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Have you been ripped off? Conned? Or just short changed? We're here to

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fight for your rights. Spotting the latest scams - and

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making sure you make the most of your money. I am chasing them, they

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promised to come back, no one comes back to me. Very frustrating.

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Exposing the rogues, confronting the conmen - we're here to help you

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fight back. Tonight: After the havoc of the

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storms, the rogue traders who prey on desperate householders, conning

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them into parting with their cash. I feel absolutely terrible about it.

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My dad has lost hard earned savings. They made a fool of us.

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Hanging on for a telephone. Even in an emergency the phone companies can

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take months to connect you. We've told them countless of times that

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there is a severely disabled person here that needs to have a landline -

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needs to have a panic alarm. And the new shopping craze sweeping

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in from America which could save you a fortune. What are your standout

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bargains? Well, all of these were free, the potatoes, the porridge,

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the baby food, they were all free. Completely free? Completely free.

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But first, we have been through some terrible weather. It's been a

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struggle for many people - but it seems cowboy builders have been

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going out of their way to make things worse. Rachel's been meeting

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their victims. It's been a winter unlike any other

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in recent memory. Wales has been battered by storms

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and torrential rain. Across the country, communities have

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been ravaged, with toppled trees, flattened fences and roofs ripped

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apart, but the chaos is a money making opportunity for one group of

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people. Doorstep conmen. They're preying on

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elderly and vulnerable people, offering to carry out repairs - even

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if they aren't actually needed. That's what happened to one family

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in Cardiff. Kevin Ash and his parents Audrey and Laurance, who are

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in their 80s, got an unexpected knock at the door - from a man who

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appeared to be a builder. He said I'm a roofing contractor and as I

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have been walking past I see your chimney pot is swaying, and it's

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just about ready to fall and he said that could easily go through your

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roof, or your neighbour's roof or hit somebody walking past and it

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would kill them. He said we'll stabilise it for you and it'll cost

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you ?420. It was the first the family knew about a problem with the

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chimney - but the price seemed reasonable. I was in the process of

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getting over from a seizure and I wasn't firing on all cylinders, my

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mother and father were ill and I was worried about the damage that that

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could do to people walking past. Minutes later, Kevin was shocked to

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see workmen had already put up ladders. One of them was up on the

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roof. What exactly were they doing up there? There was a guy up there,

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by the chimney pot, he was resting on the actual chimney stack, and

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this other guy with the clipboard said, "We'll show you what the

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problem is," and he picked up the second pot chimney pot from the

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left; picked it up, and then put it back down again. So literally picked

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it up? Picked it up, yeah, I don't know whether they'd loosened it or

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whatever happened beforehand. How did he propose to fix it? What did

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he say he would do? First of all he said was going to concrete it to

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make sure it was stable. Then he came in and said we need to

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get rods down them, he said we got two but we got to get two others we

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haven't got in stock. He said if we buy them you're looking at about a

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grand a piece. ?1,000 apiece? ?1,000 apiece, yeah. Within just a few

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minutes the roofer had put the price up from ?420 to a massive two

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thousand pounds. -- ?2000. But he was more than happy to take

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Laurance's birthday, Christmas and pension money as a down payment. We

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had the money, the 420-odd pound, and my dad got the extra ?400 to

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make it up to the ?850 and he snatched it off him. He said that'll

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do for now, have you got any more money in the house? The men had

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already cleaned them out - but they weren't satisfied. The man told

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Kevin and Audrey to go by taxi to the bank to get more. But the bank

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was shut - and the family returned to a nasty surprise. We had to come

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back empty-handed so I said he'll have to wait until tomorrow, and

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when Kevin and I got back he wasn't there at all. The roofer was gone -

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and so was their ?850. In hindsight I know it was stupid and I feel

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absolutely terrible about it that my dad has lost hard-earned savings and

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they made a fool of us. I mean, they probably looked at us and said

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there's 800 pounds waiting for me to take, and I just hope he doesn't do

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it to somebody else. How can he do it to someone, because we we're

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pensioners? Even Kevin is on a pension because he can't work, and I

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mean money is tight anyway you know, but I thought well he must be out

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having a nice time on our money tonight. That's really is a shocking

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story. One that is only all too familiar in the aftermath of storms

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across Wales. Sarah Smith is from Cardiff trading standards. Sarah,

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what can you tell us about these people? Well, they turned up in the

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Grangetown area of the city. Do we have a description of these men? The

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police are looking for a white male, late 30s, early 40s. Medium build,

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with an Irish or possibly West Country accent. If people have any

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affirmation, what should they do? We should urge people to contact the

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police and put that information forward. Lots of people across Wales

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have suffered storm damage. What can we do to avoid falling into this

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trap? There are a number of things people can do, the number one point

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we would say is politely say no and close the door to any unexpected

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callers that may be offering goods are carrying out services for them.

