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Have you been ripped off? Conned? Or just short changed? We're here to | :00:00. | :00:13. | |
fight for your rights. At the end of their tether. Spotting the latest | :00:14. | :00:17. | |
scams - and making sure you make the most of your money. And at my age | :00:18. | :00:21. | |
I'm effectively having to sell the house and the equity will pay off | :00:22. | :00:25. | |
the majority of my debt and I start from nothing. Exposing the rogues, | :00:26. | :00:28. | |
confronting the conmen - we're here to help you fight back. | :00:29. | :00:41. | |
Tonight - we confront the Swansea call centre boss whose company took | :00:42. | :00:53. | |
thousands of pounds from customers. You people have signed terms and | :00:54. | :00:58. | |
conditions, I believe. They have been misled by your salespeople. | :00:59. | :01:01. | |
The e-cigarettes which give you more of a kick than you'd expect. About | :01:02. | :01:10. | |
ten, maybe 15 minutes later, there was a massive bang, like a firework | :01:11. | :01:19. | |
going off. And Rhodri turns detective. This is | :01:20. | :01:23. | |
the mysterious case of the missing birthday present. We did it go and | :01:24. | :01:27. | |
whodunnit? Tonight we're in Ebbw Vale - where | :01:28. | :01:31. | |
we're going to be hearing about a few ways to save money on your | :01:32. | :01:34. | |
holidays. But first - companies which are leaving customers | :01:35. | :01:37. | |
thousands of pounds out of pocket and making promises they can't | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
possibly keep. Rachel has been investigating this latest cold | :01:41. | :01:45. | |
calling menace. Roll up, roll up, roll up. This is | :01:46. | :01:51. | |
the Too Good To Be True Claims company. We will save you money. | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
Have a look at that - 10% of your mortgage back and your credit card | :01:56. | :01:59. | |
debts written off. How does that sound? Good. I'd be very suspicious. | :02:00. | :02:10. | |
It is too good to be true. Too Good To Be True. It certainly sounds it. | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
But there's a real call centre in Swansea operated by companies making | :02:14. | :02:16. | |
exactly these claims - and charging customers thousands in upfront fees. | :02:17. | :02:23. | |
Nearly a year and a half ago a company operating as CCS Advice was | :02:24. | :02:27. | |
based there - and it was targeting people in debt - like David Parry | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
from Pontypridd. I was in a vulnerable spot without a doubt, you | :02:33. | :02:35. | |
know, my debt was gradually increasing. Probably across my | :02:36. | :02:42. | |
credit cards at the time about ?20,000-?25,000. So when CCS Advice | :02:43. | :02:52. | |
rang out of the blue David was desperate to hear anything which | :02:53. | :02:55. | |
could help ease his financial plight. I resisted the urge to put | :02:56. | :03:02. | |
the phone down, as I normally would and tolerated it for a few moments | :03:03. | :03:05. | |
and the longer the conversation went on, the more plausible it sounded. | :03:06. | :03:09. | |
They had a number of customers who had had their debt written off due | :03:10. | :03:12. | |
to breaches in the Consumer Credit Act. And they were getting a high | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
success rate of getting credit cards and loans written off. For David it | :03:17. | :03:21. | |
sounded like a lifeline. But it wasn't going to be cheap. The | :03:22. | :03:25. | |
company wanted a ?3,800 upfront fee, with the promise that he'd have his | :03:26. | :03:33. | |
money back within a few months. It scared the heck out of me to be | :03:34. | :03:37. | |
honest, but II can get one of my credit cards written off, just one, | :03:38. | :03:40. | |
which was easily attainable from what they were saying, then I'd be | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
in a much better position. I would have had a bit of disposable income | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
to have a bit of a better life for me and my children. But the quick | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
pay out never materialised - and David is now in worse financial | :03:55. | :04:01. | |
