Prison Dads


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You're lying most of the time. "Daddy's going to be there soon."

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I've still got 22 months left. "Daddy's going to be there soon."

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I'm lying. I can't help it.

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I don't know whether he knows I'm his dad yet.

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Not having that bond really does feel horrible.

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Glen Parva in Leicester,

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the biggest young offenders' institution in Britain.

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The prisoners here are five times more likely to be dads

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than other young men their age.

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Have you come to see your daddy?

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Doggy!

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I don't want to make him cry.

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I'm missing out on too much time in my kid's life.

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I'm willing to stop, I'm willing to change, I'm willing to try.

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Aw! Nice(!)

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Daddy allowed a Quaver?

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The first time I met him, he was ten days old.

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I spend a couple of hours with him, then he's taken away from me again.

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Over six months, we follow fathers on the inside

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and their partners on the outside

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struggling to keep together their fledgling families.

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I've been by myself for two and a half years.

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I've already told him when he gets out,

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he's got one chance and that's it.

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Having a little boy feels like he's given me a bit of hope, really.

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Once these few years are over,

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I can go out and be a proper dad.

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DOOR SLAMS SHUT

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This programme contains some strong language.

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Wakey-wakey!

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You need to get up, son. What you doing?

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Right then, boys!

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Gaz?

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20-year-old Michael Rowley is serving his third prison sentence

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and knows the system well.

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Today, he's helping to hand out prisoners' grocery orders.

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One of one, two of two.

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Everything you see in front of you is what people order for the week.

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Their weekly shopping, innit.

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It's their weekly shop.

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Food, toiletries, Lynxes, Radox.

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What one's the best?

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Obviously, a Lynx.

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Why obviously?

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Because Lynx is a, is a...it's a decent shower gel, innit.

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Aaarrgghh!

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Aaarrgghh!

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Michael also works in the wing's laundry room.

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Everything in there is prison-issue.

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I definitely ain't wearing these trousers.

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No cuffs on the trousers either. The state of them, man!

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I do not wear them prison-issue socks and boxers. That is a no-no.

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I am not wearing the next man's boxers.

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Them boxers probably been in the jail

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since I was not even thought of.

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Today, Michael's son Rhys is getting ready to visit his dad.

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So how old is Rhys?

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Um...

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Oh, I always forget this, man. I'm not good at this.

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He's about 17 months. 17 months.

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-So were you in the actual room when he was born?

-Yeah.

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Course.

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Got to make sure I see him come out.

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First thing, he comes straight to me.

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What was that like?

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Er...I don't know. Good, innit. It was good. It was amazing.

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Obviously, seeing my son being born

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and then getting to hold him straightaway.

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What was it like seeing a woman give birth?

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HE LAUGHS

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It's sad. I don't know, man, I just...

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Obviously, it's natural, innit? Obviously.

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Oh, God! It's weird, though.

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It's nasty, as well, at the end,

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and you see all these things gushing out, like, ew!

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Josie, Rhys' mum, met Michael when she was 15.

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Hiya, sweetheart. Have you come to see your daddy?

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She has spent most of their five-year relationship

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visiting him in prison.

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How old was Rhys when you came into prison?

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About two, two and a half months.

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Three, max.

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17 months already and all of that time, I've been in jail.

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'What do you feel you've missed out on?'

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Everything. The whole lot.

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I ain't never going to get the time to put him to sleep any more.

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That's all gone now for good, that is.

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And never seeing him do all his first words, trying to crawl.

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All the funny baby stuff he's done.

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None of that. I don't get to see that ever again now.

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Yay!

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This? This?

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Give it to Daddy.

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This. Ta.

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What do you want?

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'He was 16, or just turning 16.'

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Crouched over that railing like he was some...

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..cool man.

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I had a lot of butterflies. It was weird.

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I think I saw him as a person more than anyone else would see it, like.

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People used to think, "Oh, yeah, he's a bad boy."

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And I kind of saw his softer side.

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Even though he doesn't like to admit he's got a soft side,

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he thinks he can deal with anything, but he can't.

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Not really.

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I just thought he was cute.

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-Wipe your mouth.

-Wipe your mouth, Rhys.

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Good boy. And there. And there.

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On you, on you. Do it to you. Do it to you.

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He was always talking about children.

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How many kids we're going to have. What we were going to call them.

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Who it was going to look like.

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In my head, I thought, "Oh, yeah, we're going to be a family.

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"I'll be pregnant, going to get our own place together."

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Mum, dad, son.

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Just a general family.

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And both be happy with each other.

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'And what actually happened?'

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'The opposite.'

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Is that nice, Rhys?

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What have you been doing today?

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-Servery?

-Huh?

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-Servery?

-Course, innit.

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'He was seeing another woman behind my back.

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'He'd had another kid with that woman.'

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I'd just given birth when I found out...

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..what was going on.

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Um...

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I wanted the ground to just eat me.

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-SHE WHISPERS:

-Oh, man!

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TANNOY BEEPS

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Home time.

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-Uh-oh!

-Uh-oh!

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Wipe your face.

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Come on, quickly, Rhys. Give Daddy a kiss.

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He'd been in jail for 24 months before this conviction,

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before I got pregnant with Rhys.

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I waited the whole of them 24 months...

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..for him to come out.

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To think I'd got, like, the man of my dreams and all this.

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And, like, "Ooh, yeah, I've got my perfect family,

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"I'm going to have a baby with the man that I love," and all this.

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And then it just comes crashing down, like.

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It's not even a family any more.

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SHE SIGHS

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There's someone else there.

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See you later.

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Rhys?

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Say bye-bye to Daddy.

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Bye-bye.

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Are you in a relationship with Josie?

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Nah.

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Not at the moment.

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Kind of, but...

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We are, yeah, but...

