Episode 4 Crimewatch Roadshow

It's something everyone needs to see and be aware of.

Well, let's hope you get plenty of help.

On the show today... The men who cashed in when an innocent woman

fell victim to an elaborate scam. I am thinking, oh, my God, I've lost

all that money. This is awful, and it just... And I'm looking at crimes

against our heritage and why beautiful buildings like this are

under attack from criminals. You're watching Crimewatch Roadshow.

Hello and welcome to Crimewatch Roadshow. We're live every weekday

morning. The phone lines are already open so get dialling if you can

help. Also wanted a's programme... -- on today's programme. The couple

to rise in their own home for the collection of gems and Jules. They

pushed us upstairs into the bathroom and we were both tied up and then he

smashed the handle of the bathroom door. And who let the dogs out? We

will put these canine officers to the test live. Our team are

continuing their road trip around the UK. Today they've made it to St

Albans Cathedral in Hertfordshire. Michelle, what are you doing there?

Well, St Albans has a historic past with traders to match, but would you

do the right thing if you found artefacts like these hiding beneath

your feet? First, though, imagine being

watched, followed and then leased for two grand, all of it in broad

daylight and without you suspecting nothing. -- fleeced for two grand. I

always make sure I put my money away, my card away, before I leave

the bank. Everything is zipped up. It's like breathing. You just do it,

it's automatic. Because you got to protect yourself and you've got to

be aware. You can't just wander around with your head in the clouds.

I've lived in Hitchin all my life. Everybody knows me, I know

everybody, and it's lovely. Nice neighbours, nice people, no

problems. I'm very active. I go out every day, except Thursday. I have

to do some housework sometimes! On the morning of February the 16th,

Cynthia made her way into Hitchin town centre. I cook a lot for the

family. I do cakes and pies and things and I wanted some cooking

stuff and stuff like that. First trip was to the bank, because after

the weekend I needed some cash. I just felt safe in the bank. You

don't expect to have anything happen actually in the bank. Without

realising, Cynthia had caught the attention of two other visitors to

the bank. As she waited patiently for the cash machine, one man was

watching her whilst the second moved in closer. As a Cynthia was at the

machine, police believe the men were observing her entering her pin

number. Cynthia left the bank under the watchful eye of one of the

suspects, who was waiting in the street outside. He had her Pin but

he still needed her bank card. Both men followed her every move as she

continued her shopping. I went to the post office to pay my gas and

electric. As I walked down I thought, I'll go and have a look in

the help the aged charity shop. It was year police believe they took

the opportunity to strike. Suddenly this guy was immediately in

front of me. He said, "Excuse me, madam, I am French and I would like

to buy my mother a coat". Thinking, what has this got to do with me? He

said, "She's allergic to certain materials. Can you tell me what the

lining is made of?" I said, OK, I'll have a look. I put my bag down

between my uncles. -- ankles. It didn't register that he was doing

any harm. It really didn't. The man left an Cynthia picked up the back.