trouble than ever. I was just about treading water, and reducing the | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
balance. I'm now, as I say, worse off. I'm actually in a position now | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
where I'm having to sell my house. I was going to rent my house. And at | :04:11. | :04:13. | |
my age I'm effectively having to sell the house and the equity will | :04:14. | :04:17. | |
pay off the majority of my debt and I start from nothing. Can I speak to | :04:18. | :04:25. | |
the householder please? The company David was dealing with was called | :04:26. | :04:28. | |
Claim Credit Services Ltd - run from the basement of this building in | :04:29. | :04:31. | |
Swansea. It's had various trading names - but the tactics stayed much | :04:32. | :04:37. | |
the same. When they rang Melanie Forrer offering a refund on her | :04:38. | :04:40. | |
mortgage they were trading as CCS Review. They told me that I would be | :04:41. | :04:46. | |
entitled to compensation of I think it was about ?14,000 and after their | :04:47. | :04:54. | |
fees I'd receive about ?10,000. She paid them ?2,400 - but when she | :04:55. | :04:58. | |
asked for her money back - she discovered another company had taken | :04:59. | :05:03. | |
over. They checked the files and they said we had no record of you. I | :05:04. | :05:08. | |
said you must have a record of me, you are CCS Review. At that point, | :05:09. | :05:11. | |
they said no, we're CCS-hyphen-Review. We're a different | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
company, we're nothing to do with the other company, we're based in | :05:16. | :05:18. | |
Poole in Dorset and the other company are in Swansea. So I said | :05:19. | :05:22. | |
well you all seem to have Welsh accents. That's because the calls | :05:23. | :05:27. | |
were still coming from that basement in Swansea - although it was now run | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
by a different company with headquarters in England. Melanie did | :05:32. | :05:36. | |
manage to get her money back through them. I want to find out if the | :05:37. | :05:43. | |
claims being made by this new company any more realistic. Going | :05:44. | :05:48. | |
off the minimal claim value there you are looking at getting | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
compensation back of just over ?25,000. It's 25,252. And I've got a | :05:52. | :06:00. | |
few questions for the man behind the company which took David's money. | :06:01. | :06:03. | |
Nicholas Harle? We're from X-Ray. Why have you been misleading your | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
customers? You've got the wrong person, sorry. We haven't got the | :06:07. | :06:09. | |
wrong person. It's Nicholas Harle, isn't it? Sorry, no. | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
And you can see the shocking claims which that call centre made to | :06:14. | :06:16. | |
Rachel later in the programme. Now, if you're booking your summer | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
holiday you may be booking a hire car to get around when you're there. | :06:21. | :06:24. | |
It's not something many of us do very often. So guess what? The car | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
hire companies have plenty of tricks up their sleeve to bump up the | :06:29. | :06:31. | |
price. Well, travel writer Tom answer is with me now. Let's talk | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
first of all about the fuel tank because this is one area where we | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
can be caught out, isn't it? Well, something to watch out for with car | :06:41. | :06:43. | |
hire companies now days especially budget companies is when they try to | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
loan you the car with a full tank of fuel that you can then return to | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
them empty. Now that fuel is going to cost more than you are able to | :06:52. | :06:55. | |
buy for elsewhere in the country that you're renting the car in and | :06:56. | :06:59. | |
you're never going to use it all up, so you're going to end up returning | :07:00. | :07:03. | |
the car back to them with some fuel left in there which they will gladly | :07:04. | :07:07. | |
sell on to somebody else for the same price again. Yeah, you don't | :07:08. | :07:11. | |
