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You're watching X-Ray, the programme that fights

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In a scam or dealt a raw deal, we are on your side. Exposing the truth

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and tracking down blokes, we will not take no for an answer.

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Tonight: They picked a top travel company

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to arrange their wedding in paradise.

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They said that they'd been there that the pictures were good,

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This stairlift is the key to Dora's independence.

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Pins have actually worked their way out, if those pins do come out this

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part of the rail can actually collapse.

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And, fed up juggling passwords, Could this be the answer?

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First tonight - Rachel's been to meet a couple whose dream wedding

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in the Caribbean didn't turn out quite as they'd hoped.

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Every couple dreams of a fairy tale wedding.

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Emily and Tommy Tsiattalou from Penarth near Cardiff

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It all started with a romantic proposal in Majorca.

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We always go over to this little island.

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Proposed to her when we climbed to the top of the mountain.

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I remember thinking, wow, he'd thought about that.

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With the ring on Emily's finger the wedding planning began.

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I didn't want a big fuss, just intimate family,

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We both agreed somewhere abroad would be ideal.

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I wanted to do something that wasn't a traditional wedding,

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Emily and Tommy visited the Thomson Holiday Superstore

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They were sort of really over zealous about how amazing everything

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was over there and how much we would not be regretting

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With their minds made up Emily and Tommy booked an all-inclusive

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holiday with Thomson's sister company First Choice -

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staying at the five star Azul Fives resort on the Caribbean coast.

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Their wedding would take place at the same venue on 9

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That was it then it was all weddings, weddings, weddings.

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We were talking about it all the time.

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Counting down the months, then it was counting down the days

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The happy couple paid ?17,000, for themselves, their five children

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and close family members - everyone else who was invited

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The venue was booked, the date was set and

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All Emily and Tommy had to do was jet off and tie

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But the couple's five-star experience hit turbulence as soon

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First the kids weren't allowed to join them in the VIP Lounge.

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Then the vegetarian in-flight meal wasn't exactly five star!

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All the way on an eleven hour flight.

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He was so wound up on the plane I said don't worry just relax,

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Tom, when we get there, we'll be just fine.

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When they arrived at their five star resort they intended

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But what they found in their room left them feeling very flat.

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We found mouldy plates of food from the previous guests.

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We had to use all of our bath towels to dry the floor.

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The light shades were hanging off, the plug sockets fell out

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There were so many things wrong with that room.

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We started to see rat droppings around the bath area.

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She was sorry for the problems we had had so far and would log

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We didn't have much faith in the hotel to even get anything

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right, so we were praying the wedding would go

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But when the big day finally arrived Tommy began getting nervous

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I was supposed to have transport from the room,

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to the wedding, but that didn't arrive.

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Eventually the hotel sent a golf buggy to take him to the ceremony.

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The couple took their vows in the Caribbean sunshine.

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On their wedding night, they got a new room.

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It had an interesting water feature...

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There was severe health and safety issues with water running down

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It should have been the holiday of a lifetime.

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They'd spent ?17,000, but - after a lot of haggling -

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all First Choice offered was ?2,000 worth of vouchers towards another

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of their holidays - which they didn't want!

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We essentially were sold the dream by the company,

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and it turned out to be a nightmare when we got there.

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We trusted them that they'd been there, that the pictures were good,

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that it was going to be special for us.

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So, have the tour operator First Choice had to say?

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Well they've apologised to Tommy and Emily for the problems they had

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- and say they did try to do everything they could to resolve

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And they have now agreed to inprove their offer

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Now, I'm joined by consumer law expert Professor Margaret Griffiths.

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Margaret - this isn't the first time we've come across cases

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where companies have offered compensation in vouchers.

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Well, they are allowed to in that it's not illegal, but,

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Whatever the compensation is that you're due, you're entitled to have

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If you choose to accept it in vouchers, that's your business,

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but there's no obligation on you to do so.

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So what's your advice then, Margaret, if the holiday doesn't go

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according to plan, what should you do?

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Well, first off you must, must, must complain to the rep

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Make sure they know all the details, exactly what the problem

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is and what you're looking for them to do.

