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You're watching X-Ray. On tonight's programme. He's working hard to

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build up his business, but one huge bill from Orange could be the end

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of Chris's company. The ten grand conservatory built by

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Unique Windows. It's certainly got some unique water features.

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And those charities asking for our money.

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Are there just too many requests in Hello. Tonight, we're in

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Llantrisant and later we'll be finding out what Christmas shoppers

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around here make of charity mailings.

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First though. Mobile phones aren't just about making calls any more.

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They're useful for all sorts of things, from catching up with your

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friends on Facebook to watching films. But Rachel's been to meet a

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man whose smartphone bill is a Thank you. It's always been the

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best way to see a film. Thanks. I love coming to the cinema with

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friends or the kids. But in this day and age, there are other

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options. With today's smartphones, you can watch a movie anywhere!

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It's not as comfy, it's not as warm, and the screen's not as big. But at

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least you don't have to buy a ticket. Here in the warm, there is

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one huge advantage. You pay for your ticket and there are no hidden

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charges. With a phone, it can be Painter and decorator Chris Wilson

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from Milford Haven found out just how different when he got his

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November bill from Orange. He's got an upmarket smartphone on an

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Hello. He normally pays a pricey �85 a month, but it's essential for

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his business. It's as important as my paint

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brushes basically. I use it for emails and I take calls for new

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jobs. It basically keeps the business running.

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And in terms of downloading data, do you do much of that?

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I do listen to audio books, but I always download them at home

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because I am aware that if you try to do that over a network it will

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cost you a lot of money. So what happened this particular

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month? I rung up to pay my bill and the

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lady said I just feel I should warn you that next month's bill is going

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to be slightly higher than normal. Then she told me how much it was

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going to be and�6,875 and I nearly had a heart attack.

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You had no clue really. Not until she told me. It made me go weak at

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the knees. I felt sick after she told me. The only thing I did

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different to any other month was I downloaded a programme from Sky Go

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which was 43 minutes long. Now, if that is going to cost �6,000, it

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would be cheaper for me to fly out and watch the programme being

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filmed. They're saying that you must have been watching loads of

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films. Like I say, I've done exactly as I have done every month.

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The only thing I did was watch that programme on Sky Go. A mistake's

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been made somewhere, but Orange just won't admit it. Orange say the

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charges are in line with Chris's contract and that he had used up

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nine gigabytes of data doing things like watching films over the

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internet. That's a lot of data. This is how they explain it. On 17

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October. He's clocking up data use at half past seven in the morning.

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He's using 52 million bytes every few minutes. Most of these entries

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are costing him �40. He's clocking up charges of �20 a minute. No

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movie is that good! In fact, it's hard to find anything that

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Front row seats to see the Rolling Stones - just �7.20 per minute.

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A night in Claridges' most expensive penthouse - �6.30 per

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minute. Even Wales' football hero Gareth

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Bale gets just �7.50 a minute from It's going to be pretty near

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impossible to prove how this data was used. But even if Chris quit

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decorating and became the world's biggest film buff, it's hard to see

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how these charges could be In Haverfordwest, it's not only

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Chris who's feeling the pain. Music teacher Clare Harrison also has a

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small business contract. I use it mainly for calls and I do have one

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or two friends who have my email address on that mobile so

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occasionally there is an email. Then occasionally again, maybe the

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weather forecast or maybe a news item or maybe look up a phone

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number on the internet. That's the only time I use the internet on my

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mobile. She usually pays up to �35 a month

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for her phone but in June, the bill was much much higher. I came home

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from a few days on a friend's narrow boat and I had this bill

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from Orange for about �5,000. I got straight on the phone to Orange

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just as soon as I could to say they had made a mistake of some

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description and they told me no. They were adamant and sure I had

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used this data. Orange say Clare had made a mistake

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with her phone settings, but they still made her pay nearly �500 of

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the bill. It does seem a staggering amount of money when you look at it

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at the moment. In the run up to Christmas they advertise these

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phones - brilliant for gamers and tweeters and you hear it all the

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time and you just think my goodness. It just worries me that, you know,

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so many people could be out there doing this and end up this with

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monstrous bill and just from using the phone the way the manufacturers

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are suggesting. Jumbo mobile bills like these are a

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growing problem as more of us get internet friendly smartphones.

