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Have you been ripped off? Conned? Or just short changed? We're here to

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fight for your rights. At the end of their tether. Spotting the latest

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scams - and making sure you make the most of your money. And at my age

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I'm effectively having to sell the house and the equity will pay off

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the majority of my debt and I start from nothing. Exposing the rogues,

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confronting the conmen - we're here to help you fight back.

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Tonight - we confront the Swansea call centre boss whose company took

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thousands of pounds from customers. You people have signed terms and

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conditions, I believe. They have been misled by your salespeople.

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The e-cigarettes which give you more of a kick than you'd expect. About

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ten, maybe 15 minutes later, there was a massive bang, like a firework

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going off. And Rhodri turns detective. This is

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the mysterious case of the missing birthday present. We did it go and

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whodunnit? Tonight we're in Ebbw Vale - where

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we're going to be hearing about a few ways to save money on your

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holidays. But first - companies which are leaving customers

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thousands of pounds out of pocket and making promises they can't

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possibly keep. Rachel has been investigating this latest cold

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calling menace. Roll up, roll up, roll up. This is

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the Too Good To Be True Claims company. We will save you money.

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Have a look at that - 10% of your mortgage back and your credit card

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debts written off. How does that sound? Good. I'd be very suspicious.

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It is too good to be true. Too Good To Be True. It certainly sounds it.

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But there's a real call centre in Swansea operated by companies making

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exactly these claims - and charging customers thousands in upfront fees.

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Nearly a year and a half ago a company operating as CCS Advice was

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based there - and it was targeting people in debt - like David Parry

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from Pontypridd. I was in a vulnerable spot without a doubt, you

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know, my debt was gradually increasing. Probably across my

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credit cards at the time about ?20,000-?25,000. So when CCS Advice

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rang out of the blue David was desperate to hear anything which

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could help ease his financial plight. I resisted the urge to put

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the phone down, as I normally would and tolerated it for a few moments

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and the longer the conversation went on, the more plausible it sounded.

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They had a number of customers who had had their debt written off due

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to breaches in the Consumer Credit Act. And they were getting a high

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success rate of getting credit cards and loans written off. For David it

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sounded like a lifeline. But it wasn't going to be cheap. The

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company wanted a ?3,800 upfront fee, with the promise that he'd have his

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money back within a few months. It scared the heck out of me to be

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honest, but II can get one of my credit cards written off, just one,

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which was easily attainable from what they were saying, then I'd be

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in a much better position. I would have had a bit of disposable income

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to have a bit of a better life for me and my children. But the quick

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pay out never materialised - and David is now in worse financial

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trouble than ever. I was just about treading water, and reducing the

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balance. I'm now, as I say, worse off. I'm actually in a position now

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where I'm having to sell my house. I was going to rent my house. And at

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my age I'm effectively having to sell the house and the equity will

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pay off the majority of my debt and I start from nothing. Can I speak to

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the householder please? The company David was dealing with was called

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Claim Credit Services Ltd - run from the basement of this building in

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Swansea. It's had various trading names - but the tactics stayed much

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the same. When they rang Melanie Forrer offering a refund on her

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mortgage they were trading as CCS Review. They told me that I would be

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entitled to compensation of I think it was about ?14,000 and after their

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fees I'd receive about ?10,000. She paid them ?2,400 - but when she

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asked for her money back - she discovered another company had taken

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over. They checked the files and they said we had no record of you. I

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said you must have a record of me, you are CCS Review. At that point,

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they said no, we're CCS-hyphen-Review. We're a different

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company, we're nothing to do with the other company, we're based in

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Poole in Dorset and the other company are in Swansea. So I said

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well you all seem to have Welsh accents. That's because the calls

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were still coming from that basement in Swansea - although it was now run

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by a different company with headquarters in England. Melanie did

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manage to get her money back through them. I want to find out if the

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claims being made by this new company any more realistic. Going

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off the minimal claim value there you are looking at getting

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compensation back of just over ?25,000. It's 25,252. And I've got a

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few questions for the man behind the company which took David's money.

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Nicholas Harle? We're from X-Ray. Why have you been misleading your

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customers? You've got the wrong person, sorry. We haven't got the

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wrong person. It's Nicholas Harle, isn't it? Sorry, no.

