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Rachel tackles the boss of one of Britain's worst claims firms.

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Rachel, I have nothing further to add, I have made a statement

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We investigate a terrifying spate of exploding e-cigarettes.

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It was like a firework in your pocket.

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And you don't have to be a James Bond super-villain

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I'll be finding out why so many of us are investing in gold.

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Wales's second largest city and home to hundreds of call centres!

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Many are legitimate companies but over the years, plenty of others

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have given the industry here a bad name.

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PPI firm Rock Law was fined ?500,000 for its dodgy sales tactics.

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And the bosses of bogus satellite warranty firm Aurora Logistics

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were jailed for conspiracy to defraud customers.

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Even call centre staff were taken to court.

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You'd think that after all that

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the industry would have cleaned up its act.

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An ugly, lovely town...or so it was and is to me,

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crawling, sprawling by a long and splendid curving shore...

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Swansea - in the words of its most famous son, Dylan Thomas.

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The lovely bit is here for all to see.

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In business parks, and in neighbouring towns,

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the shadier side of the call centre industry still lingers.

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The cold-callers who promise the earth in return

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A local claims firm has just been named and shamed as one of the most

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JAS Financial Advisory Services Ltd has so many unhappy customers

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that the Legal Ombudsman raised the alarm.

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In the first six months of 2016, we received 92 complaints about JAS,

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which was the most complaints we'd ever had for any open

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People have felt very distressed, they have felt exploited and it

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certainly isn't acceptable for a claims management company

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Confusingly, JAS uses three different trading names -

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Hampton Rae, Litchfield Price and NLC Solutions.

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Louise O'Callaghan from Bridgend fell for their sparkling sales

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I had a phone call one afternoon, and I was in a bit

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of a rush, and this lady phoned me up, and she said you've got

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They said it would be a few thousand.

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Jazz trumpeter Mike Loizos from Cardiff was also

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They said we can definitely get you ?1500 back,

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and we'll definitely do it within a month.

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Mike and Louise were also told they'd get their ?495

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We spoke to a whistle-blower who worked in one of the company's

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They'd promise them the world.

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They'd tell them that they're owed so much money

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and that they can get it back if they pay the ?500.

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The woman agreed to talk anonymously about the pressure -

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It used to be like a competition between everyone.

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One of them was a weekend to New York, there was another one

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that was a trip to Las Vegas, and everything was paid for.

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There was another one that was a car.

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But whilst some of the staff were quids in,

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it was a very different story for out of pocket

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I phoned a lot of times, emailed a lot of times,

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and I was just trying to be a nuisance really.

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It took Mike nearly two years to get his money back.

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but is still waiting for her fee back.

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They probably think, She'll give up in the end

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Tales of shoddy service like this led the Ministry

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of Justice to launch an inquiry into JAS.

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So, with the company under investigation,

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surely they'd mend their ways and stop making those promises

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To find out, I called NLC Solutions -

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one of their trading names - posing as a potential customer.

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So there's an initial fee of ?495 that's fully

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refundable to yourself whether you are unsuccessful

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They later called back, eager to seal the deal.

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What is your success rate like, then?

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And it seems no-one is ever out of pocket.

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That's not what the Legal Ombudsman think.

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They say customers have ended up worse off after dealing with JAS.

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Nothing was happening after they'd paid their up-front

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fee, so not only were these people losing the fee that they'd paid,

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most of those folks had paid for their fee on a credit card,

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so they were also being charged interest on the credit card that

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So what would they tell me when I asked how

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I don't have that money - so I would have to put it

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on a credit card if I was going to do that.

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Our slick salesman insists I won't rack up

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interest on my credit card, as I'll know whether I'm due

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If I don't have PPI on anything, I'll still

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He adds that I'll get any compensation within 12 weeks.

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It's clear the company are still making the same dubious promises.

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To find out why, we wrote to director Lloyd Davis.

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He replied, but didn't answer most of our questions.

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We're heading to Pontardawe, the home of JAS's call centre.

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It's just before ten o'clock in the morning.

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We're parked up outside the call centre waiting for Lloyd Davis

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Why are you still promising fast PPI pay-outs?

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I'm from BBC XRay and I want to know why you are still promising people

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I understand that you have contacted my office,

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Yes, and you haven't answered the questions I have.

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Rachel, I have nothing further to add, I have made a statement

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The legal ombudsman has felt the need to put a warning

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about you in the public interest because you continue to do this,

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92 people complaining about you this year.

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a man who doesn't mind cold- calling you,

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but when we come cold-calling on him

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Well, as Lloyd Davis said there, he did send us

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He insists there are many happy customers

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He admits there have been flaws in the sales process,

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he's apologised and says he's been working hard to put things right.

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He does say though that he couldn't discuss Louise and Mike's cases

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for 'legal reasons', which means there is no update

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Now, if you've had dealings with JAS,

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or there's anything else you want us to look into, remember to call.

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The number as always is 03703 334 334.

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You can email [email protected] or send us a tweet!

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Still to come: The e-cigarettes causing fires

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like this, and exploding in people's pockets.

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We were quite surprised really when we were seeing more

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and more patients coming in with these sorts of injuries.