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Whilst Clare's bill has been cut to under �500, Chris hasn't been so

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lucky. They cut his bill by �2,500, but that will still leave him owing

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more than �4,000. Enough to watch 673 films in this cinema!

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Potentially, if they make me pay the full bill, first of all, I

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can't afford to pay it in one go, so there is a chance they are going

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to cut me off. My phone is essential to my business, so that

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is going to have a knock-on effect and, paying a bill that much, it

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could potentially put my business under.

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Well, just hours after we filmed that interview with Chris, things

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got worse. Orange texted him to say that if he didn't pay up

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immediately, he'd be cut off, leaving him and his business

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without a phone. We asked Orange to come and explain their actions. But

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they refused. They say the charges on Chris's bill are in line with

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his contract but won't explain why they charge so much for this data.

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They point out they already refunded a month's worth of charges

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back in April when Chris also ran up a bill of several hundred pounds.

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And as for Clare's case? They say her bill was so high because her

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settings were wrong, which is a bit worrying. Worth checking out the

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settings, and the costs if you're planning on a phone upgrade anytime

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soon. Remember, if there's anything you'd

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like us to investigate, please do get in touch. The lines are open

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now - the number as always is 03703 334 334. Or send us an e-mail -

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xray @bbc.co.uk. And remember to leave us a daytime phone number so

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we can contact you straight away. Still to come on tonight's

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programme. He never built it, he says he's never owned it. So why

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should Alan pay for this wall to be repaired?

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And the missing Christmas present. Can we track down 18-month-old

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Now Christmas is traditionally a time for giving, but are charities

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putting too much pressure on us at the moment? We've been to visit one

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viewer who says it's gone too far. We're a generous bunch in Wales,

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giving millions to charity every year. But this figure is falling as

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the effects of the recession bite. In 2009, we gave an average of �12

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a month each to charity. In 2010, this dropped to �11 and last year

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it fell to �10. Charities are working hard to get us back, but in

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their eagerness are they in danger of driving us away? David Edwards'

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mother-in-law, Ruth, who lives in Cardiff, has given to charity all

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her life. She has always given money to charity whether that be by

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direct debit or a one off payment. As far as I'm aware, Ruth has done

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that for years and years and years, long before I met her, very

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generous lady. But in the run-up to Christmas,

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Ruth has had a staggering 25 begging letters from charities

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pushed through her front door, and all addressed to her personally.

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I have never seen anything like this before. As far as I'm aware,

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it hasn't happened with Ruth before. We're quite concerned how these

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charities got her name and address and we were obviously quite upset

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because of the pressure Ruth explained that she felt she was

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under. To encourage her to donate, many

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had included free gifts such as Christmas cards and calendars.

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have more or less pressured her into, "Well, you've received the

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gift, now you need to give us the money," and it upset us. Do elderly

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people get a lot of this sort of mail and feel pressured to pay out,

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sometimes large sums of money to various charities who they may

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never have heard about? The Fundraising Standards Board

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says charities need to ask otherwise donations can drop. But

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last year it received just under 15,000 complaints about direct mail.

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And the number of people complaining about the free gifts is

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on the rise. For people like Ruth, who do donate continually, are

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keeping charities going. I think we have to be careful not to frighten

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these people away by putting so much pressure on them, especially

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just before Christmas. Well, have you got an opinion on

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this? Let us know. And we'll be asking shoppers around here what

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they think later on. First though, we're off to Llandrindod Wells to

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find out about a very expensive For centuries, chroniclers have

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recorded the history of walls - the Great Wall of China, the Wailing

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all of Jerusalem, The Berlin Wall and now one modern-day scribe has

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notched up his own volume on an Calligrapher Alan Quincey and his