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And you can see the shocking claims which that call centre made to

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Rachel later in the programme. Now, if you're booking your summer

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holiday you may be booking a hire car to get around when you're there.

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It's not something many of us do very often. So guess what? The car

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hire companies have plenty of tricks up their sleeve to bump up the

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price. Well, travel writer Tom answer is with me now. Let's talk

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first of all about the fuel tank because this is one area where we

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can be caught out, isn't it? Well, something to watch out for with car

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hire companies now days especially budget companies is when they try to

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loan you the car with a full tank of fuel that you can then return to

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them empty. Now that fuel is going to cost more than you are able to

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buy for elsewhere in the country that you're renting the car in and

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you're never going to use it all up, so you're going to end up returning

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the car back to them with some fuel left in there which they will gladly

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sell on to somebody else for the same price again. Yeah, you don't

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want to do that. OK, let's take a look in the back of the car. The

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child's car seat, an essential piece of kit isn't it if you've got kids.

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Any advice on keeping the costs down? It's another one of those

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little extras, It'll be about ten or 11 quid a day, can be even more and

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do you know what you can take one of these on the plane for a tenner and

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it's going to be your own one and you know exactly how to fit it into

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that car. Now, in the front, we've got a sat nav. You may well need one

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of those if you're exploring a foreign country. Any advice on that?

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Well, these are again another little add on but it is far cheaper and

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more economical to try and take care of yourself. Tenner a day but for 25

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quid you can rent one privately for two weeks. You can also quite easily

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re-condition your own to work in European countries. But you know

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what? You're on holiday, why not go with the traditional method of a

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paper map and just get lost in a beautiful country you travel to! The

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excess waiver. Do you really need one of those? Most car hire

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companies are going to include a collision damage waiver but this

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means there will still be an excess. A big excess of an average of about

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700 quid. You can pay for the excess to be waivered completely but this

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is going to cost you again at least a tenner a day with most companies.

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You can get private damage excess waivers from other companies online

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from as little as 25 quid per week, maybe even less. That's really great

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advice, Tom, thank you. Now, when things get lost in the

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post, it can be really frustrating. But for one family, it became a bit

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of a detective story - as Rhodri's been finding out.

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This is the case of the missing birthday present. It's a tale of

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mystery and intrigue-where did it go and who done it. The victim in this

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mystery - Lucy Myers Sleight, a business development manager from

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Quakers Yard near Treharris. Last October she and husband Keith

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treated themselves to a little getaway. It was Lucy's Birthday so

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on their return they thought they'd come home to a few nice surprises.

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When we got back we actually only found one or two cards and there

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was, you know the one we expected to see from my mum nothing was there at

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all. Keith's mum Barbara lives near Leeds. She'd been to the local post

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office, popped ?50 cash in a card and paid ?4.10 to send it via the

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First Class Signed For service. Yes, I could've put it through the bank

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but I like, it's not the same really is for a Birthday present. I like

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the excitement of them opening something and seeing what's inside

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and what have you. Barbara told them she's sent something - so they were

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looking out of it. -- looking out for it. She's very good to be

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honest, you know she'd sent it in advance so that it would be there in

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time. So when we got back from our weekend away and we looked through

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the cards and we could see that her's wasn't there it was a little

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bit confusing as to what had happened. So Keith went online to

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track the present. The website revealed that the card had been

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delivered to the right address and signed for in the name of Myers

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Sleight. But the signature was like nothing they'd ever seen before-so

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who had signed for it? Well, when I saw the signature it was

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unrecognisable really, it didn't look like a signature, it just

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looked like a couple of letters. Obviously it didn't resemble our

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signature at all-we weren't here. I was really perplexed at that point

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as to where the card had actually gone. I thought, oh, has somebody

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been stood on our doorstep waiting for the postman and stolen it or

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something like that? So the couple decided to do some detective work.

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Keith went off to investigate at the local delivery office in Pontypridd.