It was when she realised something was wrong. -- picked up her back. I

realised my wallet was sticking out of my bag. I knew it should be in

the zipper, I just knew. The man didn't hang about. By the time

Cynthia realised what had happened, he was on the move and had walked

across the market towards Barclays bank on the high street. I just

couldn't believe it and what I did was run for Barclays. And I don't

run. I don't run for a boss, never mind Barclays or anywhere, I really

don't, but I did that dated top But the suspect was quicker and was

already one step ahead of her. She arrived at the bank to get help from

staff. What she didn't realise was the man slipped straight past,

having already raided her account it took I am thinking, "Oh, my God,

I've lost all that money. " it just... In total, ?2250 was stolen

from her account that date. I was a target, definitely. I feel perfectly

safe in my own town. It never occurred to me until afterwards. I

thought, "Why would anybody follow me? I'm an ordinary lady" I just go

shopping and do all them silly things". Police believe this was a

well rehearsed crime. She thought that she was doing absolutely

everything right with her own personal security. It was just

really unfortunate, what happened to her, that there are team of

professional criminals out there who are determined at any cost to target

vulnerable people who don't even realise that they are vulnerable. I

don't let anything affect me. I go where I want to go and nobody should

be able to do that to me but what a cheek to go into my bank and take my

money. What a net! What a net indeed. DI Lynda Coates from Pavic

police joins me now. This happened in broad daylight in the middle of a

town centre. What do we know about these men? What we know from CCTV is

that they get out of a small dark-coloured car and make their way

to Barclays bank and identify Mrs Parker as being their target. They

follow her around the town for about half an hour before they find the

opportunity, where they can distract her, steal her card. They've gone

straight back to Barclays, where they have drawn out ?2000 using her

card and her pin. They've got back into their car which, unfortunately,

is quite obscured by another vehicle, so we can't identify

exactly what it is, so we are asking for witnesses today. Do they

recognise these men and if so, would they be able to call us so we can

take this further forward. Where do I go afterwards? Do they carry on

using the card? Yes, they did. They've driven away from the town

centre to Stevenage, Grove Road, whether as a BP garage, where they

have used the card to withdraw ?200 and then across the road in a small

newsagent's, they've withdrawn a further ?50. How did they get the

Pin? We think they have been able to look and Milik at the way people use

their hands when they using their keypads. We know that these

individuals were quite some distance away from Mrs Parker when she put

her Pin number in seven wouldn't have been able to see it, so we

think they've mimicked her hand movements. Thank you very much. It

goes to show, you need to be extra careful at cash machines. Rav, back

to you. Thanks. Those are great CCTV images so someone must know who they

are. If you do, get on the phone. The South Wales Police dog team is

one of the most called upon unit in the country. They have been involved

in some of the biggest police investigations in the UK and abroad,

from the disappearance of Madeleine McCann to the murder of Bristol

teenager Becky Watts. So what makes these docs so special? I'm joined by

Sgt Ian Roderick and PC Russ Jones with new recruit Jess and this cute

but noisy puppy is Ruby. And I'm delighted to welcome schoolchildren

from Cogan School, who have sponsored Jess. Ian, if I can start

with yourself, what makes these docs so vital to police? They're canine

cops, really. The dog and handler work as a team. We ask them to do

jobs that are too dangerous or difficult for people to do. A vital

part of crime-fighting, really, and they are a vital tool to Dock Russ,

you are looking after Jess, one of the newest recruits. How those she

adapted? She has adapted very well and we are now working as an

effective team. She is very well-behaved. You are going to

demonstrate now, Ian. One of your officers going to show us what the

seven dogs can do. This is Ben, and eight-year-old springer spaniel and

he is a drugs, cash and weapons recovery dog so he is trained to

locate any of those substances. You have hidden something in the studio

which the dog is going to look for. There is a stash of currency hidden

about the premises and Ben logs onto the target odour and he will freeze

in front of it. A passive response? Pass a vindication. We don't want

him interfering with it so we lose any opportunities for forensic

recovery. You don't normally think the cash has a strong scent but

there was obvious we something there. What is he doing now? He

froze on that article. And he has found it! You saw the handler

throwing something at the dog. We give the dog his ball and that is

his reward for finding the article. We are going to meet some of the

schoolchildren from Cogan School. You've got a particular interest,

thank you, James, in the dogs yourself, because you've met Jess

before, the dog, and you raised the money, you sponsored the dog. What

did you do? To help fund money for Jess, me and my little sister Emily,

at home we have a reward system where if we do extra jobs and good

work, we get a marble, so each marble is worth 20p and my little

sister got 50 marbles equalling to ?10 and I got 100 marbles, equalling

up to ?20, so in total... And you gave the money for Jess? Brilliant!

Isabel, you met Jess before. What did you think? We had a cake sale.

We raised ?233 and I brought some cupcakes and roles and stuff. And

just give me a show of hands out all of you, who thinks you might fancy

being a dog handler when you grow up? All of you? Yeah! Four!

Brilliant. Well done for raising the money and love to meet you all.