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Also, of course, make sure you take lots of photographs,

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videos, comments from other people at the hotel who have

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And we do get a lot of complaints about package holidays.

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Realistically, can you expect to get the full value

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If it's been an absolute disaster from start to finish, then yes.

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But in practice, if the flights have been fine, there's no

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If you've been staying in a hotel for 14 days,

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and there was a problem for three of them, and the rest was perfectly

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OK, then the compensation reflects the problem on those three days,

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and that's quite a reasonable approach for them to take.

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And straight after the programme tonight, Margaret's going to be

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on the BBC Cymru Wales Facebook page, answering any questions

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It could be how to avoid a scam when you're booking,

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or what your rights are if things don't meet your expectations.

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So that's on the BBC Cymru Wales Facebook

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page at eight o'clock, straight after this programme.

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Still to come tonight - Linda thought this ?500 computer

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would help her to rehome these rescued dogs.

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Next - Rhod's investigating the new technology which could mean

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you no longer have to remember passwords for everything!

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Keeping our money safe can be a bit of a juggling act.

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Dozens of accounts all needing a password -

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that's a lot of balls to keep in the air!

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Many of us base our passwords on personal information

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But that also makes it easy for criminals to crack our codes -

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I think I use the same password for everything,

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But soon you might not need a password at all!

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Imagine being able stay one step ahead of criminals

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by using your own body as a secure password!

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It's called Biometrics - using things like fingerprints

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or the patterns in your eyes to identify you.

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The latest technology to hit the mainstream promises high grade

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It's voice biometrics and it uses our speech patterns

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It's already widely used in Australia and Canada.

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In a few months' time, HSBC and First Direct will be

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offering this technology to 15 million UK customers who use

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So what we have here is a voice biometric system that

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analyses your voice and that can determine that you are

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who you say you are, based on the characteristics

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Such as the rhythms of your speech. We pick up these characteristics.

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The voice biometric algorithms look for over 100 different

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characteristics, some of those are physical,

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some of those are behavioural, such as the rhythm of your speech,

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do you speak in peaks and valleys, do you speak in a monotone

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These are all characteristics that we're picking up to make sure

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OK, well let's put this to the test, let's give it a go.

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The first thing I needed to do was register my voice so the system

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So - will it allow Brett to access my account?

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Computer: Please say your passphrase again.

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It's basically not letting me through.

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Next, it was time to hit the streets so I could test the system.

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Brett stayed in the office to monitor the calls.

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I'm in the centre of London, a noisy street, building works

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Hello, it's Rhodri Owen here from BBC Wales' X-Ray.

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We're sorting out security features where it's all down to the voice.

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We're collecting the audio - and we've got a positive match,

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Right, I'm going to complicate this a little bit more now with a little

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Rhodri Owen sydd fan hyn yn Llundain.

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When he was speaking in a normal fashion in Welsh or in English,

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it's the same voice characteristics, even though the words

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I was determined to cheat the system so I played a little trick on it.

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I made a high quality recording of my voice.

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Would the Biometric software recognise that

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Now, it's suspicious that this was a recording, so it's asking me

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to say a completely different random phrase before it will let me in.

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And there's no way I'll have a recording of THAT

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It looks pretty good - so could the days of juggling

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Unfortunately, there isn't really such a thing as a fail-safe system

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in the world, let alone in technology and security.

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If our passwords get hacked, we're in trouble.

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But with biometrics, the stakes are even higher.

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It does get more serious if you're building up a data base of people's

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digital profiles, which includes their fingerprints,

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That becomes incredibly serious and people perhaps need to be more

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serious about understanding what exactly they would do if their

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So when it comes to keeping our financial data secure,

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biometrics is a pretty exciting step forward to a brave new world.

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But the tried-and-tested password will be around for a while yet.

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And voice recognition is really starting to take off.

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In the last couple of days, Telecoms giant Talk Talk

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has just started using the technology.

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If you sign up for it - let us know how you get on.

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Now, we've been getting tweets about Mothers' Day flowers

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which still haven't arrived three weeks later!

