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Never before have so many on-the-spot fines

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been issued in Britain.

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We're going to be following the men and women who hand out

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over £30 million worth of tickets every month...

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-Oops.

-Round here they're an absolute blight.

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I'm up to 104 now.

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-Wow!

-That is disgusting.

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Just walk away.

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..for behaviour that's downright dangerous.

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That was stupid for these sorts of conditions, wasn't it?

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'Simply selfish...'

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-Look at the mess you've created in the street.

-How is that our fault?

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'..or just, well...'

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What is he doing?

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'..plain silly.'

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What a doughnut.

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'We'll be revealing the cost of their bad behaviour...'

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£100 fine.

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-Pays £260.

-Ouch.

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'..and how this could affect you.'

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-Might give them a punch.

-You want to see me kick off?

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'The police are on it...'

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What the...!

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'..the parking wardens are on it...'

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They should be thanking us for being here.

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'..and I'm on it.'

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There's a 30 mile an hour limit here.

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'I'm Dom Littlewood

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'and I'm on the spot.'

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'Today, there's a meaty fine at stake

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'for these pizza-loving students.'

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Why are your bins full?

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Sorry? Because we've a lot of people in the house,

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which create a lot of waste.

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Yeah, and you've got enough bins for 14 people.

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'..and will this unhappy driver manage to fight his parking fine?'

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£80 for something which I didn't even know nothing about?

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The law's not on your side essentially.

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No, it isn't, is it?

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'Today, we're kicking off with being on the spot in Wiltshire.

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'I'm riding shotgun with a busy traffic cop

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'and I love a bit of blues and twos. I think.'

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Got to have a strong stomach being thrown around in a car like this,

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-haven't you?

-You're not being thrown around, this is a lovely smooth,

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-progressive drive.

-For you, maybe.

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'Mr Cool here is Wiltshire Police's Jay Clifton.'

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Can you tell me what the speed limit for the motorway is?

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70.

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Jay has the power to issue on-the-spot fines of £100

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to anyone caught speeding on his patch.

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M4 heading eastbound towards London, pretty rural area apart from,

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of course, this being a very busy motorway.

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What's this like for people using and abusing privileges on the road?

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It's the same as any motorway.

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We get speeders and we get a lot going on

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such as this one going past us now.

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'Could this be Jay's first fine of the day?'

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Why are we suddenly accelerating?

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Just accelerating, as I've been chatting to you,

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I've just seen a vehicle coming up behind us who's certainly travelling

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in excess of the 70-mile-an-hour speed limit.

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You're doing 90 to keep up with him.

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I'm up to 104 now.

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Wow.

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'This is more like it.

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'But at the rate that driver's going,

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'I'm wondering if there's going to be at least a £100 on-the-spot fine

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'for speeding on the cards.'

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I'm going to keep a distance between myself and the vehicle ahead of us.

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'With the vehicle in his sights,

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'Jay now needs to start recording the evidence.'

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I've got a calibrated speedo on my vehicle.

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That's a steady 100 miles an hour as well.

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So I'm going to quickly turn my camera on.

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Right, because you've now videoed him doing

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in excess of 100 miles an hour, is that going to be a ban?

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I could deal with it by way of a fixed-penalty notice...

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..or I could report him to go to court.

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His speed averaged between 96 and 100.

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It was only at a very brief distance that it went over it.

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'So this driver is driving fast enough

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'to get a £100 on-the-spot fine

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'or he could go to court and end up with a ban.

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'Which will Jay choose?'

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SIREN WAILS 'Well, we need to catch him first.'

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What I'm going to do is just come alongside him now.

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You follow me.

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The reality has just hit them.

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How common an occurrence is that?

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Speeding on a motorway?

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Very common.

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'The blue light's on.

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'And I'm thinking is this going to end

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'in a fine for the speeding driver?'

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-Hello, sir, how are you?

-Not too bad.

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The reason I'm still you is your speed.

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'The driver immediately admits to doing 80-90

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'and Jay is not impressed.'

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I have to point out that it's an offence to drive at excess speed

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and in relation to that you don't have to say anything

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but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned

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something which you later rely on in court.

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Anything you do say may be given in evidence.

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You're not under arrest, but I want to have a chat.

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Do you have your driver's licence with you at all, sir?

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'Jay has read him his rights as a matter of procedure,

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'but does this mean a court summons or an on-the-spot fine?

