. So I honestly don't know how I'm going to be able to afford | :11:08. | :11:12. | |
to pay it off. Sorcha Kennedy works with people in debt in Newport. | :11:12. | :11:18. | |
She's concerned that payday loans are so easy to obtain. As a money | :11:18. | :11:21. | |
advisor, I'd say it's the biggest thing we're seeing over the past | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
couple of years. Most debt clients that come in for advice have got a | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
payday loan that they're struggling to repay. Are these loans really so | :11:28. | :11:31. | |
bad? It's very rare that you see someone that's able to use them for | :11:31. | :11:34. | |
what they're designed for, in that very basically filling a gap | :11:34. | :11:37. | |
between a payday. The majority of clients are using them can't pay | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
them back. Just by the very nature of them, the interest doubles and | :11:41. | :11:47. | |
the default charges go on, which can result in bank charges as well. | :11:47. | :11:50. | |
And universities across the country say they're concerned. From Bangor | :11:50. | :11:53. | |
to Swansea to UWIC in Cardiff, there's been a sharp rise in | :11:53. | :12:02. | |
students taking out payday loans over the last few years. He thought | :12:02. | :12:06. | |
of having their auction, giving you a lifeline, you think it is amazing. | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
You think he was saved, but then you have to deal with all the | :12:10. | :12:15. | |
things after. If you are desperate, you are going to start to forget | :12:15. | :12:19. | |
about the repercussions. It is very tempting, being a student. I have | :12:19. | :12:27. | |
already run out of money. A few friends have joked about it, but I | :12:27. | :12:31. | |
think other people have quickly told them it is not a good idea. | :12:31. | :12:33. | |
Anne Reid is Money Doctor for Aberystwyth University. She says | :12:33. | :12:36. | |
she's now hearing from all kinds of students who've encounted problems | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
with loan companies. You have students from the poorer background | :12:39. | :12:42. | |
who have the low household income perhaps, who haven't been able to | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
budget properly, and you have the students from the higher income | :12:44. | :12:47. | |
families who have again overspent and are too embarrassed to tell | :12:47. | :12:57. | |
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their parents they are in financial trouble. The figures that people | :12:58. | :13:01. | |
have been borrowing will be anything from �75, and from memory | :13:01. | :13:08. | |
I think the maximum was �1,000. And of course, paying back is then a | :13:08. | :13:14. | |
major issue. Such a major issue for some, they've needed help from the | :13:14. | :13:20. | |
Welsh Government's student hardship fund to repay fast increasing loans. | :13:20. | :13:22. | |
I've seen in my job as student finance advisor about 30 students | :13:23. | :13:28. | |
over the last two years. That's not to say that there aren't many more | :13:28. | :13:31. | |
out there, there may well be those who perhaps are embarrassed to ask | :13:31. | :13:37. | |
for help. But we've been able to help, I would say, half of them by | :13:37. | :13:40. | |
helping from the contingency fund, which is the hardship fund provided | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
by the Welsh Government. Advisors like Sorcha are particularly | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
concerned by the way payday loan companies offer top-up loans when | :13:47. | :13:52. | |
students are already struggling with repayments. That's the biggest | :13:52. | :13:56. | |
problem. It's people then having to take out one loan to repay another | :13:56. | :14:00. | |
one, and again, that's when the cycle of debt then begins. Sorcha's | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
advice for people like Craig is not to ignore the debt. Students | :14:04. | :14:07. | |
stuggling with payday loans should seek advice, from staff at their | :14:07. | :14:12. | |
college or specialists like Citizens Advice. And they should | :14:12. | :14:22. | |
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get in touch with the lender to Now for the past fortnight we've | :14:28. | :14:31. | |
been getting used to paying 5p for a carrier bag, so how's that going | :14:32. | :14:39. | |
here in Newport? People are not using so many backs, which is the | :14:39. | :14:45. | |
idea. The money we get, we put in the charity boxes. It is filling up | :14:45. | :14:50. | |
so that is a good thing as well. How are you coping? I have never | :14:50. | :14:56. | |
paid it and have no intent -- no intention of paying it. I don't | :14:56. | :15:01. | |
remember to take bags with me. I usually end up paying them. | :15:01. | :15:08. | |
money going his chat -- is going to charity so it's fine. And you've | :15:08. | :15:12. | |
been getting in touch to let us know how it's going in the rest of | :15:12. | :15:14. | |
Wales. Julia Watts from Welshpool feels really despondent about how | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
few shops are planning on giving the proceeds to environmental | :15:17. | :15:19. | |
