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This morning. The sheep rustlers who carried out a sickening attack

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on a flock above the moors in Hello and welcome to Thursday's

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Crimewatch Roadshow. We are live and we have been on the air for

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almost four week, we start with great new, yesterday, we featured

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the case of a burglary at a house in Rotherham, yet again as a direct

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result of one of your calls two men have been arrested. They were

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interviewed overnight and have been charged. Keep watching because your

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calls are making a difference. Coming up today. On the hunt for

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the quick handed conman who cheated a Post Office cashier. Towed away,

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the thieves behind the hedge making off with a brand-new caravan, do

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you recognise this car? And the police puppies taken in by foster

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families until they are ready for the front line. The roadshow team

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are nearing the end of their tour round the country, they are still

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in South Yorkshire, in charge, is Dave Guest and you really are top

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dog today, aren't you? Yes, that is right. We have come to the police

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dog training centre, in Sheffield, and we have a new member of the

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team today. Meet ticker, now, Ticker is a very useful member of

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the team because he comes with his own camera on his head. Find out

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what he does with that later. Also once again I am joined by Nicola

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Rees of Look North. You have a new chum as well. Yes, this is gorgeous

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Georgia, she is a hand.. She is born and bread here, a mini police

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dog in training. This is one of the few centres that trains them from

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start to end, and we will hear more about that later. How cute! Let us

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get straight down to business and this is an unusual stories an

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attack on dozens of sheep above the moors over in Sheffield. Sheep

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rustling sound like something from a bygone rear but it is happening

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in modern Britain, in this case with disturbing consequences. A

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peaceful night on the moors above Sheffield was about to be shattered.

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By the time this gang finished its work in the field, 47 sheep were

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dead. Their bodys taken off to be butcher and sold off for meat.

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so much to produce and time and money, you know, it is a great loss.

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It is a great loss for anybody. Killed them sheep, they have killed

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them in a painful way. Sheep are allowed to roam freely on the moors

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in Yorkshire, they preserve the natural beauty of the landscape by

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feeding on grass and bracken. They are not afraid of hue moorns car,

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that freedom and friendliness makes them vulnerable to poemps. Farmer

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David Robinson tends his flock near long Shaw in the Peak District. The

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sheep from John Elliott's farm next door graze on the same common land.

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There will be 1500 to 2,000 sheep between us, so you know, you don't

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notice until you count up. It is early autumn on the peaks above

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Sheffield. The nights are getting longer giving the thieves enough

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time to carry out their crimes. Their target, David and John's

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sheep, roaming on the moor. With each carcass worth more than one

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hundred pounds, they have their yiens tidy profit. The men are

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about to slaughter the flock, to sell the meat on the black market.

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The shooters used a slerns, and adds the moors deserted at night,

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the crime went unnoticed. The farmers didn't even realise

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anything was wrong, until the time came to gather the flock. When we

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gathered in November, we knew when we were sorting the sheep out we

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were so many short. But we didn't just twig straight away, but we

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knew we were so many missing. first you think they are missing,

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when your neighbour has some miss, and then he finds some tho has been

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shot, some dead and alsome alive. You put two and two together and

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you know, realise what's happened. But the killers hadn't finished the

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job. Three sheep had been shot but had managed to escape. David

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discovered to his hor row three had terrible injuries. What happened?

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What did you do? I took, I took the the two when we gathered we got out,

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and we put them down. Humanly. To put them out of their suffering.