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'And I've noticed something else.'

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What's a bit disappointing - the car's next to me, the...

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I can see right now, his wife's sitting in the front,

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he's got two babies in child seats behind him,

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probably somewhere in the region, I would say,

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of two and three years old.

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We've all sped, none of us are angels,

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but when you've got young kids that age, I just think, er...

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Well, personally, I think you need to be a bit more sensible.

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Is there any lawful reason you can give me

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as to why you're travelling at that speed?

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'The guy still claims he was only doing around 80

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'but Jay is still unconvinced.

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'Anyone else think this could end in a ticket?'

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Your speed averages between, I would suggest, 95-100.

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You know, as well as I do, anything over 100 miles an hour,

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you go to court and you're likely to get a disqualification.

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'It's not looking good for this driver.

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'It could be much worse than an on-the-spot fine.'

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However, because I had to catch up with you initially

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before keeping an equal distance between yourself and myself, I

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would suggest, that perhaps,

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that 104 may have been my acceleration to catch you up.

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So, let's take a look at Jay's options.

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The driver has been clocked speeding with his young family in the car.

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Will it be a court summons

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if Jay is certain he was consistently over 100 miles an hour?

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Will it be a fixed penalty on-the-spot fine?

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Or maybe just a firm warning?

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At least, that's what the driver wants.

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I can, you're right, I can.

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But, for you, I'm not going to.

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Your speed is well in excess of the 70-mile-an-hour speed limit.

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In view of that, the way I propose to deal with that today

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is by way of a fixed-penalty notice, which is going to be three points

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on your licence and a £100 fine payable within 28 days.

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There it is. The driver has escaped a ban, just.

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But he still got three points on his licence

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and a £100 fixed-penalty notice.

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Initially, he thought that the speed limit for the motorway was 80-90,

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although he's held his licence in the UK for ten years.

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He couldn't answer the speed limit for the motorway.

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The sort of speeds he was travelling at,

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how dangerous would you consider those to be?

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The vehicle is travelling close to 100 miles an hour,

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96-100 miles an hour - at that kind of speed,

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if another vehicle was to break down ahead of him

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or he had to take evasive action, someone's going to die.

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It's extremely dangerous.

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What got me about that is those kids in the back were very, very young.

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They weren't even old enough to tell Dad, "Slow down."

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And I would find that very hard to believe that if you had kids

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of that age, you would even want to drive that speed, it just seems mad.

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To you and I it seems mad, but people...

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-Everyone's different.

-Yeah. Nuttier than a squirrel's

-BLEEP,

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-that's what I say.

-Yeah, let's get another one.

-Right.

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'We'll be back with Jay a bit later on

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'to witness some more dangerous driving.'

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In Cardiff, the council are really getting tough on grime.

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The Welsh capital is booming

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with the fastest growing population in Wales, but with more people

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comes more rubbish and more rubbish means more opportunities to mess up.

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Residents who break the city's new household waste disposal rules

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could face a £100 on-the-spot fine,

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courtesy of Waste Enforcement Officer Steph,

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who, it seems, can sniff out literally anything.

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Yeah, there's a really strange smell here.

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It must have been your hi-vis - it smells like feet.

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-He's got new boots, new fleece.

-The hardest worker here.

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Steph is joined on the beat today by fellow Enforcement Officer Jon.

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He's the one with the smelly hi-vis.

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Let's go. See you later.

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You know that saying, "It's a dirty job but someone's got to do it?"

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Well, in this job it's actually true.

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Tell us that cat story, Steph.

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-There was a cat.

-It must have been there... What was it, in a bag?

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It was in a cardboard box and Kieran, who I was working with,

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thought it was driftwood because it was that colour.

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-It had been there for so long.

-And he picked it up like that

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and he was like, "That would look nice in my fish tank,"

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and I went, "It's a cat," and he went, "What?" I said, "It's a cat,"

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and he turned it round and it was like that.

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To meet tough new recycling targets,

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the council have introduced new slimline black waste bins,

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encouraging people to recycle more of their waste in green plastic bags

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rather than just putting it in the general waste bins.

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Today, Steph's finely-tuned sense of smell and eagle eyes

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have tracked down some badly behaving waste

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belonging to some of the city's 30,000 students.

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A lot of the students, they put extra waste out.