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Also, never pay in full until the work is complete and you are fully

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satisfied with the work that has been carried out. The other thing to

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remember is to beware of anyone who was asking for a large upfront cash

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payments, and under no circumstances go with someone to the bank to have

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money withdrawn. Thanks Sarah, great advice. And if you think you might

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be able to help with that case you can find all the details on our

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website - along with that advice. Still to come: Find out how clipping

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coupons could save you a fortune. Companies are giving you this free

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money, take it. If someone is giving you a fiver for no reason at all,

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you take it. Now, EE claim to be the country's

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fastest mobile phone company. But when one man found himself the

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victim of a scam, they weren't exactly quick out of the blocks.

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Rhodri's been to Merthyr to find out more.

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Thank you very much. It's great to get a surprise parcel, but what if

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it's not for you? That's what happened to Terry

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Collins from Merthyr. He received a state-of-the-art mobile phone which

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he knew nothing about. It had to be a mistake. I was surprised when I

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opened it up to see a mobile phone which I hadn't ordered. I do possess

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a mobile phone, but mine's a cheap pay as you go not a contract phone.

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The phone was from EE, short for Everything Everywhere. It's one of

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our biggest mobile phone companies. Hey, it's me, here to talk about

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no-brainers. They run sophisticated ad campaigns fronted by Hollywood

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A-lister Kevin Bacon. The ads try to persuade us that their deals are so

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good - it's obvious you'd want one. No-brainer. Terry knew the flashy

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smartphone wasn't for him. So it was no surprise when, a few minutes

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later, he got a call saying there had been a mistake and a courier

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would call for it shortly. When Parcelforce turned-up, Terry signed

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to show he'd returned the phone. He kept a copy of the receipt and

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didn't think any more about it. But it's a scam. Thieves used Terry's

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address to order the phone; they were the ones who called him and

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they organised the courier so they could get their hands on their ill

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gotten gains! The crooks now had the expensive high tech phone - which

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they could sell on. They had used Terry's Identity to pull off the

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scam. By giving his details when they took out the contract, the

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scammers knew they would fly through the company's credit checks. They'd

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chosen well. Terry is a retired probation officer with an impeccable

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financial history. But the scam was about to cause Terry a major

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headache. Within days he got a bill from EE for the mystery mobile.

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So what d'you do when you get a bill that isn't yours, for a phone you

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haven't got? Well, in the words of EE's front man Mr Bacon. It's a "no

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brainer." Terry went straight down to EE's shop to sort it out! They

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said they'd look into it then and not to worry about it. I came home

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then and I felt a little bit easier, but then the concern was then a

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fortnight after that then I received a further bill then. Terry had shown

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EE proof that he'd didn't have the phone. So what did the mobile giant

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do next? EE decided to send Terry another bill. Each time the bills

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got larger and the letters became more threatening. Things were going

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from bad to worse. Communication was all one way. I'm chasing them,

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they're promising to come back, no-one comes back to me. I couldn't

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speak to anyone. Very, very frustrating as well as worrying

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time. Terry kept on telling EE about the fraud, he rang customer

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services, even wrote to head office. So what did EE do next? In the words

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of our hero, it's a no-brainer. No brainer! They called in a debt

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collection agency. It was all too much for Terry. We were very, very

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concerned and worried to have all these threatening letters about

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something we hadn't ordered and didn't possess. After three visits

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to the EE shop, a letter to head office, emails to customer services,

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phone calls to the debt collectors, what did EE do next? They sent Terry

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a bill, of course. And this time it was huge. The last straw was then

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two weeks before Christmas I had another bill then for ?945. I mean,

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that's not a very nice Christmas present to have. So what did Terry

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do next? Well, that really is a no brainer. He called X-Ray, of course,

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and four months after all of this started EE have finally stopped

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sending those bills. Not bad for Britain's fastest network!

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It did take EE is shockingly long time to get the message, but as soon

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as we got in touch, they sorted it out straightaway. They have now run

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Terry to apologise. And they say they have put a check on the post to

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compensate him. Great result there. If you have got a problem we can

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help with, give us a cold. 03703 334 334. If you want to write us a good

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old fashioned letter, they've got the address! And you can get us on

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the email - [email protected]. Remember to include a phone number. And we're

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on Twitter @bbcxray. Later we'll be asking why Talk Talk and BT

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Openreach failed to provide the landline desperately needed by the

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Hart family. We told them countless of times there was a severely

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disabled person living here. You can find them everywhere - newspapers,

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magazines, the internet. I'm talking about coupons like these. Money off

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this, money off that. But do you use them?