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How do you feel about what has happened? It is a cruel way to die,

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to be shot. When usually they would go to, when they finally go to

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slaughter, they go to a proper slaughterhouse and be killed

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properly. So really, scenic beauty spot this, but we are walking

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towards the scene of a crime here, aren't we? It is sickening, really,

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the fact an animal can be allowed to suffer in that way, been left

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out for so long, the animals are left with facial injuries, the jaw

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is hanging off for numbers of weeks and they are left out in the

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elements. What the killers hadn't taken into account was the meat

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wasn't ready to be eaten. The sheep had routine inject shuns and were

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due have three months of detox to allow the drugs to leave their

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systems. They have been injected for worms, and they have been

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injected for scab, and they have a period on them for 104 days after

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that. Mine were injected with a chemical, so if that gets into the

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food chain somebody will be poorly somewhere. It will be butchered

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without any cleaning facilities, and given straight to the public,

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and loifb the fact that the sheep have been treated with chemicals

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within a certain period ant it shouldn't enter the food chain that

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the point. The loss of their breeding stock has far-reaching

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implications for the running of both farms. Financial implications

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are, we will be some lambs short, lambs short next year, until we

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have bred the sheep back into the flock again. It is not just the

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financial loss that hurts them, it is their way of life that has been

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attacked. We didn't think anything like that would happen. But it has.

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It is a terrible thing, isn't it. You know, we feed us animals before

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ourself, so we think a lot about them. I know we run it as a

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business but we think a lot about us animals. We have bad lambing

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times and we are out in all wetter, bringing the lambs in the house and

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putting them in front of the fire to keep them warm and alive and

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someone shoots them and takes them away, how would you feel? Well, a

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really sad tale there, you saw PC Matt Duffy, she the wildlife

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officer investigating the crimes. We talked about the effects on the

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farmer and how inhumanely the animals were killed, but more

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importantly is some dangerous chemicals could have got into the

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food chain here. It was only recently that the farmer had

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injected them with the chemical. If they are eaten they will cause

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sickness. Where might this meat have ended up? More than likely

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ended up in the backs of pubs, restaurants and just basically sold

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to friends and family. Is this something you are seeing more of?

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Is it an increasing problem? It s last year 60,000 were taken across

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the UK and with the price of meat going up it will get worse.

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need the catch them and they might still be operating, even though

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this happened last year you are keep to hear from people at the

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moment. Why is that? Anyone who has information about these people, kit

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anybody who has access to a van and firearm. We think they will be

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going out and doing it and putting the public at risk. You know what

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to do. The numbers are on the screen, in the meantime back to you

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Rav. Time for today's wanted faces, and first up this fellow. Westley

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Linnen although he goes by the names of Allan Collins, Westley

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Fisher and Billy King. He is wanted by six police forces for

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questioning in connection with 17 different burglaries. He has strong

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connections to East London and Canvey Island in Essex, he has one

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tattoo with the name bill loin his left forearm and another of a

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bulldog on the top of his right arm. Next is Daniel Gheorghe Plesca, she

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wanted for questioning by detectives in connection with

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affray earlier after an incident outside a bar in Leicester in

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November town 10. He has a tattoo of the word "Box". He is known to

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work in car washes and has connections to the Leicester Rugby,

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Watford and Birmingham areas. Next look at this man, Darren Cowland.

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He also goes by the name Darren Tear. He is wanted by Devon and

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Cornwall Police. He has contacted in the Slough and Kent areas and it

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is believed he may be in Blackpool. He has a receding hairline and

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speaks with a London accent. And last one for today is 42-year-old

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Laimonis Kleins, he is wanted for questioning by officers in

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Merseyside, in connection with burglary offence, he is wanted on a

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European arrest warrant issued by the Latvian authority, he has

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connections to the Lancashire and Merseyside areas. So, if you know

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where any of our wanted faces r please get in touch. The numbers

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are on the screen. Or you can email us. Now, let us go back to Dave.

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Thanks, we have all heard of blood hound and here at the Sheffield

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centre they train a certain number of dogs to sniff out traces of

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blood. They can find even the tiniest speck that is not advice to

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believe the naked eye. Richard is one of the trainers here. At the

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moment on the floor we have something that resembles the

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contents of my washing machine, what is this about? We have items

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of clothing which they are going to screen, the dog will run over them

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and one has got human blood on and hopefully the dog will indicate it.

