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Had he been ripped off? We are here to fight for your rights. Spotting

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the latest scams and making sure you make the most of your money. They've

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got you over a barrel as it were and you're obliged to say yes because

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it's got to be done. Confronting the conmen, we are here to help you

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fight back. Tonight, the problem that is filling

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up our in tray - the cold calling firms that offer you a free green

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deal boiler. I haven't had anything. I still have my orignal boiler and I

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haven't had anything. Now we turn the tables and ring them up. You are

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actually qualifying for this boiler. I qualify? Yes for the boiler, you

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actually do qualify for the boiler. Why is Josh's love affair with this

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Italian sports car heading for a break up? There's a lot of noise, a

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lot of juddering, the smell of burning. We discover the tricks

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criminals are using to get your money out of the cash machine.

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For months we've been inundated with complaints about the green companies

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that claim to get you free boilers or insulation. Some of you have paid

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them up to ?400 and they're not going away. Rachel's been looking at

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the latest batch trying to take your money. They said I was coming out to

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the countryside to sort out the Green Deal, this isn't quite what I

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had in mind. The Green Deal's keeping me busy for all the wrong

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reasons. Within months of its launch we were getting complaints about

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people being ripped off by Green Deal rogues. Now, we've been

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inundated! It's difficult to know where to start with this lot. We've

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had hundreds of complaints about 19 companies who cold-call and try to

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persuade you that the Green Deal is right for you. Some have already

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featured on X-Ray. We had more than 80 calls about the now defunct Eco

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Green Deal Solutions. And more than 100 about Becoming Green. But what

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about all the rest? Dozens and dozens of calls about companies that

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you've told us don't deliver what they've promised. We've taken a

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closer look at two of the most complained about companies. First up

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- Swansea based Green Deal Network, run by 33-year-old Gareth Meloni,

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former director of a controversial PPI reclaim company. And second -

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Green Deal Direct, also in Swansea. It's run by this man, Mohammed

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Pasha. He also does PPI reclaim. So what do these companies tell their

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customers? I was promised a new boiler and that I wouldn't have to

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pay any more money. Only the one off payment. They were offering free

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boilers and windows with a government scheme. They asked me

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would I like a free boiler, which at the time my boiler had just broken

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down so I said yes. They all paid hundreds of pounds for assessments

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after getting cold calls. But did they get the full story about the

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Green Deal? Nobody ever mentioned the word loan. And yet when I had

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the paperwork back, I went through it and thought, they're not giving

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you anything. This is a loan which you have to pay back. They never

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told me it was a loan. They never mentioned no loan, no nothing. It

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was definitely a free government scheme. Everyone's had a survey, but

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what about the free boiler? I haven't had nothing. I still have my

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original boiler and I haven't had anything. I hadn't received anything

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and phoned them on many occasions but couldn't get through. And they

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just said, you had paid for the survey. I was definitely

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misinformed. The Green Deal's not a hard thing to understand. We take

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out a loan to pay make your home more energy efficient. We pay

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interest on that loan but unlike a normal loan, the repayments are

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added to your energy bills. Now in theory, those repayments should be

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covered by the savings we make on our bills. So why are so many of us

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failing to understand when we're cold called? Is it perhaps the cold

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calling companies not telling the whole story? To find out, we posed

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as customers. And guess what, there were lots of misleading statements.

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At number three - some interesting claims about how safe you'll be if

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you pay by debit card. We use a Visa and debit card. The reason we do

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this is because it protects you against any type of fraud.

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That's rubbish. The consumer credit act won't protect debit card

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payments. And just because a company can process payment cards, that

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doesn't mean it's legit. At number two, they say law demands we have a

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survey. That is so misleading. You only need

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a certificate like this if you sell or rent your home! But the winner

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is, the more energy efficient you are, the less council tax you are

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going to pay. They're making it up. Your council tax has nothing to do

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with energy efficiency! But are these just mistakes or could these

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companies be breaking the law? I've asked consumer law expert Huw Evans

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to take a look. First he hears claims about the potential savings.