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Obviously, I put my own self in the situation, yeah,

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by doing what I did, messing around and that.

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It's a mess. I don't talk about it.

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I don't even think about it, I just leave it as it is.

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20-year-old Michael Yorke has recently arrived at Glen Parva.

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It's his first time in prison

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and his girlfriend is expecting their first child.

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It's still early days for me while I've been inside,

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and I've only been in a few week and that, so...

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That's probably why it's so hard,

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cos it's so early and that.

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But...

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Suppose it'll be a bit better...

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Well, it's not going to get better, is it? Get easier to deal with.

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If my little boy was here, it would be all right.

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I've got all faith that it's going to end well.

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It's got to.

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Michael's baby is due next month.

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He calls his pregnant girlfriend every day.

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At the end of the day, you've still got more than two weeks left.

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Yeah. Should be this week, then.

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She's sitting on, you know, like, a medicine ball?

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She's going to bounce on one of them,

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-she reckons she's going to do star jumps...

-Star jumps?!

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What else? Taking these raspberry summat tablets,

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which are supposed to help the baby come on.

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I can't wait.

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It's hard, though, doing it by herself, mate.

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-When's the due date, man?

-Two weeks away, mate. Two weeks on Friday.

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-She's feeling it already?

-Yeah.

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The hospital says basically it's ready to come.

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We'll see, lad.

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It's been a year since my accident. A year today.

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Been out drinking with my mates, drove home...

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and didn't make it.

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Two of my best mates lost their life,

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down to my actions and that.

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In October 2011,

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Michael and three friends

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were out clubbing on a Friday night in Leicester.

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At 6:00am, after more than 12 hours of drinking,

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Michael decided to drive them home.

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He lost control of the car, killing his two best friends.

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Michael was jailed for two counts of causing death by dangerous driving,

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and sentenced to five years in prison.

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-Morning. How are you doing?

-Not too bad.

-Yeah?

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-OK. Do you want to go to the chapel?

-Yeah.

-Yeah? OK, we'll go down.

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Today is the anniversary of their deaths.

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-Did you get much sleep last night?

-No.

-No, I didn't think you would do.

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Two people have put things on Facebook,

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"Rest in peace, Sam and Matt."

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A few people have put on that I didn't get long enough.

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Every night I'll have a dream about it -

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losing the rear end of the car and the impact of the crash.

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Trying to push myself or trying to turn my head,

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look for my car, couldn't see my car or nothing...

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Just hearing Sam crying for his brother,

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and his brother just obviously saying that "I can't get to him".

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If I could choose out of having 25, 50 years in jail,

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and not having the thoughts in my head,

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I'd choose 50 years in jail, happily.

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"Death leaves a heartache no-one can heal.

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"Love leaves a memory no-one can steal.

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"Rest in peace, Sam and Matt."

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I'll never forgive myself for it. Never.

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Oh, I loved them like brothers.

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So...

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Still hear of 'em.

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OK, baby.

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If you do go into labour tonight, yeah, good luck, baby.

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It should have been me there, shouldn't it?

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Right, I love you, baby.

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Yeah, what were your first visit like?

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I met him when he was ten days old, man,

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in a family visit in a different jail.

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Father Christmas were there. It was Christmas time.

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-Were it? When's your... Your little boy's 5th of December?

-Yeah.

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She just kind of walked over to me with this baby, man - "Here y'are"!

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"Have him." Didn't know how to hold him or nothing.

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Max has been in prison since before his son was born.

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At 21, he's one of the oldest and longest-serving prisoners

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in Glen Parva.

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His son, Freddie, is now almost two.

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As soon as you have them, you're no longer number one.

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He is number one. He needs me to look after him.

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He won't make the same mistakes I made.

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That's for sure.

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I was only 17.

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I was with my mates and I started shouting at a bloke.

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That's when it all kicked off.

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I hit him to the floor and then...smashed his head to pieces.

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You couldn't see his face. I thought I'd killed him.

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I don't really want to talk about it, to be honest.

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I mean...it's horrible.

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I don't even know what it felt like at the time.

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I just remember walking off.

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Wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm.

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Five years. Five years in prison.

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Today, Max's girlfriend Becca and their son, Freddie, are making

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the two-hour journey to prison for their weekly visit.

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He's not really old enough to understand where

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he is actually going.

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He's been doing it since he was ten days old

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so he doesn't know any different.

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I think it's important for him to see his dad and for them

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to have a bond.

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It's just not a very nice place to go.

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20-year-old Becca met Max when she was 17.

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He's been in prison for almost two of the three years

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they've been together.

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The majority are all young girls coming to see their boyfriends

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with their little babies, toddlers.

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I don't agree with it, but, then again, it's not down to me.

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It's down to the mums that bring them in.

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They've got to see their dad or whatever relation.

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To me, a prison isn't somewhere a child should be brought in.

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They're irresponsible.

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I'm young myself, so I don't want to sound patronising,

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-but it's kids having kids.

-One-parent families, aren't they?

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They've got no contact with their dad.

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They see them once a week if they are lucky.

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You know, it's just sad.

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-Rebecca?

-Yeah.

-Freddie with you?

-Yeah.

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'It's a pain in the arse for her, travelling up here, getting searched.

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'Going through all this crap that she doesn't need to go through.

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'Every week for the last two years.'

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Because of me.

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-You all right?

-Yup.

-Has he gone to the kitchen?

-Huh?

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-Has he gone into the kitchen?

-No. He's in the little house.

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Just think, not this year, but the year after,

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-I'll spend your birthday with you.

-I know.

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You will have missed my 18th, 19th and 21st birthdays

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being in here.

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-You missed my 21st and my 20th.

-That's not my fault, is it?

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It's your fault.

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'We'd only been together for about seven or eight

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'months before I got pregnant.