causes. And she's annoyed that staff in three of the big | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
supermarket chains she visited didn't actually know where the | :15:22. | :15:24. | |
money was going. Selina from Haverfordwest thinks | :15:24. | :15:26. | |
it's unfair that Tesco's have stopped giving green Clubcard | :15:26. | :15:30. | |
points to customers in Wales. She'd like to know if charities will be | :15:30. | :15:35. | |
benefiting from the points instead. And Jim Cherrett from Bridgend | :15:35. | :15:38. | |
discovered that if you want a burger and chips at McDonalds | :15:38. | :15:42. | |
that'll be 5p for a bag. But if it's only fries in the bag then | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
it's free. And someone actually stole one of | :15:45. | :15:48. | |
Sue Jones's bags out of her trolley in Brecon when her back was turned! | :15:48. | :15:54. | |
Nasty. Next. When you hand your car over | :15:54. | :15:57. | |
to a garage, you expect them to take good care of it. That's not | :15:57. | :16:07. | |
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what happened when the Lewis family Catherine Lewis's Mini was her | :16:08. | :16:14. | |
pride and joy when she bought it new nearly 18 months ago. The | :16:14. | :16:17. | |
family had been through a tough time and Catherine and her husband | :16:17. | :16:25. | |
Bill hoped the car might lift their spirits. When I had the car, it | :16:25. | :16:30. | |
just sort of made me feel a bit better, lifted me up. I loved the | :16:30. | :16:34. | |
car. All was fine until they noticed a tapping noise when they | :16:34. | :16:36. | |
started the car first thing in the morning. | :16:36. | :16:46. | |
Catherine, that tick-tick noise, is that what you're talking about? | :16:46. | :16:54. | |
that's right. Does it happen all the time? | :16:54. | :16:59. | |
First off it starts and then after a couple of miles it's gone. So it | :16:59. | :17:03. | |
was time to take the car back to the garage where they bought it for | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
some tests. The Lewises booked the mini into Sytners Garage in Newport | :17:06. | :17:12. | |
in March. It seemed like a quick fix. Sytner had the vehicle and | :17:12. | :17:16. | |
they deduced it was due to lack of oil. I questioned that because it | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
was a new car, but they said Minis burn oil. So did changing the oil | :17:20. | :17:24. | |
sort it out for good? Well, no, in May, the noise, whether it was the | :17:24. | :17:32. | |
same noise, but was very similar, had returned. I checked the oil and | :17:32. | :17:38. | |
that was fine. So they brought the car back to the garage again in May | :17:38. | :17:41. | |
- this time it was here for two weeks while they investigated the | :17:41. | :17:47. | |
noise. It was clearly proving tricky to pin down. | :17:47. | :17:53. | |
So tricky that it led the garage to make an unusual request. I had a | :17:53. | :17:56. | |
phone call from them requesting my permission for one of their staff | :17:56. | :17:59. | |
to take the car home overnight, so the technician could drive it in | :17:59. | :18:09. | |
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the morning. The garage recorded the call, during which they told | :18:09. | :18:12. | |
Bill that letting a mechanic take the car home to Pontypool would | :18:12. | :18:19. | |
speed up their search for the problem. At first he refused. | :18:19. | :18:22. | |
God, you can't take that car to Pontypool. It's got a bloody big | :18:22. | :18:27. | |
flag of St George on the top. you want me to leave it, I can do. | :18:27. | :18:31. | |
Not in a million years. Leave it there. But they did manage to | :18:31. | :18:35. | |
To allow them to drive it for shorter distances. "Am I OK to use | :18:35. | :18:38. | |
it in the day for my drivers to use it for getting around? | :18:38. | :18:43. | |
moderation. But despite all that road testing, when the Lewises | :18:43. | :18:48. | |
finally got their car back, the garage told them there was no fault. | :18:48. | :18:53. | |
The noise was just a characteristic of the car. But that wasn't the end | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
of the story. Three days later and more bad news: | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
a speeding notice arrived in the post addressed to Mrs Lewis. But it | :19:01. | :19:06. | |
was dated at exactly the time her car was with the garage. My first | :19:06. | :19:09. | |
thought was that they had the wrong car. The next thought was that my | :19:09. | :19:13. | |
son had been driving the car, but when I showed it to Bill, he said | :19:13. | :19:19. | |
it was when it was with the garage. The speeding offence happened here | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
near Ystrad Mynach - that's around 15 miles from the Sytner Garage in | :19:22. | :19:27. | |
Newport. The car was caught on camera doing 55 miles per hour on a | :19:28. | :19:35. | |
road where the limit is 40. speeding fine provides evidence of | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
their lack of regard for the car and their total contempt for my | :19:38. | :19:44. | |
instructions. So how common is this? We asked an expert: Tim | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