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Your energy bills are going to be reduced as a result of this.

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The clip seemed to imply that because the gas boiler was more

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efficient, you would use less gas. That is clearly not the case. You

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pay for the gas you use. OK, so for the next clip.

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They cannot say that. That is the assessor's job. There is no

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guarantee until such time as the assessor says there is an

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entitlement. In parts of the tape they say it is subject to

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assessment. But at the same time they're saying that there are

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guarantees. There is an underlying impression and listening to it, I

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can see why a person might think they are entitled. But finally, can

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they be straight about the key financial questions?

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Yes, yes, yes, it is a loan. And it's repayable with interest over a

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period of time, it's maybe as long as 25 years. And it is also a debt

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on the house. Sum up then what you feel about what you have heard? I

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think it is unacceptable, it's mis-selling. It is not telling

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people the nature of the products. Are they breaking the law? On what I

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have heard, there are breaches of the regulations as far as misleading

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information is concerned. Well, we've tried to speak to both of

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these companies. But the Green Deal Network has refused to make any

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comment on the allegations or to do anything for its unhappy customers.

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Greeen Deal Direct, on the other hand, have promised Julie, who you

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saw in the film there, a full refund and they have offered Neil a ?100

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part refund. What do they have to say about all that inaccurate

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information that their call handlers gave to us? Well, apparantly if we'd

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been real customers we'd have spoken to a senior advisor and a quality

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control team. They would have given us the correct information. They say

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the call handler had no intention of misleading us. She was either

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explaining things badly or was unsure of the relevant processes.

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But the good news is that they have suspended their Green Deal marketing

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activities until staff have been retrained. And the longer that

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takes, the better for everyone! Now, every second, around ?6,000 is

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withdrawn from one of these but it's not just you that could be trying to

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get your money out of the hole in the wall. Last year the total cost

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of cash machine fraud in the UK came to nearly ?30 million. Criminals are

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constantly coming up with new ways to get their hands on your money as

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Dawn Andrew-King from Llandeilo knows only too well. In March this

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year, Dawn was withdrawing some cash from a machine in the town when she

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noticed two suspicious looking men sat in a nearby car. It was first

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thing in the morning and you don't normally see a lot of people around

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at that time. When one of the men approached Dawn, warning bells

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started to ring. I used the cash machine and then I turned around. He

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was behind me and I spoke to him, and he asked me if it was

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Easter-time and I said, no, it's next week, and I just thought it was

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very suspicious. Realising something wasn't right, Dawn wrote down the

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car's registration number and handed it over to the police. It turns out,

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the machine had been tampered with, and a device fitted into the card

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machine slot. It was very upsetting and quite scary really because you

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don't want your details brandished here, there and everywhere. I didn't

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know if they had taken my money, whether they had circulated my

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details anywhere because they can do some awful things. Dawn put a stop

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on her card and thanks to her tip-off, police were able to track

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the car - catching the culprits. Earlier this year, they both pleaded

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guilty to fraud and were jailed. I'm so glad I had the foresight to jot

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down that number plate down and not just ignore the matter - a lot of

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people could have been defrauded out of a lot of money.

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Wow, pretty scary stuff. A big well done to Dawn for her quick thinking.

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Tony Blake is part of a specialist police team in London dedicated to

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cutting cash machine fraud. Tony, what exactly were those guys doing?

