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You are watching X-Ray. On tonight's programme:

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No money, no job. Why Andre is leading an invisible life.

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Coral - the betting chain refusing to pay out on Nigel and Rob's big

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win? And is this fraudster up to his old

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tricks? Hello, we are back.

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And we are ready to fight your battles.

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First, we all complain about the tax man, but one family from Neath

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has more reason than most to feel unhappy with the way HM Revenue and

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Customs have treated them. Lucy has been investigating.

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Can you remember what you were up to when you turned 20?

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Oh, I can't remember that far back. Courting. Drinking, dancing as we

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do. Sounds like fun to me! Most of us would agree that it is a

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pretty special time having fun, growing up and finding your way in

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the world. But one young man has had a dark

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cloud hanging over him that has deprived of all those experiences.

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Andre Gysler was born 20 years ago in Neath. He has happy memories of

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the first 15 years growing up with his mum Helena Peters and his

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little brother Tarryn. But since then something has been missing in

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then something has been missing in Andre's life - something so vital

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that it put his life on hold for years.

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All his friends were coming back and forth, and saying they had

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their national insurance numbers so I thought, "Well, where's Andre's?"

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So when you first discovered that he didn't have his national

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insurance number, were you worried? Not at all. I phoned HMRC, the

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national insurance helpline. They said there was an issue with it and

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they were going to send a form out. That form came. We were asked as

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well at that time to provide a birth certificate.

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Helena and Andre sent the forms back and waited for the national

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insurance number to arrive. This little card may not look very

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exciting. But without this all- important number it is almost

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impossible to have a normal life. Most people get sent their number

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from HMRC just before their 16th birthday. It is how the Government

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keeps track of you in the social security system. Without your NI

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number employers will not take you on. You can't claim benefits And

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when you retire you will not be able to claim your pension. In fact

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it is so important that without one Andre has watched his future

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disappear bit by bit. He had hoped to become an electrician but he had

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to leave college because he could not get financial support. And when

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he tried to get an apprenticeship or find work, no-one would take him

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on because he wasn't part of the system.

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Can't sign on, can't work cos I have no NI number. I managed to get

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through my first year of the electrics course, but I couldn't

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keep up with the finance on the second. So I had to drop out of

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college. The past five years have taken

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their toll on Andre's health. Severely depressed to the point

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where he has been self harming and attempted to cut his own wrists and

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taken pills. It must be devastating for you to

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see him like that? Andre and Helena have been trying

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to sort this out for years. They have contacted HM Revenue and

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Customs again and again, enlisting the help of their local MP and AM.

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It has been going on since 2007, so that is five years.

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How do you feel about the way that they have been dealing with it in

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that time? They haven't been dealing with it

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and frustration doesn't come close. It does not come close. It Is like

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knocking your head against a brick wall and every time that wall gets

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And it is not just Andre's life that has been affected by this

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missing number. Financially, I am keeping three

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people instead of keeping myself and my younger son which means my

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younger son has had to go without. Emotionally devastating for my son

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because, obviously, as a man of 20 he wants some social life which he

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can't really have, which means I've got to provide money. Which again,

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for him, is degrading to have to ask for that money.

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So why has Andre been left waiting for so long to get his national

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insurance number? Well, it could all stem back to this his birth

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Andre was born in 1992, but a paternity dispute meant that a year

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later his birth was re-registered with some new details. Helena says

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she has been told that the information on Andre's certificate

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doesn't match with her child But HMRC haven't just stuck to one

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excuse for the delay. Helena says she has also been told it could

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have been caused by a spelling mistake in Andre's name. At one

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stage they even claimed it was because Andre came from Poland

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despite him being born in Neath to It is a terrible situation and it

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has left Andre feeling like life is just passing him by.

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I've got no life. All I do is sit around the house and look after the

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dog, basically. Cos I can't do what a normal person my age would do, I

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can't go out, I can't enjoy myself. A person can only take so much

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This summer Helena and Andre decided enough was enough, they

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filed judicial review papers in Cardiff.

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When we asked HMRC why, after years of waiting, Andre still hasn't been

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issued with a national insurance number they seemed to have run out

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of excuses. They said they are sorry for the problems Andre's had

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and the inconvenience it has caused. But they couldn't comment on his

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case because of tax-payer confidentiality.

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To say a man's life for 5 years is Shocking.

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But there is now some good news. Since we got in touch with them,

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HMRC have now issued Andre with a National Insurance number.

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At last. The family are determined that they will still go through

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with the Judicial Review process, but at least now they can begin to

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make plans for Andre's future. It is not going to be easy for them,

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but we wish him all the best. feels like I have something to do

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now. Yes, get a job. Exactly. And still to come tonight:

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How low-energy light bulbs are making Mary ill.

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And why won't Coral betting come clean on their rules?