want to do that. OK, let's take a look in the back of the car. The | :07:12. | :07:14. | |
child's car seat, an essential piece of kit isn't it if you've got kids. | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
Any advice on keeping the costs down? It's another one of those | :07:19. | :07:22. | |
little extras, It'll be about ten or 11 quid a day, can be even more and | :07:23. | :07:27. | |
do you know what you can take one of these on the plane for a tenner and | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
it's going to be your own one and you know exactly how to fit it into | :07:32. | :07:35. | |
that car. Now, in the front, we've got a sat nav. You may well need one | :07:36. | :07:39. | |
of those if you're exploring a foreign country. Any advice on that? | :07:40. | :07:42. | |
Well, these are again another little add on but it is far cheaper and | :07:43. | :07:46. | |
more economical to try and take care of yourself. Tenner a day but for 25 | :07:47. | :07:51. | |
quid you can rent one privately for two weeks. You can also quite easily | :07:52. | :07:54. | |
re-condition your own to work in European countries. But you know | :07:55. | :07:57. | |
what? You're on holiday, why not go with the traditional method of a | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
paper map and just get lost in a beautiful country you travel to! The | :08:02. | :08:04. | |
excess waiver. Do you really need one of those? Most car hire | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
companies are going to include a collision damage waiver but this | :08:09. | :08:11. | |
means there will still be an excess. A big excess of an average of about | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
700 quid. You can pay for the excess to be waivered completely but this | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
is going to cost you again at least a tenner a day with most companies. | :08:20. | :08:23. | |
You can get private damage excess waivers from other companies online | :08:24. | :08:26. | |
from as little as 25 quid per week, maybe even less. That's really great | :08:27. | :08:29. | |
advice, Tom, thank you. Now, when things get lost in the | :08:30. | :08:32. | |
post, it can be really frustrating. But for one family, it became a bit | :08:33. | :08:37. | |
of a detective story - as Rhodri's been finding out. | :08:38. | :08:39. | |
This is the case of the missing birthday present. It's a tale of | :08:40. | :08:43. | |
mystery and intrigue-where did it go and who done it. The victim in this | :08:44. | :08:48. | |
mystery - Lucy Myers Sleight, a business development manager from | :08:49. | :08:54. | |
Quakers Yard near Treharris. Last October she and husband Keith | :08:55. | :08:56. | |
treated themselves to a little getaway. It was Lucy's Birthday so | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
on their return they thought they'd come home to a few nice surprises. | :09:02. | :09:08. | |
When we got back we actually only found one or two cards and there | :09:09. | :09:12. | |
was, you know the one we expected to see from my mum nothing was there at | :09:13. | :09:18. | |
all. Keith's mum Barbara lives near Leeds. She'd been to the local post | :09:19. | :09:22. | |
office, popped ?50 cash in a card and paid ?4.10 to send it via the | :09:23. | :09:34. | |
First Class Signed For service. Yes, I could've put it through the bank | :09:35. | :09:38. | |
but I like, it's not the same really is for a Birthday present. I like | :09:39. | :09:41. | |
the excitement of them opening something and seeing what's inside | :09:42. | :09:44. | |
and what have you. Barbara told them she's sent something - so they were | :09:45. | :09:49. | |
looking out of it. -- looking out for it. She's very good to be | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
honest, you know she'd sent it in advance so that it would be there in | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
time. So when we got back from our weekend away and we looked through | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
the cards and we could see that her's wasn't there it was a little | :10:03. | :10:05. | |
bit confusing as to what had happened. So Keith went online to | :10:06. | :10:08. | |
track the present. The website revealed that the card had been | :10:09. | :10:11. | |