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It's called card skimming. Here's a skimming device here. Something

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similar to this we would have used. And this looks like part of the ATM

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and they go in through the card throat there. They download the

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details onto the card magnetic stripe on the other cards. So what

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would they then do with those details? They get another card and

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put your details onto that card. But to use that card they would need

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your PIN number, wouldn't they? They would, and if you look at this

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machine, it's a dummy machine. If you enter a four figure pin as you

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would normally do. This isn't part of the machine. This is made to look

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like part of the machine but inside we've fitted a camera which actually

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looks down onto the pin pad. So if you look up under there. You would

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never know that is there? This is one we took from a criminal. It's

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just a mobile phone and there's the pin hole there. That is absolutey

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tiny, isn't it? It's just a mobile phone and they'll set that on video

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and they record and capture your pin details. Anything else we need to be

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aware of, Tony? Yes. They also use one of these little devices, which

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is to trap your card. Now, again, you won't see these. They're really

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cleverly disguised. This piece of metal goes inside the machine and

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what happens is you put your card in, you enter your pin, it's again

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captured by a camera. That device there doesn't allow your card to be

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returned to you so, eventually, you have to walk away. You don't have

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your card or your cash. The criminal comes along, pulls this device out

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with your card attached to it. They've now got your chipped card.

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They've got your pins as well. So, effectively, they've now got control

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of all the money in your bank account. It is pretty clever stuff,

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isn't it? So what can we do to be one step ahead and protect

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ourselves? They do something which we call shoulder surfing, which is

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effectively just looking round your shoulder. So you should be aware of

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people behind you or they can film you. Perhaps make sure you're nice

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and close to the machine and you're not allowing anyone to look over

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your shoulder. But the thing to prevent both skimming and card

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trapping is to cover your pin properly and by that I mean really

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use your wallet or your purse. That's the most effective way, I

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find. So I use my wallet. I put it over the keypad and I can still see

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it at the front but even if the cameras are there or there, which

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sometimes they are, then it's going to be hidden from view because of

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the wallet. Really good advice, Tony. Thank you.

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Still to come. We reveal the rogues behind a

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driveway scam that cost elderly victims thousands of pounds.

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He really did a good selling job when he came because I believed him.

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But first, Rachel's been to meet one viewer whose dream of owning a shiny

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Italian sports car has started to tarnish.

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Italian style combined with a place in motorsport history. For just over

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a century, Alfa Romeos have promised glamour and brute engine power.

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Easy, then, to see what made Josh Hobbs, an RAF engineer living in

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Cardiff, fall in love with this car. The name Alfa Romeo, they're

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beautiful cars. I'm a young lad, so I wanted a sports car, really. I

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guess Alfa Romeos are just small Ferraris, really. Good looks aside,

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this car should have been what they might call in the trade "a nice

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little motor" or "a sporty little run-around". That's how it was sold

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to Josh. A year old and 6,000 miles on the clock. The price? Nearly

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?17,000. Reassuringly, it had only had one owner, the garage itself.

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This car was their top of the range demonstration model.

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Tell me what it was like to drive this car for the very first time.

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Just driving second hand cars, I'd managed to scrape together the money

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for, to actually be able to treat myself to this. The first time I

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drove it, it was phenomenal. Just unbelievable. He bought it from an

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Alfa dealership in Cheltenham in May last year, but within eight months

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he was having problems. Everything from the electrics to a nasty

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screeching noise. Nothing glamorous or stylish about that.

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The first hitch I had was actually driving down the M4 motorway on my

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way back here to Cardiff. The electric windows decided they were

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going to just go down on their own, so I was obviously doing about

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70mph. With that kind of airflow coming in the car, it was quite

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horrifying. I had to drive all the way home with my fingers on the

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buttons, holding the windows up until I got home and managed to turn

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the car off. The windows were finally repaired under warranty, but

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no-one seemed prepared to deal with the other issues Josh was having. An

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odd whining noise on corners which no-one seemed able to fix, until it

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turned into something much more serious. In the middle lane of the

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motorway in quite busy traffic, and suddenly the brakes make this

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horrible squealing, screeching noise. The handbrake warning light

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comes on as if the handbrake was on. There's a lot of juddering, a lot of

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noise, the smell of burning. The car felt like someone had yanked the

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handbrake on. Were you scared? Was it frightening? Yeah, it was very

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scary. I was in busy traffic and suddenly, at that speed, how it

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would feel to have the handbrake yanked up all of a sudden. Josh

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limped along to the nearest services before calling out a recovery

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vehicle. The driver told him there was corrosion in his back brakes.