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And Omar's dazzled by a golden investment opportunity!

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There was a bit of excitement when the brand new ?5 note

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They're tougher - and more difficult to copy

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so there should be fewer fakes about.

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And these new notes could be worth an awful lot more than a fiver!

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Some people have been cashing in, selling them for hundreds

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Let's see what people here in Swansea

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What do you make of the new ?5 notes?

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I've had my first one today actually.

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It's a little bit like Monopoly money I think,

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If it is one of the very, very first you want it could be worth a lot

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more. I will start looking for the descent. I checked the numbers

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already. Really? Hang on! I saw that. What would you do if you find

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one? I would keep hold of it, would you? Philip letter? I would be more

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interested in finding the last series of the paper ones, because

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both are going to be worth ten times more than plastic. I will check my

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fivers, and everybody else's. Looks like people here in Swansea

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are going to be keeping an eye But one crucial piece

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of advice for you - This photo of a shrunken five pound

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note appeared on social media after it apparently ended up

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in the tumble dryer! Now, if you do accidentally

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damage your new note You might be able

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to get it replaced! We'll put details about that

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and those serial numbers And talking about money,

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with rock bottom interest rates, investing in coins and precious

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metal is becoming more popular too. So we sent our very own 'golden

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boy', Omar, to check it out. For more than 1,000 years,

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the Royal Mint has been Here at Llantrisant they produce 850

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coins every minute of every day. These days they don't just

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make pounds and pence. This is one part of the Mint

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you will never get to see, because here they make bullion

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coins. Sovereigns, Britannias and Lunars,

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you won't find these in your change They start at around ?150

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and because they're legal tender they're exempt from VAT

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and capital gains tax. And right now, we're

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snapping them up. Gold is seen as a safe haven

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among other investments. And you know that's really what's

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happened in the last few months, with Brexit, and with the economy

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in China and low interest rates. How are you going to create

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a profit in your investment? Are they oligarchs and billionaires

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or are they Dave in the pub? So we do have some real high net

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worths, people who have a lot of money to invest and the really

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interesting thing is we have people who are investing who are

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just like you and me. The Royal Mint has only been selling

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bullion coins online for two years. But in the days before the internet,

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remember those, they produced some of the world's most sought

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after and valuable sovereigns. This one was originally designed

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for King Edward VIII, who then abdicated, meaning it

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could never be issued. Antique coins could fetch me

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a pretty penny. But if I fancy investing,

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I'm going to need a heads up. And who better to speak

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to that a numismatist. To save you Googling that,

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that means coin collector. Anthony Halse has been buying

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and selling antique coins for more than 30 years and knows the market

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like the back of his hand. The big money is in what we call

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the early milled series This is a George IV

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sovereign of 1827. And this is a George

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IV sovereign of 1823. This coin is worth ?450,

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and this coin is worth ?1,350. The reason for the difference

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is the quality. Quality will always increase

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in value and has Try and buy coins that are a good

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eye appeal, problem I want to take this

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to the next level. I want to have big

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blocks of? But how do I get my

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hands on one of these? Well, the Royal Mint,

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like other companies out there, offers investors the chance

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to own their very own bar of gold. And they come in all

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shapes and sizes! When people think about gold,

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this is the traditional sort Do I need half a million pounds

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for the big bar or can I invest Well, you certainly need half

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a million pounds for the big bar, but you can start your investment

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for as little as ?20. You can invest based on the amount

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that you want to invest as opposed I'm looking at this bar of gold,

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which is about almost half a million pounds, and I could own that

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bit of it, or that bit So this could be owned

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by hundreds of people? If you want to invest

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in a whole bar. Maybe it's time for a change

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of gear. Are there any risks in steering

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all my savings towards gold? Before motoring on, I'd better get

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some independent advice. If you've got a savings

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account, the rates may be Poor, but at least

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you're getting interest. The same with shares where you'll

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be getting dividends. Or even holding it in property,

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where rent is coming in. With gold you're reliant

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upon the value of gold going up. If it goes down, then obviously

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you lose money. Over the last few months gold

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has done really well. Is it something you should invest

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in short term or more long term? Obviously like any investment

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it can go down in value. So that's why you need to look

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at any kind of investment like this So if you invested between 2011

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and 2015 you would have lost about 40% of your value, on average,

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whilst the last year you would have You should only hold a small

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proportion of your money in one For most investors it's just

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too high risk. So gold may seem like a shining

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investment right now, but just like any other commodity,

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it's influenced by the ebb But you know what, if it's

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all about the looks, When was the last time

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you used a payphone? Thanks to mobile phones,

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their use has fallen sharply. BT now plans to remove almost half

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of them across Wales, CPRW are concerned that mobile phone

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signals in many rural areas If this does go down, a payphone can

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be a lifeline for many people. If you want to save your local phone

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box, let your council know ASAP. Variable speed limit signs have been

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flashing above the M4 near Newport for five years,

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but no-one's ever been prosecuted! Anyone caught speeding could be

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fined or get points And Christmas may be 11 weeks away

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but now's the time to book for big savings on your

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festive train travel. Ticket prices will shoot up