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wife Rhona, are both in their 80s. They moved to their bungalow in

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Howie just outside Llandrindod Wells 11 years ago. The first

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chapter of their story makes happy reading. The whole area is pleasing,

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the landscape is pleasing, the people are nice. Yeah, everything

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about it is good. But what the couple didn't realise is that a

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black cloud was looming on the horizon. Two years ago, the Welsh

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winter was harsh. When the snow melted, a problem with the wall

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outside the bungalow became apparent when Alan decided to get

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some evergreens cut down. We were cutting them down. You can

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see there are stumps here. The chap who was contracting noticed a

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difference in the wall and when we looked closely at the wall, it was

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cracked through frost damage. I promptly rang Powys County Council

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who sent out an engineer. He said, "No, that's not going to fall

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With a pile of rubble in place of a wall, it was obvious the whole

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thing would need rebuilding. But what wasn't quite so obvious is who

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owns the wall, and more importantly who would need to foot the bill.

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There seem to be three potential owners - Alan, who says the wall is

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not on his land. Wales and West Housing Association who own the

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housing estate next to Alan's house - who say it's not theirs. And

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Powys Council who own the road next to the wall. But they say they

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don't own it either. Despite the uncertainty over the

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wall's ownership, the council are pretty sure about how much it will

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cost to rebuild - �30,000! At first they offered to split the

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cost three ways - between themselves, the housing authority

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and Alan. Horrified, I think, was probably the reaction I had. It's

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not my wall and I don't see why I should make the contribution to

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something I don't own. The dispute isn't just over who

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owns the wall, but what type of wall it is. Alan thinks it's a

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decorative measure. But the council says it's a retaining wall that's

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holding back the bank of earth below Alan's house.

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It's an argument that has rumbled on for more than 20 months. Has is

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taken over your life? It's quite distressing, in fact. Sleepless

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nights, I wake up writing letters in my head and to a certain extent

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there's always a little bit of apprehension when the postman comes

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too, I wonder what on earth's going to be in the post this time.

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With such a colossal amount hanging in the balance, we've asked

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chartered surveyor Tim Davies to examine the wall to find out how

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much it would cost to rebuild. Well, Tim, you've had a chance to

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take a look now. Is this outer wall a retaining wall? The outer wall,

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Lucy, is the decorative part of the wall. It's not a retaining

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structure itself. The council have said the cost of rebuilding this

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wall would be �30,000. What do you make of that? For that sort of

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money you can do an awful lot of work. There are definitely ways of

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doing this wall a lot cheaper. you give us a ball park figure? How

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much do you think it would cost? I'd have thought maybe around

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�5,000 or �6,000 if they used a much simpler form of construction,

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like gabian baskets or a crib lock system.

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We've put Tim's findings to Powys Council but they're refusing to

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budge. They still think it is a retaining wall. And remember their

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offer to share the cost of rebuilding? Well, there's been a U-

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turn on that, the council now wants Alan to pay the whole cost of the

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rebuild - �30,000! It's an enormous amount of money and it's more than

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we have and, of course at our age, there's no way we can raise a loan

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and anticipate paying it back over a period of time. So it really is a

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non-starter from our point of view. And Alan's worried the council are

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determined to recover the cost of any new wall from him, no matter

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how long they have to wait. We feel bullied, threatened.

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Instead of coming to us and talking in a sensible and relaxed,

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civilised way, I feel that it has been very aggressive and heavy-

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handed. No one at Powys council would talk

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to us, so Alan has written one final plea to the chief executive

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of Powys council, asking him to reconsider. And I've decided to

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deliver it in person. Well, I've handed in the letter to Powys

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Council. Let's hope they take on board what Alan has to say.

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So, has Powys County Council had any second thoughts? Well,

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unfortunately not. They say they've always tried to deal with the

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couple fairly and don't want to cause them undue stress and anxiety.