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They put their bin out

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and that's the only thing the bin men will collect

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and they put extra waste out

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not realising if they recycle properly or use the food waste bin,

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that they'd have more room in their black bin

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and their waste would be collected.

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Steph is clearly on a mission to find these student offenders

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so, if she does, what can they expect?

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Pay attention at the back.

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It could be either a caution,

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a £100 fine or £1,000 fine for a repeat offender. Ouch.

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Because these are near the lane,

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I'm just going to give these a little kick.

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Because you never know if there could be mice.

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I have been known to run away from leaves thinking they are mice.

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So, if you're not careful with that wrapper, boys,

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that could be a very expensive burger.

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Steph and John know exactly where they're heading today.

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They're off to visit a property that they've already had problems with.

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The first signs that waste is about are here. The scavengers.

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The seagulls are here. They love it.

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Basically, you've got nine boys living in a property there.

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I've had a problem with them a couple of weeks ago.

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their front garden was full of waste.

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It was split, as well. I've also had reports from their neighbours that

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they are dumping waste in their bins.

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This is a shocking mess but let's see if it's a fineable offence.

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Here goes. First step, finding the guilty party.

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Hi, Cardiff Council waste enforcement.

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Is this a flat or one house?

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-One house.

-OK, how many live in the house?

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-Nine of us.

-There's nine of you. OK.

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It's just about a bag that you've put out.

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Next step, examine the evidence.

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I just want you to come out and have a look.

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Obviously yourself or one of your housemates has put it out.

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This is the mess it's created.

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Steph starts off with a softly, softly approach.

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This is a house with nine people.

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You've got enough bins there for 15 people. You're not recycling.

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Food waste goes in your food waste bin and the recyclable materials,

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all right, go in the recycling bags and they go out every week.

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Unlike the residents.

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-Every week?

-Recycling the food waste is weekly.

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And then your general waste bin is...

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I've had our bins here not collected for weeks before.

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-No, I'm sorry. I'm here every week.

-I'm not lying.

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Perhaps they don't realise there's a £100 fine rising to £1,000

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if they don't pay it.

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Look at the mess you've created in the street.

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How is that our fault?

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Because you put a black bag out, all right?

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If you put it in the correct receptacles,

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it would be collected by the binmen. You didn't.

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Where would we have put the black bins, black bags

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if we didn't have a bin to put it in?

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Temperatures and tempers are hotting up.

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There's going to be a fine.

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This is a ten-man house.

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Yeah, and you've got enough bins for 14 people.

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-We've got two bins.

-Yes, that's for eight people.

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I've got four at home between four people. A bin each at home.

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You just don't get it. If you put all your recycling in the bags,

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you'd have more room in your bins. It's as simple as that.

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Is anyone wondering what degree they're studying? It could be law.

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Where are we going to put them? In the kitchen?

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-It's a health hazard, isn't it?

-Why are your bins full?

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Or drama?

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That's not a point, mate.

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When the bins are full, we put the plastic bags out!

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Or maybe languages?

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-But to be honest...

-BLEEP!

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What other chance have I got? You...

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BLEEP!

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Every single house has got rubbish on the front.

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There's obviously a problem, isn't there?

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I'd stay out of it, mate, if I were you.

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There could be a £100 fine on the cards here.

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THEY ARGUE

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I'm trying to tell you if you put the recycling in the recycling bags,

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you'd have load more room in your bins.

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But you don't want to listen to that.

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You're just being rude and swearing at me.

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That could be the final nail in the coffin.

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It's the moment of truth.

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She's gone to the lorry and that's where she keeps her big penalty pad.

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Their bins are plenty big enough for them.

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If they recycled and used the food waste bin which goes out weekly,

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they'd have plenty more room in their bins.

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Even though they've got enough bins there for 14 people,

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there is only nine of them. They are not recycling,

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they're not using their food waste, they really don't care.

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So, let's look at the facts.

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Clear evidence of overflowing split bins.

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No sign of recycling.

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Everything chucked in the general waste bin.

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Food waste bins unloved, unused and empty.

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Oh, and let's not forget the attitude.

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So, to fine or not to fine? That is the question.

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There it is. The pad.

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Is it a £100 fine?

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Or maybe not.

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I'm going to put them on a section 46 notice.

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Hopefully this is their last year and they won't be back next year.

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This time, it's a written caution and not a £100 fine.

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Better be on your best behaviour now, lads.