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Rob Evans from Usk in Monmouthshire wanted to say it with flowers -

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so he ordered an ?18 bunch from a website called

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But he was far from delighted with the service he received.

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When you've gone to the trouble of organising flowers,

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when you're having to ring on the Monday and Tuesday

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and they still haven't arrived, erm, you, uh...

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Under new consumer laws, if you order something

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for a specific occasion and it doesn't arrive in time,

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Now we've got in touch with Delightful Bouquets -

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and they admitted there was a problem with a supplier.

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They've agreed to give Rob a full refund.

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Next, I've been to meet the owners of a kennels in Llandysul,

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whose experience of buying a computer turned out to be a bit

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If you are anything like me, when you need to replace

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or fix your computer you call in the professionals.

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And you'd assume hiring someone who calls themselves

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an IT Consultant would be a safe pair of hands.

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Linda White and Tony King from Llandysul rely

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on their computer to run their kennels and animal rescue service.

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It is our lifeline, we're in the middle of nowhere,

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we cover the whole of the UK with our rescue dogs.

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Advertising, invoicing, everything is done on the computer.

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But back in January last year, it was them that needed rescuing

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when their old computer went to the dogs.

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They turned to a local computer firm, MY IT Matters,

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He said he would build us a new one, an upgrade,

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he said he was going to put Windows 7 on it, he said

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Tony and Linda agreed to pay him ?500.

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He took the old one away to download all the data and transfer

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He brought the computer and set it up.

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I asked had he got my old computer and he said,

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it's no good to you, you don't need it.

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He has got the hard drive with all our personal details on it

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which we want back right now, really.

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I lost a load of data when he transferred the stuff,

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I have lost a lot of my photographs of my rescue dogs from 2014 that

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I need, it's my records of what I had in.

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A month later, there were yet more problems.

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I get a sign coming up saying my Windows 7 Professional

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needed a code put in, which I haven't got.

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I now get a black screen saying the copy of Windows is not genuine.

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It crashes at least five times a day

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and slow, a snail could beat it.

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Linda and Tony have complained to MY IT Matters 16 times,

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So they called in a PC expert to inspect their computer.

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He said the Windows was only the trial version

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and that it was just a complete and utter waste of money.

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I feel as though I have been ripped off.

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I decided to do some digging into MY IT Matters.

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The website certainly looks impressive.

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The company's been trading for 12 years, they have three offices

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in west Wales and lots of expert staff.

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But we couldn't find any addresses for those three offices.

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And despite claiming to be a Limited company, it's not.

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Trading Standards told us this is misleading and breaches

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We took Tony and Linda's PC to a cyber forensics research lab

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Let's have a look and see what's inside.

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This is a minimalistic board, 4GB of RAM, your processor is not

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that powerful, it is a low-power pc board.

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Well, there's about ?100-?120 worth of components there

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so if I was buying that from a shop I would expect to pay somewhere

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This micro PC which children are using in school today,

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which retails for about ?30-?40, is as powerful as Tony

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He's conceivably committing a criminal act under the Theft Act

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IT consultant is quite a glamourous title, isn't it?

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But the real victims are the rescue dogs.

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Without an effective computer, Linda can't put them online,

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Just like the dogs, Linda feels she's been abandoned.

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He has just swept me under the carpet.

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I have asked him for help but he's just not interested any more.

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Well, after Tony and Linda wrote to us we took up their case

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He says he's sorry they're not happy with his work but insists he did

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everything he could for them, including some work free of charge.

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Matthew insists he discussed the specifications of computer

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with them and gave them a genuine Windows 7 access code.

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He hasn't said where the old hard drive is, but says the data on it

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Next, I've been to Denbighshire to meet an elderly couple who paid

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thousands for a stairlift they are now too scared to use.

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We all get old, and when we do we sometimes need a little extra

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help with everyday things, like climbing the stairs.

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For Gwyn and Dora Hughes from Ruthin, a stairlift was vital

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if they were to stay in their own home.

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My mother, who's 85, had a fall outside her home,

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broke her hip, was in hospital for seven weeks.

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But it was crucial really that we had a stairlift installed

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at home for my mother to come home as she wouldn't have been able

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Gwyn and Dora's daughter Olwen found a contractor -

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the very regal-sounding Balmoral Stairlifts.