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The car comes with a manufacturer's three-year warranty, but that didn't

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seem to count for much when Josh got in touch with Alfa Romeo.

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I just get fobbed off, told it's not covered under warranty and different

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excuses arise for why it's not covered under warranty. As well as

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it's calling a premium rate number in Italy because that's the only way

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you seem able to get hold of Alfa Romeo. In the end, his finance

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company paid for the brake repairs, but there were plenty more wrong

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with the car. There's been panels coming apart, window seals popping

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out when you're driving down the road and just falling off. There's

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also quite a bad crack along the back boot lid where the metal has

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just come apart - split. OK, time for a pit stop. We need to

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get an expert opinion on all these problems Josh has been having.

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Gareth Rees is an independent vehicle inspector. He's agreed to

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take a look at Josh's car. OK, Gareth, let's tackle corrosion

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issues first, then. What can you see? First of all, Rachel, this car

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has just turned two years old and, basically, we wouldn't expect to see

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the amount of corrosion on the underside as we're seeing. You can

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see these points here. To me, that's poor sealing from manufacture. You

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can see the corrosion is starting to go there. We can also see there's

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corrosion going on on the drive shaft on there. And the brakes, of

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course? The handbrake cable has been replaced recently, as well as work

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doing to the brake system on this side. For a vehicle of this age and

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mileage, we wouldn't expect that to have taken place. OK, that's the

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underside. Shall we have a look at the exterior? What do you make of

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that? Well, that looks pretty serious, doesn't it? We've got

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delamination and fracturing on the bodywork. Now that I can see is

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letting in water already, so I'm clearly of the opinion this was

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there at the date of manufacture. This is going to devalue the vehicle

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and I'm suggesting Alfa Romeo should address this ASAP. That verdict will

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come as no surprise to Josh. His love affair with this Italian car is

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well and truly over. I'm just waiting for other things to go wrong

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with it, really, and Alfa Romeo to say they're not paying for it or not

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covering it under warranty. I'm just standing by, really.

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Well, Alfa Romeo say they take every customer complaint very seriously.

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They've told us they're investigating Josh's case and will

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be sending out an engineer to inspect his car. We'll keep you

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posted with what they find. On X-Ray we pride ourselves on never

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giving up on a case.Tonight we've got some great news about a few

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we've been following for a while. You might remember this man - John

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Cory Gould - the owner of Vale Caravans. Last year we sent Rachel

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to investigate after his business went under, taking with it ?70,000

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worth of caravans he'd promised to sell for other people. I went down

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to the premises to find it was chained up. The yard was empty. To

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this day I don't know where my van is and what happened to it.

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I actually looked him in the eye and asked him how he slept at night and

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he couldn't answer me. It also turns out he'd been trading

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whilst insolvent and lying to his customers. He's now been

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disqualified from being a company director for nine years. Now, this

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face might ring a bell with you. It's Paul Delamare. Back in 2011, he

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ran a company here in Swansea called Aurora Logistics. They pretended to

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be an official firm selling Sky warranties and lots of you were

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conned into buying one you didn't want or need. Well, he's just

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pleaded guilty to fraud and we'll let you know more early next year

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once he's been sentenced. And we can finally reveal the rogues at the

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centre of an investigation we featured more than a year ago.