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'Max got sent to prison two months before Freddie was born.'

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How did you feel?

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Worried and scared and shocked.

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Knowing that I was about to do it for two and a half years,

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all by myself.

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He looks more like me than you, doesn't he?

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Yeah.

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Do you look more like your daddy?

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I missed out going to uni like a normal 18-year-old.

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I am going to go next year,

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but I can't live in halls and have a student life like everyone else.

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I've had to put everything on hold for a few years.

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Come here.

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Love you, Freddie. Little squirt.

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-Bye-bye.

-I'll speak to you tomorrow.

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-I'll ring you tomorrow.

-Love you.

-Love you.

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Bye, bye, bye.

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I was an arsehole to do what I've done. I was 17 years old, a big man.

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I've only got myself to blame for that.

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It makes me angry when I think about it, to be honest.

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Being in here...

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I've fucked my life up, kind of thing.

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I could have gone to college. I could have done a lot of stuff.

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But I didn't. I've come to prison.

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How you are you doing, Michael?

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Do you want to give your family a call? Yeah?

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Michael's baby is due in less than a week.

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His girlfriend's family have sent an urgent message for him to call.

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Hello?

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You're joking!

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Is she all right?

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Right.

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Can you see the head? Do you want me to ring you back at two?

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All right, cheers. All right. Thank you, Nicola. Give her my love.

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All right. I'll see you later. Bye.

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She's in labour. They can see the head.

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The midwife reckons she'll be back in ten minutes.

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Cheers.

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What?

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INAUDIBLE DISTANT VOICE

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Huh? My missus is in labour now, bro.

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Yeah.

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Ten minutes later,

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officers allow Michael to call his girlfriend again.

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Is he here? Yeah? Is he all right?

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Are you all right?

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I'm sorry, you know.

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When is he getting weighed?

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So are you both all right?

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Good.

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I'm glad you're happy.

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At least there is... All right.

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I love you.

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When she first answered the phone, he was about five minutes old.

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I've got a little boy now. I could hear him crying in the back.

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My family's started now.

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So...

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I just wish I weren't here.

0:24:310:24:33

I should be there for her. I should be there for both of them.

0:24:360:24:39

-Shut my door, please.

-Has she had it yet?

-Yes, she has.

0:24:480:24:51

-What did she have?

-A little boy.

-Oh, well done.

-Nice one, cheers.

0:24:510:24:54

-What is it?

-Crumble.

0:24:540:24:56

-Crumble and custard.

-Oh, no!

0:24:560:24:58

8lbs 11. Massive. I just want to see him, innit?

0:24:580:25:03

There is only 22 people left. Two people are going without Bingos.

0:25:050:25:09

It's the famous chocolate bar. Everybody loves a Bingo.

0:25:090:25:12

-Young dad Ramone works on the wing servery.

-I've given too many out.

0:25:140:25:20

INAUDIBLE

0:25:200:25:23

Ramone's daughter is being looked after by her grandfather,

0:25:250:25:29

who has never brought her to visit.

0:25:290:25:30

When my baby mum was pregnant, I was committing crime.

0:25:320:25:35

When my daughter was born, I was committing crime.

0:25:350:25:38

I've had a criminal record since the age of 13.

0:25:380:25:40

I've been in jail 26 months. I've not got to see my daughter once.

0:25:400:25:45

I blame them. I blame the baby mum and I blame her dad as well.

0:25:450:25:49

But me, I blame myself really because, to the bigger picture,

0:25:510:25:56

it is me.

0:25:560:25:57

They didn't put me in jail. I put myself in jail.

0:25:570:26:00

I don't do nothing myself.

0:26:000:26:02

I don't put any food on the table, no clothes on her back.

0:26:020:26:06

Nothing like that. I'm 22 years old

0:26:060:26:09

and another man's providing for my daughter.

0:26:090:26:12

It's scummy, that's what it is. It's scummy.

0:26:120:26:16

-You've had three doughnuts.

-I've had one.

-I've had no doughnuts.

0:26:160:26:19

Some dads choose not to have their children visit.

0:26:210:26:24

Stephen hasn't seen his daughters for almost two years.

0:26:240:26:28

It weren't like that anyway. I was in good relationships.

0:26:280:26:31

I had a job and that.

0:26:310:26:33

Obviously, things can go tits-up in an instant.

0:26:340:26:37

And that's what happened both times.

0:26:370:26:39

-Two?

-Two girls.

-How old are they?

-Five and two.

-I bet you miss them.

0:26:390:26:43

Like mad.

0:26:430:26:46

When you get out, you got to make up for the time.

0:26:460:26:49

I've got a lot of time to make up.

0:26:490:26:51

-Do they come and visit?

-No. I don't want them visiting me.

0:26:510:26:57

Not nice for them or me.

0:26:570:26:59

-I phone a lot.

-Where do they think you are?

-Naughty holiday.

0:26:590:27:04

A naughty holiday? That's a different one.

0:27:040:27:08

I don't want her to know because she's at that age

0:27:080:27:10

when she'll go to school and tell everybody.

0:27:100:27:12

It works. She doesn't read anything into it.

0:27:120:27:14

She just says "You need to stop being naughty, Daddy."

0:27:140:27:16

-Is that what she says?

-Yeah.

0:27:160:27:18

"If you're not naughty, you don't have to go on naughty holiday."

0:27:180:27:21

Prisoners who stay in touch with their children are less

0:27:280:27:31

likely to reoffend.

0:27:310:27:33

To help maintain contact, there are special family

0:27:370:27:39

visits for prisoners like Max who have been well-behaved.

0:27:390:27:44

-BABY BURPS

-Oh, nice!

0:27:460:27:48

MAX LAUGHS

0:27:480:27:51

Unlike regular visits, Max can play freely with Freddie

0:27:510:27:55

and doesn't have to stay seated.