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But they still maintain that Alan and his wife are liable for the

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cost of the wall. Now let's get back to those charity

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mail shots - earlier in the programme we heard from David

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Llewelyn-Edwards whose elderly mother-in-law has been overwhelmed

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by requests for her cash. So are we getting too many appeals? We've

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come to Talbot Green to find out what people here think.

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Charity mail shots. Do you have lots of these through your

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letterbox? Yes, we do. How do you feel about it? Load of rubbish.

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Why? Well it's a pain, isn't it, when you think about it. Because it

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only goes in recycling. If there's Ty Hafan or something for Cancer,

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then I am interested in receiving that.

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It's quite difficult to decide what to do because there's so many good

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causes and you can't make up your mind what to do - the best thing to

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support really. I don't take much notice of them because I know it's

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junk mail and I just rip them up and chuck them in the bin. Do you

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think it's a good thing or a bad thing these are coming through your

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mailbox? It's nice to have the opportunity to choose, but

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sometimes there's quite a lot of it. And the charitible things where you

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have to return clothes, I don't tend to trust them. It's a bit yes

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and no, it varies how far they go. At the end of the day if you want

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to give to a charity I think you would not be sending letters and

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all that. Some interesting views. And if you

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are fed up with a glut of charity mailings coming through your door,

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there are ways to complain. You can sign up to the Mail Preference

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Service, or you can complain to the Fundraising Standards Board. We've

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put the details on our website. Or you can give us a call to get the

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addresses. Next - time for Lucy to get On The

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Case. Like many young boys, 18-month-old

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Jacob loves cars. So his mum Stacy thought she'd found the ideal

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Christmas present for her budding Jenson Button. Hi, Lucy. I ordered

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a racing car bed for my little boy ages ago and it still hasn't come,

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please can you help me? $$NEWLINe I'm on the case. Stacey Davies

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thought she'd been really organised, ordering her sons Christmas present

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back in August. His new racing car bed should have been delivered well

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in time for the big day. But her plans have come screeching to a

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halt. Hi, Lucy. Hello, Stacy. Come on in. Well, I can see that Jacob

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likes his cars, doesn't he? Oh, he loves them, anything to do with

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cars. So he'd play with them all the time? Yeah, yeah. So you

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must've been so excited when you found this racing car bed online,

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what was it like? The new bed Stacy found for Jacob

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was a white road racer bed and mattress from online company

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mykidsbed who are based in Northern Ireland. She paid �430 back in

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August and the full amount was taken from her bank account. She

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was told the bed would arrive within 4-8 weeks.

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After about 9 weeks I started to get a bit worried so I tried

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starting to contact them and that's when the problems started. I

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couldn't get hold of them emails, faxes, calls. No response at all?

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I've had no response at all. then you saw something pop up

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online? One day I thought, "I'll go on the website and have a little

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check," and I noticed there was a customer notice on there just

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saying they weren't taking any further orders until January next

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year and there was a helpline number for existing customers.

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Stacy called the helpline, but it was a number for a completely

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different company who happened to be based in the same building. They

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told Stacy they were inundated with calls from unhappy customers

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waiting for deliveries from mykidsbed. So how are you feeling

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because this was Jacobs big Xmas present, wasn't it? This is going

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to be his main first proper Xmas as he's a bit older and he understands

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a lot more. I just wanted it to be special for him and I didn't want

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to disappoint him. So, Stacy, what would you like me to do? If you

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could just get me his bed for Xmas. Stacy - I'm on the case. Well, we

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managed to track down mykidsbed and ask them about Stacy's order. They

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told us that the Director responsible for the management and

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day-to-day running of the company is no longer working there. But

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they are continuing to deal with the backlog and are striving to

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ensure that all customers receive their order. And they say Stacy's

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bed has now been dispatched and should be delivered shortly.

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Hi, Lucy, we've had our bed. Thank you very much, you really have made

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our Xmas really special this year now. Jacob really is going to have

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the perfect Christmas now, so thank you. And that's another case closed.