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Before that though, Rachel has an update on a rogue we featured

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Flamboyant businessman Harby Panesar from the Vale of Glamorgan.

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He ran Motorcar Elite, selling car warranties through garages across

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Wales. He wasn't afraid to flaunt his

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wealth, spending a reported �20,000 on his daughter's televised

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birthday party. But for his customers, it was a

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different story. When Beverley and Adrian Reynolds from Cwmcarn tried

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to claim on their �700 policy, they discovered it wasn't valid. And

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they weren't alone, hundreds of worthless warranties had been sold

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across the UK. We caught up with Harby back in February.

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Have you nothing to say? At this point, no will stop you will answer

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questions at that time? Not right now it is not the right time.

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It wasn't just his customers he was conning. Back in 2008 he ran a

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different company called Motorcare Warranties. One of his insurance

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backers sued for more than �2 million. The judge banned him from

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taking any money out of the firm but Harby ignored that.

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In March, Harby Panesar was found in contempt of court for breaching

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that ban. He should have gone to prison for 9

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months, but he appealed the sentence claiming that putting him

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behind bars would have a devastating effect on his family.

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At the appeal the judges ruled that suspending Panesar's sentence for

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two years would be enough to satisfy the public interest and so

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Andrew Rafferty from Hirwaun was left �800 pounds out of pocket

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after buying a Motorcare Warranty. He is not satisfied.

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Obviously you feel let down by the British justice system, what do you

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have to do to actually go to jail? For us people, we're hundreds of

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pounds out of pocket. Harby's car warranty business may

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have closed down in Wales, but X- Ray has discovered that he had set

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his sights on a much bigger market. We found him listed as the Managing

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Member of a Florida-based car warranty company Auto Care

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Guarantees. Sounds familiar, The company is registered to

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Harby's wife Caroline. The Panasar's have told us they did

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set up a business, but they've now abandoned it. But according to the

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Florida State Department the business is still active.

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Very annoyed to think that he could go out now and start another

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business off. Not only being let off a jail sentence, but going and

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starting another business, doing exactly the same over in America.

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Obviously somebody needs to do something about it.

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We will be keeping an eye on that situation. Remember if there is

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situation. Remember if there is anything you would like us to look

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into, then get in touch. The phone into, then get in touch. The phone

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lines are open or you can send us an e-mail. It would be great if you

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could leave us a daytime phone number so that we can contact you

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straightaway, and remember you can straightaway, and remember you can

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follow us on twitter too! Now, since September, traditional

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light bulbs like these are no longer being manufactured. Many of

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the larger stores are no longer stocking them, but you can still

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buy them in smaller shops, and stalls like this one in Cardiff

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market. How keen are people here? Most people. As a blind elderly,

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some of the young people as well because there are brighter at an

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energy-saving once. -- energy- saving ones.

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So which do shoppers here in Cardiff market prefer?

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Don't like the light from the low- energy bulbs. You can't see to read.

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They're fantastic because the last and the do not take up much energy.

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They brighten up later. You wait around half an hour for a full

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brilliance. Do you use them at home? Yes. A

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heady you find them? They're all right.

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For some people they can cause serious problems though.

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The incandescent bulb has served us well for more than 100 years,

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lighting every room of our homes. Sadly, the granddad of the lighting

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world is definitely showing his age. These new boys use up to 80% less

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electricity to do the same job and last up to ten times longer.

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They are meaner and leaner on the money front too. Switch all your

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older style bulbs to low energy ones and you could save up to �55 a

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year. So going green on lighting is good

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news for the environment AND our pockets. But there are some people

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reluctant to switch - and it's about more than nostalgia.

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Around 30 to 40,000 people in the UK who have light-sensitive

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conditions could be affected by the light emitted from low-energy bulbs,

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the main problem is with this one, the compact fluorescent lamp.

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Mary Hannah, from Treffgarne, near Haverfordwest has the auto-immune

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Well, I'm affected by the low energy bulbs very badly. They make

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me rashy and achy all over and throbbing and just feeling

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exhausted. Over half of lupus sufferers are

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light sensitive. After being diagnosed in 2007, Mary quickly

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realised new low energy bulbs in her home were triggering her

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symptoms. I decided I'd have to change all

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the bulbs and it made a huge difference. I felt much better. It

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was a safe place that I could be where I could recover from feeling

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achy and having palpatations and all the bad symptoms.

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Mary's sensitive to sunlight, too, so can no longer help husband Tom

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on the farm. He says seeing her suffer's been tough on the whole

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family. You see her welling up, almost

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crying, and you reliase then how much of a struggle it is. If you

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ask someone to turn off a light they look at you as if you're mad

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or trying to be awkward but you're just trying to make life a little

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bit more bearable. And Mary's not alone. People with

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other complaints, from skin conditions to migraine, have

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reported feeling unwell after being near low energy bulbs. Several

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charities have highlighted the issue and some want the UK

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government to review the ban on manufacture so that old bulbs are

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available to those affected. With traditional light bulbs

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getting more difficult to find, Mary's got a back-up plan to ensure

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she's always has them in her own home.