Later in the programme, we're going to see how these dogs react in a

potentially life-threatening situation and you are not going to

want to miss it. Michelle, back to you. Welcome back

to the beautiful cathedral in St Albans, which has had its fair share

of visitors over the centuries. It has been a place of pilgrimage for

1700 years and the entire county of Hertfordshire is one for history

buffs, with its Roman connections, but sadly, historical sites like

this often fall victim to heritage crime. To explore this a little

further, we've created our own heritage crime scene and to help me

decipher the evidence, let me introduce Sergeant James Bartlett

from Hertfordshire police and Mark Harrison, a former chief inspector

and now you are crime and policing adviser with historical England. Let

me start with you first. If we go over here, we've got some smashed

glass in this evidence back. What is the relevance of this? Sadly,

churches like the Cathedral and others in the area are victims of

crime, anti-social behaviour, left etc and we have had here and at

other locations stained glass windows smashed. -- theft etc. Let's

move on here. We've got this large head. Talked me through this. This

is a statute that stood in the town of Hartford for a couple of hundred

years and sadly, it has been damaged and decapitated and, again, a big

issue in Hartford, it was a focal point and lots of people are upset

by what has occurred. It is a real shame for the community. Thank you.

I will move over to Mark to talk what catches your eye about this

evidence? Looking across here, I can see objects that may have been used

in committing heritage crime. We've got a can of spray paint that has

been used in graffiti, some matches that have been used to set fire to a

historic site or building and often, these cases, the damage caused is

irreversible and it is a lost not just to the owner but to the nation.

What about the stone slabs overhear? Everyone at home will have heard

about the theft of metal but the theft of stone is also an emerging

problem, people are using it in landscape projects, for people to

check that their builders and managers are using properly sourced

material. Do you have a problem with stone theft in Hertfordshire? It is

the problem all over, we have experienced it. A milestone was

recently stolen from not far away from here, luckily through our

Heritage Watch and volunteers we were able to recover that damaged.

But what Mark has described this something that occurs. Thank you

very much. They are going to be joining me later as we look at the

growing issue of not talking and we will have an array of hidden

treasures that might be of interest. -- night talking.

Here is what is still to come. The brutal burglars who attacked a woman

in her home. And all museums want visitors, but not ones who sneak

around in the dead of night. Despite the fact it looked slightly comical,

the way he was creeping around, it does put a major strain on our

finances when things like this happen. First, we need you to look

at today's suggestion of crooks caught on camera, some of these are

nasty. -- today's selection. December of last year, these two men

are wandering past the entrance of business Park in Oxfordshire. One of

them is holding a bag and they walk up the path and out of sight. When

they next appear, they have had a costume change and are wearing

matching tracksuits and caps. It looks like they try to work out how

to get into the office block. Moments later, they are in. And it's

not a social visit. They make threats to the petrified staff

members, one of them even snaps and expensive laptop in half stop the

intimidating Jarreau caused ?3500 worth of damage. -- intimidating

duel. Saturday evening at a bar in central

London, and this guy is on his way to the toilet. A short while later,

he's heading back to the bar, chatting to a couple of lads. Watch

what he does next. He had but one of them straight in the face. The

victim had to go to hospital and had his eyebrow stitched back together.

Who is this.? It is a snowy day in March this

year. This woman is dressed for the weather, and also armed for the job.

As she waves her gun, detectives say she is demanding money from the

till. The shopkeeper refuses to help her, so she sets to work out how to

open the till herself. She takes off her gloves and managers to get the

draw open. She collect around ?400 worth of takings and strolls out of

the shop. Someone must know who is under the hood. We are awaiting your

call. If you recognised anyone, get on the

phone now. Calls are free from landlines and mobile phones, or you

can text us. Texts will be charged at your standard message rate.

I am joined by DC Mandy Davies from Hertfordshire police who wants your

help with a frightening burglary that happened six miles up the road.