delivered to the right address and signed for in the name of Myers | :10:12. | :10:15. | |
Sleight. But the signature was like nothing they'd ever seen before-so | :10:16. | :10:22. | |
who had signed for it? Well, when I saw the signature it was | :10:23. | :10:24. | |
unrecognisable really, it didn't look like a signature, it just | :10:25. | :10:27. | |
looked like a couple of letters. Obviously it didn't resemble our | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
signature at all-we weren't here. I was really perplexed at that point | :10:32. | :10:34. | |
as to where the card had actually gone. I thought, oh, has somebody | :10:35. | :10:38. | |
been stood on our doorstep waiting for the postman and stolen it or | :10:39. | :10:41. | |
something like that? So the couple decided to do some detective work. | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
Keith went off to investigate at the local delivery office in Pontypridd. | :10:46. | :10:52. | |
And Lucy asked the neighbours if they knew anything about it. But | :10:53. | :10:59. | |
both trails went cold. With still no trace of the card they filled in an | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
official Royal Mail compensation form to try and claim back the money | :11:04. | :11:08. | |
they had lost. And that's how the mystery was solved. The Royal Mail | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
wrote to Barbara and the identity of the letter signer was revealed. It | :11:13. | :11:18. | |
was a postman. He'd signed for it himself and he said posted it | :11:19. | :11:22. | |
through their door. Unbelievable. But Royal Mail wouldn't give the | :11:23. | :11:27. | |
family their money back. Every letter we've received has been, you | :11:28. | :11:31. | |
know, blah blah blah we've looked into it, end of story, we can't do | :11:32. | :11:37. | |
anymore. Well, Royal Mail says it has | :11:38. | :11:40. | |
disciplined the postie concerned but they've not been sacked. They say | :11:41. | :11:44. | |
that Lucy's mum used the wrong service to send cash - it went first | :11:45. | :11:48. | |
class signed for - when it should have gone Special Delivery | :11:49. | :11:52. | |
Guaranteed. If it had it would have been covered for the loss. But the | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
Royal Mail have now agreed to refund the ?50, so Lucy can have that | :11:57. | :12:02. | |
special treat after all. Now, you might have seen people | :12:03. | :12:06. | |
smoking things like these - e cigarettes. There's been lots of | :12:07. | :12:09. | |
debate over there health benefits - but not so much has been said about | :12:10. | :12:13. | |
the risk of them exploding. Lucy's been finding out more. | :12:14. | :12:20. | |
Electronic cigarettes. More than a million people are using them and | :12:21. | :12:25. | |
the market is booming. But they're controversial, and some pubs and | :12:26. | :12:30. | |
restaurants have banned them. As for the long-term impact on health, | :12:31. | :12:31. | |
well, the jury's still out. That's not what's troubling Keirran | :12:32. | :12:43. | |
Francis and his family in Neath. A month ago a friend came round and | :12:44. | :12:46. | |
asked to charge her e-cigarette in his kitchen. About 15 minutes later, | :12:47. | :12:53. | |
there was a massive bang, like a firework going off. First thing, we | :12:54. | :13:03. | |
turned the electric off by the mains to obviously, just in case it was an | :13:04. | :13:06. | |
electrical fault, and then scarpered into the kitchen and realised then | :13:07. | :13:10. | |
that it was the e-cigarette that did actually blow up. Basically, it's | :13:11. | :13:13. | |
shot across the room, caused a little of damage to the window sill, | :13:14. | :13:20. | |
it's melted parts of the floor. Have you thought about what could have | :13:21. | :13:30. | |
happened if you weren't here? If we were out, obviously, the house would | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
have gone up in flames, but more importantly if we were here all in | :13:35. | :13:37. | |
bed then obviously it could have cost, cost our lives. A Florida man | :13:38. | :13:40. | |
is recovering from severe injuries to his mouth and face after an | :13:41. | :13:44. | |
electronic cigarette exploded in his mouth. Cases of exploding cigarettes | :13:45. | :13:48. | |