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This is not what you would do in a real life case. This is purely for

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a training exercise and for the cameras. Step to one side. Can we

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bring in the dogs. -- in the dog. Perhaps you could explain what is

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going to happen. Simon is going to set him up. Buster is going to work

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along the clothing and hopefully indicate with a bark. So he will

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bark when he has found it. That is the positive indication. OK. Let us

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look down here. See what he has got. Using the gloves. You open this,

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and on the label there. The blood son there is a bloodstain there.

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What is the advantage of using dogs for this kind of work? It saves a

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lot of money. If nothing is evident, on the clothing, you would have, it

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would be guesswork to which items were sent off. The dog will come

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along and give forensic science a better chance of identifying where

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blood is. What success stories have you had? Simone and Buster and one

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of the others went down to Norfolk, crime scene had been through a

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murder scene or what they believed was a murder scene, cleared it, the

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dogs went in and indicated on blood that was on a carpet. He found

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something that the humans didn't. For the training exercise you have

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to use real blood, where did it come from? Donation, officers,

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occupational health help us out and we are tight with health and safety.

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The fact is that the training they do here is so unique these dogs are

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in demand all round the country. And although Buster is celebrating

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his latest victory he has to go off to a live investigation elsewhere

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so goodbye to Buster and hello to you Rav. Now, still to come on the

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roadshow this morning P The foster families looking after the police

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dogs of the future. Sand this policing on the cheap? Increasing

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the role of Police Community Support Officers. Plenty to come,

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now it is time for seat and all these clips are from last summer's

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riots. These people still haven't been caught, and police really want

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your help. Now, the the riots last August and police need to identify

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people. This man had quite a night in the Greenwich area of London.

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Here he is only doing under And the same night, he goes into a

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At Argos he hangs about with some loot. He wears stolen sunglasses,

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that he sports with the label still on. Going anywhere nice? And the

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same guy was picked up later in superdrug, dodging through the

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broken door, and helping himself. Quite a night but with your help we

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can make the morning after. Riots again. This time Tower Hamlets.

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First, this guy smashes at a police car window with a weapon. This

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bureau dechange had its window kicked in. A Police Community

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Support Officer is hit over the head by this man and has to take

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The police would like to formally introduce themselves to these three.

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If you recognise anything or anyone in these clips, you know what to do.

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The numbers are on the screen. Lots of people dream of owning a

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caravan. What with it the freedom of the open road, and of course

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cheap holidays. But for one family, that dream turned into a financial

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nightmare when their new caravan was stolen. This CCTV footage shows

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a caravan park on 16th June, and a car is driven into the site. At

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caravan is pulled out from its storage place. The caravan is

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hitched up and ready to go. The car is driven out of the storage area

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and disappears down a side road. The next time we see it, it his

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being driven away with the caravan. The caravan belonged to Donald

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Sanderson. It was heartbreaking for you because you saved a long time

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for this. The that's right. It has affected my wife because she is

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disabled, and this has left us in financial difficulties, because the

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insurance doesn't cover the cost of the caravan, and I have to find

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�4,000. There is no way will be able to afford another one.

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must have been shocked. We are absolutely gutted. There is nothing

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we can do about it, just hope that someone sees it and brings it back.

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He had made plans to have happy times in a caravan. That's right.

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We had just retired. There is another instalment to this story. I

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am joined by Stephen Lister investigating the case. This car,

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what do we know about it? It is a grainy sound, stolen in a burglary

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in Liverpool. -- Nissan. We don't know where it was for two weeks

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between May 31st and 14th June. On 14th June it didn't drive off at a

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petrol station. So it was used to steal petrol? In it was. We have

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some CCTV images from that incident. Yes, quite good images of the

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people who we are sure the same people involved and the theft of

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the caravan. And the car has turned up about a week ago. We are still

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awaiting the results of the forensic examination. You can

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always call us here on the number on the screen, or if you want to

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remain anonymous, call Crimewatch - Staying with the animal theme, we

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have some creatures here in the studio. These creatures will steal

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all sorts -- people will still all sorts if they think it will turn

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into a quick buck. John here investigates pet theft. Why are

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these guys here? Thank you for having me here to do the appeal on

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behalf of a family living in Banstead in Surrey. They recently

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had their two little Herman tortoises stolen. We are here today

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to put the appeal out to try to track them down. It is not the

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value, it is the welfare of these animals. Whoever stole them would

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not know how to look after them or what they need to feed them on.