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And Lucy asked the neighbours if they knew anything about it. But

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both trails went cold. With still no trace of the card they filled in an

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official Royal Mail compensation form to try and claim back the money

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they had lost. And that's how the mystery was solved. The Royal Mail

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wrote to Barbara and the identity of the letter signer was revealed. It

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was a postman. He'd signed for it himself and he said posted it

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through their door. Unbelievable. But Royal Mail wouldn't give the

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family their money back. Every letter we've received has been, you

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know, blah blah blah we've looked into it, end of story, we can't do

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anymore. Well, Royal Mail says it has

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disciplined the postie concerned but they've not been sacked. They say

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that Lucy's mum used the wrong service to send cash - it went first

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class signed for - when it should have gone Special Delivery

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Guaranteed. If it had it would have been covered for the loss. But the

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Royal Mail have now agreed to refund the ?50, so Lucy can have that

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special treat after all. Now, you might have seen people

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smoking things like these - e cigarettes. There's been lots of

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debate over there health benefits - but not so much has been said about

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the risk of them exploding. Lucy's been finding out more.

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Electronic cigarettes. More than a million people are using them and

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the market is booming. But they're controversial, and some pubs and

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restaurants have banned them. As for the long-term impact on health,

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well, the jury's still out. That's not what's troubling Keirran

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Francis and his family in Neath. A month ago a friend came round and

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asked to charge her e-cigarette in his kitchen. About 15 minutes later,

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there was a massive bang, like a firework going off. First thing, we

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turned the electric off by the mains to obviously, just in case it was an

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electrical fault, and then scarpered into the kitchen and realised then

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that it was the e-cigarette that did actually blow up. Basically, it's

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shot across the room, caused a little of damage to the window sill,

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it's melted parts of the floor. Have you thought about what could have

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happened if you weren't here? If we were out, obviously, the house would

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have gone up in flames, but more importantly if we were here all in

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bed then obviously it could have cost, cost our lives. A Florida man

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is recovering from severe injuries to his mouth and face after an

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electronic cigarette exploded in his mouth. Cases of exploding cigarettes

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have been reported around the world. I was charging one of my electronic

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cigarette batteries via the USB cable and check out what happened.

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Look, the damn thing exploded! They're a problem across Britain too

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- and they caused a blaze at this Derbyshire nursing home which left

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one woman dead. And X-Ray has learned of at least six other cases

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dealt with by fire-fighters in Wales in the past two years, and that

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could just be the tip of the iceberg if more people aren't reporting

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incidents. In my left hand we have got the remains of the rechargeable

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battery. Then we have got the actual cigarette. So how are these fires

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starting then? The users charge their e-cigarettes too long. Unlike

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other rechargeable batteries like in mobile phones for example they

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aren't fitted with a default setting which switches off the charger to

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prevent the battery from overcharging. There's also people

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using different components to charge different e-cigarettes so that's a

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cause in itself because they're set at different ratings. What do you

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think needs to be done to find out more about what's causing this? It's

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obvious that more testing needs to be carried out and maybe more

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regulation needs to brought in. Trading Standards are investigating

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the problem - and this lab in Blackwood is among the first to

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conduct tests. Overseeing this test is senior safety engineer Leigh

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Picton. Hi, Leigh. Hi. So, what's going on here? Um, basically, we are

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measuring the surface temperatures of these e-cigarettes using these

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temperature sensors, and we'll be monitoring the temperatures using

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this graph and what we'll be looking for is any sharp rises in

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temperature, and that could indicate that something is going wrong with

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the batteries. As the test progresses, one of the e-cigarette

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chargers appears to be heating up more than the others. What does it

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show you? Straightaway, looking at that graph, I can see a spike there.

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This spike here, this was basically the temperature of this particular

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charger. The battery was initially empty so it was an initial surge of

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power. But the fact that it eased off, you're satisfied that these

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devices are safe? Yeah. In this instance, because the temperature

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just started to decrease, it's considered safe. If the voltage did

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not drop off as you can see here, then what can happen is temperatures

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increase, increase and increase until the battery potentially could

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rupture. With more testing, it's hoped that e-cigarettes can be made

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safer but until then, users need to take care. It's important we get the

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message out and say, buy them from reputable sources, make sure you

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don't mix and match, and don't overcharge them, don't leave them

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unattended when you're charging them.