0:27:550:27:59

"He has knobbly knees and turned-out toes,

0:27:590:28:02

"and a poisonous wart at the end of his nose."

0:28:020:28:05

Prisoners can also keep in touch with their kids

0:28:070:28:10

by recording bedtime stories to be sent home.

0:28:100:28:14

"Silly old owl. Doesn't he know

0:28:140:28:16

"there's no such thing as a gruffalo?

0:28:160:28:19

"But who is this creature with the terrible claws

0:28:200:28:22

"and the terrible teeth in his terrible jaws?"

0:28:220:28:25

' "He has knobbly knees and turned-out toes

0:28:250:28:28

' "and a poisonous wart at the end of his nose.

0:28:280:28:31

' "His eyes are orange, his tongue is black

0:28:310:28:34

' "and he has purple prickles all over his back." '

0:28:340:28:37

Did your dad ever read you stories?

0:28:390:28:41

No. I don't know my dad.

0:28:410:28:43

What was good about your childhood?

0:28:460:28:49

I put all that behind me. I don't like thinking about it.

0:28:490:28:52

It's old news now, innit. I'm away from that now already.

0:28:520:28:56

Forgot about it. Don't want remember about it any more.

0:28:580:29:01

Don't feel like a man.

0:29:030:29:05

It's hard for me to feel sad.

0:29:060:29:08

-HE LAUGHS

-Yeah...

0:29:090:29:11

It's hard for me to feel something.

0:29:130:29:15

-Why?

-Because I've never been shown it or felt it myself. That's why.

0:29:160:29:20

Michael York is also estranged from his dad,

0:29:240:29:27

who was in prison when he was growing up.

0:29:270:29:30

'When he were in jail, he'd ring up on 24th August

0:29:300:29:33

'and say happy birthday and that, which is the day after my birthday.

0:29:330:29:37

'Didn't even know my birthday.'

0:29:370:29:39

I don't want to be nothing like my real dad.

0:29:390:29:41

Nothing like my biological father.

0:29:410:29:43

Nothing.

0:29:430:29:44

But being in here just makes me...

0:29:460:29:49

Just makes me feel more like him every day.

0:29:490:29:51

I've done some of the things that my dad had done.

0:29:530:29:57

I behave and act and think, probably, the way my dad does,

0:29:570:30:01

and I look...50% like my dad.

0:30:010:30:04

That's good, really, cos I don't want to be nothing like the twat.

0:30:060:30:09

What kind of dad do you want to be, though?

0:30:110:30:13

I don't know. I just want to be the best dad I can be.

0:30:150:30:19

Michael splits visits between his two sons from different mothers.

0:30:270:30:31

Today, he's with his youngest, Kai.

0:30:310:30:34

-'Do you remember the day that Kai was born?'

-'Yep.'

0:30:340:30:37

'Obviously I had a good feeling, yeah, but I was pissed off.

0:30:380:30:42

Sitting in jail, not getting to see it and that,

0:30:420:30:44

I jumped straight on the phone and I heard him in the background,

0:30:440:30:47

screaming.

0:30:470:30:48

Another baby boy.

0:30:510:30:53

-HE WHISPERS:

-Boy.

0:30:530:30:54

Dad of two.

0:30:560:30:57

Dad of two amazing little boys.

0:30:580:31:01

Just what I wanted.

0:31:030:31:04

'Living in jail, it's not the way forward, do you get me?

0:31:090:31:11

'I need to fix up now, and get a job.

0:31:110:31:14

'Missing out too much time with my kids' life, man.'

0:31:140:31:17

Even though I said that the last time, it didn't plan out that way.

0:31:200:31:24

But this time...

0:31:250:31:27

determined.

0:31:270:31:29

I'll do it this time, I will. I know I will...

0:31:290:31:32

Not coming back, man. Staying out there for my kids, I am.

0:31:340:31:38

That's sort of all I've got stuck in my head now...is just...

0:31:390:31:43

the family. Family is what matter.

0:31:430:31:46

So I'll be there for them, no matter what.

0:31:480:31:50

Even if I am behind a few walls.

0:31:510:31:54

I'll have my day when I get released

0:31:560:31:58

and I'll be able to do whatever... Whatever they want.

0:31:580:32:01

I've got... I'll have two years of making up to do, so...

0:32:010:32:04

Well, two and a half years of making up to do, so...

0:32:040:32:07

So a lot of presents coming... the kids' way.

0:32:080:32:12

SHOUTING

0:32:150:32:18

To help prepare them for life outside,

0:32:200:32:22

young offenders are encouraged to take part in work or education.

0:32:220:32:26

With seven months left to serve,

0:32:300:32:32

Max has already passed five education courses,

0:32:320:32:36

got seven training certificates and worked in ten different prison jobs.

0:32:360:32:40

-And prison number?

-A98-62.

0:32:460:32:49

He is now the only prisoner trusted to work outside the jail,

0:32:490:32:53

and has a job on a local golf course.

0:32:530:32:56

All right.

0:32:560:32:58

I've worked for it. If you fight the system you don't get this, do ya?

0:33:020:33:05

If you work with it, then...

0:33:050:33:07

..you get rewarded.

0:33:080:33:09

-Did you have a job on the outside, Max?

-Loads of different jobs.

0:33:120:33:15

Apprentice tree surgeon...

0:33:150:33:16

I've worked on the bins, worked in factories, worked as a chef.

0:33:160:33:19

-And what do you hope to do?

-Start my own business in gardening.

0:33:200:33:24

Landscape gardening, bit of tree surgeon...

0:33:240:33:27

..fingers crossed.

0:33:290:33:31

Max is released each morning at eight

0:33:310:33:33

and must be back behind bars by 5.15pm.