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have three times of tortoises here. Which one is the Herman? This one

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here. We can see on the screen now of the ones that were stolen. One

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has a little red mark on, and the owner put that on there to tell the

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difference between the two. You can show us hear how distinctive each

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animal is. The great thing about tortoises is they are all totally

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different with the features of the shell and the underside. Show us

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the underside now. You can see markings on here. Can we zoom in on

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that? The pigmentation and frustration markings is unique to

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this individual tortoise. The underside is absolutely unique to

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this actual animal. We recommend that all tortoise keepers are

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regularly photograph the underside, critically focus, so that we have

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all those marks, and that really is the passport for this tortoise. We

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call it the tortoise fingerprint. So you would encourage people to

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take pictures? And there are other ways. I want to talk about what you

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have here. This wouldn't just apply to tortoises, but all animals.

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animals, pets in particular, must be positively identifiable if they

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are ever lost or stolen. The first thing the police were last is, what

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do they look like? Will rely so much these days on the microchipped

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system. We have now got on the market the new Mini microchip, and

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you can see from the size that it is much smaller. We are talking a

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few pounds, but it is worth it? You would advise all pets to be

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microchipped indeed. We had better move on, because we have had a

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little bit of an accident here! If you know the whereabouts of those

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tortoises we showed you, please let us know.

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This is a Georgia. We met her earlier. She is only 13 weeks old,

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and she was born here at the training centre, as were her

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brother and sister behind us. This is one of the very few centres that

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train and breed dogs specifically for the police force. One their

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first-born, they can't go through full-time training, they go out to

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foster families for their first year. We spent some time with

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Georgia and her foster family. Good girl. This is Georgie. We have

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had an about five weeks now, and we will have to give her back probably

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at when she is about a year old so she can start her training to

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become a police dog. We have had one before her, and we gave him

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back about two months before we got Georgie, and it was really hard,

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but you know you are getting another puppy, which is most of the

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fun for me, and he couldn't have been anything else than a police

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dog, he was born for it. He would have been bored being a pet. The

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police pay for all her worming, fleas, vet bills, food, anything

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you need they provide you with. We are asked to just do simple things

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with them, get them to walk on the lead, sit, he'll, get them to speak

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on command, bark when you ask them to. A little bit of tracking - we

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played hide and seek in the woods with the dogs, and it is great for

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when they have to go and find I love having the companionship of

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the dock, and being able to go out for walks and teach her things. I

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love to see her grow up, and I love to teacher and see her learn. She

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Now, when Georgie is a big girl, she will be able to do what these

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guys are doing behind. They have all graduated from the training

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centre. It is a big commitment, isn't it? It is really hard work,

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but great fun at the same time. Have you ever had one fail? No. I

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had one, and he passed. It must be heartbreaking when you have to give

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them back. Yes, but you know they are going to go on to do good

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things, and then you get another one. Georgi's really keen to have a

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go, but it is not quite time yet. Harry, how much training do these

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dogs have to have before the going to the field? We do a puppy Sunday

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on the first Sunday of every month, and all puppies and the volunteers

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are together. Puppies who have just graduated to a 12 week course.