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Director Quinn O'Loughlin came out and offered to install

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a reconditioned Stannah chair for ?3,500.

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The family paid their deposit and hoped for a fine level

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But instead, they ended up in a right royal mess!

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They say they asked for the stairlift to end

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on the landing so Dora could step off easily.

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Balmoral even removed the old radiator to make way for it.

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Instead, the chair stops short of the landing,

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The power-assisted swivel doesn't work either so 91-year-old husband

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It just doesn't make sense for us, safety-wise.

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As you can see, we feel it's dangerous stopping here.

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If my mother opened this belt, safety belt here,

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before swivelling the chair, she could really fall and be

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They used to be here safe in their own home.

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And now we feel they're not and it's a constant worry.

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Left with a potentially dangerous stairlift,

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the family complained to director Quinn O'Loughlin.

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But he told them it was a "standard finish" and if they wanted it

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altered, they'd have to pay another ?1,000!

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So, what would an expert make of Balmoral's installation?

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First being the base leg is not secured at all.

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It's just sort of left flapping around.

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There's a lot of movement on the chair.

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Yeah, it does seem very unstable, loose.

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These pins that are sticking out there.

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Those have actually worked their way loose out of the rail.

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If those do come out, this part of the rail

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And the whole thing could drop which would put you in

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Steve's also worried about the electrics.

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There's been a hole drilled into the battery charger

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and the wires have been shoved inside.

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That's a safety concern, obviously - electricity, fire, things like that.

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That is not the standard way of fitting the battery charger.

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And in your opinion that is a danger?

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That needs to be rectified straightaway.

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I'm sorry, that was a shock, wasn't it?

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Thank you very much for exposing it all.

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I was concerned for it as it was but now its made us more

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The family is devasted by the quality of the work.

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But Balmoral Stairlifts has posted pictures of their lift online -

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and describes them as "very happy customers"!

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They are not the only people fed up with Balmoral.

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86-year-old Derek Hine from Rhos on Sea wanted a repair to his lift.

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He couldn't get it working so off he went.

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He came back for a third visit and decided the transformer

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He then asked for ?300 for the batteries and transformer.

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But after Balmoral fitted the new parts, the stair-lift

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Anyway, he came back for a fifth visit and wasn't getting anywhere.

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I said I'm not spending any more money on it,

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So Balmoral left, taking the new parts Derek had paid for.

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In the end, the family brought in another company who fixed

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the lift in one visit but Quinn O'loughlin never returned

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We've got court order against him and he's ignored that too.

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He had a deadline and he's just ignored everything.

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So what do you think of the way that your dad's been treated?

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It's just disgusting, isn't it, to think that people think it's OK

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Back in Denbighshire, Dora, Gwyn and their daughter Olwen

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It's very stressful for us, we are concerned that are parents

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aren't safe in there own home which they have been for 60 years.

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It's very disappointing that a company can treat someone

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We've taken up these complaints with Quinn O'Loughlin of

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In Derek's case he has apologised for any distress he's caused

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but says he went through the correct procedures to fix the problem.

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Even though he visited the house five times,

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he says he wasn't allowed to finish the job.

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But there are no apologies for Gwyn and Dora.

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And he's offering them no further help.

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He does say he discussed the specifications of the stairlift

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before it was installed and says they were always going to get

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If you - or your elderly relatives - have had dealings with

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Quinn O'Loughlin we'd like to hear from you.

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Why did it take a furniture chain a whole year,

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I don't know how they could get it so wrong.

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Now we are nearly at the end of this series, but we are planning some

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special holiday programmes in the summer.

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So if you have something you want us to investigate give us a call.

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And you can find us on twitter @BBCXray.

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But if you want some expert advice before that -

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Professor Margaret Griffiths - one of Wales top consumer law

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experts is live on Facebook right now giving advice on any

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The session - which is on the BBC Cymru Wales page -

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not the news page - runs until half past eight -

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Remember, don't include company names!

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We won't be able to answer if you do!

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And that's it for this week - see you next Monday.

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