Tell us a bit more about it. It was just before 10pm on Saturday 14th of

May, from the young lady in question was home alone, as her parents had

gone out. She sat on the bench outside having a cigarette, when two

men approached from behind, wearing balaclavas, and one had a hockey

stick. They attacked her, the Quebec into the house where they were

joined by a third person. -- took her back into the house. It was a

horrible attack. They left with a safe and the victim's car. We can

see on the CCTV, they approached the property on foot and then they leave

with the car, how do they get the house? Unfortunately not, that's

what I'm here for today, I just want someone to come forward and say, did

you see them at 10pm that night, they all had balaclavas on, did you

see them before that, getting dropped off? Harpenden Townsend is

ten minutes away and we have Luton Road a couple of minutes away, they

did speed of the award Annabel's Lane. The suspect escaped with a

safe, has it been recovered? It's unfortunately not, it is a grey

safe, it was built by Burton Safes. It was empty so you can only get

into it with a cruel and an angle grinder, anyone who has seen the

safes, I believe it would have been dumped someone, please get in touch

with us. We have a similar car to the one that was stolen overhear,

have you any more details about it? It had a unique and the plate. --

numberplate. And quite a distinctive colour, it is dark brown, it is a

4x4. They were only in the house for ten minutes and they sped off, they

had gone towards Annabel's Lane, the last sighting was Hampstead Road.

This was terrifying for her, how is she doing now? She is shocked,

terrified and frightened to go out in the dark, but I will say it is a

very rare crime and Hertfordshire is all a safe county to live in. If you

do have any information, you know what to do. If you have lived

happily in somewhere for over 50 years, you would surely feel safe

walking to your local shops but the one pensioner from Kent, that sense

of security has gone after she was the victim of a vicious robbery. The

coastal town of Folkestone in Kent, home to retired librarian and mother

of three, 80-year-old Joyce. Lived in Folkestone quite a while, since

1961. It's a very nice place, actually. Photos: nothing beats a

spot of shopping, and in the afternoon of Saturday 27th of

February she headed out to get her groceries. She doesn't carry a

handbag but puts her house keys and purse in a plastic bag. Joyce

visited a few shops and it was about 7pm when she finished and began to

walk to her son's house nearby. I crossed the crossing, past the

Catholic church, it was a bit dark at that time. I was carrying a bit

of heavy shopping, this chap appears from the front of me. I was carrying

quite heavy bags, thought he was going to help me at first. But the

man was only there to help himself, and began to grab her bags. I was

saying, let go, let go! I was hanging on, he kept pulling and

pulling hard and then my wrist went. Joyce fell to the floor, letting go

of the bags. The robber fled, leaving her lying helplessly on the

street. I might have hit him with my stick but I couldn't do that. Joyce

had lost her money, her keys and had been left with a broken wrist. I had

an x-ray and they said it was quite a nasty break, actually. In the

beginning I couldn't pick things up. Her injuries meant she could no

longer go on living alone. I had to move in with my son, who has kindly

put me up. And put up with me! She has also had to say goodbye to her

beloved cat Toby. My cat has come into the category, for about six

weeks now. Joyce wants her attacker to be caught. Go to get him off the

street, he is dangerous, I would say. So here he is. Please take a

good look at do you recognise this man, last seen fleeing the scene in

the direction of Copthorne Gardens? He's described as white or olive

skinned, in his early 20s, quite tall, with stubble and wearing dark

clothes including a great family hat. Kent Police are keen to find

him. If his face rings a bell, you know what to do.

Police forces from around the country are asking

First up today are Peter Gifford and his partner Penelope Lawton.

49-year-old Gifford and 52-year-old Lawton didn't turn up

for their trial at Truro Crown Court for mortgage fraud.

They were found guilty in their absence of applying

fraudulently for mortgages to the sum of ?1.6 million.

Gifford was also found guilty at a later trial

They both have links to Falmouth, but could now be anywhere in Europe.

Next is this man, Fred Butcher, although he also calls

He was due to appear in court in connection with an attack

in which four members of a family were injured in a pub

in Banbury in Oxfordshire, but failed to turn up.

Butcher is 46 and has an Irish accent and a large scar

As well as Oxfordshire, he has links to North Hampshire

Finally, this is Kerol Farquharson, although he also calls himself

numerous other names including Christopher, Aaron,

He's 59 and was jailed for three years for burglary

He was released early on licence, but has failed to stick

to the conditions of his release and is now wanted back in prison.