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Hello. Hello. Hello. Quick question, do you both use coupons like these

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when you go shopping? Quite often, yes. Where do you get them from?

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Magazines. Do you save a lot? With you get them from? Newspapers,

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magazines, online? Do you use coupons? No. Why not? I can't be

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bothered. I use them when I remember them. I cut them out of magazines

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and stuff. If I remember they're lying around somewhere, I try to

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think about it. Food vouchers are one thing we do use. Does it save

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you a lot of money? Loads, definitely. Do you use coupons? No,

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not very often. I can't be bothered. Now, if you're one of those people

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who never clip a coupon, you might want to have a look at this!

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My feet are hurting so bad. Your coupons weigh one pound,two ounces.

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That's the value of gold right there, right there, that's my gold.

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This is the latest shopping craze storming the American TV networks.

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13 cents for your total. These guys get their groceries for almost

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nothing. Welcome to the latest craze in extreme sports... It is, Extreme

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Couponing. Meet Zoe Phillips. A 25-year-old mum from Blaen Rhondda

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who's into extreme couponing in a big way. Bills are going to go up,

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money is going down. Companies are giving you this free money, take it.

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If someone offered you a fiver for no reason at all you would take it.

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It's the same with the coupons. Zoe started couponing after seeing the

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American TV show. Her first attempt was a massive success. It was nerve

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wracking, going through the till thinking right are they going to

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take these, and I came out with three John Freida conditioning

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bottles, a DVD, a mug and there were a few other things and it only came

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to four pence, so that was quite kinda like, yeah, nice. Zoe hunts

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everywhere for coupons. There have always been loads in magazines and

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newspapers but now there are many more online. Zoe uses Facebook and

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product websites, even mobile phone apps, to track them down. Sometimes

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it's incredibly straightforward. Like I've got free pizza coupons

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coming because I have just liked their page on Facebook, you know

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it's a two second job, it doesn't take long it's easy. By combining

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these coupons with special offers you can get massive savings. Time to

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Put Zoe's couponing skills to the test. She's off to the shops. Now

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would you believe it, none of the supermarkets would let us in to film

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Zoe on her Extreme Couponing Challenge. Not worried this new

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craze could cost them too much money are they? So that leaves me with an

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hour to fill. I think I'll just settle myself down here and see if I

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can find some coupons in the paper. Hello, how did it go? I think it

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went really well, actually, I think I got some great bargains. Well,

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you've got loads of stuff, let's go home and count all this up and see

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how much you've saved. Not bad going. Well, Zoe, this looks like a

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big shop, so what are your stand-out bargains? Well, all of these were

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free, the potatoes, the porridge, the baby food, they were all free.

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Completely free? Completely free. And where did you get those coupons?

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Facebook or manufacturers pages. That's amazing, anything else that

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was a really really good deal? These were reduced to ?1.24 on special

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offer so I paid 24 pence with a coupon That's a huge bargain, isn't

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it, 24 pence for a box of Shreddies. And these are all branded products

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as well, aren't they? Yes, every branded product. OK, anything else?

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This was reduced to ?1.34 and I ended up paying 59 pence. So, with a

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coupon down to 59 pence, I mean, brilliant savings. So how much

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should this entire shop have cost? ?52. And how much did you pay? ?22.

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?22, so that's less than half price. Zoe used loads of tricks to get that

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massive discount and used dozens of coupons. She saved ?30 on a ?52

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shop. So, if you want to get started on extreme couponing, how do you go

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about it? I'm meeting a couponing expert who says you can take it to

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different levels. Level one is using a coupon, cutting it out of a

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newspaper and using it for example, level two is using a coupon when

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there's also a discount say money off 241, 342, but when you get to

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the really extreme level, level three, it's people using coupon on

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top of coupon it's people stacking up on non-perishables that never go

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off so you really maximise the savings. What did you make of Zoe's

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shop? ?52 worth of products for ?22. I mean, that's a phenomenal saving,

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that's virtually half price, isn't it, off a big shop? She wasn't just

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using coupons she was using them on items that were already discounted.

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Anyone who can save that amount on a supermarket shop is doing very well.

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So, give us your top tips. First thing is do not be shy. Coupons have

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lost their stigma, go for it. Secondly, let the coupon lead what

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you buy if you're not loyal to a particular brand buy the one that's

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on offer as long as you buy it anyway there's no point spending

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money if you don't need it. Thirdly, go extreme, use multiple coupons,

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stack up on items, buy them ten times so you make multiple savings.