0:33:330:33:36

Running off and getting to be with my son, my missus, like.

0:33:360:33:40

That goes through my head every day. But if I did run away...

0:33:400:33:44

..I wouldn't have my family.

0:33:450:33:47

So family's at stake, really, innit?

0:33:480:33:50

It's the most important thing to anyone.

0:33:500:33:53

-Did you ever have a job when you were out on the outside, Michael?

-Nope.

0:33:550:33:58

Full-time criminal.

0:33:580:34:00

HE SIGHS

0:34:010:34:03

How come you never had a job, then, Michael?

0:34:030:34:05

Cos nobody would like to employ me.

0:34:050:34:07

I've done better what I've done in jail

0:34:100:34:12

than what I did on the outside,

0:34:120:34:14

so I started jamming with certain people...

0:34:140:34:17

..then just started smoking...

0:34:180:34:21

drinking...

0:34:210:34:22

..and then that's it. Life went down the drain for a few years.

0:34:240:34:28

And then I ended up in jail.

0:34:330:34:35

And then I end up in jail again, and that's the way that I am now.

0:34:350:34:39

Yeah...

0:34:410:34:42

That's the front page...

0:34:460:34:48

"Stabbed and left for dead."

0:34:500:34:52

"Man victim of teenage centre attack by teenage robbers.

0:34:520:34:56

"This was the horrific moment an innocent reveller

0:34:560:35:01

"was stabbed by two teenage thugs who tried to rob him

0:35:010:35:04

"in the heart of Birmingham city centre."

0:35:040:35:06

'Just turning about 16.'

0:35:100:35:12

Obviously now I look back and think that was fucked. Do you get me?

0:35:120:35:16

I'm not proud of what I done

0:35:160:35:17

but obviously I made a choice to do something

0:35:170:35:20

and, therefore, ended up here,

0:35:200:35:22

therefore I'm dealing with the situation. You get me?

0:35:220:35:25

Do you think you'll tell your kids one day what you did?

0:35:250:35:27

-Yeah, of course I will.

-What will you tell them?

0:35:270:35:30

Tell them, Daddy went jail, innit?

0:35:300:35:33

Daddy was a fucking little crackhead.

0:35:330:35:35

Fucking about on the street like a dumb little twat.

0:35:350:35:39

Max has applied to spend a weekend at home with Becca and Freddie.

0:35:450:35:50

Home leave can help prisoners readjust to family life.

0:35:500:35:53

But it hasn't been granted at Glen Parva for more than five years.

0:35:530:35:57

Max must argue his case in front of a governor.

0:35:590:36:02

I want to build that bond with my son

0:36:020:36:04

because I've been in prison since he was born, before he was born,

0:36:040:36:08

so I've never actually been able to tuck him into bed,

0:36:080:36:11

read him a story or actually spend a full day with him, so...

0:36:110:36:14

-OK.

-Just building a better bond with my son, really.

0:36:140:36:18

-Brief...offence details.

-Mm-hm.

0:36:180:36:21

Max was in the company of six other males of a similar age.

0:36:210:36:25

Er, attacked a victim while journeying home.

0:36:250:36:28

Himself and the associate had all been drinking...

0:36:280:36:31

..and it just appears that the whole lot of them

0:36:320:36:34

have ganged up on this one gentleman.

0:36:340:36:37

It makes it sound a lot worse on there, to be honest. But, erm...

0:36:370:36:42

Like, come up in my face and at this point, my mate hit him.

0:36:430:36:46

All three of us were scuffling and...

0:36:460:36:49

it just got out of hand, to be honest.

0:36:490:36:52

-Max, you got five years...

-Yeah.

-..for GBH with intent.

0:36:520:36:57

-So let's not try and minimise that.

-Yeah.

-OK?

0:36:570:37:00

And on that note,

0:37:000:37:01

I'm going to ask that you disappear for a little while

0:37:010:37:03

cos we're going to talk about you.

0:37:030:37:05

-OK, miss, I'll go.

-OK.

-Shall I put him in the holding?

-Yeah.

0:37:050:37:08

-Thank you very much.

-All right.

0:37:090:37:11

It's a period of home leave. Does he actually need it?

0:37:180:37:21

He's only been in jail for two years.

0:37:210:37:23

I do appreciate that he is a young man

0:37:230:37:26

and two years is an awful long time.

0:37:260:37:28

I understand that but that wouldn't be, for me, a reason

0:37:280:37:31

to him let go home for the weekend.

0:37:310:37:32

And he will be getting released in a handful of months

0:37:320:37:35

and will, very, very quickly be Dad.

0:37:350:37:38

Everything so far has all been good for Max.

0:37:380:37:41

You know, he's been in charge of his own destiny,

0:37:410:37:43

he's had excellent support from his offender manager

0:37:430:37:46

and from his unit staff.

0:37:460:37:48

Doesn't seem to have been faced with many stressful situations.

0:37:480:37:51

How would he react in that?

0:37:510:37:53

I have to be 100% sure that if there was an abscond,

0:37:530:37:57

that the risk to the public is nil.

0:37:570:38:00

I just want to tuck my son into bed, read him a story

0:38:080:38:11

and just watch him fall asleep.

0:38:110:38:13

I've wanted to do that since he was born, like.

0:38:130:38:15

Well, I got it.

0:38:210:38:22

Max's home leave has been approved.

0:38:220:38:25

With his continued record of good behaviour,

0:38:250:38:27

the governor has ruled that he can be trusted.

0:38:270:38:29

-Not this weekend.

-'Yeah.'

0:38:290:38:31

-Next weekend.

-'So, it's for definite?'

-Yeah.

0:38:310:38:35

-'That's good then.'

-Yeah.

-'Yeah.'

0:38:350:38:39

-Are you happy?

-'Yeah.'