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Good result. Now, we do hear about quite a few leaking conservatories

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on this programme, but not everyone captures their leaking conservatory

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on film. An estate agent might describe this

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as a unique water feature - it's certainly that, as well as being

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the biggest leak in a conservatory built only two years ago by a

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company called Unique Windows. grand down the drain, literally,

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with all the water we're having. Meurin Williams and his partner

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Mary Hancock live in Capel Hendre near Ammanford - they wanted this

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conservatory to be the focus of their home - warm, dry, somewhere

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they could sit in comfort. These two former weightlifters were

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both British champions in their day, Mary represented Wales at the

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Commonwealth Games just a decade ago. Now they want to put their

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feet up and take things easy. Particularly after a busy summer

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where Mary was a referee during the weighlifting at the London Olympics.

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What were you hoping for from this conservatory? Comfort. Room and

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plenty of lighting. It was to get out of an enclosed area, small area,

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small rooms. You can see everything that's going on, a bit of wildlife

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behind us. Two years ago they chose local firm,

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Unique Windows, to build their conservatory. It cost them �10,000.

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He's just across the road from where we live, and I assumed that

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if and when a problem arose he would be down here immediately to

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sort it out. But within weeks of work being finished their new

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conservatory sprung its first leak - and since then they've began

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keeping a video diary of their problems. And it's quite a disaster

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movie... We had the conservatory put up in

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November. The diary begins in January last

:25:09.:25:19.
:25:19.:25:25.

year.... After last night's rain, continue. Emptying out the water

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that collects at the top of the conservatory has become a regular

:25:27.:25:29.

chore. Is that a cloth I can see up in

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there? Yeah, put the cloth there to absorb the water. Can you hold that

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for a second? Yeah, I can. This isn't going to be some trick now,

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is it? I feel like I'm going to get soaked. Gosh, careful you're

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getting soaked. Good lord! Their video evidence has kept

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growing and the couple say they keep complaining to Unique Windows.

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And the company has been out several times over the past two

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years to try to fix the problems. At one stage they tried a very

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unusual method to trace the leak. The crown of the conservatory -

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they bubblewrapped it, and taped it up with brown tape. It looked a

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hell of a sight. But they said then that that would cure, or they could

:26:16.:26:26.

isolate the leak. It doesn't sound very scientific? No! It didn't cure

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the leak, either. So who exactly are Unique Windows?

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Well, here's the man behind the company - Steve Fleetham. He's also

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a director of another West Wales firm, Hendre Homes, and he and his

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wife Jackie are quite a big noise in the world of horse racing.

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Together they own around a dozen race horses. But, according to Mary

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and Meurin, the company haven't been racing to put right the

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problems in the conservatory. And when Mary's visited their offices,

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Mr Fleetham didn't exactly offer a warm welcome.

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He just started shouting above me, and he told me that he didn't have

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to speak to me because I didn't own the house, and if I didn't get out

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of his office now he was going to throw me out.

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It was daunting, but the couple were determined not to give up.

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September, it was Meurin's turn to pay the company a visit.

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Again he asked Mr Fleetham to sort out the leaks, and says he was

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assured they would be out to do the job on the next dry day.

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The couple have kept count since then - despite the wet autumn, they

:27:31.:27:41.
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say they've had 18 dry days when the repairs could have been done.

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He knows what he's doing all the time. He just palms us off with

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different dates, different excuses. Well, we've got good news for Mary

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and Meirin. Unique Windows have told us they accept the couple

:27:53.:27:56.

haven't had the service they deserved in the past. They say

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they've tried to fix a date to do the work several times, but they've

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now arranged to visit them within the next couple of days to put

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those leaks right. We'll be checking.

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Well, that's it for this week. Next week we're investigating the latest

:28:07.:28:12.

trend for a night out. Smoking a Shisha pipe - used to be something

:28:12.:28:15.

you might try out on a holiday abroad. But now shisha bars are

:28:15.:28:18.

springing up in Welsh cities. We go undercover to find out who's

:28:18.:28:23.

smoking what, and whether they're breaking the law.

:28:23.:28:26.

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