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is the benefit of breeding and training the main house? The beauty

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is that these dogs or reducing the Times on the courses, so we just

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have one handler who has completed a course in seven weeks. End you do

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rely heavily on Foster has to take the dogs in the first place? Yes,

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the Foster has deserve medals. They do all the hard work, and we can't

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do it without them. He how many of them fail to make the grade? We do

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have one or two who don't make the grade, but they are all offered to

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the Foster Walker's first as their pet, because they have spent time

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with them. What makes a dog suitable for police work? We test

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the temperament, the courage. It is a very hard test. And any one of

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the items can make them unsuitable. Because they have got to be

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ferocious, professional when needed, but also a sociable when needed.

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The ones we have seen today have been quite happy to be petted or

:25:43.:25:49.

fed. That comes as part of the puppy walking scheme. It allows the

:25:49.:25:53.

dog to be socialised, makes them friendly, until the time that they

:25:54.:25:59.

need to go into action. Harry, thank you very much. Contrary to

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popular opinion, I'm not going to be having a go at this course!

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Spoilsport. Criminals are increasingly using trickster, their

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victims almost like a sleight of hand that magicians use - at least

:26:11.:26:18.

that seems to be what happened in this Mickey theft.

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It was the way he was acting. It wasn't right. These people are

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professional criminals and excellent at their trek, and the

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trick is to perform confusion and get away with money. Absolutely

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devastated that week had been Thursday 12th April, and a man

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walked into a bank near Sheffield. He was picked up on CCTV at the

:26:47.:26:51.

counter, where he embarked on a complex request for a large amount

:26:51.:26:55.

of money to be changed into smaller denominations. But staff got

:26:55.:27:00.

suspicious and sent him on his way. But this man wasn't ready to call

:27:00.:27:03.

it a day. His next stop would be the post office next door, where

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his luck was about change. Joanna Gregory was in charge that day.

:27:11.:27:15.

were quite busy in the afternoon. There were only two of us there.

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The postmaster was on holiday, and I was running it. But I'm just

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double-checking on fail, because he is new and only work Saturdays.

:27:25.:27:31.

man went up to the counter and handed over �500 to the Lancashire.

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The gentleman came in and asked for notes to be changed into lower

:27:37.:27:43.

denominations. He counted them out to the gentleman. After the �500

:27:43.:27:48.

had been counted out in 20 panic, the man said he had changed his and

:27:48.:27:53.

now wanted his money in tens instead. See what �10 notes making

:27:53.:28:00.

up to �500? I asked him what he was doing, and is at the guy wanted

:28:00.:28:04.

lower denominations, but I was a bit suspicious, and I have heard of

:28:04.:28:12.

these schemes. So I asked him to stand to one side, and I took over.

:28:12.:28:22.
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Phil was the UN witting victim of a scam. It is a sleight of hand. They

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ask you to change the notes into different denominations, then

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halfway through a change their mind, or they change from 20 to tens, and

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then to fives. And that creates the element of confusion. The cashier

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is wanted to help these people. There may be people waiting to be

:28:41.:28:46.

served after, and using that as an element of confusion forms part of

:28:46.:28:52.

the trick. And this is exactly what happened at the Post Office. While

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the young cashier had been distracted by the changing request,

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the man had swiftly removed some of the money before handing the one of

:28:59.:29:05.

notes back across the counter. Before we gave the guy the money,

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he said, where did you put the money we already counted, and he

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said, I put it in my drawer. I counted him out �500. But Joanne

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was concerned. After the man had left, she double-checked. We did a

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till check on his Kanter. The guy had stolen �175. Anyone can be

:29:31.:29:36.

tricked by these, because they are so good. This is their profession,

:29:36.:29:42.

and there cashier must not feel let down. Once we realise that we were

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�175 down, I was gutted, because I was running the office, and they

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didn't want to be the one to tell Rob that we had lost in this money.

:29:51.:29:54.