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And what about the small print? Ultimately it's up to the shop staff

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so if you try and they say no, well, hey, that's the worst thing that can

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happen. It is worth reading in mind that you may not be able to use two

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coupons together or use multiple items. If you want to buy ten

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deodorants for example by them in different transactions or get

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members of your family to buy them for you, can beat the system. Back

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in the Rhondda, Zoe's continuing to hone her couponing skills, and her

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family are seeing the benefits of all her work. It's lovely to know

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that I can give them the best of what they want and save for them at

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the same time. Now we all rely on our phones. But for one family,

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their landline really is a lifeline. Unfortunately they just couldn't get

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their phone company to understand the urgency. Rachel's been to meet

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them. The Hart family from Caldicot were like any other close knit

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family. Life was like normal, had my wedding, took me down the aisle,

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both my parents would go out, have holidays, quite family orientated.

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But On Boxing Day 2012, tragedy struck. Dad, Colin, was rushed to

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hospital with a ruptured gall bladder and the next year of the

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family's life was turned upside down. He was two months in a coma,

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he had several heart attacks, had multiple organ failure and what was

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that like for all of you? Soul destroying, just not being able to

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speak to him...sorry. I remember one time where they said that he

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wouldn't last the day and we had to have the Chaplain cold round and had

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to read him his last rights. Even the doctors said it's a miracle he's

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still alive from the full body septicaemia he had. It's a miracle.

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But family life would never be the same again. Colin now needs help

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with basic everyday tasks and has been left in a wheelchair. We had to

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sell the family home and we had to search for a house where there was a

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bedroom downstairs and a lot of room for his electric wheelchair. We had

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to sacrifice our family home to get him a place where he can actually

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come to and live. The family needed to make sure that help was available

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24-hours a day should Colin need it. Central to the plan was a panic

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button that he could wear around his neck and of course, they'd always be

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on the end of a telephone line. The emergency panic button which would

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allow Colin to summon help will ONLY work from a land line, so getting it

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connected was vital. We just rang Talk Talk and asked whether it was

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able to transfer the contract we had at our Mum's from our family home to

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the new property and they said it would be no problem at all, so we

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thought that's it then, all done and dusted. That was in September and

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the engineer was due a month later. On that occasion, the builders

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didn't have the house ready enough because we were having extensions

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put on for my dad, so that was fair enough, so they moved it. So an

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engineer was scheduled for the sixth November. Then just two days before

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they were due to come, Talk Talk changed the date to the 19th

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December. This six-week delay was critical to the family. They'd

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wanted the panic button insatlled before Colin returned from hospital.

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Now, this wouldn't happen. It was the day after my Dad was coming

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home, which did concern my mum and me. If we had to leave my dad for

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any these and there would not be a landline connected. The date came

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and went but still no phone line. The family had no emergency phone

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line. We told them countless times that the dizzy severely disabled

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person living here that needs to have a landline, needs to have a

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panic alarm, cannot be left on his own without one and they obviously

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don't seem to listen. An engineer did eventually turn up on January 13

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to install this phone socket inside the house but he cannot actually

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connect this socket to the exchange. So, still no phone line for these

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people. These cables aren't Talk Talk cables, they belong to BT

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Openreach who run the phone network. Their delays in providing

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services are well known to X-Ray viewers. Last October we highlighted

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problems in the village of Tregarth near Bangor, who waited for WEEKS

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for BT Openreach to connect them. The Harts arent alone. Back in

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Caldicot, it seemed BT Openreach were at least aware of the problem.

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The Hart family's builder told them he'd seen an Openreach engineer HERE

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at the local exchange box back in December. The engineer told him the

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box was full and there was no extra capacity to fit the Harts phone and

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broadband. Unfortunately nobody hought to tell the Harts that. This

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could easily be solved with a line and it would be finished, done,

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everybody could go about their lives in confidence, myself included. Well

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we've been in touch with Talk Talk and BT Openreach and both have

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apologised for the delays in getting them connected. Talk Talk tell us

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they made a mistake and initially sent an engineer to the wrong

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address, but they're committed to learning from cases like this. And

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BT Openreach said new underground cabling was needed to provide extra

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capacity in the network. But they admit that what they call "internal

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processing errors" delayed this work. But there is some good news.

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After we got involved, the Harts have finally managed to get the the

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landline they so desperately needed. That's all we've got time for

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tonight. : When this couple won a competition they were thrilled and

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even spent hundreds of pounds on flights to their destination. It was

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the holiday of a lifetime to the 5-star Spanish fitness camp, so what

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went wrong? I do not think it is feared really. We were on cloud line

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and then so low you cannot imagine. -- cloud nine. If you have a

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consumer problem new needing help with you can give us a call or drop

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us a e-mail. It is important to leave us at daytime phone number.

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The next week. Goodbye. Hello, I'm Ellie Crisell with your

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