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If you do anything on the internet, you will have ticked those endless

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boxes which say, I agree to the terms and conditions. Pages and

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pages of waffle usually and most of the time we just tick. But ignoring

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the boring bits of a web page can be expensive as Lucy's been finding

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out. We all know the dangers of e-mail

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scams, fake websites and virus threats. But when we're using the

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websites of well-known companies, we can let our guard down. That can be

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expensive. Back in September, paramedic Malcolm Morrison used the

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Trainline.com to buy tickets for a trip to London for him and his wife

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Sue. A few days later the website sent us another e-mail asking if we

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wanted to buy some West End show tickets and we thought that was a

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good idea, so we did. Malcolm entered his credit card details and

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that's when another window popped up with some great news - he was

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entitled to a free gift. One stuck out, Lift Serum Pro, which is

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supposed to be better than Botox and so I thought well, my wife might

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like it. Bet she was pleased about that! Malcolm pressed on and was

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asked to pay ?1.99 postage. I had my credit card in my hand so I paid the

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?1.99 postage and there was obviously this little box you had to

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tick to accept the terms and conditions of the offer which you

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always do on the internet, so I ticked that. So Malcolm and Sue went

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off to enjoy their weekend in London. When we come back, the

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package was there, inside was this Lift Serum Pro. I gave it to my wife

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and I thought that was the end of that. Malcolm had paid the?1.99

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postage for the sample, but when he checked his statement the next

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month, he had a nasty surprise. There was ?85.00 gone out to the

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same company and I thought, what an earth is this? I thought there's

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been a mistake, apparently that terms conditions box I'd ticked,

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I'd agreed for them, after 14 days, to take ?85.00 out to pay for that

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first supply, and worse than that, I was going to receive another supply

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every month until I asked them to stop. I was suckered into this one.

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So how did Malcolm fall for this? I'm asking consumer law expert Huw

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Evans to look at the website. You go onto the Lift Serum Pro website and

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at first glance you can see why he thought he was signing up for ?1.99.

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You've just got to read the first line of the small print, you

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wouldn't think you'd need to read any further, it says we will send

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you a 30 day supply of the product for just shipping and handling fee

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of ?1.99. Then you've got above, the prominence, get your risk free trial

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today. It's only when you read a lot further down in the small print at

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the bottom of this page that you see this sun of ?84.71. It's not

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prominent, you are directed towards ?1.99. The issue that you have to

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pay this extra amount on top of the ?1.99 is not mentioned in any

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prominent form whatsoever. I could be fooled by that. Is this illegal?

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On the face of it, I think we have misleading selling here, and that it

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should be stopped. We wrote to Lift Serum Pro's head office in Las Vegas

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but they've not responded to any of our letters or e-mails.

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Thetrainline.com which is the website that Malcom says he was

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using when he saw the Lift Serum Pro pop up, says it has nothing to do

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with that company and it doesn't allow any pop up adverts on its

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booking confirmation page. Earlier we met victims of a company

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which made big promises to cut customers debts, then failed to

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deliver. Time for Rachel to pose as a customer and hear the sales pitch

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for herself. David Parry is a victim of a Swansea

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company cold Claim Credit Services. He was deeply in debt when they

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cold, offering to wipe out his credit card balances. But they

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wanted a fee of nearly ?4,000. Now ease worse off than ever. I was just

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about treading water, and reducing the balance. I'm now, as I say,

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worse off. I was going to rent my house out. I'm a chilly in a

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position now where I'm having to sell my house. At my age, I'm

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effectively having to sell the house and the equity will pay off the

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majority of my debt and I start from nothing. The company that took

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David's money had this mild Nicholas Harle as its director. It was based

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in the basement of this listed building in Swansea. It has no

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connection with the other companies based there. This is a place with a

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bit of history as a call centre. It used to be home to one of misty

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Harle's businesses, Consortium Reclaim. They were on X-Ray a few

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years ago. Then came CCS Advice, CCS Review, and most recently

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CCS-Review. That last one is a chilly a different company and it's

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not run by Nicholas Harle but it works out of the same call centre

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and offers the same services. Are the claims made by this company any

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more realistic than the last? I ring them and tell them I'm up to my neck

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in debt, and desperate. We specialise in financial hardship and

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in regards to the misselling of mortgages as well. This is how we

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can get compensation for clouds like yourself. Fantastic! Compensation,

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just what I need when I'm in debt. They're going to make some big

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promises. First up, a massive reduction in my debts. Going off the

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minimal claim value there, you're looking at getting compensation

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back. If you want to write this down for me, it's just over ?25,000. It's

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?25,252. That's just on the mortgage. He then promises nearly

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?25,000 off my credit card debts. With the mortgage agreement, that is

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a lot of money back for you. Then obviously, with the debt getting

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eliminated, it is like a ?50,000 swing for you too, isn't it? Second,

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we have to pay a ?3,200 fee but they'll charge that to my credit

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cards and it'll be wiped out, too. The ?3214 is gone with the credit

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card debt you have. There's nothing left for you to pay on that. Next

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up, I'll have the money in just a few months. Right, well what's the

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month today? It's January today, call it say start of February.