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She is so sensitive to any UV light, she needs to wear head-to-toe

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protection in order to show me where she keeps her precious

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collection of old-style bulbs. Well, all together, I think I've

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probably got about 500. Every time they say 100 w are being banned and

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then 60s, I panic and buy a load before they run out. They are

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getting more expensive and harder to get so it is a worry.

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It just seems so unfair. Mary needs them and to be denied them just

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seems cruel. So why do some low energy bulbs

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affect people like Mary? Experts have looked into several

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possibilities but the most significant is something consultant

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medical physicist Dr Chris Edwards can explain.

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These two lamps emit light in entirely different ways. The

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incandescnet lamp uses a glowing filament to generate its light. The

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compact flourescent tube uses ultra violet light which then excites the

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white phospher. That means that some of that Ultra Violet light can

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escape and cause problems to people who have sensitive skin. I've

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analysed the output of these lamps and the UV output from this bare

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compact flourescent tube is five times that of the incandescent tube.

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As more and more homes and public buildings switch over to low energy

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bulbs, Mary's daily life is becoming more limited.

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This is a church I come to in our village and they've been very good

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and put in the old-fashioned bulbs for me. Which means it's a safe

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place I can come and just enjoy the service and not be badly affected.

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How do you deal with life socially and going out to places?

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I have a little bag of bulbs that I take with me to friends' houses and

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to family so I can sort all their lights out so that I'm safe in

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their houses. The UK Government insists low

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energy bulbs aren't dangerous to the public and says there are

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alternatives that light sensitive people can use. Compact

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flourescents with an extra cover reduce UV while super-efficient

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LEDs emit virtually no ultra violet lights. But Mary feels neither work

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for her. The prospect of running out of old bulbs is a big worry.

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It'll be very lonely because I'll just be trapped here and life

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wouldn't hardly be worth living if you can't get out and go see people.

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I'd be a prisoner in my own home. Well, what are your thoughts? Are

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you stockpiling bulbs? Or are you all in favour of low energy ones?

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And did you know that these contain mercury, so it's really important

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that they're recycled safely. We've put some more about that on our

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wesite, so have a look if you need to know where to take them.

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Next, Lucy's on the case. Richard Hicks is a lecturer in

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plumbing, so when he splashed out hundreds on a new bathroom suite,

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he expected it to be built to last. Our shower tray's cracked. It moves

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under foot. Better Bathrooms won't reimburse us with the full cost of

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replacement. Lucy, can you please help us?

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I'm on the case The Hicks family spent �1,700 on a

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new suite from Better Bathrooms. Better Bathrooms? Not from what

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I've heard. Hi, Richard, how are you? Nice to

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see you. Hi, Lucy,

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Richard, let's see what we can do about this shower of yours. Let's

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go and take a look at this shower. Guessing your bathroom read on was

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a very important part of preparing your retirement. Yes. Why did you

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want to go with better bathrooms? It was affordable. Let's take a

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look at the Shah. I'll follow you up. This is the bathroom. Now, the

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bathroom is looking lovely. Let's take a look at this crack. I can

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see it straight away already. Yeah, yeah, it's quite obvious

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It is. Is it getting worse? Yes, it is.

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And what's the problem with the sponginess of the shower tray?

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What you'll find, you can't see it very much now, but once you put

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warm water on, that will lift up quite considerably.

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So, the hot water's been running and what is the.. Oh, gosh! I can

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see a really big difference, actually. That's gone very springy

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now, hasn't it? Yeah. Quite a big area.

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It's unnerving. If you're taking a shower you can see it move. It

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could possibly cause an injury. Richard knows a thing or two about

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bathrooms because of his job. He knew the problem wasn't caused by

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anything he'd done in fitting it. Richard, with your job, you're a

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lecturer in plumbing. How does it make you feel when you see work

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like this and a product like this? I'm very disappointed. It's not a

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fault in the installation, it's a fault in manufacture, that's quite

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apparent. Better Bathrooms agreed there was a

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problem and told Richard they would replace the shower tray. They asked

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him to get a quote but when Richard told them that because the bathroom

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was quite small, the work was harder to do and would cost �375,

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Better Bathrooms started to haggle. They got back to me to say they

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were only prepared to pay �175. Unhappy with that, I gave them a

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sort of account of what needed to be done, the appliances to be

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removed so that the shower tray could be replaced. They've upped

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their offer to �250 but it was still �125 short of the full amount

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of �375 and I'm very concerned that I'm expected to meet that cost.

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So, Richard, what would you like me to do?