Absolutely devastated that this had happened. You never think it will

:29:55.:30:04.
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It is a simple scam but bold. All it boils down into is a sleight of

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hand trick and clever distracting. Professional magician Stuart Watkin

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iss with me. You saw that then you are going to show us how you can

:30:13.:30:18.

use a sleight of hand to make money disappear. As the video portrayed,

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it is a classic sleight of hand misdirection. There are a number of

:30:25.:30:30.

�20 notes. He has brought them in very close, done a bit of fumbling,

:30:30.:30:39.

and then he has made a few of them disappear. You only have two left!

:30:39.:30:46.

That is where they were I have no idea how you did that. On a serious

:30:46.:30:49.

note what you did was what we wanted you to do. You got us to

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look where we want and the conmen work in that way. Yes the hand is

:30:53.:30:57.

doing the talking and the mouth, and at the same time. To nice

:30:57.:31:03.

people, we want to be helpful and we fall for in all the time. We are

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very polite. Now, what have we got here, there is one two, three, four,

:31:08.:31:14.

five, eight �20 notes. This is a similar scam. People are obtaining

:31:14.:31:19.

large amounts of cash and claiming to be short changed. You will show

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us that I have counted those up. They get a couple of notes and then,

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distracting. You are going to claim... False counting, less.

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count eight and simple as that you can change you say you are short

:31:40.:31:46.

change andly give you more money. It is a scam they use.Ly Hand over

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the extra cash. Time for dodgy deeds on CCTV. Look closely because

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police think all three thefts were carried out by the same man. First

:31:56.:32:01.

off, the cycle racks at Maidenhead station January this year. This

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guy's carrying a helmet and looks as if he is about to get on a bike.

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But under the jacket, he has got bolt cutters and he is quick. The

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lock is cut and he is wheeling the bike away all in less than a minute.

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Let us see that again. Now take note of the jacket, helmet and

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glasses because you are about to see them again. A few weeks later

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and this time we are at another station eight miles away. It is

:32:34.:32:38.

that jacket again, heading for the bikes. He loiters for a while. Then

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the bolt cutters are out once more and it looks as if he is at it

:32:44.:32:52.

again. Goodbye bike, and off he goes. Now this happened in October

:32:53.:32:58.

last year, back in Maidenhead, and the police think this is the same

:32:58.:33:03.

man too. The helmet and glasss are certainly familiar, different

:33:03.:33:08.

jacket but same method. The belt cutters are out and the bike is

:33:08.:33:12.

stolen, if you recognise the person in any of these three pictures get

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in touch. So come on, if you can help with any of those do the right

:33:18.:33:22.

thing, the numbers are on the screen. Let us go back to Nicola at

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the dog training centre. Thank you Rav. Look at this handsome boy.

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This is Ticker and this you saw earlier this is what South

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Yorkshire Police have nicknamed FIDO. If it is working you should

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be getting a live stream of me talking to you now from dog cam

:33:39.:33:42.

this is really important because Ticker is a especially trained

:33:42.:33:45.

firearms dog. He works with especially trained officers here in

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so, shie, you can tell us more about this Richard. What is he

:33:50.:33:55.

wearing that for? Ticker is wearing a camera that he wears when he goes

:33:55.:33:59.

into search buildings as part of a firearms operation. It projepblts

:33:59.:34:04.

an image on the screen, we can see inside. The nature of his job is

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highly dangerous, very risky for the dog.. He works in firearms

:34:10.:34:15.

operations alongside officers so it has a risk. I feel sorry for him

:34:15.:34:18.

because I see this beautiful creature. So we will have a go,

:34:18.:34:21.

sending him in, you will show us an operation as it would happen with

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the live stream, somebody is in there a suspect and you will track

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them down. We will be given the option to come out and if he

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doesn't respond Pat would issue a challenge, if not he releases the

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dog. Clear the building. Show yourself or the the dog will come

:34:39.:34:46.

and find you. Last chance to show yourself before I send the dog.