have been reported around the world. I was charging one of my electronic | :13:49. | :13:52. | |
cigarette batteries via the USB cable and check out what happened. | :13:53. | :14:02. | |
Look, the damn thing exploded! They're a problem across Britain too | :14:03. | :14:06. | |
- and they caused a blaze at this Derbyshire nursing home which left | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
one woman dead. And X-Ray has learned of at least six other cases | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
dealt with by fire-fighters in Wales in the past two years, and that | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
could just be the tip of the iceberg if more people aren't reporting | :14:20. | :14:28. | |
incidents. In my left hand we have got the remains of the rechargeable | :14:29. | :14:33. | |
battery. Then we have got the actual cigarette. So how are these fires | :14:34. | :14:38. | |
starting then? The users charge their e-cigarettes too long. Unlike | :14:39. | :14:41. | |
other rechargeable batteries like in mobile phones for example they | :14:42. | :14:44. | |
aren't fitted with a default setting which switches off the charger to | :14:45. | :14:47. | |
prevent the battery from overcharging. There's also people | :14:48. | :14:49. | |
using different components to charge different e-cigarettes so that's a | :14:50. | :14:52. | |
cause in itself because they're set at different ratings. What do you | :14:53. | :15:00. | |
think needs to be done to find out more about what's causing this? It's | :15:01. | :15:03. | |
obvious that more testing needs to be carried out and maybe more | :15:04. | :15:07. | |
regulation needs to brought in. Trading Standards are investigating | :15:08. | :15:10. | |
the problem - and this lab in Blackwood is among the first to | :15:11. | :15:15. | |
conduct tests. Overseeing this test is senior safety engineer Leigh | :15:16. | :15:25. | |
Picton. Hi, Leigh. Hi. So, what's going on here? Um, basically, we are | :15:26. | :15:28. | |
measuring the surface temperatures of these e-cigarettes using these | :15:29. | :15:31. | |
temperature sensors, and we'll be monitoring the temperatures using | :15:32. | :15:34. | |
this graph and what we'll be looking for is any sharp rises in | :15:35. | :15:37. | |
temperature, and that could indicate that something is going wrong with | :15:38. | :15:44. | |
the batteries. As the test progresses, one of the e-cigarette | :15:45. | :15:47. | |
chargers appears to be heating up more than the others. What does it | :15:48. | :15:56. | |
show you? Straightaway, looking at that graph, I can see a spike there. | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
This spike here, this was basically the temperature of this particular | :16:02. | :16:04. | |
charger. The battery was initially empty so it was an initial surge of | :16:05. | :16:09. | |
power. But the fact that it eased off, you're satisfied that these | :16:10. | :16:13. | |
devices are safe? Yeah. In this instance, because the temperature | :16:14. | :16:16. | |
just started to decrease, it's considered safe. If the voltage did | :16:17. | :16:22. | |
not drop off as you can see here, then what can happen is temperatures | :16:23. | :16:24. | |
increase, increase and increase until the battery potentially could | :16:25. | :16:32. | |
rupture. With more testing, it's hoped that e-cigarettes can be made | :16:33. | :16:36. | |
safer but until then, users need to take care. It's important we get the | :16:37. | :16:43. | |
message out and say, buy them from reputable sources, make sure you | :16:44. | :16:46. | |
don't mix and match, and don't overcharge them, don't leave them | :16:47. | :16:48. | |
unattended when you're charging them. | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
If you do anything on the internet, you will have ticked those endless | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
boxes which say, I agree to the terms and conditions. Pages and | :16:57. | :16:59. | |
pages of waffle usually and most of the time we just tick. But ignoring | :17:00. | :17:04. | |
the boring bits of a web page can be expensive as Lucy's been finding | :17:05. | :17:13. | |
out. We all know the dangers of e-mail | :17:14. | :17:16. | |
scams, fake websites and virus threats. But when we're using the | :17:17. | :17:24. | |