He's 6'4" and of broad build and has a large scar

He's known around London, especially the Lewisham

If you recognise any of these faces, make sure you

pick up the phone and dial the number on screen.

We have been hearing all morning about heritage crime but even places

where they keep a close eye on precious objects aren't safe from

criminals. Luckily the night won the spent at the museum was captured on

CCTV. -- one criminal. We are a Victorian waterworks, we

has a unique collection of Victorian steam engines, they used to pump the

water the West London. To keep the museum going, donations from

visitors are vital. We don't have any external funding, we had to

generate all our own money in order to keep our engines running and to

run the museum, keep it open to the public. Donations are crucial to the

survival of the museum. You are constantly concerned about where

you're going to get the funding from, if you like to keep it going.

The museum has at his splash out on security. We have had issues with

small break-ins, we have two security systems, we have an

external and internal alarm which we set every day, so generally, we are

very good on security. But unfortunately their security wasn't

enough to keep one determined intruder out. It was well after

hours on 26th of March when two men decided to pay the museum visit. One

waited outside whilst the other climbed in through the window and

spent a lot of time wandering around. There was total of 20

working inside the museum at the time, which is why the alarm hadn't

gone off. -- there was still a volunteer. The burglar by this time

had on himself with a knife. There was no money in the till so he used

the knife to smash the donation box. Taking ?200 from it. He can be seen

passing things to his mate, police believe the way he was able to gain

access so easily suggests he may have been there before. Not content

with the money he has talent, he also grabbed a 11 from the souvenir

shop. And went to some lengths to tidy up after himself, very

considerate. It meant it took the staff some time to realise they had

been burgled. The morning after the break-in, when we came into work, it

wasn't immediately evident that something had happened. It wasn't

until we saw the donations box that we saw that it was cracked and that

all the notes that were in the nation 's box the previous day were

no longer in there. -- the donation box. Despite the small amount taken,

police are taking it seriously. Aside from the theft, he has picked

up a knife. Had someone come across that person, what could have

happened? At best guess, looking place in between 20 and 30, maybe

older but it doesn't appear to be a young person, not a teenager. Five

to ten, quite slim, he has got through a window so fairly flexible.

Love plans or friends will be able to tell from the way he walks, is

that the first they know? Despite the fact that it looks

slightly, call, the way he was creeping around, it is actually

really hurtful and I think a lot of the volunteers and the staff felt

that it is just so unfair because we work so hard and people are so kind

and generous in terms of donating. For someone to just come in and take

that, while it might not be the crime of the century, it really does

put a major drain on our finances when things like this happen.

Let's have one more look at that intruder. If you know this beef with

a passion for history, burglary and even cleaning, please do get in

touch with us. Thanks, Rav. Hertfordshire police

need your help to catch the violent burglars who left a couple without

their hard earned retirement pot. Please be warned, this is a really

serious case. It was over ?50 and I bought a

couple of gold chains 40 years ago and out of that 50 quid, I ended up

at three Julys' shops. Peter and his wife Janet have worked together in

the jewellery trade for 40 years. Together they built up a successful

business specialising in customised jewellery. You make something for a

customer and you give it to them and they go, "That's absolutely lovely".

It's a real enjoyment. As they got older, and with Peter suffering from

arthritis, they sold their shops and instead run a local market stall one

day a week. This meant keeping their jewellery stock at home, making them

a potential target for thieves. In July last year, Peter and Janet

returned home from an evening out. We went to the pub, had a meal,

listened to the Irish band and then at about 11 o'clock we came home.

Janet just made a cup of tea. We sat down and we started hearing these

thugs from upstairs. -- thuds. By the time I got out of my seat, the

guy was standing in the doorway of the room. Get out! Get down. He had

a machete, shouting, "Sit down, sit down". The man threatened the

terrified couple with a Miss Betty -- machete and wasn't acting alone.