Shallcross from the Institute of Advanced Motorists. There are | :19:49. | :19:54. | |
garages who use customers cars as runabouts, and that's totally wrong. | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
This is a valuable possession that the customer has entrusted to the | :19:57. | :20:01. | |
garage. They use it for picking up other customers' cars, for | :20:01. | :20:06. | |
collecting parts, for dropping people at home. All kinds of things | :20:06. | :20:10. | |
that we hear about, and I must emphasise that a lot of garages are | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
responsible and do look after their customer's cars. So what can be | :20:13. | :20:18. | |
done to stop this? The first thing we can all do is make a note of our | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
mileage when the car goes into the garage. If it seems excessive, more | :20:21. | :20:25. | |
than five or six miles, challenge the garage, and make a note of it, | :20:25. | :20:35. | |
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so if a speeding ticket does come through, you've got a note of it. | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
Sytners have now admitted that one of their staff was at the wheel | :20:42. | :20:45. | |
when the car was caught speeding. They say they've paid the fine and | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
the points have gone on their driver's licence. | :20:49. | :20:51. | |
The company also say they've reviewed their internal controls on | :20:51. | :20:54. | |
the use of customer's vehicles, and are offering to pay the Lewises | :20:54. | :20:58. | |
more than �500 as a gesture of goodwill. They say that throughout | :20:58. | :21:01. | |
their dealings with the Lewises they've tried to provide a high | :21:01. | :21:06. | |
level of customer service. So what about that elusive noise? | :21:06. | :21:09. | |
Well, Mini themselves have carried out some more tests on the car - | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
the good news, they now say they know exactly what's making the | :21:12. | :21:15. | |
tapping sound, and it's completely normal and part of the vehicle's | :21:15. | :21:17. | |
design. But for the Lewises the whole experience has left them | :21:17. | :21:23. | |
frustrated and angry. I loved it when I first had it. With every car | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
I've ever had I become attached to it, but now it's nothing. It's just | :21:27. | :21:37. | |
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Oh dear. Now if you remember last week we told you about Rhys and | :21:40. | :21:43. | |
Nicole from Brithdir whose car insurance went up by �170 after | :21:43. | :21:49. | |
they moved to the very next street. Well, Nia Dowd thinks she can beat | :21:49. | :21:54. | |
that one. Her policy went up by a whopping �400 when she moved from | :21:54. | :22:04. | |
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Caerleon to Caldicot last month. you think you can compete with | :22:04. | :22:07. | |
those - let us know your postcode lottery problems. Next, Lucy's On | :22:07. | :22:17. | |
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Lucie Bush from Llanelli thought that cancelling her mobile phone | :22:20. | :22:23. | |
insurance would help save her money, but two years later she realised | :22:23. | :22:32. | |
she was still paying for it. I'm on the case. I thought my mobile phone | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
policy had been cancelled but two years later it's still being taken | :22:35. | :22:43. | |
out. Right, time to head to In 2007 Lucie took out a mobile | :22:43. | :22:48. | |
phone contract and insurance policy with the Carphone Warehouse. Her | :22:48. | :22:51. | |
phone is essential as she needs to be able to keep in regular contact | :22:51. | :22:56. | |
with her daughter Tamzin, who's visually impaired. I like to keep | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
in touch with Tamzin and I know she likes to know that I'm on the other | :23:00. | :23:04. | |
end of the phone. So having good mobile phone insurance is | :23:04. | :23:07. | |
important? Yes, yes. If anything should happen to my mobile phone | :23:07. | :23:12. | |
and I was without it for a length of time I think I'd start to panic. | :23:12. | :23:15. | |
Being out of the house a lot, visiting my grandmother etc, I'm | :23:15. | :23:19. | |
not on the landline so I'd panic if she couldn't get hold of me and I | :23:19. | :23:23. | |
know she would as well, so that insurance did mean a lot. | :23:23. | :23:29. | |
In May 2009 Lucie moved her mobile phone contract to O2. But two years | :23:29. | :23:32. | |
later she discovered she was still paying money to the Carphone | :23:32. | :23:37. | |
Warehouse. So I was looking online and saw the direct debit from | :23:37. | :23:40. | |
Carphone Warehouse and thought that was a bit odd because I had | :23:40. | :23:47. | |
definitely in my mind cancelled this insurance a long time ago. | :23:47. | :23:50. | |
fact, Lucie's insurance had never been cancelled which meant she had | :23:50. | :23:59. | |
paid a total of �274.50 for a policy she no longer needed. So I | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
phoned them. Told them what I discovered online and they said | :24:02. | :24:08. | |