websites of well-known companies, we can let our guard down. That can be | :17:25. | :17:33. | |
expensive. Back in September, paramedic Malcolm Morrison used the | :17:34. | :17:36. | |
Trainline.com to buy tickets for a trip to London for him and his wife | :17:37. | :17:44. | |
Sue. A few days later the website sent us another e-mail asking if we | :17:45. | :17:48. | |
wanted to buy some West End show tickets and we thought that was a | :17:49. | :17:56. | |
good idea, so we did. Malcolm entered his credit card details and | :17:57. | :18:00. | |
that's when another window popped up with some great news - he was | :18:01. | :18:11. | |
entitled to a free gift. One stuck out, Lift Serum Pro, which is | :18:12. | :18:15. | |
supposed to be better than Botox and so I thought well, my wife might | :18:16. | :18:21. | |
like it. Bet she was pleased about that! Malcolm pressed on and was | :18:22. | :18:28. | |
asked to pay ?1.99 postage. I had my credit card in my hand so I paid the | :18:29. | :18:32. | |
?1.99 postage and there was obviously this little box you had to | :18:33. | :18:35. | |
tick to accept the terms and conditions of the offer which you | :18:36. | :18:39. | |
always do on the internet, so I ticked that. So Malcolm and Sue went | :18:40. | :18:45. | |
off to enjoy their weekend in London. When we come back, the | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
package was there, inside was this Lift Serum Pro. I gave it to my wife | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
and I thought that was the end of that. Malcolm had paid the?1.99 | :18:57. | :19:00. | |
postage for the sample, but when he checked his statement the next | :19:01. | :19:07. | |
month, he had a nasty surprise. There was ?85.00 gone out to the | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
same company and I thought, what an earth is this? I thought there's | :19:12. | :19:14. | |
been a mistake, apparently that terms conditions box I'd ticked, | :19:15. | :19:18. | |
I'd agreed for them, after 14 days, to take ?85.00 out to pay for that | :19:19. | :19:22. | |
first supply, and worse than that, I was going to receive another supply | :19:23. | :19:25. | |
every month until I asked them to stop. I was suckered into this one. | :19:26. | :19:40. | |
So how did Malcolm fall for this? I'm asking consumer law expert Huw | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
Evans to look at the website. You go onto the Lift Serum Pro website and | :19:47. | :19:51. | |
at first glance you can see why he thought he was signing up for ?1.99. | :19:52. | :19:56. | |
You've just got to read the first line of the small print, you | :19:57. | :19:59. | |
wouldn't think you'd need to read any further, it says we will send | :20:00. | :20:03. | |
you a 30 day supply of the product for just shipping and handling fee | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
of ?1.99. Then you've got above, the prominence, get your risk free trial | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
today. It's only when you read a lot further down in the small print at | :20:12. | :20:15. | |
the bottom of this page that you see this sun of ?84.71. It's not | :20:16. | :20:18. | |
prominent, you are directed towards ?1.99. The issue that you have to | :20:19. | :20:23. | |
pay this extra amount on top of the ?1.99 is not mentioned in any | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
prominent form whatsoever. I could be fooled by that. Is this illegal? | :20:29. | :20:34. | |
On the face of it, I think we have misleading selling here, and that it | :20:35. | :20:42. | |
should be stopped. We wrote to Lift Serum Pro's head office in Las Vegas | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
but they've not responded to any of our letters or e-mails. | :20:47. | :20:49. | |
Thetrainline.com which is the website that Malcom says he was | :20:50. | :20:53. | |
using when he saw the Lift Serum Pro pop up, says it has nothing to do | :20:54. | :20:57. | |
with that company and it doesn't allow any pop up adverts on its | :20:58. | :21:02. | |
booking confirmation page. Earlier we met victims of a company | :21:03. | :21:05. | |
which made big promises to cut customers debts, then failed to | :21:06. | :21:11. | |
deliver. Time for Rachel to pose as a customer and hear the sales pitch | :21:12. | :21:18. | |