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It's hard to understand why you believe in rogues, but I did believe

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him. Last summer, we were poised to

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reveal the identity of two rogue traders who'd just conned an elderly

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couple out of ?15,000. But just as we were preparing to act, so were

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the authorities. Trading Standards had also caught up with them. I

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certainly felt that we had to pursue this case to its Nth degree because

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we didn't want them visiting any more elderly people and committing

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the crimes they did because it was a particularly nasty incidents. So who

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were these men? Meet John William Price. And this is Steven

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Lavercombe. Together they made up National Landscapes Ltd, a

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maintenance and driveway firm that promised its customers expert work

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using trained professionals. Price and Lavercombe had perfected a

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classic driveway scam and it turned out they'd been ripping people off

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across South Wales. All of the methods that Mr Price used in this

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case were exactly as we see on a regular basis rogue traders. Very

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often the leaflets have photos of wonderful driveways, none of which

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they have worked on, so that's the start of the scam. Then, having read

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the leaflets, people phone them, they come out and offer a fairly low

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price job power wash the drive and then there will be some lose stones.

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They end up digging up the driveway and increasing the price to as high

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as they can get. So how were they finally brought to justice? Through

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the determination of two key witnesses. First to the stand was

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David Ormrod from Neath, who'd contacted X-Ray last year after

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Price agreed to lay a new driveway at cost of ?6,000. He really did a

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good selling job when he came, because I believed him. But just two

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days into the job, David came home to find a huge hole in front of his

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house. National Landscapes had dug up the foundations of his driveway.

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Then came a knock on his door. John Price demanded another ?8,000. In

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fact, he told David that without the extra money to rebuild the

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foundations, National Landscapes wouldn't finish the job. I was

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marooned. I was just flabbergasted. This was not on the plan at all. We

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had to have access to the house. If I tell him to go, I would have to

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get someone very quickly in to do something for me. Between stone and

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hard place. With a huge hole in his driveway and no way of fixing it

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himself, David had to hand over the extra money. It all came to ?15,000.

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After we featured his case, we knew we had to alert Trading Standards to

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David's story. It wasn't just poor business practice, it wasn't just a

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little bit misleading but not really intended to deceive, there was

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clearly fraud here. There was dishonest representations to take

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his money off him and take as much money as they could off him. David

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and his wife weren't alone. 20 miles away in Price and Lavercombe's home

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town of Bridgend, Mike Davies was watching X-Ray whilst National

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Landscapes worked on his driveway. I thought, "Oh, God, I've been caught

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here". I mentioned to them that they had been on X-Ray and they said it's

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just one of those things - people are always complaining. You always

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get complainers. So I assumed by his attitude if he's not worried why

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should I be worried, but obviously I should have been. But, sadly, Mike's

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story was almost identical to David's. Price had initially quoted

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him ?5,800 to lay a new driveway and build a wall. But just days into the

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job, yet again, the price shot up. This time by ?3,000. I always said,

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"Oh, that'll never happen to me. But it does, it's quite easy. They have

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got you over a barrel and you're obliged to say yes because it's got

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to be done. Together, the evidence was overwhelming. Price and

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Lavercombe were summoned to court. I think in this case there was no

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question in our minds that there had been serious fraud offences

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committed at the outset. In the distribution of the leaflets, in the

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quote and then the increased price. Just how bad were these guys in

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relation to other cases? They were extremely serious, extremely

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difficult people to deal with. Not only did they show no remorse, but

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they would respond or reply to any questions that we put to them. I

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don't think they had any respect for anyone that they dealt with and that

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came out in court. After a five-day trial, the jury took less than an

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hour to find John Price guilty on nine charges of fraud. Steven

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Lavercombe had previously pleaded guilty to five of the charges. And

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justice prevailed. Price was sentenced to five years in prison

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and banned from cold calling or pricing driveway work for eight

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years afterwards. And Lavercombe got just over two years in jail. The

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company was set up to commit criminal offences and the punishment

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fitted the crime in my opinion. Just deserts in the end. Obviously, I

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still lost the money, but at least no-one else will. I have now got a

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few more shots in the armoury and will hopefully not get caught out by

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the likes of Mr John Price again in the future.

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Great to end the year with such good news. Well, that's it from us until

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February. While we're off air, we'll be keeping busy fighting for your

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consumer rights. If you have a problem you'd like our help with,

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get in touch.

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