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They'll get away with that mess today

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but if they put waste out incorrectly,

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they'll have a £100 fixed penalty from next week onwards.

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Nothing quite ruins your day like receiving a parking ticket.

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But if, like me, you've been given a ticket you think is unfair,

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you can appeal.

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Yeah, really!

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Today, I've come to the Environment And Traffic Adjudicators Tribunal

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in London to meet Ernest.

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He's disputing an £80 parking fine

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which he believes wasn't served correctly.

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But will his fine be upheld by head adjudicator Caroline?

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So, you're not actually disputing the fact you've got the penalty,

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you're just saying you didn't receive the letter giving you

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-a chance to pay the reduced rate?

-That's correct.

-OK.

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-So, there's £40 riding on it, hopefully.

-Yes.

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-OK, good luck.

-Thank you.

-All right.

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Up to an incredible 50% of the cases that gets heard here are successful

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so the odds are good but will Ernest be one of them?

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The London Borough Of Camden are alleging that,

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on the 21st March of this year,

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you parked and they say without a payment of a parking charge.

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-Do you accept that that's what happened?

-No.

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-Right. So you never knew anything about it.

-No.

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-You got what's called a Notice To Owner through the post.

-Yes.

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-And are you saying you paid the penalty at that point?

-Well, no.

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I believed, because I've had several tickets,

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this is not the first time this has happened to me.

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-What is it you believed?

-That I paid on that time.

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-That you'd paid to park?

-Yes. Yeah.

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Listen to my question before answering.

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'I don't know about you but I'm scared.'

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Are you saying you paid to park

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or that you paid for the penalty charge?

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I paid the penalty-charge notice.

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But you're also saying that you never got it on your car.

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Well, this I haven't got.

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But if you didn't get it on your car, how can you have paid it?

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No. I've always had tickets on my car.

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I didn't know anything about it.

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This one I believed was one I'd received prior to this.

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Ernest is pretty adamant he's in the right, but is he?

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Is he going to escape his on-the-spot fine?

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Right, listen to what...

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Let's just try and follow this slowly.

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You've said that you never got a notice,

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"I never received a notice except this one and I have paid."

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"Or I do receive, I have paid by the internet, so sort it out."

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So, you're saying I have only had one ticket and I paid it.

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I've had two tickets there.

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'Two tickets? I'm completely lost now.'

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Right.

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-I've tickets there.

-You said, "I've never received

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"a notice except this one."

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-Hey?

-That's your writing.

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Yes, I had a notice telling me that I never paid.

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I know in your mind you think you didn't receive anything

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but I'm saying to you that you must have because here it is.

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This is something that you received.

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I didn't receive any note telling me to pay.

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-Right.

-That's why...

-DOM MOUTHS

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-When you received this...

-When I received it, I immediately wrote.

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'Come on, Ernest, that document has got your signature on it.

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'You can't get much better evidence than that.

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'Ah. Hold on a minute.'

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-Is that your car?

-Yes.

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We can see there that that's a ticket. All right.

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So I think that I can safely make a finding

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-that the ticket was served to your vehicle.

-That is not disputed.

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I never, I came out, I didn't see a parking ticket on the car.

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-The only time I got this letter...

-I'm trying to explain to you, sir,

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the problem you've got is,

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by not receiving the parking ticket on the car,

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you were unable to take advantage of the 14-day discount period.

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-That is correct.

-Right, so,

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what happened was, the council extended the offer to you

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to put you back in that position.

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Again, you didn't take advantage of that offer

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-because you never read the letter. Yes?

-That's correct.

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We're at that point.

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Now you're here, I haven't got that power.

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£80 for something which I didn't even know nothing about?

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Right. We've looked at the evidence, the ticket was on the car.

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Of course the ticket's on the car

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but I never received the letter telling me.

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-I didn't know about the ticket.

-I understand that.

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Right, I think I've got a handle on the evidence.

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But, in case you haven't, Ernest claims he didn't receive

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the first ticket, and then didn't read the second ticket

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which means he wasn't able to make use of the 14-day discount.

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'So, is Ernest going to get away with it?

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'Or has he got to pay that full £80 fine?'

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To cut a long story short, sir, your penalty amount is £80

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and I'm not going to be able to allow your appeal.

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You haven't got a ground of appeal. I'll put it in writing for you

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and you have a further 28 days to pay the penalty at the rate of £80.