for herself. David Parry is a victim of a Swansea | :21:19. | :21:23. | |
company cold Claim Credit Services. He was deeply in debt when they | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
cold, offering to wipe out his credit card balances. But they | :21:28. | :21:32. | |
wanted a fee of nearly ?4,000. Now ease worse off than ever. I was just | :21:33. | :21:37. | |
about treading water, and reducing the balance. I'm now, as I say, | :21:38. | :21:42. | |
worse off. I was going to rent my house out. I'm a chilly in a | :21:43. | :21:45. | |
position now where I'm having to sell my house. At my age, I'm | :21:46. | :21:49. | |
effectively having to sell the house and the equity will pay off the | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
majority of my debt and I start from nothing. The company that took | :21:54. | :21:56. | |
David's money had this mild Nicholas Harle as its director. It was based | :21:57. | :22:01. | |
in the basement of this listed building in Swansea. It has no | :22:02. | :22:05. | |
connection with the other companies based there. This is a place with a | :22:06. | :22:10. | |
bit of history as a call centre. It used to be home to one of misty | :22:11. | :22:13. | |
Harle's businesses, Consortium Reclaim. They were on X-Ray a few | :22:14. | :22:20. | |
years ago. Then came CCS Advice, CCS Review, and most recently | :22:21. | :22:27. | |
CCS-Review. That last one is a chilly a different company and it's | :22:28. | :22:31. | |
not run by Nicholas Harle but it works out of the same call centre | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
and offers the same services. Are the claims made by this company any | :22:37. | :22:42. | |
more realistic than the last? I ring them and tell them I'm up to my neck | :22:43. | :22:49. | |
in debt, and desperate. We specialise in financial hardship and | :22:50. | :22:52. | |
in regards to the misselling of mortgages as well. This is how we | :22:53. | :22:55. | |
can get compensation for clouds like yourself. Fantastic! Compensation, | :22:56. | :23:00. | |
just what I need when I'm in debt. They're going to make some big | :23:01. | :23:03. | |
promises. First up, a massive reduction in my debts. Going off the | :23:04. | :23:09. | |
minimal claim value there, you're looking at getting compensation | :23:10. | :23:13. | |
back. If you want to write this down for me, it's just over ?25,000. It's | :23:14. | :23:19. | |
?25,252. That's just on the mortgage. He then promises nearly | :23:20. | :23:25. | |
?25,000 off my credit card debts. With the mortgage agreement, that is | :23:26. | :23:30. | |
a lot of money back for you. Then obviously, with the debt getting | :23:31. | :23:33. | |
eliminated, it is like a ?50,000 swing for you too, isn't it? Second, | :23:34. | :23:37. | |
we have to pay a ?3,200 fee but they'll charge that to my credit | :23:38. | :23:44. | |
cards and it'll be wiped out, too. The ?3214 is gone with the credit | :23:45. | :23:49. | |
card debt you have. There's nothing left for you to pay on that. Next | :23:50. | :23:55. | |
up, I'll have the money in just a few months. Right, well what's the | :23:56. | :23:59. | |
month today? It's January today, call it say start of February. | :24:00. | :24:03. | |
You're probably looking at April to get the money back. So are these | :24:04. | :24:08. | |
claims realistic? I've come to ask an expert. Processing the claim | :24:09. | :24:14. | |
forwards and obtaining compensation within 90 days then. Is that | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
feasible? It's wholly unrealistic. A mortgage misselling claim could, | :24:19. | :24:21. | |
certainly if it turned into litigation, go on for up to 18 | :24:22. | :24:25. | |
months. The notion that you could get compensation back in that sort | :24:26. | :24:32. | |
of timescale is ridiculous. We have a 100% success rate. With the FSA | :24:33. | :24:35. | |
assessment, we haven't had an unsuccessful outcome. He is giving | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
the impression that they have done this for 28,500 people. They've | :24:40. | :24:43. | |
never had an unsuccessful case. What do you make of that? On the face of | :24:44. | :24:50. | |
it, it seems to be a completely wild and unrealistic claim. No lawyer is | :24:51. | :24:52. | |
100% successful. It's just unrealistic. You have got a business | :24:53. | :24:57. | |