:34:46.:34:49.

so dramatic stuff. Ticker is searching. Once he finds something

:34:49.:34:52.

he will indicate. So you are watching on the monitor and

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hopefully keeping that live stream. We hope we are still seeing the

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live pictures inside. Is that still working? He is barking he has found

:35:00.:35:07.

somebody up there. He will bark. High pitched noises. Ticker, here

:35:07.:35:12.

he comes. Wow, look at that so he has found the suspect. Does he get

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a reward. In training he will get a reward which for Ticker is a ball.

:35:16.:35:21.

How does the training of these dogs differ to regular police dogs? They

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look the same? Yes, all the general purpose dogs we use are able to

:35:26.:35:31.

search. Not all of them are able to use the camera. It is amazing. An

:35:31.:35:35.

amazing piece of kit and a privilege to see it in action.

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Thank you for showing us. Now back to you. Of course we are heard in

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the news about cuts to front line policing and on Monday they

:35:46.:35:50.

estimated there could be 6,000 fewer front line officers in the

:35:50.:35:54.

next three year, it is no secret that all forces are having to save

:35:54.:35:59.

up to 20% of their budget at the moment. Here they have decided to

:35:59.:36:05.

try and beef up the powers of their PCSOs, their police and community

:36:05.:36:07.

support officers. It is controversial, some say it is

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police on the cheap. But what do they do? We spent some time out

:36:11.:36:19.

with a couple of ethem during a typical day. North of Sheffield is

:36:19.:36:24.

where PCSOs Deb and Steve are based. They are on patrol on their usual

:36:24.:36:28.

base. It is a general patrol. When you are out and about you are

:36:28.:36:33.

looking for things, you know, that could happen, you areied for

:36:33.:36:37.

something and deal with it as and when it happens. These two need to

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know their community. And keep an eye on what is going on. It is good

:36:42.:36:45.

old fashioned neighbourhood policing. The first job today, is a

:36:45.:36:55.
:36:55.:36:55.

friendly warning to someone parked up on a bus stop. Come on. The

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royal has been from the beginning high visibility. Reassurance,

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patrol, reassure members of public. Even though they are wearing a

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uniform they don't have the same powers as regular officers. For

:37:08.:37:12.

example, they can't issue Fixed Penalty Notices and don't have

:37:12.:37:18.

powers of arrest. They also get paid less, a starting salary of

:37:18.:37:24.

round �16,000, compared to �23,000. They do work alongside regular

:37:24.:37:29.

officers, and today Steve and Deb are drafted in to help search the

:37:29.:37:35.

area. A job has just gone out, a youth has snatched a graing a lady

:37:35.:37:40.

and has been seen running through a local park. Keep an eye out for a

:37:40.:37:46.

male, he has a hat on, so we are looking for a male with a hat on.

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South Yorkshire is considering beefg up police community support

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offer's powers but they are adamant they -- adamant they won't replace

:37:56.:38:00.

bobbies on the beat. I don't see them take over from constable, it

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is a team activity and where they can both complement each other.

:38:04.:38:08.

Back on the search, even with the combined strength of the regular

:38:08.:38:15.

officers, the PCSOs and the police helicopter, the bag snatcher gets

:38:15.:38:20.

away. We do pick up dealing with neighbour disputes and low level

:38:20.:38:23.

crime to help police officers, give them more time to do the job and

:38:24.:38:27.

pursue things that need doing, that have a greater effect on the

:38:27.:38:32.

community. In the afternoon, the neighbourhood policing team and a

:38:32.:38:36.

specialist task force are acting on intelligence. They raid a local

:38:36.:38:44.

flat. But when they turn up, the suspects not there. Community

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officers are there to reassure the locals about the police presence.

:38:48.:38:52.

It reassures the members of the public, the areas where they live,

:38:52.:38:56.

work, go to school, go to church they are safe areas, and they

:38:56.:39:00.

should feel reassured that you know, they can go out on the street, they

:39:00.:39:06.

can go and meet members of the families and friends, and there are

:39:06.:39:09.

people -- police on the street. that kind of incident wasn't

:39:09.:39:13.

typical and soon Steve and Deb are back on their community patrol.