0:38:390:38:41

You'll have to get the shopping in then, won't you?

0:38:410:38:43

This will be the first time Max has spent more than just a few hours

0:38:450:38:49

with Becca and Freddie in two years.

0:38:490:38:52

I am looking forward to it but I'm a bit nervous

0:38:520:38:55

-cos I don't know how it's going to be.

-He hasn't been home in ages.

0:38:550:38:59

No, he's not been home for two years so, yeah. It's going to be weird.

0:38:590:39:04

Well, I feel like because he has been away for so long,

0:39:050:39:08

he has got a lot of making up to do so he will be doing,

0:39:080:39:11

-like, the cooking and stuff and cleaning and...

-Helping out a lot.

0:39:110:39:16

-Taking Freddie out.

-And you can relax.

-Yeah.

0:39:160:39:21

A bit nervous, to be honest.

0:39:210:39:23

Nervous and happy because I get to see my son and my missus but

0:39:240:39:29

nervous that they might not be ready for me to come home, kind of thing.

0:39:290:39:33

Been without me for two years and it'll be a big shock to them,

0:39:330:39:35

won't it, having me back?

0:39:350:39:37

She thinks of me as being that 19-year-old that will punch

0:39:390:39:42

anyone's head in for no reason, kind of thing.

0:39:420:39:45

Whereas now I think about things a bit more. Grown up and that.

0:39:450:39:51

Do you think you have grown apart?

0:39:520:39:55

Yeah.

0:39:550:39:56

But I think we have both invested too much in each other to

0:39:580:40:02

just give it up though.

0:40:020:40:04

How is it with you and Josie at the moment?

0:40:040:40:08

-Is it OK?

-I don't know, it's a bit...

-It's what? A bit messed up?

0:40:080:40:13

-Same as usual.

-Same as usual. OK. I won't ask any more questions then.

0:40:130:40:17

I kind of know the answer to that.

0:40:170:40:18

Michael Rowley is due to be released in one week's time.

0:40:180:40:22

He has been called for a meeting

0:40:220:40:23

to help prepare him for life on the outside.

0:40:230:40:26

-So, are you in a relationship with anybody?

-No.

0:40:260:40:29

-Not in a relationship.

-No.

0:40:290:40:31

What are your plans in relation to, you know,

0:40:330:40:36

-maintaining your relationships and...

-Basically, just...

0:40:360:40:38

..keeping everybody happy.

0:40:380:40:40

When I get out of here, what I'm basing on, yeah,

0:40:400:40:42

is just getting myself straight, yeah,

0:40:420:40:45

and just, basically, just having time with my kids and that, really.

0:40:450:40:48

That's what I plan on doing and that.

0:40:480:40:50

To just try and get on the straight and narrow, hold my head down.

0:40:500:40:53

Obviously, trying to get into work, yeah, so I can keep my head straight

0:40:530:40:56

and, obviously, it's just all about my kids

0:40:560:40:58

when I get out and nothing else, man.

0:40:580:41:00

I hope they see each other, like, a lot.

0:41:060:41:08

I don't know. That all depends on, like, Michael, really,

0:41:090:41:13

and, like, the door is open for him to see his Rhys.

0:41:130:41:16

He has got to want to do it but I believe that he will anyway.

0:41:170:41:20

He ain't really had a chance to be a father while he is in jail

0:41:220:41:25

and I know that it's, like, he don't like the fact that he has not

0:41:250:41:29

had that chance with Rhys

0:41:290:41:33

so I think he'll be a good father.

0:41:330:41:36

'Ideally, if I could choose,

0:41:380:41:40

'we would be a family cos any mum would want that for their child.'

0:41:400:41:44

What is your current situation with your relationship with him?

0:41:450:41:49

Different. I don't... I can't think of a word.

0:41:530:41:57

It's like there is something there but it's just not.

0:41:570:42:01

Like, cooling off, kind of thing.

0:42:010:42:05

Or what you would class as, like, a break.

0:42:060:42:09

-My little man's going nursery soon and that.

-First year at school.

0:42:130:42:17

You are a proper angel as well when you are younger you are proper

0:42:200:42:22

-good and when you start growing up you just...

-Fade away.

0:42:220:42:26

Fade away like I did.

0:42:260:42:30

I wish I could go back to school. School years was good.

0:42:300:42:32

-They were the days.

-I wish I could go back.

0:42:320:42:35

They always say that, you know. "When you leave school,

0:42:350:42:38

"you are all going to be wishing that you want to go back."

0:42:380:42:40

That's what I say to my little brother.

0:42:400:42:42

Thinking, "No, you're mad. I'm not going back to school."

0:42:420:42:44

Now when you grow up and think, "I got no qualifications."

0:42:440:42:47

-It would have been mad funny.

-Going to get a shit job.

0:42:470:42:49

It would have been sick. You could have done football or something.

0:42:490:42:54

If I would have stuck at school, I could have been on 2012 Olympics.

0:42:540:42:58

I'm telling you one thing, I would not never be here.

0:42:580:43:02

I didn't even get no exams, do no GCSEs. That's how bad that is.

0:43:020:43:06

Standard. I ain't got no GCSEs, really, except for that one.

0:43:070:43:11

It's not even a proper GCSE, really, to be honest with you.

0:43:110:43:14

-I done it in jail. Can't class it as a GCSE.

-What is it?

0:43:150:43:21

I done Olympic lifting, fitness and balanced diets and all that.

0:43:210:43:25

I got A-star in that.

0:43:270:43:28

What do you hope Rhys is like?

0:43:300:43:31

-Do you want his teenage years to be different to yours?

-Of course.

0:43:310:43:35

No messing about.

0:43:360:43:38

Obviously, he is going to do what he's going to do, you get me?