He let in an accomplice who was armed with a shotgun. They began to

rip necklaces, rings from the couple, before tying Janet upped it

they turned their attention to Peter. They said, "We know you do

the market, we know you do that. Where is the safe?" . Beta was

forced to lead the attack as to his safe. Once opened, they grabbed all

of the inside. But their ordeal still wasn't over. They pushed us

both up the stairs into the bathroom and we were both tied up. He stuffed

some socks in my mouth and put tape around my mouth and then he smashed

the handle off the bathroom door, so that we couldn't open the door.

Leaving the petrified couple tied up in the bathroom, the men fled. They

try to actually attack your castle. Police are desperate to know who

could have done this. This is the worst aggravated burglary I have

ever dealt with. The level of violence they used an Janet and

Peter was absolutely abhorrent and shopping. We believe that this

offence had been planned for a long time and we believe that the

offenders involved were professionals and they have done

this before. However, one of the offenders appeared to be extremely

nervous, to the extent that he was saying to the female victim, whilst

he was shoving socks in her mouth, he was saying sorry. It may suggest

that that offender has some sort of conscience for what he did on that

day and we just appeal to anybody out there, if there is any bit of

information you can give us, whether it is small, it really doesn't

matter, just to help us catch these criminals and bring them to justice.

Peter estimates the men made off with around ?80,000 worth of stock,

everything the couple had, and, as a result, they have been forced to

give up their business altogether. The stock that we had was our

pension and that was to see us through our old age. Obviously,

that's gone. But what stayed with the couple is the payment to stress

the attackers caused. -- pain and stress. It was very traumatic. It

still is, in a way, because you still get flashbacks to these things

and it irritates me that I don't know who these people are. It makes

you very nervous if you hear a bomb or anything, even though it will be

a year in July. I'm not the same person that I was.

A truly terrifying ordeal for Peter and Janet. DCI Katy Tucker is

working on the case. What do we know about the men who did this? There

are two men involved in this horrific incident. One was a white

male, aged between 20 and 30 years old. He was brandishing a machete

and was wearing a balaclava. The second man was a black male, who we

believe was aged about 30 and had a thickset build. There is something

extremely unusual in the blackmail's behaviour, in that when he was

shoving socks into Janet's mouth, he was apologising to her, which may

suggest that he has some sort of conscience. We have a replica of the

weapon that was used. I mean, this is just so frightening. Totally

horrific. As you can imagine, Janet and Peter had been out on a really

nice evening and they come home to a male threatening them with this

machete. They truly believed that they were going to be seriously

injured or worse, killed. What about the jewellery that was taken? Have

you any more details? There were several high-value items of

jewellery stolen. One in particular was quite distinct and red. It was a

Rolex watch with an 18 carat gold band with a diamond blue faced. So I

appeal to anybody, if anybody has come across this jewellery, please

phone in. Thank you so much. Obviously, the impact it has had an

Peter and Janet and their business is massive so if you do have any

information, get in touch with us. We've come out the back of the

studio now onto an old soaps set for a special demonstration we promised

you earlier. Welcome back to Ian and the rest of the team from South

Wales Police dog unit, who are just round the corner. You are going to

show us what one of the dogs can do in a potentially life-threatening

situation. You got all ready, poised, so take it away. -- you got

Orla. The dog has gone straight for the arm. We will let the dog get

under control first. She doesn't want to let go! There we go. If we

just come round here, Ian... Wow! That was pretty impressive. Talk me

through what just happened. Before we carry on, are you all right? I'm

fine! You are absolutely fine! The dog went straight for the arm - why

was that? They go for the right arm of the person. The majority of the

public all right handed and he would be carrying the weapon in that

answer we want to mobilise the weapon. The guy that came out with a

fake gun is one of your colleagues but he's not a small guy and he

couldn't shake off the dog. They do pack a punch. That's why the we

choose this breed of dog is. They pack a mean punch and they punch

their weight. They are agile, they are fit and very fast. How long

would it take to train a dog like Orla? This is a culmination of eight

years of experience, so her initial training is 30 weeks of duration and

then there is regular continuation training throughout the year. She is

assessed once you to make sure she is safe under the control. The more

experience they get and the more controlled, the better. Let's go

over and meet Ieuan. How was that for you? How have you found Orla to

train and work with? Very good. They pick at a very quick. Really

responsive. She is a very good dog. In your hand you got a toy and to

Orla, she is just doing it all to get a toy? It is just play for them!