:39:13.:39:18.

When the PCSOs were first on the street their role wasn't understood.

:39:18.:39:23.

The more you get to talk to people, the more you get in with the

:39:23.:39:26.

community group groups they understand more. They are working

:39:26.:39:30.

the same areas every day, they build up good contacts. On many

:39:30.:39:34.

occasions I have referred to them as the glue that sticks

:39:34.:39:39.

neighbourhood policing together. But with reductions in the number

:39:39.:39:42.

of regular police officers, only time will tell whether the role of

:39:42.:39:50.

the support officers will change. PCSOs at work there. I am joined by

:39:50.:39:57.

Shaun morely what changes are you proposing to the role of PCSOs?

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are enhancing the training of them so they have more capability to

:40:03.:40:07.

undertake problem solving activity and we are intending to increase

:40:07.:40:11.

the number of powers available to them, so they can more effectively

:40:11.:40:15.

intervene in community based issues. At the moment they can't arrest

:40:15.:40:19.

people, will they be able do so in the future? They won't be able to

:40:19.:40:23.

arrest people, but at the moment there is 58 powers available to

:40:23.:40:28.

them. We use 37. We are going to give them additional powers

:40:28.:40:31.

including the right to confiscate alcohol, the right to issue fixed

:40:32.:40:36.

penalty tickets and the right to detain people for a short period

:40:36.:40:39.

until the arrival of a police officer. They would detain the

:40:40.:40:42.

person in a police vehicle or something until a police officer

:40:42.:40:47.

arrived to execute the arrest. could detain an offender until the

:40:47.:40:51.

arrival of a police officer to make the arrest. All this is coming as

:40:51.:40:56.

you are losing front line officers due to cuts, is it policing on the

:40:56.:41:02.

cheap? No, quite the contrary, really, we are not losing police

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officers, in fact our Chief Constable has said we are going to

:41:06.:41:09.

maintain the levels of front line operation. You are losing police

:41:09.:41:13.

officers but maybe not on the front line. We are not losing front line

:41:14.:41:17.

operational police officers, what we have described is our attempt to

:41:17.:41:21.

improve the efficiency and effectiveness of our community

:41:21.:41:24.

based teams. That has been very effective, because this year we

:41:24.:41:28.

have seen the 10% reduction in crime and a 20% reduction in anti-

:41:28.:41:31.

social behaviour. And that is despite the cuts. Shaun, thank you

:41:31.:41:38.

very much indeed. So, more powers possibly for PSCOs in South

:41:38.:41:44.

Yorkshire. Just time to give you an update. I can tell you that one of

:41:44.:41:48.

our wanted faces, Daniel Gheorghe Plesca, we have had a some

:41:48.:41:52.

information come in on him that police are following up he is

:41:52.:41:59.

wanted for questioning on affray and a possible sighting of another

:41:59.:42:03.

wanted face, this time Laimonis Kleins. We have had a possible

:42:03.:42:07.

sighting of him. So very encouraging coming through from you

:42:07.:42:12.

today, only minutes after it has been on air. Dave and Nicola, where

:42:12.:42:16.

are you tomorrow for our last show? We are going to an amazing place

:42:16.:42:21.

which is like a film set they have fake houses, streets and a

:42:21.:42:25.

courthouse. You have heard of unmarked police car, we are on the

:42:25.:42:30.

road with unmarked police lorries.. I went on that it is very exciting.

:42:30.:42:36.

She wants to take Ticker home. I? He is a working dog. So back to

:42:36.:42:40.

you Rav. Cheers guys. See you tomorrow. That is it for today. We

:42:40.:42:44.

are back for the final bit of crime fighting. Remember our wanted faces

:42:44.:42:50.

and the clips are on the website. In the meantime, have another look

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