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as the big day approaches. So be an early bird and use the cash

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you save for some extra pressies! Now, if you walk down any high

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street in Wales you'll spot people But here in Swansea,

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they've been sparking E-Cigarettes came on the market

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around 10 years ago and now they're everywhere, 140,000 of us

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in Wales are vaping. Many smokers say it's helped them

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cut down or quit smoking altogether. But recently, doctors

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here at Morriston Hospital in Swansea have noticed a new trend

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affecting e-cigarette users. Over the last year we've seen

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about five cases of people referred to us because of burns

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sustained by e-cigarettes. Adam Mosley from Maesteg started

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smoking as a teenager. Four years ago he switched

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to e-cigarettes. I can walk a distance now,

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whereas before I was struggling. But back in March, while working

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on a farm, the e-cigarette that was supposed to help improve

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Adam's health had I went to make a phone call

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and that's when the battery went off It was like a firework

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in your pocket. I just put my hand in my pocket

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and pulled out the battery. It felt like my leg

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was still on fire. Adam was carrying a spare

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e-cigarette battery in his pocket, when it spontaneously exploded,

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burning a large area of his thigh. He was treated at Morriston

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Hospital's burns unit. I think the concern

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is that we haven't seen these cases before so it's all occurred this

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year in 2016. It is a worry and we are quite

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surprised really when we see patients coming in with these

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sorts of injuries. This man had the e-cig

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in his pocket and it exploded. He had the e-cig in his

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hand and it exploded. Similar incidents have been

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reported around the world. Like this one, caught on CCTV

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in Kentucky in the USA. Explosions can be fierce,

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causing severe burns which can take So what would your advice

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be if somebody does If their clothes catch alight then

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the first thing they should do And in rolling they can extinguish

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any of the flames on their clothing. It's not advisable to pat the flames

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out because you'll burn your hands. Then remove the burnt clothing

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and then run the burnt area under cold water for at least 10 to 20

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minutes to cool the burn. That's really, really

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important because that And then call for help or go

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to your local A department. And those small e-cigarette

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batteries also have the potential to cause devastation

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of a very different kind. Linda James-Davies from Cardiff

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was at home one evening I noticed my e-cigarette

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needed to be charged up. I put it on to charge up

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and went downstairs. I could smell smoke,

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went upstairs and just watched my The back bedroom which I was

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sleeping in was gone. The little bedroom was all smoke

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damaged and the front bedroom. A fire service investigation blamed

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a faulty e-cigarette charger, which had caused the battery

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to overheat and explode. Was it a massive shock that an e-cig

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could cause a fire like that? It was frightening and to

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know your home's gone. The fire forced Linda

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to leave her home. She's now stopped using

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e-cigarettes. If it was in the night,

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perhaps I wouldn't. I tell you what, I wouldn't

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recommend anyone to have them, There's little regulation

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of the sale of e-cigarettes and chargers, especially online

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where Adam bought his. Seven months on, he's

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still recovering from his ordeal. The burn was so deep it damaged

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the muscle on my leg. I couldn't walk, couldn't do

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nothing. You've got to be careful,

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you ve got to be mega careful. Don't keep a loose battery

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in your pocket. If it s got the slightest

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bit of damage on there, For the sake of a few quid it

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could save you a lot of pain Now, the sale of dangerous

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e-cigarettes and chargers is something Swansea Trading Standards

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are keeping a close eye on, so I've come here to find out

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more about the warning Rhys, is it the cheaper

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batteries and chargers that Yeah, what we tend to find is,

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it is the cheaper products that are coming in and the r'ason they're

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cheaper is because they re not getting tested to the standards

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to make sure they comply. The plugs themselves should

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have a safety device to prevent excess power coming from the plug

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and then in the device itself, either in the charging lead

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or in the electronic-cigarette, there should be a device

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in there that stops the battery from overcharging which is

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where it could explode. Some people's e-cigarettes have just

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exploded in their pockets! Yes and be careful when you're

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carrying them round. If they're banged and knocked quite

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heavily, discard them. And if you're charging them don't

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leave them unattended. Don't leave them charging overnight

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because again it could cause a fire and you're not going to be able

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to be there to deal What should people look out for Rhys

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when they're buying these products? All of these products should

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have a CE mark on them to ensure that they have been tested

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to a European standard, SGS are an international testing

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company. They never tested these products

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so if you have anything with an SGS mark on it that's a bit of a concern

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because it shouldn't be on there. Go to a reputable retailer,

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somewhere that's traceable that you can go back to, and if you get

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a problem you can tell us It's a worrying story but some

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potentially good news. From next May, tobacco

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products will have to be That should make it easier to spot

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the ones which don't But remember, we're here

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to fight your corner. So if you need our help,

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do get in touch. Next week: The lying landlord

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who took a young couple's money All along, that's all he wanted

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to do was have the ?900 and just go. We'll see you next Monday at the

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later time of 8:30pm. Hello, I'm Riz Lateef

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with your 90-second update. He went to post cards announcing

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the birth of his daughter. London lecturer Jeroen Ensink

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was stabbed to death by Femi Nandap, who had mental illness bought

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on by cannabis use.

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