that they would cancel it straight away. So did Carphone Warehouse | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
offer to refund you any of the money they'd been taking out of | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
your account? They did offer to pay me August's direct debit, quarterly | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
payment of �27.45 for that month but I didn't really understand why | :24:18. | :24:28. | |
just that month. Yes, I can see from our records here that they've | :24:28. | :24:31. | |
refunded you �27.45 but they've taken a lot more from you. How do | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
you feel about that? Angry. I've been a good customer and always | :24:35. | :24:42. | |
paid my bills and was with them for a few years. And in this day and | :24:42. | :24:45. | |
age, there's no need for any unnecessary cost going out of the | :24:45. | :24:49. | |
account. So, Lucie, what would you like me to try and do? I'd like you | :24:49. | :24:52. | |
to contact Carphone Warehouse and see if you can get my money back | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
for me, please. I'll try my best. I'm on the case. | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
Now there are things to look out for when you switch your mobile | :24:59. | :25:02. | |
phone contract. It's important to remember to read the small print on | :25:02. | :25:04. | |
the insurance contract. Switching to a new company doesn't | :25:04. | :25:09. | |
necessarily mean that your existing polices will be cancelled. It's a | :25:09. | :25:13. | |
good idea to check what payments are going out of your account. | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
Lucie was confused but she could have spoken to her bank to clarify | :25:16. | :25:22. | |
exactly who and what she was paying. Lucie was right to contact the | :25:22. | :25:24. | |
Carphone Warehouse when she realised she was still being | :25:24. | :25:34. | |
:25:34. | :25:37. | ||
charged. So let's see what Carphone Carphone Warehouse has got back to | :25:37. | :25:39. | |
me. After investigating Mrs Bush's claim they say they were never | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
informed that she had changed her contract directly with O2 and | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
that's why they continued to accept direct debit payments. However, | :25:47. | :25:50. | |
Carphone Warehouse say they do value Mrs Bush's custom and are | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
happy to refund her the value of the quarterly payments made to them | :25:53. | :26:03. | |
:26:03. | :26:05. | ||
since Mrs Bush took out a new contract with O2 in May 2009. | :26:06. | :26:09. | |
Carphone Warehouse have agreed to give me a refund and with a baby on | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
the way it's going to come in really handy for the nursery. | :26:12. | :26:17. | |
that's another case closed! And just time for an update - | :26:17. | :26:20. | |
Rachel's been to see a man we first met 18 months ago - now he's | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
finally managed to get a refund. We first heard about the problems | :26:26. | :26:33. | |
suffered by Simon Haslett when X- Simon had signed up for cavity wall | :26:33. | :26:38. | |
insulation with The Mark Group in 2007. He thought it would save him | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
money on his energy bills, but it wasn't long before alarm bells | :26:41. | :26:46. | |
started ringing. My wife noticed a problem in the front hallway, in | :26:46. | :26:52. | |
the floor. Basically there was a hole in it, she put her finger | :26:52. | :26:56. | |
through the floor. We found dry rot behind the skirting boards, under | :26:56. | :27:04. | |
the stairs, under the floor boards and into the front room. Simon | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
complained to The Mark Group, but they refused to accept that their | :27:07. | :27:12. | |
insulation had caused the damage. They sent out a surveyor and he had | :27:13. | :27:16. | |
a look around and made a report out that said the house was at fault | :27:16. | :27:19. | |
before they put the cavity wall insulation in and it wasn't because | :27:19. | :27:29. | |
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of the cavity wall insulation So Simon contacted X-Ray and we | :27:31. | :27:36. | |
sent our surveyor Tim Davies to inspect his house. He concluded The | :27:36. | :27:39. | |
Mark Group were partly responsible for the damage, and the company | :27:39. | :27:42. | |
eventually agreed to look at the situation again .For a long time | :27:42. | :27:45. | |
there were no developments and Simon battled on, paying for a new | :27:45. | :27:55. | |
:27:55. | :27:55. | ||
floor out of his own pocket. But after a year the Mark Group's | :27:56. | :27:58. | |
insurers eventually got in touch, accepting they could be liable and | :27:58. | :28:08. | |
:28:08. | :28:11. | ||
offered him �5,000. I was relieved. I didn't think I would get anything. | :28:11. | :28:16. | |
It's been two years. It's been a long time. | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
Good to know that persistence can pay off. Yup, and that's all we've | :28:20. | :28:23. | |
got time for tonight. Remember we'd love to hear your views about that | :28:23. | :28:27. |