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I would really like you to recover the full coast of �375.

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I'm on the case. Well, when we got in touch with

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Better Bathrooms, incredibly, they were still disputing that the work

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would cost �375. They told us claims like this are often

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overstated. That seems a bit rich, given that Richard had offered to

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get another quote for them and had explained that the size of the

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bathroom made it more difficult and expensive to refit the shower tray.

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Well, the good news, after we'd contacted them and having reviewed

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the case, Better Bathrooms has now agreed to pay up.

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Hi, Lucy. The plumber is on his way. We're sure to have a new shower

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tray fitted and it's all down to your hard work. Thank you very much.

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Job done! Now, Rachel's been looking at the

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secretive rules that determine whether your bet on the gee gees is

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valid. The beauty and the thrill of horse

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racing. Just watching these beautiful creatures even on the

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training gallops in Ebbw Vale is incredibly exciting. So it's no

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surprise whatsoever that they are at the centre of a huge spectator

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But are fans being treated fairly Brothers Rob and Nigel McBurney

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don't think so. They come from a racing mad family in Bargoed.

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My father. He used to bet all the time and when he used to do a

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little flutter and I would have a go and we'd carry on just like that.

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So, was it a lot of money? No, just small money - fivers,

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twenty pence bets, pound each way accumulator, that type of thing.

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Last year, their dad Bob died. A few weeks later, his widow decided

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to place a bet on four of his favourite horses. Rob took the

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complex �5 stake to the family bookmaker, Coral in Bargoed.

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So, how much did you stand to win on this �5 bet?

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�68,000. �68,000? On �5?

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Yes, because a lot of the horses were high prices.

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The key to the bet was 40-1 outsider Bold Ring. It won the

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first race. In the following two races, they also had winners. Then

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there was just one more to go. We just sat there all quiet looking

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at the teletext and it was her horse. She was jumping for joy.

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Never seen her like that. Rob headed to Coral to pick up his

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mother's winnings - �68,000. Handed the slip in and said, "Could

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you tell me what that is?" and the cashier said it is two thousand

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something. I said, "No, it is a lot more than that".

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But he was told it wasn't. Because he'd placed the big 40-1 bet on the

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first race in the accumulator too late and therefore it didn't count.

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It was devastating news when they said it was void. It was heart

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sinking for me because I put the bet on and I had to go to the house

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and break the news. The family had become victims of

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Coral's late bets rule. The late bets rule is designed to

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stop cheating. Bookies often allow you to put money on a horse after a

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race has started but obviously it wouldn't be fair to bet on a

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winning horse just as it's about to cross the line.

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We've obtained a copy of the race. And 53 seconds after the start when

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Robbie placed his bet, Bold Ring is in 8th place, not looking like a

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winner at all. Until a turn of When they actually did look into it

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after three or four weeks, they got back and said we couldn't find

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anything untoward about what you'd done. You were just a little bit

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too late. Which I think is a bit harsh lately.

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Rob has appealed to the betting arbitration body IBAS. They've

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investiagated, but they too say that he broke the late bets rule.

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But what exactly are the rules? They seems to vary from bookie to

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bookie. Here at Ladbrokes, the terms and

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conditions clearly state you can't bet more than 30 seconds after the

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start of a race. It's a clear and straightforward system.

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But in other betting shops, the rules aren't so clear.

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This is the Coral betting shop where the McBuyrney's placed their

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bet. And their terms and conditions say something quite different.

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It says a that a "no more bets time will be automatically generated by

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their electronic EPOS system". But how? There is no clue as to

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whether that is three seconds into a race or 53 seconds. They just

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don't say how they work it out. I've come to Welshpool to meet one

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race-lover who's outraged by this system. Former MP, lawyer and

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racehorse owner Delwyn Williams has been helping the McBurneys fight

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their case. He's been looking at the late-bets rule.

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The Coral's punter doesn't have full knowledge of the contractual

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terms he is going to face when he makes a bet.

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So how do you think the system should work then?

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I think they should clearly state in their rules and in their offices

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what the time limits for placing bets are.

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He believes Coral should be paying out to the McBurneys.

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His father had bet with Corals for most of his life in that betting

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shop in Bargoed. Now Coral's say no. We were happy to take your money

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during your lifetime but we are not hapy to pay your widow and son what

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most people in the public arena would say is owing to them.

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Sadly for the McBurney family, Coral are sticking to their guns.

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They still say they'll only pay out the �2,000 won on the later races,

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rather than the �68,000 the family believe they've won. And they won't

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tell us how they work out exactly when they stop taking money on a

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race or why they don't stop taking bets once the deadline's passed.

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Nigel and Rob are now considering legal action. We'll let you know

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how they get on. That's just about it for this week.

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Or you're struggling to get a company to listen to you...

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We're here to help. You can give us a call on 03703 334

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