which is claiming to be professional, which is behaving in a | :24:58. | :25:00. | |
thoroughly unprofessional manner. Preying on vulnerable, financially | :25:01. | :25:03. | |
distressed people, offering them a service which they must know they | :25:04. | :25:06. | |
can't realistically deliver on, and in a timescale which is also wholly | :25:07. | :25:15. | |
unrealistic. David Parry faces losing his house after falling for a | :25:16. | :25:19. | |
similar sales pitch from the company which used to operate that call | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
centre. He gave them nearly ?4,000 when he was deeply in debt. Now I | :25:24. | :25:28. | |
want to find out what happened to his money. Time to pay a visit to | :25:29. | :25:34. | |
director Nicholas Harle. Nicholas Harle - we're from X-Ray. Why have | :25:35. | :25:40. | |
you been taking thousands of pounds for a service you can't deliver? I | :25:41. | :25:45. | |
think you've got the wrong person. No I haven't, It's Nicholas Harle. | :25:46. | :25:48. | |
Why have you been misleading your customers? You've got the wrong | :25:49. | :25:52. | |
person, sorry. We haven't got the wrong person, it's Nicholas Harle | :25:53. | :25:56. | |
isn't it? Sorry, no But he finally remembers who he is. You signed for | :25:57. | :26:02. | |
a letter here in the name of Nicholas Harle. OK, yeah. But can he | :26:03. | :26:08. | |
remember what happened to David's money? Your member of staff told him | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
there was no wind, no fee. He hasn't won but ease paid the fee. Nearly | :26:13. | :26:17. | |
?4,000. Ease never seen that money again. You'll have to speak to the | :26:18. | :26:21. | |
legal representative. I don't want to speak to a legal representative, | :26:22. | :26:25. | |
I want to speak to you. You're the director of the company. I'm unable | :26:26. | :26:28. | |
to comment on it, sorry Tell me your staff haven't been misleading | :26:29. | :26:32. | |
people. I'm unable to comment on it, sorry. Why are you unable to | :26:33. | :26:36. | |
comment? If you're the mild whose name is registered to the company, | :26:37. | :26:39. | |
why aren't you prepared to talk? You're prepared to ring people up in | :26:40. | :26:43. | |
their homes and mislead them and get them to pay over thousands of pounds | :26:44. | :26:47. | |
to your company, but you're not prepared to sit here and answer | :26:48. | :26:50. | |
questions. Do you know what that makes you look like? Spineless! So | :26:51. | :26:57. | |
you've got nothing to say to the people who are thousands of pounds | :26:58. | :27:04. | |
in debt? No. Because of you and your company. These people have signed | :27:05. | :27:08. | |
terms and conditions I believe. They were misled. They were misled by | :27:09. | :27:13. | |
your sales people. I don't think that's the case. Obviously I | :27:14. | :27:17. | |
apologise if somebody's lost money but I don't think that's the case. | :27:18. | :27:20. | |
You apologise if people have lost money? Are you going to give them | :27:21. | :27:24. | |
their money back? I don't have their money. So who's got the money, | :27:25. | :27:28. | |
because somebody's got it? I don't know, sorry. So that's Nicholas | :27:29. | :27:36. | |
Harle, a mild who's quite prepared to disturb you at home and ask you | :27:37. | :27:40. | |
lots of personal questions, but he really doesn't like it when you try | :27:41. | :27:47. | |
and do it to him. So that was the mild in charge of | :27:48. | :27:51. | |
running the call centre when David lost his money. By the time Rachel | :27:52. | :27:55. | |
rang, it was a different company and another mild in charge - Simon | :27:56. | :27:59. | |
Helliwell from Dorset. He didn't respond to our letters. Since our | :28:00. | :28:03. | |
investigation, his company has a new trading name - The Full Financial | :28:04. | :28:09. | |
Review. Let us know if you get a call from them. We'll see if they've | :28:10. | :28:15. | |
cleaned up their act. Next week, they promised her a | :28:16. | :28:18. | |
lifetime guarantee after she spent thousands on laser eye surgery. Now | :28:19. | :28:23. | |
they've changed their mind. It's the worst thing I ever did, Until then - | :28:24. | :28:28. | |
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