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So, that's the £80 fine upheld.

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The law's not on your side, essentially.

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No, it isn't, is it?

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-If you want to wait for your decision letter.

-No, it isn't.

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Don't I know it. Don't I know!

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'I do feel a bit sorry for Ernest.

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'One small mistake and he's got to cough up £80.

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'If only he'd responded to that first offer.'

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Now, Ernest, I've got to be honest, when you left the court room there,

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I heard you swear a couple of times. You weren't very happy, were you?

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-Absolutely not.

-Why not?

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She never went in my favour at all.

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Now, £80 is a lot of money for anybody.

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-Obviously, it's going to hurt you a little bit, is it?

-Yes, yes.

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Can I ask you a question and can you be totally truthful with me, right?

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The adjudication's all finished now,

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-it makes no difference your answer at all.

-Yes.

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We all saw that photo with the ticket on your windscreen.

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Be honest, were you just trying your luck to get it down to 40 quid?

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To be honest, Dom, if I didn't read the letter which they sent me

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thoroughly, I would have realised that they still gave me...

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-Another 14 days.

-But I did not.

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When I saw the letter, I read the first section

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-and just put it on the side.

-OK.

-I just put it on the side.

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That's half the problem, though.

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-You got a second chance to pay the 40 quid.

-Yes.

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Right, Ernest.

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-You didn't read the second letter?

-No, I didn't.

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Because if I did, I would've immediately paid it

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rather than me having to go through this pain.

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If you get another one of these in future,

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what are you going to do different?

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-You're going to pay it earlier?

-As early as possible!

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All right, good on you, Ernest. Lovely chatting to you.

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I've seen you before somewhere else along the line.

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Yeah. Probably Crimewatch, was it? ERNEST LAUGHS

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Or was it Baywatch!

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'Next, I'm back in Wiltshire on a ten-hour shift

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'with traffic cop Jay Clifton.

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'He's already handed out a £100 on-the-spot fine

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'to a speeding driver.'

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I have to point out it is an offence to drive at excess speed.

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In relation to that, you don't have to say anything

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but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned

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something which you later rely on in court.

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'I'm starting to realise that, when you're out on patrol,

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'you never know where the next fine is coming from.'

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Just had a report of a possible collision

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-that's come in further ahead of us.

-INDISTINCT RADIO INSTRUCTIONS

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Just going over that way. There's five vehicles colliding.

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A collision?

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Sounds like someone could be on the end of a ticket here.

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Perhaps dangerous driving? I just hope no-one's hurt.

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Could just be rear-end shunt but you always think the worst.

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-Is this traffic here as a result of that accident?

-Yeah.

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'A fine for dangerous driving could be anything up to £5,000.

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-Give me two seconds.

-OK.

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I'll see what we've got.

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At the moment, these five-car shunts are actually bigger than cars.

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You've got a van that's gone into the back of a motorhome

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that's gone into the back of an estate car

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that's gone into the back of an MPV.

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The only good thing I can say is, everybody's out of the vehicles.

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There doesn't seem to be any blood or guts which I'm pleased about.

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I haven't got a strong stomach for that.

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OK. We are not needed.

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'The emergency services have got it under control

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'which is a relief for me.

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'So, there's no fine here, not for Jay to issue, anyway.

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'But, hold on a moment.

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'As we're leaving the scene, Jay spots an illegal manoeuvre

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'and, I'm no traffic cop....'

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Not exactly a very sensible way to do it, is it?

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It's not and I'm waiting to see what he's going to do.

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'And I'm wondering if this could be another on-the-spot fine.'

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What is he doing?

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CAR HORN TOOTS

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SIREN WAILS

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CAR HORN TOOTS

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'By the look on Jay's face,

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'that lorry driver is going to need a pretty good excuse for that move.'

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That's just plain stupid, isn't it?

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That is absolutely ridiculous

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because he's just effectively done a U-turn

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in the middle of a crossroads which is synonymous with collisions there

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whilst all the traffic lights are changing from red to green.

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It was worse than a U-turn, it was 270 degrees.

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He went round three-quarters, in an articulated lorry on a junction.

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All it takes is for another car to come the other way,

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see a green light and he's in the middle of the road. Not acceptable.

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Was a bit of a doughnut.

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'The driver has performed a dangerous and illegal manoeuvre

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'but he's done it right in front of a traffic officer.