0:43:380:43:40

I can't, literally, stop him, yeah,

0:43:400:43:42

but obviously I'm going to try my best, like, to show him the right

0:43:420:43:45

way, like, get me, show him things that he should be doing and that.

0:43:450:43:49

No committing crime, no doing drugs.

0:43:500:43:53

Obviously, alcohol is a minor but, obviously, anything else, no.

0:43:550:44:00

Max is about to leave the prison for his weekend release.

0:44:060:44:09

You are going to be a model prisoner, right, so if you do anything

0:44:130:44:18

-wrong it will come bad back on you and on the establishment.

-Yeah.

0:44:180:44:23

You're not supposed to be in possession of a mobile phone.

0:44:230:44:26

-But I am ringing you off a landline.

-Yeah. And no driving.

0:44:260:44:30

Certainly no offending and, again, we have got the, you know,

0:44:300:44:34

web pages, Facebook, social networking, Twitter,

0:44:340:44:37

anything like that - you are not allowed any of that. All right?

0:44:370:44:40

You do know that this is an absolute...

0:44:400:44:43

I have never done this before at Glen Parva, OK?

0:44:430:44:46

-You know this is an absolute privilege for you?

-Yeah.

0:44:460:44:49

-So, please, don't mess it up...

-I won't.

0:44:490:44:52

..and use it for the purpose that you have applied.

0:44:520:44:56

-Yeah.

-Well done for getting it.

-Thank you very much.

-Right,

0:44:560:44:59

-you need to go back in this way cos you need to get searched.

-Cheers.

0:44:590:45:02

Freddie, look.

0:45:230:45:24

Let him do it himself or he's going to rub it all over his face.

0:45:260:45:28

Look, he is trying to hide from you.

0:45:280:45:30

It's going everywhere now.

0:45:300:45:32

He is playing hide and seek with his dinner.

0:45:350:45:38

Don't wipe his face. He'll have a fit. He doesn't like it.

0:45:410:45:44

We'll leave that to the end, shall we?

0:45:480:45:51

He has changed a nappy and he has played with him a little bit

0:45:510:45:55

but that's about it.

0:45:550:45:56

What is your assessment?

0:45:560:45:59

Yeah, he's getting there.

0:45:590:46:00

I've got a bit more work to do yet though.

0:46:020:46:05

And you can give him the yoghurt so I can go run a bath.

0:46:050:46:07

Don't get him out of the highchair until I come back down.

0:46:070:46:11

Where's the Petit Filous?

0:46:130:46:15

Can you watch he doesn't choke as well?

0:46:150:46:16

-Becca.

-What? Behind you.

-Where's the spoons?

-Where the spoons are.

0:46:160:46:21

What do you mean where the spoons are? I haven't been here.

0:46:210:46:25

Get one from the washing up bit, the drying bit.

0:46:280:46:32

-Pour this over his head?

-No, he will freak out. He doesn't like it.

0:46:440:46:47

He is scared of it so don't.

0:46:470:46:49

# Da-dum... #

0:46:490:46:50

Don't scare him.

0:46:500:46:52

# Da-dum. #

0:46:520:46:53

Are you going up high?

0:47:010:47:03

I love you. Take care.

0:47:300:47:34

-See you soon.

-Yeah, give him this one. I love you.

-I love you. Bye.

0:47:340:47:38

No good coming back though, is it?

0:47:400:47:42

Go and get your kit off.

0:47:500:47:51

Yeah, I need clothes off. You all right, mate?

0:47:510:47:53

Brace yourself.

0:47:560:47:57

I gave her a cuddle and that outside the prison.

0:48:000:48:03

Had a little chat with her and that.

0:48:030:48:05

But then when the gate opened, I walked in and the gate shut

0:48:060:48:11

and I seen on CCTV and she's driving away, that's when it fucking hit me.

0:48:110:48:15

I just thought, "Fuck."

0:48:150:48:16

It was horrible.

0:48:170:48:19

It was worse than getting sent down in the first place, to be honest.

0:48:190:48:23

I just miss them. I miss them already.

0:48:230:48:25

As soon as that gate closed, that's it, they're cut off from me.

0:48:250:48:29

You know, it's just horrible.

0:48:310:48:33

She is struggling for my mistakes, kind of thing.

0:48:340:48:37

She hasn't done anything bad but she is being punished as well.

0:48:370:48:41

So...it's harder on her than it is on me.

0:48:420:48:46

I suppose it's just reaffirmed that it's what we want

0:48:470:48:52

and we need to just wait a few more months and...

0:48:520:48:55

..then we can start properly.

0:48:590:49:00

The weekend was a bit of a test run to see what is to come.

0:49:020:49:05

-And does it bode well?

-Yeah.

0:49:080:49:10

Today Michael Rowley is being released on licence

0:49:230:49:26

after serving 15 months in prison.

0:49:260:49:28

He must live with his mum and obey a strict 9pm curfew.

0:49:280:49:32

I ain't even trying to come back to jail.

0:49:360:49:38

That is definitely not the case.

0:49:380:49:40

Who knows, you get me? Who knows?

0:49:420:49:44

I don't even know myself. You get me? I don't know myself.

0:49:440:49:48

Me saying it and doing it is another thing.

0:49:480:49:51

In a bit, Connor. I'll meet you outside.

0:49:510:49:55

In a bit, boss. In a bit, Miss Hawley, Mr Hayes.

0:50:000:50:03

All right, son, see you later.

0:50:030:50:04

Listen, about half ten, right?

0:50:040:50:06

In a bit.

0:50:080:50:09

'One, obviously, the main thing is don't get caught,

0:50:090:50:12

'no matter what you do. Or you just stop doing it, you get me?'

0:50:120:50:15

'I am going to try and stop. I know I can.'