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You're probably looking at April to get the money back. So are these

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claims realistic? I've come to ask an expert. Processing the claim

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forwards and obtaining compensation within 90 days then. Is that

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feasible? It's wholly unrealistic. A mortgage misselling claim could,

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certainly if it turned into litigation, go on for up to 18

:24:22.:24:25.

months. The notion that you could get compensation back in that sort

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of timescale is ridiculous. We have a 100% success rate. With the FSA

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assessment, we haven't had an unsuccessful outcome. He is giving

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the impression that they have done this for 28,500 people. They've

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never had an unsuccessful case. What do you make of that? On the face of

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it, it seems to be a completely wild and unrealistic claim. No lawyer is

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100% successful. It's just unrealistic. You have got a business

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which is claiming to be professional, which is behaving in a

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thoroughly unprofessional manner. Preying on vulnerable, financially

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distressed people, offering them a service which they must know they

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can't realistically deliver on, and in a timescale which is also wholly

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unrealistic. David Parry faces losing his house after falling for a

:25:16.:25:19.

similar sales pitch from the company which used to operate that call

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centre. He gave them nearly ?4,000 when he was deeply in debt. Now I

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want to find out what happened to his money. Time to pay a visit to

:25:29.:25:34.

director Nicholas Harle. Nicholas Harle - we're from X-Ray. Why have

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you been taking thousands of pounds for a service you can't deliver? I

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think you've got the wrong person. No I haven't, It's Nicholas Harle.

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Why have you been misleading your customers? You've got the wrong

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person, sorry. We haven't got the wrong person, it's Nicholas Harle

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isn't it? Sorry, no But he finally remembers who he is. You signed for

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a letter here in the name of Nicholas Harle. OK, yeah. But can he

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remember what happened to David's money? Your member of staff told him

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there was no wind, no fee. He hasn't won but ease paid the fee. Nearly

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?4,000. Ease never seen that money again. You'll have to speak to the

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legal representative. I don't want to speak to a legal representative,

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I want to speak to you. You're the director of the company. I'm unable

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to comment on it, sorry Tell me your staff haven't been misleading

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people. I'm unable to comment on it, sorry. Why are you unable to

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comment? If you're the mild whose name is registered to the company,

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why aren't you prepared to talk? You're prepared to ring people up in

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their homes and mislead them and get them to pay over thousands of pounds

:26:44.:26:47.

to your company, but you're not prepared to sit here and answer

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questions. Do you know what that makes you look like? Spineless! So

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you've got nothing to say to the people who are thousands of pounds

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in debt? No. Because of you and your company. These people have signed

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terms and conditions I believe. They were misled. They were misled by

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your sales people. I don't think that's the case. Obviously I

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apologise if somebody's lost money but I don't think that's the case.

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You apologise if people have lost money? Are you going to give them

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their money back? I don't have their money. So who's got the money,

:27:25.:27:28.

because somebody's got it? I don't know, sorry. So that's Nicholas

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Harle, a mild who's quite prepared to disturb you at home and ask you

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lots of personal questions, but he really doesn't like it when you try

:27:41.:27:47.

and do it to him. So that was the mild in charge of

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running the call centre when David lost his money. By the time Rachel

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rang, it was a different company and another mild in charge - Simon

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Helliwell from Dorset. He didn't respond to our letters. Since our

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investigation, his company has a new trading name - The Full Financial

:28:04.:28:09.

Review. Let us know if you get a call from them. We'll see if they've

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cleaned up their act. Next week, they promised her a

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lifetime guarantee after she spent thousands on laser eye surgery. Now

:28:19.:28:23.

they've changed their mind. It's the worst thing I ever did, Until then -

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