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'Will Jay be getting his notebook out?'

0:23:560:23:59

Is this a possible fineable offence?

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Yep.

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Careless driving is something we can deal with

0:24:030:24:06

by way of a fixed-penalty notice now

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which is a £100 fine and three points on the licence.

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So, a lot of what happens now will depend on his attitude?

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If he can give me a reasonable reason

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as to why he's made that manoeuvre, then we can discuss it.

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But, at the moment, I am considering giving him a fixed-penalty notice.

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'A fixed penalty in this case would be £100,

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'so let's see how this goes.'

0:24:290:24:31

Thank you.

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'I don't know about you but I've got a feeling this driver

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'could be on the receiving end of an on-the-spot fine.

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'But first, Jay must assess the situation.'

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Do you feel it was safe for you to do a big turn

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whilst all those cars are moving in middle of the traffic lights?

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Yeah, it was the other lorry behind me

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and driver shout at me, "Go, go, go," or "Start".

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So I decided to turn around to go this way.

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-Do you feel that was safe to do so with all those cars?

-Yeah.

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-You honestly think that was safe?

-I think yes.

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'Now I've not been in a car with Jay long, but I'm pretty sure

0:25:070:25:10

'that might have been the wrong answer to avoid a fine.'

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In my opinion, I don't.

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'Yep, thought so.'

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In the middle of those traffic lights,

0:25:160:25:18

you've gone all the way round and back down again.

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You could have pulled forward to wait to see what was happening

0:25:200:25:23

because you didn't know there was a collision there.

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Other car driver shout at me, "Stop, don't go there."

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It's a tough job making decisions.

0:25:290:25:30

I was watching that and I was thinking, what would I do?

0:25:300:25:34

And, the right side of me, if I was upholding the law would say,

0:25:340:25:38

"Yes, it was stupid."

0:25:380:25:40

"He shouldn't be doing it, especially in that vehicle.

0:25:400:25:42

"He deserves the points."

0:25:420:25:43

There was an element of me going, "You know what?

0:25:430:25:45

"Give the guy a break. Let him off. He's learned his lesson."

0:25:450:25:49

But would the roads be any safer if that happens?

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Probably not. I don't know.

0:25:520:25:54

'I'm still not sure whether this guy is going to get a fine.

0:25:540:25:57

'He's pretty sure he's in the clear.

0:25:570:25:59

'So, how about we take a look at his little spin one more time?'

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There he goes. 90 degrees across the traffic.

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180 degrees.

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..then back across the lane he started in.

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So has the driver done enough to persuade Jay to just give him

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a telling off or is it going to be an on-the-spot fine?

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Over to you, Jay.

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The way we deal with these things in careless driving is a £100 fine

0:26:290:26:33

and three points on your licence.

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And it's a fine.

0:26:350:26:37

Jay was never going to let that one go, was he?

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-Is this the first time you've had points on your licence?

-Yeah,

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first ticket and first point.

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Will that affect your job

0:26:460:26:47

or are you allowed to get away with a couple of points?

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Erm, if I have three or six points,

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I don't know how they may look at it

0:26:540:26:58

but if I exceed three or six points, I can't work more.

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What's your opinion of the police officer

0:27:020:27:06

who's now decided to give you some points there?

0:27:060:27:10

I think he's right. It's his job.

0:27:100:27:12

-Yeah.

-Er, driving is my job and sometimes, er...

0:27:120:27:18

we do something wrong

0:27:180:27:20

and I think next time, I will be more careful.

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A person who's in charge of a very large and very heavy vehicle

0:27:270:27:30

who should be considered a professional driver himself,

0:27:300:27:34

he's taken extra driving lessons to be able to drive a vehicle

0:27:340:27:38

of that size and therefore has a massive responsibility.

0:27:380:27:41

By the manoeuvre he's made, he's put a lot of people at risk.

0:27:420:27:45

Not just members of the public but emergency service personnel

0:27:450:27:48

-attending a collision, wasn't good.

-Yeah.

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So, his 270-degree spin in an articulated lorry has cost him

0:27:530:27:58

a £100 fine and three points on his licence.

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If there's one thing I've learned today

0:28:050:28:07

working with the civil enforcement officers, it's that they have

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a very, very tough job and as they say, "Someone's got to do it."

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Join us next time for more Dom On The Spot.

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