0:50:180:50:22

Michael has arranged for the mother of his youngest son, Kai,

0:50:310:50:35

to collect him from prison.

0:50:350:50:37

His other son, Rhys, and Josie are waiting at Michael's mum's

0:50:380:50:42

house, where he has agreed to meet them before 3pm.

0:50:420:50:45

Where's Daddy, Rhys? Where's Daddy?

0:50:500:50:53

Gone to Mars.

0:50:530:50:56

Is Daddy a pain?

0:50:560:50:57

Hmm?

0:50:580:51:00

Rhys. Shut the door. See you later.

0:51:000:51:02

Three hours later, Michael still hasn't turned up or called.

0:51:020:51:06

Josie takes Rhys home.

0:51:070:51:09

Finally, he arrives at his mum's house just before his 9pm curfew.

0:51:100:51:15

It's not easy, man.

0:51:150:51:17

You've just got to remember, you've got two kids.

0:51:200:51:22

You've got time that's got to be shared between both of them.

0:51:220:51:24

I know that. I'm going to see Rhys tomorrow.

0:51:240:51:27

They come first with everything else.

0:51:300:51:33

It's not you, your boys or anybody else.

0:51:330:51:35

It's your probation and your kids.

0:51:350:51:37

I just want a couple of days to hurry up and go past, man,

0:51:370:51:40

so I stop feeling weird and that.

0:51:400:51:42

Head's spinning and that and it's not even from the drink.

0:51:420:51:46

When are you planning on speaking to Josie?

0:51:460:51:48

I'll phone her in a bit, man.

0:51:480:51:51

I'm not even in the mood at the moment.

0:51:510:51:53

I just want to chill out, like. Time is going like this.

0:51:530:51:57

Well, it will do, Michael. It's not like inside now.

0:51:570:52:00

You have got all day but time does go quick when you have got

0:52:000:52:02

-so many things to do.

-You've not even got all day when

0:52:020:52:05

everything is hitting you at 100 miles an hour.

0:52:050:52:08

I kind of had a feeling in the back of my head that he wouldn't show

0:52:080:52:11

and he didn't so it proved me right

0:52:110:52:14

when really he should have proved me wrong.

0:52:140:52:18

But I would have thought, at least, Rhys would have been his,

0:52:180:52:21

like, first priority as well as Kai, but obviously no.

0:52:210:52:26

He has got other things he feels he needs to do before seeing Rhys

0:52:260:52:31

and he is all like, "Dada? Dada?"

0:52:310:52:33

And I'm like, "Yeah, we are going to see Daddy now."

0:52:330:52:36

And he is like, "Hmm." The little actions he does.

0:52:360:52:39

And, obviously, he hasn't seen his Dada so...

0:52:400:52:43

Michael did come to visit Rhys the following day.

0:52:530:52:56

Three months on, he continues to see his son but on his own terms.

0:52:560:53:01

And how are you managing to divide your time, Michael,

0:53:010:53:04

between your two kids?

0:53:040:53:05

It's hard still.

0:53:080:53:09

Have there been times when you're supposed to come to see Rhys

0:53:100:53:13

-that you haven't managed to make it?

-Mm-hm.

0:53:130:53:16

Obviously, it's just fucked, isn't it?

0:53:160:53:19

Obviously, it's my fault, isn't it?

0:53:190:53:22

Did you ever have the experience of your dad not turning up to see you?

0:53:220:53:26

Mm-hm. You really expect your dad to come and he don't come

0:53:260:53:29

and, obviously, you get pissed off, innit?

0:53:290:53:32

-But what do you plan to do from here on in?

-Try and make it better.

0:53:350:53:39

He needs to figure himself out cos I truly don't believe that he

0:53:470:53:49

knows who he is or what he wants and what he wants out of life.

0:53:490:53:53

And he has got two kids and he's like, "What do I do?"

0:53:530:53:58

I don't want anyone to walk all over me.

0:54:000:54:03

Like, it's still upsetting but you just don't think about it as much

0:54:030:54:06

cos I'm not living in it any more.

0:54:060:54:08

That's not my life any more.

0:54:080:54:10

'Like, this is my life. Me being happy - that's all that matters.'

0:54:100:54:14

I'm doing me.

0:54:160:54:18

-Thank you.

-All right, mate.

0:54:200:54:22

After two years in jail, Max is being transferred to an open prison

0:54:230:54:27

where he will serve the last five months of his sentence.

0:54:270:54:32

'It feels like the next step in the chain, really, doesn't it?

0:54:320:54:35

'Being at home with my missus and my son.

0:54:350:54:37

'Closer in distance and closer as in, like, being free.'

0:54:370:54:41

In a year we'll both be spending our first Christmas together

0:54:460:54:50

and I will be at uni and Freddie will be in nursery

0:54:500:54:55

and hopefully Max will be working

0:54:550:54:57

and we'll just be like a normal family.

0:54:570:55:01

Michael York still has 20 months of his sentence left to serve.

0:55:050:55:10

He and his girlfriend broke up

0:55:100:55:12

shortly after the birth of their child.

0:55:120:55:15

I seen my son once when he were two days old.

0:55:150:55:18

She's not put my name on the birth certificate.

0:55:190:55:22

It's just another thing so I've got no rights to him.

0:55:220:55:26

Obviously, all I can do now is just try my hardest

0:55:290:55:32

and do whatever I can for him.

0:55:320:55:34

He is always in my heart, always in my mind so...

0:55:340:55:36

..nothing will ever take that away.

0:55:380:55:40

Nothing, no matter what he does in life...

0:55:400:55:43

..he will still be my little boy.

0:55:440:55:47

Nothing is going to stop me having a relationship with my son.

0:55:470:55:49

Not going to happen. My son is my son, so...

0:55:490:55:53

..that's how it's going to be.

0:55:550:55:58

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