This isn't an easy thing for the dogs, just like the human groups, it

is a selection process and not everyone of the dogs makes it

through the training. We invest a lot of time and money in dogs so we

want to make sure we've got the right package to start with. As you

saw with Ruby... Ruby was the puppy. She's come from very strong

bloodlines. Whilst it is nature and nurture, the nature has got to be

right before we can develop that and harness the ability. This is the

result, a fully trained recruited top thank you, everyone, for joining

us. Now let's go back to Michelle in St Albans.

Thanks, Rav. Welcome back to St Albans Cathedral and our heritage

crime scene, which contains some new evidence. Early in the programme, we

were talking about historic sites like this falling victim to heritage

crime but there is also a growing problem with the rogue use of these,

metal detectors. I'm joined by Mark Harrison, Sgt Jamie Bartlett and

David, the creator of the Roman Verulamium Museum down the road.

What is night hawking? Simply, people unlawfully removing objects

from above or below the ground, using metal detecting devices. How

are you going about tackling the problem? Working in partnership with

the police, the British Museum and the metal detecting community

themselves, we've launched Operation Chronos and this is to seek out that

very small criminal minority that are not following the rules. Jamie,

is this a problem for you in Hertfordshire? We do see night

hawking a lot in Hertfordshire. Just down the road from here, we have the

Roman theatre and the land that surrounds that is a magnet for

people coming looking for artefacts. It causes a problem to landowners

and farmers, people damaging their property to get onto the land,

damaging crops. It is a big issue with confrontation etc. If people

have been nighthawk, what do they need to look out for? What other"

Bob Clews tend to be excavations, damaged offences, damage to crops.

-- what art the Clews? We were heritage watch and we encourage

people to report suspicious activity to stick top We've got quite a few

artefacts and these are the type of things that I guess nighthawks would

be looking for. These are some of the objects that have been reported

to Roman Verulamium Museum by legitimate detectorists working

within the Treasure Act. We have a medieval button, and eighth

centuries suction disc mount and a Roman gold coin, early fifth

century, one of 159 found in a horde. What about these? These are a

couple of jokes and a Roman patter and these are from a burial which

adds all the objects associated with them and they came in the terms of

the Treasure Act. What is the impact of people find these things and

don't bring them back to the museums? If they are not reported to

us, the museum cannot purchase the object and put them on display in

the first instance, so we don't see the artefacts, and secondly, we lose

all the information associated with them. In the case of a gold coins,

we found 159. One alone doesn't have much significance but 159, it's a

lot of money in one area and shows that at a time when the Romans were

leaving Britain, there was still a huge amount of wealth in this area.

David, Jamie, Mark, thank you so much. It is given us much more of an

understanding. Rav, back to you. Just time for an

update on what has come in on the phone is. We've already had an

arrest on one of the wanted faces we've shown you this week. He was

arrested and was in custody within just a few hours of being shown so

thank you for all your help. We've also had lots of calls on the

Melanie Hall murder case we featured yesterday. Melanie disappeared 20

years ago after leaving a nightclub in Bath. Officers are chasing all

the information that is, in. So thank you to everyone that has got

in touch. Michelle, where you going to be tomorrow?

Well, we will be ending our first week in London, where we will be on

patrol with the Met's oldest and longest serving special constable.

It just goes to show that age is nothing but a number when it comes

to catching criminals. We will see you bright and early tomorrow

morning. Thanks, Michelle. For more details

on the grounds on today's programme, go to our website but before we go,

here is another look at this morning's wanted faces. If you know

where they are, please pick up that phone. We will be back tomorrow but

we will be on BBC Two at the slightly later time of 9:30am. Join

us then. In the meantime, take care and goodbye.

Join me, Kirsty Young... ..and me, Huw Edwards,

as we accompany the Queen for a weekend of ceremonial splendour.

On Friday, we're live from St Paul's.

On Saturday, we'll be at Horse Guards Parade.

And on Sunday, the celebrations end with the Patron's Lunch on the Mall.